I would love to see these reviews done with both you and a higher handicapper. You would show what the clubs CAN do but the higher handicapper would show what’s more likely to happen for those of us who are more likely to hit bad shots.
exactly! I don't know why these very low handicappers test these high handicap clubs .. it makes no sernse. They all do it too.. They should have a 15 to 20 handicapper with them . Rick used to do that a while back.
This makes no sense. You put a high/mid handicapper for tests you'll get inconsistent results shot to shot. One day the person will be hitting everything out the park the next duffing every other shot. High handicappers cant apply shot shape or spin. If you want to test what a new Toyota is capable of you put the stig behind the wheel and rag it. You don't put 75 year old Doreen behind the wheel to drive down to her community centre even tho we know that's what a Toyota is used for and by.
High handicapper here...20+, these are cheat sticks, I hit plenty of bad shots.... Yet these clubs are so forgiving and play so long.... I almost feel like I can actually play golf! Now only if I could stop 3 putting 😢. I have only been under a hundred once in the last ten years. Most of my Irons in the past really had poor separation in distance and if I hit a 160 yds with my five Iron I was pretty damn happy. I have hit several 5 iron shots with the stealth nearly 200 yards. They absolutely promote a draw, yes you can still slice now and then but overall it's difficult to do. Hit them soft and hit them long.
These irons are incredible. Just took them to the range after 8 years without playing golf. Such a solid feel and consistent. Gives you the confidence to really attack the ball
so would you say a modern set of clubs for money is better than a free set from 30 years ago? i always thought they are all more or less the same hitting sticks
I am in same boat , I have not been playing Golf for 10 years until last 6 months , my clubs are 15 to 20 years old, spoke with pro he said I need more updates clubs , but what ? I have been looking at stealth but don’t want to buy clubs then find out I can’t hit them ! So what to do I don’t know
This is how a true review is done. We don’t need the data out of the studio, we need real life experience. Well done Rick. Looking forward to the next review.
Idk, I had 15 year old Cleveland irons and got the sim max when they came out, went from mid 90s to almost back to back mid 80s round in the first three rounds played
@@contractkilla11 I’m finding myself in a similar situation. My TM super steels are 27ish years old at this point. I’ve never been a good iron player… But they worked for me. Unfortunately… I’m 27 years older too.🙄🤣 And the rifled stiff steel shafts aren’t working for my aging swing. So I’ll need a new set… But not sure I can afford a fitting AND a new set. But obviously I’m going to have to do something. I got my money’s worth out of those irons… It’s time to move on.🤷♂️😊👍
@@contractkilla11 I think that might be just a confidence thing. I know I usually play better the first few rounds with new clubs. Probably because it's new and you're excited and feeling good, but hey, who doesn't like new clubs
Wow, so glad I watched this and gave these clubs a chance. I was tempted to go with P790s, but just didn't feel my game was quite there yet and felt that I can still benefit from the forgiveness and distance of game improvement irons. I'm not yet at the point of trying to shape my irons, I just want straight, consistent flights. Just got my new Stealths (already had the Driver, added the 3W 3DHY 4-5h and 6i-P) and took them for a long range session. Huge improvement in distance and accuracy. Yes, they are strong lofted, but the launch and trajectory for me are very much in line with the flight and height I'd expect for the given club. I actually hit 2 pins at the range today, sounded like I rang a bell. I've never done that at the range this year in many sessions with my previous clubs (RBZ full set). Your videos have helped me so much this year. Started out looking to break 100 after not playing for 5 years and now I'm already breaking 90 a couple of months later. I do believe these clubs are going to help me to pretty quickly break 85, since I've finally solved a huge gapping issue I had at the upper end of my bag. Can't wait to see what I can do in the next few years with this set. (Also combined with MG3 wedges and Odyssey 2ball ten triple track putter). Highly recommend you check out and review the new Stealth UDI and DHY driving irons/hybrids. The DHY is a very forgiving rocket for me. Just short of my 3W distance but deadly straight and accurate with a low stinger ball flight. Thanks Rick for all your help!
Thanks Rick, I’m 74 and still play with my 1973 Ben Hogan Apex irons, starburst on the back. The 5 iron is 30 degrees and the wedge, equalizer, is 51 degrees.. How times have changed!, Last year I was given a set of Macgregor M85i irons. Love them, now if you could recommend a driver it would be a great start to the new year!
These irons looks awesome! I felt that Taylormade took a wrong step in terms of looks for the SIM2 from the og SIM. They've definitely corrected that with the Stealth! I would love to see a vid of you testing them against previous models in the same category like the SIM and SIM2. Most of the time the year-on-year change is almost negligible in this category IMO. So if you could get the SIM2 or SIM for half the price it would be a much better deal.
Imo I bought the sim2 max irons few months ago and absolutely love them and they way they look. Have been looking at the sim2 driver but the stealth is so nice lool would be upgrading from my ping g15
I love the sim2 irons and bag them right now but the stealth irons just look way better to me. from what I have seen the stealths are way low spin compared to the sim irons
Good to see you back Rick!!! Where have you been man!! £850 is way too expensive in my opinion.... game improvement clubs should be cheaper to encourage more people to the game.
I'm still at the skill level where I have to be concerned about the risk of accidentally getting a perfect hit and sending the ball way too far. but that's also a steep price to pay.
Get some lessons, buy some used mega cavity back irons from a 5-10 years ago. These are for old guys who got money to burn, but don't want to work on their game.
@@AB-nv7bz right now, I'd be happy getting to play every year. 2019 I got to play 5 times, including Saint Andrews. I've had the clubs out once, since. think the best use for my money right now would be range tokens and green fees; though a lesson or two couldn't hurt. I've learned a lot from Rick's videos though I haven't had a chance to put any of it into practice.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes that all sounds like a much better use of your money. Honestly if you really want a game improvement set get the cleveland launcher hb turbo irons. Basically its hybrids for every iron. Terrible looks and no versatility, but for people shopping this segment they are going to beat anything else.
@@AB-nv7bz like I said, the biggest improvement I'm looking for right now is time on the course. after I get that a little higher, then I might start thinking more seriously about bringing my handicap down.
Just been to fitting for irons and was alignned with Cobra, Srixon and Stealth TM. I just felt more confident and empowered when I had the Stealth In hand. To me, the price is fair at 850, because it is an investment In my hobby and myself for maybe 8-15 years. I dont intend to throw them out after one season. Big recommendation to try fitting for
Good to have you back Rick! I’ve just bought a set of Wilson D9’s, with very similar strong lofts. Played for the first time yesterday and already feel like I need more lofted wedges in the bag for more control. But needed distance on the irons so I’m happy with them!
I got the same irons last May. Got the gap wedge and then I’ve got 3 other wedges and it’s made a difference. Very nice clubs to hit without a lot of effort.
Golf clubs have always been expensive for the club golfer, there is zero thought by the manufacturer towards us . They are only interested at the professional end of the spectrum... But it's always nice to be carrying a new set of clubs...
I've had the D7s for a couple of years. Quality clubs but had to get three specialist wedges as can't chip for toffee with them. Got three Wilson staff model wedges and love em!
Bought these irons about 8 months ago. My wife lets me play everyother weekend. My avarage for a first time golfer is around 100 to 110. Im 6' 245 , like to think some what athletic. These babys are awesome. Very forgiving. They do luanch very high with low spin. Fun to play and do recamend. They are expensive but perfect for the 2 to 3 round amonth guy . Everyonce in awhile when hit flush does has some extra juice coming off the face. Be advised. Very high trajectory.
For me being a very high handicapper, I can't justify spending the money on these clubs. For what they are and what they do, I dont think I can say they are too expensively priced overall. Just too expensive for me who just isn't good enough for that price! Great review Rick!
Looks like a combo of M1 with M2, and also M3 and M4. Those clubs were very forgiving, however I did have alot of Hot shots. Where I would fly the green by 10 yards. Also, punching out from under trees or hazards the ball absolutely flies. It was hard to control distance with the M series clubs when punching out. I am a P790 fan now. If you look at the sole of these new irons and compare them to the M series you will understand what I mean. Like they meshed them together. They were great clubs, but I wanted more control to work the ball.
