Which Omega Speedmaster? - White Vs Black, Sapphire Vs Hesalite?
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
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I want an Omega Speedmaster, but I can't decide between the White dial Speedmaster or the Black dial Speedmaster, or between the Hesalite Speedmaster vs Sapphire Speedmaster (Saphire Sandwich). 
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The white dial may be a Speedmaster, but the black dial is THE Speedmaster. Black dial all day.
Nothing more to say. Spot on. Simple fact.
They're both Speedmasters ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@SpektrikMusic Think you missed the point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@jgo8305 I got the point, it was a dumb point. Speedmaster Circle Jerk type stuff when guys froth over hesalite and the fact that the model of watch went to the moon (which isn't even the current generation watch/movement).
It's a speedmaster, it's already a cool watch, don't give omega ammo to release crap limited editions.
Totally agree. One went to the moon, one didn't.
Whoever did the edit of this video, matching up the chrono hand from the matched split shot of the chrono in action on both dials, is a genius. Christ, that must have been challenging. Amazing.
Team White.
🙌 I said the same thing during the edit! Thanks for the great feedback and our editor will love to hear that.
Always quality & professional this guy.
Came to comments just because of the split shot! 🎉 Here the advice I was given before choosing my most recent watch “take some watches and do a side by side” then choose.
@@matthewjohnson647 😂👍
If youChoose the white you will always still want the black.
Hi Adrian
My dad passed away in Feb this year. He repaired watches all of his life. I went straight out and bought the black SM sapphire sandwich on the bracelet. Got a great deal on a new one from my dealer.
I love it, and all of the different details I see each time I look at it.
It also reminds me of a life’s work.
I bought it posthumously, for my dad. I will wear, and treasure it, and remember him each time I do.
Thanks dad ❤️🙏🏻
My sincere condolences.
Fabulous watch. All the best.
Lovely sentiment
womp womp
It’s lovely when watches have a story and memories associated with them.
Bought a GMT reminds me of my muther, when we visited her in hospital towards the end, she used to rotate the bezel and read off the time. She knew her end was coming, but kept smiling on that last long, and lonely journey to eternity. May their dear souls rest in peace. And forward to that day when we will meet them again. XX all the best all the time.
Team Black w/ Sapphire crystal. Classic and modern at the same time - all around strap monster too.
Saw the white in person. Personally the black looks a lot better on the wrist while the white dial looks better in photos. Definitely go see both in person
Agree💯
Black one with Sapphire is the winner for me ! It’s a bit more luxurious… I have it myself. What a nice piece !
I’ve owned both the black sapphire & hesalite. Without a shadow of a doubt, I prefer the warmth and the way the light plays with the domed hesalite. I also prefer the fully brushed bracelet, but would happily borrow the applied logo from the sapphire model. The manual wind 3861 movement, unobscured by a rotor is mesmerising and that leaves me in two minds as to whether my ideal version would borrow this feature too. The solid case back feels somehow authentic and honest, but it hides the beauty within. In the end, the one I kept and enjoy is the hesalite, so I guess that answers that, for me anyway.
Black, hesalite. I’ll admit to always being a little confused when people complain about how many Speedmaster variants there are. There is only one Speedmaster. It’s got a black dial and a hesalite crystal. Everything else is a special edition in some way.
And I say that as someone who loves the new white dial one. But I own a 1861 and there’s simply no substitute for the original.
I’ve had my 3861 black dial for a month after lusting after one since the update in 2021. For me it’s the perfect watch
Difficult to beat this watch at the price range in terms of design, heritage and specs.
Black dial with Sapphire, classic, timeless! Nothing more to be said.
I'm old school so when I got mine back in 2015, it was caliber 1861 with hesalite all the way. No regrets, I love the vintage look. Of course, the new white dial wasn't available then. That said, this new white dial Speedy is a beauty.
I agree that the black has a charm that the white doesn’t capture. I went into my boutique to look at the white dial, and ended up walking out with a black sapphire sandwich. Scratch resistant glass + seeing the movement, I think it’s the ultimate speedy
Team black/hesalite for 8 years now, my first "better" watch. But I have this feeling that white/sapphire should be a nice combo. :)
Adrien feeds on nostalgia. He's gonna get the black hesalite.
