I was able to use a B&B Filth alongside a CRBN1X as well. Very similar paddles. I do think the CRBN has just a tiny bit more power, but very hard to notice. I do think the Filth has a little bit more spin. I noticed this on roll volleys and some touch type shots around the kitchen line. Spin seems exactly the same between the Filth and the CRBN at the baseline. I also think the Filth has a slightly better "feel" than the CRBN. It's more of a connected and lively feel. The CRBN is a great paddle but it just doesn't quite have the same connected feel as the Filth. I prefer the Filth. It also looks awesome. I've also played with a Vatic Flash 14, 16, and a Legacy Pro. I like the Filth much better than those three.
You should do a review on the PCKL pickleball paddle set. (I’ve been seeing a lot of ads for them lately and their prices are pretty low for their “pro level paddles)
Great review...I play with a CRBN1X and love it. Plan to try the Filth. Asked you a while back when you were going to get some of the PBStudio T-shirts for sale...don't want a 3.5 Tshirt.
This paddle is just awesome, OOTB the power and spin were noticably better than my R3.16 plus I haven't had a single issue with pain or discomfort, I was on the edge btwn the flash 14mm, xspak, pulsar 60dbd and this one, guess I made the right choice, thx to PBW for your his advice as well🤙
I’ve had a Filth for maybe two weeks. Mine has nowhere near the power, pop, or spin of a CRBN 1X, even with weight added on. My Vatic V7 is a much closer comparison to the CRBN. Has anyone had this issue? I want to love it but so far it’s a let-down :(
Love your reviews. Can you please specify in all your reviews whether the face is smooth or has grit? While I expect all paddles to wear, when I think of grit I expect that will wear sooner.
No raw carbon fiber paddle will ever have added grit. They all get their texture from the raw carbon fiber surface with a peel ply impression. So you never need to worry about spray on grit that’s going to rub off on any thermoformed RCF paddle
@@douglasmurdoch7247 Thank you for clarifying! The word grit is sometimes used in a more general sense which I found confusing. Just started playing with the Ronbus R1 Pulsar and now understand exactly what you are saying. Love the RCF surface.
I would love to see a review on the ACE Spade or the Diamond. I know that this probably isn't a super popular brand, but I recently tested their Spade and I must say that I am really impressed with what they have going on with their products. Although they only have two paddles released and I have only used one of them, the spin is incredible, the touch is great, and the paddle has a really light body, at least when compared with my main paddle, the Diadem Warrior. The resets and pick ups (off of overheads or speed ups at my feet) are a bit more difficult than with the Warrior, but of course the Warrior is heavier and has more control. On average my shots feel a little faster than with my Warrior, although the Warrior has more speed and power potential with the weight and the solid core with the softer outer layers that bottom out, activating that inner core with harder swings. I also have incredible spin and my topspin feels amazing, to the point where I never hit a flat drive with the Spade, and it is hard to go back to my Warrior where I can't get as much topspin. I am around 4.0, although I have never truly been rated, but coaches that have watched me play have said that based on my shot variety and selection I am at the very least, above 3.5. Of course, take this with a grain of salt, since I have limited experience in players with verified ratings. Anyway, I think that ACE has a lot of good things going on for them, and I don't have any way to test specs such as spin and maximum speed. I also love your reviews and the formatting, as well as the listing of pros and cons that you have, and having a rather unbiased perspective. I love your videos, and hope that this comment can gain some support or pique your interest to make this review!!
awesome production quality in this review. the music right before you oopsie'd. the humor. the moments with Aize. the game play quality. awesome stuff guys.
Great review! Question for future podcast with Will: what do you say to someone during a Rec game that tells you your serve is illegal? This was brought up on the Briones podcast and loved the discussion.
I have read a lot of reviews and they said the sweet spot on the Filth is small did you find this to be true. If you had a choice between Legacy or Filth what would you pick.
Why do you think could work? Basically that guy thinks he knows better than all the players or tennis, table tennis and now pickleball. He is talking in his video about how to hit the ball but the movement is always like a shovel, a simple scoop and push - I am using my wrist, how can you to a cut, a top spin, side spin, how fast do you think you cand move your hand with that grip at the kitchen line?
