Spiritual Abuse and how to identify it
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- Spiritual Abuse is quite an insidious form of coercive control as it is often carried out by a person in a position of 'moral or religious superiority', or someone the victims admire and look to for guidance and support. The abuse is often carried out whilst claiming to be either for the victim's 'own good', or for the greater good. It is sometimes referred to a Religious abuse, but is not exclusive to a religious setting or by religious people. Spiritual abuse can happen in relationships, families, the workplace, or the community. It can also happen in political or ideological movements and cults.
In this video Darren Magee outlines what spiritual abuse is and lists common signs and examples of it, as well as looking at the impact it can have on someone.
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This has happened to me twice over the past 10 years. First my ex wife, who was later diagnosed as a psychopath and is grifting around now as a cult leader. The second was the pastor of a local congregation. Fortunately, I haven't lost my faith, but I have lost all trust in "religious" people and churches.
I felt the same way for a long time but to my shock I ended up being Catholic. I couldn’t deny the truth the theology contained. It was very hard to trust again. The priest was very understanding and just presented the truth kindly and let the chips fall where they may. I was very grateful for that. I get sick thinking how spiritual abuse almost kept me from the beauty and peace of the one true faith. I am so happy you haven’t lost the faith despite greedy humans. That’s what breaks my heart the most, when people lose their faith and love for Jesus because of human abuse. Very sad situation.
"Morality without the morals" - bullseye!
This was my ex for over a decade. His favorite saying to me,"im the one with theology background, im older than yoh and i will always know more than you", his twisting of Gods word for his self sick gain along with the psychological, sexual, physical and emotional abuse came to a halt once i finally told my father what was going on. Im thankful my father still lives who is a preacher still in his mid 70s. When he heard what happening, it was what i needed for me to learn the word for myself. Once this began to go forward, he left the state for a funeral and to also see his mistress he'd been sleeping with over a year( of course he didnt think i knew) i went to the courts and filed divorce. When he got back, he was totally in shock and the tablea begin to turn. He begin to freak out because he was being discarded 1st. He made it clear he was trying to drive me crazy so i couldnt live without him... he says he identifies as a sociopath but has also been diagnosed bipolar 2, narcissistic (covert) and all the things that go along with it.
My children and i are free ! Free.
Thank you sir
I am so very glad you got educated, supported by your family, and are now free. Blessings tonyou and your family.
@@robingray5037 Amen and may God bless you also.
Glad you are free.
It takes courage and strength to leave toxic relationships.
Too many churches take the Scripture out of context to manipulate members like for donations and service.
The narc. I knew said a few times over the years..”I’m older then you and I know more, so listen to me…” lol they were 6months older 😂
Spiritual abuse AKA "Narcissism.." SOUL MURDER.
Nailed it. Dr. Scott Peck wrote a book about human evil. He was describing narcissism as being literal human evil. In the books introduction, he asks his child what "evil" is, and his child replies, "It's LIVE, backwards."
Out of the mouths of babes.. Evil is the opposite of live.
@@SolaGratia. YEP. I read the book. Horrible evil exists everywhere. So sad for the non-evils. Can't trust anyone which is murder of the soul and DESTRUCTION OF LIFE.
This is Jehovahs Witnesses!! I left a year ago after 20 years. Learned about coercive control and narcissist during Covid lockdown and my eyes were opened. I praise Jesus that I was able to leave an abusive husband (a Jehovahs Witness) as well.
I was one too. I’m glad you got out too.
Im going through similar. I left the cult (Jehovah's Witnesses last May handed in my resignation letter. My husband has treated me very poorly since leaving. Im no longer worthy. The bible doesnt apply to me anymore. etc. He keeps threatening to leave. He always says its 'spiritual endangerment', but Ive only just realised after 19 years together, that he is a covert narcissist. Emotionally neglected me all this time.
Thank you for this, Darren. I have a feeling there are many Christian wives silently suffering with husbands misinterpreting the Word of God for their own selfish benefit.
Your right. I was one of them. Glad to be free.
