In Canada there's 6 months of freezing rain, rain, sleet and snow never mind all roads destroyed by frost. Really need testing that can pass those conditions
@@papabits5721 These are not all season tires, they are ALL WEATHER tires. They meet the three peak mountain snow tire certification. That's the whole point of all weather tires like the cross climate 2's and these WeatherReady 2's
I just installed these Goodyear Weather Ready 2s on my CRV and these Cross Climates 2s on my Accord. Both current gen hybrids, but different cars. Only noticeable difference so far is the Goodyears are noisier. Have a hum, especially on new pavement. No noticeable degradation in MPG in either car. Generally satisfied with both. Went with Michelins on Accord because they had an $80 instant rebate which made the tire rack prices between the two about the same. Just sharing my point of view. Hope helpful.
Thank you for your real life owner feed back. I am not brand royal and am on the second set of CC2 with FWD HEV. I notice if I use the factory alloy (not winter metal) rim (+54mm offset) with aero cover the tires are extremely quiet; however, use a full alloy hybrid rim (+51mm offset, extends out 4mm towards the fender) I hear a faint constant wind noise. Looks to me the type of rim tires mount on also effects the noise. I greatest concern on the Goodyear is after watching their CGI animation on how the treads evolves when warring out though creates wider grove at the end, all the surrounding sips are most gone when ware down to 5mm and none of them are full depth tread like the CC2. I hope you will continue to provide us updates on your experiences with both of these tires.
Why the scale is 32? What is 32? Tire diameter? Rim diameter? Groove depth? Isint it simplier to say 7/10 or 70/100? How do you manage to owe only money in metric system? 😢
@@naturestrail2296 Why would you lie like that buddy. The weatherready 2 was just released in August 2024. This is the problem with trusting random fools on the internet.
@@ipcamtalk4314 I looked at the date on the receipt yesterday. They were purchased Sep 2021. Unless I bought weather ready original and they gave me Michelin cross climate cuz I haven't actually looked at the tire branding on the side. Maybe I need to look at the tire but it has the same tread pattern as the weatherready 2. That or they did a trial run before releasing them with Sam's club or something? Why I said I'm confused. I'm the only person I know that does their best to never tell a lie. I'm not perfect and might mistaken something but lie? Never purposely that I can recall. Matter of fact only thing I've heard people call me is too honest. I'm going to look at the tire. Since I don't know how to get back here without the notification go ahead and respond and when I get home I'll click on the notification and tell you which tire it is. Maybe they gave me the michelin's by mistake but I sure didn't get them anytime recent at all and they 100% have the exact same tread pattern as the weather ready 2 which so does the Michelin so I'm curious now. Never thought they might have put the wrong tire on but now I'm going to check and be sure. But companies do begin selling products with a single company only for trial runs at times. Maybe they were curious if they will wear early or something and didn't want to have significant losses but like I said maybe they gave me the wrong tire. I'll definitely be checking because I've seen multiple places they claim they were just released. So idk. I know I calculated the miles on whatever they are and they have about 34,000 mi on them and about 48.8% tread if the listing tread depth is all the way to the bottom but if it's normally 10/32 or 11/32" to the where bar then they are definitely wearing early I'm not sure how that works. I know the receipt said 10/32 tread depth but I thought the weather ready 2 has 11/32 when i check. So there confused again.
60 years driving on all kinds of tires , I have not driven on the GY tire but the CC2 I have are the very best for all types of weather even up to 4 inches of snow !
I too am more concerned about snow capability, but this is a very informative video. The reason I am considering the Goodyear is because they are offering significantly better rebates via Tire Rack.
Sold 10000 tires a year in a hilly upstate NY town. Sold many sets of weathereadys during snow events when snow tires were not immediately available, with the gaurantee of a swap to snows within 500 miles if they did'nt think the snow traction was sufficeint, never had anyone take me up on it, but did get a lot of positive feedback on the snow performance. The weatherready2 looks even more aggresive, I think you will be happy.
@ If there is most current data available to back up the claim I am all for it. I seek the truth based on data and not just a "believer" based on multiple tire shop installers that been working for 50+ years that have never walk into a tire manufacturing testing facility and learned from pass down old second, third hand information. Here are some of the testing data in this video based on few reviewers who actually testing tires physically. If these data are wrong, please feel free to share why because I am always open to learn the truth without judgement. If a new All-Weather tire like Crossclimate2 can out perform most top 10 dedicated snow tire in the world in snow handling and even #9 in all other snow performance which in my book is most likely better than most 2nd tear dedicated tires and still out perform all the All Season tires in most other weather conditions... why not: ruclips.net/video/8K8ThRGNaoM/видео.htmlfeature=shared
@@darinl848, hello. Could you please tell me about the noise? I'm thinking about which model to buy and found some comments that cc2 is very noisy. I have a Honda CR-V which is not the best about noise isolation
I just ordered a set of the 225/P65/17 Goodyear WeatherReady 2 for my 2014 Subaru Outback. Replacing a set of Pirelli Scorpion Plus AT's (they looked awesome and did a fine job for all terrains..) We just had a OEM size set of the Michelin CrossClimate 2 installed on my wife's 2020 Subaru Forester about 2 months ago. No snow or ice yet in southern Ohio but was impressed with the ability to handle well in wet conditions! So we have a set of each to compare over the long run. The price of the GY's were about $15 a tire less and a $100 rebate helped my decision today.
I’ve been using the Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady on my 2008 CR-V AWD for 5+ years (on second set), really impressed with them. Will definitely look at the WeatherReady 2 next time I need tires.