@@notnotnownow9622 I'm not sure, that is why I would like to see a review. I don't think it would prevent you from using your wrist or creating spin for most shots. It is an intriguing idea. I would like to try one, but I don't want to buy it without trying it first.
@@jadenhellewell8854 Look at this video, at their drill around 1.35 min, look at the wrist movement and how many different things that paddle is doing and tell me the Byrd ergo grip would allow you to do the same. And don't get me wrong, maybe for up to 3.0 could work but I really doubt is any good to a higher level
dude... we have a senior gal in our rec play that hits that shot 2 or 3 times a session make it more than she misses. Weak backhand and goes for it as an alternative always shocked when she pulls it off
From what I have seen, Legacies still break a lot. Everyone in my local area who has one seems to have broken 1 or 2. No idea what the actual break rate is though.
I have two Legacy's and neither of them seem broken to me. One I have had since middle of March, I did buy the second one because of all the talk of breaking, just in case, since I do like the paddle a lot. I have read of core crushing, but both of mine sound fine, all seems good, I play 2-3 times a week.
Hey guys, i was wondering if you guys can recommend or give advice for me. I have been using a selkirk lightweight amped epic for a few years on nd off due to work. I'm looking to upgrade my paddle nd start taking the game more seriously joining tournaments and matches. Any recommendations or advice? I play more dinking, keeping the ball low/ taking it out of the air but starting to learn more about drives, spins etc. I was looking to try the legacy pro, the six zero double black diamond 16mm or the selkirk labs 003 invikta
Six Zero DBD and Legacy Pro are both great. Probably the top 2 on the market right now imo. Ronbus Pulsar is also very good. Gruvn has now entered the unibody with foam injected and sealed perimeter market. They are availble for pre-order. I imagine they will be excellent as well.
Id put the Ronbus Pulsar above the Legacy love the R1 with the 5.5 grip. Ive hit a DBD 14mm and fact felt hard. Havent hit the Filth but own a couple 1x
This was hilarious! Informative, yet - hilarious. The cold open - I guess that's the right term... only change.. maybe some ballet music. Swan Lake ? Younger brother - dude looks lanky. He's like 5 inches taller?
Its not that i dont like the “first look” videos, but as a consumer id prefer to know what you think of the paddle and how it plays after using it for a couple of weeks at least. Performance over time is a very important attribute when it comes to paddles and this type of video cannot cover that aspect. In this video his brother does go over the longer term stuff but i dont think thats the case in most of these first look videos
That’s why I had my brother in it. The unfortunate fact is that it isn’t possible to cover every paddle that comes out if I spend multiple weeks on it. Im spending multiple weeks with the high priority paddles (Perseus, 005, 006, SixZero, etc) and then doing first looks for the lower priority paddles. I’d love to spend more time with every paddle, but it just isn’t possible.
@@PickleballStudio I see, that makes sense and sounds reasonable. I thought all of your reviews from now on would be first looks. Yea ideally though if you can include his longer term opinion on these videos that would be good. Also i think it would be interesting to see a video on "before and after" spin tests of some of the most popular paddles to see how much their rpm's decrease after X amount of time
For me, DBD. I prefer the swing weight and shape of the DBD. Both are great paddles though. It’ll just come down to small preferences for each individual.
I have to tell you it’s almost unbearable to watch this video with the courts covered in leaves ..you couldn’t blow the leaves off the court come onnnnnnnnn
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I was able to use a B&B Filth alongside a CRBN1X as well. Very similar paddles. I do think the CRBN has just a tiny bit more power, but very hard to notice. I do think the Filth has a little bit more spin. I noticed this on roll volleys and some touch type shots around the kitchen line. Spin seems exactly the same between the Filth and the CRBN at the baseline. I also think the Filth has a slightly better "feel" than the CRBN. It's more of a connected and lively feel. The CRBN is a great paddle but it just doesn't quite have the same connected feel as the Filth. I prefer the Filth. It also looks awesome.
