I recently got a new set of Pirelli P Zero for my Mercedes. They offer excellent grip, handling, and responsiveness, which really complement the sporty nature of the car. I truly enjoy the traction that they provide in various conditions. Amazing tires, totally worth the high price tag. I recommend. 👌🏽
In my experience the Pirelli P Zero deliver truly exceptional performance, precise steering feel, cornering stability, and braking performance, which for me are essential characteristics. You can have real fun driving with these tires. Had the Bridgestone in the past but they are not quite as good overall. I prioritize performance and handling in my driving experience, that’s why for me the Pirelli P Zero tires are the best choice hands down.
I just had Continental SC7 put on my XJR since they finally released the size for the rears - totally transformative compared to the OE P-Zero. It's the first time since owning the car that full acceleration on a slip road was fully stable with no slip or shimmy of any kind. So far delighted but it hasn't rained yet, so we shall see! I'm, not a fan of the P-Zero at all I'm afraid, 4 successive Jaguars have been fitted with them (S-Type R, XFR, XJR, XJR575) and every one had: problems with grip especially in the damp or cold, problems with tramlining in lorry ruts, problems with sidewall cracks inside of 3 years, problems with skewing and slipping on hard lock at slow speeds like pulling out of a driveway. One set of replacements weren't even round and turned into a warranty nightmare.
Maybe the P-Zeros require some heat. I had Kumho PS-91's as fronts for my BMW 435i and I had to put in work for them to grip. Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 are well liked but they where on my M4 when I bought it and it's a useless tire. Squeeling and overheats way to easy. Only good in the rain. Both Yokohama Advan V107 and Bridgestone Potenza Sport are miles better.
@@Salpeteroxid To be honest though, for a car which will spend most or all of its life being used as a daily, a tyre that needs warming up before it works at all, is not a good tyre. The P-Zero weren't great even in summer - I've experienced the SC7 in all types of weather now, they're fantastic and I think anyone who goes with them won't be disappointed. The first immediate thing I noticed was the skewing and 'jumping' on full lock at parking etc speed - totally gone, even in the frost.
@@system11yt I don't like tires that doesn't work cold (like the Kumho PS-91's) and I don't like tires that doesn't work hot (Hankook Evo3). If you only daily and want a really nice tire you should really try the Yokohama Advan V107 when your SC7's are done. I'll try the SC7's, good price on their 305/30r19 compared to other brands
I was under the impression that the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 was not really an UHP tire, pending the 5S or S5 and the current UHP is the 4S. Given its ubiquity, I would have loved to seen the 4S in this test. Much obliged if you would include the 4S in the next test.
@@TheAngelicDemise I had Continental sc7 and man, never had a uhp like it.. perfect under every aspect, especially while turning. But.. there is always a catch: tyre wear. If you have lot of torque or you stress them too much they wear in 10000km.. i will buy another set next year but i think 15-20000 km is the maximum duration for this tyre
Thanks for the review! I’m on the pzero pz4 and their threadwear are bad. Only 18,000 km in and the tyres are down to the wear mark. My previous set of Eagle F1A5s lasted 34,000 km before reaching the wear mark. Tyres are rotated every 6000 -8000km. Replacing the pzero pz4s with F1A6s in the next couple of days. They were fun but short lived.
yeah the pay of an uhp tyre, the fastest a tyre can corner the fastest it will wear out that is the price. Analogical, you have to sacrifise more (tyre wear) if you want to gain a little more of handling. Have you ever experience ps cup 2 tyres? OH mate you will see what real tyre wear is all about
Which car is that on? Mine have been wearing a little quickly but it's a heavy powerful car, M340D. Previous wisdom was to ditch the run flats and go for ps4s star marked from the M3. I am not so sure, I really like how these Pirelli tyres drive, the whole package with the car just works really nice.
Let's be honest. The Michelin PS5 is not the Sport or Super version like the previous gen PS4S which was exceptional. It would be a more level playing field to pit the Pilot Sport S 5(whenever it actually gets released) versus the SportContact7, Potenza Sport, and PZero.
Hi. I love your content. Can you makes a video about all Pirelli tyres and which are which? There’s so many like PZ4, PZ4 E, PZ4 Corsa, PS4 Corsa system, Trofeo R/RS, Cinturato, etc. it’s hard to choose which one for my car. And other brands too.
