Festool Kapex KS 120 - Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- The Festool Kapex KS120 is the key tool that helps me to deliver square cuts and perfect mitres which are at the heart of my cabinet making. The cutting capacity is generous and the finish produced is outstanding. In these two videos I describe and demonstrate the key features and do my best to convince you that this should be your mitre saw of choice. This machine was my first Festool purchase and I have never had any regrets or reservations about that decision 3 years ago.
When you work in the trade choking on dust day in day out, Dust collection becomes very important. I would buy this saw for that alone.
Hi Paul, Very sound advice - many thanks. Cheers. Peter
Thank you so much for this excellent video. You are a talented teacher
Hi Blake, You are very kind. Cheers. Peter
Thank you Peter for the best review of the Kapex ever. I am the proud owner of this saw and picked up a few tips watching your video.today. Greetings from beautiful Vancouver Island , Canada
Hi Marius, Many thanks for your kind remarks. It really is a great saw. Peter
Well after watching this video a few years back I have now taken the plunge and purchased one. When I saw Festool were offering a £100 cashback I went for it. Wow am I pleased I did as it is by far the best I have ever had and a complete pleasure to use. So, thanks for your above video Peter you sold me on the idea.
Hi Barry, That is a great decision and many thanks for the feedback. Peter
Hi Peter:
I just purchased a Kapex of my own after doing extensive research as well as agonizing a bit over the price. I must say after owning it for only a few days, that I am spoiled beyond repair. Thank you so much for your very informative videos as well as for taking the time to share your extensive knowledge and tips. Wonderful stuff!
Cheers!
Ron Star
+Ron Star Hi Ron, I was in the same position as you just over 4 years ago. I had never bought any Festool kit and I spent over 6 weeks researching and eventually trying all sorts of saws. I have never for a single second regretted buying the Kapex. If you have not seen it yet I do recommend you downloading a copy of the US Supplemental Manual. Good luck. Peter
Hello again Peter:
Thank you for the reply as well the information on the Supplemental Manual for the Kapex. I will definitely check it out. Keep up the great work on the videos.
Best regards,
Ron
Hi Ron,
You are very kind. Good luck with the Kapex.
Peter
Peter thank you for this excellent video. Having agonised for ages re the kapex i bit the bullet and bought one. You are absolutely right this is the best mitre saw i have used a real quality tool. Thank you for the good advice.
+mark gilmour Hi Mark, Many thanks for the feedback - this will help others make the decision as well. The Kapex is not cheap but it is absolutely worth every penny. It was one of my very first Festool purchases and in 2011 was about the same price as it is today. Where abouts in the world are you? Peter
+New Brit Workshop (Peter) Hi Peter, you are welcome for the feedback,and i hope you are right, that it will help people decide to buy festool equipment.I started buying festool back 2006,my first purchases were the ts 75 and ts 55 closely followed by the ps 300, all of which are still going strong.(which is testament to Festool in itself). I now own some 20 or so festool tools and numerous accessories all of which i consider wise investments in terms of business and quality.
I am Joiner based in Dundee Scotland,(who has just lost a morning watching more of your videos) i mainly make and fit kitchens and on occasion turn my hand to furniture .
It has been great to touch base with you please carry on the good work and keep spreading the Word !.
Thank you Peter, another good video. I do like you handmade left and right hold downs for cutting small pieces. I have cut small pieces on my chop saw using a similar technique but not a safely. The dado cut into the end makes the difference, it also keeps it all square. Thank you.
Hi Harvey, I will show this in a video soon... If the thin strips to be cut are quite high (and hence a risk of the offcut twisting) then I use a spacer under the opposite end of the hold-down piece of wood to keep it close to parallel to the plane of the base. If needed one can use a spacer under both hold-downs. The key thing is to keep the hands away at all times and always wear eye protection. Peter
Fabulous introduction to this product Peter. I've just taken delivery of my first Festool product - a PDC 18/4 kit based on your review. Truly a super brand. Looks like I'll be shelling out a few more pennies on this shortly. As a novice I find your work very inspirational and clear to understand. Thanks again. Scott.