@@realliving7340 Happy for you. 💕
😭
Thank you for talking about this, it is often hard to distinguish when this abuse is happening, since in religious environments one is encouraged to give everyone (except oneself) the benefit of the doubt, and one is also supposed to be taking direction and tough love "on-board", with a spirit of submission to authority and one of humility. But... that kindof environment is RIPE for exploitation.
This subject is triggering me. I was raised Catholic. Spiritual "Abuse" is too kind a term. What I suffered at the hands of the church and my family was Spiritual Terrorism. The irony is that the supposed stand-ins for god (Priests) were raping the shit out of fellow children while the church covered it up. My mother turned out to be a sociopath. I'm autistic, called bullshit on the church when I was 9, and on mommy dearest when I was 14. Somehow I survived that nighmare.
Again - it's terroism not abuse. How else can you describe the vision of hell that was central to church doctrine for so long? Fear and shame masquerading as love and kindness. The way I see it now, Larry Flynt was far more holy than any Pope, and much less perverted.
You sound very narcissistic though
I'm about to turn 47 and have finally just figured this out and escaped the madness, and am now embracing my newfound spiritual freedom while simultaneously mourning the loss of the family I thought I knew upon finally seeing them in their proper, monstrous light. My mom, her sister, and my older sister set upon me the day I was born with a combination of End Times proto-Trumpism and sadistic negativity, destroying my mind, crushing my spirit, and locking me up under their mind control, which made a complete mess of my life. I've worked really hard to clean things up and come a long way and have been healing and making something of myself in spite of them. I've made every effort for peace but they insist on war, so fine. They're out of my life. I'm going on two years since last talking to any of them and not sure I ever will again. And if I do, I'm just going to say I no longer need your approval, or for you to develop a conscience and own up for me to know the truth about you and what you've done. Goodbye, at least until you develop a conscience and start reasoning like a grown up. They wasted SO much of my time and potential, but I've been making up for lost time and hoping to get even by succeeding.
What an incredible thing to live in this time in history of finally knowing these things and being able to speak them openly, and not only that but being able to share them and get educated on a platform like youtube. It’s a long way from our ancestors getting all their information from priests. History has been crying out for this to be said, and you do so so perfectly. I’ve subscribed to your channel, and booked marked this video as possibly the one I’ve been looking for to show them if I ever break no contact and attempt to explain why I’ve been no contact, not that I think they will actually listen but just to say what I need to say.
My advice...(you don't have to take it): Do not break NC to show anyone anything. I don't mean to yell, but, you MUST NOT run your emotional choices by them. I see it as a bunch of steps backwards. It defeats the purpose of the whole breaking free from their control thing.
@@theskeletonsskeletons9495 I agree, you'd be setting yourself up for hurt and distortions of your intentions, they would play the victim role and try to make you look bad. Is it worth the potential suffering if you do go to see them ?
Perhaps one day, individually, one or more may have an epiphany and seek you out. In doing so, they will have demonstrated some small change in attitude. At this point an attempt might be made for peace. Unfortunately, if you go to them it may mean conceding ground you have gained. The one exception can be when one is on their deathbed. Death is a stark reminder of our mortality.
Jehovah's Witnesses to a Tee. Everything you have said is so true.
Yup! Glad to be free from that cult. Hope you are as well.❤
I didn't realise how controlling it was until a friends husband referred to his mum taking the kids and leaving as 'escaping'
I cult like church for eleven
years. Many of the things you described were present. The two main talking points to get you to stay was they were the only true church and if you left the church you left God.
One point to consider the way you grew up can make you more susceptible to this kid of abuse. Because of my upbringing of abuse I didn't see the signs. It was familiar and it fit me like a glove.
I am sorry for experiences. Generational religious abuse.
It has been more than 6 years of spiritual abuse with strikingly similar details for me. Thank you for your immense help and support. Your work has been a life saver for me! God bless you ❤
Glad to see you are doing a video on spiritual
Abuse. Many thanks
This was sheer gold! And you're right, the principles you outlined apply not only to religious groups but also political and social groups. I would say it's a form of corporate narcissistic abuse.