The one characteristics that was not dealt here is the mileage. We know traditionally that the Bridgestone UHPs do not last long and my own experience from Conti is the same. The longest lasting tyres under my 996 (18 inch wheels limit for me) seem to be Michelin PS2, say 15 000 km, Good Year As6 13 000 km (prediction after 1500 km). My all time favorite tyre has been Potenza S02A and they lasted appr. 10 000 km but the Conti SC2 only 6000 km. (A 911 always wears out its rear tyres, fronts seem to last over a forever). How long tyres last is very very very important. The more limited your budget the more important it is. In practice it is much more important than if one tyre is 0.5 secs faster on a track than another. These really are not track tyres yet. Traditionally the strong point of Bridgestone has been the sidewalls. Bridgestone seems to emphasize the bending and rotational stiffness of the tyre tube. This reflects as a very good steering feel and accuracy. The opposite end is usually considered to be Michelin with the traditional X-radial philosophy with soft sidewalls but very stable contact surface. The same level of grip but in a more sluggish way. To me the SC2 was a big big disappointment, very sluggish and inaccurate compared to even Michelin and then really poor mileage. Of course SC2 is not SC7. I can not feel much difference between PS2 and As6. I could not distinguish them from each other. I like both but I would prefer stiffer side wall for both. For my second set I will get next spring most likely PS4S whch should be a step from the PS2. I hope Bridgestone will soon make a UHP/UUHP tyre in 18 size that last longer because their build philosophy is the right one for me. If I would go flat out to my (modest) limit I would say my accuracy with PS2 would be 10-20 cm. With a Bridgestone it is 10 cm give or take. Anyway, significantly more accurate. However, I can not tell which one has more grip. Both have plenty as do the As6. I know Steve Sutchcliff is a fantastic top level tin top racer and car tester but frankly I don't know anyone else praising Pirellis????? I know quite a few professional tyre testers and I have worked for at least three different customers in the field although Im a not tyre tester per ce but I know quite alot about tyres.
Just ordered the Potenza Sport for my meg4 Megane RS300 based on Sutcliffe advice. I'm lucky enough to have 2 set of wheels so one for the road with road tyres and 1 for the track with RE71RS semi slicks. Can't wait to see how the Potenza sport go in wet and dry road conditions. I always rate Steve Sutcliffe advice on cars and tyres. By far the best UK journalist there is and by god... can that man pedal a fast car on circuit!
Le potenza sport et beaucoup moins bien que le continental sport Contact 7 et de loin il est même meilleur que beaucoup de semi slick j ai une Léon cupra et aucune Mégane RS arrive à me suivre tellement les pneus colle a la route
Short and sweet 😊 Always enjoy uhp or uuhp summer tyre tests. No major flaws highlighted and all doing a reasonable job. But, temperature in wonderful Italy at the time of testing, might be favouring the Bridgestone and pirelli somewhat...? I know the current pzeros, presumably still labelled pz4's, aren't verging on shite vs the previous mould when it comes to rain. I had them on a '67 i30N performance pack 😮 They were atrocious when in cooler conditions too! I replaced with ps4s's. Arguably one of the best uuhp summer tyres when hovering just above 0 celcius!!Significantly better in the wet, but still rubbish re bunny hopping on that chassis.😡😂 My replacement GR Yaris, convenience pack, was stripped from the average dunlop sp sport maxx 050's, lol..., before collection! Assymetric 5's shodded and brilliant dry and wet. I wish I'd actually put them on the N for better steering feel/firmer sidewalls vs the replacement ps4s's! For my GR4, with the nicer daily standard suspension and the far better convenience pack spec as a daily😉, they were great. I'm now on Assymetric 6's, which aren't any better in the dry, imo, but definitely superior in the wet!! All, very enthusiastic road driving as a daily, but leaving esc on. It flashes at times in the dry, much less when wet. I did consider the csc7 but they were still limited in 225 40 18 at the time. The previous pirelli experience has given me little confidence and I've seen too many Bridgestone sport reviews re horrendous tyre wear, albeit likely a track/heat issue only?! Once the 6's are close to 2-3 mm, I'll reassess the latest offerings and, maybe, give the contis further research and a punt🙂
I've been watching tyre reviews for quite some time but thought id give another channel a try just for comparison. I've watched a few of your videos and they are okay but theres a massive flaw in the way you review. You show unconscious bias by not blind testing. I was with you when you spoke about how a tyres can transform a car. I have a TM3 and went from 18 inch PS4 to the CSC7 on 19s. I wanted a summer and all season set. Im not sure how much difference an inch makes by CSC7s are just flipping amazing. I didnt think there would be that much difference in tyres, not like switching motorcycle tyres but how wrong was I! I will now what the rest of the video but without blind testing I'm not quite sure how good your review can be.
This looks more like an 'U-UHP' test with the P-Zero, SportContact 7. Bit odd to compare such U-UHP tyres against UHP tyres like the PS5 and EagleF1 A6. Of course the U-UHP tyres come out on top of the more comfort oriented UHP tyres. Missed opportunity to have a more like-for-like test, comparing the P-Zero and SC7 against e.g. the Eagle F1 SuperSport and (regretfully the now old) PS4S, or to compare the PS5 and Eagle F1 A6 against the PremiumContact 7. That would have been a more informative test.