Scott Matthews Hi Scott, I am delighted to help - I have been buying Festool for over 3 years now and I am an out and out fan of the brand. You now have your first Festool drill, if you want another then your next should be the CXS. The heart of my Festool kit is the CT26 extractor and I refer to it as the "unsung hero" as it makes sure that all of the other Festool kit does not send dust everywhere. Do send me a private message if you wish me to help with opinion on future Festool purchases. Many thanks for your kind words. Peter
New Brit Workshop Thanks again Peter. The CXS does look like a compact driver. Ideal for cabinet makers where space is often limited. My next purchase will be the CARVEX PSBC 420 as I only have a cheapo Jigsaw at present - Far from ideal! Best wishes. Scott.
Hi Peter,
Yet another outstanding video, it's your video's that helped convince me that I needed to dig a little deeper with my research on Festool, I purchased the Kapex a few months back (When it went on sale) and since using it... I've been infected with the 'green addiction'... I since have purchased 2 MFT Tables, Rotex RO90 AND Rotex RO150, the CT36 ("the unsung hero"), Carvex PS 420, TS 55, and most recently (not yet arrived) the OF1400, I don't know of a cure for this addiction? the worst of it is... I'm not a contractor and I don't use these tools to make a living with, I just have a passion for fine woodworking and great tools that help me achieve that!
Thank you for the education and great videos!!!
Charles
***** Hi Charles, The great thing for me about the fine tools from Festool is that my woodworking has improved, my enjoyment has increased and I get compliments from the family. A win win situation. Cheers. Peter
Hi Peter again you strike well at the target. Wide explanation covering evry procedure... well done!
And guess what? ....... I get a Kapex too!
Yes yo are really making me poorer but happier!!!
Thank you again my friend!
Btw almost finish your book, I liked it!
Hugs from Italy
Chris
christian buzio Hi Christian, Do you need the plans for the Kapex mitre station? If so, let me know. I am really pleased that you like the book - perhaps you cold put a review on Amazon. Take care and stop spending money - what would you do if I reviewed a BMW? Peter
Ahahahah! Don't worry about it! BMW does not cut wood so I will surely don't buy it ;-)....
Of course when I finish I ll wrote a review about Stone Message.
About plans I will appreciate, every suggestion is always welcome.
Let me know how much do they cost and I send you immediately a paypal.
Thank you so much. I hope to meet you in person some time, I planned a trip to england and why not come to have a tea with you?
Hugs
Christian
christian buzio My plans are free and I have sent you a PM asking for your email address. Peter
Very nice review Sir!
Glad you liked it!
Hi Peter, another brilliant video thank you
Many thanks. Peter
Thanks Peter, good couple of videos. As usual you have persuaded me. I now love Festool gear. Keep these vids coming. Cheers, John.
Hi John, Many thanks. I am not sure where you will find the keenest price. When I bought mine I paid the full price and I am sure that it is cheaper now than it was then. I just replied to someone on the Part 1 video who was worried about the price - this saw will pay for itself in terms of quality of work, reliability and throughput. Cheers. Peter
Good video thank you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video Peter and having had the pleasure of using this saw myself, I'll totally agree with you regarding the quality.
Hi Mark, Many thanks - yes it is a beautiful saw. Peter
Great review well explained. Many thanks
Thank you Peter.
Hi Peter, you really have a talent for showing and breaking down the different features and capabilities of various tools. This is the 4th video of yours I watched, and I must say "Brilliant!"..lol
My question is weather or not you have had the chance to test out the Bosch GCM12GDL Glide Mitre Saw???
There are a couple of videos on it on RUclips, but I would definitely look forward to your review as I am currently deciding on buying either the Bosch or the Kapex.
The Bosch has practically all of the features that the Kapex has, and the glide mechanism seems allows you to make perfect "dado" cuts since it does not bounce up and down during the cuts.
