Valve Goes Hard: Steam Deck OLED Review & Benchmarks vs. ASUS ROG Ally Z1 Extreme, Deck LCD
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This deep-dive review of the Steam Deck OLED goes in-depth for gaming benchmarks, thermal testing, battery life of the Steam Deck OLD, LCD, and ASUS ROG Ally, and more. Testing primarily focuses on the Steam Deck LCD, Steam Deck OLED, and the Z1 Extreme edition of the ASUS ROG Ally. We're still building-out charts of this brand new market, so we hope to next add the Lenovo Legion Go. The non-Extreme Z1 has already been through our testing and is linked below. As a first for our handheld test suite, we added total end-to-end system latency benchmarking as well! This testing will also help answer questions about the differences between the Steam Deck OLED and LCD hardware.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - The Deck OLED Major Changes
02:21 - Steam Deck OLED vs. LCD vs. ROG Ally Z1 Extreme
04:52 - Game Testing Methodology Notes
06:52 - Red Dead Redemption 2 Benchmarks
07:35 - Dying Light 2 Handheld Gaming Benchmarks
08:16 - Frametimes of ROG Ally Z1 Extreme vs. Deck OLED
09:04 - F1 Gaming Benchmarks
09:35 - Cyberpunk 2077 Steam Deck Benchmarks
10:23 - Resident Evil 4 Gaming Benchmarks
11:03 - Baldur's Gate 3 Benchmarks
12:00 - Latency (Total System): Steam Deck OLED vs Ally
14:30 - Latency Benchmarks (Hollow Knight)
15:37 - Latency Benchmarks (Dying Light 2)
16:55 - Handheld Battery Life Methodology
17:44 - Video Playback Battery Life on Steam Deck OLED
18:06 - 2D Gaming Battery Life (Dead Cells)
18:54 - 3D Gaming Battery Life (F1, No Cap)
19:46 - Battery Charging Time Benchmark (Deck & Ally)
22:07 - Thermal Testing: Deck OLED vs. LCD
23:21 - Noise Levels & Acoustic Testing
24:59 - Conclusion: Steam Deck OLED or Ally Worth It
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hey do you have testing with FreeSync on the ally? I mean wouldn't that be a reason you would even consider the rog ally that and the landscape display ?
Hey Steve, Got a question for you, Which would you Buy, The Be Quiet 360 AIO or the Liquid Freezer III? And What are the Temp Differences, The only thing that stuck out at me for the BeQuiets, Pure Loops are the Regular Fans and The Be Quiet Silent are the Silent Wing Fans??? Maybe you could do a Review and Comparison? Lastly, Can you get by with a Good Air Cool when Undervolting a 5800X or X#D when under volting to keep Pwr draw down? Cheers. R.M.
The OLED does clip the highlights in HDR mode when going above 75% on the brightness slider, so maybe there's some software oddities causing the crashes in the battery tests.
you say yourself that average fps aren't that important. maybe you start ranking everything now by the 1% fps
Please do a review on the Framework 16. Notebooks might not be your usual thing, but whom else shall we trust in judging if quality in notebooks is back with this?
"Competition." This was Valve's plan all along- They wanted a flashpoint where handheld PCs would become a thing. Why? Because now you can buy more STEAM games to play on the go. They played it smart, and they're reaping the rewards.
Agreed!
Exactly. Simple and effective, they did handheld RIGHT and marketed it better than anyone, because other similar devices have existed before the deck but none of them had the marketing or the price down, on top of having some annoying problems.
Steam came in with a better package, dedicated OS, and half the price of the competition.
Absolutely! Valve is selling products yes, but they're also making a market. Competition is good for everyone..especially the person who owns the main service those products use regardless of the platform.
Basically. Also giving Nintendo a massive, gigantic, colossal middle finger is a nice added bonus imo. Thank you Lord Gaben for this boon.
@@mortal465 As much as I think Valve got a massive W here, I don't think this affects Nintendo at all. These handheld PCs are still PCs. If I'm a regular dude who wants to play Nintendo games and doesn't know how or doesn't want to tinker to make stuff work, I'm not gonna buy a Deck or an ROG Ally instead of a Switch.