I had 225/45/17 Potenza Sport on 2013 Ford Focus ST (250 hp)--which i choose by the way after watching your videos :) Thanks Good --> When NEW amazing, tried them in the WET with speeds straight and corner that NO ONE should attempt and no issue, in the dry amazing. Very SAFE tire, i have tried doing the WRONG things when i start, stop, turn into corner , exit from corner NO Problem. I told my wife EVEN if you do something stupid with these tires they will save you. YOU HAVE TO WANT to crash otherwise the tires move and stop like crazy.... Bad --> NOT FOR THE TRACK --IF you plan on taking them to the track, the WEAR was so bad that after 2 sessions my front right tire was looking very bad, they seem to not like it when you go to the track BUT i did have a pretty good time with them. I did try zestino gredgre 07r on the track and they were AMAZING no issues with wear , i have been dailying them ever since i put them on as the steering feels so much better and they seem to absorb the bumps on regular roads much better than the Potenza Sport and the car feels better in every conceivable way. I tried the Zestinos in light rain ABSOLUTELY no issues, not sure about standing water and heavy rain though soooo.... I am the only driver now with these tires so i can test them in the WET as i dont trust them to let anyone drive them until i know what they are capable of. I will update once a proper RAIN comes.... I am looking forward to try the Potenza Race next year for a tire i can drive around and do around 4 track days per year ....
How long did the potenza sport last on your car(km and track days please)?. Feedback like yours and many reviews online are keeping me off the potenza sport which would be ideal for my road use but don't cope well with track days according to what you guys experienced already. My car has similar power and weight (I guess) of yours even though it is RWD. I also struggle to find tires for the back being them 245/40-17. I was thinking AD09 but they are not available, A052 were almost 1,200 Euro installed (double the price of the tires in this test, I had the PS5 which really last long and grip well in every condition but are not good on track since they become greasy after one lap and the steering feel is so and so) so I tried the Nankang AR1 for less than 900 Euro. Steering feel, grip and feedback are astounding, my car has never driven so well, but there is not much thread left after 3000km and 2 half day at the track. I think I will use them for 2-3 more track day if they keep up and then throw them away. They are also incredibly noisy (make the car feel cheap in a sense) and "agricultural" (vibrations). I do 4 to max 7 track day per year too and I'm starting to think the best solution would be buying a set of wheels and put the nankang or some semi-slick on them so that I can run any of these tires tested here on the road with the OEM wheels. I have another car in Hong Kong where I normally live which runs on Bridgestone 71RS and they are a fantastic tire which is lasting longer than the nankang and behave like a normal tire on the road (on a 800kg car though) but which are also not available in Europe....Zestino are common in Hong Kong but hard to find in Italy.
the big problem with performance tires is that they wear out very quickly the pz4 and bad when it is too hot the potenza sport deteriorates quickly the Goodyear f1 supersport and bad in the rain and the continental sport Contact 7 and a tire superior to the others but lasted 1500km on the front axle of my leon cupra so which tires to choose? I tried all the sport tires and for me the continental sport Contact 7 and the best choice despite the very rapid wear in the mountains
Well, the goodyear supersport's do have excellent wear characteristics for hard driving. I did 4 laps on the Nürburgring, and after they had cooled down you couldn't even tell they had seen trackwork. I'm on probably around 15-20k KMs on my set on high torque FWD cars, and still have at the least 4mm left.
The supersport is still the UUHP tire, and has not been replaced, it has just unfortunately been forgotten by most. But it is an absolute monster in dry handling and road feel, I just put mine on after a season of winter tires, and they are literally insane.
Everyones saying the same thing, the tests need to be blind otherwise you cant give unbiased views. If i told you before you drove my car the tyres were utter crap youd look for fault, if i told you theyre the grippiest things ever youd push harder and do better lap times. Pre conception is real. Tyre reviews rated the conti sc7 as best, i got a set for my slk55 on the strength of that and other top reviews and they are a definate improvement over the bridgestones i had before... or maybe i just think they're better cos the tests said they were! Maybe the real takaway here is that all the premium tyres these days are closely matched and good enough for most of us.
Touring would call for the Primacy 4+. The PS4/PS5 is still the UHP offering in the sizes it is offered. 205/55 R16 hardly so 225/45 R17 more so Brands with only one U/UUHP model can't make this distinction
I have used the potenza sport very good tires but very very rapid wear because depth 6.5mm new the zero and medium p when it is too hot and the continental sport Contact 7 and the best but very rapid wear also maximum 2000km on the front axle on my leon cupra 310hp the tires now are less resistant than before softer rubber more grip but rapid wear I have tried all the tires and the continental sport Contact 7 and for me the best dry and rainy
i have 2 questions, is that pirelli p-zero the pz4? And second why at other tests Gdy eagle f1 as6 performs better than Michelin ps5, is the size playing a role?
I've just fitted the Conti sport contact 7 to my Jaguar XF S, replacing Pilot sport 4s that had covered 26k miles. I am not a road tester by any stretch of the imagination but I feel the conti although very strong in all the wet/dry grip and braking they don't have the sporty feeling of the PS4s.
@KenEdwardsz that's exactly what I was looking for. How they feel on the Jag XF S when driving daily normally in cities & dynamically when roads allow - the SC7 or PS4S ? Also in terms on comfort on bad roads/asphalt - which one ?
@@alieman9154 I am still not sure how long the SC7 will last. I have only done 5k miles on them. I fitted them based on the reviews at the time and because they were £50 cheaper than the PS4S. It's a tough choice!