I think he'll go for Black Sapphire
@@DelusionalNYC That would be a shame haha imo
Deep down everyone gets on the hype train and cares about resale, no way he will take the black, it’s a bad deal
@@Commodore0069 literally no one gives a shit about that. They all lose money as soon as you walk out of the store
Just to make it fun, I’ll go ahead and predict he goes with the hesalite. I know he loves a white dial so if he’s choosing between the two in this video, I think he leans that way. Plus, he has an old omega with hesalite so if one has already scratched that itch, it may be fun to go fully modern on the latest Speedy. Thankfully Omega gave us both options here.
Black and with Hesalite - no doubt about it! Owned mine for about 10 years, and worn i daily on a black Omega leather (“alligator”) or a black Nato. Just love the clean design.
Tough call, white looks great, black is classic. If you consider your collection tho, you already have a white dial SMP300 and Explorer II
@DPTX Excellent point regarding Adrian's collection.
Black hesalite with a spiral winder clear case back. Best of both worlds. Thank you for the quality content.
I have exactly this. It's the best 👌
I daily my 3861 Sapphire Sandwich. There was a moment where I was pretty jealous when the white dial came out. It does look amazing. That being said, long term, I don't think I would select it over the black dial.
Black dial, and I don't regret the Sapphire over the Hesalite.
I picked up the white speedy last month. Pictures and videos do not do the dial justice. It’s something that has to be seen in person, under the sunlight, to fully appreciate. The open case back adds a nice touch as well. Seeing all the movements in action is fun to watch. I’m a fan of the sapphire sandwich and polished inner links for a subtle, two-tone appearance. The tapered bracelet is another great update that makes the fitment even more comfortable on the wrist. 10/10
The white is eye-catching. So many watches have slightly off-white dials, and you don't notice until you compare them to the white Speedy. This white is absolutely crisp!
Black dial sapphire for you as it scratches both itches the longing to see the workings of the watch combined with the clarity of the black dial. For me the Hesalite as I love the vintage vibe and authenticity with all that history! 🙂
I picked up a pre-update hesalite for half what the current model goes for, literally a month before they discontinued it. I was also born in the same month and year they took it to the moon so a very special watch for me.
Got my black dial about a year ago and wear it just about every day. My only nice watch. Went with sapphire cause I love seeing the movement and prefer the durability for daily wear. Also like the applied logo and polished bracelet links for more variation. Amazing watch!
White dial seems like a novelty that would get old and you’ll be wanting that classic black dial.
I have a Grey side of the Moon Speedmaster and I love it to bits. Awesome watches.
The white dial with their black perforated leather strap (with white stitching) is a great combination.
The white is stunning.
By far the best video comparing the black and white versions.
Adrian, so glad you’re deciding on a speedy. I’ve owned both the sapphire and hesalite black dial and I absolutely love the hesalite. It’s got such a nice vintage vibe. The new movement is great, the 3861. I absolutely love this watch
Great video. Purchased my sapphire sandwich new in black with 15% discount in March. Wanted to stay true(ish) to the original, so I didn't wait for the white version. You won't regret buying one whichever version you choose!
My Speedmaster 3861 Hesalite has been with me for 2.5 years. Every time I put it on, it still feels like the first time. Such a beautiful watch that wears incredibly well. I love how the Hesalite dome refracts light when looking at the dial from different angles. One thing I've learned over these 2.5 years of wear is that the watch and the Hesalite are truly robust. Survived everything from daily wear to travels to concerts in the rain. Still beats accurately with almost no scratches on the Hesalite. I'd say go for the classic black dial Hesalite - THE definition of a Speedmaster.
My 1994 "50 years Apollo 11" Speedmaster ran from July 1994 to June 2016, almost 22 years before it needed a service. It was my daily beater (in military service abroad) and the 861 proved a strong movement. #MoonwatchUniverse
I’ve had my black SS for two years now and the honeymoon period has never waned. Absolutely perfect watch, I love looking at that movement and as you say, it’s a strap-monster, green & grey nato, nylon, tan rally, or even formal black crocodile leather in the style of George Clooney’s in The American. Epic watch.
Got the white one, absolutely love it. It just looks stunning every time I glance at it. Quite glad I did not go for the black one last year.
i love you so much! I recently just found your amzwatch and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
Wow what timing! I just had the thought of picking one up myself. I'm leaning toward the moonshine two-tone. Thanks for the vid, Adrian!
i was at Omega last week and tried both on. This video summarises my dilema exactly.
White dial is SICK. It's beautiful. The black dial is classic. Can't go wrong!
