Aero makes some really good stuff and I own multiple products. However, their customer service is the worst I have ever seen experienced with any company. Good luck getting a hold of someone there, and if you somehow do, they will run you around and not fix the issue.
I’ll never purchase anything from them again. I ordered this upper almost 3 months ago and have never even got as much as a confirmation email let alone a response to my 17 emails or 19 calls. I love their products but I’ll never buy anything directly from them again. Which sucks
I will only buy their regular M4E1 lowers for $90 or less because they can be made to be snug with JP oversized pins and the screw it has. Their stuff has gotten super bad. When you have a new aero factory 16” 5.56 that’s harder shooting than a LMT 13.5 308 with a flash hider, your gun just plain sucks, and their guns suck bad. In not had an issue with their customer service however. Tho it’s pretty annoying that I had a lower shoe pin run not in the right spot or the trigger well not complete, or the worst one, the selector detent not being drilled. Aero QC is trash.
Just a shame that aero as a company is going to shit. Their customer service (if you even want to call it that) is absolute shit. I’ve been waiting a month for a replacement scope mount while others have been waiting MONTHS for orders that were placed as “in stock”. People get hung up on, kicked out of the chat bot, no email tickets returned. It’s absolutely not okay. I will not be buying anything from aero anymore, neither should any of you if yall ever expect to see the shit you ordered. Good luck.
@ it really is just a shame though. Quite honestly, I’m not even sure I want to replace my current aero build with aero parts even from elsewhere. I no longer thing they need my support lol
I’ve been waiting since oct 22 for my Halloween build kit. Said it would ship in Nov. finally got thru on their bullshit chat , was told end of Nov. did another 2 hr wait again on their bullshit chat session. Was told they upgraded my shipping and will ship this week. I just laughed and typed back what the fuck ! Ever !!! I will continue to buy their stuff. But never never from them.
I actually ordered one of these uppers over 2 1/2 months ago and never received it. Aero has the worst customer service in the gun world. Here as of late they take peoples money and go 2/3 months without updates or any communication. I’m actually in the process of filing a claim to have my payment reversed because of the lack of anything whatsoever. This is after 19 calls and 17 emails with zero response or communication. I love their products but will never purchase anything again from aero directly, just know not to expect whatever you order anytime soon if you got plans for something. Plan it for next year when they actually have the products built they are advertising for sale on there websites. Merry Christmas
Nice preview, always like your vids. Us leftys appreciate ambi controls, we're few but it is a thing. I'm ambitious myself from years of carpentry & turning wrenchs but I lost sight in my right eye (damn lazers)so kinda mandatory left hand shooter.
I just conpleated a build a couple days before Aero came out with the pro handguards, i had used a geissele handguard because of the QD's, i wasnt to happy to see it! I ciulda saved some cha ching amd got the aero pro, i love aero products.
Bought a complete 300 BO M4E1 16" Enhanced upper from optics planet in FDE during the pistol brace shit-sandwhich and bought a complete FDE M4E1 lower direct from Aero. No complaints. Best fitting upper and lower i have. Ordered from their respective websites - no customer service contacts. Shipping was fast and easy. No complaints.
Just picked up the Ambi lower and MOD 4 handguard. They're definitely nice, but I don't think they're priced accordingly. The full PRO series rifles are $1699.99. You can get an LWRC M6IC DI for around $1500, sometimes less when they're on sale. I can imagine anyone rational person opting for an Aero at a higher price point over an LWRC with all the same features.
Damn, $1700? This rifle does not bring ANYTHING to the table outside a "standard" AR (there's hundreds of them) sold for about $800-$1k except ambi controls, unless I'm missing something? Is this the same quality as a JP or something?
