Making a USB adapter for Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro

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  • Опубликовано: 7 май 2020
  • In this video I show how to make an USB adapter for the wonderful Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro. This joystick was a childhood dream and I bought a used one very cheap on the internet. Not only it is very precise (and quite heavy) but the force feedback is very nice too.
    The diagram and the .hex file are available in this link:
    code.google.com/archive/p/ada...
    I don't go in details how the program works but it's very interesting and you can find information in online forums.
    The adapter is fully functional and I use it to play on a weekly basis. I'm planing to make a more compact version using a PCB.
    I hope you guys enjoy!

Комментарии • 189

  • @gregoryzloch9106
    @gregoryzloch9106 4 месяца назад +3

    Great job man! Thanks for this. I can’t wait to build this to finally use my FFB pro again. I’ll never give that stick up. It’s the best.

  • @lucianodarriba
    @lucianodarriba 2 года назад +3

    You are a monster, pal!!!!!! This solution is the dream of every Sidewinder lover!!!! I don't how you don't have 100.000 subscriptions!!! Awesome!!!!! Thanks!!!

  • @grinsekotze
    @grinsekotze 2 месяца назад +1

    force feedback in windows 11? it really works! thank you very much for introducing this great project.

  • @RanaRandom
    @RanaRandom 2 года назад +1

    8:16 That program interface brought me back during windows 98/2000 era. I Remember buying a PC controller that looked like a PSX, who loved to *drift* for some weird reason while playing MIcrosoft's HELLBENDER.

  • @achbanilacran2061
    @achbanilacran2061 3 года назад +5

    Just finished making this! YOU! ARE! A! STAR! worked like a charm.! Had to remove the capacitors, windows wouldn't recognize it with the lil' foickers on there! but after removing them....SWEEEE-EEET! Thanks man! all the best to you!

  • @KaganRustem
    @KaganRustem 3 года назад +13

    Thank you so much! I have been holding onto my joystick for nearly 15 years in the hope I can use it again some day. With MS Flight Simulator 2020 around the corner, this will be amazing!

    • @MrTiti
      @MrTiti Год назад +1

      how does it work?
      i just found mine also, after 22 years

    • @christreedee
      @christreedee Год назад

      @@MrTiti have a basic serial adapter to usb, can you get it to work with a driver LHU wff ? thank you

    • @MrTiti
      @MrTiti Год назад

      @@christreedee i do not know, i use the microchip, i think you could write it, but why waste so much time? its hellish complicated. microsoft really shall do that.

  • @andrewstewart1464
    @andrewstewart1464 3 года назад +2

    Thank you so much! The Achilles heel of these sticks in modern times has always been a lack of modern drivers and connections for proper input and FF processing. All of this disappears now with a simple chip, soldering, and easy software! I can now order one off eBay with confidence!

  • @BTKCuk
    @BTKCuk 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video - i followed your instructions and it worked 1st go. I didn't use the breadboard, just soldered the resistors and capacitors straight on to the teensy board which made it nice and neat. Just waiting for native FFB support in MSFS2020 now. It works fine in DCS, but there are very little FFB effects in that sim, though the Huey force-trim works great (which is the main reason for me wanting FFB).

  • @rainmaker3987
    @rainmaker3987 3 года назад +2

    You absolute legend, thank you for the video

  • @igorlatgamingchannel3237
    @igorlatgamingchannel3237 Год назад +1

    Wonderfull instruction which gives me the option to alternativly use my good old MS Sidewinder FFB Pro gameport joysticks or my MS Sidewinder FFB steering wheel on my main-pc. The video-tutorial is fantastic.
    I built 4 adapters. Each of them was working for a short time. But now 3 of my 4 adapters don't work. I bent the two 2k2 resistors and produced a short circuit on the teensy2.0 board. It worked fine for a short time. The 4th adapter I built works fine with my main-pc (win10). I'm so happy that my main-pc is working perfect with the LUFA-joystick-emulation. In combination with x360ce the adapter allows me to play gta online simultanly with keyboard an mouse, steering wheel and pedals and the MS Sidewinder FF Pro for helicopters and planes. The steering wheel is a MS SW FFB with usb-port
    Unfortuneatly it seems to be unpossible to buy the resistors with a 10% tolerance. Only 1 and 5 % resistors are available when I start a Google shopping search.
    I think that I need
    2 x 2,2 kohm resistors red red black brown silver tolerance 10% and
    1 x 220 ohm resistor red red black black silver tolerance 10%
    for each adapter.
    Can You write me where to buy them, please?
    Great work, Sir.
    Thank You very much.
    Sincerley Yours

  • @RobertoDias63
    @RobertoDias63 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Conrado! I hope to build one for me soon.

  • @drudruzin
    @drudruzin 3 года назад +1

    Gostei de ver só pelo amor a restaurar uma coisa. Parabéns cara.

  • @Weizboy
    @Weizboy Год назад +1

    Thank you! I want to make this like yesterday, why don’t you have lots of this? You make something so amazing and I don’t know where to go and buy the modules and stuff.

  • @Dizzy0584
    @Dizzy0584 3 года назад +3

    @Conrado Vergueiro Thank you so much for making this video! I had read about this before but could never understand how to actually do it.
    Your video made it easy to understand and replicate, my FFB Pro works flawlessly in MSFS2020 now! Thank You!

