Using scripture as evidence
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2008
- Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee on the atheist experience get a call from a man who among other things claims that men has less ribs than women because of the story about Adam and Eve even though this is easily disproven by picking up an anatomy book.
It's weird how people can use scripture as evidence when they either don't know how the story goes or the story is easily disproven.
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Religious people get backed into corner and they insult and threaten you. This video is proof of that.
Spare rib with a rich 2000 year old recipe of simpleton sauce.
+1 on you friend
Spare rib hmmm that will be a short diner lol😂😂
He didn't understand a damned thing that Matt said to him. It all flew past, just over his head.
And the real shame is even if he was able to understand the arguments, he wasn't listening anyway.
When you are getting completely outargued, call the other person an idiot. Genius
let's realize that the whole biblical story is so utterly ridiculous than any attempt to justify or explain it is a complete waste of time. How so many people are brainwashed into believing any of this tripe is the only true miracle.
This guy is an example of what happens when children are taught to admire pro athletes and celebrities instead of inventors, scientists and other people who actually got educated.
ubiquitousdiabolus or, dare I say in this case, Rappers
This caller probably had no more than a first grade education. His vocal skills are poor, he doesn't know how many ribs there are in a human, and he thinks the big bang theory is a bunch of crap. Some people are hopeless.
I think he's a troll
"Do you believe a man is missing a rib?"
His first line after the greeting and I can already see how it ends.
The rib argument confuses me so much, not only is it ridiculously easy to refute, but unless god actually altered Adam's genes so he had one less rib for no apparent reason, there's no way that taking a rib would be hereditary. It's like saying if someone cut off my finger, all my descendants will be lacking a finger.
A bigger question for me is: if the biblical god was omnipotent, and made Adam from dust, then why did it have to violate Adam's bodily integrity in order to create Eve? Did it forget the recipe?
Ƒȓǟǹǩ Ɫⱥțȇȓ: "if the biblical god was omnipotent, and made Adam from dust, then why did it have to violate Adam's bodily integrity in order to create Eve? Did it forget the recipe?"
My belief is that after licking the Bowl clean of Primordial Matter & Energy left over after his Mummy had finished making a nice big bowl of yummy Universe, god tried copying her to make a little clay Barbie to partner the little clay Ken that Mummy had made to top off her Universe.
Unfortunately, he didn't quite know exactly how Mummy did it (he wasn't yet old enough to read Mummy's Recipe Books or to play with Supernovae and other hot things), so he pinched out a rib while Mummy was on the 'phone to Baal and hoped she wouldn't notice. That's why women go a bit wrong from time to time, getting weepy or shrill or hysterical, that's why they have difficulty parking cars and are prone to leaking fluids from their undercarriages on a fairly regular basis.
I have always been a sceptic and a rational thinker myself, and my interest in science is extensive enough that I feel that it would not be unreasonable to describe myself as a de facto scientist, per se. Because I understand the Scientific Method, and because I can speak in the terminology of Science, I think that perhaps I can communicate the facts in a manner atheistic so-called "skeptics" and "scientists" can relate to.
With this is mind, I shall refer to this theoretical model using appropriate nomenclature, thus it will henceforth be referred to as "The Sub-Adolescent Supernatural Entity of Indeterminate Gender in His/Her/It's Mum's Kitchen Scraping the Bottom of the Bowl Creation Hypothesis" (T.S.A.S.E.I.G.H.H.I.M.K.S.B.B.C.H.) - or "Kitchen God" in short. You will note that it is REAL science, because it is an HYPOTHESIS and not JUST a "THEORY".
I should also point out that your so-called "science" (which in any case limits itself to a mere materialistic view of the world), is not the haven of so-called "atheists" that you Darwinists seem to believe. There are literally several scientists who are not convinced that "so-called" monkeys evolved from a big bang with a missing link when you can't even show a single fossil that isn't either a fake or simply misinterpreted.
Radio Carbon dating has been scientifically proven not to work (But Kitchens do). Not a single transitional kind has ever been observed evolving into another transitional kind (But Kitchens have been observed).
