Is TaylorMade Stealth bad for average golfers?
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What do you think of the Stealth?
I think in 3 years time, we will look back, say it was a good driver, but there were to many problems with it. I've already seen multiple faces detach from the driver and in my opinion, I think we will start to see the faces crack. Carbon fiber cars, when wrecked, don't hold up at all. They are asking this driver to withstand countless 100mph+ crashes for years and years. Ain't happening. I do think if you want to generate me club speed and more ball speed, make the heads smaller. 430 or even 400cc but find a way to make them forgiving. Been dying for you or Finch to do a video comparing a 460cc against a 430 or 400cc head just to see club speed and if it makes a difference. I think it does but I don't have the tech to figure it out. I personally think sometimes the way forward is looking at the past. What you think?
Love the stealth plus, but I’m a 4 handicap.
Tried it recently in two separate fittings. First fitting it performed well and the second time round, simply couldn’t hit it consistently. Much more consistent with the Callaway Rogue ST Max LS which will be going in the bag.
Im a scratch golfer and I can tell you it is a "Players" driver. I have a Sim2 and it still has a lot of forgiveness which I'm looking for more now off the tee after moving off of the M5 Tour. Even the regular stealth didn't feel very forgiving. I drive the ball fairly well but not willing to make sacrifices anymore. Now the stealth 3 wood. Game Changer!!!!
its all about Red and Black
Stealth driver, Rick shiels golf show,
Tiger Woods and Darth vader😂😂
Beware of the dark side..
I got fitted into the stealth. Went in excited about the cobra but I consistently had faster club and ball speed with the stealth. Really loved the way it felt and sounded.
I recently got fitted for a Stealth, granted the Callaway and Cobra drivers weren't being fitted at the time....weirdly...but I really enjoyed hitting it on the launch monitor and cant wait to see it out on the course. Once I got it to my specs it was incredible, but I definitely see how it just wont suit a lot of golfers...or they wont be confident hitting it. But for me it looks incredible, feels right in the my setup, and goes bloody miles.
Then again, lets see how it does on the tight fairways where I live! Hold on to your butts!
During my recent fitting we started off with the Callaway Rogue. I tried several shafts and landed on the Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X. Then I tried different heads to include the PING G425, and TM Stealth. I had decent results with the PING but it didn't suit my eye at address. The Stealth offered similar forgiveness for me and I preferred the looks at address. The red face helped me to line up much better where as the black on black PING made it a bit more difficult.
I have the stealth plus, and in the simulator my miss hits still went far and one of my friends got good speeds off the toe. I actually got it out on the course last week for the first time, and it was great. I had the original sim with the adjustable weight. Didn’t have a big miss the entire round. I will say I can’t hit other drivers just based off of how they look and feel at address. Tried all of the rogues last year couldn’t hit one straight.
Totally agree. I’m an 8 handicap golfer and went for a fitting. I was determined to like the callaway rogue as I love the epic flash but needed to upgrade for various reasons. Hated the Rogue just couldn’t get the right ball flight, tried the Stealth; hit on average 3 ok shots to every 1 great shot, tried the Ping g425, 5 solid shots in and I was sold. Out on the course the ping is so consistent and reliable.
I've got the stealth driver 12° loft with a senior flex shaft, love it. Hit 95% fairways ok I'm a senior and only hit it 230yds but compared to my old driver a sim its reduced my handicap index by 3 in the 3 months I've had it.
Hit the m1, Sim, and Sim 2, im in the stealth plus now and love it, feel like I can be more accurate with it while adding some yardage. I think it improved my disbursement quite a bit! Thanks!
If the Stealth isn't very forgiving, I can't see parting with $800 Canadian. I mean, that's almost 3 full tanks of gas.
It’s very forgiving in my opinion
Where are you finding gas so cheap these days
You won't know until you hit it. Some people love it and others don't just like with literally every other golf club. I personally love it.
Try the Tour edge exotics c722. Same technology as the top brands at the fraction of the price
It’s not nearly as good as the sim. Terrible look at address and doesn’t feel good at all for me. Sim for the coming years
I tried the Callaway Rogue, Cobra LTDx and the Taylor Made Stealth. For me the Stealth came out head and shoulders above the others. I am a handicap of 13 and was playing the Epic Flash but was looking for a bit more distance. The Stealth for me gave me more ball speed and carry, suited my game better and the 3 wood is awesome.
That 3 wood is out of this world, last years RAD speed is almost as good distance but WAY more forgiveness.
the 5 wood is fantastic
Went for a custom fitting last week and didn't have any preferences. Ended up with Callaway Rogue Max LS. Didn't enjoy hitting the Stealth one bit. Dreadful feel and was all over the place. Absolutely love my Rogue. Great chat as always guys.