    • @SolverTwins
      @SolverTwins 3 года назад +1

      In MSFS2020 how yoy use the force feedback? and how you configure it? can you help me?

    • @55damien55
      @55damien55 3 года назад

      Hi @Dizzy0584, I'm curious too as to what settings you used. Does the FFB work?

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      Funciona con fs2020? Con FFB?

  • @sctobi1111
    @sctobi1111 3 года назад +4

    Thanks alot! Worked first try, everything perfect. Now I only have to get it off the breadboard ^^
    Really cool since I had this old joystick laying around anyways and wanted to play the new MS Flightsimulator :)

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Great news sctobi1111! I hope you manage to build something prettier than my mint tin adapter, lol. I'm looking forward to playing the new MS flightsim as well ;)

    • @55damien55
      @55damien55 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro , Did you manage to make it work in MS2020 with FFB and the teensy adapter? Did you have any success with any other games?

  • @vcostainternet
    @vcostainternet 3 года назад +1

    fantastic! parabens e obrigado Conrado, vou construir um...!!!

  • @guifalcades7485
    @guifalcades7485 4 года назад +2

    Muito bom! Vou testar aqui pra ver se funciona.
    Obrigado

  • @hunbraze
    @hunbraze 2 года назад +1

    Just finished it yesterday, it works great! Thanks Mate!

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      Can You help me!!! Please... it does not work for me!

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze Год назад

      @@javierpalenciarueda5819 I am super dumb in electronic. I just followed this vid with all it's tinest details. Rewinded quite a few time to make sure it was identical. My guess is that you made a tiny plug mistake in the breadboard. Hopefully nothing wrong with the soldering. Good luck!

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      @@hunbraze Thanks, I'll check it again... did the circuit work for you??

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze Год назад

      @@javierpalenciarueda5819 Yes. Everything was indentical to the video though. I went to my local electronic shop where the guy helped me buy the proper resistor and such.
      The only thing I can think of is that when I bought the microchip recommended, it was starting to get discontinued for a V2 version. I don't know if you got the exact same chip or the newer one. Got the old (the one in the video) and works like a charm. If I find my notes in my chaos, I will write you down the components I used. But it is a far fech project. Might never find them.

    • @user-en8gw8cp6j
      @user-en8gw8cp6j 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@hunbraze support FFB?

  • @julianjackson6824
    @julianjackson6824 2 года назад +3

    Joy oh Joy, oh Frabjous day! Thank you Conrado, the contraption is working fine and my lovely old joystick looks to be back on line.
    IDIOT BEGINNER'S MISTAKE: You need to solder *all* the pins on the Teensy or the joystick won't work. Because I'm bad at soldering, I only did every other one, and nothing happened. On Win 10 the joystick comes up in Settings>Bluetooth and other devices; in Device Manager it's HID compliant game controller. Enjoy!

  • @vcostainternet
    @vcostainternet 2 года назад +2

    again! just came here to say thanks!
    I made a converter and it worked! BTW what game where you testing with?
    BTW by this example is possible to create a converter to a PS3 right? I dont mean even to get FFB just the joy control...

  • @klowdzmcvee9133
    @klowdzmcvee9133 2 года назад

    Thanks man!

  • @017524062
    @017524062 2 года назад +1

    excellent thanks.

  • @zeart2939
    @zeart2939 11 месяцев назад

    Dthanks for the video, does it work with the streering wheel and pedals?

  • @ahmedsalah7474
    @ahmedsalah7474 3 года назад +3

    You just earned a new subscriber, That was genius! please Conrad tell me if this can work with Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel? I have been searching internet since 2012 for a solution to make it work on USB but with no luck, please just tell me what to do and i will do it.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +2

      Hello Ahmed! Thank you! Unfortunately this will only work with the force feedback pro joystick. As you can see here the project for the wheel was started by another developer but abandoned. github.com/tloimu/adapt-ffb-joy/blob/wiki/Project.md
      I have never used the Wheel, but from the requests I guess it must be a very good product.

  • @XPilotSimPro
    @XPilotSimPro 3 года назад +1

    Hi Conrado, that is Super Cool. I have my MS S FFB Pro Laying around and would like to use it again. Would you consider selling the compact version PCB?

  • @tonymoliterni
    @tonymoliterni 4 года назад +1

    Muchas gracias por el aporte, no es fácil de construir para cualquiera, pero me gustaría hacer el intento. Hay algunos videos en internet pero no son ni por lejos tan buenos como este. Yo quisiera que mi hijo use el joystick, espero hacerlo funcionar. Gracias. Thank you very much for the contribution, it is not easy to build for anyone, but I would like to try. There are some videos on the internet but they are not anywhere near as good as this one. I would like my son to use the joystick, I hope to make it work. Thank you.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  4 года назад +2

      Gracias Tony! I used it for 6 months on the breadboard before building the soldered version. On my first build I inverted some wires and the force feedback wasn't working properly. You just have to be paying attention to the pins and everything will work fine. I hope it works for you! Also nice guitar playing there, I'm also a fan of Frank Zappa :) Saludos desde Brasil!