I like how you label this as a "mega review" as if you aren't always dropping 30 minute valuable info dumps on us every other day
Haha, we appreciate that you notice! This one was tough since it had so many different kinds of tests. Adding latency, thermals, and acoustics is a lot more work for us than more game charts!
@@GamersNexus it was a solid video! Looking forward to more handheld stuff!!
@@GamersNexus next long 35min+ you should cut in the old movie refreshments cartoon. With the candy, soda and popcorn "let's all go to the lobby. To get ourselves a treat!". -- officially known as Technicolor Refreshment Trailer No. 1--- There is an actual intermission specific cartoon, drive-ins played, but it's like 10min long 😜
Steam goes hard? Yeah that's called ice
Well played
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I'm a bit more partial to sniffing the exhaust vents on the Steam Deck, better smells imo.
We'll buy aroma testing equipment.
@@GamersNexus Make sure you refer to it in testing as "Smell-O-Vision"
I actually get a headache from the smell, can't imagine it being even worse on the ally
@@GamersNexus make sure to use the "special thermal paste" 😉
@@GamersNexus a fart will be the baseline 🤢🤮
Oh, also, after the Legion Go, what handheld do you all want us to test next?
Super high end handheld
Seems like it is Ayaneo 2S?
MSI Claw...
odin 2?
The original 80's Gameboy!
The ally non extreme
For the work Valve is doing with proton and dxvk for linux gaming its the deck for me any day.
Yeah, I got the Deck OLED and think it's the best current option. It's so nice not having Windows.
I'm hoping the Deck 2 when it comes out has USB5 egpu support.
Yep, it's like a small donation to Linux development.
I tell people all the time that if they are wondering what Valve is actually doing, it's being an OS developer. Linux is now a viable OS for PC gaming and the Steam Deck is pretty much a perfect "demo" platform for Proton OS
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I'd argue the Steam Deck is kinda (almost) a perfect entry now for anybody to PC gaming if you're already a console gamer.
All you need to do is sign into an account, buy the game and install. I know it's not (yet) as streamlined as a console, but for a PC it is by far the best point of entry.
@@user-ds8rj2vc4vEven emulation is ridiculously easy for the most part. Only gets (minorly) complicated with bios files for more modern consoles.
Yeah, I got myself a Steam Deck OLED a couple weeks back and I am absolutely LOVING it!
Just ordered one today can’t wait to start playing
@@Talon18136 lol me too, just bought one today and can't wait to get it 😊
I bought a legion go and I am loving it! 😊
I hope you guys make content for many years to come. Thank you for everything that you do in the tech space!
Thank you! We will keep going!
It's actually crazy how Valve was just like "fuck it" and released a very good handheld PC that's still pretty competitive with newer competitors 2 years later, just with some minor upgrades
It's a very Valve thing to do, we're just lucky we're getting more than just the 1st steam deck, Typically they drop something amazing then disappear never to be seen in that market again
They legitimized this market. 2 years ago everyone was debating if it made sense. Now there's a ton of both less powerful and more powerful devices. I think the value proposition of the steam deck still makes it king for many. I think it has also propelled the market of handheld emulation. Products like the retroid pocket 4 pro are less powerful and smaller, but cross some of the same market segment while Ayaneo basically makes roided up handheld PCs for 2-3x the price of a deck.
For me the problem with the Ally and other "high-end" handhelds is that they don't really have anything you would want a handheld for, they're essentially bound to a charging port because of the extra power and that extra power isn't used for a majority of games on Steam... if anything to compete with the deck one of the less powerful options would make a better handheld imo. Like one of the gameboy knock-offs.
@@XrayTheMyth23 yeah u can really tell a lot of these competitors do not understand handheld gaming at all and they're just tryna cash in on big impressive looking numbers without understanding what makes handheld good, and if my handheld can barely last an hour on it's "full power" mode what's the point?
But on the other hand i can see something like the Asus one being a desktop replacement for relatively cheap that u hookup to some peripherals maybe, so who knows
Actually yes. The battery life should be the most important and highlighted test.
At least for me there's one more big advantage of the Steam Deck compared to the Ally: The trackpads. I know many players more or less ignore them on the Deck, but I think they're a godsent and make so many more titles playable on the go, particularly strategy and simulation games through mouse input or custom menus to access extra key bindings.