And the nail in the coffin for orthodox science is that they sent a space probe a billion miles to a comet in outer space, just to crash it!
My own belief is that god was punishing scientists for their arrogance; Man was given dominion over the earth and it's creatures, NOT over comets and outer space. Do you have any idea just how many churches could have been built with the money wasted by NASA? Every child in the world could have had a fragment of the True Cross and a copy of "Of Pandas and People" and there would STILL be something left over to build a new Kitchen Creation Science University Campus or two in the Bible Belt and perhaps some beach-front properties in The Bahamas.
A conspiracy among the so-called "atheists" of the so-called "scientific community" has largely kept the voices of dissenting scientists hushed up - but my colleagues and I are fighting back, and have formed a group promoting the teaching of the Scientifically-proven account of Genesis to be included in every text book and taught in every school and college as a valid scientific alternative to so-called real science, and for a Constitutional Amendment to fund research into Kitchen God Creationist Science.
Any real scientist not fooled by the claims of a so-called scientific community who insist on observation for proof yet who admit to never having seen a Crocoduck, is welcome to join our ever-growing group; we call ourselves the Association of Religious Scientists of Elevated Spirituality (or, A.R.S.E.S. for short)
Not one of you so-called "evolutionists" have EVER been able to prove what happened before the Big Bang (which again, is just a theory). Just like the evil Satanic Book of Lies that all you Darwin-worshippers with your idolatrous worship of EVIL-ution hail as your Bible, "On The Origin of Species" sustains your religion of so-called "atheism", but you have not been able to prove that god doesn't exist... why, even your very own atheistic scientists ADMIT that they cannot make something from nothing, or nothing from something, or nothing from nothing... or something... like that... but Kitchen god can and did!
Now I know that atheists tend to be sceptics, and the first thing they demand is invariably "show me the evidence!" - so I have forestalled this by listing some - and by no means all - of the evidence that PROVES the existence of Kitchen God and PROOF of the Scraping the Bottom of the Bowl Creation Hypothesis:
01) There is no proof of so-called Evil-ution.
02) You have to have faith.
03) You so-called "atheists" do believe really, you're just lying to yourself.
04) Your so-called "science" can't make a human being
05) Why would there be kitchens if it weren't true? Kitchens exists, ergo God does.
06) My god is not JUST a theory.
07) I know my Kitchen God exists because I prayed for a sign right there as I was kneeling in the kitchen, and the very moment I opened my eyes I saw the wonder of the Kitchen Lord's appliances all around me... what more evidence could you possibly want?
08) Kitchens exist. The sole reason for their existence is to create. Therefore, Kitchen God.
09) Kitchen God is obviously taught right from wrong by Kitchen Mummy. If you don't believe in Kitchen God, where do you get your so-called "morals" from?
10) Kitchens are useless without human beings to populate them; clearly then, Kitchens, which are designed for humans, are part of the universe, thus the both Universe and kitchen show unmistakeable signs of being intelligently designed - thereby proving the existence of an Intelligent Kitchen designer.
11) If you refuse to believe you will certainly spend eternity being basted in a foil-lined baking tray on the top shelf (see manufacturer's notes for Fan-Assisted Ovens) at Gas Mark 6.
12) You weren't there, so how do you know?
13) The three degree microwave cosmic background radiation PROVES that the Universe was created in a Microwave Oven.
14) You can't prove it's not true.
15) There is no proof of so-called Evil-ution.
Furthermore, the Bible actually PROVES this all to be scientific fact. I know it sounds hard to believe, but if we take a look at the Book of Revelations, squint at the words a bit, stay up for a week on a mix of Methedrine, Methadone, Mescaline and Marijuana whilst listening to a tape of White Noise's "An Electric Storm in Hell" THEN select random Bible verses alternating with random pages from Kitchen Appliance brochures, you will see, just as did I, that it all makes so much sense! It was blindingly clear! I knew it ALL! True, I had forgotten much of it when I woke up naked and shivering in a pile of my own vomit three days later, but clearly Kitchen God chose to reveal these truths to me when I most needed him, like the true god that he is. None of your Spaghetti Bolognese monsters here, thank you so very much!!