I'm quite disappointed by the review after watching the video by tyre reviews your video does not give much information about the balance and the feel .. anyone looking for a proper review on these tyres check out the channel tyre reviews
I've had p-zeros on my car and they were truly awful, went with the michelin ps4s after that which wore down quicker than a pencil being sharpened, put the goodyears asym 6s on and they are wearing the best of all am thinking to try the contis tho hopefully they'll release the sport contact 7s in all sizes soon enough tho
Sorry but i can't really give much credence to these tests. First of all he seems to know which tyres he's driving on so introduces conscious/unconscious bias. Secondly the pirelli was middle of the road in nearly all tests coming top in only one yet some how is overall winner? Literally nobody i know in car forums etc rates the pirelli much at all. The pirelli is often stated as poor in the wet and as it ages becomes stiff and slippy. Other you tube tests generally have them middle at best only really beating budget tyres. Had them on an R8 and changed them for MPS4S and the difference was marked. Way better all round. Secondly, the test results are, other than the lap times, completely meaningless! What the hell are percentages supposed to mean? Percentage of what? Braking should be given in distances! How can you measure handling as a percentage!!!
Maybe you are easily blinded by what you heard but he is more knowledgeable than you and me so i trust him plus Pirelli is a good tyre imo. F1 use them and many others use them.
It is simple, in this test he dose not care about price, wear, fuel.... just pure driving. I, for example, live in a dry country, so I don't care much about wet, only dry, so every one should take what he wants and needs from all these test.
The PZ4 (and PZC4) score well in the wet. The PZ4 is by no means the best tyre in the segment, but it is a respectable tyre nonetheless. They are usually suffering in the projected mileage and rolling resistance metrics.
Agan, pretty pointless test. 25c wet, where on earth have you seen those conditions? Why test it in Italy for UK viewers. Just doesn't make sense at all. Test it between 10 and 18c and you'll see how potenza sport and pirelli are crap in wet in those temperatures
Tyre tests are rarely ever conducted in the uk. Funnily enough this translates fantastically for where I live. Seems like you’ll be complaining about basically every tyre review, ever. Also, I’ve driven both the P-Zero and Potenza sport in the temperatures you’ve stated and they still perform brilliantly.
@@paulf3353 That’s not really the point of a summer UHP tyre though is it. Rarely outside of the UK are they constantly driven in under 10°C whether. I live in Australia and drive an Audi S3 8V. It came with P-Zero’s and they performed great, even in temps below 10°C imo. Of course tyres need a little heat before performing though. The only complaint I have with P-Zero’s is the soft sidewall that will bubble with the smallest pothole. Currently on Potenza sports and it’s actually hard to say there’s a better UHP road tyre on sale currently.
@@RyRyMTD Well, this review is meant for UK auditory, so that's my point. Normally you have summer and winter tyres, true, but realistically almost everyone is using summer tyres at those temps, especially in the UK, where people doesn't know what either winter tyres are or they think it is only for countries with a lot of snow. I agree, this review may work in Australia, but that's not its targeted auditory.
@@paulf3353 The biggest tyre review channels on RUclips are English. So by their channel size alone they can’t be reviewing tyres solely based on the UK customer. If you want reviews solely aimed at the UK then do what you said and read independent reviews online. Let’s face it, most people run all seasons anyway.
I recently got a new set of Pirelli P Zero for my Mercedes.
They offer excellent grip, handling, and responsiveness, which really complement the sporty nature of the car. I truly enjoy the traction that they provide in various conditions.
Amazing tires, totally worth the high price tag. I recommend. 👌🏽
In my experience the Pirelli P Zero deliver truly exceptional performance, precise steering feel, cornering stability, and braking performance, which for me are essential characteristics. You can have real fun driving with these tires.
Had the Bridgestone in the past but they are not quite as good overall. I prioritize performance and handling in my driving experience, that’s why for me the Pirelli P Zero tires are the best choice hands down.
I just had Continental SC7 put on my XJR since they finally released the size for the rears - totally transformative compared to the OE P-Zero. It's the first time since owning the car that full acceleration on a slip road was fully stable with no slip or shimmy of any kind. So far delighted but it hasn't rained yet, so we shall see!
I'm, not a fan of the P-Zero at all I'm afraid, 4 successive Jaguars have been fitted with them (S-Type R, XFR, XJR, XJR575) and every one had: problems with grip especially in the damp or cold, problems with tramlining in lorry ruts, problems with sidewall cracks inside of 3 years, problems with skewing and slipping on hard lock at slow speeds like pulling out of a driveway. One set of replacements weren't even round and turned into a warranty nightmare.
Maybe the P-Zeros require some heat. I had Kumho PS-91's as fronts for my BMW 435i and I had to put in work for them to grip. Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 are well liked but they where on my M4 when I bought it and it's a useless tire. Squeeling and overheats way to easy. Only good in the rain. Both Yokohama Advan V107 and Bridgestone Potenza Sport are miles better.