I have tried both the Stealth and the Stealth+, and I found they were spinning way too much for my liking (around upper 3000), but I went and tried the Callaway Rogue ST Max LS and found that it was producing the most optimal numbers for me I have ever seen. So obviously I have the Callaway driver in the bag.
Totally agree! I tried the stealth and didn’t get on with it, then tried a Srixon ZX7 and loved it! More consistent and 20-30yds further!
I have the Stealth irons and really like them. I'm a second season golfer and last year into this summer I had a set of Taylormade Burners that I traded a 24 pack of beer to acquire. I got used to them and in July of this year I started shooting in the 80s. I figured I was improving and enjoying golf so I invested in a set of Stealth irons. It took me a few weeks to get accustomed to the lower loft and the different feel, but now I'm hitting it further per club than I was with the Burners. I know this video is about the Stealth driver which I do not have, but I still thought I'd share.
I recently got a new driver. Went in for a fitting. I was so excited to hit the stealth. I could not hit it at all well constantly. I ended up with Cobra LTDx. Love it!
Glad I ran into this vid. I am currently looking at a full bag fitting and I am between the Ping 425 vs the Stealth. I do plan to hit them both, but it is good to know that the performance in the sim bay does not translate to the real driving range.
65 years old, average golfer and will never be on any tour!! lol
Went to get fitted for a new driver for the first time ever and could not hit any club that I tried, but I walked out with a new Stealth Plus driver. Like any club you have to learn how to use it and adapt to your swing, I LOVE it.
Longer more consistent and straighter drivers, no longer spraying the ball all over the place. Hitting more fairways.
Everybody has their thing, some will like and some won't. That's life
I agree! I’m new to golf and have been golfing now for about 6 to 7 months now. I’m getting better but I still have issues with consistency with my stealth driver! Just switched to ping g425 lst and couldn’t be happier! Gained over 20 consistent yards since the switch
Literally bought the 3 stealth over the Ping, Callaway, Titleist, and Wilson a few days ago. The TM was not the most forgiving or highest/fastest launching, but I make calls on club by what they feel like in the hand and how the ball can be manipulated consistently. The stealth had the best balance of forgiveness on off center hits while still having a very consistent feel where I wasn’t confused what I did wrong. The Titleist was too unforgiving. The others were too vague.
You don’t sound like “the average golfer.”
Replaced my SIM max with the stealth plus and I love it. It’s longer and I feel it’s more stable and my miss hits aren’t punished. I’m a scratch golfer so in general my miss hits aren’t that bad. I think it’s more of a players driver and when I hit the new callaways, I just really struggled with them. To big and bulky and just seemed to hit them all over the face.
Just went in for a fitting to hit some of the new drivers and compare to my TSI3. I'm with you guys, the Stealth looks fantastic, but for someone who has some strike issues, it was one of the shortest drivers for me. The Callaway was the closest to my TSI, but my current driver (which is only a year old) is still the best for me.
Tried it at Scottsdale golf, got fitted for Stealth plus with evnflow riptide small batch shaft. Had it out on course and range and have been really impressed. Decent distance gains with decent accuracy
I love my Stealth. Went for a fitting and it suited me the best. Played a few times on the course now and I cannot fault it at all. I find it extremely forgiving on the mishits and so satisfying on the good shots. Absolutely love playing with it.
I got fitted today. Tried the new TSR, g425, Rogue St, and Stealth. I was Leary of it because it’s seemed to have gotten a bad review. Ended up between the TSR and Stealth. As my nerves settled I was just way more consistent with the stealth. Averages 277 carry,288 total. Ball speed 148, club head 105.6. Spin 2200, ball flight height 28 yards. Can’t wait to smash some fairways with it.
Good video, I have had two driver fittings this week. One at silvermere which I wasn't happy with as I felt rushed and couldn't really get to know the drivers. So then I had one at Peter fields in Norfolk and they were much better. But on both occasions I tried the Stealth and could not get on with it. Didn't find the Callaway much kop either. I couldn't do no wrong with the ping but the noise wasn't great. Ended up with a Titleist tsi3. Have never been fitted before and will never buy off the shelf again after leaving with clubs I never thought I would like. The tsi3 felt amazing for me.
Love the concept of a “launch monitor driver”. I didn’t try stealth when being fit recently as the hype actually has the reverse effect and puts everything off. Handicap is irrelevant, I play off 2 and forgiveness is still more important to me than a few extra yards. I replaced my Rogue Sub Zero with Rogue ST Max LS. I maybe gained max 2 mph ball speed, and max 5 yards. But what I found is off centre hits were punished less, less drop off in speed and distance. Unless you are a tour pro, forgiveness is king and that is why I think Callaway / Ping will smash it this year.