I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Weather Active on our Rogue. They wear like iron and provide great traction in the snow and ice in Wyoming. I can't wait to try the Goodyear WeatherReady 2 next time I need some new tires. They look a lot like the Perellis.
I have the Michelins on both of my cars, and love them. They seem noise (like all tires ) on concrete roads. I've used Michelins on my business cars for 30 years with virtually no issues. Had Goodyears before, and driving the same way, found them difficult to keep balanced.
I'd go with with either of these if I was set on only using one set of tires. But after using dedicated winter tires for several seasons I'm sold on the 2-tire approach. Having a garage and being comfortable with doing my own auto maintenance does make this an easier choice for me than it might be for others.
@@buttonsangel3074 I have been using two sets of premium tires on both of my vehicles for over 20 years until I came across the Michelin CrossClimate 2 and did an extensive research for months on all its previous models ( CrossClimate & CrossClimate +) before the purchase. After purchasing a new car and driven the OEM Michelin Energy Saver A/S and Michelin X-Ice Xi3 for two snow seasons. I tested the CC2 extensively for one year and sold both the OEM and the dedicated winter tire used on the new car as well as the Continental True Contact and MichelinX-ice Xi2 on our 21 years young Toyota Minivan and fitted with the new CC2 when the size finally became available the year sure. My wife who never has feedback on the minivan unless something seriously noticeable actually mentioned to me one day that she could feel much better attraction than the dedicated winter tire in snow and ice. Consumers report does rate the CC2 excellent in both snow and ice which match all the North America as well as Europe independent tester's results published on RUclips and magazines. I can not say All Weather tires are all great in snow and ice ( not even the CrossClimate+ was though it was very good already) but I know for sure the CC2, now on the second set with the same FWD HEV in snow and ice is very good.
Bought a set of CC2 about 6 months ago, and am very happy with them. Contrary to what some people say, I find them very quiet. Even though it is January in Minnesota, we still have not had a heavy snow to test out snow traction. They have handled a couple of light snows very well, but I have AWD, so not really a challenge. The WeatherReady2 were not available when I bought the CC2, or I would have given them strong consideration. Most tests give them a slight edge in wet/dry over the CC2, but there is not much, if any, testing results comparing snow traction.
Crossclimates 2 over 2 years ago best tire Ive ever have mounted on 2008 vw rabbit year round in Spokane Wa. no need for snow tires. they corner great and leave off the line like a tiger. will buy again
In my second winter with CC2's on my Chrysler Pacifica minvan. No complaints whatsover and they are good in snow. I think they really shine on rainy roads.
Nice comparison of the two ‘similar’ tires!! I have a Chrysler Town and Country and I miss the old Goodyear AquaTread 3’s. They were unbelievable in water or a driving rain where the car tires would be buffering from dips in the road and water. The movement of the water away to keep the tire on the ground. Always felt I had control during those times. They worked well in the snow as well!
My wife just got a new Subaru Forrester. We replaced the crappy OE tires with the Michelin CrossClimate 2s. It is so much quieter and better in the rain and snow.
It's easy to make a tire that performs well in dry and wet. The real benefit of the Cross Climate is that we know it does well in cold and snow as well. You'll have our attention once you test them head to head in that arena.
Have a woman customer buy a used car that came with new CrossClimate tires. Even tho we didn’t get much snow , she didn’t like them, too slippery , especially pulling away. Maybe she has a heavy foot at lights but she has lost her sense of safe winter driving. Just ordered her rims and snow tires
Had them 3 years onPT Cruiser Turbo Ltd. So far excellent. Excellent. Will spin in oily first rain at stop lights if we goose it . What doesn’t? How old are the tires ? Used car? Did you drive it? I know somebody……………….
Both my vehicles currently have CrossClimate2's installed as they are the next best thing to dedicated snow tires. I had previously swapped summer tires with winter tires every year, but got tired (hehe...) of that. Now I just run CC2s all year long. However, competition is good... would be nice to have some competition for the CC2s to bring prices down.
Cross climate 2’s really hug the road . I have them bought even though have general grabbers winters on rims . I decided to try the winters this year as there was more snow . I’m comfortable with both in winter conditions with the CC’2’s being the best tire made for winter rain . I’ll run the grabbers out then simply not go back . The CC’s do may have slightly less gas mileage on them compared to all seasons though , but only slight .
I have the Michelins on my daughter's Kia Niro. They started out really well with good traction. As they've aged however the rubber seems to have gotten much harder and provides less traction. My beef with Goodyear's is that I never get close to the rated mileage before they're worn out. Your results may vary.
I miss the Goodyear Aqua Tread 3, had good snow bite, however it was just fantastic in rain and water collected in road dips on the interstate. This tire would not buffer just remove the water was just great.
GY's are over 4lbs. per tire heavier for my size compared to the CC2's and from stock tries that's over 7lbs per tire for the GY's!! I installed the CC2's on my previous car and loved every aspect of them. Because of the weight I will go with the CC2's once again!
Great review, thank you! Being in Canada, I'd like to know a bit more about how they compared in snow/slush, but overally this was a very helpful video.
@@stevebridge4375 That are great in deep slush at 30 mph in town early in the morn. We have drivin through 13 in snow all wheel drive. I even stopped a few times and no prob . They are good on ice But slow and go is the trick to ice. Michelin took a new set of the tires and shaved them down 4/32 and tested them and found they actually worked a little better in snow than a new set.2 days after blizzard I turned onto a hard snow packed road near me. My first break test. I took off at about 1/3 Rd Throttle and no spin so I hit it harder and no spin then at 50 I jammed the brakes and I was shocked the car stopped like it was dry black top anti locks never activated.id did it again at 55 and the anti locks activated when I got down to 1 mph one activation. I wouldn't get any other tire I don't care how well people like them . The only downside is possible hydroplaning at higher speeds in curves. I slow for curves anyway.