  • @jasaircraft
    @jasaircraft 2 года назад

    Genio!!🎉🕶

  • @timoalbert8819
    @timoalbert8819 2 года назад +1

    You are a hero!
    I played Star Wars Episode 1 Racer with this Joystick until my hand hurt, because the force feedback of this monster was SO STRONG! Even had to losen my grip to disable feedback (IR-sensor in the handle) sometimes. Even NFS was so much fun with it!
    I was shocked when Microsoft decided to kill the game port with Windows 7 and my beloved Joystick became obsolete. It still has to be at my parents house somewhere and I'd definitely like to try out your solution!
    Can you say anything about the input delay? And does the IR-sensor still work?
    I re-bought Star Wars Episode 1 Racer years ago because you can't install the original (installer is a 16bit programm that doesn't run on a newer OS). Was always disapponted about playing this game with an xbox controller and right now i'm kind of hyped playing it again!

  • @luzten
    @luzten 4 месяца назад

    Alo Conrado, muito obrigado por este gran video. I have one question, do you think this adaptation will work on Linux as well? I am planning in buying the joystick to play with on X-Plane 12 and MSFS 2020 with proton. Thank you once more!

  • @Nissan_Lev-Ran
    @Nissan_Lev-Ran 3 года назад +1

    GREAT!!!! I am so happy that I kept my good old Sidewinder Force Feedback pro.... Now with my MS Flight Simulator 2020 I would like to know if there is a way to buy a kit, or a built adapter. I'll appreciate it VERY much if so.
    There is a shortage in the Joystick market since 2020 was launched.... Help please - hate using the keyboard....

  • @tomcat8043
    @tomcat8043 3 года назад +1

    Conrado, there are some discrepancy between your comments and the diagram itself. Would you please explain which connection is correct? On the diagram Teensy board pins PB03, PB4 and some others as well are connected to DB15 no13 & no10 pins respectively, but on your hand drawing in video we have PB3 to no14 and PB4 to no11. So, which one is correct?? Enlight us. Thank you
    I apologize, my fault, all is correct. I was mistaken by the number placement on this diagram. :/

  • @z80svtrx
    @z80svtrx 2 года назад

    Não entendo uma coisa,existe o hex e source para AVR,mas qual placa uso?
    A do vídeo não é um ARM7?

  • @MrTiti
    @MrTiti Год назад

    very nice, because i think today we can simply play those games, my pc is not modern, but my CPU uses little power and i can play all i ever wanted, with super grafics, and a great 27" screen with 140% RGB gamut

  • @kruzweg3860
    @kruzweg3860 3 года назад +3

    Hi Conrado, as I am not the electronics specialist I would be interested to buy such an adapter, as I have the same joystick. Would it be possible that you sell one adapter? Cheers, Mitch

  • @randomtask99
    @randomtask99 3 года назад

    I programmed my Teensy board OK using the hex file but Windows 10 doesn't recogised it when I plug it back into a USB port. I haven't soldered the wires to the board yet but I would still expect the Teensy board to work over the USB port with Windows. Do you know if the USB part still works with no joystick connected?

  • @tomroubsouay
    @tomroubsouay 3 года назад

    Great video!
    Will this work with other Teensy board like 3.2 and newer?
    Or strictly work on 2.0 board.
    Thank you in advance

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Thank you Tom! Unfortunately this one only works with teensy 2.0 and the sidewinder ffb pro.

  • @heliomirandagoraieb2151
    @heliomirandagoraieb2151 3 года назад +4

    Interessante,sempre tive vontade de tentar, estou quase comprando um. Você poderia vende-lo montado no ML (ou Ebay) e faria sucesso. []s

  • @3d_workbench688
    @3d_workbench688 2 года назад

    Will this work for Suncom F-15E Talon joystick guys?

  • @-OnionTerror-
    @-OnionTerror- 3 года назад

    Thanks very much for your video! If one already has the original usb adapter from the later versions of the sidewinder presision pro, would that also work? Also do you know if there are any specific advantages of getting a force feedback 2 over the FFB pro with the usb adaptor? Thanks!

    • @markusa3803
      @markusa3803 3 года назад +1

      The big disadvantage of the force feedback 2 is the price. It goes for ~ 200$, while the force feedback 1 goes from anywhere between 20 and 80$.

  • @TheLalozzy001
    @TheLalozzy001 3 года назад

    Hello there. I want to use a sidewinder 3d pro in windows 10, do you think this adapter can work? Does it have to be somehow modified or maybe another hex file...

  • @seuratguy
    @seuratguy Год назад +1

    Can you recommend a place to get all the parts?

  • @peverilwalsh7620
    @peverilwalsh7620 3 года назад

    My Sidewinder Feedback Pro joystick has a Product I.D. beginning 66883. Would this adaptor work with my Windows 10 laptop? Also would it work on my 2018 iMac?

  • @djteejay87
    @djteejay87 3 года назад +1

    Will this work on win7 32bit?

  • @user-ee8qv4jb4n
    @user-ee8qv4jb4n 2 года назад

    Ок. Спасибо. Всё работает!!!

  • @arnefreymann313
    @arnefreymann313 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for your work. That is exactly, what I need for my almost untouched Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro. Does it run on MS Windows10 also?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Hi Arne. Yes it does. I use windows 10 and it works perfectly.

    • @arnefreymann313
      @arnefreymann313 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro That will work fine with my XPlane11 FS programm later on and the rockfire adapter as housing.