I couldn't agree more. Well said. I like Titleist personally for the adjustability and the availability of shafts on the second hand market make it so easy to really dial in your driver, 3 wood, and hybrid/ 5 wood. Forgiveness seems to be there too
I felt exactly the same. I'm a 15 handicap and got fit for a new driver this year. Wasn't even interested in trying the Stealth based on all the reviews and how they were less forgiving. My goal was to get a club to help correct my worst shots, not accentuate my best shots. Ended up going with a Rogue ST Max D. Just waiting for it to arrive. 🙂
Spends 500$ for 2 yards lmao you're the idiots these golf companies love to market to lmao
I’m not gonna lie, I have not hit a Callaway wood in the last 10 years that I thought felt good. That’s just my swing and feel, and I get that. I’ve hit the G425, Stealth, TSi series, and Rogue’s; and for me, the TSi3 and Callaway’s had the widest range of misses. The Stealth definitely required shaft adjustments to get it dialed in, but when it right, it was very right. G425 is just a smooth swinging son of a bitch though.
@@mitchconner2021 did you read the next sentence in the comment you are replying to …
Guy, you are 100% correct! I have tried the the stealth when I went in for my fitting last month, and it was very unforgiving and lost a lot of distance on off-center hits. I was actually fitted into the titleist tsi3, which I wasn’t even considering when I went in and I love it!
I have always been team Taylormade but could not get behind the stealth driver as much as I tried. Ended up getting the new cobra LTDx LS, it’s AMAZING. Will definitely be my driver for a while
Went thru fitting process earlier this summer for a driver after being fit for P790s in the spring. I envisioned have a TM bag from top to bottom. I am a 19 handicap and the Stealth did not resonate with me at all. I ended up with the Rogue ST MAX as it checked all the boxes and am so happy for going thru the fitting process.
I also feel the stealth is such a big release that expectations are simply too high. I will not be swapping my sim2 max for the stealth but in a few years I will certainly update to whatever the latest TM driver is.
See I stayed with the M5 I didn’t go buy any of the sims series. I got stealth plus and love. I hit it further then my M5… I wanted to wait till they released a whole new driver face an all. If I was you since I love the sim2 I’d wait a few years. Then you will see more improvements. I won’t be buying a new driver prob in four years
When I got fitted for a driver this year (Replacing a really old nike driver), I was fit into the Rogue ls. I tried the stealth and it sounded nice. The distance was good but the mishits were not great whereas the rogue mishits where much more forgiving and the distances were not that far off. The distance itself between good hits with the rogue and stealth were only about 5 yards of carry sometimes, so I would rather have a little more forgiving driver. I was also concerned seeing posts on Reddit with pictures of the stealth drivers after a demo day. Durability might be an inside and I don’t plan on getting another driver for a long time. So I was happy with my choice and really could have been fit with either.
I went into 2021 with an 8 handicap with using the old R7 driver from early 2000s. I upgraded to an M4 driver for the start of the year and by the end of the year, dropped to a 5 handicap just from the driver upgrade. I found the M4 so much more forgiving and longer. Granted I was using old tech. However, I still use Taylormade LCG irons from the late 90s lol. They just still work so well for me. I upgraded to new Pings but went right back to my trusty Taylormades. It really is what you are comfortable and consistent with.
The TM P790 irons 👌
Just purchased the Stealth after a driver fitting which I was open minded to anything as long as it felt right and results were where I was happy / impressed with them and stealth was it. The weight and control of the swing itself I felt was the best of all brands I tried out … BUT haven’t gamed it yet out on the course so we’ll see
Update?
Hi Rick & Guy... I am finding this too. I love the look of the Stealth but I could not get on with it.
I got fitted last year from a spinny M6 to a TSi3 in 8°. I am an 8 hcp and fairly decent driver of the golf ball, however TaylorMade drivers in general usually spin too much for me and the stealth was no exception when I tried it on the fitting Bay this year. So important to not just buy off the rack.
Ping is great for dispersion ... Just can't get over the sound. 🔊😂
Went from the TM r7 limited to the stealth with the RDX smoke shaft.
Tried the rogue, TSi3 and the cobra but didn’t seem to hit them as well in the booth.
Took some getting used to it in the real world but I’m really liking it now
It’s funny, because I tried out the stealth drivers this week and had a similar experience. I normally play a TS2 in 8.5° and swing it about 110 Mph… so I figured I’d try the stealth plus in 9° and it was hideous. The ball would fly and drop like a rock (and I knew it could’ve been my swing because my driver was completely fine. However it couldn’t have been the stealth either because there is no way a driver could perform this badly). Something was off… I went back to the store and talked to a fitter, who was quick to help me with my problem. He explained that this new gen of drivers is made for low spin and differs quite a lot from the TS series from 2 years ago, which is why a 9° head would not be working for me as I didnt manage to generate enough spin. I switched to a 10.5 head it was a completely different experience. I bet this may be an issue many people have. I just find it intriguing how I can play an 8.5° TS2 and launch it higher than a 9° or 10.5° stealth. It’s an incredible driver nonetheless… enough for me to buy it? No, I’ll stick to my precious TS2 :)
I play ts3 at 9.5 turned down to 8.75 degrees with around 110-115 mpg club head speed. Was debating on trying Stealth. What's your swing speed and delivery look like?