They also make actually navigating a desktop 1000% more usable
@@Liquifiedpizzasand dual thumb pad typing is surprisingly intuitive.
Being left handed having 2 of them is even better, especially combind with 4 back buttons
Not just for desktop mode and strategy games. Set the right pad to "As Mouse", raise the horizontal sensitivity (lower the vertical scale) and in many people's experience (including mine) you get control far superior to stick, especially without aim assist.Trackpad + gyro on the Deck feels extremely mouselike once you get used to it.
Yeah, for certain games, I'd say they'd be unplayable without track pads on a handheld.
I thought Steam Deck OLED was a bit of a BS money grab upgrade. Then I bought one and it’s fucking brilliant. I’ve had mine for about three weeks and still, every so often I look at it, smile to myself that it’s just so brilliant. It just goes to show that an intelligently, well made and use friendly product is better than just going “MAX POWER” regardless of anything else.
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I really cant see how you would think it was a money grab upgrade when they dropped LCD price and kept OLED at that price. It's not Valve's fault that gamers have hella FOMO...
Bro i've put aside some money for a hand held console and i can't come to a decision between rog and steam deck oled just because i can't play games outside the steam library without doing some over the top adjustments. Im not a hardcore gamer by any means but i would like to jump on COD every now and then , then switch to BG3 later on lol
I knew OLED was something special as far back as the Vita. Poor bastard Vita >.
yeah that's what people who never had OLED would say lol.
It just perfects it. My first reservation on the Deck, when it launched, was the obviously lame display. I could tell it was very lacking just by seeing it through videos. Cameras don't capture what the eyes can see, they say, but in this case it sure did.
Just look the more recent comparisons, one is brilliant through the lens, the other looks like a chinese toy screen.
Ive been waiting for this review so much, that i clicked immediately lol. Love your work Steve!!
Thanks for your patience on this one!
why? he mentioned nothing new and theres literally zero content thats worth watching that isnt already out there to make an informed decision
@@0nemanartis430 why? because we're supporting our friend Steve
@@soapstone420supporting suplicate irrelevant content? ok
@@0nemanartis430 And yet you post irrelevant comments, don't be a loser and go back to 4chan
Excellent breakdown, makes me very happy with my OLED. Also love the UI for your graphs having reverse loading bars along the side to indicate when the graph will change, -very- nice touch!
I absolutely love and appreciate the work you guys put into these tests. This blows all other videos I've looked at out of the water.
I love your energy in this. You look so excited and it just makes me excited as well
Having used both for a fair amount of time, I've found it just comes down to what OS you want to use.
I went with Ally so I can install different launchers, use game pass etc. Sure, you can do that with Deck but I'm not one to tinker.
8:19 This must be the flattest frame time graph in GN benchmarking history.
Steam Deck is the first gaming device I've ever had where you can run every game with no tearing and V-Sync off.
yeah, I would say that turning off VSync in the settings of the games will always give you a far better experience because it eliminates so much input latency. There are far better tools for syncing games to refresh rates on Linux. To a point that they make even 30fps somewhat tolerable
@@matthias6933 Woah woah woah I wouln't go as far as to run games at 30fps.
45fps though?
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Steamdeck OLED actually gets less input lag at 45fps than at 50fps so that's my lowest acceptable framerate.
I haven't played Elden Ring on the Deck yet though so that game might break my standards, we'll see.
(Most performance reviews are very close to 40fps at lowest graphics, I might actually bump down the resolution for this one if it can lock to 45fps.)
this review makes me really happy with my LCD steamdeck! it's still competitive despite not being on "the latest hardware" and it's just all-around an awesome addition to my games-on-the-go options
Same here, it might not be the "best" handheld but it just works
We'll convert Steve to being a Linux gamer soon enough...
Wendell will do his best!
One of us.
One of us!
One of us 🐧
Soon there will be dozens of us replying to this comment.
Mostly unrelated to this video, but I really want a "bigger number better" shirt. It's become one of my favorite quips/sayings over the past few months.
YES, please!
Thirded by me,
First shirt I’d buy
Bigger better
I need that
Like an eye exam with the whole quote. Somehow make it not cheesy, idk.