Anyway, I hope I gave those with a brain not fogged by evil-utionist so-called propaganda some serious proven scientific hard facts to ponder!
***** seriously? :D
NoneOfYourBeeswax, that was brilliant! Thanks.
Because its in the book thats all they need
Christian gets mad, throws a spear, then runs away.....LOL
+davids11131113 Hey mac you speak rational and stupid shit like science and evidence that i can't understand. All i can do is pick up a rock and throw it at you. Only primitive minds can understand a primitive religions.
@@TonyMontana-zk6ib ?
@@davidhatcher7016 he threw that rock over your head.
@@tombie8763 I didn't understand what the hell Tony said either.
@@pollypockets508 are you a theist, perhaps? Lol
I had a guy argue that women have one less rib, based on the Biblical story. He refused to consider my correction and just walked away.
+Alex Lynch Well maybe some day...if he ever gets to be close enough to a woman who consents to the experiment, he'll be able to find out for himself. Of course, even then, he's not likely to do the experiment. Cuz he "already knows" the answer.
The caller begins by implying that men have one fewer rib than women do and he ends by insulting the host in calling him an idiot yet between his beginning and his end it's the caller that does little more than bring up idiotic biblical nonsense.
I will let them speak all they want and insult all they want. They are doing damage to their religion.
When they asked if he had called in before, he changed his voice to say "this is my first time calling". I wouldn't have even stayed on the phone after that.
M huh what a douche bag
He called him an idiot, oh the irony
Matt is right; this is the "Why you don't die when the sun goes down" caller.
This caller is a prime example of the inverse relationship between intelligence and religiosity.
Lol one goes up one goes down😂😂
That's not remotely true. As Matt has said over and over, intelligence and religion have nothing to do with each other. Stop with your superiority complex. Also, I really think he was a troll.
I've always wondered whether god paid child support, and if Jesus had to go every other weekend for an awkward largely silent meal at McDonalds with him.
It is kind of a rape-y story.
MrOnionterror
If God paid maintenance/child support it would be an admission that he was the Baby Daddy, thus Mary Mother of Jebus would have been an adulteress in the eyes of the prevailing law and would necessarily have been stoned to death. And because Jews believe in abortion they wouldn't have waited until the baby was born to execute the sentence. So if God hadn't have been a deadbeat dad, Jebus wouldn't even have been born!
NoneOfYour Beeswax
Do you think that counts as 'moving in mysterious ways'?
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! You mean to tell me that there are still people walking around on this planet that believe men have one less rib?! I thought that died decades ago!
Didn't know that it was a thing people believed.
+Richard Neel Hey, grammarless one! It's *FEWER*, not "less." "Fewer" is for things you can count (coins, fingers, ribs, etc.). "Less" is for stuff you cannot count (water, gold, air, etc.).
There is one defining truth, when it comes to the Christians:
Stupid never dies.
+indignant99 I can count water, gold, air, etc.
+indignant99 less is more!
The worst act in that story was killing all the innocent first borns, and Yahweh gets full blame for that one.
Its 2000 years before and you tell me anything and threaten me with punishment and i believe anything. Try the same in 2015 with the same story with different character names and proclaim to be a divine inspiration and everyone will punch right in the face of the storyteller.
+Chad Norris
To quote your average christian:
_"But dunchoo no dat dose babies woodah growed up tuh be evil?"_
Christianity: A bad excuse for any occasion.
It is too bad the caller is so rooted in his beliefs to examine them.
a Christian lying? Shocking
The caller realized he had no rational points to make, so he resorted to using a childish insult instead.
If you take a part of someone and make a new organism from it, this is called cloning. Adam married his own clone. How is that for self love?
about as much as a god creating two entire species for the express purpose that they exist to tell him how great and amazing he is.
+ncc1707c And the first ever gender reassignment surgery too. So Eve was a transsexual. Funny how they don't emphasize that in most churches.
cjermevpg
Hell, so long as we're talking about shit that's glossed over in churches: God fucked a married 14 year old, Mary.