I got fit for my Stealth Plus. I’m loving it. Chopping the shaft down to 45 inches. I feel super confident with it.
I went and tested some of the new stuff and walked away with the same amount of money in my pocket as when I walked in. My old M4 set at 8 degrees was beating all the new stuff when you factor in distance and forgiveness. Which is funny because I always felt like the M4 was a little too punishing with off centered hits but according to the monitor the M4 still apparently is my club.
Sticking with my Cobra Radspeed this year. Although, I feel like that LTD might be a bit better for me as its face is a bit more forgiving. I just cant get behind its colors. I like a flashy driver to pump me up for the tee box, with some boring classic irons and wedges.
I recently got fitted, and switched from the SLDR to the Stealth. With the same swing speed (108-112), i gained 22 yards carry. I was able to hit a draw and fade, without the weight transfer needed with the SLDR. I'm a big fan, and really like the Stealth.
I tested the Stealth, Rogue ST and LTDx and went with the Stealth. However I spent 2 fitting sessions trying the different drivers and the thing that made the difference is the shaft. I tried three different shafts and the Mitsubishi Kai’li felt significantly better. My takeaway is making sure you have a really good fitter who can advise on this.
the Kai"li shaft is incredibly good, i actually switched from a ventus black to the Kai"Li
Bang on commentary. I had the exact same experience with the SIM2 driver - amazing speed and distance on the simulator. But on the course I couldn’t hit the fairway! I went with the G425 Max and couldn’t be happier.
I had an M3 driver and loved it because it was a great balance of distance and forgiveness for me. Was looking at upgrading this year and my top 3 drivers was the Stealth, TSi2 and G425 with the expectation that I’d walk out with another TaylorMade club in the bag, but ultimately left with the Ping as it was the best performing overall (still need to get used to the sound though)
I’ve got the 440cc M3. Will never upgrade the head, only the shaft
I tried it and I like it - but I ended up going with the Ping G425 LST over the stealth. I found the Ping to be more consistent even on miss hits
Similar here, I currently play a Radspeed but got fitted for a Rogue ST Triple Diamond. The Stealth feels less forgiving than that sometimes. I could still use the Stealth well, but I prefered the Rouge.
You should’ve tried the Sim2 Max as well, it’s much better than the Stealth because it doesn’t have a gimmick carbon face that loses distance and forgiveness.
@@sands201 I tried it originally because I had Taylor made drivers since the original burner bubble, but didn't like it and the numbers weren't any better than the r580 that I had at the time
Just got the Stealth Plus with an unexpected work bonus plus some extra cash from selling old stuff. Saw some decent numbers at the golf store and wasn't blocking everything right with it like I did everytime I tried the Sim and Sim 2. Got it out on the range today and it was pretty forgiving and felt pretty good. Love how the head looks at set up. Distance seemed decent according to my sc300i, but it was pretty chilly today so and I think there is more to be had in warmer conditions.
Funny enough I just sold my G425. It was definitely a straight shooter but was lacking in distance compared to a original F9 I had picked up to put in my vacation set I leave at my parents. The F9 wasn't as forgiving, but still pretty forgiving enough for me to want to chase extra yards with it. Now the Stealth Plus will fill that role and the F9 will be going in to the vacation set!
I’ll start by saying I’ve had either a Ping or TM driver in my bag for the past 20 years. I recently hit the Stealth and HATED it! When I got to hit the new Rouge Max LS it was amazing, and all I have to say is WOW! The sound alone blows the TM out of the water, but also add in the feel and results it’s a no brainer! I want to go back and give the Cobra a try too.
It’s an amazing driver. I’ve gained more ball speed as well as I found more stability on miss hits. Working at a golf shop it’s been great for most players as well. Only problem is it seems to be a bit fade bias which for most people is a negative. Where the callaway you can make it sit so closed that it will be good for the market
I went through fitting process, and I wanted the Callaway Rogue, even preferred it on looks, but going through a full process the Stealth plus 9 degree with tensei orange stiff shaft was by far the best preforming. Couldn’t get going with the cobra at all. I think this year getting fit for a driver is a must, no point buying these drivers off the shelf as every swing is unique so if you want most out of a driver get a professional fitting
Agreed and ended with the ping g425 max in my case. Golftec gave me a lil discount on the fitting which is cool.
I'd also say to avoid going to the manufacturer fittings. My club had a taylormade event and the guy predictably was trying to get everyone into a stealth. It was probably my worst option.
Can't wait for my ping. FedEx better hurry up.
I would say getting fitted is smart if swing is developed and no changes are contemplated. For most mid to high handicappers, swing changes are the key to improvement. Getting fitted for where the swing will be instead of what it is now is the better approach that is not usually talked about.