I have been through this situation a couple of times. My reply to those who become complicit in the lies is the Matthew 18 protocol which many do not follow. Take your complaint to the person. No results? Take two or three witnesses to the person. No results? Take your complaint to the assembly. I have done this and it makes for an interesting outcome to say the least. All the liars and shams are exposed for what they are. The problem is exacerbated when people swallow one sided stories without allowing the others involved to equal time and explanation. When people would come and say to me, "Your husband says you..." I would reply, "Did he also tell you ..." When they would hear the whole story they were less exercised in their indignation. Gossip is the telling of one-sided stories missing facts and truth.
I love how you handled these people-“did he also tell you…”
This both stands up for yourself and in a graceful way.
I found most people just believe one side-it takes considerable strength to continually stand up for the truth.
My husband narc. does all that, I pray alot to keep my faith,he tries to discourage me,but I'm strong enough to spiritly fight back with prayer
You have nailed it. Thank you for a very accurate and spot on description of what spiritual abuse is. This is something I have been suffering from for the last couple of years. The spiritual abusers have been using all sorts of tactics to break my spirit and they have been doing it in the ways you have described. I have been triangulated, gaslighted, invalidated, humiliated, financially abused, isolated , stalked, threatened, intimidated in many different ways aimed at wearing me out. I know how it all sounds and now I am just looking back in shock, but it has really happened to me. My family, aquaintences and even business clients have left following the abusers instruction and blinded by the spiritual abusers status and religious power. Spiritual abuse is, as you said the most destructive, as it breaks the person’s spirit and without it there is no person left! Let us stay alive and do not let anybody kill our spirit! Thank you for your work Darren. It is life saving!
... great comment..... sending best vibes ur way... from Australia.. x
As a person with disabilities looking for work and going to mental health programs in Canada, a number of years ago, "Professionals" blasphemed the LORD's name, prohibited me from reading the Bible or going to church. They treated other clients (non-believers), badly, who either reported them or left.
God is not mocked. These programs lost funding and the counselors lost their jobs, and much worse. They came back, begging for my help and even prayers. I was told not to help these organizations.
I was told by my parents that I would go to hell for being gay and that my parents prayed I would be straight (I was made do conversion therapy by them) because they had both seen a vision of my wife which they claimed God had shown them what she looked like etc, I'm learning how they are completely wrong and I accept myself, the abuse still hurts to this day, and I am thankful that ive made peace with God the fact I'm gay snd He loves me as I am.
Wow. There are many cruel hypocritical and what I would say are abusive people who run to church. Somewhere it has to be acceptable to condemn them and call them out. Somewhere the moral code must be analyzed and upheld. To me demands for endless blind unconditional forgiveness are abuse. The want denial to avoid the bitter realities and they usually don’t define forgiveness.
I am so here for this. And I can't help but notice your subscriber count on this one. 😂
I'm just noticing this as well 😅
Just noticed that myself lol
should be 6 million considering the content
the most recent speech of the man portraying the head of the gang in control of us...sort of checks off a lot of the boxes set out here, or maybe its just my imagination...i do live in a gaslit arena😎 (the color seems to be magenta and red lately)
I grew up in Israel ( Occupied beautiful Palestine) and you just described what it was like to have the Jewish religion forced on us in sadistic ways. Thank you. I am sure people from all religions experience this in religious countries.
Thanks Darren and hope you're having a lovely day 🙏❤️☀️ I look forward to watching this with a cuppa tea! ☕ Best wishes ✨
I lost a faith community because I wasn't willing to play the "poor victim" game and I would question tolerance of bad behavior.
Same here! In retrospect it took losing my church to find my faith. Most churches I’ve been to seem to be lampooning the teachers of the law whom Jesus called snakes.
Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
It is in our nature to belong to goodness, one could say it is in our spirit. When this familiarity to goodness is threatened then is the time to say NO! NO to abuse. It doesn’t matter where this happens, in a spiritual setting, political, work situation, friendship group, in a family, on a retreat or on the play ground, etc…, what matters is that we remain loyal to the goodness, the inner peace and daily freedom and to experience that goodness inside of us. - That is my take on how to move forward from this predicament, I hope this will be useful for someone. Thanks Darren for your valuable insights ❣️
In Canada many indigenous children experienced this in the forced boarding school era .
As a child and being highly sensitive, for me learning of the genocide of Jewish people caused me to break down to my core , it permanently broke a part of my soul. I needed treatment.( I am Anglican. )
I learn a great deal from all of your video postings. Most of them, I watch twice as there is a lot of information to learn from. Thank you for your efforts in providing in depth videos on the most important topics for the public to understand and become familiar with. Much appreciated.
You just described literally all religions.
No, he described sinful people who use religion to torment others, for whatever reason. My first cousin is an elder in his huge church, and a sociopath. His sociopathy was revealed by his behavior in a political scandal eight years ago. It ended up costing him his business, which was just, but he continues in his church. He's a complete phony and a reflexive liar, of course, so I imagine it was easy enough for him to blame his scandal - connected troubles on "the liberal media." Plus, he's extremely wealthy ( his father - in - law's money, naturally ) and is able to donate a lot of money to his church.
Payoffs for their not asking too many questions.
On the other hand, I'm in a wonderful church fellowship of moderate size ( about 125 people ). My cousin could never survive in that congregation. He'd be ferreted out for what he is, and might even be excommunicated. He certainly would never be able to be an elder.
I agree, I have been saying for a few years now that I believe religion is narcissistic itself. People don't have to take it that way, likewise children of narcissistic parents don't have to be narcissistic nor people pleasers, but it definitely is toxic.
Commies worked exactly same way. My parents definitely weren't narcs but all this sounded so strangely familiar..took me Soo long to connect the dots..
@foxitt2266
My relatives and neighbors growing up who escaped communism all had an edge to their personality that exuded stress, which was their survival mechanism.
My husband just told me yesterday that everything he does (evil) is to “protect me from my own stupidity”.
As I’m typing this comment he just came in the house to call me crazy AND nuts for leaving dust on the floor mat in the car.
OMG😱
Crazy AND nuts?!?
Is that even a thing😅
Thankyou Darren for calling it out!
It certainly sounds like you’re describing the gangsters who claim to be the government.
i always feel stronger after watching ur vids Mr Magee .. thank you .... this last couple of weeks have been ... harder than usual ya ....
anyway ....... yes they demand blind loyalty while manipulating and degrading 'their target' ... desperately trying to justify their lack of moral integrity with 'word salad' and 'intimidation'
i can hear the echo still .. 'its the only way she will ever learn' and 'she needs to be taught a lesson' .... sigh...
I was spiritually abused for 15 years. It’s so freeing getting out from it, however, not many are aware it even exists. See Cara’s inner healing horror for my testimony.
That's a really good area to talk about. Especially when it comes to religions. To understand and to use that knowledge to help others is such a good medicine.psychology is truly the healer for modern man.Thank you
I faced this when I left the Jehovah's witness organisation last year. I lost everyone. My husband treats me like im a nobody, worse than he did before I left. He is a covert Narcissist, and he keeps threatening to leave me. He blames it on 'spiritual endangerment' as its a good excuse....but really its because I recently caught him out with something that was very unkind. Instead of admitting it, he deflected it, gaslighted me, and did everthing he could to twist ot back to me. Its very difficult
Plz do someting about religious trauma, for example making children terrefied of demons.
Damn you said it so good. I do actually believe my narcissistic father who i believe is a pathological narcissist actually thought in his mind, he is doing me a favor by destroying any sense of joy i ever had toward anything. All i remember from childhood is getting cornered from every possible direction, non-stop fawning only way to survive
Now all i've ever wished was to become a psychopath and completely destroy and torture him beyond the breaking point, humiliate him, make him sorry he was ever born, just like i feel every day, but i'm still here unfortunately. at least my children are grateful to me for not existing.