The Michelins cost us 3 mpg on our Escape Hybrid and after 20k became noisy as heck with a loud drone. Changed at 50k and 3/32 tread and the next tires were super quiet, showing it was indeed the CC 2's
I can't speak to the WeatherReady as I've never tried them, but I did have the Comfordrive which had the Comfortread technology. They were not bad tires, but I didn't like them as much as the previous Comfortread Touring. I put about 45k miles on them and traded them for the Crossclimate 2. The Michelin's are superior in every single category. Smoother, quieter, better handling in rain and dry conditions. I only have about 7500 miles on the CC2's so I guess I will see how they wear, but so far they are some of the best tires I have ever owned.
I live outside Rochester, NY. Let's face it. We can handle the snow. You may have a bad day or 2 (per snow event) where you need the advantage of dedicated winter days. I believe that used to be true. However with all the tech in the cars nowadays, it gets rather expensive and inconvenient to swap tires. Whether they have dedicated rims or not. I had a 2001 Toyota Solara. The car wasn't the best handler in the winter. I put the Goodyear Triple Tread Assurance (directional) tires on my car. I was shocked. The tech actually worked. I was sold at that point that I really didn't need a dedicated winter tire. Their only downside was that they were a bit noisy. I was looking to put the same tires on my 2013 Avalon after 22,000 miles of horrible Bridgestone stock tires and the Continental "Extreme Contact" (top rated "All Season" tire for winter) set. I then found out that Goodyear no longer made the Triple Tread tire. It was replaced by their "Weather Ready" A-Symmetrical Assurance tire (first exposure to this new rating). It was either these or Michelin's Cross Climate at 30% more and less wear. I wanted a tire that handled that slushy sloppy condition. You know, it's that slop between your lane and the one (ones) next to you. Again, surprised how good they were for being a non-directional tire. Better ride, quiet and best in class mileage warrantee. I now have a 2024 Lexus ES 350. It's IS worth the little extra money. The car came with either Michelin or Bridgestone stock tires. I had the dealer change the tires to Michelin's or I wasn't going to buy the car. Enough said? I was thinking about getting the Michelin Cross Climate 2 when I need new tires. I now see that Goodyear has a Weather Ready 2 line out now. They are directional and look a lot the the Michelin tires. I will most likely stick with Goodyear. Oh, that advertised Goodyear "Comfort Quiet" ride technology does actually work. Disclaimer: Tire performance may very depending on model of vehicle and driver!
Regarding the "built-in wear gauge" - in the US west states like CA have tire chain requirements, which are often (depending upon conditions) waived with AWD/4WD and M+S. M+S is legal with 6/32 or more tread. So, this is a cool feature for that reason.
Just found out in 2018 Michelin Agilis CrossClimates commercial tire also comes with the build-in tread depth marking and I would not be surprised that they are not the first one who did it.
The cross climate 2 is definitely a great tire not only that but it performs down to replacement level exceptionally well however it is a few years old and I think some of the competitors are starting to catch up with various trade-offs in mind, I have one car with the CC2 and another with Bridgestone weather peaks.
As someone who likes getting over the average the dealership says my car can I know tires play a huge role in that. Half or more of all tires leave that out. I’ll give up a little handling for much better gas mileage.
Had aquatreads in the 1990s. Like them. Goodyear has had simmilar tires for law enforcement only. Glad their going on their initial like design from the 1990s... Looking forward.
These tires look promising, but snow & ice performance is what makes the Michelin’s great. Also the Michelins keep their performance regardless of tire wear. Most all weather, all terrain tires with the 3 peak mount symbol are pretty good under 15k miles, after that they lose their winter performance.
My first set of CrossClimate2 went for 58,000 miles and had 5mm tread depth. Sold it for 50% of what I paid for and bought the second set now at 31,000 miles and no issue in snow or ice. It replaced both my OEM Micheline Energy Saver A/S and Micheline X-Ice Xi3 and cost less to own without paying the swapping twice a year.
Good comparison. My only nit pick is you downplayed the full thickness sipes on the Michelin. As the tires wear the siping will remain longer on the Michelin. Equaling better traction and more safety.
Loved the video...always great to see the comparison..I've always believed that Michelin was priced higher even when I was buying for my BIG truck.. even as much as I like Michelin I always shop around...so thanks for your informative comparison!!!
They are not as good as the WR's on ice. They are as good as Blizzaks LMs. However, like the LM's they are better in any winter codition except ice. Better handling, better dry road, better wet, better braking, longer life, etc. If you live in an area where most winter driving is on packed snow and ice, then the WR blizzaks are the tire for you. In any other condition, even in the snow belt, the crossclimate is a better choice. Plus, and best of all, you never have to swap them in summer where they perform very well, as shown in this test. The only "all season" tire that doesn't suck all year!
So the siping gets wider as the tire wears down? So in other words, the tire wears faster as the tire wears down. Unless you’re always on wet roads, it’s a disadvantage.
All tires have a gauge on them. Not numbered but at the depth for being legal or not , a bar runs across the tire sidewall to sidewall. You just have to look. Don't need a penny to see if they are still legal , but that works too.
Goodyear has been aiming straight for Michelin lately and seems to do a good job. This tire is a winner. Just want to correct one thing : Michelin pioneered thread grooves that gets wider when the tire is worn (back on the Premier A/S and some heavy truck tires as well) and the CrossClimate 2 does have this technology and does advertise best in class performance when worn.