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      @@conradovergueiro please, can You help me, I followed the instructions but it does not work for me... Please

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  Год назад

      @@javierpalenciarueda5819 Hi Javier, have you double checked the pins? When I was mounting I made a mistake and found out after checking 3 times. Can you give me more details? This only works with the sidewinder ffb pro

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      Thanks everyone, it worked, it was a bad soldering. I tried it with fsx, it works the same as with FS2020. excellent work @conrado vergueiro

  • @GenericJohnDoe
    @GenericJohnDoe 2 года назад +1

    Will this work even under Win10 and old but refurbished games from GoG like Descent Freespace 1 and 2, x-Wing Alliance and etc.?

  • @roderickjamesriddick6255
    @roderickjamesriddick6255 3 года назад

    Where on earth did you get your parts, because in the uk no more MAPLIN SPARES.

  • @nadie_gana
    @nadie_gana 4 года назад +1

    Great tutorial, does I it work on the sidewinder force feedback wheel ?

    • @joshman5379
      @joshman5379 4 года назад +3

      github.com/tloimu/adapt-ffb-joy/blob/wiki/Project.md Support for Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel
      Started by another developer, but not completed and seemingly abandoned since.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! This one only works for the joystick. Unfortunately, like joshman said here bellow the project for the wheel was abandoned. It would be great to seesomeone try tho.

  • @Hermesaile
    @Hermesaile 3 месяца назад

    Hi Conrado! I tried to made one and windows doesnt recognize the Joystick. I'm working with windows 11, and i bought the Teensy 2.0 from Aliexpress, maybe i need to boot the board first with a certain code?
    Thanks.

  • @javierpalenciarueda5819
    @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

    good afternoon, I followed step by step the creation of connections, values ​​of the resistors and components, however I can't get the FFB to work. I don't know if the HEX works to date, if the teensy 2.0 is valid. Someone currently has the joystick operational that can tell me what elements it is using. Thank you!

  • @heliomirandagoraieb2151
    @heliomirandagoraieb2151 3 года назад +1

    Parabens, funciona mas gostaria de saber qual é a diferença das 3 roms que voce disponibiliza pra download?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Oi Hélio, muito obrigado! A versão r54 é a uma das últimas com suporte apenas para o joystick. Ela foi a que funcionou melhor para mim, as outras deram bug. Toda a história do desenvolvimento do programa incluindo a trabalho de engenharia reversa do joystick está nesse link aqui www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?t=19061&start=160

  • @arielpedraza07gamer85
    @arielpedraza07gamer85 3 года назад

    Holaa Conrado, tengo un problema, ya hice todo y la luz del joystick enciende, pero no tengo ningun feedback y tampoco lo reconoce mi pc

  • @gregoryzloch9106
    @gregoryzloch9106 4 месяца назад

    The schematic shows 4 potentiometers labelled Rx, Ry, Rp1 and Rp2. You didn’t use those in your circuit and there was no mention about them either. Do they really need to be in there? If not, then what connections need to be made to pins PF0, PF1, PF4 and PF5? Thank you

  • @Nelsontbone
    @Nelsontbone 3 года назад

    Sensacional Conrado, eu tinha dúvidas se esse esquema do FBBJoy funcionava mesmo com force feedback, mas pelo que eu vi o seu SW é dos primeiros modelos e funcionou, certo? Sabes se teria como fazer com Arduíno ao invés da Teensy?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Muito obrigado Nelson! Funciona melhor em jogos que aproveitam mais o ffb como é o caso de simulador de caça. Com arduino esse código não funciona, apenas com o teensy 2.0, até porque os pinos mudam mesmo usando o mesmo chip.

    • @Nelsontbone
      @Nelsontbone 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro cara valeu o retorno! Então, o arduino é mais barato que a teensy né? Por isso a pergunta. Mas como eu sou zero com essas coisas vou tentar montar seguindo o roteiro mesmo, agora que vi que realmente funciona. Eu quero jogar descent e os jogos do star Wars da década de 90, X wing e tie fighter, e aquele do pod racer, esse tem um ffb violento hahahahhhaha

  • @Marcus30011979
    @Marcus30011979 3 года назад

    force feed back working ?

  • @robertspencer5377
    @robertspencer5377 3 года назад

    the Utube video doesn't show the link for the adaptffbjoy-r54.hex. can you or someone send me or post the link

  • @javierpalenciarueda5819
    @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

    Hello!!!! Works with FS2020?

  • @jeanfrarugama3423
    @jeanfrarugama3423 Месяц назад

    Does this work for windows Xp? I have an older computer I play my games on which happens to not have a game port.

  • @maxwellpellerin6546
    @maxwellpellerin6546 3 года назад +1

    Is there a way to tune the FFB? Is that what the pots are for, I haven't put those in the circuit yet.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +2

      Hello Maxwell, they are for additional controls like trims. I haven't use them. The FFB is adjusted in game.

  • @enricocerica6637
    @enricocerica6637 3 года назад +1

    I can't get any force feedback, I tried with a game where I get heptic with my xBox gamepad but when using the Sidewinder nope. Do you guys succeeded with the FFB ?
    Is there something I have to change in the kit to improve it ? I'm using the first Sidewinder FFB pro, the one with the fan (I disconnected it, too noisy ;) )
    And FYI, the Sidewinder is connected to the 12V adapter and it seems that the FFB engine is working as I notice a resistance on the stick but no FFB effect received from the games.
    Thanks

    • @enricocerica6637
      @enricocerica6637 3 года назад +1

      Ok, FFB is working fine now, some pin on the teensy was probably not well connected.