I've been going back and forth - you actually helped me decide the next Omega will be the hesalite Speedy. The key for me was how you highlighted the hesalite can be polished up. Bottom line, being THE moon watch, vs A moon watch also kicked in for me.
Just got the white dail and I couldn't be happier. Ill pick up a used black hesalite version down the line for the ultimate combo of dress and space 🚀
Dare I say they’re different enough to enjoy both!?
Black with the warmth and character of the hesalite and solid caseback.
And the fresh white dial with modern sapphire front and rear, showcasing the beautiful movement.
I would easily like both in my collection!
Just bought the black dial/hesalite brand new on eBay. I feel like I’ve needed this watch for a long time.
Sapphire as the movement is so nice and the dial is better with the Omega logo standing out.
Black because the lume is better than the white, and the colour contrast is awesome.
Team black sapphire. Most versatile of the three.
Just bought mine this past Friday, easy decision for me Team Black dial with sapphire.
Never got the buzz about the Speedy and never liked it.... but I had the new white on the wrist and it just pops with its contrast, it's just amazing!
This is also going to be my next watch. I own more Rolex watches but have a few omegas. I have got over how much the price gas gone up in recent years. I decided that I will not purchase a second hand speedy. I am undecided on the white or black. There is not even a white speedy on display at my AD. But I think i will end up buying the black sapphire model, that is my gut feeling. I always go back to why is this watch not 100metres water resistant ? After all it has a sapphire glass and an open back, so its already been changed from the original model. Anyway plan to get it for Christmas need a few more coppers. 💰
Love my sapphire sandwich black dial. Very classic goes well with most attire.
This is such a classic B&J video. Great shots, love for details, honest content which doesn‘t feel forced and a certain calmness to it. Great job, Adrian. 👍🏻 I do own a black, sapphire crystal moonwatch from 2008 and I can fully recommend it. The open caseback is fantastic and I just feel a tiny little safer than I would with a hesalite watch. Team Black, but there‘s no wrong choice obviously. 👌🏻
I got the Black Dial [Hesalite] 7 weeks ago on the Black Strap. From a UK Boutique for a nudge under £5.8k cash. And your right it is so so comfortable it wears smaller than a 42mm. I'm used to 40mm Rolex's. Only quirk I have noticed is that the hour sub hand does not align [you can see it at 2:36 sec frame]. I take tablets for OCD and this mis-align doesn't seem to bother me. It actually makes it feel unique to my watch. When you get your AB you'll love it and it's a strap monster 😀🙌👌
My take is....go with white dial if you own a lot of black dive watches like many dive watch fans do.
I tend to prefer mineral crystals because they look less austere to me with vintage vibe as mentioned and I am careful with my watches not only relative to dial but the watch case itself.
Nice comparison video Adrian thanks.
PS. even before I was ever into watches I remember the first time I saw a Speedmaster. My brother-in-law was into watches and he had one which reflected his good taste. I thought it was the perfect looking watch. Special watches are rare in natural for obvious reason. Once in a great while a designer gets it just right. A confluence of countless factors. Like an E-type Jag or '63 split window Corvette or Ferrari Testarossa or GTO.
Omega nailed the aesthetic and proportionality of this watch and going to space just makes it that more special.
First, your camera work is constantly improving. Cheers to that.
Second, I keep vacillating between sapphire and hesalite. This watch has maybe my favorite movement outside of something $10,000 more expensive. But I’ve tried both on and I love the warmth of the hesalite and love how it looks on the wrist… Every time I think I’ve decided I get hands on or see a picture and immediately change my mind.
I like the speedy chronoscope a lot, it's different and cool
Love the white dial. Prefer the look. I don’t mind the little extra thickness for the toughness of the sapphire.
The Speedmaster is very unique because its story is mostly not BS and very significant. It’s the only watch I would even consider a Hesalite crystal and bypass a display back…but I did just that. For me …with particular watch…it was very important to have as close to the original incarnation as possible. You should get both…but the black Hesalite first 😉
I have a sapphire sanga black dial. Have absolutely loved it and looking at the back is fun! Full recommend.
Team white. That lacquer dial is amazing.