The difference in the tire warranties is because 100,000 kms is actually closer to 62,000 miles while 95,000 kms is almost exactly 60,000 miles ( a little lower actually ).
Michelins cross climate 2 have a utqg ratting of b traction. Goodyears has a rating of a. Tires go from AA to C. This rating measures the distance it take to stop on wet pavement based off of standards defined by the utqg. That shows that the Michelins will take more distance to stop. Me, I found a fantastic tire that has a AA traction rating and performs beautifully except for ride comfort. General tires as-05 s a fantastic tire and from what I have found, extremely affordable and durable. I’ve had plenty of harsh accelerations over 100mph, hit potholes at 80plus, I did hit a curb making a u turn, my transmission case cracked but the tire is perfect to this day.
I have a Crossclimate 2. The first two winters (in central European conditions) I had no problem - but this winter the first snow and a big disappointment. No traction, it was slipping. Mileage approx 35k km - so quite a disappointment for me.
I buy based on how they perform on SLUSH.. Salted snowfall turns to Slush when temps are in the 20's , which needs evacuation, and can cause a Bigger "Slush -plane" Event. So why go to Akron, with NO Snow, NO ICE, NO Slush ?
@@Formulabruce agree, slush is what majority of snow belt drivers drive on in their daily commute. Driving on slush feels very different and more slippery than driving on fresh snow. Unfortunately nobody tests tires on slush. Most tests are done on compacted snow.
Very true. I did ask a pro tire reviews regarding this question and the answer is that the All Weather tire that performs better in the rain would be the one that perform better in the slush as well. Slush is way to complicated to duplicate due to every region, country, city and town may have different way dealing with it. Some using liquid chemicals, some use sand and salt, some use mixed of both... plus the different type of snow contents (by the sea with salt, by the lake with no salt) and temperature conditions in different areas, too difficult to reproduce consistently to use as a standard test at this time.
I have the cross Climate 2s on a heavy Land Rover and for a do all tire its about as good as I have used. There is no perfect tire but changing out roads for winters 2x a year gets very old and increases risk of getting a lug snapped by the shop. (2 in the last year) The are skewed a bit towards winter which is fine if you live in Wisconsin michigan ohio etc. Im sure a true road ties would be better in handling in the summer, with a SUV that is not a big issue they are not low to the ground anyway. THey are better in snow and ice for sure and better than a true snow in the summer for sure. Better than my old Perelli all seasons in the winter by a long shot on stopping on icy roads.
Well it looks like they nailed the shape, now let's see if they got the tire compound correct for snow. I've owned the CrossClimate SUV and currently have the CrossClimate 2's and love them both. I do miss some of the dry and wet handling of the OG CrossClimate but CrossClimate 2 makes up for that in the added snow handling. Let's be honest I didn't have these tires on a sports car so no "real" loss with handling. FYI, I live in the PNW and during winter will regularly drive from dry/wet Fall conditions up and over the pass through 6 inches of snow with ice or slush with no problems. Having said all of that, I hope the WeatherReady's are just as good and add some competition to Michelin.
I just put 1000 miles on a set of the CC2s and a chunk of that was in the UP of Michigan last weekend in 12" of snow. What I noticed was that my antilock breaks never kicked in coming to an intersection. They always did with my old Bridgestones.
I wish they would bring back the Michelin Harmony tire that was frighteningly quiet and had aggressive, wet weather traction, and if you kept the wheels in a good alignment and rarely drove aggressively, they might last five years easily now all their tires, the black 40,000 mile tires
However, the CrossClimate 2, is known for it's superior snow performance (rated no. 1 by a long shot in all the reviews I have seen) and also has the lowest roll resistance. It only has problems on ice, and maybe the inner fine threads on the Goodyear could be better at handling that, but only time will tell.
Thanks for the review! Coming from these Michelin tires, which I love all the features of, I have had problems over time with slow leaks. Just enough to be annoying where I have to fill up my tires weekly, but not bad enough to locate a leak or have anything done about it through the dealer. As you mentioned, the michelins are definitely not a bad tire!
@@th0mas21 That is related to the installation or run condition. I had the same issue on the first set of CC2 but the new set and second car was installed at Costco and holds pressure even after 6 months later without dropping any pressure except going up and down influence by different temperatures at the time of measurement monthly.
I bought a 2025 CR-V 2 months ago, and with 1,355 miles on it I immediately switched to the CrossClimate2's because I have to cross a 9,300ft mtn pass every week for work. I originally wanted the Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires I'd had on my 2010 RAV4 V6 AWD (totaled by a drunk, hence the new CR-V), but it seems they're discontinuing that tire because the size I needed was no longer available. So, since the CR-V will not have to go offroading like my RAV4 did (I have a 2024 Colorado ZR2 for that now), the CR-V can be a street vehicle exclusively, so, I chose the CC2's to work in the snow. And after a trip to Durango/Silverton/Ouray/Telluride the other weekend, they do great in all the conditions I tried them in. Somewhat better in the packed snow/icy conditions, but a lot better in deeper snow, and WAY better in heavy rain/standing puddles. No surprise, they're modeled after Michelin's F1 rain tires. I've had great luck with Michelins so I think I'll stick with them for now, though I'll probably go with Goodyears for the ZR2.
I live in Pacific NW where winters can be freezing rain, snow and ice. I bought Goodyear Commercial rated, Kevlar SUV tires for my Yukon. Great in rain, nice ride and the Kevlar helps as the locals have a bad habit of breaking bottles in parking lots because they can. Too lazy to take bottles & trash to a trash can as I do. These tires are ok in snow but I drive safely so rarely have an issue but they do not do well on ice. I feel my investment was sound and drive wisely.
