Hey guys it’s Ramona Lianna mom we meet in Martinique we are in st Martin just wanted to wish you guys luck on finding a catamaran I find a catamaran is the best boat you can buy especially when you have kids your son is going to love it hope we will see each other again one day tell Rivers Lianna and Nikera and Arianna says 👋
@@SailAwayVlog hey guys we are planning to sail to the grenadines so we might see each other sooner than we think 😊but if it doesn’t happen there we will keep following you guys to see where you are heading and if we are heading the same direction I will leave you a message good luck with your catamaran search
It's hard not to argue with your strategy starting with a boat out of your range. Wanting what we can't afford and settling for less is part of life. With rising prices, I face it at the grocery store every week.💰 That was fun to watch.
This is an exciting new adventure ! Obviously there's no perfect boat but you'll find something terrific , with patience. Thankfully many of the existing RUclipsrs give us a close-up of their fine yachts every week. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Eric I’m sure you will work it all out. You did say “project” so - project it is. You will end up with the boat you really love. Can’t wait to watch your progress. Cheers
Great review, I am so sad I have to sell mine. Will for sure refer your video to see what the boat was like before it was converted from a charter boat.
OMG!!! SO EXCITING!!! I have so much catching up to do! That is one beautiful boat!!! I could definitely see you guys living it. You deserve it!!! Buy it!!! 😂 wish it was that easy… Best wishes going forward!
You can often offer sellers 100k less than asking price and they sell .. limited buyers and the upkeep of these boats … I’ve seen it done many times … good luck happy hunting.. don’t be scared to make silly bids .. miracles some times happen.. the worst they can say is no 😆 .. great channel easy to watch … good luck you guys … 👋
Thank you! And yes, I’ve heard stories of that as well and we’re certainly not above it. I will say it’s not very common right now though. Catamarans especially are just in really high demand.
It will be your home so pick what you want and need. Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Looking forward to seeing the next video. 😀
2004 LEOPARD 47 CHARTER VERSION posted on Craigslist Annapolis $339,500. New engines, transmissions, bottom paint. YT won't let me post it. It is the last Robertson and Caine model with the desired shaft drive. Her sleek lines and profile make her a pleasure to look at and her bulletproof construction and oversized systems make this model the perfect solution for your next family adventure,
Great boat, just make sure you get one that is already set up for cruising. Water maker, solar, batteries and a washing machine wouldn’t hurt either 😉 happy hunting
Good looking boat, still and never will be a fan of a cat. Saying that I love having friends with cats to have a sundowner on. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
Yep, she was definitely nice. I still have my reservations about how sailing performance will be on any of them, but I’m excited to find out. It’s a trade off for the liveability at anchor. Life is nothing if not a series of compromises I guess!
@@SailAwayVlog As long you do not overload a cat and are happy with reefing early. They sail pretty good. I sailed on several cats (as a hands on guest). Just do not like the hobby horsing they do a mono is just more comfortable sailing if you can get used to the lean.
You fits soooooooooooo well on this boat. Cheering for an unexpected find in your price range and simple like that you'll be as soon as possible in a Leopard 48. Cheers from Brasil
the Leopard 48 seems to be one of the best I've come across, great speed and plenty of room with ease of everything. the prices have sky rocketed though recently!
You'll get use to that drawer style fridge you'll find it's much easier to find things in your not bent over trying to spot something stashed in the back of a shelve you just roll open the drawer and there's every thing right infront of you
How are you going to configure a cabin to meet your needs for a studio/workspace? Do you plan to remove a bed to create open floor space? If so I assume at least one underbed area free of tanks, electrical gear, watermaker etc. is part of your criteria. Do you expect to have more space than you need so some could be devoted to a workshop? Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! ⛵❤️😁
Thanks! I don’t really need a ton of space. I’m hoping to have just enough floor space for a chair, then some way to orient a relatively small microphone hood…shouldn’t require too much destruction!
The thing about your lifestyle is how wonderful it is for your child Rivers though I guess you know his name so that is redundant :) Sure from his point of view everyday is a holiday in exotic locations but more or less by osmosis he will pick up so many skills experiences and instill correct attitudes that he will be far above his contemporaries when he leaves the nest to go to university or start his own way in life.