The white dial is really fresh but the black dial is just so classic, sapphire is great for every day life but you find yourself looking down at your wrist occasionally wishing you had went for the hesalite, but then every morning or evening when winding the watch, you catch a glance at the caseback and movement - you are reminded at just how amazing this tiny device on your wrist is, especially in todays world where most things we buy have a designed lifespan. As a side note: I mind seeing a Hodinkee post saying an exhibition caseback is a secret between you and your wrist, which I thought was poetic! For me, I would and did go for sapphire. Good Luck
Hey Adrian, great Video! For your Question: Haven‘t seen the white version in real for now, so i can‘t comment on this one, but as an owner of the black version: Hesalite!!!!!!!!!! Not because it‘s more „original“. But if you compare both black options you will see that the sapphire crystal adds a bit of a white milky ring (reflections inside the material due to a different Breaking of the light) at the edge of the crystal while the hesalite has a more blacky look.
I have the black sapphire sandwich. Love it, loved it so much I bought the full moonshine gold with green dial to go along with it.
@VectorSearch That moonshine gold one is such a distinctive color combination!
Big fan man. I think you answered your own question I think the black hesalite is the way to go for you. You mentioned the character that watch has and honestly it’s a classic. Also looks way better on some Bark and Jack natos 😂
Cheers brother appreciate the content and wish you all the best
I’ve always like the Speedy for what it is, but have never been tempted to buy one because I didn’t love the look of the bracelet. Now, I’m so tempted by these. I helped a friend get one for her husband as a wrong gift and it’s so nice. I think owning one of these would definitely provide some competition for wrist time within my collection.
Black.....the black dial is part of the identity of the speedmaster....
He’s back baby 🔥
Just got black sapphire last week.
But both great. I'd decide based on dial colors currently in collection.
Your video on the 4 speedys from a few years back features the Speedmaster you should get.
The Broad Arrow, 60th Anniversary Trilogy one. 👌
Proper vintage vibe and the bracelet adjustment on that thing is mega.
Classic speedmaster professional Hesalite in black. You already know, Adrian. You’re a purist at heart. Absolute class 👌👍
Best review of the new Speedmaster I’ve seen so far. Very nice video editing as well.
This is a tough choice. If you don’t have one I would suggest the hesalite version. The distortion is beautiful.
But then again the sapphire on the back and view of the caliber 3861 of the sapphire version is captivating.
Get both! 😎
I have the black saphire sandwich and it definitely gets a lot of wrist time. I catch myself taking it off and just staring at that movement all of the time! To me, no question giving up the hesalite in exchange for unfettered access to that beautiful manual wind movement is a no brainer! White dial is cool, but black is the real Speedmaster. Best of luck, and thanks for another great video.
Black with Sapphire has been my daily for a year nearly. Absolutely in love with it. The white one does have my eye though, although if I go white, I kinda want the snoopy lol.
I have the black watch sandwich version I love it, an amazing watch
I have the black. 1861 version. Love it.
But I tried the white one this wkend and oh man. I want it. It's so underrated. Gotta have both...
I wear team black, sapphire. I do agree that it's the subtlies of the dial that make this watch amazing. When I first experienced the watch in person, I was intrigued but not amazed....then my impression of the watch only grew more and more with each passing minute at just how amazing this watch is , ..... It was evident when I walked out of the boutique with it on my wrist. The rest is history....
White one. Ive been dying to get one. I put it on and it was incredible
I would go with the black/sapphire. The perfect modern classic.
Adrian I’ve got the so called original black dial, hesalite model & I love it! The traditional side made me want to buy it. I have to say though, as soon as the new white dial version launched, I was drooling! Now I’d buy the white to add, but if I was purchasing my first, for me, I’d buy the original.👍🏼😎
I now have both white and black dial Speedmaster in Sapphire, I prefer the Sapphire for the exact reason you mentioned the clarity. The other reason is the polished and brushed bracelet it just adds to the overall look. I have just ordered the Daytona leather strap for the White dial I think it emphasises the dial IMO. Team both on these. Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺
Love the white dial with applied indices. I bought it a week ago and I have not at any other 8 watches I own.
When I workout or go for a long run/hike in the woods I bring my sapphire shielded black bay 54 every time. But when it comes to the speedmaster, I cannot imagine having bought anything other than the black dial hesalite 3861. I live a very active lifestyle and the dome holds up fine. I wear it constantly and if it gets a ding you can just polywatch it back to perfection, which is itself an awesome experience. Hesalite is the way for a speedy!
The white dial is crispy, the red text just elevates it
The red details really do look great. Perfect amount of red.