  • @enricocerica6637
    @enricocerica6637 3 года назад +2

    It works for me on Windows 10, thanks a lot for reviving this wonderful joystick ! What about the sidewinder FFB wheel, I tried but it is not recognized, is there another solution ? Thanks
    Edit : Ok, saw in posts below that there was another project for the wheel but it seems abandoned, too bad.
    Edit : For those interested in using the Sidewinder wheel, here is a link to a page where you can download a sidewinder_firmware package containing an hex file for the wheel, I tested it and ho joy, it works !!!!

    • @davidsacristan
      @davidsacristan 2 года назад

      Hi Enrico. I also looking for a DIY adapter for the FFB wheel. Could you please attach the link to the page with sidewinder_firmware package? thanks in advance

    • @phil4087
      @phil4087 2 года назад

      @@davidsacristan if you found it, please let me know. Interested in this as well!

    • @javierpalenciarueda5819
      @javierpalenciarueda5819 Год назад

      @Enrico cerica Can You help me?.. my ffb does not receive current (5v) but when testing it with an LED it generates current, what could it be? They fbb no flash LED!

  • @MrGiulianoferrari
    @MrGiulianoferrari Год назад +1

    Cara parabéns !! !que aula !!! voce não faz um desses e vende ? Abraço !!

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  Год назад +1

      Obrigado amigo! Você não é a primeira pessoa a pedir. Eu realmente gostaria de fazer mas atualmente não tenho mais tempo disponível. Com o Teensy em mãos é bem fácil, se conhecer alguém que mexe com eletrônica.

  • @x1101126
    @x1101126 2 года назад

    Will the force feedback function supported by other game like DCS world?

  • @sh018q2316
    @sh018q2316 3 года назад +1

    Hi,
    Just wondering if anyone has done this kind of MOD to the Microsoft Sidewinder Force feedback wheel?

    • @monolofiminimal
      @monolofiminimal 2 года назад

      I'm also trying to get the Microsoft Sidewinder FFB gameport version working (I have both a pi pico/pi4 which can act as usb hid) but I haven't had any luck (as I am a beginner). Even the usb nest I bought does not work with it (I'm guessing because sidewinder series is all digital unless I am mistaken). Have you gotten around to getting it working yet?
      Edit: I found something that might work for us in this video "GamePort to USB Adapter for analog and digital joysticks" by Necroware

  • @FHamoudi
    @FHamoudi 3 года назад +1

    Hi Conrado, thank you for sharing your video. I managed to get hold of a teensy. I followed your video and managed to get my MS FFB Pro working on a breadboard. I have tried soldering and every attempt I get the teensy's LED constantly flashing and sadly the FFB is not detected. I checked the soldering and tested with a multimeter and it looks alright. Could you please advise what am I doing wrong? Is it a case of bad soldering? I look forward to hearing from you.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Hello Feras, the FFB was working while the teensy was in the breadboard? Try double checking all the wires. When I first tried I had the same problem, later I discovered I had one wire soldered to the wrong pin.

    • @FHamoudi
      @FHamoudi 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Hey Conrado, thank you for your prompt reply. I will do that.

    • @Weizboy
      @Weizboy Год назад

      I think it’s because you used the wrong resistors. Check the resistors values. 2.2k and the 220 resistor. Let me know,

  • @SP-sb6qp
    @SP-sb6qp Год назад

    Hi, I tried your handsome project using a Microsoft Sidewinder wheel, force feedback, but it didn't work. Have you some tips? Thank you

  • @djamelc
    @djamelc 3 года назад +1

    Could i buy one ?

  • @flaviotufino5380
    @flaviotufino5380 3 года назад

    Olá Conrado, tudo bem? Eu vi um joystick desse a venda e ele vem com um adaptador USB junto. Você saberia me dizer se com esse adaptador da pra reconhecer no windows 10?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Oi Flávio, tudo bem. Não sei se funcionaria. Eu bem que tentei comprar um adaptador mas na época não encontrei por isso parti para esse projeto que é certeza que funciona. Eu gosto muito desse joystick, era top de linha nos anos 90.

  • @Nza420
    @Nza420 3 года назад

    I am getting no throttle control in the configuration in MS Flight 2020.. :-(
    Otherwise, it works properly.

    • @bartdereu9267
      @bartdereu9267 3 года назад +1

      Do you have force feedback ? Here all axis and buttons work ok, but no FF

  • @these.are.my.things
    @these.are.my.things 3 года назад +1

    Hi I have one of these and it is working. However does the joystick automatically self center when you plug the power in without running the game? Or does it need to be in game for the centering to work.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Hello James, it self centers in gamewhen the ffb is working. Sometimes depending on the game (rise of flight for instance) it does not center untill the plane starts running for takeoff.

    • @these.are.my.things
      @these.are.my.things 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro thanks for that. I will test it properly tomorrow then.

  • @tomrak8656
    @tomrak8656 3 года назад +2

    Great solution and I'm also the one who want to play FS2020 .... may with my old hardware...I found my Sidewinder FFB pro but not sure if it's still working. I do not have any PC anymore with Gameport. Before I waist my time: When I plug in Power the fan is not working and no LED. Is that normal when not plugin into the gameport??? Can't remember after over 15 Years ;)

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Hello Tom, I don't hear any fan when I plug it, but the small LED blinks when it is not connected to the pc.

