149: COMPLETE Lagoon 42 Catamaran Tour&Comparison Analysis with Leopard 42 -2021 Annapolis Boat Show

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @georgeorta
    @georgeorta 3 года назад +6

    As a Lagoon 42 owner I think your review and comparison was fair. I think it comes down to how each person/couple ranks or prioritizes different features of each brand and model. The great thing for all of us is that we have so many different models and options to choose from. For my wife and I we preferred the Lagoon 42 over the Leopard 42 and 44. Its not about which one is better so much as what you personally prefer, in my humble opinion. Cheers to you both.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for your comments and for watching. You are totally right. It’s personal preference - not right or wrong but left or right! We almost bought A Lagoon. They have great features and are a great boat!

  • @carlosvallejo4926
    @carlosvallejo4926 3 года назад +4

    Hellooo! How are you my dear friends? That was a great review. Defenitely the Leopard 42 is my choice. Lagoon has to make big decisions in their designs. Glad to see you again. Cheers from Canary Islands.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +2

      Hey Carlos!! It's so nice to hear from you. Thank you for your kind feedback. I know we missed alot of stuff due to being exhausted, but at least you can see the Lagoon and draw your own conclusions! Thanks again for being a loyal viewer!

  • @jaboes1
    @jaboes1 3 года назад +1

    Wow! Such a helpful video. Well done. 👍🏻

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thank you, Jackie!! Thanks for the tip about the link in FB too!! We appreciate it! Hope you are well! Much love!

  • @shaneharvey1026
    @shaneharvey1026 3 года назад

    Great review and I think you called this the way I would as well. It was cool to have met you both. Keep it up!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thank you so much!! Your feedback is so appreciated!! We loved meeting you too! Please stay in touch!

  • @moonraker814
    @moonraker814 2 года назад +2

    You two are awesome. Keep inspiring!!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      Oh thank you so much! You are always such an encouragement!!

  • @jamesbennett5421
    @jamesbennett5421 3 года назад +1

    Nicely done, thanks for sharing your insights.

  • @ianprice9005
    @ianprice9005 3 года назад +1

    Great show guys and choosing these 2 against each other my money is still on the Leopard .

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Hey Ian!! You are a faithful Leopard man! We like it too! ;) Thanks for watching and commenting, as always!

  • @paulpistorius5129
    @paulpistorius5129 3 года назад +2

    The forward lockers and the bilges of the Leopard had been coated to make cleaning a lot easier think that is an additional big pluspoint for the Leopard. Additionally find the heads on the Lagoon rather dark on the guest side with only roof hatches and no opening side ports. Also the forward head seemed to be a wet head. Storage in the heads on the guest side also seemed a lot less than on the Leopard. Agree that the upper cupboards on the Lagoon are useful but it seemed to have less under floor storage. Also found the large outside cockpit table on the Lagoon impractical and it looked like it would make opening the locker under the seat difficult. Appreciate the comparison but may have been an idea to edit and show side by side films of similar areas. Thanks for the video

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +1

      Hey Paul - Thanks for watching and commenting. You are right - side by side vids would have been a lot better to show the comparison. Thanks for that tip for the future. Great point on the lockers and bilges coating. I saw that but it never registered! I do love that feature! And, YES!! Another good catch - no windows in the bathrooms is not so nice. We agree. The forward head IS a wet head. Not ideal and far less floor storage. Yes, you have made a lot of great points. I think we missed alot on the Lagoon. We were pretty fried after seeing the Leopard 42, doing the analysis, and meeting so many friends and new friends that we didn't do the Lagoon 42 review justice. Thanks for your input!

  • @Boody523
    @Boody523 3 года назад +1

    Nice job, always pros and cons to every boat. I really like the galley that couch area

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for your positive feedback, for watching and your comments. I agree that the galley couch area is great!