Nice video. Similar scoring from my wife and I. Sadly, the exploding market recently is the only thing putting this vessel out of your price range. I spoke to a number of Moorings Leopard 48 buyers up to around Dec 2021, and they were able to offer Moorings high $300K/just under $400K for their damaged and professionally repaired 48s. The seller's market has put an end to those days.
I say make a offer . Go low . You never know . lol Just remember you will need upgrades . Water maker , maybe Lithium batteries instead of the AGM it came with , washer/ dryer , lots of solar , just to name a few . Well guess you should look at more boats before you make a offer . That boat was a beauty and checked a lot of the boxes you are looking for in a home . A question , was this boat a recent refit ? Like new sails , rigging , electrical , windlass , engines & drives . I wish you told more about the damage from the hurricane . Best of luck finding your next home ⛵🏡
Yep, that’ll be true of most boats, especially those coming out of charter. Either that or pay a premium for a recently outfitted boat. Time will tell I guess!
That’s a great review! Now looking forward to your review on the Outremer 45 which was apparently launched only a few years ago and is a true blue water cruiser, purpose built for couples to easily control over long range passages with. All comfort amenities and unseen performances.” They say! “Outremer Yachts have continued to lead the way in production boat building of high performance cruising catamarans, with the company winning multiple European Boat of the Year awards in recent years. The current range of Outremer include the 45, 4X, 51, the 59ft 5X.” Just saying!
@@SailAwayVlog hey thanks so much for making this video for all of us! I wasn’t looking 5 months ago so I don’t know which direction these L48s are going. Have they gotten more expensive or less expensive over the last 5 months? Trying to decide when we start seriously shopping. Thanks 🙏
The sail drive opens up more options for use of space, but I’d LOVE to find something with shaft drive if it was designed well. Much cheaper and easier to service.
yes there's lots of storage space, but that's it, SPACE.. as soon as you start filling the space you defeat one of the catamarans benefits, being speed. Have you looked at the larger 50+ monos? half the cost with 5 proper cabins.
Thanks for watching! Depends on the cat, some have better load carrying ability than others. For us, it’s not a big deal, we don’t plan to load it down with anything terribly heavy…just room for normal stuff like clothes and food! We live on a very spacious 46’ mono now…you need a 60’+ mono to equal the living space of a modern 45’ cat, and even the the outside space won’t compare and you still don’t get much separation of space.
Yes that's definitely what's missing. These reports are not worth much uness they sal the boat. If not it's just a houseboat. There is such a thing as the joy of sailing and that is why most of us are sailors. Is that is compromised you are buying a houseboat. I understand that for somebody with a child and no house that just messes around in the Caribbean sailing infrequently within a few hundred mile radius the houseboat trade-off is worth it. Not for me however
Great choice to me, but I'd go for an older model from about 2013 with real wood veneer instead of these plastic surfaces. It's not only a better livability to me, it's a matter of quality as well. There were a lot of cases where the plastic edges came loose and they're hard to glue back on as they were hot glued or with contact glue.
Advantage of a cat or trimaran is that you can live at anchor far more comfortably.. if its got the right layout and ventilation. Full bridge deck cats raise issues about mainsail access...and also weather protection in difficult conditions.. Stay away from exposed fully aft helms.. they are brutal in the tropics and exhausting in foul cold climates or on passage. Racers might like that sort of thing but for live aboard long distance cruising and passage making ..... no way 🇬🇧🧙♂️ Have you seen the larger Maine Cats ? The other option is to find a slightly older custom built boat thats been fully refreshed. S Africa Australia New Zealand, France and UK all build Blue water Cats.
Yep, all true. The flybridge is such a cool space, but I really hate the lack of boom access. There are some really cool more “boutique” brands that have some affordable older models that still hold up. Maybe a fixer upper? Time will tell!
Guys just remember this is going to b your home and I would rather be more in debt than regret not taking the one I wanted and being disappointed with my decision just because of a financial problem I know money is a problem but if you can raise you pice ranged do it.