I just picked up the stealth 3 days ago and its definitely an adjustment from my callaway rogue but I love the feel from the stealth and the distance is great too
I found that the stealth for me was very inconsistent due to coming off the face with far to little spin looked more like a knuckle ball but when I hit it with perfect spin it was longer than most new drives . But the rogue was far more manageable and consistent but not as long but not so short that I put it in my bag.
Stealth Plus is better for the spin
I have a Stealth Plus 9* Kai Li 60x... I have 117-120 swing speed. I feel like you need really high swing speed to get along with it. Toe strikes at that swing swing are a big issue and typically led to big snap hooks for me on other drivers... the Stealth at my swing has turned that miss into a small draw which is big for my game. There's a reason the tour guys are loving it... it's built for their swings.
I won a stiff shafted stealth plus driver (9 deg) that wasn’t fitted for me, and I love it. I am a 12 handicap and I feel the stealth plus is just the right weight for me to make a great connection with the ball. Just waiting for the plus fairway wood and hybrid (which I also won) to arrive now
Wow! Haha go snag a lotto ticket at this point
how did you win the clubs?
@@kameronerdman5870 Not sure where you are but in the UK there are competition websites where you can win loads of swag. 😁
got fitted today, Ping 425 max and LST, Calloway, and Stealth Plus. The Stealth was far and away the winner. LST was 2nd. I was expecting to spray the Stealth all over the place, but it was long, consistent and with the Mitsubishi shaft my fitter really dialed me in. I hope it isn't just a hitting bay club like you guys suggest in the blog.
love the content. keep up the excellent work.
I ve switched from cobra Radspeed 9° w/ Futjukura speeder evolution VII stiff shaft to a Stealth HD w/ Futjukura ventus red stiff and gained 20 yards or more in average . Didn't like it a first , but went well on the second round . Great power with forgiveness, even if you don't hit the center but not for the average or senior golfer with slow to mid swing speed .The association between the Stealth head and the ventus red fits perfectly my swing, as for the 3 Stealth fairway wood also with Ventus red.
I tried the Stealth a few weeks ago and none of the numbers compared to my Cobra Speedzone. Dispersion was wider, clubhead speed was 3-4 mph lower, etc. I tried the Callaway and it was at par with my Cobra but not enough to make the investment.
I'm low handicap and drive around 300 yards. I went to get fitted for a new driver this year, and didn't even know callaway and taylormade were coming out with new drivers this year. I tried the stealth but fit better with rogue st. Ended up with the epic max ls and saved a few hundred dollars. I love it and I love the way it looks and sounds. My 3 wood is a rogue st and love it too. My only taylormade is a hitoe 3 58 with 10 bounce raw...its a sweet wedge.
I just had a fitting and it was between Stealth and Ping and while the Stealth went about 5-10 yards further, they both were drawing nicely, the dispersion with the Ping was noticeably tighter. I'm a mid handicapper with a faster swing speed (110-115mph, 160-165mph ball speed) So I'm super excited excited this season. I was using the TM M4 with standard flex shaft, felt super whippy as my swing speed increased.
how did last season go? did you change your flex to stiff?
I picked up a Stealth Plus at the beginning of the year and it took me 10 swings to know it wasn't for me. Moved over to the Rogue LS and do not regret it at all. 8 handicap playing 25 years.
I just recently the new Stealth in 10.5 degrees and loved it. I am a 12 handicap, gained 20-25 yards and found that I was hitting it straight and even off center strikes were not far off the centre line of the simulator.
I have the standard stealth came from an old callaway FTiq was avging 212yds. First few swings was hitting 285. Obviously that hasn’t kept up but I’m avging 245 with this. Absolutely love it.
My experience after testing the stealth is that I find it very forgiving on miss hits. Something I've always struggled with, with TM drivers. it keeps ball speed and spin pretty solid on low and heel strikes.
I feel the same way on the forgiveness. I get less side spin on misses than I did with the SIM.
Caveat: I've only played 9 holes with my Stealth Plus and have not even had it on the range. (I won the driver in a charity raffle. Not in the habit of buying clubs I've never hit.) Took it to the course cold. I was very pleased with it. Loved the fact that I was getting some roll out on the drives even in wet conditions. My current / (previous) driver frequently plugs in soft fairways. I'm a 14 handicap and partially due to the drives, I shot a bit under my normal score.
With only 7 total swings on it, I'm very optimistic.
Agree 100%. When I caught it, the Stealth was loooooong. But the mishits were all over. Ended up getting fit for last year’s Callaway Epic Speed and I love it
I bought the stealth plus with the 70g X stiff shaft took me 2 weeks to get used to it, last week I got used to it and was hitting absolute straight bombs with it. Absolutely over the moon with it. Couldn’t use the Ping g425 at all even the max couldn’t keep it on the planet.