Why? I just don’t understand why these people who are supposed to be “loving “ need to pass on their pain to their children. It’s as if it’s an unconscious selfishness or just a total lack of empathy.
Awesome... great explanation.
Thanks so much.
One of their favourites is claiming they know you better than you know yourself...
Or saying good and evil are only 'illusions', while being a trademark of evil themselves...as you've said.... those typical double standards...
Love the Popper quote...
Yes, history clearly demonstrated that. Perhaps you like the philosopher John Gray as well?
You hit the nail on the head. Exactly.
You nailed this one. I live among the Mormons and this perfectly describes them.
Very good video thanks
Thank you Darren
Thanks Again 🙏
100% 🎯
Thank you Sir!
So basically hypocrisy is a red flag
God bless You. Amen
This is pervasive w in business.
The clever narcissist in position of power.
Surrounding themselves w lackeys. Corrupting the workforce.
Seems impossible to expose let
alone stop
The Shambhala-Buddhist community in my hometown were creepy to me when I was studying religion in university back in the 1990s. Turns out my feeling was right. The so-called “recognized Tulkus” were more often than not creepy nerds who coerced people into “Tantric” sex. Including the leader, the Sakyong, the biggest creep of all.
Hey Darren, Sounds like You are Describing my Two Older Brothers, The Oldest being the Ringleader
Thank you.
Would you please consider a video about lifelong trauma caused by child sexual abuse within a cult? I have experienced this & can’t move on 40 years later. Many thanks.
Thank you for your topic suggestion
Thank you
I haven't been to church since the last one I went to read my bible and seek the LORD
Sounds like a lot of politicians and elitists.
I really appreciate this video it’s sometimes the people you hold on the highest pedestal that you adore and admire that are actually the most hypocritical judge mental dictators on earth and if you don’t comply with their hive mind think you are literally threatened with a dark future I like to have blonde hair and wear imaginative playful clothes imaginative complex fashions if you want I wouldn’t say as far as Lady Gaga but I have been that far I’ve stepped it back after all the pressure of my friends and I do think moderation is a good thing to some degree for some people for me now at 61 but to have a cookie cutter uniform prism garb as a as a meek mild virtue signaling VIP pass it’s just it’s just too much and I never thought I’d be the enemy to people that I literally extorted and sold and promoted and admired and loved that I would be attacked in this way vilified flipped out of Satan is evil dragon horrific and my crime is being me my crime is my vanity so they say my arrogance my ego testicle Ness my attention seeking one thing I do want is attention admittedly so I call it love they call it self aggrandizement but it’s really doesn’t matter I pray for God‘s peace I pray for God‘s forgiveness I for I pray for love and healing and be an example of what a free spirit Canby if I’m allowed to do so sometimes these powerful people can just crush you literally crush you and you’re destroyed and dumb but the one thing we always have is God we can we can always have God they claim to protect you and have your best interest at heart but maybe they believe that it sure doesn’t feel that way I don’t believe that not right now I like to wear creative clothes and I like what you have to say spiritually attacking people with their morals values and ethics that you don’t share and you will be forced to share those values are you will be destroyed I don’t think God frowns on creativity imagination artistry in your garments or your hairstyle or your make up and I don’t think he’s showing you I don’t think he has ageism I think an old woman can have hair all the way down to her back and diet platinum blonde if she wants to and God smiles on her and she could be with her grandkids with her how long flowing hair and it really doesn’t matter because the love coming out of and the kids don’t even notice you get to you had to kid a 13 year old is an old person and a 61-year-old is just an ancient zombie so it really doesn’t matter to a child if you’re old anyway you look at it but it still feels good even as an old person to be as lovely as I Canby to be as pretty as I can paint myself to be I’m not naturally pretty anymore but I can paint it up a little and put some sparkles on it I don’t think God‘s condemning me to hell for that and I know he’s not he loves me and I love myself and I really appreciate you I appreciate this message I’m sending you back love and appreciation I hope you feel that it’s nice to have lunch with you big hugs from the desert love and light from the desert 🌵🤍❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I have a group of people attacking me doing these things trying to stop me from spreading the truth
In the United States it’s possible it might be considered a hate crime to “spirituality” abuse a non spiritual atheist. Hate crimes are punishable for up to 20 years in prison.