Yep, that thought has definitely crossed our minds. It’s definitely a balance between not sacrificing what we want in a home and not making ourselves “boat poor”. We’ll see!
Remember...catamaran double the expenses on everything....mooring...double price...service ..double price....you got an idea...everything double ups....but if you got what it takes to sail a catamaran...Happy sailing ⛵️ 😉 👌
Thanks for watching! In a lot of ways, yes, double, but not all. Marinas have found ways to accommodate cats these days for about 50% more…pretty much the same for bailouts, etc. I do hate the idea of two motors to service though. Hopefully it’s worth the benefits!
Have you looked in Europe, Asia, the Mediterranean? I've heard you might find one there. Hey, don't be afraid to make ridiculous offers. Sometime people have haven't had any offers in months and they just decide let's get rid of this boat cause we may not get another offer. You just never know. I hope you find just the one you are lookimg for soon.
Nothing wrong with a low offer but i I'm under the impression there's a very high demand for catamarans. I'm sure you've noticed some of the popular RUclipsrs have sold their boats are having trouble finding a replacement
We have thought about those locations, but moving from one Boat to another, the logistics would just be too much. Regarding offers though, I think there are some that low offers could work on, but they’re more the older fixer uppers. The more ready to go boats are in very high demand.
Generally that’s good advice. Those Moorings boats however, with the extreme list of reconditioning items they go through, are truly in better shape than one of the same age that was never damaged. There are some nice boats in the 40-42’ range and we’ve spent a lot of time on them, but we really need the space of mid-40s or larger for our needs.
@@SailAwayVlog you dont need the space -- you want the spce. i get it but you are putting yourself in a giant financial hole. a boat costs 10% annually in maint. a mid 40 is a million $ new. 10% of that is a huge amount to spend and it only goes up as the boat ages.
Thanks for the concern, but we’ve owned boats for 25 years and lived on this one for 3, so we’re very aware of costs and what we need in a next boat. I think you may have missed some details…we’re not buying new, we’re buying used, and at this stage of the search under $400k. We explained our space needs a couple videos back when we announced our boat for sale.
If you would like to get into a boat like this that is out of your price range. I may be able to show you how. Send some contact info if you are interested.
Having bought a 48 a year ago I can only tell you „go get it - the market‘s already dry“. BTW: Are you sure they‘ve showed you the right boat? Is the HIN really ending with 414?
All boats are compromises. You need a category for how much you will have to spend to add stuff like solar etc. You said nothing about the standing rigging. Big $ spend to rerig.
Yeah we’ll have to talk more about that stuff. Just rating these boats from a baseline is one thing…for our purposes that stuff is very much a part of the equation.
Beware of the bulkheads in leopards. There are to many documented cases of bulkhead not just cracks but complete failure. If sailed gently probably be ok. Just beware.
Right now all cats are over priced and everyone is trying to get rid of them now that the prices are so high on them . In about a year the bottom of the market is going to drop out of the cat market and you won't be able to give them away .
They don't make a boat that I feel is suficiant to be honet in design. I call it cake. Have you seen a boat with broken bulk heads, and failed members that are dangerous to trust? They add weight that is heavy and weak. Just consider aluminum. It weights 166 pounds a cubic. if you pulled tention on it it would fail at 4,300,000 pounds the same weight of bamboo would fail at 35,300,000. Bamboo is light and very strong . Why put any wood in a boat that is for show? Aluminum is 30,000 psi, and bamboo is 28,000 psi and the bamboo weight weigts 20 pounds. bamboo is a grass.
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Hey guys it’s Ramona Lianna mom we meet in Martinique we are in st Martin just wanted to wish you guys luck on finding a catamaran I find a catamaran is the best boat you can buy especially when you have kids your son is going to love it hope we will see each other again one day tell Rivers Lianna and Nikera and Arianna says 👋
Hey guys! Rivers says hi back. Hope your travels are going well and I’m sure we’ll run into you again eventually!