You have to consider that Valve is not only building an amazing device to play games on, but also has helped improving the software behind it so much, helping the entire Linux community. Even if Steam Deck had a much poorer performance, I'd still buy it just for that fact.
I bought one bc it seemed like the more polished device on the market as far as handheld computers and now that I have my hands on it that viewpoint was confirmed it’s easily the best bit of tech I’ve ever owned
This is such a good review! Excellent work, GN team, you've really knocked it out of the park and are continuing to show the review and benchmarking industry what good data driven reviews actually look like. Keep it up ❤❤❤
This channel is AMAZING. Thank you, guys!
Steam deck wins every time for me simply because it’s Steam OS and the integration around it. Microsoft simply doesn’t have a competing OS.
Steamdeck is like the Gameboy used to be. It was underpowered compared to the competition but always prevailed because it had good battery life and offered a consistent gaming experience.
I watched the teardown. Watched this. And will watch the legion go video. Really looking forward to that one
Well worth the wait, great review GN! 😀
The Steam Deck OLED is an INCREDIBLE starting place for designing the Steam Deck 2... tbh, as long as Valve keeps making Steam Decks every 2-3 years, I don't think I will be bothering with literally any other gaming hardware... its replaced my Xbox, Playstation, Switch and gaming PC and I haven't been happier.
Had my steam deck oled for less than a week now and I love this thing I’ve got most of the games I play on a daily basis in one spot now and it’s fantastic it has indeed replaced my Xbox as well as my switch lite as my new daily driver
I like mine but it can NEVER replace PC for me
Replace my gaming pc?...HOLD UP.
@@zweihander7465idk man. There’s something nice about the “switch” like experience that make it worth the hit for people like me who aren’t as picky
I like the painters tape with the arrows on it pointing at the SD Card so you hopefully don't crack the thing in half.
hahaha, one of the few to notice!
@@GamersNexus I very nearly did the same on mine when replacing the backplate. It's so easy to forget even if you'd opened them before. I made it my first thing on the to-do list before touching a single screw.
great video as always. love your in-depth video's keep up the great work
Hell yea, handhelds!! Can’t wait for the Legion Go video. Chunky boi just arrived last night!
The better framerates from the OLED version can also be from the APU itself. Using a smaller manufacturing node makes is use less energy. Which, in some scenarios, means it can reach higher clock rates. That is, at, say 12W, the 7nm one in the LCD version might run at 2.8GHz, while the 6nm one in the OLED might, at the same 12W, go to 3.1GHz.
The other thing is the Steam Deck thermal throttles like absolute hell, (another factor to why undervolting is so good here) so the OLED running cooler means it can maintain higher clocks for longer
I knew I wouldn't end up using it much but for $400 I'm really happy to support the start of this arms race for an incredibly cool form factor of pc's. Never thought so many companies would make competitors so fast.
Try using the deck for emulation. It hits a perfect performance point where it can pretty much seamlessly emulate up to PS2 and GC. There are now many dedicated emulation devices like the retroid pocket 4 pro or the Ayn Odin 2, but the steamdeck is overbuilt for it performance wise.
@@dogboy0912the thing is i dont have much usecase. I have a gaming PC with a nice big screen and a comfy chair.
When im outside, i do other stuff than gaming.
I think this product is more for people who have limited access to their main rig because of work distance, family, etc..
@@dogboy0912 i didnt use mine till i discovered this, now my kids steal it to play firered. lol
@@dogboy0912 Though for some more serious emulation for example PS3 with RPCS3, the Steam Deck unfortunately lacks a lot of CPU potential compared to the Z1 Extreme handhelds, unfortunately.
Great coverage of these devices. Thanks!
Great video!! Can't wait for the Lenovo vs MSI episode. Didn't know I wanted one of these......
I've been watching Gamer Nexus for a while, but I never subscribed until now. The reason I decided to subscribe was because of the mentioned acoustics. I've been a benefactor of this channel's diligent work for some time, and to know that they spent that much on a room just to measure sound, I feel like it's the least I can do (Jesus Christ). I'm also very happy that they're getting into the latency measurements.
What you guys do is appreciated🙏🙏
Thank you so much for the kind words!
During battery testing, could you swich from capping screen brighness at 50 percent to something better comparable? E.g. setting it to 250nits since screens differ in brightness?