You are a gift from God. An Angel…thank you.
Sounds like a classical description of cults.
The way to hell is paved in gold no doubts by the lairs!!! I am now being blamed for the abuse. I can’t win and if left at early age they would still be pitted against me. I told my mom they will figure it out one day when I’m in a casket no doubt! Had the life squad hete a few times becsue of the stress of bs from all the toxic bs. My ex text me to ask what our wedding song was! Really? These guys never leave becsue they are always in limbo they don’t know one day they love you one day they hate you and I’m feeling the same vibes from my daughter and I just pray that she doesn’t end up living a life like that because my ex is miserable you can tell. I know it’s taken me three almost 3 years and I’m finally getting better I can’t entertain any more drama in my life as I can tell my kids I’m sorry I can’t change the past I’m willing to work on our relationship but no one can just hates me and so mad her dad supposed to pay for stuff and then he don’t he says he’s going to do it and then he don’t and then I’m there to pick up and I’m the bad guy. I’m used to be in the bad guy. I was abused just like my kids and my parents always protected my ex as my brother died and then my dad thofutb my ex was amazing and put him on a pedestal and I was the black sheep. He told me I’m a dumb girl and my ex said I’m a nobody.
This is too scary to listen to right. I Im in the throes of this type f abuse and have gone NC.
Hi it's steph watching this one. Mmmm .I was just talking to my self 5 mins ago and found this
I'm so fed up with my parents.
Oh my goodness. I didn’t know there was a name for this 😮
I wonder why hearing "it's for the greater good" made me remember Albus Dumbledore on the original Harry Potter saga? I'm not sure but, maybe, it could be because Harry wasn't given the information of why he had to endure his uncle, aunt and cousin. it also pissed me off that when Dumbledore gives the explanation to Harry, he claims that his mistake was that he wanted harry to have a happy childhood. I don't know what JKR had on her mind, but Dumbledore has always look, to me, abusive towards Harry.
how hard it was to tell Harry that "Voldemort still has followers alive, and even himself isn't full dead, living with our aunt protects you against them. even against voldemort. like you saw while fighting quirrel. it seems your mother gave you some sort of protection linked to her bloodline" that would had helped harry a lot. even if he still had to go back to the dursley. knowing why he had too.
but, no. Harry had to do as the "superior" Albus Dumbledore said. without given any explanation of why. beyond the ocasional "Dumbledore is a wise man" given by Hagrid, Hermione, Molly, ...
thanks
spiritual abuse is 1 Corinthians 4:5 really carefully?
Totally completely- its hell on earth.
I want to be a christian, but so much of what they do is peddle fear. I wanted to love God, then i read the bible and its burst my bubble about what relgion is, i assumed it was about peace and love, and i was so disappointed. Actually, it made me sad and kinda angry.
Abuse of power is especially grevious if it accompanies misusing God's Word. Matthew 23:13 They shall receive the greater condemnation.
I'm a victim please how do I heal
You are on the right path by educating yourself, Darren has a great channel. Listen to more of his videos, especially the ones describing healthy relationships and there is a specific video about this very topic on the Surviving Narcissism channel. Wishing you all the best on your journey to healing. 🙏🏽
One word: hypocrites.
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I live with spirituál abuse,, Settings othersvagainst it me. I live in fear every day of mx life. A life n ptison. I often wish that I never existed,
40 years of fear, ridicule and humiliation.
Sept îles Québec Canada
Darren, do you have any videos that discuss the pros and cons of depression drugs like effexor?
I don’t no, I tend not to talk too much about medication as it isn’t my field.
@@DarrenFMagee I am figuring out that I’m an adult child of an alcoholic, raised as a lost child dynamic. I’m wondering if medication? I’d actually rather not do medication an image rested and EMDR therapy. I guess it worked for Prince Harry? Do you have any opinions on EMDR therapy?