@@SailAwayVlog hey guys we are planning to sail to the grenadines so we might see each other sooner than we think 😊but if it doesn’t happen there we will keep following you guys to see where you are heading and if we are heading the same direction I will leave you a message good luck with your catamaran search
It's hard not to argue with your strategy starting with a boat out of your range. Wanting what we can't afford and settling for less is part of life. With rising prices, I face it at the grocery store every week.💰 That was fun to watch.
lol…it’s kinda been a trend all my life! Cars, houses…I always tend to look “big” first then eventually settle back to reality. It’s worked so far!
This is an exciting new adventure ! Obviously there's no perfect boat but you'll find something terrific , with patience. Thankfully many of the existing RUclipsrs give us a close-up of their fine yachts every week. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Thanks so much! We’re confident the right boat will show up at the right time.
Eric I’m sure you will work it all out. You did say “project” so - project it is. You will end up with the boat you really love. Can’t wait to watch your progress. Cheers
Thank you! We're already working through "the list" and things are coming along nicely. :-)
Super hyped for you guys! Excited to see new adventures on your new cat!
Thanks so much!
love you guys
Thank you!
Great review, I am so sad I have to sell mine. Will for sure refer your video to see what the boat was like before it was converted from a charter boat.
Awesome Boat. They sail great. So much room for solar.
Yes, acres!
Great Job! I can't wait for the final outcome.
Thanks…us too!
Informative.
Happy you’re able to upgrade.
Thanks for sharing.
Life is good~
Thanks! Hopefully we can find the right boat AND sell ours!
I would love that front porch!!!
It’s the bomb
Love the Leopards!
Yep, pretty solid line all the way back to the old Leopard 45!
I've seen heads used for storage. Particularly wet clothing and items. Als0 a good location for a washer/dryer. The front porch is awesome!
2004
2004 LEOPARD 47 CHARTER VERSION $339,500. New engines, transmissions, bottom paint. Annapolis Craigslist
Yep, that’s definitely true and something we would do if we wind up with a 4 head version. Always ways to use that space.
Love the scale! Amazing people doing amazing things.
Thank you!
All the South African built catamaran's have great build quality and are strong with nice finishes, and their bulkheads don't break.
I agree! This boat felt very stout.
Great choice. Hope you get it!
Thanks! Probably out of range, but awesome boat!
well presented yacht
OMG!!! SO EXCITING!!! I have so much catching up to do! That is one beautiful boat!!! I could definitely see you guys living it. You deserve it!!! Buy it!!! 😂 wish it was that easy…
Best wishes going forward!
Lol…we wish it was too! As Loren said, just write a check!
You can often offer sellers 100k less than asking price and they sell .. limited buyers and the upkeep of these boats … I’ve seen it done many times … good luck happy hunting.. don’t be scared to make silly bids .. miracles some times happen.. the worst they can say is no 😆 .. great channel easy to watch … good luck you guys … 👋
Thank you! And yes, I’ve heard stories of that as well and we’re certainly not above it. I will say it’s not very common right now though. Catamarans especially are just in really high demand.
It will be your home so pick what you want and need. Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Looking forward to seeing the next video. 😀
2004 LEOPARD 47 CHARTER VERSION posted on Craigslist Annapolis $339,500. New engines, transmissions, bottom paint. YT won't let me post it.
It is the last Robertson and Caine model with the desired shaft drive. Her sleek lines and profile make her a pleasure to look at and her bulletproof construction and oversized systems make this model the perfect solution for your next family adventure,
Thanks so much! We’ll get to a decisive on eventually and move forward.
Great boat, just make sure you get one that is already set up for cruising. Water maker, solar, batteries and a washing machine wouldn’t hurt either 😉 happy hunting
Thanks! Yeah we’re keeping all that in mind. Don’t mind adding some, but preferably not ALL that stuff ourselves…really adds up!
Lots of creature comforts on that boat.
For sure. Too many maybe? Lol
Oh I see , another scorching video journal boat switching point twitching ...... clifhanger ditching😁
Lots of sharp edges and corners!
Not too bad really. Nothing you could really get hurt on.
Stoked for you guys!
Also, I love seeing cat reviews 😁
Thank you!
Good looking boat, still and never will be a fan of a cat. Saying that I love having friends with cats to have a sundowner on.
Looking forward to the rest of this series.