  • @justsmy5677
    @justsmy5677 3 года назад +3

    Great video - again it was awesome meeting you at Annapolis!
    For cruising, I think the Leopard has a couple of features that really put it over the top. The front door and lounge area, plus the top lounge area are both larger and more functional on the Leopard. I think that is really important on a 42 ft boat (additional space to spread out in when entertaining or trying to get where the breeze is and the sun is not)! I’m also a bit concerned about the construction of the Lagoon after all the bulkhead issues (what else did they cut corners on?).
    My money is on Leopard!
    Cheers, keep sailing and crankin’ out vids😎

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting!! We loved meeting you too!! Thanks for saying hello. I agree with you about the Leopard using space smarter. My money is on leopard too!! Thanks again for your constant encouragement. We are grateful. Heading to the Bahamas in the morning! We cannot wait to get into warm water!! ;)

    • @aeasthouse316
      @aeasthouse316 2 года назад +2

      You can notice the difference in build quality when you look at the bilges. Leopard all bilges are gel coated - easy to clean and maintain. Lagoon are bare fibre glass, very rough.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      Yes! It makes cleaning the bilge much easier when they are coated. We love that feature.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      @@aeasthouse316 Although they have their differences, both Lagoon and Leopard do make good boats. Two different cultures / different approaches.

    • @aeasthouse316
      @aeasthouse316 2 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway agree. I’ve been a big Lagoon fan, sailed numerous times on a Lagoon 400 and loved the small compact size and the styling of it. That said, Lagoon has shown to have serious quality issues. Sure, no perfect boat and all have issues but having question marks about Lagoons structural integrity and build quality (poor tabbing, exposed ply in wet areas, etc) has pushed me away. How Lagoon is handling the situation is not good. They can recover but they will have to step up. Will they have the capital to make needed repairs and own their mistakes? Not sure. In contrast, what I’ve seen about Leopard is promising - yes window issues but not te the extent of risking the safety of the vessel and crew. Will be sailing on Leopard 42 in a couple of months time, exited to compare with Lagoon myself.

  • @jasonmckenzie3840
    @jasonmckenzie3840 3 года назад +1

    Great video guys. I would take the leopard any day….

  • @gypsysoul1719
    @gypsysoul1719 2 года назад

    Did I miss something? The title says this video is a complete Lagoon 42 vs Leopard 42 comparison. So why did you not even bother to show any single shot of the Leopard?

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      Thank you for your comment. We apologize. We don't want to be misleading. The episode prior to this was a full tour of the Leopard 42 (Episode 148). In this video, we show mainly the Lagoon 42 (with snippets from the L42) and talk about the comparison.

  • @davidw924
    @davidw924 3 года назад +1

    Another good review! I like the comparative nature of this one. Did you guys check out the Bali 4.2? We went back to that one twice during the show.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thank you so much! We appreciate the positive feedback. We did not check the Bali 4.2. Do you prefer that over Leopard and Lagoon? What's your thought?

    • @davidw924
      @davidw924 3 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway I am not an experienced sailor, so take my comments as such... We liked the openness of the Bali, the front door (like Leopard), and the "garage door" functionality on the rear that allows it to covert from fully open to fully closed. It had several lounge areas that all seemed functional. It is controversial in design due to the fixed front in lieu of trampolines, but I have not read where this has been an issue for Bali owners... just a target for traditionalists. :)

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      @@davidw924 First of all, there are trade offs with everything on a boat. Also, each manufacturer has it's own culture and unique target audience, so our questions is, how are you going to use your boat?
      In our opinion, the absence of a bow trampoline is a negative if you are planning on sailing offshore because of weight and wave issues. My guess is that Bali's specialty is the charter market where there is little emphasis in traveling offshore and more on comfort. Hope that helps and thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @shanevillis4079
      @shanevillis4079 3 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway That's the same for Leopard and Lagoon. Primarily the charter market is both their target,

  • @williampace6021
    @williampace6021 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for your review. It is always interesting to look at other boats. I have a minor beef: when you review boats, it would be nice to use the proper terminology. The stainless pole? It is a compression post that transfers the load of the mast above it. The mast is moved aft to move the center of effort aft in order to try and improve performance. The “holders” on the stove? Fiddles. Hanging lockers, not closets. Heads, not bathrooms. Cabins, not bedrooms, berths, not beds. The “roof” could be the hard top or hard Bimini. It doesn’t just sound nautical, but gives a manner of credibility to your review. I also don’t think forward doors are anything I would put on my boat, they leak. Common rail diesels might not be handy after a lightning strike. If you look at older boats, they had more hatches for ventilation than the new boats, which everyone seems to want A/C in nowadays.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for your comment. We appreciate your feedback. We couldn’t agree more!! We are new to boating and the vocabulary is being learned as we go. We never sailed before in our lives so changing terminology is a work in progress! It’s like learning a new language at age 50! At the start of our boat reviews, we asked for our audience to be patient with our terminology. We are trying our best to use the correct terms, but that will take a while. Thanks!