    • @tomrak8656
      @tomrak8656 3 года назад +1

      @@conradovergueiro Just want to give a short update. Even if my old Joystick give any lifesignal I ordert a teensy and gave it a try. When plugin the Gameport now the LED is flashing without Power, and with Power LED and fan is contsantly on. The Joysticks works perfect in Win10 and even FFB is working if supported or when I just enable some FFB simulations!!! Thanks for your Video again and I'm happy now continue playing with this Joystick after over 15 years ;). Thx and keep safe.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      @@tomrak8656 Hi Tom, That's great news! My joystick was laying around for years as well and it is working amazingly well. Those things were built to last! Best regards!

  • @foxxyytofficial
    @foxxyytofficial 4 года назад +1

    Ei amigo, esse tutorial serviria pro volante com FFB da microsoft?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Oi FoxxyYT, infelizmente não. Para o volante é necessário outro código e outro esquema de ligação. Um pessoal já tentou fazer mas abandonaram o projeto.

    • @foxxyytofficial
      @foxxyytofficial 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro droga... Eu queria manter a placa original mas não vai dar

  • @SolverTwins
    @SolverTwins 3 года назад +2

    I made it, and it works, the only thing that its not detected by il2, and I need to configure all the controls?, Can you help me? , or send a config file?.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Hi José, does it appear as a Lufa joystick? Are you using Windows? I had no problem using it with IL2 - great battles, but i had to configure all the axis and buttons.

    • @SolverTwins
      @SolverTwins 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro ok. I configure manually and its woks perfecto. Thanks for all

  • @hunbraze
    @hunbraze 2 года назад +1

    Newbie question. Could it work just with the breadboard (encased so there is no shorts)? Or I really need to learn soldering? :)

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  2 года назад +2

      Yes it works! I actually used it with the breadboard for almost a year!

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze 2 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Thanks a million!

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze 2 года назад +1

      @@conradovergueiro Since your'e so kind to answer, I will take my chance.
      - In the video you say "and 2 nanoFarad capacitors" and it confuse me. Do you mean "2 x 1 nanoFarad capacitors"?
      - Newbie question again. Do you think CAT 5e Ethernet network cables would be good for the colored cables? (If not, what gage am I a looking for please?)
      THANKS!

    • @musolo78
      @musolo78 2 года назад +1

      @@conradovergueiro Thanks for such detailed video! Wonder would it work with game port that has all 15 of pins. Like F-15E Talon with two hat swich and five buttons on the stick and 4 buttons and one slider swich on the base? if i did exactly what you did would it work partially at least? This video shows it ruclips.net/video/6Jl0DkayZzE/видео.html but it is not step by step like yours unfortunatelly.

  • @user-ee8qv4jb4n
    @user-ee8qv4jb4n 2 года назад

    Добрый день. К сожалению на вин10 .не прошивается. Прошивка записывается но при перезагрузке не работает. Светодиод моргает. Очень жаль.

  • @JoeSmith-zv4ic
    @JoeSmith-zv4ic 3 года назад +1

    I cant get my PC to recognise the teensy as a joystick with the downloaded HEX . Anyone have this problem and solve it?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Hi Joe, are you using Windows? Make sure the hex file is loaded to the teensy board, and that you are using a teensy 2.0

    • @JoeSmith-zv4ic
      @JoeSmith-zv4ic 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Thankyou for the fast response, Yeah its a 2.0. How do I check its actually on the board? I have loaded my custom joystick code it the Teensy. which is defiantly works.

  • @stuartsimpson2949
    @stuartsimpson2949 4 года назад +1

    Hi, any luck with the PCB? I would like to make one this way, thanks

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      No, I haven't got the time to make something more professional looking. But if you have practice with pcb it's quite simple to make.

    • @bartdereu9267
      @bartdereu9267 3 года назад

      I have them ordered at JCLPCB. I should recieve 5 of them soon. Let me know if you're interested.

    • @stuartsimpson2949
      @stuartsimpson2949 3 года назад

      @@bartdereu9267 Sure. Let me know the details, thanks

    • @externalelephant
      @externalelephant 3 года назад

      @@bartdereu9267 I'd be interested as well, if you have any left

  • @tonymoliterni
    @tonymoliterni 4 года назад

    Hola Conrado. Una pregunta. busqué en el enlace pero no encuentro cuales son todos los componentes necesarios para realizar la placa (transistor, integrado, resistencias, capacitores etc.) Como se llama eso donde va montado? eso que tiene varios agujeritos? Perdón por mi ignorancia..! Hello Conrado. A question. I looked for the link but I can't find what are all the necessary components to make the board (transistor, integrated, resistors, capacitors etc.). That which has several holes? Excuse my ignorance..!

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  4 года назад +1

      Tony, you can find the plan and material list here in this link: github.com/tloimu/adapt-ffb-joy/blob/wiki/HowToBuild.md
      Teensy 2.0 (with pins if implementing on a breadboard)
      DB15 female connector (game port)
      2 x 2.2k Ohm resistors
      1 x 220 Ohm resistors
      2 x 1 nF capacitors
      You also need some wires.
      The board with the holes is a breadboard en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadboard
      Here in Brazil we know it as "protoboard" and according to google it's called 'placa de pruebas' in spanish.