Yep, she was definitely nice. I still have my reservations about how sailing performance will be on any of them, but I’m excited to find out. It’s a trade off for the liveability at anchor. Life is nothing if not a series of compromises I guess!
@@SailAwayVlog As long you do not overload a cat and are happy with reefing early. They sail pretty good. I sailed on several cats (as a hands on guest). Just do not like the hobby horsing they do a mono is just more comfortable sailing if you can get used to the lean.
You fits soooooooooooo well on this boat. Cheering for an unexpected find in your price range and simple like that you'll be as soon as possible in a Leopard 48. Cheers from Brasil
We sure liked it…if we can just find one a little cheaper!
@@SailAwayVlog What were they asking for it ??
Great video
Thanks!
the Leopard 48 seems to be one of the best I've come across, great speed and plenty of room with ease of everything. the prices have sky rocketed though recently!
Definitely, if money wasn’t in the equation we would grab one up.
You'll get use to that drawer style fridge you'll find it's much easier to find things in your not bent over trying to spot something stashed in the back of a shelve you just roll open the drawer and there's every thing right infront of you
How are you going to configure a cabin to meet your needs for a studio/workspace? Do you plan to remove a bed to create open floor space? If so I assume at least one underbed area free of tanks, electrical gear, watermaker etc. is part of your criteria. Do you expect to have more space than you need so some could be devoted to a workshop?
Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! ⛵❤️😁
Thanks! I don’t really need a ton of space. I’m hoping to have just enough floor space for a chair, then some way to orient a relatively small microphone hood…shouldn’t require too much destruction!
The thing about your lifestyle is how wonderful it is for your child Rivers though I guess you know his name so that is redundant :) Sure from his point of view everyday is a holiday in exotic locations but more or less by osmosis he will pick up so many skills experiences and instill correct attitudes that he will be far above his contemporaries when he leaves the nest to go to university or start his own way in life.
Hello Glenn
Thanks for all that! I sure hope that’s the case. So far he seems to be doing well!
Nice video. Similar scoring from my wife and I. Sadly, the exploding market recently is the only thing putting this vessel out of your price range. I spoke to a number of Moorings Leopard 48 buyers up to around Dec 2021, and they were able to offer Moorings high $300K/just under $400K for their damaged and professionally repaired 48s. The seller's market has put an end to those days.
Glad I don't have to make this decision!! LOL Of course, hitting the Mega Million or Powerball would make the decision a bit easier!
Hmmm…maybe that should be our strategy! Can’t win if we don’t play!
I say make a offer . Go low . You never know . lol Just remember you will need upgrades . Water maker , maybe Lithium batteries instead of the AGM it came with , washer/ dryer , lots of solar , just to name a few . Well guess you should look at more boats before you make a offer . That boat was a beauty and checked a lot of the boxes you are looking for in a home . A question , was this boat a recent refit ? Like new sails , rigging , electrical , windlass , engines & drives . I wish you told more about the damage from the hurricane . Best of luck finding your next home ⛵🏡
Yep, that’ll be true of most boats, especially those coming out of charter. Either that or pay a premium for a recently outfitted boat. Time will tell I guess!
Wat until you actually sail the Leopard 48, down and up the South African east coast. Built for hard work and comfort. Briliant.
That’s a sea trial I’d love to do!
That’s a great review! Now looking forward to your review on the Outremer 45 which was apparently launched only a few years ago and is a true blue water cruiser, purpose built for couples to easily control over long range passages with. All comfort amenities and unseen performances.” They say!
“Outremer Yachts have continued to lead the way in production boat building of high performance cruising catamarans, with the company winning multiple European Boat of the Year awards in recent years. The current range of Outremer include the 45, 4X, 51, the 59ft 5X.”
Just saying!
LaVagabond !
The larger Outremers are fantastic! The mid range frankly are kind of cramped inside and very expensive even used.
The L48 was in budget pre-Covid. Hopefully in 6mths or so prices will adjust?
Yeah, those Moorings ones probably were! The “bubble” is definitely starting to deflate…hard to say how long it will take. Thanks for watching!