Im not sold. This may have made more apt to stay with crossclimate2 ... Im waiting for crossclimate3 in the hopes that Michelin pushes the allweather performance a bit closer to the warm side maybe the same difference between 1 and 2
Cross climate 2’s are actually rated at a winter tire level with the Triple Peak Mountain and Snowflake symbol… these imo are the future of tires… you don’t need to change them… like it should have always been.
Other reviews have noted that the Michelin excelled in the snow, but were lacking in the rain, as one often compromises the other. If these tires are so similar, then is the Goodyear lacking in the rain, as compared to ones like the Pirelli Weatheractive, Continental All Season etc.??? Living in Michigan, I am familiar with both Snow & Rain and want performance in both. Cheers, Tony
I was told Michelin Crossclimate 2 was being discontinued. I bought Bridgestone Alenza tires, after watching tire rack review. It’ rated for 80k and I’ve had them about 16k and been very happy so far. Snow in my area was low on amount. Does anyone know the status of Crossclimate2?
@@SharonMcQ384 I did, 9 feet longer to stop in dry. 7 feet longer in wet. Will be MUCH worse in snow. Not to mention not get the 95k estimated tread live of the cc2 as reported by consumer reports. OUCH.
@ if you're doing your own testing, you have to take an account the co- friction (Drag Factor) of the roadway at testing time. Please watch the review on the tire rack. They showed 50 more feet over the cross climate 2 on pack snow, with better rain performance.
Good review however these are both Allweather tires and the whole “ allure “ of that class of tires is the improved snow and ice performance over Allseason tires. I can only give my two cents on the Cross Climate 2 tires and since I currently have been running them for two winters and three summers on our 2017 Toyota Highlander AWD. The last two winters saw somewhat less than normal amounts of snow ( usually heavy wet or outright slushy slop ) but there’s been many times over the past two winters where the temperatures have been hovering just above freezing during the day and a couple degrees below freezing at night. The first three years we owned this vehicle I ran the original Michelin Lattitudes in the warmer months and swapped on some Michelin X Ice Winter tires from early November to early April. I have found the CrossClimate 2s to be almost as secure on ice and whatever snow we’ve had as the X Ices were. Of course using common sense and driving to conditions ( accelerate gentler, brake sooner and softer and turn more carefully ) helps these tires do what they are designed to do. I’ve always run Goodyears so I have a “ soft spot “ for them and am not going to write them off as an equal to the Cross Climates. I am a little concerned about the “ softer sidewall “ because although it should give you a quieter and less bumpy ride, tire roll over will likely increase which could be a concern during the more spirited driving seasons. I was under the impression that the Michelin CrossClimate 2’s also had a tread that widened as it wore down but maybe that was the newer Michelin Ice& Snow tires which I have on my wife’s car during thewinter and my son has on his car. Those are uncharacteristically smooth, quiet ( almost silent ) and they don’t give a noticeable penalty on fuel consumption as well as being grippy as hell in snow, ice as well as they wear slowly for a winter tire with grip. I imagine Michelin will be coming out with a Cross Climate 3 sometime in the next couple years although even with some competitors getting close or catching up to the Cross Climate 2s in the past year or so they don’t really have to yet. On my tire tread depth gauge the Cross Climates showed 11/32s when brand new and now with 2 winters and 3 Summers of driving there’s still 8/32s left. Granted with 3 vehicles in the household and the “ pandemic “ I haven’t been putting on the miles over the past few years but I don’t leave it parked a lot either. I will buy theses tires again in a heartbeat but I will look at the Goodyears as well. By the time I need to do that, there should be more extensive testing and comparisons of these two tires as well as Bridgestones??? new All Weather tire.
I think the three peak snow rated symbol is mainly a marketing gimmick. The tire manufacturer's own trade association (US Tire Manufacturers Association) is made up of essentially any tire manufacturers that pays to be a part of the USTMA sets the "standards". I put the three peak snow symbol in the same category as a tires "Tread Wear Rating". It's whatever the tire manufacturer claims it to be with no independent lab testing (either private or government) or any published set of tests for someone to actually compare data between two different tires. This is what I've been told, if I'm wrong please correct me. I'm hoping this new WeatherReady 2 has sizes to fit my 21" SUV rims.
Most winter tires vastly surpass the 3PMSF ratings, which only has be 10% better than a reference tire to get certified. But I've had gawd awful winter tires that barely performed better than all-seasons (I'm looking at you, Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2), so you're not wrong. My Crossclimate 2's have been excellent for winter, btw.
Testing these tire is not about who is the best. You have to compare specific multi weather performances. It is not just about snow. As fas as I found out the CC2 is better in snow, compared to th GY. However just cold weather, combined with rain, the GY performs better. However both performe very well as they are both top quality tires. Making the choice is not just one is better than the other.
Yea, I just purchased a set of CC2 tires. I am very surprised, as they seem very quiet to me, much quieter than the OEM Continentals that came on the car. I don't understand the reviewers who say they are noisy. I suppose it could vary depending on the car and road surface, but they seem very quiet to me.