If your not planning on making a video of the Bosch, let me know what you think about it....
Cheers!
Alex
Hi Peter, I recently treated myself to the Kapex Reb120. I have one gripe with it and wondered if you have had the same problem. When cutting a piece of material and removing approx 10mm or so on the waste side of the blade, that piece of waste gets caught in the blade guard and the spinning blade thus forcing it forward. It’s happened several times and it’s kind of worrying. Maybe you haven’t experienced it because of the fences you have added. Apart from that I love everything about the saw. 👍🏻 One more thing I have to say is, if you really want to know how good the dust extraction is. Use the saw for a few cut without dust extraction. If done that few times by mistake. 😂
Hi Jason, The solution is easy. You should add a pair of sacrificial pieces on the two halves of the rear fence. When doing any cut the fences should be positioned just wide enough for the saw blade. That way all offcuts, even very small ones, will not be caught and sent flying. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop cheers Peter. 😊
Peter, O have I just finished watching Kapex 120 Part 1. Thank you very clear and concise. Far more concise than 40 minutes of Festool Live!. I noticed that you said at the beginning of your video that you bought the Kapex to replace your old radial arm saw. May I ask why you replaced your radial arm saw? I still use mine daily and I am interested in the Kapex but not as a replacement but as an addition. I often find it very useful to have two saws (currently a Dewalt Radial Arm Saw and a Makita MK100 Mitre Saw) set up differently when making projects and of course the Kapex would be a great improvement on the Makita. It is the Makita I want to replace not the Dewalt RAS). Steve
Hi Steve, I had a Dewalt RAS which would go out of true whilst I drank my coffee. I had really looked after it from new and so, in the end, it had to go. I would not buy another as they are not accurate enough (for 90 degree cuts). If any wood is too wide for the Kapex I use my tracksaw cutting station which is even better than the Kapex (0.001 degree accuracy). Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop I won't question further how a tool could go out of use, whilst not being used, but of more relevance what is a tracksaw cutting station? Did you make a video about it?
Hi Steve, A tracksaw cutting station is a slab of MDF or plywood with a pattern of 20 mm holes on it. Just search for "Parf Guide System" or "Tracksaw Cutting Station" in RUclips or on Google. Here is a link to one of my many videos about the subject:
ruclips.net/video/EbVXWWyvfTw/видео.html
Many famous RUclips woodworkers have made videos about the Parf Guide System.
Peter
Excellent video thank you.
Cheers Dave. Peter
Hi Peter
Would it be possible to exchange the lasers for a shadow line light ?
Excellent videos as usual
Thanks peter
Hi Liam, No, not on the KS120. Cheers. Peter
The leather top desk what is the substrate you’re gluing the leather to? What type of glue are you going to use? I’m making a drop leaf desk and plan to glue leather to inside of the drop leaf
Hi Paul, The leather is being stuck directly to the MDF top of the desk. My friend provided the glue and I do not know what might be best to recommend. One needs a glue with a reasonable dwell time so that the leather can be adjusted right up until it is perfect which could take 30 minutes. Peter
Thanks peter
Cheers Robert. Peter
quick question. I just purchased a kapex 120 REB and the base is not perfectly flat and the fence not at perfect 90 degrees. Do you have any tips on how to fix?
Hi Mark, I am not sure how the base could be adjusted and it may be that you have to contact Festool. However, if your Kapex is not brand new then you could put an MDF piece, suitably shimmed, across the base. There are adjustments for squareness of cut - try and get a copy of the Festool Kapex Supplemental Manual. It used to be available from the Festool US web site but has been removed. Peter
Hi Peter. Great review, many thanks. I have just had a Makita 1060 die on me, after 15 years of use and naturally want to buy a replacement. However, after using the Parf guide system with Festool rails and the brilliant HK85 I am beginning to wonder whether I need a replacement at all. My question is, are there many jobs you find you need to turn to the Kapex for now in preference to the track saw..?