I’ve heard a couple times to never order from aero directly, apparently terrible customer service and ship times. I bought my aero lower through primary arms and got it normal time for an ffl item
@ should have done that myself, but Aero had a sale going on that was too hard to pass up. Hopefully my kids or grand kids will get to enjoy it at this rate lol
@@joemiller410 I havent checked their site in forever but from what I see the price is always cheaper on ar15discounts I only look at stripped lowers so could be different if youre buying complete lower
You're awesome man. Still loving all your content. I always trip on your pocket reloads and this vid gave me a chuckle. I agree with you on the cross platform compatibility. I've always wondered why train on something so unique? anyway, I dig Aero's products and even though I don't need another rifle, I find their green anodized sets super sexy. on top of that, been looking at one of their older Enhanced hand guards that have a pretty massive 1.7" I.D. So I can run a can under it.
Do NOT buy from Aero, there is no customer service, support, nothing except they will charge your credit card. 30 days after ordering non FFL in stock items….crickets. You have been warned 🔥
This is true. I placed an order for 4 items months ago and they are still trickling them out to me one at a time with no notification and no response to inquiries. I bought a barrel/handguard combo and they shipped the barrel alone (a month later) with an invoice showing both items. Still waiting on the handguard. They charged my CC for everything at the time of purchase, which is a sketchy business practice. Never again.
This is unfortunately true. I ordered a Solus and got it eventually, but before that finding out when, tracking number, etc., was impossible. Zero customer service.
DAMN, thanks for the warning, I bought a lower from a local shop. I was on the fence about completing the upper with all Aero parts, I decided to go with BCM parts, it cost a bit more, but at least I did not have to deal with horrible customer service!
Ambi controls, at least from my perspective, have a couple categories they fall under. The mirrored ping pong paddle is great for lefties, but doesn't do great when trying to maintain firing hand grip with quicker reloads. The button/lever style controls are better suited for those manipulations.
Side Note : Don't send the bolt home on a laser bore sight either. ALWAYS and ONLY slowly place the bolt home gently to hold that booger in place. The extractor won't. Don't ask me about the hour it took to remove the cheap thin metal jammed into the bore.
Is there any reason, aside from habit, after reload drill to then drop the magazine in to replace it with the magazine that was dropped? Why not just start with the inserted mag and change out to the other? I.e. started with poly, dropped poly - inserted aluminum. Then to run same drill dropped aluminum and went back to poly before even starting. Why not just start with aluminum then reload to poly? Am I missing something or is it just habit? the punk rock music selections. Grew up with it myself and still my favorite. My 15yr old son's, too.
About the ambi... locking the bolt to the rear is the reason for me as a righty. I still use the left side safety, charging handle, and bolt release with my left hand. Nobody is making you use the right side bolt release. As long as it isn’t getting in the way or making the gun malfunction, who cares?
If so how does it work? Good stuff? Seems pretty smart honestly, and I wouldn't mind getting locked into Aeros front end ecosystem. Incredible value, in my experience.
Perhaps Aero should make a wider or more pronounced ambi bolt release? Neat concept that looks well executed. I'm still waiting on the 10mm PCC though 😢
I love the upper, lower, and handguard, but upgraded to JP Enhanced upper & lower kits and bolt. Makes for a screaming machine. Seriously. Try it if you have spare cash.
I was looking at these lowers but I struggle to see why it costs almost as much as the LMT mars L lower that is also full ambi and has all the ambi components included, the Aero only has the bolt catch. In fairness they are on sale right now and end up somewhat cheeper but the msrp for these is 330 for a striped lower and a bolt catch, the LMT is 380 but also has the safety and mag release included.
@markreynolds6715 also a better option, but I've decided against building for the time being, mostly because lwrc checked all the boxes I cared about with the IC DI MLOK
The new handguards are nice! The Ambi lower I can do without. More parts, more chances for something to go wrong & break. Only thing Ambi on at I want is charging handles
For the lower the LMT sure beats it for price per features whole rifle, not really but I doubt the whole rifle does well compared to other $1500 uppers
I hate anti-rotation QD sockets. They cause the sling to catch on everything and bunch up everywhere. I prefer having a qd that rotates with the rifle as you bring up the rifle. Thin chamber flags are annoying. I do like steel or stainless inserts for the qd. The qd's on my ancient geissele handguard have finally pulled out. So, it does happen. I am having it fixed up with a new stainless insert after they weld in a threaded insert. It's going to cost more than a new handguard but I have an emotional attachment to that handguard. I have been through a bunch of matches, classes and shooting with it and it was given to me by a friend I deployed with 4 times and he is no longer with us. I'll pick one of these up when they are available, hopefully in a nice laguna Blue to match my night hunting 6mm arc Rifle.