Just completed my once per decade bag upgrade. I selected the P790s and Stealth woods (can’t wait to receive the woods). Upgrading from R11 irons and original Burner woods.
I just got a full bag fitting today and I went with the Stealth irons. The overall feel, forgiveness, and distance was great. I did notice the slight hook Rick mentioned, and I am a bit concerned about that as I tend to hook regardless, but it didn't seem too bad. The stronger lofts seem like an issue around the green, but hopefully my wedges can do the job there. Final thought: these clubs are beautiful. They barely look like game improvement irons. Looks aren't that important to me, but it's a nice bonus.
I bought my M6 irons with my M6 driver. Even though I have moved on from my driver I still have my irons and love them. Not all matching sets are bad. But I would love to try out the stealth line
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The game improvement irons are so similar to each other. No great technology improvements so would probably advise staying away from them, especially with the price
I decided to watch this video at 1.5x faster playback speed as I was in a hurry, very amusing watching Rick jabber away like he's all excited and buzzing with loads of energy. Speedy review. My only criticism of TM clubs is they change them pretty much every year with a minor facelift but ultimately they are the same irons. As we saw on some of the video's you did back in the summer Rick when you bought some old second hand clubs you smashed it which just reinforces the point it's not the clubs it's the player, whilst it's not a good idea to give a blade iron to a beginner it's true to say if you are a good golfer you'll be able to hit pretty much any iron well. What's the best set of irons? the ones you like playing with the most.
I’ve just bought a set of P790s and I’m looking forward to them coming in. Went with the full set from 4 iron all the way down to the gap wedge, since gap wedge is still mostly used as a full swing club. I don’t usually hit sand wedge or lob wedge full swing, and those are the clubs I use most for chips. I hope the irons still do okay on bump and run shots though. I want that touch and feel.
As a 25 handicapper, I was fitted for these Taylormade Stealth's yesterday, Rick. I do have a slight natural fade with my previous Cobra F Max Airspeed irons. I have never hit as straight as I did yesterday since 1985 in the blades era, I am 64 now. You are right about the wedges. They come off a bit quick, as Sophie Walker pointed out. She is suggesting an in-between wedge to compensate, a gap wedge etc. Thanks for this video.
@@Mobev1 You're a total knob. Don't tell people garbage like that. Most golfers are lousy at the game. A very small minority of players are any good. This game is so much more than just what you score. Let them be.
@@Traplordsosa better to just not keep score and maybe count pars. My club will not let you play until after 2 if your not at least a 5 until after 2 and then you have to be no more than 12 over. I play at club campestre llano grande en rio negro
@@Traplordsosa it is. But is safe and we don’t have a guys hitting into each other. Rolling up on a group teeing off, everyone has nice looking wives. It really is better to separate the low from the high IQ after trying it for 6 years
Great video and thorough review. Thinking seriously about upgrading to these from my RSI1s. One thing reviewers don't address especially with game improvement irons is can you still work the ball. As an 18, I need lots of help with the mishits but played long enough and have a modicum of skill so that I play (try to) some significant draws/fades around trees/obstacles/doglegs. On the par three I kept muttering for you to try to fade that in, especially as the clubs seemed to have a draw bias. The ultimate question for me on them is, can the mid-high handicapper work the ball with these clubs?
For you, yes. Absolutely. You're still at the "swing, hit and pray" stage of play. You don't know where your shot is going to end up once you "lose" the ball on your upswing and downswing because your head & club face are all over the place.
Went for a fitting last week for new irons and tried the Stealths, G425s, T300s, Rogue ST Pro, and 921s. I really wanted to buy the pings originally, but for me personally the Stealths and the T300s were the best for my swing. I ended up walking away with the stealths (just slightly preferred the feel), and a couple of Vokey SM9s. Just waiting for the arrival now!
Thank you for this video, I am 77 and an 11 handicap from 6,000 yards and a long time TM customer. I bought the original SIM irons when they first came out and played them for a year. Didn't like the feel and a friend suggested I try PXG 0311 P irons with a graphite shaft. After a year with them a fitter at Club Champion said a graphite shaft was too light and affecting my length. Back to TM, I read everything I could about the Stealth irons and am about to buy a set directly from TM, but not sure if I can get fitted somewhere and then order them online. Like someone else, I think it would be helpful to test these clubs with both you and a moderate handicap golfer to let us see how someone not as good as you are hits the clubs you are testing.
There have been very few developments in irons since Karsten changed it all with the Ping Eye 2. The Hogan Edge (perimeter-weighted forged iron), mullti-metal clubheads, graphite shafts, and that's about it. (Multi-metal heads allow manufacturers to move the CG so they can take off loft and still generate playable launch angles.) That's about it. But wait, there's one more.... Single-length irons. I can't understand why they haven't taken off, especially with amateur golfers. (Professionals and top amateurs want to play what they've always played.) Single-length are so easy to learn, so easy to hit, and have incredible advantages. I think the main problem is that pros aren't going to switch to them. The one pro that plays them--BDC--played them long before he came onto the national scene. In fact, he's responsible for two of the three serious single-length brands out there. Edel was the company that made his first set. When he turned pro, he signed with Cobra, who came out with a single-length set (and many variations and updates since). The other is Wishon, which I've been playing for more than 5 years. (First the Sterling, now the EQ1-NX.) Some RUclips golf stars reviewed the Sterlings, but they've been pretty silent on the newer EQ1-NX. That is frustrating. Since Rick is such a powerhouse on RUclips, I would hope he wouldn't leave this category behind, especially because of its advantages for average players. (I'm single-digit, but I'm not going to win any championships.)
GOT MY STEALTHS TODAY ordered them custom made 6 days ago and they arrived at my door today....so of coarse i had to go do a round of golf...OH MY I LOVE THEM straight and a club to a club and a half further than my PXG Gen 2 SGI irons...and nice soft feel....love love love them....cheers from Canada
I made a set last year in similar lofts I used Ping G425 4 5 and 6 irons and then I210s in 6-9 and the Vokey 50 54 and 60. I have figured that even a mid handi player can hit players irons in the higher range and it has helped massively. Controls the gaps well but offers massive forgiveness in the low end. The way they offer clubs these days you can buy single irons or custom sets and taking advantage of it has been a winner. THANKS FOR THE IDEA RICK and these would be fine irons for those harder to hit numbers too
Love the new irons. Thanks for the review. I'm still playing with a set of burner irons and if I strike my 7 iron perfectly I do get it as close to my 5 iron. And you just explained why brilliant
Dear Rick, In regards to your comments about the Stealth irons feel, I have a hopefully relevant short story. I had a set of TM Sim Max irons from a couple of years ago that I had to sell for various reasons primarily an improper fitting. Bought a set of Mizuno JPX 921 HM irons and I noticed a significant improvement in feel despite switching to graphite from steel shafts without any sacrifice in forgiveness or performance. The lofts aren’t the same but are very similar. Would love to see a video on the feel and performance of those irons compared to others in the category for a Pro like yourself. That’s it, love the channel, thanks for all that you do.
I've just had a fitting with these and other irons inc the Wilson D9 forged, TM 770, Callaway Rogue st and Ping 425 against my old M3 irons with xp100 shafts. With the Stealth irons and recoil dart shafts my average total distance went up from 138 to 160yds on Trackman. It's difficukt to look past those numbers.
I've just bought a set, I would on average have been 150-155 with my 7i old Callaway X20's. I was hitting 168-174 on Trackman with the 7i Stealth stiff shaft. Love them already!
@@Karl_with_a_K I'm jealous! I'm still waiting to find out when I can get my hands on them. They're 2 degrees stronger than my M3 irons but at my level (currently 11.8) I need all the help I can get as golf's difficult enough as it is without giving distance away
Completely agree with you Rick. I think the Taylormade R7 TP was the last time they had a great iron with matching driver. I had them and loved them but hated the driver.... cant really remember why. These Stealth irons wont suit me but I am loving my P790 2021 version... handicap dropped 3 shots and confidence is high. Thanks for your work! Cheers... Peter
You are spot on about the occasional flyer. When I pure one, it goes much farther than expected. It has bitten me on par 3's occasionally (but rarely). No problem though as I rarely pure it LOL. Mostly, they are consistent and I really, really like them. Cost me an arm and a leg to buy them after a custom fitting, but they were my retirement present to myself.