@@Salpeteroxid To be honest though, for a car which will spend most or all of its life being used as a daily, a tyre that needs warming up before it works at all, is not a good tyre. The P-Zero weren't great even in summer - I've experienced the SC7 in all types of weather now, they're fantastic and I think anyone who goes with them won't be disappointed. The first immediate thing I noticed was the skewing and 'jumping' on full lock at parking etc speed - totally gone, even in the frost.
@@system11yt I don't like tires that doesn't work cold (like the Kumho PS-91's) and I don't like tires that doesn't work hot (Hankook Evo3). If you only daily and want a really nice tire you should really try the Yokohama Advan V107 when your SC7's are done. I'll try the SC7's, good price on their 305/30r19 compared to other brands
I was under the impression that the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 was not really an UHP tire, pending the 5S or S5 and the current UHP is the 4S. Given its ubiquity, I would have loved to seen the 4S in this test. Much obliged if you would include the 4S in the next test.
the 4s is more of a UUHP and the Sport contact 7 is more of a UUHP tyre as well. the 5 is a UHP
@@TheAngelicDemise I had Continental sc7 and man, never had a uhp like it.. perfect under every aspect, especially while turning. But.. there is always a catch: tyre wear. If you have lot of torque or you stress them too much they wear in 10000km.. i will buy another set next year but i think 15-20000 km is the maximum duration for this tyre
@shadow6687 gotta agree with that assessment. Absolutely amazing tyre but the wear on my gti clubsport is nuts
Thanks for the review! I’m on the pzero pz4 and their threadwear are bad. Only 18,000 km in and the tyres are down to the wear mark. My previous set of Eagle F1A5s lasted 34,000 km before reaching the wear mark. Tyres are rotated every 6000 -8000km. Replacing the pzero pz4s with F1A6s in the next couple of days. They were fun but short lived.
yeah the pay of an uhp tyre, the fastest a tyre can corner the fastest it will wear out that is the price. Analogical, you have to sacrifise more (tyre wear) if you want to gain a little more of handling. Have you ever experience ps cup 2 tyres? OH mate you will see what real tyre wear is all about
Which car is that on? Mine have been wearing a little quickly but it's a heavy powerful car, M340D. Previous wisdom was to ditch the run flats and go for ps4s star marked from the M3. I am not so sure, I really like how these Pirelli tyres drive, the whole package with the car just works really nice.
@@neilhaughey6869 A4 B9 with OEM+ Stage 1
Let's be honest. The Michelin PS5 is not the Sport or Super version like the previous gen PS4S which was exceptional. It would be a more level playing field to pit the Pilot Sport S 5(whenever it actually gets released) versus the SportContact7, Potenza Sport, and PZero.
let them beleiving it, as they'll change the P zero more often ;)
Hi. I love your content. Can you makes a video about all Pirelli tyres and which are which? There’s so many like PZ4, PZ4 E, PZ4 Corsa, PS4 Corsa system, Trofeo R/RS, Cinturato, etc. it’s hard to choose which one for my car. And other brands too.
What's your car to start with?
Just looking for new set of tires for next season for my N Performance. So lets see what I am going to buy 😁
The one characteristics that was not dealt here is the mileage. We know traditionally that the Bridgestone UHPs do not last long and my own experience from Conti is the same. The longest lasting tyres under my 996 (18 inch wheels limit for me) seem to be Michelin PS2, say 15 000 km, Good Year As6 13 000 km (prediction after 1500 km). My all time favorite tyre has been Potenza S02A and they lasted appr. 10 000 km but the Conti SC2 only 6000 km. (A 911 always wears out its rear tyres, fronts seem to last over a forever).
How long tyres last is very very very important. The more limited your budget the more important it is. In practice it is much more important than if one tyre is 0.5 secs faster on a track than another. These really are not track tyres yet.
Traditionally the strong point of Bridgestone has been the sidewalls. Bridgestone seems to emphasize the bending and rotational stiffness of the tyre tube. This reflects as a very good steering feel and accuracy. The opposite end is usually considered to be Michelin with the traditional X-radial philosophy with soft sidewalls but very stable contact surface. The same level of grip but in a more sluggish way. To me the SC2 was a big big disappointment, very sluggish and inaccurate compared to even Michelin and then really poor mileage. Of course SC2 is not SC7. I can not feel much difference between PS2 and As6. I could not distinguish them from each other. I like both but I would prefer stiffer side wall for both. For my second set I will get next spring most likely PS4S whch should be a step from the PS2.
I hope Bridgestone will soon make a UHP/UUHP tyre in 18 size that last longer because their build philosophy is the right one for me. If I would go flat out to my (modest) limit I would say my accuracy with PS2 would be 10-20 cm. With a Bridgestone it is 10 cm give or take. Anyway, significantly more accurate. However, I can not tell which one has more grip. Both have plenty as do the As6.
I know Steve Sutchcliff is a fantastic top level tin top racer and car tester but frankly I don't know anyone else praising Pirellis????? I know quite a few professional tyre testers and I have worked for at least three different customers in the field although Im a not tyre tester per ce but I know quite alot about tyres.