I've also played with a Vatic Flash 14, 16, and a Legacy Pro. I like the Filth much better than those three.
How did it compare to the legacy far as control and sweet spot?
Not to mention it’s a cool looking paddle! Your videos are getting more and more fun to watch ! 👍👍
Thank you for the review been waiting on this one. Are you doing a vatic alchemy review
You should do a review on the PCKL pickleball paddle set. (I’ve been seeing a lot of ads for them lately and their prices are pretty low for their “pro level paddles)
What would be the bread and butter version of CRBN’s 2x?
Holy cow, Chris. You and bro have the same laugh!
You are a pickleball expert and I love watching your videos.
I see you using the 006 in the clip at 4:50 and I'm getting ANTSY! I WANNA TRY IT!
Ive got this paddle. Very happy with it
Great review...I play with a CRBN1X and love it. Plan to try the Filth. Asked you a while back when you were going to get some of the PBStudio T-shirts for sale...don't want a 3.5 Tshirt.
Great content, as always. Love my CRBN 1X. Always tempted by another paddle tho.... Love the orange Melin hat❤🔥
Have you seen the Shogun from Bread and Butter? Interested to see if the titanium weave is anything more than a marketing play.
I've had my Shogun for a week. Loving it. It's definitely not a power paddle IMHO. Maybe after a break in it will become more powerful.
what has more power 60 double black diamond or filth?
What’s better the bread and butter filth or the ronbus ev2
This paddle is just awesome, OOTB the power and spin were noticably better than my R3.16 plus I haven't had a single issue with pain or discomfort, I was on the edge btwn the flash 14mm, xspak, pulsar 60dbd and this one, guess I made the right choice, thx to PBW for your his advice as well🤙
Great video as always. I’m in the market for a new paddle, and the filth is def a finalist. Thanks again Olsons.
I’ve had a Filth for maybe two weeks. Mine has nowhere near the power, pop, or spin of a CRBN 1X, even with weight added on. My Vatic V7 is a much closer comparison to the CRBN. Has anyone had this issue? I want to love it but so far it’s a let-down :(
100% agree. My CRBN 1X 16mm provides more power and pop (spin seems similar) than the B&B. I like both tbh..but prefer the 1x
Love your reviews. Can you please specify in all your reviews whether the face is smooth or has grit? While I expect all paddles to wear, when I think of grit I expect that will wear sooner.
No raw carbon fiber paddle will ever have added grit. They all get their texture from the raw carbon fiber surface with a peel ply impression. So you never need to worry about spray on grit that’s going to rub off on any thermoformed RCF paddle
@@douglasmurdoch7247 Thank you for clarifying! The word grit is sometimes used in a more general sense which I found confusing. Just started playing with the Ronbus R1 Pulsar and now understand exactly what you are saying. Love the RCF surface.
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I would love to see a review on the ACE Spade or the Diamond. I know that this probably isn't a super popular brand, but I recently tested their Spade and I must say that I am really impressed with what they have going on with their products. Although they only have two paddles released and I have only used one of them, the spin is incredible, the touch is great, and the paddle has a really light body, at least when compared with my main paddle, the Diadem Warrior. The resets and pick ups (off of overheads or speed ups at my feet) are a bit more difficult than with the Warrior, but of course the Warrior is heavier and has more control. On average my shots feel a little faster than with my Warrior, although the Warrior has more speed and power potential with the weight and the solid core with the softer outer layers that bottom out, activating that inner core with harder swings.
I also have incredible spin and my topspin feels amazing, to the point where I never hit a flat drive with the Spade, and it is hard to go back to my Warrior where I can't get as much topspin. I am around 4.0, although I have never truly been rated, but coaches that have watched me play have said that based on my shot variety and selection I am at the very least, above 3.5. Of course, take this with a grain of salt, since I have limited experience in players with verified ratings.