This seems like the first season the driver irons for a few brands actually look good and maybe the Rouge ones will last past this year. These irons are definitely less is more looks wise
I’m back and forth in the price. In the US this is nearly $1100 which I may as well go get a “non-beginner” set custom for for a couple hundred more dollars. I do agree though, they look great and performance seems great all things considered. Great video, Rick!
That price point is eye watering for “improvement irons”. Pretty sure there’s going to be price creep by all companies cashing in on the increased uptake of new golfers!
High-handicapper who had a fitting this morning. Tried Cobra Ltdx, Ping G425 then these Taylormade Stealth irons. The Cobra and Ping were pretty similar in terms of numbers and performance, with the Ping just edging the Cobra in terms of feel. The Stealth irons were just ridiculous in comparison. I was getting higher ball speeds, higher spin, and better accuracy by some margin. The average carry was 25yds longer for the Stealth, the longest I hit 161yds in total (7i). These also felt the best of the three irons to handle and to hit. Now I just have to wait for them to be built and delivered before I can see how much better I'm hitting.
Hey Tomas, I just got fitted today for my new irons and was hitting this club today … loved it! Where did you end up purchasing yours? New or pre owned, and for how much?? Have a blessed weekend partner!
I used to get the “hot shot” all the time with my old irons and then switch to a Mizuno JPX tour set. Iron performance improved vastly just by eliminating that shot. I’ve always been one that hit a lot of greens but my proximity to the hole was terrible with the more forgiving irons
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In about 1980 I bought Taylormade Tour Preferred blade irons and they were $400 US in today's money that would be $1,349.26 US. So the Stealth irons are less expensive at about $1000 US. Good value for what you get.
Thanks for a great video. I went to the local golf shop after watching this, and a couple of other reviews. After trying several different iron brands and shaft combinations I ended up choosing the TaylorMade Stealth with Graphite Shaft/Sr. Flex. During the fitting I just kept coming back to these clubs. They felt great, were incredibly accurate, and the distance was awesome. I consistently hit the 7 iron between 145-150 yds. with an average deviation from center line of about 14ft. The other clubs I tried did not even come close, or at least not for me. I ordered the 6-PW, AW, SW with 1/2" shortened and 2up on lie angle. I can't wait for them to get here after the April 1 ship date. Thanks again for such a detailed review and I will be sure to subscribe!
Can agree with you on two things there. The chipping around the green. I have a set of M2s 4i to SW. My gap wedge and lob wedge are Calloway Jaws. The 50 jaws is so much easier to hit around the green than the 54 SW or the 45.5 PW. And then with the balls coming out absolutely hot, I normally hit the 6i 180 185. But there is the potential to absolutely crush one with the powerful loft and Pingy cavity back 200. Which is an absolute killer into any green, out of bounds behind it or not
These Stealth irons look very much like the Rocketbladez of 2013, except of course for a little bit of technology and the lofts which are now stronger e.g. 7 iron now 28 deg compared to 2013's 30.5 and so on throughout the set. Of course I am going to hit the new ones further. I am now hitting effectively a 6 1/2 iron not a 7 iron of 2013. Rick, how about putting these two sets to a comparison test: 2022 v 2013? It would be very interesting and I would love to see the results and your thoughts.
Great video Rick. Very impartial and honest as always. I think the price of them is to expensive, I think if every big brand wants to compete lower the price, for a set of irons I would pay 500.00 the same as a driver! Because it will get people buying them and they would more affordable.
I think there's been a significant price increase from the SIM2 to the Stealth irons. They're too expensive for what they are, much better options out there.
Favorite time of the year to watch Rick! I'm glad they are good but no, I won't be buying them. I'm frustrated with mostly with companies making a 5 iron with the loft of a 3 iron. I don't want to continually keep adding a wedge to my bag to make up the difference in gapping. I am interested in the P790's though because they are almost identical in loft to my current clubs so here's my question Rick. If you had to pick a set for the bag, would you go with the 790's or the Stealth?
I work at a dicks sporting goods and I’ve gotten to try all the new clubs early and taylormade has really outdone themselves. The driver sounds fantastic, and the irons are amazing. Don’t sleep on the Cleveland wedges either they’re fantastic
Frankly for my play, I would have gladly taken any of those finesse shots at the green. I can putt but my short game is ugly bordering on brutal. My bias is generally open or right of the line so these clubs could actually help me straighten that out some. Seems like a decent match until I hit that price: 850GBP is $1500+ CAD when taxes are included. For that I expect Taylormade to value add these irons with an obsequious bag monkey raised with the only desire to caddy and maintain clubs, along with the first year's supply of monkey rations.
@@ducckman Right now I have an ancient set of Power Built Fuzzy Zoeller clubs. The driver broke some years ago so I replaced it with a Spalding Titanium that I picked up at a liquidation store for $65 bucks. These clubs have been used and abused way past their best buy date and it's time to replace them and get back in the game.
Great video. I'm hitting Rogue X's and I see exactly what Rick is talking about. I gained 20 yards with stronger lofts and I'm struggling with the chipping
I love how they claim “15 yards further than any other clubs in market!” And in reality, they just bend a pitching wedge down to an 8 irons loft. Haha.
Another great review Rick. Real-world testing and honest commentary. Not worth that price though. These modern string lofted clubs all leave a big gap at both ends... need a bunch of extra wedges, and at top end FWs and Hybrids between Diver and 5i Maybe a good idea for a manufacturer would be sell a set of 5 -9 or 4 -9, and let purchaser buy wedges of their choice.
These are definitely the best looking clubs out of the 3 major brands 2022 models. I’m getting fitted next month and I’m excited to be able to try all 3. Titleist, Callaway, and Taylor Made.
My key to making routine chip shots work well with strong lofted short iron is to play the ball a little more forward than traditional. I also open the face of the club slightly. Good review, thanks.
I bought an outdated set of Macgregor Golden Bear Round Sole irons 3-9 + S for 22,50 EUR in a recycle shop this week. Best buy so far :) - but I'm just a beginner... I'm just hitting them with more precision than my previous Callaway X-16 (35 EUR, also outdated). I do believe that it's more important to take golf lessons than to focus on gear. Since I have started to take lessons, everything just improved. I"m a long way from being at Rick's level, but who knows where I might end up. Maybe in 10 year's time I will buy these Taylormades :)
2021 was the first year I started golfing and I bought the Sim 2 irons as a starter set. I really like how easy they were to launch and I got very good spin with them. Using a ProV1x, I can hold a ball into the green all the way down to about my 7 iron and then after that they just start to roll out 15+ feet. I started the season shooting a 130 score 🤣 and by the end I shot a personal best of 79 twice with dozens of mid 80 rounds. 3 eagles, 23 birdies and a bunch of the rest. My only gripe about them is that controlling draws and fades consistently is very hard. It’s hard to say I’m going to play a 10 yard draw or fade to this pin. Sometimes I would cook it and then had to go recover to get up and down. Before you say I’m lying, I played double rounds several times a week with over 60 rounds played in my first year ever golfing. I worked a lot on my swing and understanding of the game. Going to try and become a scratch golfer by 2023 seasons end
I game the rogue x irons and your points on the lack of touch around the greens and the occasional shots coming out waaayyy too hot are so valid! 7 thru 9 iron bump and runs are completely out of the question! I'd rather deloft my wedges hahaha
I was really interested in these irons at first, but I was also interested in how I'd hit them compared to blades and clubs with traditional lofts. Did GC Quad testing on 7 irons from the Stealth, some Callaway game improvement irons, P790s, and some Cobra King blades. The interesting part to me was that even with 5 or 6 degrees stronger loft sometimes, I wasn't actually longer with the Stealth clubs than the P790s. My longest clubs were the Cobra King blades and only by about 7 yards, meanwhile everything else I tested had the same distance as my 7 iron from 1994.