SO, that's pedophilia and ignoring that whole "Sanctity of marriage" thing that evangelical divorcees clamor about when they shout at gay people.... Hilarious.
+ncc1707c If you clone yourself and then have sex with the clone is that masturbation or incest?
+Katherine Daniel Never thought of that, thanks for the ammo. Peace and cuddles x
You guys should do an offshoot programming where you just let these people talk with no interruptions. They would destroy their own nonsense and murder religion forever within a week.
*programme*
That's already a thing, it's called The 700 Club
+Psittacosaurus Good point, if pat robertsons' stupidity can't dissuade people who can? Back to the drawing board!
Tell me 'bout da rabbits, George. Dere's gonna be rabbits right George?
I too enjoy fairy stories.
I've watched 40 or 50 of these shows and I HAVE heard theist callers remain polite and abstain from name calling and threats of eternal agony, but it is rare. Why do Christians in particular shriek 'oppression of their freedoms' and then act like schoolyard bullies?
Because the damn fools have nothing else.
They don't necessarily. Christians are not a monolith.
This was hilarious; highly entertaining. How did you guys kept a fairly straight face ?
I'm dumber from just listening to this call
i love how jeff really just wanted to have a good time with this guy^^
"Wasn't that worth waiting for" - Jeff Dee 2008.
Its scary that there are ignorant Christian cultists like this.
Does the caller not have any idea what this show is about, I mean he must have heard the show before?
I love it when callers to this show make appropriately ironic comments then hang up the phone.
Scientific method: Look at the facts, come up with a conclusion, use it to benefit mankind
The religious method: Come up with an assumption based on ideals, invent abstract philosophical concepts to sell it, use it to retain control at the expense of mankind
The ending is awesome! Worth the wait indeed...
he who believes he is free is truly imprisoned the most.
I love how as soon as Attack 1 is rebuked, his brain just blocks it out, and his Chriatian protocol is to run straight on to Attack 2. Is he actually listening? Count your ribs man!
Good finally someone who can post one of their videos without trying to steal ad revenue from it without owning the content. You are a hero to RUclips and atheists. And maybe also anti piracy advocates.
It is really funny the voice this caller adopts in whatever psychodrama he is enacting in calling the Show.
Those who say one should not ask for evidence have no evidence to offer.
I didn't know Cleveland Brown was real.
He got his own show out of this.
The caller is right!
Recently me and my gf were invited to a barbecue. We both had spare ribs and guess what? When I counted, I had one rib less on my plate than her.
'So you atheists believe in god and pharoah....but don't believe in angels??' o_O
A few of my mom's classmates at massage therapy school thought that men have one less rib than women... By that logic, shouldn't we all have dirt running through our veins?
I was actually kind of impressed that this guy even asked the last question. From the rest of the call, it sounded like he'd never heard of anything but the Bible (which he nonetheless still hasn't actually read).
Or, as he has also called in, "JR", "John", and more. Ashley caught him on that once - "you are getting good at coming up with new names." I believe the video is here as "When are you going to stop attacking us", uploaded by village1diot.
As long as this guy is alive, I won't be the stupidest person on the planet
lol! jeff dee should do stand up! love this show!
This is Ruben from "Why we don't die when the sun goes down" clip. There's no mistaking that voice.
I forgot about this guy. The "pharaoh" comment was hysterical. He says "you believe in (insert any ruling class title) but you don't believe in god?" and then immediately calls them idiots. Classy. I'm sure the guy has a firm grasp of the BB theory, though.
@drjackflash We appreciate the sympathy. Having to deal with idiocy on this level is painful, and it's nice to see someone appreciate what we go through in trying to educate the masses. ;)
Wow, that guy called HIM an idiot!? It still just blows me away how far gone some of these nuts are. Literally, they must have just had this stuff hammered into thier heads since childhood, and it's just too ingrained now.
The caller calls into an atheist TV show and assumes the hosts believe in God. Now that is one dense caller!
Lmfao the end was delightfully ironical :D!
It's sad that this guy probably walked away from this call thinking he had completely destroyed Matt with that comment.