Just ordered the Potenza Sport for my meg4 Megane RS300 based on Sutcliffe advice. I'm lucky enough to have 2 set of wheels so one for the road with road tyres and 1 for the track with RE71RS semi slicks. Can't wait to see how the Potenza sport go in wet and dry road conditions. I always rate Steve Sutcliffe advice on cars and tyres. By far the best UK journalist there is and by god... can that man pedal a fast car on circuit!
Le potenza sport et beaucoup moins bien que le continental sport Contact 7 et de loin il est même meilleur que beaucoup de semi slick j ai une Léon cupra et aucune Mégane RS arrive à me suivre tellement les pneus colle a la route
@@Nalafraser The wear on the Bridgestone is very high for track and they are expensive too
I just changed from potenza ( 👎🏼) to Goodyear
Unless you're doing regular track days, just stick with the Michelin's, they'll outlast all the others.
Short and sweet 😊
Always enjoy uhp or uuhp summer tyre tests.
No major flaws highlighted and all doing a reasonable job.
But, temperature in wonderful Italy at the time of testing, might be favouring the Bridgestone and pirelli somewhat...?
I know the current pzeros, presumably still labelled pz4's, aren't verging on shite vs the previous mould when it comes to rain. I had them on a '67 i30N performance pack 😮 They were atrocious when in cooler conditions too!
I replaced with ps4s's. Arguably one of the best uuhp summer tyres when hovering just above 0 celcius!!Significantly better in the wet, but still rubbish re bunny hopping on that chassis.😡😂
My replacement GR Yaris, convenience pack, was stripped from the average dunlop sp sport maxx 050's, lol..., before collection! Assymetric 5's shodded and brilliant dry and wet.
I wish I'd actually put them on the N for better steering feel/firmer sidewalls vs the replacement ps4s's!
For my GR4, with the nicer daily standard suspension and the far better convenience pack spec as a daily😉, they were great.
I'm now on Assymetric 6's, which aren't any better in the dry, imo, but definitely superior in the wet!!
All, very enthusiastic road driving as a daily, but leaving esc on.
It flashes at times in the dry, much less when wet.
I did consider the csc7 but they were still limited in 225 40 18 at the time.
The previous pirelli experience has given me little confidence and I've seen too many Bridgestone sport reviews re horrendous tyre wear, albeit likely a track/heat issue only?!
Once the 6's are close to 2-3 mm, I'll reassess the latest offerings and, maybe, give the contis further research and a punt🙂
Temperature makes huge difference for pirelli and bridgestone. Under 15c if not heated up, performance degrade rapidly.
I've been watching tyre reviews for quite some time but thought id give another channel a try just for comparison.
I've watched a few of your videos and they are okay but theres a massive flaw in the way you review. You show unconscious bias by not blind testing.
I was with you when you spoke about how a tyres can transform a car. I have a TM3 and went from 18 inch PS4 to the CSC7 on 19s. I wanted a summer and all season set.
Im not sure how much difference an inch makes by CSC7s are just flipping amazing.
I didnt think there would be that much difference in tyres, not like switching motorcycle tyres but how wrong was I!
I will now what the rest of the video but without blind testing I'm not quite sure how good your review can be.
An inch is a MASSIVE difference. Much less sidewall (if you have the same circumference) so it will feel MUCH sharper.
This looks more like an 'U-UHP' test with the P-Zero, SportContact 7. Bit odd to compare such U-UHP tyres against UHP tyres like the PS5 and EagleF1 A6. Of course the U-UHP tyres come out on top of the more comfort oriented UHP tyres.
Missed opportunity to have a more like-for-like test, comparing the P-Zero and SC7 against e.g. the Eagle F1 SuperSport and (regretfully the now old) PS4S, or to compare the PS5 and Eagle F1 A6 against the PremiumContact 7. That would have been a more informative test.
I had 225/45/17 Potenza Sport on 2013 Ford Focus ST (250 hp)--which i choose by the way after watching your videos :) Thanks
Good --> When NEW amazing, tried them in the WET with speeds straight and corner that NO ONE should attempt and no issue, in the dry amazing. Very SAFE tire, i have tried doing the WRONG things when i start, stop, turn into corner , exit from corner NO Problem. I told my wife EVEN if you do something stupid with these tires they will save you. YOU HAVE TO WANT to crash otherwise the tires move and stop like crazy....
Bad --> NOT FOR THE TRACK --IF you plan on taking them to the track, the WEAR was so bad that after 2 sessions my front right tire was looking very bad, they seem to not like it when you go to the track BUT i did have a pretty good time with them.
I did try zestino gredgre 07r on the track and they were AMAZING no issues with wear , i have been dailying them ever since i put them on as the steering feels so much better and they seem to absorb the bumps on regular roads much better than the Potenza Sport and the car feels better in every conceivable way. I tried the Zestinos in light rain ABSOLUTELY no issues, not sure about standing water and heavy rain though soooo.... I am the only driver now with these tires so i can test them in the WET as i dont trust them to let anyone drive them until i know what they are capable of. I will update once a proper RAIN comes....
I am looking forward to try the Potenza Race next year for a tire i can drive around and do around 4 track days per year ....