I bought mine 2 years ago and absolutely love them! the heads have a stronger loft but that works well for me- I am a 10 handicap and I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I just bought these irons. 5-AW. I spent $1,100 USD after getting them right sized. Pretty pricey, but my first real set of clubs. Prior I was using mismatched poorly sized dollar bin irons.
Good to have you back Rick regarding the price of the taylormade irons I love golf but those clubs are way to high a price for a pensioner but still happy playing with my old cheap set cheers
I can attest to this very problem as far as gapping. I bought the Tommy Armour 845 irons and they have strong lofts so I have to carry 5 wedges to compensate (PW, AW, 52, 56, and 60.) The pitching and approach wedges did come in the set however, but it's still a bit of an annoyance. However, from a loft perspective my 5i (lowest loft in iron set) and then 3 hybrid to 3w are gapped really well. So it also takes away some need to carry multiple long irons or woods/hybrids as well.
Rick, I agree that the new irons are impossible to fade consistently. I think they're engineering a slice out of them for the high amateurs. I love my 2016 M2 Tours but as a "drawer of the ball" I cannot fade these. I can push them with a fade swing, but they hardly slide to the right. I even increased the loft 2 degrees in every club.
Great review. I got the Stealth Irons set but I went for the Titleist Vokey SM9 for the PW and SW (46 and 56) because I want more control in that area. I need the distance mostly for 6 to 9 irons.
Please do a complete set comparison (Driver thru wedge) of the SIM 2 and the Stealth! Would love to see if the technology is worth the extra money! Love the content!
They look really nice. I wish club manufacturers would stop making them stronger lofts and saying the irons hit further, I can understand a 7i at 31 degrees but not at 28.5, that is 6i lofts and old 5i
"Ugly" is such a subjective concept. To create forgiveness, irons need to have a lot of perimeter weighting and thicker toplines, some of which can be seen at address. But some players like the look because it gives them confidence.
I switched from my first irons ping G20. Just started playing a year and a half ago. They were super light lofted and had no distance. Switched to Taylormade M6 irons. They are super hot off the face. I love them so far.
I've been using the G20's since 2012 and just ordered my Stealth irons 3 days ago. I'm super psyched about them! Hoping I didn't just waste my money lol
@@matts1414 I've played about 10 rounds with them now and they are definitely an improvement over my old set. Even a toe shot goes long and straight. I love them. Got fitted at Dick's sporting goods for mine.
Picked up a 4-A set of these 2 weeks ago. Loving them so far. Still get 200+ yards from the 5 iron even with a not so great strike. Only thing i will say is if youre ordering from Taylormade, the stock grips kinda feel like youre holding a pencil. Planning to get some midsize grips soon.
As a high handicapper using GI irons, I disagree with your concerns about the short game. 7 irons for £850 is perfect to get the 5i to AW@49* loft. Add that to the Kirkland Wedges from CostCo for £150, and that’s 52/56/60 taken care of. Just practice chip and runs with a 52 to get that control. And although the 49* & 52* are fairly close, as the wedges aren’t “forgiving” that increases the gapping between those. Perfect for those of us who need help getting distance until we’re around the green.
Just saw this video. I bought the new Stealth clubs, 4-PW, in February and they should be delivered tomorrow. Hitting 22 yards further on my 7 iron. Can not wait to get on the course with these!
Love your videos Rick. I’m an average golfer playing a set of TaylorMade R7s and I’m finally in the market for a new set. I’d love to see you compare the feel, forgiveness and numbers of the R7 and Stealth irons so I’ll know what to expect moving up to the Stealth irons with so many years of technology changes and the vast difference in loft between them.
Making comments as the video progresses. Got to admit, you hit the first shot where you were aimed, so it was a good start. Price, ehh, In 2021 purchased 5-gw Cleveland Launcher hb turbo irons ( mint ) for $750.00 very happy with them. Test two seven iron to a right pin, for decades I had to aim 5 yards right of the green to get at a right pin, just saying. Final review I agree they look like great irons, and more wedges will be needed. Extra final review, at my age the Hybrid irons are what gets me back in the game, hitting them higher and getting distance back. Good review Rick, thanks. PS Rick these Irons look just like my 2014 RocketBlades-HL Irons, which I thought were as good as any Iron I've ever played.
At almost $1500 Canadian, there is no way I would invest in these irons. I just received delivery of new PXG 0211’s at $95 per club for 6… that’s $570. They are strong lofted, but in my advancing age (67), I need distance and forgiveness. Testing has shown that to be the case and am looking forward to the snow melting to get them on the course.
Those look great. I just got fitted for a set of pxg 0211s and have been blown away. Guy at the range guessed I was a 5-6 handicap..I’m a 15 then again I haven’t played a round with them. Would love to see you review more pxg clubs especially as they have plenty of affordable options. I got mine at 77 an iron including the fitting
Thanks again Rick. Honest and impartial. Will be getting new irons this year and will watch your other brand reviews to help me make an informed choice. As you mention the importance of some quality wedge options in the bag needs to be considered with strong lofted irons such as these.
I agree that a "hard, bigger" head on an iron might impact touch but loft is loft. 44 deg is 44 degrees no matter what is stamped on the bottom so with a little practice, you adapt. Same goes for distances that if you went from traditional loft to strong loft, you simply adjust what distance each club is so with practice not an issue. I have played Cobra for several years so 30 deg is the weakest loft 7i I have played and just adapted. Now I am down to 27.5 and again adapted. I also realize that in "bump/run" type shots my 9i is closer to a standard 8i and play that instead of simply pulling out 8i because of what is on the bottom. Overall, these irons do look and sound impressive for a forgiveness model.
I would love to see these reviews done with both you and a higher handicapper. You would show what the clubs CAN do but the higher handicapper would show what’s more likely to happen for those of us who are more likely to hit bad shots.
exactly! I don't know why these very low handicappers test these high handicap clubs .. it makes no sernse. They all do it too.. They should have a 15 to 20 handicapper with them . Rick used to do that a while back.
This makes no sense. You put a high/mid handicapper for tests you'll get inconsistent results shot to shot. One day the person will be hitting everything out the park the next duffing every other shot. High handicappers cant apply shot shape or spin. If you want to test what a new Toyota is capable of you put the stig behind the wheel and rag it. You don't put 75 year old Doreen behind the wheel to drive down to her community centre even tho we know that's what a Toyota is used for and by.
High handicapper here...20+, these are cheat sticks, I hit plenty of bad shots.... Yet these clubs are so forgiving and play so long.... I almost feel like I can actually play golf! Now only if I could stop 3 putting 😢. I have only been under a hundred once in the last ten years. Most of my Irons in the past really had poor separation in distance and if I hit a 160 yds with my five Iron I was pretty damn happy. I have hit several 5 iron shots with the stealth nearly 200 yards. They absolutely promote a draw, yes you can still slice now and then but overall it's difficult to do. Hit them soft and hit them long.
What happened to his mid handicap tester, Rob Potter?
Would love to see a side by side comparison between the Stealth Irons and the P790s
These irons are incredible. Just took them to the range after 8 years without playing golf. Such a solid feel and consistent. Gives you the confidence to really attack the ball
so would you say a modern set of clubs for money is better than a free set from 30 years ago? i always thought they are all more or less the same hitting sticks
I am in same boat , I have not been playing Golf for 10 years until last 6 months , my clubs are 15 to 20 years old, spoke with pro he said I need more updates clubs , but what ? I have been looking at stealth but don’t want to buy clubs then find out I can’t hit them ! So what to do I don’t know
This is how a true review is done. We don’t need the data out of the studio, we need real life experience. Well done Rick. Looking forward to the next review.
Forreal
I can vouch for the “no club can help a bad swing”… 🙋🏻♂️
Idk, I had 15 year old Cleveland irons and got the sim max when they came out, went from mid 90s to almost back to back mid 80s round in the first three rounds played
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I’m finding myself in a similar situation.
My TM super steels are 27ish years old at this point.
I’ve never been a good iron player…
But they worked for me.
Unfortunately… I’m 27 years older too.🙄🤣
And the rifled stiff steel shafts aren’t working for my aging swing.