This was great! Glad to hear a Legion Go is coming
Love my go. I haven’t used my deck since cause a bigger screen makes a really big difference
awesome, i've been waiting for this
I picked up an ROG Ally open box from best buy for $500. No regrets! I'm just thrilled there are so many good PC handheld options and a bright looking future for them
Ally literally cooks microSD
@@lino100x100 Definitely not, my micro sd was hotter in the deck than it is in the ally with it literally burning me to have it touch any skin inside the deck. At any rate, the Ally supports a 2280 mod where the deck does not so getting double or triple the maximum storage capacity AND performance of the deck for less money is fully possible, to say nothing of how absurd the gaming performance gains are in a 25w profile on a case by case basis.
@@ALmaN11223344a 2280 ssd needs aprox. 3W more battery. The battery time will decrease again.
I am with you; I like that there is choice. Although all of these "gamer only" fans can't imagine why they'd dock other than to play more games on a big screen. I use my docked Ally to live, like it's my main PC now too, my wife uses the other. We play things like Age4 over the network. This Windows 11 PC does everything and has power to run games well on my touch monitor. If that rare time happens that I need to extend play for 3+ hours out of the house, I carry a battery pack. Linux on the desktop is less user friendly than the Armoury Crate or XBox App ever was. I'm tired of PC gamers complaining about launching a game on Windows only to lock themselves into Steam, meanwhile jumping through complicated hoops to play Gamepass and run Linux etc. For a person like me you get more options with a Windows based handheld.
@@lino100x100 If the unit does it, ASUS repairs it, or you can heat shield the slot yourself pretty easily with some insulating tape
The #1 tech review channel/outlet on the internet, par none.
The phrase is “bar none”.
Been waiting for this one a while good job as always Steve and crew and don’t thing I didn’t catch the asrock broken ass bios for stapm chart.
Awesome work as always. I totally have to get a soldering mat and coaster.
Important to note the ability to put the steamdeck to “sleep” and ability to resume quickly, unlike most of the others
Excited to see the fan acoustics on the OLED vs LCD.
Fantastic review. Solid job, GN!
just got my SD oled, im so happy with its performance
Ive used my (upgraded) 64gb lcd deck as a pc for months now and it is seriously one of the best values on the market
The fact that you can get the 256gb for that now is fucking insane.
Steve: "No one's playing games for like a minute and then stopping"
Lol Steve doesn't have kids
Yeah, I do that all the time. One of the best parts of the steam deck. Only had one game that doesn’t pick right back up after going to sleep, but everything else has been great!
I don't have kids myself, but I remember as a teenager carrying my GameBoy Advance everywhere and doing exactly that. Many games were designed with that in mind.
@@sodvar5047 So is the PSP. Sony trying to get back into the game again with leaks of Vita 2 makes sense when looking at the cash cow of Switch has been.
Game boy advance and PSP ability to go around and play whenever was the reason why u buy them for kids.
Every fing time I sit down and start a game...... I have to immediately get up.
This has nothing to do with the Deck or the content of the video, but Valve's Chicony charger reminded me that the keyboard for the very first PC I ever built all the way back in 2003 was a Chicony membrane keyboard I paid like $10 USD for. It lasted fifteen years before keystrokes on some keys stopped registering and I had to replace it. I tried to replace it with another Chicony, assuming I'd get another fifteen years of service out of it, but by that time, they were selling for like $40 USD.
I know that you guys did some of this for long term testing but I like the head canon that you all just started playing games on the Deck and forgot to do the followup for a few months.
I have to give Valve kudos for their Steam platform, specifically opening up gaming to those of us who prefer Linux.
As a long term Linux user, and owner of both an LCD and OLED steam deck, I will say...
I actually just use it like any handheld console and forget the device is even running Linux. It just works most of the time.
Especially great on my daily commute / lunch break, just put it to sleep and continue later or the next day. I really expected me to be tweaking with undervolts, different Linux distro's and so forth, but that is not how I use it at all.