Owning a gun should come with a weight limit. If you can’t run 100 yards without being out of breath you are not fit (no pun intended) to own a firearm.
Never understood why Ar-15s were already fully ambi i use to think they were when i was a kid but our military is literally trained to shoot with both hands why wouldn’t companies make their weapons ambi?
I wish they would have had the drilled out pic rail like the R-One (aesthetic and tactile difference). Very frustrating to me, as it's something, along with the scalloping, that I lovvve about the R-One. Add that, and I'd not buy another handguard.
I'm trapped behind enemy lines in a shit state so I don't get to buy new AR's any longer. Do you not have to clean the factory crap out of a new rifle barrel before shooting now???? guess I'm old, clean a new firearm before 1st round. *shrug--
built a bunch of rifles using a M4E1 receiver set, might have to give these a try if they sell them independently. edit: oh dear god went and checked, $239 for the stripped lower
As a guy who is into firearms and owns alot of firearms, I have entered a new realm of what I can only call "AR burn out." They are all just another AR at this point. Nothing special, nothing new, just another AR.
Massive disappointment... they chose THE WORST style of ambi controls and ultimately just made a WILDLY overpriced lower that's no better (and actually WORSE for the money) then the original M4E1 receivers are.
Just so everyone knows - Aero is dealing with a complete shit-show in Washington state. I hope they say F-the commies and move to Idaho or Montana. It's a miracle they're still in business.
You can find links to everything here : kitbadger.com/1st-look-aero-precision-m4e1-pro/
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why didnt you just take kit out with you if you knew you were testing a weapon
Honestly this is the first video I've seen of the M4E1 Pro series outside of Shot Show. Thank you for posting this.
Honestly, there are multiple.
@@AJohnSmith Where? Inquiring minds are dying to know about we can find said videos.
There are literally videos everywhere of the things. They're not worth the hype. Terrible ambi controls, save your money and go ADM or Griffin.
I love your video's chill outdoor vibes you remind me of my skiing friends. No crazy edits, no Instagram shots, just a microphone in a nice setting.
This is the first product review that I'm learning of a new product while also being excited!
Looking forward to the AR 10 version!!
Aero makes some really good stuff and I own multiple products. However, their customer service is the worst I have ever seen experienced with any company. Good luck getting a hold of someone there, and if you somehow do, they will run you around and not fix the issue.
I’ll never purchase anything from them again. I ordered this upper almost 3 months ago and have never even got as much as a confirmation email let alone a response to my 17 emails or 19 calls. I love their products but I’ll never buy anything directly from them again. Which sucks
Truer words have never been spoken!
I will only buy their regular M4E1 lowers for $90 or less because they can be made to be snug with JP oversized pins and the screw it has. Their stuff has gotten super bad. When you have a new aero factory 16” 5.56 that’s harder shooting than a LMT 13.5 308 with a flash hider, your gun just plain sucks, and their guns suck bad. In not had an issue with their customer service however. Tho it’s pretty annoying that I had a lower shoe pin run not in the right spot or the trigger well not complete, or the worst one, the selector detent not being drilled. Aero QC is trash.
Just a shame that aero as a company is going to shit. Their customer service (if you even want to call it that) is absolute shit. I’ve been waiting a month for a replacement scope mount while others have been waiting MONTHS for orders that were placed as “in stock”. People get hung up on, kicked out of the chat bot, no email tickets returned. It’s absolutely not okay. I will not be buying anything from aero anymore, neither should any of you if yall ever expect to see the shit you ordered. Good luck.
This is what happens when companies are bought out. I don't want to go on a rant, but it's incredibly predictable across the board
@ it really is just a shame though. Quite honestly, I’m not even sure I want to replace my current aero build with aero parts even from elsewhere. I no longer thing they need my support lol
I’ve been waiting since oct 22 for my Halloween build kit. Said it would ship in Nov. finally got thru on their bullshit chat , was told end of Nov. did another 2 hr wait again on their bullshit chat session. Was told they upgraded my shipping and will ship this week. I just laughed and typed back what the fuck ! Ever !!! I will continue to buy their stuff. But never never from them.