So I’ll need a new set…
But not sure I can afford a fitting AND a new set.
But obviously I’m going to have to do something.
I got my money’s worth out of those irons…
It’s time to move on.🤷♂️😊👍
Me too. I'm struggling with consistency in my swing and I'm everywhere with my Rogue X's
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@@contractkilla11 I think that might be just a confidence thing. I know I usually play better the first few rounds with new clubs. Probably because it's new and you're excited and feeling good, but hey, who doesn't like new clubs
Wow, so glad I watched this and gave these clubs a chance. I was tempted to go with P790s, but just didn't feel my game was quite there yet and felt that I can still benefit from the forgiveness and distance of game improvement irons. I'm not yet at the point of trying to shape my irons, I just want straight, consistent flights. Just got my new Stealths (already had the Driver, added the 3W 3DHY 4-5h and 6i-P) and took them for a long range session. Huge improvement in distance and accuracy. Yes, they are strong lofted, but the launch and trajectory for me are very much in line with the flight and height I'd expect for the given club. I actually hit 2 pins at the range today, sounded like I rang a bell. I've never done that at the range this year in many sessions with my previous clubs (RBZ full set).
Your videos have helped me so much this year. Started out looking to break 100 after not playing for 5 years and now I'm already breaking 90 a couple of months later. I do believe these clubs are going to help me to pretty quickly break 85, since I've finally solved a huge gapping issue I had at the upper end of my bag. Can't wait to see what I can do in the next few years with this set. (Also combined with MG3 wedges and Odyssey 2ball ten triple track putter).
Highly recommend you check out and review the new Stealth UDI and DHY driving irons/hybrids. The DHY is a very forgiving rocket for me. Just short of my 3W distance but deadly straight and accurate with a low stinger ball flight.
Thanks Rick for all your help!
Just got the 2iron. what a club.
I love your reviews. Never arrogant, honest, straight forward, and not interested in placating companies for endorsements. Bravo from Illinois
I’m just happy there’s a new video from the main man himself 🙌🏻
there's a new peter finch video?
@@sickdawg22 why are you even here ?
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Great review Rick. I like the fact that you give good honest feedback not just what the manufacturer wants to hear.
Thanks Rick, I’m 74 and still play with my 1973 Ben Hogan Apex irons, starburst on the back. The 5 iron is 30 degrees and the wedge, equalizer, is 51 degrees.. How times have changed!, Last year I was given a set of Macgregor M85i irons. Love them, now if you could recommend a driver it would be a great start to the new year!
I now play the Cobra F8 superlite, bought for cheap money and is everything I looked for - effortless far and straight
Apex irons are so good. I got a set of MP-30s late last season but for most of last year I used a set of Apex 2s and thoroughly enjoyed them.
Taylor made sim 2 max
Got a set of Edges two years ago and they’re pretty nice. But PXG 0211 dc2s are in the bag now.
I play the Callaway mavrik driver and I love it. I don't get outdriven very often
These irons looks awesome! I felt that Taylormade took a wrong step in terms of looks for the SIM2 from the og SIM. They've definitely corrected that with the Stealth!
I would love to see a vid of you testing them against previous models in the same category like the SIM and SIM2. Most of the time the year-on-year change is almost negligible in this category IMO. So if you could get the SIM2 or SIM for half the price it would be a much better deal.
Imo I bought the sim2 max irons few months ago and absolutely love them and they way they look. Have been looking at the sim2 driver but the stealth is so nice lool would be upgrading from my ping g15
I love the sim2 irons and bag them right now but the stealth irons just look way better to me. from what I have seen the stealths are way low spin compared to the sim irons
The sim is just a m5 not much in it
I've gone from 19 handicap to 10 in the winter thanks to these and a new lob wedge. They're class and very forgiving
Good to see you back Rick!!! Where have you been man!!
£850 is way too expensive in my opinion.... game improvement clubs should be cheaper to encourage more people to the game.
I'm still at the skill level where I have to be concerned about the risk of accidentally getting a perfect hit and sending the ball way too far. but that's also a steep price to pay.
@C l a r a__🍒 Think we’re all wanting a different kind of hole in one here
Get some lessons, buy some used mega cavity back irons from a 5-10 years ago. These are for old guys who got money to burn, but don't want to work on their game.
@@AB-nv7bz right now, I'd be happy getting to play every year. 2019 I got to play 5 times, including Saint Andrews. I've had the clubs out once, since. think the best use for my money right now would be range tokens and green fees; though a lesson or two couldn't hurt. I've learned a lot from Rick's videos though I haven't had a chance to put any of it into practice.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes that all sounds like a much better use of your money. Honestly if you really want a game improvement set get the cleveland launcher hb turbo irons. Basically its hybrids for every iron. Terrible looks and no versatility, but for people shopping this segment they are going to beat anything else.
@@AB-nv7bz like I said, the biggest improvement I'm looking for right now is time on the course. after I get that a little higher, then I might start thinking more seriously about bringing my handicap down.
Just been to fitting for irons and was alignned with Cobra, Srixon and Stealth TM. I just felt more confident and empowered when I had the Stealth In hand. To me, the price is fair at 850, because it is an investment In my hobby and myself for maybe 8-15 years. I dont intend to throw them out after one season. Big recommendation to try fitting for
Good to have you back Rick! I’ve just bought a set of Wilson D9’s, with very similar strong lofts. Played for the first time yesterday and already feel like I need more lofted wedges in the bag for more control. But needed distance on the irons so I’m happy with them!
I got the same irons last May. Got the gap wedge and then I’ve got 3 other wedges and it’s made a difference. Very nice clubs to hit without a lot of effort.
@@mikebell8558 looking to add the gap wedge too as the loft gap between the PW and SW is too big without it. Glad to hear it’s made a difference!
Got the same set because of the price. Paid under £500 for 6 clubs new. Pricing of the 'top brands' is a joke.
Golf clubs have always been expensive for the club golfer, there is zero thought by the manufacturer towards us . They are only interested at the professional end of the spectrum... But it's always nice to be carrying a new set of clubs...
I've had the D7s for a couple of years. Quality clubs but had to get three specialist wedges as can't chip for toffee with them. Got three Wilson staff model wedges and love em!
Bought these irons about 8 months ago. My wife lets me play everyother weekend. My avarage for a first time golfer is around 100 to 110. Im 6' 245 , like to think some what athletic. These babys are awesome. Very forgiving. They do luanch very high with low spin. Fun to play and do recamend. They are expensive but perfect for the 2 to 3 round amonth guy . Everyonce in awhile when hit flush does has some extra juice coming off the face. Be advised. Very high trajectory.
Being 6ft+ did you need to get them 1" longer? Also looking at getting these.
Glad to see you hit more than 5 shots. 😂 Great review Rick.
I still can’t believe the idiots at “my golf spy” had the audacity and ignorance to assume that 😂😂😂
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Too soon
I have only started playing golf, and I find your videos so helpful for me. Thank you very much for all your passion and great work
For me being a very high handicapper, I can't justify spending the money on these clubs. For what they are and what they do, I dont think I can say they are too expensively priced overall. Just too expensive for me who just isn't good enough for that price! Great review Rick!
You should……i was off 20 and as soon as i got these went straight to 9 honestly i now shoot in the high 70s now
Looks like a combo of M1 with M2, and also M3 and M4. Those clubs were very forgiving, however I did have alot of Hot shots. Where I would fly the green by 10 yards. Also, punching out from under trees or hazards the ball absolutely flies. It was hard to control distance with the M series clubs when punching out. I am a P790 fan now. If you look at the sole of these new irons and compare them to the M series you will understand what I mean. Like they meshed them together. They were great clubs, but I wanted more control to work the ball.
Just completed my once per decade bag upgrade. I selected the P790s and Stealth woods (can’t wait to receive the woods). Upgrading from R11 irons and original Burner woods.
Nice upgrade! 🤙🏻
I just got a full bag fitting today and I went with the Stealth irons. The overall feel, forgiveness, and distance was great. I did notice the slight hook Rick mentioned, and I am a bit concerned about that as I tend to hook regardless, but it didn't seem too bad. The stronger lofts seem like an issue around the green, but hopefully my wedges can do the job there. Final thought: these clubs are beautiful. They barely look like game improvement irons. Looks aren't that important to me, but it's a nice bonus.