Agreed with everything you said. I went for a fitting and tested about 5-6 different drivers. Stealth would give me on average 20-30yard lower than the others. Ended up with Cobra LTDx.
I went from the M6 to Stealth Plus and love it so far. I've only played 1 round with it and a few sessions at the range.
post when you have more rounds......Im curious how it does as I made the same switch as you. I customized the driver so waiting a little longer to get mine. Love the 3Wood though....played today with it and its miles further than my old one.
I just got a fitting and I really wanted the stealth to be my favorite. I’ve loved all TM drivers for the last few years. However I ended up sticking with sim2 I really wanted to love the stealth, however I didn’t. It’s not a great driver imo
Hey Rick...I'm a high handicapper and struggled, more so than usual, with the Stealth. I felt it was unforgiving for a high handicapper like myself. I went with Mizuno JPX 921 irons and a Callaway Rogue D driver.
I went and tested it out- added 30-40 yards to my drive. My typical drive with my current driver is 250 yards. Hitting the stealth was 285-290. Now was it the driver or the fact that we tried different shafts and lofts to get the most out of my drive. New to golf and I’ve never been fitted- bought a set of used clubs last year. Probably should be fitted this year.
I got fitted into the HD version and gained average 30+ yards over my old driver. It felt great to hit and calmed down my misses to the right.
After watching your review, I went with the PXG 0211. Inexpensive, and hits the ball a mile!!!
I’m a high handicapper, and it is very forgiving
Same with me.Watched the review and ordered the PXG!
I bought the 0211 driver after buying a set of 0211 irons. At the price, both the irons and driver are fantastic value for money, good looking and very forgiving.
There are a lot of factors when deciding a driver: price, specifications, look at address, comfort with the swing, shaft options, etc... I also think that people don't technically need a new driver if they can fix their technique and delivery; doing that will take care of a good chunk of the issues. When buying a prospective new driver, getting properly fitted could also help with optimizing spin and dispersion while maximizing distance.
I got fit and was all over the place with it I was about 10 yards shorter than my SIM2. I really used the fitting to help me find a shaft. With an 8° head and the Velocore shaft it was inconsistent.
Went to get fit and tried the stealth plus. What I saw was it was faster in general compared to the other drivers I tested and it had an extra gear when I went after it hard that the others didn’t have. My biggest issue was I could find the middle often with it and personally didn’t like the feel.
I got fitted about a month ago and ended up with the cobra LTD LS. Tried the stealth and just as you guys mentioned in the video, it just didn’t feel quite right. My best hits with the stealth were a few yards farther than the cobra, but the dispersion and consistency with the cobra was noticeably better. It was a no brained for me.
I tried the stealth plus right when it came out. I have borderline long drive swing speed (125-128ish on the course, highest recorded is 145mph) and I look for a play driver that is calm, consistent and forgiving. As in I’m willing to sacrifice 5mph or 20yds if it means I never get high spinners. I was very impressed with stealth, I got a nice group, consistent low spin (rare for me) but down a few mph ballspeed. I almost bought it based off of my results but I’m going to give the carbon face a generation to mature. In the meantime I got a PXG 0811xt on sale and it’s been doing the trick almost as well.
I got fitted last year and tried the current best Cobra, Callaway and Taylor Made. I hit the TM a ton, when I hit it, but it was the least forgiving of the bunch. So, I went with the Callaway, which was almost as long and a heck of a lot more forgiving. May still apply to this year's clubs.
I play (and love) the Stealth. I’m a 5 handicapper with SwingSpeed 107-110 and ball speed 155-162. I have always struggled with too much spin - and the Stealth is WONDERFUL at dropping spin rate. I also find it VERY forgiving, but in a different way from some other drivers.
It took me some tinkering to learn about how to make the club work best FOR ME. Below is what I learned:
1) The sweet spot on the thing is lower in the face than other drivers. I’m used to drivers where you get the best results hitting it a little higher on the face than the visual indicators of the sweet spot. For me, high face hits on the Stealth launch wayyyy too high. I tee it just a little lower (using the visual indicators on the face) and it absolutely bombs. It is very forgiving on hits toward the toe and heel, but not so much high on the face.
2) It’s not a great driver (for me) for trying to work the ball with a big draw or cut. It really seems to perform best when I aim it straight and then just go after it. I’m wondering if people who struggle are people whose normal driver swings move the ball significantly right to left or left to right. The Stealth likes to be fed straight shots or tight fades or draws. I aim straight down the middle now and just let it go.
3). Hitting it with the stock shaft was okay, but I wasn’t sold until I hit it with the Fujikura Velocore Red. As soon as I tried it with that shaft, I was sold. Monster difference for me in feel and repeatability. That combination was magic. Expensive magic, but a monster improvement over any driver I’ve hit.
4). I dialed down the loft two notches on a 9 degree head - that got me the best launch conditions.