I actually ordered one of these uppers over 2 1/2 months ago and never received it. Aero has the worst customer service in the gun world. Here as of late they take peoples money and go 2/3 months without updates or any communication. I’m actually in the process of filing a claim to have my payment reversed because of the lack of anything whatsoever. This is after 19 calls and 17 emails with zero response or communication. I love their products but will never purchase anything again from aero directly, just know not to expect whatever you order anytime soon if you got plans for something. Plan it for next year when they actually have the products built they are advertising for sale on there websites. Merry Christmas
that spring is loud af
No service, no sale!
It's as simple as that.
Your style of gun reviews is by far the best on RUclips
Nice preview, always like your vids.
Us leftys appreciate ambi controls, we're few but it is a thing. I'm ambitious myself from years of carpentry & turning wrenchs but I lost sight in my right eye (damn lazers)so kinda mandatory left hand shooter.
I just conpleated a build a couple days before Aero came out with the pro handguards, i had used a geissele handguard because of the QD's, i wasnt to happy to see it! I ciulda saved some cha ching amd got the aero pro, i love aero products.
Those complete lowers are gonna be sold out until 2026😮💨😮💨
Facts
Get a stripped one and build it out
Currently in stock. $455.
Can get an LMT or Radian ambi lower for the same amount of money. Griffin and PWS ambi lowers can be found cheaper.
I got one right before blk Friday for 35% off on aero.
😱 omg Ivan upload it’s a good day
Bought a complete 300 BO M4E1 16" Enhanced upper from optics planet in FDE during the pistol brace shit-sandwhich and bought a complete FDE M4E1 lower direct from Aero. No complaints. Best fitting upper and lower i have. Ordered from their respective websites - no customer service contacts. Shipping was fast and easy. No complaints.
Ambi controls are most advantageous for lefties tbh. good review.
Love Aero precision parts.
Thanks for the honest review, I am a big ambi fan because I like practicing left and right.
Just picked up the Ambi lower and MOD 4 handguard. They're definitely nice, but I don't think they're priced accordingly. The full PRO series rifles are $1699.99. You can get an LWRC M6IC DI for around $1500, sometimes less when they're on sale. I can imagine anyone rational person opting for an Aero at a higher price point over an LWRC with all the same features.
Damn, $1700? This rifle does not bring ANYTHING to the table outside a "standard" AR (there's hundreds of them) sold for about $800-$1k except ambi controls, unless I'm missing something? Is this the same quality as a JP or something?
Ordered a complete pro lower last month on the eighth… Still waiting for it. May end up canceling the order if we get to the new year.
I’ve heard a couple times to never order from aero directly, apparently terrible customer service and ship times. I bought my aero lower through primary arms and got it normal time for an ffl item
@ should have done that myself, but Aero had a sale going on that was too hard to pass up. Hopefully my kids or grand kids will get to enjoy it at this rate lol
@@joemiller410 I havent checked their site in forever but from what I see the price is always cheaper on ar15discounts
I only look at stripped lowers so could be different if youre buying complete lower
Cancel and get an LMT for $300 next sale they run
You're awesome man. Still loving all your content. I always trip on your pocket reloads and this vid gave me a chuckle. I agree with you on the cross platform compatibility. I've always wondered why train on something so unique? anyway, I dig Aero's products and even though I don't need another rifle, I find their green anodized sets super sexy. on top of that, been looking at one of their older Enhanced hand guards that have a pretty massive 1.7" I.D. So I can run a can under it.
Do NOT buy from Aero, there is no customer service, support, nothing except they will charge your credit card. 30 days after ordering non FFL in stock items….crickets. You have been warned 🔥
This is true. I placed an order for 4 items months ago and they are
still trickling them out to me one at a time with no notification and no response to inquiries. I bought a barrel/handguard combo and they shipped the barrel alone (a month later) with an invoice showing both items. Still waiting on the handguard. They charged my CC for everything at the time of purchase, which is a sketchy business practice. Never again.