Absolutely, it's been seamless since I got a deck v1 about a month ago from a friend, the only time I've dropped into desktop mode has been during initial setup to get emulators, chiaki4deck, and heroic launcher for gog games up and running
If you don't need those things then you will literally never have to use desktop mode or see a terminal window, which seems like an odd thing to praise it for, but that kind of thing makes the barrier to entry basically zero for newcomers to Linux and that's hugely important
After I got those set up I've spent the entirety of my time with the deck in game mode and it has been perfect, Valve has nailed the UX with the deck
I've absently left games like Fallout New Vegas on pause for days or weeks while doing other stuff on my main (Garuda Linux converted) desktop PC, and the game is still ready to go instantly, meanwhile on Windows I had games crash if it went into automatic sleep mode for even a moment
latency testing as always is massively appreciated
AMAZING, THANK YOU YOU MADE MY MIND TO WITH DECK!!(i was unsure to which to pick up)
Suggestion: input delay tests with fighting games.
Precise frame data for attacks are always available for games like Street Fighter and Guilty Gear, They're also games that are very commonly played in these handheld from my experience as LeagueOps. If a player doesn't have a gaming laptop, they definitely carry a Deck with them.
Would love to see comparisons between the handhelds so higher level fighting game players and tournament organisers looking to scale up their tournaments can have better insight!
Good idea. Will look into this.
I been saying this for awhile the steam deck holds its own against the newer chips, gives
Better battery, better experience with steam os, no reason to spend more when the deck oled performs as well as it does. Yes 25 watts on the z1 extreme will give you more, but the point of a handheld (for me) is to play away from the wall with decent battery life, steam deck the only one that provides this.
One of us, one of us, one of us,... Good job as always, Steve! Such an incredible device.
Nearly all decisions Valve took for the OLED mid-gen refresh proved really clever. Even the 90Hz panel, because 45FPS at 90Hz is no joke.
Great video Tim
The explosion of portable consoles has been fascinating to watch. It's interesting what you can get away with with integrated graphics these days. It's almost ridiculous that the old steam deck is something you can find for 200 bucks.
Well, both PS5 and Xbox Series also use AMD integrated graphics. AMD has done a great job with their chips for sure. One advantage for ROG Ally is that it also has better support for FSR 3 because of the RDNA 3 graphics, official drivers are not out from Asus yet, but people have been testing with the AMD drivers.
Where are you finding these for $200? I’m seeing 300 minimum used.
Which vent smells the best? I've had my Steam Deck LCD for 5 months. At first the vent smelled excellent. Recently it doesn't smell great anymore. Just kind of bland hot air
My LCD had a notable decline in the quality of its exhaust after a few months, but after owning it for over a year it seems to have settled into a nice place. Don't despair yet
My OLED vent smells pretty basic whereas my LCD is bright and fruity.
Great stuff, only thing I'd like to see in this is the standard deviation in latency tests. Even if the viz is as simple as error bars on the actual result.
Looking forward to the legion go review. I have low vision so it's the only one I really have a chance of seeing without an external display.
I have the Ally and I love it. If I had chosen the Oled Deck I would have loved it. If I would have chosen the Legion Go I would have loved it. All these came around at the perfect time when my 4 year old jacked my Switch from me. It belongs to him now. My Steam library has since grown.
The battery improvements on the OLED Deck are no joke. I knew it was better, but I didn't realize just how much better until I got one and used it for a few days. If I set the frame cap to 30 fps, I can play Valheim for over four hours before I have to even think about plugging in the OLED Deck. The screen is great, but the battery improvements actually changed how I use it since I'm not worried about always being near the charger anymore.
What was the battery life on the lcd for that game? As an lcd owner who's obsessed with battery life I love any extra comparison.
Even the LCD got massive "upgrade" to battery life with all of the updates to driver, kernel and compatibility layer. Like all 2D games I play can be played for longer than I can play without hurting myself xD
I'm relatively new to GN, and man I'm blown away by the detail on this channel. Thanks, guys.
super valuable information, tysm
Everything else aside, the Steam Deck is the only one to put the Dpad in the correct spot. Having to reach for it in any game you want digital over analog controls is not acceptable and makes the other devices wholly unsuited to gaming that uses it.
I'm lying in bed watching a video on Steam Deck OLED about Steam Deck OLED
crazy good review as always steve
Thanks Steve!
Nice work guys. Appreciate the comprehensive testing, especially the noise plot - thanks!