Anyway, I think that ACE has a lot of good things going on for them, and I don't have any way to test specs such as spin and maximum speed. I also love your reviews and the formatting, as well as the listing of pros and cons that you have, and having a rather unbiased perspective. I love your videos, and hope that this comment can gain some support or pique your interest to make this review!!
awesome production quality in this review. the music right before you oopsie'd. the humor. the moments with Aize. the game play quality. awesome stuff guys.
keep up the good work, hopefully other companies start taking cues and start dropping prices
Looked like Sarah Ansbarry (sp) was playing one at MLP today. Might have been a Gamma. How does it compare with the Prism? 100 bucks.
Excellent informative review. The On Court format is the da bomb.
Got my Filth yesterday 🙌🏻
How’s the paddle been doing for you?
Six Zero DBD 14mm vs Filth?
Great review! Question for future podcast with Will: what do you say to someone during a Rec game that tells you your serve is illegal? This was brought up on the Briones podcast and loved the discussion.
Chris, Great new shot. I know a couple of guys who have hit it. They call it the "flipper".
I have read a lot of reviews and they said the sweet spot on the Filth is small did you find this to be true. If you had a choice between Legacy or Filth what would you pick.
Probably Filth for me. Sweet spot didn’t personally feel small.
@@PickleballStudiowhy the filth over the legacy? Which has the better control and larger sweet spot?
You two are like Mario and Luigi!!
Which are the most durable thermoformed paddles in your opinion? (those your brother broke less)
I love the Ronbus pulsar series softest feel of the thermos. I have CRBN, Vatic and a Legacy paddles
@scottfrancis13 How does the ronbus feel compared to ben johns perseus?
Ronbus think may be little softer but more pop and spin
@@scottfrancis13which had more control and largest sweet spot?
Ronbus R1 Pulsar is softer with more control than the LP. Same spin rates and pop same. And as far as I know no delam issues with Ronbus
Pickleball Studio finally makes a dirty video. LOL!!!
I just bought this paddle 45 mins ago before this video dropped! Can’t wait
Have you seen the Bird Ergo? Do you think that paddle style can work?
Why do you think could work? Basically that guy thinks he knows better than all the players or tennis, table tennis and now pickleball. He is talking in his video about how to hit the ball but the movement is always like a shovel, a simple scoop and push - I am using my wrist, how can you to a cut, a top spin, side spin, how fast do you think you cand move your hand with that grip at the kitchen line?
@@notnotnownow9622 I'm not sure, that is why I would like to see a review. I don't think it would prevent you from using your wrist or creating spin for most shots. It is an intriguing idea. I would like to try one, but I don't want to buy it without trying it first.
@@jadenhellewell8854 Look at this video, at their drill around 1.35 min, look at the wrist movement and how many different things that paddle is doing and tell me the Byrd ergo grip would allow you to do the same.
And don't get me wrong, maybe for up to 3.0 could work but I really doubt is any good to a higher level
When are you reviewing 005 and 006?
Thanks for the 20$ discount Chris, just ordered this puppy
Do we have a swing weight yet on the Filth? Edit: you did mention its 125. Pretty high!
The big question: aside from price, crbn1x or filth?
I wouldn't mistake imposter brother for Chris by sight. But by laugh? Impossible to tell the difference.
Same laugh 100 percent. I call it the Minnesota cackle.
It’s definitely a bit softer than 1X but nonetheless, a great quality paddle! Highly recommended
Great review! How do I get that PB Studio shirt? It’s not on your website.
I don't have that one up yet, but I'm considering it.
dude... we have a senior gal in our rec play that hits that shot 2 or 3 times a session make it more than she misses. Weak backhand and goes for it as an alternative always shocked when she pulls it off
4:35 they even laugh similarly
Nice comparison
I was looking at legacy is breaking still an issue??? I am looking to upgrade my game.
From what I have seen, Legacies still break a lot. Everyone in my local area who has one seems to have broken 1 or 2. No idea what the actual break rate is though.
@@PickleballStudiowhat do you mean by break?? Please elaborate. I have 3 legacy’s and they feel great and have never broken
@@PickleballStudio that's crazy cause that's one of there selling points.