5) I picked up a litttttle ball speed from the club, but not much. But I picked up significant distance from two factors: a) better spin numbers; b) because it is a forgiving driver, I can go after it more and see really good results on toe and heel misses. That’s probably the biggest factor in distance gains.
So to summarize:
Tee it a little lower.
Aim it a little straighter.
And go after it.
I’m have about the same swing speed as you…. But I’m opposite of you in that I tend not to spin it enough (I tend to hit up on the ball and lean the shaft forward at impact. Leads to low launch and low spin). So stealth was way too low spin for me. I have a cobra rad speed which fits me so much better. I also struggled when I tested SIM/SIM 2.
Just goes to show that even though a club may be great for someone, it could be awful for someone else.
Moral of story: GET FIT!!
Interesting… I delivered very little side spin in my fitting which is maybe why it worked for me. Will definitely tee it a bit lower when I get it on the course and see what happens.
At 70 years young well I'm one of these guys I bought a PING 245 Max with senior shaft and I just LOVE IT !! Cheers from Canada East Coast .
I’m a 7 handicapper that went for a new driver fitting. Found the best for me was the TSI 2 that I have in the bag. But I couldn’t get on with the stealth at all!!
They aren’t playing into the club golfers bag. Interesting strategy
I went for a fitting and tried 4 different drivers, the stealth, the Calloway, the Ping and the Cobra. I was very surprised with the results, I also must say I am not a fan of the way the stealth looks and I really like the Calloway. The Ping was my worst club followed by the Cobra with the dispersion of the shots of them being terrible for me; I wasn’t bothered about distance as I was going from terrible clubs so anything would be an improvement. The thing that shocked me was yes the Calloway was good, but the stealth was head and shoulders better in dispersion. I have now had my stealth with the black stiff shaft for a month and only had one bad round with it (well in my ability I’m a 29 handicap player), it’s probably my best club I hit other than putter!
I was fitted about a month ago. Tried the T/M Stealth, and never hit a driver this good. Very forgiving, and was willing to put out the money to buy it. However, they told me to hold off until the rest of the manufacturers releases their drivers(Exception of Ping). Supposedly this year is going to be a great year for new drivers.
I work in a Golf store part time and do fittings and I would agree people come in for Stealth and leave with something else. I have tried it with many different shafts and I find it did not gain enough over my TSI 3. Yes I did git a few with more with a bit better ball speed ( 155 ) but was way more Army golf with it ( Left Right Left ) I see the same with customers
The stealth or stealth plus? You have to differentiate doesn’t sound like you have.. or know what you are talking about
@@keenanvanzile used both of them and I am looking at raw data. for my own swing and own use I did have a higher ball speed with Stealth I also was more wayward. Some people get along with the stealth some dont. dont be fooled by one or two good shots. Basically use what works and sometimes that I not what you ask for
I’ve hit TM drivers my whole life and have left after the SLDR. I have not found a TM driver since that has suited my game. Most recently have hit TS3 and am now hitting PXG 0811x G4 and love it. Stopped trying TM drivers after the SIM Max because they go far but spray it everywhere.
I’ve got the Stealth+ Driver and 3 wood. Both phenomenal. Both absolute rippers. Absolutely blown away by the Mizuno 2 iron Fly Hi aswell. Couldn’t be happier with the 250 yard+ clubs in my bag right now.
I'm a 15 handicap and it works just fine for me. I gained like 20 yards from my m4 basically because of dropping my spin like crazy. When I got fit last month it was between the stealth + and rogue max LS. What I got fit for honestly surprised me. I was used to my m4 d type at 10.5 lofted up to 11.25 but got fit for the stealth+ at 9. I thought it would be the regular stealth at 10.5 but it all comes down to getting your launch and spin right to maximize your distance. I really liked the Callaway but the taylormade gave me better numbers. In all honesty though, taylormade and Callaway are going to have a very good year.
The "launch monitor driver" is what I found also. I was set on a Stealth until I hit a few balls outside. I ended up with the Rogue ST Max LS.
Had a few fittings over the last few weeks. Play off 9 and have had the same driver in the bag for 18 years. Needed a new driver and really didn’t want the stealth in the bag as it’s a bit blingy. Tried the ping G425, Rogue ST, titleist TS 2 and the stealth was way better in terms of consistency. I really wanted to walk out with the rogue but the performance figures meant I chose the stealth plus. I’ll see if that translates to the course when it comes.
I tried a fitting for a sim2 and ended up with a Mizuno STG200. My numbers were so much better and I feel confident when I step into the tee box.
I went in last week with no preference and ended up with the Stealth Plus with Hzrudus RDX smoke black extra stiff. Also 3 wood and 5 wood. One round so far, can’t wait to get more time with the clubs.