As noted - we need a nice winter test - domestic driving for say the crowd that drives 15,000 km or less a year, so they "traditionally tend" to have the dual tires (all season and winter say) that age out before they get close to wearing out and so have perhaps many driving on out-dated or staler tires after say 4 years - instead of just replacing with the latest all weather in say year 5. I was wanting to get winter tires but destiny had taken a hand and I ending up getting very excited about the all weather refinements and technologies - got the Bridgestone WeatherPeak which were "the newest to market" at the time. Another advantage is that all weather I found superior in the "between" season of spring and fall - as you get cold, dirt and leaves and imperfect surface, with water or snow - where even the all season can be in the edges of limits - certainly compared to an all weather. The finances - tires, rims, sensor, storage - winter dualism has such a large footprint to execute; not to mention paying either interest (debt) on that OR losing at least 4% compounded every year as you cannot invest that spent money.
I was looking at the Weatherpeak as we need new tires this year. It’s gotten some great ratings. But two negatives keep popping up. Across multiple review sites and subreddits 1. People are reporting that they’re barely getting half the rated miles of the tire before the tread is gone 2. The rubber on the sidewalls is thin which increases the chances of tearing if you’re off-road on a trail or even just rubbing against a curb
There's not a ton of meaningful info presented in this video. Calling a wear indicator an "ace up the sleeve" is a pretty big reach. It doesn't matter. There's also no hard numbers presented for stopping distances, lateral Gs, rolling resistance, traction numbers in wet, snow, and ice, etc. Can't really say which was is better or worse without presenting actual data.
Thanks for the video. Hopefully there will be reviews of these two in snow performance as well soon since Crossclimate 2 has been tested as good as the best premium snow tires in snow and ice handling and the best of breaking and acceleration of all All Weather tires. The tread depth indicator i and quieter rides are nice touches though. After watching the tread ware animation in slow motion a few more times, looks like this tire ware off the first layer of tread pretty well at 6mm depth and the surrounding tread cuts/sips disappears very quickly afterward so I am concerned about the performance longevity. I am never loyal with any brand name as long the products is well made I will buy them. As a gentle accelerate & breaking slow driver (around speed limit is call slow these days I guess) with a FWD HEV, I am on the second set of CC2 since 2020 and driving average 100Km per day. First H-Speed set I drove 93,000Km-94,000Km with 5mm (6/32nd) tread depth left on these 5 year / 100,000Km warranty EV approved tires (I believe they are factory OEM tires on high end Mustang March-E EV and other EV now) and sold it for 50% of what I paid for. I used the money to buy the current V-Speed set just past December. The current set is already at 50,000Km+ at 7mm tread depth last week and they are still very competent in 1+ foot of unplowed snow, ice, freezing rain and deep slush or through 6" of flooded streets just this past year with their full depth treads that has been tested by Michelin and 3rd party tire test reviews down to 2mm tread depth in these conditions (and in their announcement presentation). Looking forward to the long term test on this tire in the coming year before I need the tire replacement next year.
I had a set of those once. Going 10mph around a soft turning lane in the rain I touched the painted line and my car went completely sideways. They channel water away great but they have no lateral grip. Don't fall for their gimmick.
I have the Goodyear ones, I tested them in heavy rain. Did about 85mph in my rav4 hybrid and cut through the rain like butter on freeway. Took my car to the mountains to test in snow and was able to drive up cabin roads etc. not sure what ur talking about
Im on the third year with crossclimate2. And they are awesome even with the winters we have here in Sweden. Great in deep snow.
Nothing on ice and snow handling, nothing on rolling resistance. I'd say you're missing half the aces out of your review deck.
In Canada there's 6 months of freezing rain, rain, sleet and snow never mind all roads destroyed by frost. Really need testing that can pass those conditions
Snow and ice are for winter tires.
@@papabits5721 These are not all season tires, they are ALL WEATHER tires. They meet the three peak mountain snow tire certification. That's the whole point of all weather tires like the cross climate 2's and these WeatherReady 2's
@ living in the north winter tires are the way to go, to many comprises with a tire that claims it can do it all.
@@papabits5721 these are winter tires. They are just not "exclusively optimized" for only winter.
I just installed these Goodyear Weather Ready 2s on my CRV and these Cross Climates 2s on my Accord. Both current gen hybrids, but different cars. Only noticeable difference so far is the Goodyears are noisier. Have a hum, especially on new pavement. No noticeable degradation in MPG in either car. Generally satisfied with both. Went with Michelins on Accord because they had an $80 instant rebate which made the tire rack prices between the two about the same. Just sharing my point of view. Hope helpful.
Thank you for your real life owner feed back. I am not brand royal and am on the second set of CC2 with FWD HEV. I notice if I use the factory alloy (not winter metal) rim (+54mm offset) with aero cover the tires are extremely quiet; however, use a full alloy hybrid rim (+51mm offset, extends out 4mm towards the fender) I hear a faint constant wind noise. Looks to me the type of rim tires mount on also effects the noise. I greatest concern on the Goodyear is after watching their CGI animation on how the treads evolves when warring out though creates wider grove at the end, all the surrounding sips are most gone when ware down to 5mm and none of them are full depth tread like the CC2. I hope you will continue to provide us updates on your experiences with both of these tires.
Because the accord is lighter, Michelin makes less noise
Have your car checked for a bad wheel bearing. CRV's are notorious for them.
Damn, Michelin doesn’t EVER seem to run rebates. Part of the reason I ended up with the Goodyears 😂
@TonyTheTruckGuy that's great 👍
I’ve got a set of cross climate 2’s on the work rig, 40,000 miles in and they are wore down from 10/32 to 7/32. I’m more than impressed with them.
Why the scale is 32? What is 32? Tire diameter? Rim diameter? Groove depth? Isint it simplier to say 7/10 or 70/100? How do you manage to owe only money in metric system? 😢
@@manjac brain dead euro trash. Keep importing refugees - tires wont be importantl...