I have two Legacy's and neither of them seem broken to me. One I have had since middle of March, I did buy the second one because of all the talk of breaking, just in case, since I do like the paddle a lot. I have read of core crushing, but both of mine sound fine, all seems good, I play 2-3 times a week.
Lol Chris’s brother looks like the elven version of him.
Hey guys, i was wondering if you guys can recommend or give advice for me. I have been using a selkirk lightweight amped epic for a few years on nd off due to work. I'm looking to upgrade my paddle nd start taking the game more seriously joining tournaments and matches. Any recommendations or advice? I play more dinking, keeping the ball low/ taking it out of the air but starting to learn more about drives, spins etc. I was looking to try the legacy pro, the six zero double black diamond 16mm or the selkirk labs 003 invikta
Six Zero DBD and Legacy Pro are both great. Probably the top 2 on the market right now imo. Ronbus Pulsar is also very good. Gruvn has now entered the unibody with foam injected and sealed perimeter market. They are availble for pre-order. I imagine they will be excellent as well.
Id put the Ronbus Pulsar above the Legacy love the R1 with the 5.5 grip. Ive hit a DBD 14mm and fact felt hard. Havent hit the Filth but own a couple 1x
@@scottfrancis13why the r1 over the legacy? Which had a larger sweet spot and better control?
Got my sub and used your code! Can't wait for it to arrive....
This was hilarious!
Informative, yet - hilarious.
The cold open - I guess that's the right term... only change.. maybe some ballet music. Swan Lake ?
Younger brother - dude looks lanky. He's like 5 inches taller?
Pretty close to 5 inches, yeah haha.
That shot is called The Flipper!
Every video I see says the paddle has some weight but mine is supper light
Hope they make a standard-shape model (16x8 with 5-inch handle). Also, Chris's brother looks nothing like him...
how come PBstudio is 10% but PickleballWill is 15%? who got more love? lol
Its not that i dont like the “first look” videos, but as a consumer id prefer to know what you think of the paddle and how it plays after using it for a couple of weeks at least. Performance over time is a very important attribute when it comes to paddles and this type of video cannot cover that aspect. In this video his brother does go over the longer term stuff but i dont think thats the case in most of these first look videos
That’s why I had my brother in it.
The unfortunate fact is that it isn’t possible to cover every paddle that comes out if I spend multiple weeks on it.
Im spending multiple weeks with the high priority paddles (Perseus, 005, 006, SixZero, etc) and then doing first looks for the lower priority paddles.
I’d love to spend more time with every paddle, but it just isn’t possible.
@@PickleballStudio I see, that makes sense and sounds reasonable. I thought all of your reviews from now on would be first looks. Yea ideally though if you can include his longer term opinion on these videos that would be good. Also i think it would be interesting to see a video on "before and after" spin tests of some of the most popular paddles to see how much their rpm's decrease after X amount of time
These prices are a little much for just a paddle 😢.
Much more head heavy and not as soft as the 1x
Too bad it is marked as "unavailable". 🤷♂️
Ngl I reaaaally do not like the way the Crbn feels. I think it’s like the the dbd in the way that people either love it or hate it.
What’s up guys
I hit that shot a few times
You can see crbn has more pop
Great video. Sad that you broke your hip in the first 5 minutes.
DBD or Filth? Lots of choices happening in that $ space
For me, DBD. I prefer the swing weight and shape of the DBD. Both are great paddles though. It’ll just come down to small preferences for each individual.
DBD is a shorter paddle depends on if you want elongated for more reach or faster at net.
I own both paddles and I seem to have settled with the filth!
I ended up on the Ronbus R3 Pulsar and love it!
Ok yes better looking and not 3.5, but pretty much the same laugh as the 3.5 at best brother.
FILTH..y shot you got there
nice 006
I have to publicly apologize to u. Seen a gazillion reviews and got u confused with someone else
I have to tell you it’s almost unbearable to watch this video with the courts covered in leaves ..you couldn’t blow the leaves off the court come onnnnnnnnn
We did blow them off lol. It was far worse before
New onix paddles? Mayhem and the carbon?
I do have those (Not the carbon) and want to get to them at some point.