Hi Nigel, You may have seen me making some simple drawers recently... I find the Kapex invaluable for cross cutting within its capacity, particularly when a bevel or angle cut is required. For anything over 300 mm I use my cutting station created with the Parf Guide System (PGS). Peter
Hi Peter, Thank you for another great video. I have had my Kapex for almost a year now, lately my dust collection has become really poor. What length of hose are you using? I recently got the 36mm hose from Festool, which is about 4m but the extraction seems to be worse than what is was with the thinner 27mm one? Any other tips you may have to improve the dust collection as your setup seems to be working beautifully.
+Robert Head Hi Robert, I use a short length of 36 mm hose from the Kapex to the Dust Hub. If things have changed suddenly then check to see if the bag in the extractor needs changing, check the hose for trapped debris (this can happen quite easily) and also check the Kapex to see if there is a little bit of wood lodged there. If you have been cutting a lot of soft pine it can build up as a sticky lump. Peter
Hi Peter, thanks for the video - it's a very tempting saw. I have a 12" mitre saw which is the best I've had so far, very good quality cuts, fairly accurate with some tweaking, a fraction of the price, but the dust collection is appalling! Trenching is something I have never felt was very accurate on any mitre saws. Not only the variable pressure problem you describe but in my experience, none produce a trench that is parallel to the bottom of the stock. Would you say the blade height is constant from the front of the slide to the back? ie Is the top of the base parallel to the slide bars?
+Geoff Sheppard Hi Geoff, Yes trenching does let most mitre saws down. I am reasonably certain that the rails run parallel to the base it is just the pressure that can cause a dip if you are not careful. I am now quite good at Kapex trenching but get the odd mistake but usually the nature of trenching is that it will never show when the work is finished. I would not swap my Kapex for any other saw. Peter
+New Brit Workshop (Peter) It's easy to check - adjust the depth so that the blade sits just about on the base, at the forward limit, and run it from front to back and watch the gap. All of the high-end saws I have looked at in showrooms exhibit the same inaccuracy - but I haven't had a play with a Kapex. I realise it isn't the biggest blade but I'm not sure I fully understand some of the comments on the FOG about only managing a 4mm trench though.
+Geoff Sheppard Hi Geoff, There are a lot of people who clearly do not know how the use the Kapex properly. The first indicator is when they say that they get kick-back or pieces of wood fly off at speed after a cut. The maximum depth of a trenching cut will vary according to the thickness of the stock. You also have to have a false rear fence of about 50 mm to bring the work piece forward in order to get the same depth all the way through. Peter
Hi Peter, Thanks a lot for this great video!! To what percentage are you using your Kapex, track saw and the table saw? I own a Mafell track saw and was thinking of complenting it with the Kapex mitre saw. Does this make sense? Or would you rather sugest to go for a table saw?
+Henning Gohlke Hi Henning, I use each of the Kapex, CMS-TS (table saw) and TS55 (track saw) about the same amount each day. If I had to prioritise between the 3 machines I would find it difficult. The Kapex is absolutely essential (square cuts and perfectly clean). The CMS-TS (track saw) is a dream and has taken over from my big table saw (thanks to the TS 55 track saw for doing the sheet work). I would not go back to the days of having a table saw even if I were given the world's most expensive machine. My woodwork has been transformed by the Kapex, TS55 track saw and the CMS-TS. I also have to add the simply brilliant Domino as well. I will not go back - never - and nobody will ever be able to persuade me to change my mind. Peter
+New Brit Workshop (Peter) Thanks Peter, this helps a lot, since I value your opinions a lot!!
Peter, I'm a very busy finish carpenter and I currently use a Bosch axial glide it is a great machine but the dust collection leaves a lot to desire. I was hoping to get a unbiased and hounest opinion about the kapex. will it do well in a job site environment where it will be required to make hundreds of cuts in a daily basis? will it stay true while making bevel cuts and miter cuts? will the motor withstand the abuse of hundreds of cuts in a daily basis. is the dust collection as good as everyone says it is? thanks.