What I love about Steam Deck is that it runs an opensource and lean and privacy respecting GNU/Linux OS, and none of that bloated spyware from Miicrosoft. And it is nice how it by default functions like a real console a la Playstation and then you can switch to a powerful proper desktop environment provided by KDE Plasma. Simply amazing and it is about time we see MS OS monopoly broken. Hopefully Steam Deck can help with that.
The mass market arent switching to Linux anytime soon outside of niche uses like SteamOS etc, and for good reason
@@liam2 Android is what?
"Linux is not for gaming" Linux with half the hardware:
Thank you GamersNexus team. Love these reviews after a more prolonged period of time rather than the first week of release. Good stuff!
I appreciate these videos even if admittedly some of it is over my head
Beyond the battery and other minor benefits, the one reason I'm absolutely buying a Steam Deck over these other devices is I hate asymmetrical controls, they make no sense to me. Since EVERY SINGLE device besides the Deck is using the ugly design, they simply don't get my money... well, that and just being generally sick of the BS MS pulls with Windows.
less powerful, running windows games on linux better than the more powerful windows handheld. the steam deck is pure wizardry
More efficiently. Better I dunno.
Thanks for the great review
I would really like to see you test chimera and nobara os on the ally. As a nobara user on the ally I assure you it resolves these 0.1%low issues. It's so very much better.
Such a wonderful, exciting time to be a PC gamer. It's more accessible than it's ever been, and Valve is a big part of driving that push forward.
Amazing deep dive comparing the three. I love my ally but I can’t wait for something better to come along with 32gb of ram and a bigger screen. ❤
great job! as always!
Great video! Watched the entire thing wondering why the legion wasn't included. LOL. I'll let everyone else watch through the end to see if they can figure it out. Thanks GN. I'm seriously considering one of these handhelds. I'm also up in the air as to whether or not I should just wait for the next generation of them, maybe with a little bit better graphics, and a tad more refined.
I'm impressed by how comparable even the Deck LCD still is. Definitely excited for when true 2nd gen handhelds start coming out, but for now my Deck LCD is doing just fine!
The increased performance of the Steam Deck OLED vs the LCD version is impressive, but what really amazes me is the improved thermal performance while simultaniously increasing battery life and capacity.
Those changes they made really make it a much better device overall in spite of the fact most of the processing hardware remains identical.
Great stuff. If I may make a suggestion: for the dBA testing on handhelds specifically, would it make sense to test at, or add in a second plot of the noise at, around 10-15"/0.25-0.4m, closer to the distance at which one would hold a handheld? I suppose, failing that, you could probably just note that the noise level at half the distance would be around 6dB higher.
Thank you and your team for the great review 👍🏻 one point of improvement would be keeping consistent colour for each device with every chart. Kinda threw me off a few times
Valve has done such an amazing job with the Deck. I'll stick with my LCD version but am super excited about a second gen Deck. I hope the community or even valve themselves are able to expand compatibility because i still play my Ally more since I can play games from other stores natively on it.
Holy shit, very very thorough testing methodology !
Dont say the Lords name in vain
Loved this, I feel this long term review had more weight.
Thanks Steve, it was worth the wait.
I'd love to see a review of the Kryosheets with various common desktop CPUs with data. From the only review I can find it looks like it's much closer to paste performance than the predecessor
n0thing! sweet, looking forward to that test! :D
Seriously you keep posting banger videos over banger videos!
Man I seriously love the work you guys do to present real scientific data. This just made me feel so much more confident about my Deck OLED purchase yesterday. Can’t wait for my unit to arrive!
23:25 The joy in his eyes when he's talking about his aneothetic(?) chamber. :D
Anechoic, you can remember it because it's a room without echoes (an-echo-ic)
Anecdotic chamber*
Hemi-Anechoic Chamber.
@@mariokart6309 a no-coughing-chamber, got it! 🙂
Great review
Got the Deck OLED immediately when it came out and couldn’t be more happy. Valve is doing great things for Linux gaming.
This video covers almost all questions one might have if you are choosing between buying Deck OLED or the Ally. It took me AGES to figure out what handheld to get a few months ago, although I wasn't considering the Deck at all since most of my games library isn't on Steam and it didn't make that much sense in my case.