I bought my M6 irons with my M6 driver. Even though I have moved on from my driver I still have my irons and love them. Not all matching sets are bad. But I would love to try out the stealth line
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The game improvement irons are so similar to each other. No great technology improvements so would probably advise staying away from them, especially with the price
I decided to watch this video at 1.5x faster playback speed as I was in a hurry, very amusing watching Rick jabber away like he's all excited and buzzing with loads of energy. Speedy review. My only criticism of TM clubs is they change them pretty much every year with a minor facelift but ultimately they are the same irons. As we saw on some of the video's you did back in the summer Rick when you bought some old second hand clubs you smashed it which just reinforces the point it's not the clubs it's the player, whilst it's not a good idea to give a blade iron to a beginner it's true to say if you are a good golfer you'll be able to hit pretty much any iron well. What's the best set of irons? the ones you like playing with the most.
I’ve just bought a set of P790s and I’m looking forward to them coming in. Went with the full set from 4 iron all the way down to the gap wedge, since gap wedge is still mostly used as a full swing club. I don’t usually hit sand wedge or lob wedge full swing, and those are the clubs I use most for chips. I hope the irons still do okay on bump and run shots though. I want that touch and feel.
Have you used them yet?
As a 25 handicapper, I was fitted for these Taylormade Stealth's yesterday, Rick. I do have a slight natural fade with my previous Cobra F Max Airspeed irons. I have never hit as straight as I did yesterday since 1985 in the blades era, I am 64 now. You are right about the wedges. They come off a bit quick, as Sophie Walker pointed out. She is suggesting an in-between wedge to compensate, a gap wedge etc. Thanks for this video.
25 handicapper? Maybe you shouldn’t play golf. Definitely don’t keep score. I don’t even keep score but I’m probably a 10.
@@Mobev1 You're a total knob. Don't tell people garbage like that. Most golfers are lousy at the game. A very small minority of players are any good. This game is so much more than just what you score. Let them be.
@@Traplordsosa better to just not keep score and maybe count pars. My club will not let you play until after 2 if your not at least a 5 until after 2 and then you have to be no more than 12 over. I play at club campestre llano grande en rio negro
@@Mobev1 Sounds like a pretty ridiculous elitist club lol.
@@Traplordsosa it is. But is safe and we don’t have a guys hitting into each other. Rolling up on a group teeing off, everyone has nice looking wives. It really is better to separate the low from the high IQ after trying it for 6 years
Great video and thorough review. Thinking seriously about upgrading to these from my RSI1s. One thing reviewers don't address especially with game improvement irons is can you still work the ball. As an 18, I need lots of help with the mishits but played long enough and have a modicum of skill so that I play (try to) some significant draws/fades around trees/obstacles/doglegs. On the par three I kept muttering for you to try to fade that in, especially as the clubs seemed to have a draw bias. The ultimate question for me on them is, can the mid-high handicapper work the ball with these clubs?
For you, yes. Absolutely. You're still at the "swing, hit and pray" stage of play. You don't know where your shot is going to end up once you "lose" the ball on your upswing and downswing because your head & club face are all over the place.
Went for a fitting last week for new irons and tried the Stealths, G425s, T300s, Rogue ST Pro, and 921s.
I really wanted to buy the pings originally, but for me personally the Stealths and the T300s were the best for my swing. I ended up walking away with the stealths (just slightly preferred the feel), and a couple of Vokey SM9s. Just waiting for the arrival now!
For me it was Mizuno until I tried these!
Thank you for this video, I am 77 and an 11 handicap from 6,000 yards and a long time TM customer. I bought the original SIM irons when they first came out and played them for a year. Didn't like the feel and a friend suggested I try PXG 0311 P irons with a graphite shaft. After a year with them a fitter at Club Champion said a graphite shaft was too light and affecting my length. Back to TM, I read everything I could about the Stealth irons and am about to buy a set directly from TM, but not sure if I can get fitted somewhere and then order them online. Like someone else, I think it would be helpful to test these clubs with both you and a moderate handicap golfer to let us see how someone not as good as you are hits the clubs you are testing.
There have been very few developments in irons since Karsten changed it all with the Ping Eye 2. The Hogan Edge (perimeter-weighted forged iron), mullti-metal clubheads, graphite shafts, and that's about it. (Multi-metal heads allow manufacturers to move the CG so they can take off loft and still generate playable launch angles.) That's about it. But wait, there's one more....
Single-length irons. I can't understand why they haven't taken off, especially with amateur golfers. (Professionals and top amateurs want to play what they've always played.) Single-length are so easy to learn, so easy to hit, and have incredible advantages.
I think the main problem is that pros aren't going to switch to them. The one pro that plays them--BDC--played them long before he came onto the national scene. In fact, he's responsible for two of the three serious single-length brands out there. Edel was the company that made his first set. When he turned pro, he signed with Cobra, who came out with a single-length set (and many variations and updates since). The other is Wishon, which I've been playing for more than 5 years. (First the Sterling, now the EQ1-NX.)
Some RUclips golf stars reviewed the Sterlings, but they've been pretty silent on the newer EQ1-NX. That is frustrating. Since Rick is such a powerhouse on RUclips, I would hope he wouldn't leave this category behind, especially because of its advantages for average players. (I'm single-digit, but I'm not going to win any championships.)
GOT MY STEALTHS TODAY ordered them custom made 6 days ago and they arrived at my door today....so of coarse i had to go do a round of golf...OH MY I LOVE THEM straight and a club to a club and a half further than my PXG Gen 2 SGI irons...and nice soft feel....love love love them....cheers from Canada
I made a set last year in similar lofts I used Ping G425 4 5 and 6 irons and then I210s in 6-9 and the Vokey 50 54 and 60. I have figured that even a mid handi player can hit players irons in the higher range and it has helped massively. Controls the gaps well but offers massive forgiveness in the low end. The way they offer clubs these days you can buy single irons or custom sets and taking advantage of it has been a winner. THANKS FOR THE IDEA RICK and these would be fine irons for those harder to hit numbers too
Love the new irons. Thanks for the review. I'm still playing with a set of burner irons and if I strike my 7 iron perfectly I do get it as close to my 5 iron. And you just explained why brilliant
599$ US would be a great price for irons like this. If they were forged and offered custom shafts and grips, then you can justify a few bucks more
I bought them recently. Had them custom fitted at Carnoustie. 1 degree strong. Has made a big difference to my game. Very happy.
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Dear Rick, In regards to your comments about the Stealth irons feel, I have a hopefully relevant short story. I had a set of TM Sim Max irons from a couple of years ago that I had to sell for various reasons primarily an improper fitting. Bought a set of Mizuno JPX 921 HM irons and I noticed a significant improvement in feel despite switching to graphite from steel shafts without any sacrifice in forgiveness or performance. The lofts aren’t the same but are very similar. Would love to see a video on the feel and performance of those irons compared to others in the category for a Pro like yourself. That’s it, love the channel, thanks for all that you do.
I've just had a fitting with these and other irons inc the Wilson D9 forged, TM 770, Callaway Rogue st and Ping 425 against my old M3 irons with xp100 shafts. With the Stealth irons and recoil dart shafts my average total distance went up from 138 to 160yds on Trackman. It's difficukt to look past those numbers.
I've just bought a set, I would on average have been 150-155 with my 7i old Callaway X20's. I was hitting 168-174 on Trackman with the 7i Stealth stiff shaft. Love them already!
@@Karl_with_a_K I'm jealous! I'm still waiting to find out when I can get my hands on them. They're 2 degrees stronger than my M3 irons but at my level (currently 11.8) I need all the help I can get as golf's difficult enough as it is without giving distance away
Completely agree with you Rick. I think the Taylormade R7 TP was the last time they had a great iron with matching driver. I had them and loved them but hated the driver.... cant really remember why. These Stealth irons wont suit me but I am loving my P790 2021 version... handicap dropped 3 shots and confidence is high. Thanks for your work!