@@SailAwayVlog hey thanks so much for making this video for all of us! I wasn’t looking 5 months ago so I don’t know which direction these L48s are going. Have they gotten more expensive or less expensive over the last 5 months? Trying to decide when we start seriously shopping. Thanks 🙏
I think Sailing Dauntless has a Leopard 48 for sale I think . You might want to get of hold of them ?!
They sell their Lagoon 450 and keep the Leopard 50. No one gets rid of the forward cockpit… ☺️
What are your thoughts on sail drive vs. shaft drive?
The sail drive opens up more options for use of space, but I’d LOVE to find something with shaft drive if it was designed well. Much cheaper and easier to service.
yes there's lots of storage space, but that's it, SPACE.. as soon as you start filling the space you defeat one of the catamarans benefits, being speed. Have you looked at the larger 50+ monos? half the cost with 5 proper cabins.
Thanks for watching! Depends on the cat, some have better load carrying ability than others. For us, it’s not a big deal, we don’t plan to load it down with anything terribly heavy…just room for normal stuff like clothes and food! We live on a very spacious 46’ mono now…you need a 60’+ mono to equal the living space of a modern 45’ cat, and even the the outside space won’t compare and you still don’t get much separation of space.
Yes that's definitely what's missing. These reports are not worth much uness they sal the boat. If not it's just a houseboat. There is such a thing as the joy of sailing and that is why most of us are sailors. Is that is compromised you are buying a houseboat. I understand that for somebody with a child and no house that just messes around in the Caribbean sailing infrequently within a few hundred mile radius the houseboat trade-off is worth it. Not for me however
Great choice to me, but I'd go for an older model from about 2013 with real wood veneer instead of these plastic surfaces. It's not only a better livability to me, it's a matter of quality as well. There were a lot of cases where the plastic edges came loose and they're hard to glue back on as they were hot glued or with contact glue.
Yeah, the newer boats really have lost some quality. This was a 2014 and it’s cabinetry was still pretty stout.
Advantage of a cat or trimaran is that you can live at anchor far
more comfortably.. if its got the right layout and ventilation.
Full bridge deck cats raise issues about mainsail access...and also weather protection in difficult conditions..
Stay away from exposed fully aft helms.. they are brutal in the tropics and exhausting in foul cold climates or on passage.
Racers might like that sort of thing but for live aboard long distance cruising and passage making ..... no way 🇬🇧🧙♂️
Have you seen the larger Maine Cats ?
The other option is to find a slightly older custom built boat thats been fully refreshed.
S Africa Australia New Zealand, France and UK all build Blue water Cats.
Yep, all true. The flybridge is such a cool space, but I really hate the lack of boom access. There are some really cool more “boutique” brands that have some affordable older models that still hold up. Maybe a fixer upper? Time will tell!
Yanmars 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿, 1 Head becomes washer / dryer .
Please try to hold your camera more steady!
Oh no that one was awesome Goodluck finding one to size up to it. lol
Thanks we’ll do our best!
guys i think if you have to take more of a loan to get what you want i think it is worth it.
Guys just remember this is going to b your home and I would rather be more in debt than regret not taking the one I wanted and being disappointed with my decision just because of a financial problem I know money is a problem but if you can raise you pice ranged do it.
Yep, that thought has definitely crossed our minds. It’s definitely a balance between not sacrificing what we want in a home and not making ourselves “boat poor”. We’ll see!
Leopard 46ft 2009 at Saint Martin £372,671
Decent price for one of those right now.
Do cats like this one have bow thrusters?
Not typically. With the twin engines, they’re extremely maneuverable already. The really huge cats I think they do though.
Remember...catamaran double the expenses on everything....mooring...double price...service ..double price....you got an idea...everything double ups....but if you got what it takes to sail a catamaran...Happy sailing ⛵️ 😉 👌
Thanks for watching! In a lot of ways, yes, double, but not all. Marinas have found ways to accommodate cats these days for about 50% more…pretty much the same for bailouts, etc. I do hate the idea of two motors to service though. Hopefully it’s worth the benefits!
Have you looked in Europe, Asia, the Mediterranean? I've heard you might find one there.