@ Yes basically they are stealing from customers…..
True , aero is on a downward spiral. Ordered a solus a month ago , charged me instantly but haven't even sent it yet
This is unfortunately true. I ordered a Solus and got it eventually, but before that finding out when, tracking number, etc., was impossible. Zero customer service.
DAMN, thanks for the warning, I bought a lower from a local shop. I was on the fence about completing the upper with all Aero parts, I decided to go with BCM parts, it cost a bit more, but at least I did not have to deal with horrible customer service!
I like the Griffin Armament lower ambi controls better. More streamlined and out of the way of that dust cover. This is a nice setup though.
Bam exactly!
What kind of magazine base plate / pad is that with the grip texture on it @ 14:43 ?
Should've done a few reps with malfunction clearing; typically a major use case for ambi.
What tripod is that?
These stripped lowers should have been way cheaper. Griffin lower is 209 on PA right now while this aero is almost 300.
Ambi controls, at least from my perspective, have a couple categories they fall under. The mirrored ping pong paddle is great for lefties, but doesn't do great when trying to maintain firing hand grip with quicker reloads. The button/lever style controls are better suited for those manipulations.
Ivan does it snow year round where you live??? lol
Side Note : Don't send the bolt home on a laser bore sight either. ALWAYS and ONLY slowly place the bolt home gently to hold that booger in place. The extractor won't. Don't ask me about the hour it took to remove the cheap thin metal jammed into the bore.
I'm gonna have to get the receiver set when they're not sold out
Wait, when was there sun AND snow in N Idaho this year?
Aero P has great tools. 🔨 🇺🇸 🦅
Unless I move out of Washington ill never he able to get the new lowers. That reload from the pocket was smooth ahah
Is there any reason, aside from habit, after reload drill to then drop the magazine in to replace it with the magazine that was dropped? Why not just start with the inserted mag and change out to the other? I.e. started with poly, dropped poly - inserted aluminum. Then to run same drill dropped aluminum and went back to poly before even starting. Why not just start with aluminum then reload to poly? Am I missing something or is it just habit?
the punk rock music selections. Grew up with it myself and still my favorite. My 15yr old son's, too.
Will they do the same with their M5 lowers?
About the ambi... locking the bolt to the rear is the reason for me as a righty. I still use the left side safety, charging handle, and bolt release with my left hand. Nobody is making you use the right side bolt release. As long as it isn’t getting in the way or making the gun malfunction, who cares?
Does this have the enhanced handguard attachment setup? With the mount built into the upper?
If so how does it work? Good stuff? Seems pretty smart honestly, and I wouldn't mind getting locked into Aeros front end ecosystem. Incredible value, in my experience.
What jacket brand?
ok what makes this better or different than the other thousand AR variants on the market?
Bad lever still king
Perhaps Aero should make a wider or more pronounced ambi bolt release? Neat concept that looks well executed.
I'm still waiting on the 10mm PCC though 😢
I love the upper, lower, and handguard, but upgraded to JP Enhanced upper & lower kits and bolt. Makes for a screaming machine. Seriously. Try it if you have spare cash.
I was looking at these lowers but I struggle to see why it costs almost as much as the LMT mars L lower that is also full ambi and has all the ambi components included, the Aero only has the bolt catch.
In fairness they are on sale right now and end up somewhat cheeper but the msrp for these is 330 for a striped lower and a bolt catch, the LMT is 380 but also has the safety and mag release included.
Griffin armament ambi 219 retail. Forged and I think it's the same design as adm. Good reviews.
@markreynolds6715 also a better option, but I've decided against building for the time being, mostly because lwrc checked all the boxes I cared about with the IC DI MLOK
Why would a magpul stock be dissapointing?
This or Daniel defense ambi lower? Price aside?
Neither, LMT
The new handguards are nice! The Ambi lower I can do without. More parts, more chances for something to go wrong & break. Only thing Ambi on at I want is charging handles
Oh boy...another AR introduced into an already oversaturated market...snore.