    • @tonymoliterni
      @tonymoliterni 4 года назад +1

      @@conradovergueiro Gracias, voy a averiguar todo esto y veré si puedo resolverlo, desde ya muchas gracias, te dejo un link de un par de video mio para que disfrutes: ruclips.net/video/WABIX-0uyvQ/видео.html y este otro ruclips.net/video/y1s2bC2xpyE/видео.html

    • @tonymoliterni
      @tonymoliterni 4 года назад

      Conrado, es este? is this? articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-777986974-teensy-20-with-pins-_JM?quantity=1#position=3&type=item&tracking_id=7525fefa-6902-4a85-9a1f-8f9db0f88987

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  4 года назад

      @@tonymoliterni No. Is the Teensy 2.0. It's a smaller one.
      articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-769839393-teensy-20-con-pins-_JM?quantity=1#position=3&type=item&tracking_id=00175d36-f3ab-481a-9bd8-aca64fcf71f5

    • @tonymoliterni
      @tonymoliterni 4 года назад +1

      @@conradovergueiro Gracias por tu respuesta y tu tiempo Conrado, PERO, es muy caro en Argentina, no lopuedo pagar, con amigos estuve averiguando por un Arduino, pero no están seguros de que funcione, además abría que hacer cambios en el programa, algo que yo desconozco, no creo que pueda tener suerte con la posibilidad de armarlo, me da tristeza por mi hijo, pero así son las cosas aquí. seguiré investigando. Muchas gracias por tu tiempo y paciencia.
      Thank you for your response and your time Conrado, BUT, it is very expensive in Argentina, I cannot pay it, with friends I was finding out about an Arduino, but they are not sure that it works, it also opened changes to the program, something that I do not know I don't think I can be lucky with the possibility of putting it together, it makes me sad for my son, but that's the way it is here. Keep investigating. Thank you very much for your time and patience.

  • @kiebat10
    @kiebat10 4 года назад

    Do you now if you can buy this complete ready to go

  • @joebiggs4387
    @joebiggs4387 Год назад

    I should’ve went to college.
    Damn, I won’t be using mine anytime soon.

  • @camiloalvarez9850
    @camiloalvarez9850 4 года назад +1

    Hi! I want to build this using an Arduino nano, do I have to write the code again?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  4 года назад

      Hello Camilo, yes you would have to. The .hex file I used is specific for the teensy 2.0. I believe the nano uses a different chip and different pins.

    • @Poonyas
      @Poonyas 4 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro I would use a pro micro but the pins might indeed be different than a teensy. If you happen to find any new info on using this with an arduino I would be happy to hear. ;)

    • @Poonyas
      @Poonyas 4 года назад

      code.google.com/archive/p/sidewinder-arduino/

  • @AlanBispo1974
    @AlanBispo1974 Год назад +1

    Fala Conrado, beleza? Cara, video muito foda mas eu não saco absolutamente nada de eletrônica, e a minha pergunta é: você faria um desses pra mim e quanto custaria? Eu tenho um microsoft sidewinder force feedback pro guardado na caixa e a tristeza de não poder usar mais é grande! Esse teu video me deixou muito animado!

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  Год назад +1

      Bom dia Alan tudo bem? Poxa eu faria para vender super contente mas infelizmente não estou conseguindo tempo para fazer devido a trabalho e família. Aqui nos comentários já vi alguns brasileiros que fizeram, um inclusive fez uns 3 se não me engano. Ás vezes eles podem te ajudar! Realmente, eu comprei esse joystick usado pois era meu sonho de infância e ele ainda é muito bom, não perde nada pra um novo, até porque é difícil um novo com force feedback. Não se livra dele não que tem jeito!

  • @peverilwalsh7620
    @peverilwalsh7620 3 года назад

    Hi, Can you advise me what wattage of resistors (2.2kohm & 220ohm) I need

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Hello! I ended up using a big one because that's what I had when I built it, but I believe you can use 1/4W resistors without any issues.

    • @peverilwalsh7620
      @peverilwalsh7620 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Thanks for coming back to me with that information. There are so many resistors to choose from and electronics is not my field.

    • @Dutch3DMaster
      @Dutch3DMaster 3 года назад +1

      @@peverilwalsh7620 Basically, without going into the really special territories when using resistors, it's almost like this: the bigger they come, the bigger the amount of heat they can dissipate. Since we are not dealing with Watts of power here you are fine with a regular resistor you can mount flush to a printed circuit board (or differently put "the small ones" :P )

    • @peverilwalsh7620
      @peverilwalsh7620 3 года назад

      @@Dutch3DMaster Thanks for the info

  • @heliomirandagoraieb2151
    @heliomirandagoraieb2151 3 года назад

    O seu parou de funcionar com esta ultima atualização do Windows X (10/2020)? Reconhece o hardware e ignora o driver. por não ser assinado.

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Bom dia Hélio, por enquanto não tive problemas. Testei ainda semana passada, vou testar novamente, fiquei preocupado agora.

    • @heliomirandagoraieb2151
      @heliomirandagoraieb2151 3 года назад +1

      Solved, desistalei os drives do controlador USB, habilitei drivers não instalados e reprogramei o tensy. Ok

  • @giovannisammarco9931
    @giovannisammarco9931 2 года назад

    hello nice project how can i buy it?