    • @williampace6021
      @williampace6021 2 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway , I totally understand. I was 48 when my wife and I became full-time cruisers. She had grown up with boats and had 3 sailboats before we met. I grew up in CO. We took ASA classes together so we used the same terminology. We bought what we considered to be the best Bluewater boat we could afford, an Amel Mango and cruised her 10 years, selling her in Australia after 4 grandkids had been born. Communication is key in urgent situations, which we both knew from our ICU careers. We thought we were through cruising and bought a home in our home port where all our kids lived. 4 months later it flooded and we got frustrated rebuilding, so we naturally bought another boat. We had looked at many Cats and found a model we liked. The particular boat had a couple of issues, so we told the broker that we would want to see another example. He said there were no others like her in the US. We said we didn’t think we needed to be limited to the US. Found one in the BVI. Inspected it, had a survey and bought it in a week. The last Privilege 42 built. Our shakedown was a 1500 mile passage, bringing her home. We refit her over a year, but 2020 was not the year to go back out. She had been off shore power for 2 years, large solar arrays, 800ah Lithium. Large alternators. No A/C ( 15 hatches) no generator. Shaft drive. 20 years ago she was built with cored hull, glass and Kevlar, vacuum infused epoxy. We modified her pretty extensively. She is a delight and much lighter than most newer 42’s but she is not a performance Cat. She is meant to be our winter home.

    • @williampace6021
      @williampace6021 2 года назад +1

      Good luck and Fair winds to you both. We hope to meet you out there. BTW, a boat needs wood for character, in our opinion.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад +1

      Ha ha ha. Brown was in the furniture business and he has sworn off wood! It’s so much work to maintain! It does look beautiful, but it’s a lot of work to keep it looking great!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      Wow! You have quite a story! Thanks for sharing that with us! You are so fortunate that you and your wife have lived a sailing lifestyle , know boats, know the language. It’s much easier to learn when you are younger. We are so glad you are back on the water and found a cat that you are happy with…after a lot of refits. Privilege is a great boat and I am sure will bring you and your family much joy! I hope your grandchildren like to sail! We look forward to sharing an anchorage with you and learning from all of your experiences!! Thanks again for your comments!

  • @tomaslamas2009
    @tomaslamas2009 3 года назад +1

    I think the next great comparison is between Leopard 42 and Bali 4.2. I still undecided between those 2 because I like very much the hard deck in forward in Bali but I hate the inaccessible helm station from lounge area. So Leopard did a better job!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Oh wow. Thanks. Next time we get on a Bali 4.2. We have yet to see one in person. Thanks for your input. I agree that the helm accessibility on the Leopard is superb. You have encouraged us to look at the Bali as comparison. Thanks!!

  • @BarracudaHawk
    @BarracudaHawk 2 года назад +1

    The teak table mounts on the 42 are off set, that one must have been mounted the wrong way around. It’s obviously not normal. Just need to spin it round the other way.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      Ah, that's a good catch! Well done. I am sure you are right as the designer would have been fired otherwise! Thanks for your comment!

  • @Planzman1
    @Planzman1 3 года назад

    Did you get a chance to checkout the bali catspace 40 footer, it has a walk-in closet

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Oh no. We didn’t and now I am so disappointed!! Thanks for letting me know and for watching!

  • @ReefRunner1
    @ReefRunner1 3 года назад

    Curious as to why flexible solar panels are worthless... did you have a bad experience?

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +1

      Good question! Yes, the two panels that came with our Leopard installed by the manufacturer no longer work and if you compare the typical warranty of a flexible panel, they are normally 5 years vs. 25 years for hard panels which is indicative of how long they will last and they are generally higher in price per watt delivered than hard panels. Understandably, there are places where only a flexible panel will work; however, Leopard could have used more robust hard versions that last longer without spending more money. Here’s a good video on the subject. Hope it’s helpful. ruclips.net/video/onMZ_dRSFUs/видео.html

    • @williampace6021
      @williampace6021 2 года назад +1

      Flexible panels have their place, and quality depends much more on manufacturer than fixed panels. If you have to walk on your Bimini tending your main, it is a solution. Otherwise a fixed panel with some air space underneath for cooling will give you a more efficient system.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      @@williampace6021 Yes as for the reasons you’ve mentioned naturally there are advantages for using flexible solar panels including reducing the cost of installation due to their lighter weight and ease of install. There is; however, due to the flexible polymer materials they’re made of that even the highest quality Sun Power flexible panels come with only a 5 year warranty. Because they simply don’t last as long as most hard panels.