Cheers... Peter
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Great videos man! Keep up the work! You’ll be big
You are spot on about the occasional flyer. When I pure one, it goes much farther than expected. It has bitten me on par 3's occasionally (but rarely). No problem though as I rarely pure it LOL. Mostly, they are consistent and I really, really like them. Cost me an arm and a leg to buy them after a custom fitting, but they were my retirement present to myself.
This seems like the first season the driver irons for a few brands actually look good and maybe the Rouge ones will last past this year. These irons are definitely less is more looks wise
Agree, the high handicap clubs always look trash. These definitely aren’t.
The new rogues look disgustingly good 😍
@@neff6477 agree! Those ‘Pros’ 😍😍😍
I’m back and forth in the price. In the US this is nearly $1100 which I may as well go get a “non-beginner” set custom for for a couple hundred more dollars. I do agree though, they look great and performance seems great all things considered. Great video, Rick!
That price point is eye watering for “improvement irons”. Pretty sure there’s going to be price creep by all companies cashing in on the increased uptake of new golfers!
Price gouge the new golfers. sounds like a sure way to keep customers xD
So true, even the price of used clubs is way too high. None of them are worth as much as they’re charging
High-handicapper who had a fitting this morning. Tried Cobra Ltdx, Ping G425 then these Taylormade Stealth irons. The Cobra and Ping were pretty similar in terms of numbers and performance, with the Ping just edging the Cobra in terms of feel.
The Stealth irons were just ridiculous in comparison. I was getting higher ball speeds, higher spin, and better accuracy by some margin. The average carry was 25yds longer for the Stealth, the longest I hit 161yds in total (7i). These also felt the best of the three irons to handle and to hit.
Now I just have to wait for them to be built and delivered before I can see how much better I'm hitting.
Hey Tomas,
I just got fitted today for my new irons and was hitting this club today … loved it! Where did you end up purchasing yours? New or pre owned, and for how much?? Have a blessed weekend partner!
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Got them from the Scottsdale store. New and built to my optimum specs, well, from the swings I had.
I used to get the “hot shot” all the time with my old irons and then switch to a Mizuno JPX tour set. Iron performance improved vastly just by eliminating that shot. I’ve always been one that hit a lot of greens but my proximity to the hole was terrible with the more forgiving irons
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In about 1980 I bought Taylormade Tour Preferred blade irons and they were $400 US in today's money that would be $1,349.26 US. So the Stealth irons are less expensive at about $1000 US. Good value for what you get.
Thanks for a great video. I went to the local golf shop after watching this, and a couple of other reviews. After trying several different iron brands and shaft combinations I ended up choosing the TaylorMade Stealth with Graphite Shaft/Sr. Flex. During the fitting I just kept coming back to these clubs. They felt great, were incredibly accurate, and the distance was awesome. I consistently hit the 7 iron between 145-150 yds. with an average deviation from center line of about 14ft. The other clubs I tried did not even come close, or at least not for me. I ordered the 6-PW, AW, SW with 1/2" shortened and 2up on lie angle. I can't wait for them to get here after the April 1 ship date. Thanks again for such a detailed review and I will be sure to subscribe!
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Can agree with you on two things there.
The chipping around the green. I have a set of M2s 4i to SW. My gap wedge and lob wedge are Calloway Jaws. The 50 jaws is so much easier to hit around the green than the 54 SW or the 45.5 PW.
And then with the balls coming out absolutely hot, I normally hit the 6i 180 185. But there is the potential to absolutely crush one with the powerful loft and Pingy cavity back 200. Which is an absolute killer into any green, out of bounds behind it or not
These Stealth irons look very much like the Rocketbladez of 2013, except of course for a little bit of technology and the lofts which are now stronger e.g. 7 iron now 28 deg compared to 2013's 30.5 and so on throughout the set. Of course I am going to hit the new ones further. I am now hitting effectively a 6 1/2 iron not a 7 iron of 2013. Rick, how about putting these two sets to a comparison test: 2022 v 2013? It would be very interesting and I would love to see the results and your thoughts.
This is exactly what I think, especially the rbz tour
Great video Rick. Very impartial and honest as always. I think the price of them is to expensive, I think if every big brand wants to compete lower the price, for a set of irons I would pay 500.00 the same as a driver! Because it will get people buying them and they would more affordable.
I think there's been a significant price increase from the SIM2 to the Stealth irons. They're too expensive for what they are, much better options out there.
I totally agree. I always wait and grab used sets at half the price
What’s the better options for less money?
Favorite time of the year to watch Rick! I'm glad they are good but no, I won't be buying them. I'm frustrated with mostly with companies making a 5 iron with the loft of a 3 iron. I don't want to continually keep adding a wedge to my bag to make up the difference in gapping. I am interested in the P790's though because they are almost identical in loft to my current clubs so here's my question Rick. If you had to pick a set for the bag, would you go with the 790's or the Stealth?
I work at a dicks sporting goods and I’ve gotten to try all the new clubs early and taylormade has really outdone themselves. The driver sounds fantastic, and the irons are amazing. Don’t sleep on the Cleveland wedges either they’re fantastic
If I worked there I wouldn’t have enough money left to pay my bills each month lol 😂 seriously wish I could try all the clubs.
@@cgmac2931 currently my situation I work there and about to drop a lot of money on a new set lol
I like the length and detail of this review. I enjoy it when you show a bit more analysis/testing on video for us to watch.
Frankly for my play, I would have gladly taken any of those finesse shots at the green. I can putt but my short game is ugly bordering on brutal. My bias is generally open or right of the line so these clubs could actually help me straighten that out some. Seems like a decent match until I hit that price: 850GBP is $1500+ CAD when taxes are included. For that I expect Taylormade to value add these irons with an obsequious bag monkey raised with the only desire to caddy and maintain clubs, along with the first year's supply of monkey rations.
FELLOW CANUCK! What do you play with now?
@@ducckman Right now I have an ancient set of Power Built Fuzzy Zoeller clubs. The driver broke some years ago so I replaced it with a Spalding Titanium that I picked up at a liquidation store for $65 bucks. These clubs have been used and abused way past their best buy date and it's time to replace them and get back in the game.
Great video. I'm hitting Rogue X's and I see exactly what Rick is talking about. I gained 20 yards with stronger lofts and I'm struggling with the chipping
I love how they claim “15 yards further than any other clubs in market!”
And in reality, they just bend a pitching wedge down to an 8 irons loft. Haha.
Another great review Rick.
Real-world testing and honest commentary.
Not worth that price though.
These modern string lofted clubs all leave a big gap at both ends... need a bunch of extra wedges, and at top end FWs and Hybrids between Diver and 5i
Maybe a good idea for a manufacturer would be sell a set of 5 -9 or 4 -9, and let purchaser buy wedges of their choice.
Just tested at GolfTec today and I had Mizuno on the mind until I tried these and BOOM, I am going with the Stealth! Thanks for the great review
These are definitely the best looking clubs out of the 3 major brands 2022 models. I’m getting fitted next month and I’m excited to be able to try all 3. Titleist, Callaway, and Taylor Made.
My key to making routine chip shots work well with strong lofted short iron is to play the ball a little more forward than traditional. I also open the face of the club slightly. Good review, thanks.