It’s a therapeutic approach I’ve been asked to discuss recently. I’ll be doing a video on it in the near future
@@DarrenFMagee I’ll be waiting with bated breath!
is there a particular medication that has worked for your clients?
All religion is coercive by definition. Everything you described is an accurate description of all of the main religions which involve a holy book, a hierarchy or a liturgy. But then, of course, there is no such thing as "spirit". It doesn't exist. Only the mind, the body and society and its technology are real.
Gee, thanks for explaining what the thousands of great minds who created Western civilization just weren't smart enough to catch onto.
All people with minds like yours ever produce is suicide, cultural suicide. It has been happening to the United States gradually for over a century. Now we see its unashamed manifestations in the "culture" of mass abortion, polysexuality, and sexual mutilation to try to make a person of one sex into the other.
Thanks, thanks so much.
Primetila sam da su takvi vrlo potkovani i lukavi ljudi, vidim to i kroz lošu muziku, serije i neke filmove..
Happened to me
😢
Soul murder
I doubt if anyone could manipulate me using some 'righteous spiritual/religious beliefs'. Essentially using God or some other 'big guy' as being on THEIR side making THEM right so YOU lose in comparison? That's an old trick. Wisdom (knowing how to think, knowing how to know) beats fanaticism or fixed ideas or dogmatic indoctrination no matter what form it takes. You should be able to spot control, manipulation, etc. being done by anyone with bad intentions. Should stick out like a sore thumb.
Well if u grow up being exposed to ideas in your formative years, it's hard to shake. U know it's bs, yet are still afraid.
The definition of "Cult" has been changed big time. Most people can leave any religion. And most religions teach newbies prior to being made a member and if the newbies dislike anything whether they are a member or not, they can refuse the teachings. And many people have left churches.
"The love of the greater number will cool off."
Matthew 24:12
They use soft power now, scare u to stay, rather force u
very interesting. Where did CS Lewis say this?
In his book, ‘God in the Dock, Essays on Theology” 1948
@@DarrenFMagee I read everyone of CS Lewis is Christian theology books while I was in college. He had a huge influence over my thinking
I think the church is very guilty of trying to create Stepford wives. That’s one manifestation of this narcissistic bologna
Can 16 year old phone a therapist
You have to read the book yourself-otherwise it’s a crapshoot for your life-😊-get a version you understand ❤🎉
Sounds like my father in law.
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Polyamorous people do this when they're trying to hoover up new participants. I've never seen them not behave this way.
Sounds like a life of children of Jehovah's Witnesses. Ask me how I know....my life growing up. Thank goodness I saw the light at an early age. Many don't.
I guess God and Jesus should be able to stand up under this examination. And imperfect people? Let God be true but every man a liar.
Sounds like what x-Pres tRump & or the Tela-evangelists.
Describes our former church to a t😈!
Islamic Jinn VS North American Sasquatch
Ugh. 🙄
You have an 'under the radar' style of presenting. But the more I watch your content the more I'm convinced you're talking about the woke SJW movement we see nowadays, and you do it without naming it.
100%. I came here to say the same thing. My eyes were bugging out as he totally nailed the SJW playbook, point after point. Yes, it applies to the other end of the spectrum as well as most people know, but not many understand how it's being applied with masterful skill on the left.
Rejecting or protesting Catholicism has led to individuals deciding for themselves what the Bible is saying, so you have abuse by way of the Bible because of some fellas interpretation and not the truth. Everyone trying to be their own little Pope has consequences.
Interpreting the Bible in a slightly different way does not necessitate abuse. There are so many theologies out there and the pope has no more basis for being right in his interpretation than other pastors, bishops, ministers or person that reads the Bible.
Abuse has to incorporate coersion, control, manipulation not simply holding a different theology or understanding of the Bible.
Just like Jehovas witnesses
The perfect church on Earth does not exist and you cannot make the perfect church. If you can prove me wrong and find this church DO NOT JOIN IT!!! If you do you will spoil it.