You might as well get an LMT or LWRC what they’re asking... Aero is forgetting their great value roots.
For the lower the LMT sure beats it for price per features whole rifle, not really but I doubt the whole rifle does well compared to other $1500 uppers
Awesome Ivan!! Nice reloads!
Love Aero Precision, high end for the poor.
They make lots of other OEM stuff for other companies. That’s a good sign
I hate anti-rotation QD sockets. They cause the sling to catch on everything and bunch up everywhere. I prefer having a qd that rotates with the rifle as you bring up the rifle. Thin chamber flags are annoying. I do like steel or stainless inserts for the qd. The qd's on my ancient geissele handguard have finally pulled out. So, it does happen. I am having it fixed up with a new stainless insert after they weld in a threaded insert. It's going to cost more than a new handguard but I have an emotional attachment to that handguard. I have been through a bunch of matches, classes and shooting with it and it was given to me by a friend I deployed with 4 times and he is no longer with us. I'll pick one of these up when they are available, hopefully in a nice laguna Blue to match my night hunting 6mm arc Rifle.
I use AP in most of my AR builds 😅
Did you move or still in Washington State? Im guessing you moved
I like ambi bolt catch/release setups and ambi safeties but I really hate ambi magazine releases.
lock??? you mean hanging target, right???
That handguard is legit. I just picked one up and it's gonna give bcm and alot of other high end companies that start with a G a run for their money
Owning a gun should come with a weight limit. If you can’t run 100 yards without being out of breath you are not fit (no pun intended) to own a firearm.
Aero does not support their products worth a _hit. I have spent hours just trying to get a return call on an OOB on the EPC 9mm ... so long WASTATE.
Maybe it’s just me but that thing looks SUPER punchy. Does it feel over gassed?
Never understood why Ar-15s were already fully ambi i use to think they were when i was a kid but our military is literally trained to shoot with both hands why wouldn’t companies make their weapons ambi?
I wish they would have had the drilled out pic rail like the R-One (aesthetic and tactile difference). Very frustrating to me, as it's something, along with the scalloping, that I lovvve about the R-One. Add that, and I'd not buy another handguard.
I don't think they will change the design based on one persons request. They did it this way because its what the majority of people were asking for.
Noice
Laser bore sighting
🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
I loath ambidextrous controls.
For us defective people that tend to use the left arm more, I appreciate the option.
Why is it so expensive
Why are you reloading in the high ready with an ambi lower? I'm sure muscle memory....
I think I would have just put the magazine in my waistband but that's just me.
I'm trapped behind enemy lines in a shit state so I don't get to buy new AR's any longer. Do you not have to clean the factory crap out of a new rifle barrel before shooting now????
guess I'm old, clean a new firearm before 1st round. *shrug--
I'm dying to work for Aero since I live in West Seattle. Hopefully soon!
Don’t die.
They need customer service , you can start there
Regular lower $90
Pro lower $280 😅
Will a loud trigger reset get me killed in da streetz?
built a bunch of rifles using a M4E1 receiver set, might have to give these a try if they sell them independently.
edit: oh dear god went and checked, $239 for the stripped lower
The Reddit special
Wrote this while pooping
There's gonna be poop particles on your ear next time you answer a call lol.
@ I mean, my wife already says I have poop between my ears
*...and they cant even sell them in their own state.*
Bad lever is better
As a guy who is into firearms and owns alot of firearms, I have entered a new realm of what I can only call "AR burn out." They are all just another AR at this point. Nothing special, nothing new, just another AR.
Massive disappointment... they chose THE WORST style of ambi controls and ultimately just made a WILDLY overpriced lower that's no better (and actually WORSE for the money) then the original M4E1 receivers are.
Just so everyone knows - Aero is dealing with a complete shit-show in Washington state. I hope they say F-the commies and move to Idaho or Montana. It's a miracle they're still in business.
Care to share more details?
Bro... Much love but... You are DRY. I struggle to get through your videos because you are so monotone.
Your brain on tiktok:
So I'm notaure what to think