I bought an outdated set of Macgregor Golden Bear Round Sole irons 3-9 + S for 22,50 EUR in a recycle shop this week. Best buy so far :) - but I'm just a beginner... I'm just hitting them with more precision than my previous Callaway X-16 (35 EUR, also outdated). I do believe that it's more important to take golf lessons than to focus on gear. Since I have started to take lessons, everything just improved. I"m a long way from being at Rick's level, but who knows where I might end up. Maybe in 10 year's time I will buy these Taylormades :)
2021 was the first year I started golfing and I bought the Sim 2 irons as a starter set. I really like how easy they were to launch and I got very good spin with them. Using a ProV1x, I can hold a ball into the green all the way down to about my 7 iron and then after that they just start to roll out 15+ feet. I started the season shooting a 130 score 🤣 and by the end I shot a personal best of 79 twice with dozens of mid 80 rounds. 3 eagles, 23 birdies and a bunch of the rest. My only gripe about them is that controlling draws and fades consistently is very hard. It’s hard to say I’m going to play a 10 yard draw or fade to this pin. Sometimes I would cook it and then had to go recover to get up and down. Before you say I’m lying, I played double rounds several times a week with over 60 rounds played in my first year ever golfing. I worked a lot on my swing and understanding of the game. Going to try and become a scratch golfer by 2023 seasons end
I game the rogue x irons and your points on the lack of touch around the greens and the occasional shots coming out waaayyy too hot are so valid! 7 thru 9 iron bump and runs are completely out of the question! I'd rather deloft my wedges hahaha
I was really interested in these irons at first, but I was also interested in how I'd hit them compared to blades and clubs with traditional lofts. Did GC Quad testing on 7 irons from the Stealth, some Callaway game improvement irons, P790s, and some Cobra King blades. The interesting part to me was that even with 5 or 6 degrees stronger loft sometimes, I wasn't actually longer with the Stealth clubs than the P790s. My longest clubs were the Cobra King blades and only by about 7 yards, meanwhile everything else I tested had the same distance as my 7 iron from 1994.
Garmin R10 test please. #2
I bought these.i am a very average golfer and love them.hitting irons very well.hope it keeps up
I bought mine 2 years ago and absolutely love them! the heads have a stronger loft but that works well for me- I am a 10 handicap and I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I just bought these irons. 5-AW. I spent $1,100 USD after getting them right sized. Pretty pricey, but my first real set of clubs. Prior I was using mismatched poorly sized dollar bin irons.
I don’t play golf at all. I just love your videos.
Absolutely love your commentary and work in the golf game. Best in the business.
I've just bought a full stealth set, professionally fitted. $4000 Australian. They feel amazing and so forgiving for my swing. Can't wait for Sunday.
Good to have you back Rick regarding the price of the taylormade irons I love golf but those clubs are way to high a price for a pensioner but still happy playing with my old cheap set cheers
When Rick talks about finesse on the greens... I'm just hoping to hit the greens!
Great review, appreciate all the videos
Would you advise if you were thinking of purchasing these to add a 4 iron, then perhaps purchase a gap and lob wedge ?
I can attest to this very problem as far as gapping. I bought the Tommy Armour 845 irons and they have strong lofts so I have to carry 5 wedges to compensate (PW, AW, 52, 56, and 60.) The pitching and approach wedges did come in the set however, but it's still a bit of an annoyance. However, from a loft perspective my 5i (lowest loft in iron set) and then 3 hybrid to 3w are gapped really well. So it also takes away some need to carry multiple long irons or woods/hybrids as well.
Rick, I agree that the new irons are impossible to fade consistently. I think they're engineering a slice out of them for the high amateurs. I love my 2016 M2 Tours but as a "drawer of the ball" I cannot fade these. I can push them with a fade swing, but they hardly slide to the right. I even increased the loft 2 degrees in every club.
It’s nice to see the hollow body construction used on GI irons. Well done TM.
Great review. I got the Stealth Irons set but I went for the Titleist Vokey SM9 for the PW and SW (46 and 56) because I want more control in that area. I need the distance mostly for 6 to 9 irons.
That’s my setup too and I absolutely love them!!
Please do a complete set comparison (Driver thru wedge) of the SIM 2 and the Stealth! Would love to see if the technology is worth the extra money! Love the content!
They look really nice. I wish club manufacturers would stop making them stronger lofts and saying the irons hit further, I can understand a 7i at 31 degrees but not at 28.5, that is 6i lofts and old 5i
"Ugly" is such a subjective concept. To create forgiveness, irons need to have a lot of perimeter weighting and thicker toplines, some of which can be seen at address. But some players like the look because it gives them confidence.
I switched from my first irons ping G20. Just started playing a year and a half ago. They were super light lofted and had no distance. Switched to Taylormade M6 irons. They are super hot off the face. I love them so far.
I've been using the G20's since 2012 and just ordered my Stealth irons 3 days ago. I'm super psyched about them! Hoping I didn't just waste my money lol
@@jekeler699 how do you find them ?
@@matts1414 I've played about 10 rounds with them now and they are definitely an improvement over my old set. Even a toe shot goes long and straight. I love them. Got fitted at Dick's sporting goods for mine.
Picked up a 4-A set of these 2 weeks ago. Loving them so far. Still get 200+ yards from the 5 iron even with a not so great strike. Only thing i will say is if youre ordering from Taylormade, the stock grips kinda feel like youre holding a pencil. Planning to get some midsize grips soon.
As a high handicapper using GI irons, I disagree with your concerns about the short game. 7 irons for £850 is perfect to get the 5i to AW@49* loft. Add that to the Kirkland Wedges from CostCo for £150, and that’s 52/56/60 taken care of. Just practice chip and runs with a 52 to get that control. And although the 49* & 52* are fairly close, as the wedges aren’t “forgiving” that increases the gapping between those. Perfect for those of us who need help getting distance until we’re around the green.
Just saw this video. I bought the new Stealth clubs, 4-PW, in February and they should be delivered tomorrow. Hitting 22 yards further on my 7 iron. Can not wait to get on the course with these!
Love your videos Rick.
I’m an average golfer playing a set of TaylorMade R7s and I’m finally in the market for a new set.
I’d love to see you compare the feel, forgiveness and numbers of the R7 and Stealth irons so I’ll know what to expect moving up to the Stealth irons with so many years of technology changes and the vast difference in loft between them.
Ordered these yesterday 😊😊 cannot wait, considering on the range my 7 iron wasn't far off 200 yards
Making comments as the video progresses. Got to admit, you hit the first shot where you were aimed, so it was a good start. Price, ehh, In 2021 purchased 5-gw Cleveland Launcher hb turbo irons ( mint ) for $750.00 very happy with them. Test two seven iron to a right pin, for decades I had to aim 5 yards right of the green to get at a right pin, just saying. Final review I agree they look like great irons, and more wedges will be needed. Extra final review, at my age the Hybrid irons are what gets me back in the game, hitting them higher and getting distance back. Good review Rick, thanks. PS Rick these Irons look just like my 2014 RocketBlades-HL Irons, which I thought were as good as any Iron I've ever played.
At almost $1500 Canadian, there is no way I would invest in these irons. I just received delivery of new PXG 0211’s at $95 per club for 6… that’s $570. They are strong lofted, but in my advancing age (67), I need distance and forgiveness. Testing has shown that to be the case and am looking forward to the snow melting to get them on the course.
Best testing so far. 👍🏼 the gap test should be a permanent addition to all your videos
Looks amazing but stronger lofted irons are not made for me. Oh yeah I got fitted for Taylormade Stealth Plus and the P-790 irons. I'm excited
I was fitted for irons this week and these irons were what I was matched with. Can't wait to get them.
I agree with you, I appreciate the review, spot on
I’m glad you like them. I just got fitted for the first time today and I ended up ordering these. Felt really consistent!! Thanks for the video!!
Those look great. I just got fitted for a set of pxg 0211s and have been blown away. Guy at the range guessed I was a 5-6 handicap..I’m a 15 then again I haven’t played a round with them. Would love to see you review more pxg clubs especially as they have plenty of affordable options. I got mine at 77 an iron including the fitting
Who the fuck talks to people at the range?
Thanks again Rick. Honest and impartial. Will be getting new irons this year and will watch your other brand reviews to help me make an informed choice. As you mention the importance of some quality wedge options in the bag needs to be considered with strong lofted irons such as these.
I agree that a "hard, bigger" head on an iron might impact touch but loft is loft. 44 deg is 44 degrees no matter what is stamped on the bottom so with a little practice, you adapt. Same goes for distances that if you went from traditional loft to strong loft, you simply adjust what distance each club is so with practice not an issue. I have played Cobra for several years so 30 deg is the weakest loft 7i I have played and just adapted. Now I am down to 27.5 and again adapted. I also realize that in "bump/run" type shots my 9i is closer to a standard 8i and play that instead of simply pulling out 8i because of what is on the bottom. Overall, these irons do look and sound impressive for a forgiveness model.