  • @bigned6448
    @bigned6448 3 года назад

    Would the official Microsoft adapter work?

  • @lolgamerhd2790
    @lolgamerhd2790 3 года назад

    how is the teensy.exe ?

  • @wezzil
    @wezzil 2 года назад

    Would you be willing to make one an sell it? An if so how much?

  • @arturbundchen6648
    @arturbundchen6648 3 года назад +1

    opa Conrado, eu tentei fazer o adaptador e infelizmente não deu certo. O microcontrolador não é reconhecido. :(

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад +1

      Bom dia Artur. Nossa que estranho, mas o Windows nem reconhece para programar ou após a programação? Tem um comentário aqui de outra pessoa quando o Windows atualizou e parou de reconhecer, veja se ajuda:
      Solved, desistalei os drives do controlador USB, habilitei drivers não instalados e reprogramei o tensy. Ok

    • @arturbundchen6648
      @arturbundchen6648 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Foi assim, eu conectei o circuito ja pronto pela primeira vez e dai o windows disse "configurando controlador usb", dai programei a placa, dai eu desconecto ela, conecto devolta e nada acontece. A versão do meu windows é a 21H1. Eu estou utilizando os capacitores e o ultimo arquivo .hex

  • @hunbraze
    @hunbraze 2 года назад

    What wire gage would you use pls?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  2 года назад +1

      Hi Jean, sorry for the delay. The cable I used was the 24 AWG. The capacitors are 1nanoFarad each

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze 2 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro You've been such a charm to help me that much. But after going to my local electronic shop, I figure I had other question: "What is the watt that you use for the Resistor and Capacitor?" I took the chance with 1/4 Watt resistors and caps. But should I replace them? THANKS MUCH for your time! Really appreciated!

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze 2 года назад

      I found a 240 Ohm 5% resistor (digikey returned me these info on color code of the resistor) laying around in my RC car kit. Could I use it instead of the 220 Ohms resistor since its close? or not close enough?

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  2 года назад +1

      @@hunbraze hi Jean. For the resistor I recommend using the 220 ohm, even though 240 looks close something may not work well. They are quite cheap. For the parts you can use 1/4 watt no problem.

    • @hunbraze
      @hunbraze 2 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro I know, it's just availability! I went to 3-4 local shop and no one had the 220 ohms. lol Thanks a lot!
      I am soooo eager to test it. I soldered the Tensy 2.0 to the 24 pins and the DB15 port; my first micro-soldering ever. Really happy of the result but can't wait to test it and only missing the 220 ohms resistors. ;) Thanks again!

  • @alejandrosicaro6653
    @alejandrosicaro6653 3 года назад +1

    Bom dia, Conrado !! Alto astral !!! en Argentina no estoy consiguiendo teensy 2.0 mega 32U4. Consigo "Arduino Pro Micro Atmega32u4 32u4 16 Mhz 32k Flash". Sirve tu código para ese arduino ? Muito obrigado, Campeao !

    • @conradovergueiro
      @conradovergueiro  3 года назад

      Buenos días Alejandro, Alto astral! haha Perdón por el retraso en la respuesta. Creo que el arduino tiene pines diferentes, por lo que el código y el esquema no funcionarían, solo para el Teensy. Para Arduino, se necesitaría otro código. :(

    • @alejandrosicaro6653
      @alejandrosicaro6653 3 года назад

      @@conradovergueiro Muy atento de tu parte. Como en Argentina se hacia muy complicado conseguir el teensy, me decidí por comprarlo hace unos días a China ... tardará pero creo que la espera vale bien la pena. Abrazo y muchas gracias !

  • @bartdereu9267
    @bartdereu9267 3 года назад +1

    My PCB is tested and working. But i think the software needs improvement. The forces are not relative to the ones you should feel (FSX). In FS2020 the joystick works, but i get no force feedback at all. Look at ibb.co/C9fWLwb

    • @55damien55
      @55damien55 3 года назад

      Nice PCB. Is this your own design? Have you made the FFB work in any games?

    • @bartdereu9267
      @bartdereu9267 3 года назад

      @@55damien55 Ya it's my own design.FFB works in FSX and DCS here, but not yet in FS2020. I have started to sent out devices, if you're interested , just send me an email. (bartdereu at gmail dot com)

    • @55damien55
      @55damien55 3 года назад

      @@bartdereu9267 , Have you tried this tool for FS2020: directinputmanager.com/airforceplayer/ ?

  • @bartdereu9267
    @bartdereu9267 3 года назад +2

    I have created a pcb for this. Anyone interested i ordered a few.

    • @ModshackMerlin
      @ModshackMerlin 3 года назад

      I'm interested, how much for the PCB?

    • @bartdereu9267
      @bartdereu9267 3 года назад

      ModshackMerlin . Can you email me on bartdereu at gmail dot com ?

    • @ModshackMerlin
      @ModshackMerlin 3 года назад

      @@bartdereu9267 Will do :)

    • @ValentijnvanVeen
      @ValentijnvanVeen 3 года назад

      Yes, very much interested indeed.

    • @bartdereu9267
      @bartdereu9267 3 года назад

      @@ValentijnvanVeen I have them ready, email me on bartdereu at gmail dot com and i'll get you in the mailing list with the details