An unfortunate trend I've noticed in callers to this show seems to be that they will take disparate portions of a work, whether it's The Origin of Species or The Bible, and build them up in their own minds until they no longer resemble what's actually on the page. What makes Dillahunty such a strong debater against Christians is that he is, or at least appears to be, well-read on both sides.
Well the caller convinced me. There is Pharaoh.
One example of such evidence is the connection between the old testament and older sumerian myth. The evidence of copying, modification, a gradual move from polythism to monotheism, and even the gradual change of Yahweh from a lesser god to a creator god.
A good example of this is how the story of Noah was adapted to Jewish culture/the bible from its earlier form in Gilgamesh.
We also know a lot about the mechanisms involved in primitive belief systems such as animism etc.
One of quite a few *A-Teams* AXP had at that time.
These early shows were so good & maybe evidence that evolution doesn't always move in a positive direction....
Circular arguments for the win!
The caller did not comprehend one word that Matt said and then... called Matt an idiot.
I know he said this is the first time he called, but he sounds just like that guy who asked why we don't die when the sun goes down. Although in this one he doesn't sound like he is struggling with every word.
This guy has to be a poe. You can hear him chuckle a couple of times.
"see?...wasn't that worth waiting for?" XD ...
You can just feel the equality oozing out of this twitch.
Are you missing a Rhee-ub?
More christian love, LMAO!
I watch these videos for pure entertainment at this point.
Love ur pic, tenacious D
I love these two guys
Remember this discussion for when 'free thinking' hurts and changes the things YOU do and believe in.
Does yall beliebe mane is missin a rib.
This is JR #2, the Poe. That is my hypothesis anyway.
Being bound to something (or not) and denial of rights also come after manifestation. We are either talking about Him existing in which case we can debate rights and obligations, or the premise is that he does not exist, in which case suggesting He is bound to fairness or has rights is moot. So, which is it? Do you normally have opinions and issue judgement about things that you do not believe exist?
some callers really need the banhammer
@nuberiffic I apologise.
RUclips commenting can get a bit crazy at times :-)
Take care
It's so funny when people ring up and think Pharoah was just a guy in the bible, and not a title.
How many times did this guy call? Seriously!? Did anyone notice that?
But let me add i respect very much the atheists like matt who are looking for answers, but are being honest in declaring they don't feel or believe in the holy spirit.
@Klobinator at first I laughed, but then I walked a mile in your shoes... and was livid I had less ribs
Wow, this poor caller, I just... feel sorry for him.
yeah the whole oh your christian buybull is like a couple of drunk guys saying " well they bought the last load of shit we wrote on the scrolls , what do ya wanna write next ? "
I thought I regognized his voice too lol
I love it when stupid people call intelligent people stupid. It is so freaking ironic.
Being called an idiot by a theist is definitely less than an insult.
I hope the caller is a troll.
" but you belive in the big bang theory huh?" the way he sayd it make me laugh so hard
Sometimes sandpaper comes in handy to scrub off crap.
And what attributes does it have?
@omnissient It comes with the licensed agreement. It's in the fine print.
This is the best call
"Oops! Done stung myself!" :D
Awesome I love how Matt once again has a better grasp of the Bible then the Christians who call his show.
That's JR from the most famous call ever. Why don't we die in the shower.
FINALLY! Any time people try to argue about how God won't violate free will, I bring up Exodus and nobody knows what I'm talking about. I have to look up the exact verse every time I bring it up because it seems like I dreamed that passage or something.
This caller is second only to Reuben.
Why does Inspector Clouseau like calling into AE so much?
“Inspector Clouseau” ☠️
Don't they say the "rib" we're missing is the "rib" found in, say, cats and sea mammals?
they are tearing people apart. i love it.
@evoman1776 That may actually be scarier than serial killers walking around, because serial killers can at least be dealt with relatively easily by calling the police.
right im gonna ask a question, any one can answer. right, so seeing as god has ment to created everything in the universe, whats to stop me from creating a virtual world with a few characters the move around, that i set rules for but then give them the option not to follow the rules, and have them have some form of energy intake and energy production eg. growing food, whats to stop me from saying im a god, a god of the world on my computer that i made and have little characters worshiping me?