  • @roderikvanl
    @roderikvanl 3 года назад

    good vid, thanks - the leopard is 20% more expensive in a similar option layout....

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching and that information! Are you comparing it’s price to the Lagoon 42 or another catamaran?

    • @roderikvanl
      @roderikvanl 3 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway to the L42

  • @karlgiel8891
    @karlgiel8891 3 года назад +1

    Just check the bulkheads first😉

  • @BennyTheNerd
    @BennyTheNerd 3 года назад +1

    The Leopard MUST be the choice, how can you trust Lagoon after the bulk head issues on SO many catamarans.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +1

      Good point; however, many catamaran brands have their documented defects. For instance, the Leopard 40s have front windows that crack due to structural engineering and manufacturing deficiencies. Still a great boat and something that can be overcome.

  • @sharonpowell3913
    @sharonpowell3913 3 года назад +1

    Those narrow passageways make me cringe. Boats are definitely not for "fluffy" people like me, that's for sure! Lol!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад

      😂 🤣🤣🤣 For sure our dream is another person’s nightmare 😱😱😱

  • @kodiak7
    @kodiak7 6 месяцев назад

    Granted this is 2 years too late, but for prospective buyers. Neither. RUclips abounds in videos highlighting problems from both manufacturers. From design, to quality control to warranty issues. Avoid these 2 makes.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  6 месяцев назад

      Every boat has issues. If never escapes them…

  • @iamnotpaulavery
    @iamnotpaulavery 3 года назад

    Nice boat. However some design aspects look like they were created with design over functionality/safety...and some parts look downright cheap - _but I bet the price of the boat isn't!!_
    The stairs going up to the roof from the helm are a joke. And all the steps throughout the boat are practically just wood with spaghetti thin rubber inserts. Every step throughout a marine vessel needs to have either a large, inset and screwed on rubber insert for a gripping surface, or something else. Otherwise they're a hazard. No, they're not as "pretty", but who really cares. And why is it that the only way you can safely walk around the boat up top is by grabbing a hold of the gutter?? The boat needs substantial, solidly fixed SS safety rails, not cables, around the entire perimeter. And what's wrong with solar panels? If anything, I would want alot more of them connected to a dedicated battery room/compartment. You never know when you'll need substantial emergency power, especially with all those freezers. But yes, that particular solar panel looks like it was bought at home depot.
    I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars. And I'm being generous!
    Forget Lagoon, go with Leopard. They make better designed vessels!

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching and your well thought out comments regarding safety. I’m not opposed to solar panels, just flexible solar panels because they are expensive and have a short lifespan compared to hard panels. To live off grid, solar is where it’s at and there is plenty of room for them on a catamaran. We ❤️ our solar upgrades which you can learn more about here. ruclips.net/video/mmbo5-Wj7W4/видео.html . Stay tuned for a video in a few weeks focusing on our panels and solar arch.

    • @iamnotpaulavery
      @iamnotpaulavery 3 года назад +1

      @@SailingBlownAway Thanks! Yes, good quality solar panels can be very important in case regular power is cut off for whatever reason.

  • @Tigersmundo
    @Tigersmundo 2 года назад +1

    *Just on Bulkhead repair cost issues and deniability from L***N down the line LEOPARD all day baby!!!!*

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад

      HA HA! Yes, we can totally agree with you on that!

  • @DizDiq
    @DizDiq 2 года назад +1

    All good till you called solar panels worthless.

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад +1

      The flexible solar panels that you can walk on are notorious for not functioning well. Their output is minimal as is their lifespan. This is why we called them worthless. We have had to rip out the ones on our roof that are only 5 years old as they don’t offer any power and haven’t for a while. Hard panels will last much longer and produce much more effectively.

  • @tancolvis5240
    @tancolvis5240 2 года назад +1

    Don’t buy lagoon .

    • @SailingBlownAway
      @SailingBlownAway  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. Why do you feel this way? Is it more than the bulkhead issues?