How long did the potenza sport last on your car(km and track days please)?. Feedback like yours and many reviews online are keeping me off the potenza sport which would be ideal for my road use but don't cope well with track days according to what you guys experienced already. My car has similar power and weight (I guess) of yours even though it is RWD. I also struggle to find tires for the back being them 245/40-17. I was thinking AD09 but they are not available, A052 were almost 1,200 Euro installed (double the price of the tires in this test, I had the PS5 which really last long and grip well in every condition but are not good on track since they become greasy after one lap and the steering feel is so and so) so I tried the Nankang AR1 for less than 900 Euro. Steering feel, grip and feedback are astounding, my car has never driven so well, but there is not much thread left after 3000km and 2 half day at the track. I think I will use them for 2-3 more track day if they keep up and then throw them away. They are also incredibly noisy (make the car feel cheap in a sense) and "agricultural" (vibrations). I do 4 to max 7 track day per year too and I'm starting to think the best solution would be buying a set of wheels and put the nankang or some semi-slick on them so that I can run any of these tires tested here on the road with the OEM wheels. I have another car in Hong Kong where I normally live which runs on Bridgestone 71RS and they are a fantastic tire which is lasting longer than the nankang and behave like a normal tire on the road (on a 800kg car though) but which are also not available in Europe....Zestino are common in Hong Kong but hard to find in Italy.
Which was the quietest and the most comfortable?
If you are asking these questions these tires aren't for you. Get a tire more towards comfort and sound dampening foam blocks.
Everyone has different needs sound and comfort is a perfectly fine question to ask.
Asym6 will be one of the quietest
How about Falken fk520 ?
the big problem with performance tires is that they wear out very quickly the pz4 and bad when it is too hot the potenza sport deteriorates quickly the Goodyear f1 supersport and bad in the rain and the continental sport Contact 7 and a tire superior to the others but lasted 1500km on the front axle of my leon cupra so which tires to choose? I tried all the sport tires and for me the continental sport Contact 7 and the best choice despite the very rapid wear in the mountains
Well, the goodyear supersport's do have excellent wear characteristics for hard driving. I did 4 laps on the Nürburgring, and after they had cooled down you couldn't even tell they had seen trackwork. I'm on probably around 15-20k KMs on my set on high torque FWD cars, and still have at the least 4mm left.
unfortunately the sport contact 7 doesn't seem to come in 18 inch like any of the rivals. The goodyear has always been my choice
Certainly does. Fitting 225.40 18 in a couple days
@@matk22 I need 255/35/18 for the rear, can’t find it in that size
What happen to the Goodyear SuperSport? it seems like Goodyear "replaced" it with the Asym 6 since all test don't take the SS but the Asym 6.
The supersport is still the UUHP tire, and has not been replaced, it has just unfortunately been forgotten by most. But it is an absolute monster in dry handling and road feel, I just put mine on after a season of winter tires, and they are literally insane.
I've got p zero (pz4) runflats on my bmw. Are these the same rubber and tread as the ones on test?
Not sure if i should get the conti's
the only tester which find strange results compared to 95% of other testers! 😆
Everyones saying the same thing, the tests need to be blind otherwise you cant give unbiased views.
If i told you before you drove my car the tyres were utter crap youd look for fault, if i told you theyre the grippiest things ever youd push harder and do better lap times. Pre conception is real.
Tyre reviews rated the conti sc7 as best, i got a set for my slk55 on the strength of that and other top reviews and they are a definate improvement over the bridgestones i had before... or maybe i just think they're better cos the tests said they were!
Maybe the real takaway here is that all the premium tyres these days are closely matched and good enough for most of us.
The Michelin PS5 is classed as a touring tire, you should of had the PS4s instead until the new PS5s is available.
Touring would call for the Primacy 4+. The PS4/PS5 is still the UHP offering in the sizes it is offered.
205/55 R16 hardly so
225/45 R17 more so
Brands with only one U/UUHP model can't make this distinction
It's Vizzola for wet. Good track！
I have used the potenza sport very good tires but very very rapid wear because depth 6.5mm new the zero and medium p when it is too hot and the continental sport Contact 7 and the best but very rapid wear also maximum 2000km on the front axle on my leon cupra 310hp the tires now are less resistant than before softer rubber more grip but rapid wear I have tried all the tires and the continental sport Contact 7 and for me the best dry and rainy
i have 2 questions, is that pirelli p-zero the pz4? And second why at other tests Gdy eagle f1 as6 performs better than Michelin ps5, is the size playing a role?
Both tires (Goodyear and Bridgestone) are very good, so you don't need to worry :)
@@konradoo10 sure, but i am questioning for a specific research that keep me wondering why;
Labelled as such (pz4) but tyres are improved over time. Today's Pilot Sport 4S is better than release.
Goodyear EAGLE F1 Asymetric 6 by far the best tyees ever used
I've just fitted the Conti sport contact 7 to my Jaguar XF S, replacing Pilot sport 4s that had covered 26k miles. I am not a road tester by any stretch of the imagination but I feel the conti although very strong in all the wet/dry grip and braking they don't have the sporty feeling of the PS4s.