Currently got a handicap index of 11.8, tried all the drivers this year and I've also found that I don't get on with either Stealth driver, tried it multiple times as well, ended up buying a Callaway Rogue st ls
Tour edge is worth a look. Was a bit shy to buy a club and try it but I bought the cbx119 3 wood and absolutely loved it. Comes off the face like a bullet. So I decided to buy the exs 220 driver. Worth a try everyone!
After doing some testing myself. I found that the face felt "separate" from the head. It felt like it was sitting away from head and made me feel uncomfortable. It was a good driver, but if you don't feel confident with it... It will get in your head.
I went for a club MOT at American Golf to see if my 913D2 was still working as well as it should for me. I was curious about the Stealth as I’d hit a few great drives with my friend’s SimMax. Hit some decent drives with my driver and then went to the Stealth Plus as my driver was getting too much spin. I was convinced I wouldn’t see enough of a difference to consider buying it but I was gaining 20yds and my ‘bad’ shots were going around the same as my good shots with the Titleist. It’s now in my bag and I’m hitting it pretty well. Need to get used to the dull sound off the face though!
I bought the stealth Two and wasn’t expecting much but I haven’t updated my driver in five years and it’s a learning curve with any new driver but after about a month I’m hitting more fairways than I ever have in my life. I read all the reviews and it’s supposed to be farther but actually seems to be less forgiving but in my case it’s the best driver I’ve ever had yet.
Hi Rick and Guy, this is a fun story about talking about the Stealth. I went for my first club fitting last week for the new 2022 lineup at my local Golftec. However I was limited to Taylormade, Ping, and Callaway. We started off with hitting Driver first, and to get a baseline I used my current gamer the Cobra f8 10.5 degree driver and found I was spinning it to much out on the course. So a LS model would probably benefit me more the a more forgiving model. So I tried all of the 3 companies LS drivers and ultimately settling with the Callaway Rouge ST Max LS driver. Ping G425 LST was a close second, and the Taylormade Stealth + was nowhere even close like the other 2. I was hitting it worse then my current gamer the Cobra F8 when I tested it for my fitting. The feel was off, it even spinner more then my cobra and went 10 yards less the cobra. However I did it one shot that carried the ball close to my desired distance that I wanted. The other 2 were just better forgiving all over the face and had more spring then the stealth+. Now waiting for my new Callaway Driver now, think it will be in the next month or 2 which I’m very stoked about.
I have always done well with TM drivers - I currently play the M5. I'm totally intrigued by the Stealth BUT I have found that whenever they make a big model change, and the carbon face is a huge one, the 2nd generation is always a Lot better after a year of feedback. I hit my M5 well so i can wait ...
The M5 was the best year ever in my opinion. Dual weights on the low spinning head with one center along the back to give some more forgiveness. Super hot and forgiving. This is where taylormade needs to go back too!
I haven’t had the chance to hit stealth yet, but did get to test the Callways last week. They are excellent drivers, however my TSi3 still beat it. I’d still argue the Titleist stuff is as good as anything out there.
Agreed. I've played Titleist for years and just can't seem to get away from it although I have tried I still come back. I tried the SIM 2 last year against my old 909 D3 and the numbers were almost identical. Hard to spend that much money for something that isn't that much better. Granted I may have been able to dial it in with a different shaft and loft options but If I can't literally blow away my old one what's the point
Titleist and Ping are probably the best brands for the demographics they teeter respectively (mid to low handicap for titleist and literally everybody with Ping)
TSi3 all day. Looks and sounds amazing and the quality control and maxed out speed are second to none. Titleist and Ping are the only all-titanium drivers left from the big names also, I think.
The TSi3 sounds and feels incredible, honestly I feel like the other brands have gone too gimmicky and are all about marketing.
I was gifted a TS3 and love it. I’ve been using Titleist for 20+ years driver wise. My last driver was a 975J to date myself and if you don’t know, look it up. Amazing Driver. Tiger and Phil won a lot of tournaments with the 975J.
I honestly believe its the twist face for me. Even right off the shelf, no fitting, in the bay you should be able to find the fairway and then a fitting to hone it in. The Sim2 was a hook machine for me and walked out with a 425 max.
Three months ago I was playing an M4 with an Atmos 5s shaft. Got fitted into a Synystr shaft by VA Composites, gained 10 mph ball speed. Upgraded to the Stealth head last week and absolutely LOVE it. It’s longer and faster than the M4, at least as forgiving if not more, and I feel like the look/sound/feel couldn’t be better. However, I also think the shaft is a real difference maker, as it’s meant to tighten dispersion but yeah, LOVE my Stealth, the ball jumps off the face like nothing I’ve ever played
Went into golf retailers intent on buying the stealth but with my regular swing speed meant I came out with the cobra , surprised me but the feel and data do not lie .
Went for fitting and tried most 21/22 drivers and left very happy with standard Stealth 10.5 in R flex 65g. Im a low 20s handicapper and found it suited my swing characteristics. I hated the pings g425s sound and looks at address.