Ah the old rationalization.... I NEED IT! ITS A BUSINESS INVESTMENT! "Hello my name is Adrian and I have a problem".... Hi Adrian. You love the romance of the hesilite version but the white is the one you want - we can tell by your voice. The white dial POPS way more with straps!
White Speedy is a strap monster. Excellent strap and color choices.
Enjoyed the video. Felt the passion talking about them. Personally the white didn’t do it for me. Would have wanted matte as well. So I’m team black. Hessi! Thx for the plug.
I’m for sure on team exhibition case back. Probably on team black dial though.
Hello Adrian, I can tell you that the Hesalite is a great version. It has a beautiful view on the dial. I never wanted Hesalite, but now, that I have one I would never give it away. Greetings from Cologne, Holger
I've got the black faced sapphire sandwiche, and whilst it is a strap monster, the tapered bracelet is a delight. The white face wasn't an option, and I'm glad, as I'd have probably bought one of each! Worth noting healthy discounts available from Ads (15 to 20%) which negates the sting out of recent price rises. Its a joy to own and wear, a definite keeper for me. I also like the fact there is no date complication, and winding it up reminds me of my first ever watch, a wind up timex.( I still own)
I thought this was a totally nonesense video - I have a Hesalite Moonwatch Pro; but that white dial looks SO good.
I got the white seamaster last year and now I'm after the white Speedy, as soon as I saw it, I knew I had to get it. There's just something about a white dial. But for me, it's sapphire all day long.
Wow that shot at 5:00 mark is something else, great video!
I couldn't make the choice between the two, I have the black hesalite (previous gen, reference ending at .005) and I must add the white 3861 to the collection when I get the chance!
@adrianbarker I purchased the black SS on a bracelet in April 2023 and got 20% off and a leather strap included so haggle hard. I love the detail in the dial, and the bracelet feels like a jubilee. I have a few Rolex and they all feel sturdier but it's a worthy addition to any collection. Keep up the fantastic work.
Manually-wound, co-axial escapements: Omega De Ville Tresor; Speedmaster; and watches built by George Daniels and Roger W. Smith. The white dial is cool, and the black dial is iconic. Both are great and you can't go wrong with the movement. I'm not one for waiting, so the black dial for me.
bought the white on the bracelet but had the rubber strap fitted to it. Its beautiful and I think its sooo subjective re colour. Being a twat i have the black face daytona as a wedding gift 14 years ago. Decent combination
Get the white ! I have it for a month now! Simply stunning
Can’t hold a candle to you Adrian, but I too FINALLY bought a current sapphire black Moonwatch. My 15th good watch and I find it being picked to wear much more frequently than I ever expected over the last five weeks. Probably a watch every collector should seriously consider owning.
Went white and love it - was going to buy black this year but only hesitation was I have 2x black dial already. When they brought the white out it was easy decision. Lacquer dial with touch of red stunning. If black would have gone crystal - the view of the movement is just mesmerising
If Omega reads this, I have an idea.....black AND white dial split evenly as in the video. Go on you know you want to!
I have an 1863 movement Sapphire sandwich, and it's a fabulous watch; however, the white dial looks fantastic, so I'd go for that 🙂👍
Tough call. I have the black dial and I love it🙏
I bought the white Speedy Pro when it came out and I've been wearing it everyday since then. The white dial right pops and I get a tiny sense of internal joy when I see the red inside. I say, get the white! I'm debating on buying the Silver Snoopy now but I don't know if they're too similar to each other...
Thank you so much mamacoo for taking us shopping🛍…my wish list just got longer
Hi Adrian, I am team black sapphire. I enjoy the same advantages as mentioned with regards to scratch resistance and clear case back but I also love the applied Omega logo on the sapphire variant and the extra detail on the bracelet. All in all I think it’s an awesome watch, it’s my first luxury watch and I haven’t added to my collection since buying the Speedy which was six months ago… nothing has come close 👌🏻
My speedy is a 3861, black dial, sapphire. Black dial is the icon, but I love the white dial as well. Its my fall back if I can't get the silver snoopy. That's the plan at least.
I'm currently leaning towards the white dial myself, the applied indices & logo seem to add to the depth of the dial. Also the pop of the white with the bits of red really looks great in photos. That said I'm waiting for the white dial to show up at a local AD before I make a decision. Seeing them in the metal is everything, even if it means waiting for a year (waiting on Rolex's has conditioned me to be patient, lol).