How are the PS4s in terms of resistance to wear? thanks!
@@cristiandemirel1918 I thought 26,000 miles was pretty good. They were down to 2mm and getting a bit loose in the wet.
@KenEdwardsz that's exactly what I was looking for. How they feel on the Jag XF S when driving daily normally in cities & dynamically when roads allow - the SC7 or PS4S ?
Also in terms on comfort on bad roads/asphalt - which one ?
@@alieman9154 I am still not sure how long the SC7 will last. I have only done 5k miles on them. I fitted them based on the reviews at the time and because they were £50 cheaper than the PS4S. It's a tough choice!
It really looks great
Yokohama AD09 for the win!
Different category of tyre haha
Bizarre que le continental sport Contact 7 et pas gagné car il est vraiment au dessus des autres pour avoir testé les pneus aussi
anyone here knows which tyre is most comfortable ?
Mic pilot sports
they are on the car nowadays and the difference with hard tyres is enormous@@danishsohail8852
I'm quite disappointed by the review after watching the video by tyre reviews your video does not give much information about the balance and the feel .. anyone looking for a proper review on these tyres check out the channel tyre reviews
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S is the comparable UHP tyre , not the Pilot Sport 5.
michelin pilot sport 5 was not a UHP tyre, please !!!
What is it then?
Not a uhp
@@MarzioNieddu it is. Go read up
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I've had p-zeros on my car and they were truly awful, went with the michelin ps4s after that which wore down quicker than a pencil being sharpened, put the goodyears asym 6s on and they are wearing the best of all am thinking to try the contis tho hopefully they'll release the sport contact 7s in all sizes soon enough tho
Asymmetric6 продержится дольше всех! PS4 в тесте не хватает!
Sorry but i can't really give much credence to these tests. First of all he seems to know which tyres he's driving on so introduces conscious/unconscious bias. Secondly the pirelli was middle of the road in nearly all tests coming top in only one yet some how is overall winner? Literally nobody i know in car forums etc rates the pirelli much at all. The pirelli is often stated as poor in the wet and as it ages becomes stiff and slippy. Other you tube tests generally have them middle at best only really beating budget tyres. Had them on an R8 and changed them for MPS4S and the difference was marked. Way better all round. Secondly, the test results are, other than the lap times, completely meaningless! What the hell are percentages supposed to mean? Percentage of what? Braking should be given in distances! How can you measure handling as a percentage!!!
Maybe you are easily blinded by what you heard but he is more knowledgeable than you and me so i trust him plus Pirelli is a good tyre imo. F1 use them and many others use them.
It is simple, in this test he dose not care about price, wear, fuel.... just pure driving. I, for example, live in a dry country, so I don't care much about wet, only dry, so every one should take what he wants and needs from all these test.
The PZ4 (and PZC4) score well in the wet. The PZ4 is by no means the best tyre in the segment, but it is a respectable tyre nonetheless. They are usually suffering in the projected mileage and rolling resistance metrics.
I had a Pirelli, they slippery as fu.k, I will never buy them !!!
Maybe they any good when new, but in 2years time is a big no no
BMW e46 m3
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This sort of margins...They are all the same.
P Zero the winner? jajajajaj, probably is the worse tyre of that bunch. Conti CS7 is the best tyre there by far.
Agan, pretty pointless test. 25c wet, where on earth have you seen those conditions? Why test it in Italy for UK viewers. Just doesn't make sense at all. Test it between 10 and 18c and you'll see how potenza sport and pirelli are crap in wet in those temperatures
Tyre tests are rarely ever conducted in the uk. Funnily enough this translates fantastically for where I live. Seems like you’ll be complaining about basically every tyre review, ever. Also, I’ve driven both the P-Zero and Potenza sport in the temperatures you’ve stated and they still perform brilliantly.
@@RyRyMTD Not sure what you're driving, but I have Pzeros and they're crap in
@@paulf3353 That’s not really the point of a summer UHP tyre though is it. Rarely outside of the UK are they constantly driven in under 10°C whether. I live in Australia and drive an Audi S3 8V. It came with P-Zero’s and they performed great, even in temps below 10°C imo. Of course tyres need a little heat before performing though. The only complaint I have with P-Zero’s is the soft sidewall that will bubble with the smallest pothole. Currently on Potenza sports and it’s actually hard to say there’s a better UHP road tyre on sale currently.
@@RyRyMTD Well, this review is meant for UK auditory, so that's my point. Normally you have summer and winter tyres, true, but realistically almost everyone is using summer tyres at those temps, especially in the UK, where people doesn't know what either winter tyres are or they think it is only for countries with a lot of snow. I agree, this review may work in Australia, but that's not its targeted auditory.
@@paulf3353 The biggest tyre review channels on RUclips are English. So by their channel size alone they can’t be reviewing tyres solely based on the UK customer. If you want reviews solely aimed at the UK then do what you said and read independent reviews online. Let’s face it, most people run all seasons anyway.