@@naturestrail2296 Why would you lie like that buddy. The weatherready 2 was just released in August 2024. This is the problem with trusting random fools on the internet.
@@ipcamtalk4314 I looked at the date on the receipt yesterday. They were purchased Sep 2021. Unless I bought weather ready original and they gave me Michelin cross climate cuz I haven't actually looked at the tire branding on the side. Maybe I need to look at the tire but it has the same tread pattern as the weatherready 2. That or they did a trial run before releasing them with Sam's club or something? Why I said I'm confused. I'm the only person I know that does their best to never tell a lie. I'm not perfect and might mistaken something but lie? Never purposely that I can recall. Matter of fact only thing I've heard people call me is too honest. I'm going to look at the tire. Since I don't know how to get back here without the notification go ahead and respond and when I get home I'll click on the notification and tell you which tire it is. Maybe they gave me the michelin's by mistake but I sure didn't get them anytime recent at all and they 100% have the exact same tread pattern as the weather ready 2 which so does the Michelin so I'm curious now. Never thought they might have put the wrong tire on but now I'm going to check and be sure. But companies do begin selling products with a single company only for trial runs at times. Maybe they were curious if they will wear early or something and didn't want to have significant losses but like I said maybe they gave me the wrong tire. I'll definitely be checking because I've seen multiple places they claim they were just released. So idk. I know I calculated the miles on whatever they are and they have about 34,000 mi on them and about 48.8% tread if the listing tread depth is all the way to the bottom but if it's normally 10/32 or 11/32" to the where bar then they are definitely wearing early I'm not sure how that works. I know the receipt said 10/32 tread depth but I thought the weather ready 2 has 11/32 when i check. So there confused again.
I have owned 2 sets on a Honda Odyssey. Love the tire, so quite game changer. However they wear away super fast. Almost unacceptable.
60 years driving on all kinds of tires , I have not driven on the GY tire but the CC2 I have are the very best for all types of weather even up to 4 inches of snow !
On my mini countryman, 70mph in blizzard conditions was an absolute breeze with the CC2.
I too am more concerned about snow capability, but this is a very informative video. The reason I am considering the Goodyear is because they are offering significantly better rebates via Tire Rack.
Sold 10000 tires a year in a hilly upstate NY town. Sold many sets of weathereadys during snow events when snow tires were not immediately available, with the gaurantee of a swap to snows within 500 miles if they did'nt think the snow traction was sufficeint, never had anyone take me up on it, but did get a lot of positive feedback on the snow performance. The weatherready2 looks even more aggresive, I think you will be happy.
I just installed Michelin Cross Climates on my car. Very happy with them. Going to put them on my wife’s car soon.
i'm in Colorado and when i had the Crossclimate 2, it performed just as good as snow tires in the snow. snow and ice is what i'm concerned about.
@@darinl848 what do you use now for winter or... your retired to Florida?
facing the reality , there aren’t such thing call “4 season tires “ , in fact , one for the summer and spring , another for late fall and winter !
@@hermanchow1405 true, but the Crossclimate 2 were the best i've used and i've had 22 cars.
@ If there is most current data available to back up the claim I am all for it. I seek the truth based on data and not just a "believer" based on multiple tire shop installers that been working for 50+ years that have never walk into a tire manufacturing testing facility and learned from pass down old second, third hand information. Here are some of the testing data in this video based on few reviewers who actually testing tires physically. If these data are wrong, please feel free to share why because I am always open to learn the truth without judgement. If a new All-Weather tire like Crossclimate2 can out perform most top 10 dedicated snow tire in the world in snow handling and even #9 in all other snow performance which in my book is most likely better than most 2nd tear dedicated tires and still out perform all the All Season tires in most other weather conditions... why not:
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@@darinl848, hello. Could you please tell me about the noise? I'm thinking about which model to buy and found some comments that cc2 is very noisy. I have a Honda CR-V which is not the best about noise isolation
I've got the CC2's
and I will stick with them ,some of the surprises I've got with them are unreal.
I just ordered a set of the 225/P65/17 Goodyear WeatherReady 2 for my 2014 Subaru Outback. Replacing a set of Pirelli Scorpion Plus AT's (they looked awesome and did a fine job for all terrains..)
We just had a OEM size set of the Michelin CrossClimate 2 installed on my wife's 2020 Subaru Forester about 2 months ago. No snow or ice yet in southern Ohio but was impressed with the ability to handle well in wet conditions!
So we have a set of each to compare over the long run. The price of the GY's were about $15 a tire less and a $100 rebate helped my decision today.
I’ve been using the Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady on my 2008 CR-V AWD for 5+ years (on second set), really impressed with them. Will definitely look at the WeatherReady 2 next time I need tires.
I went with the Pirelli Scorpion Weather Active on our Rogue. They wear like iron and provide great traction in the snow and ice in Wyoming. I can't wait to try the Goodyear WeatherReady 2 next time I need some new tires. They look a lot like the Perellis.
I have the Michelins on both of my cars, and love them. They seem noise (like all tires ) on concrete roads. I've used Michelins on my business cars for 30 years with virtually no issues. Had Goodyears before, and driving the same way, found them difficult to keep balanced.
I'd go with with either of these if I was set on only using one set of tires. But after using dedicated winter tires for several seasons I'm sold on the 2-tire approach. Having a garage and being comfortable with doing my own auto maintenance does make this an easier choice for me than it might be for others.