Hey, don't be afraid to make ridiculous offers. Sometime people have haven't had any offers in months and they just decide let's get rid of this boat cause we may not get another offer. You just never know. I hope you find just the one you are lookimg for soon.
Nothing wrong with a low offer but i
I'm under the impression there's a very high demand for catamarans. I'm sure you've noticed some of the popular RUclipsrs have sold their boats are having trouble finding a replacement
We have thought about those locations, but moving from one Boat to another, the logistics would just be too much. Regarding offers though, I think there are some that low offers could work on, but they’re more the older fixer uppers. The more ready to go boats are in very high demand.
O Kelly’s 46 leopard is for sale. Sailing Clarity
Great boat!
Sold a whole ago
Oh, apart from the obvious. I would simply like to know are you thinking about a Trimaran at all?
Really wish we could! The Neel 51 is amazing, just way out of reach price wise.
Sailing Curiosity is for sale
Nice boat!
guys -- dont do hurricane damaged boats. look at the bali catspace. you need a 40-42 footer.
Generally that’s good advice. Those Moorings boats however, with the extreme list of reconditioning items they go through, are truly in better shape than one of the same age that was never damaged. There are some nice boats in the 40-42’ range and we’ve spent a lot of time on them, but we really need the space of mid-40s or larger for our needs.
And Bali’s have no trampolines, so they’re right out. Lol
@@SailAwayVlog you dont need the space -- you want the spce. i get it but you are putting yourself in a giant financial hole. a boat costs 10% annually in maint. a mid 40 is a million $ new. 10% of that is a huge amount to spend and it only goes up as the boat ages.
Thanks for the concern, but we’ve owned boats for 25 years and lived on this one for 3, so we’re very aware of costs and what we need in a next boat. I think you may have missed some details…we’re not buying new, we’re buying used, and at this stage of the search under $400k. We explained our space needs a couple videos back when we announced our boat for sale.
I have always heard the opposite and that moorings boats were worn out junk.
Lagoon 420
Those are nice! The short waterline concerns me a little for sailing but I’ve heard good things about the layout.
If you would like to get into a boat like this that is out of your price range. I may be able to show you how. Send some contact info if you are interested.
I'm sure you find the perfect one in time
Thanks! Hopefully I have the patience!
Having bought a 48 a year ago I can only tell you „go get it - the market‘s already dry“. BTW: Are you sure they‘ve showed you the right boat? Is the HIN really ending with 414?
Why don’t you call them twin hulls?
Hmmm…no idea!
All boats are compromises. You need a category for how much you will have to spend to add stuff like solar etc. You said nothing about the standing rigging. Big $ spend to rerig.
Yeah we’ll have to talk more about that stuff. Just rating these boats from a baseline is one thing…for our purposes that stuff is very much a part of the equation.
Talk to Saing Sisu .
And the Barefoot doctors..
You are safe and have all-round weather protection. The front cockpit is a brilliant space to actually have available.
Just write the cheque, worry about it later !!!
Lol…I’m pretty good at that! Doesn’t always work out well…
Beware of the bulkheads in leopards. There are to many documented cases of bulkhead not just cracks but complete failure. If sailed gently probably be ok. Just beware.
I think you’re talking about Lagoons, right? I’ve never heard of bulkhead issues in Leopards. They’re generally considered very well built.
Right now all cats are over priced and everyone is trying to get rid of them now that the prices are so high on them . In about a year the bottom of the market is going to drop out of the cat market and you won't be able to give them away .
Once you cat you won’t go back.
I have a feeling you’re right. ;-)
They don't make a boat that I feel is suficiant to be honet in design. I call it cake. Have you seen a boat with broken bulk heads, and failed members that are dangerous to trust? They add weight that is heavy and weak. Just consider aluminum. It weights 166 pounds a cubic. if you pulled tention on it it would fail at 4,300,000 pounds the same weight of bamboo would fail at 35,300,000. Bamboo is light and very strong . Why put any wood in a boat that is for show? Aluminum is 30,000 psi, and bamboo is 28,000 psi and the bamboo weight weigts 20 pounds. bamboo is a grass.