+carpenter33 Do you know about the Festool Owners Group (FOG)? If you do you will have seen hundreds of reports from professionals saying that the Kapex is brilliant. There are one or two who have different views which may be based on good experience with another saw and lack of experience of the Kapex. I am delighted with the Kapex dust collection. I really need accurate and repeatable cuts and I get that with the Kapex. I do not take my machine off site but I can vouch for the many FOGgers who claim that it is great when transported. When I did my market research 5 years ago I had two contenders left in the bag - the Bosch Glide and the Kapex. When I heard about the poor dust collection of the Bosch and the advantage of the double lasers on the Kapex I made my decision. I have never regretted going with the Kapex. I paid full price for my Kapex which I bought from Axminster. Peter
Thanks Peter.
Peter - are you using the blade that came with the Kapex or the fine tooth blade (80 tooth)?
Hi Darrin, I always have the 80 tooth blade in the Kapex. Peter
Great video. I would ask you for an advice. My local festool dealer suggests me to buy the Precisio CS 70 instead of the combination of KS120 + TS 55 for ripping and crosscutting. What do you think about it?
Hi Francesco, I would love to have a Precisio but you cannot cut up sheet goods as accurately with it when compared to the TS55 with guide rails (using a top created with the Parf Guide System of course !). Also, The Kapex is a fantastic mitre saw and will cut very accurately at almost any angle you need. So, as much as I would love to have a Precisio for general ripping I would not go for what your dealer recommends. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Thank you for your kind reply. How can I get your construction plans I'm interested in? may I leave my email in this channel?
Hi there, I have same machine connect ctl 26 with 36 mm hose but mine making lots if dust!!! Dust port look normal nothing block, and speed of the cutting I make lowest but everything I am cuting sliding style make lots of dust I didn't understand
I bought this machine cos of the dust extractions better but I don't see its horrible around the machine making lots dust. Should I contact to festool?
Hi Kubilay, When the Kapex is connected to the CT it will take a couple of seconds for the CT to get up to speed so pause slightly after starting the Kapex. The Kapex does have an excellent dust collection design but even so some dust will always escape. Peter
@NewBritWorkshop thanks I will try it, I have boom arm 50 mm 2.5 m and 36 m 2.5 so total 5 metter sucking power its fine maybe cos of the hose legnte it's effect? I am super happy with festool machines size,sound ,qualify only kapex dust bothering me rest are perfect.
Oh, that 5 m really does make a difference. I have a short (1.2 m) piece of 36 mm hose that goes from the Kapex to the extractor. Perhaps waiting a dash before cutting will help then. Peter
@NewBritWorkshop I will try to connect 50 mm hose to kapex we will see what is different than.
What is the thickness of the wood fences?
I used 8 mm thick stock but you could go as thin as 6 mm with no problem. Peter
I like how you leave the blade down after you cut. I tend to do that also for different reasons as my miter saw is old. I will be purchasing my first Kaypex this weekend, and will continue to do the same. As you mentioned, the blade stop’s quickly. I think keeping the blade down prevents double cuts. Rick at WoodRicks
Ciao Peter, thank you so much.
For some reason I am not able to read your message and I dont know how to send a pm with youtube.
Be patience, can you help me?
Thx chris
christian buzio Hi Christian, To send a personal message click on "New Brit Workshop" to the left of this message. Then look for the "About" tab, click on that and then select "Send Message". To read personal messages sent to you go to "Community", then "Messages". Peter
New Brit Workshop hope is this one . My mail is christianbuzio@tiscali.it. thank you so much.
Android show me different messages, community does not exist....thx again hugs Chris
holy crap its a £1000 now thats expensive
It took me several weeks to make up my mind to buy the Kapex. I did a huge amount of research and looked for any negative comments (found none). I have just built a pedestal desk to the highest standard that I have ever achieved (thanks to the Kapex and Domino) and if I were to sell it I would make my hourly rate plus enough to buy a new Kapex - to me the decision to buy the Kapex is now a no brainer. Peter