@@buttonsangel3074 I have been using two sets of premium tires on both of my vehicles for over 20 years until I came across the Michelin CrossClimate 2 and did an extensive research for months on all its previous models ( CrossClimate & CrossClimate +) before the purchase. After purchasing a new car and driven the OEM Michelin Energy Saver A/S and Michelin X-Ice Xi3 for two snow seasons. I tested the CC2 extensively for one year and sold both the OEM and the dedicated winter tire used on the new car as well as the Continental True Contact and MichelinX-ice Xi2 on our 21 years young Toyota Minivan and fitted with the new CC2 when the size finally became available the year sure. My wife who never has feedback on the minivan unless something seriously noticeable actually mentioned to me one day that she could feel much better attraction than the dedicated winter tire in snow and ice. Consumers report does rate the CC2 excellent in both snow and ice which match all the North America as well as Europe independent tester's results published on RUclips and magazines. I can not say All Weather tires are all great in snow and ice ( not even the CrossClimate+ was though it was very good already) but I know for sure the CC2, now on the second set with the same FWD HEV in snow and ice is very good.
Bought a set of CC2 about 6 months ago, and am very happy with them. Contrary to what some people say, I find them very quiet. Even though it is January in Minnesota, we still have not had a heavy snow to test out snow traction. They have handled a couple of light snows very well, but I have AWD, so not really a challenge. The WeatherReady2 were not available when I bought the CC2, or I would have given them strong consideration. Most tests give them a slight edge in wet/dry over the CC2, but there is not much, if any, testing results comparing snow traction.
Crossclimates 2 over 2 years ago best tire Ive ever have mounted on 2008 vw rabbit year round in Spokane Wa. no need for snow tires. they corner great and leave off the line like a tiger. will buy again
In my second winter with CC2's on my Chrysler Pacifica minvan. No complaints whatsover and they are good in snow. I think they really shine on rainy roads.
Nice comparison of the two ‘similar’ tires!!
I have a Chrysler Town and Country and I miss the old Goodyear AquaTread 3’s. They were unbelievable in water or a driving rain where the car tires would be buffering from dips in the road and water. The movement of the water away to keep the tire on the ground. Always felt I had control during those times. They worked well in the snow as well!
My wife just got a new Subaru Forrester. We replaced the crappy OE tires with the Michelin CrossClimate 2s. It is so much quieter and better in the rain and snow.
It's easy to make a tire that performs well in dry and wet. The real benefit of the Cross Climate is that we know it does well in cold and snow as well. You'll have our attention once you test them head to head in that arena.
Have a woman customer buy a used car that came with new CrossClimate tires. Even tho we didn’t get much snow , she didn’t like them, too slippery , especially pulling away. Maybe she has a heavy foot at lights but she has lost her sense of safe winter driving. Just ordered her rims and snow tires
@@buffystclair9042 BS
Had them 3 years onPT Cruiser Turbo Ltd. So far excellent. Excellent. Will spin in oily first rain at stop lights if we goose it . What doesn’t? How old are the tires ? Used car? Did you drive it? I know somebody……………….
Both my vehicles currently have CrossClimate2's installed as they are the next best thing to dedicated snow tires. I had previously swapped summer tires with winter tires every year, but got tired (hehe...) of that. Now I just run CC2s all year long. However, competition is good... would be nice to have some competition for the CC2s to bring prices down.
Cross climate 2’s really hug the road . I have them bought even though have general grabbers winters on rims . I decided to try the winters this year as there was more snow . I’m comfortable with both in winter conditions with the CC’2’s being the best tire made for winter rain . I’ll run the grabbers out then simply not go back . The CC’s do may have slightly less gas mileage on them compared to all seasons though , but only slight .
I have the Michelins on my daughter's Kia Niro. They started out really well with good traction. As they've aged however the rubber seems to have gotten much harder and provides less traction. My beef with Goodyear's is that I never get close to the rated mileage before they're worn out. Your results may vary.
I miss the Goodyear Aqua Tread 3, had good snow bite, however it was just fantastic in rain and water collected in road dips on the interstate. This tire would not buffer just remove the water was just great.
GY's are over 4lbs. per tire heavier for my size compared to the CC2's and from stock tries that's over 7lbs per tire for the GY's!! I installed the CC2's on my previous car and loved every aspect of them. Because of the weight I will go with the CC2's once again!
Great review, thank you! Being in Canada, I'd like to know a bit more about how they compared in snow/slush, but overally this was a very helpful video.
@@stevebridge4375
That are great in deep slush at 30 mph in town early in the morn.
We have drivin through
13 in snow all wheel drive.
I even stopped a few times and no prob .
They are good on ice
But slow and go is the trick to ice.
Michelin took a new set of the tires and shaved them down 4/32 and tested them and found they actually worked a little better in snow than a new set.2 days after blizzard
I turned onto a hard snow packed road near me.
My first break test.
I took off at about 1/3 Rd
Throttle and no spin so I hit it harder and no spin then at 50 I jammed the brakes and I was shocked the car stopped like it was dry black top anti locks never activated.id did it again at 55 and the anti locks activated when I got down to 1 mph one activation.
I wouldn't get any other tire I don't care how well people like them .
The only downside is possible hydroplaning at higher speeds in curves.
I slow for curves anyway.
@@spartanj2957 Excellent thanks a lot! That is really helpful.
i bought Cross climate 2. Best tires I've ever driven on. Does everything well.
The goodyears are better. Its the Cross climate 2s with improvements basically
The Michelins cost us 3 mpg on our Escape Hybrid and after 20k became noisy as heck with a loud drone. Changed at 50k and 3/32 tread and the next tires were super quiet, showing it was indeed the CC 2's
I can't speak to the WeatherReady as I've never tried them, but I did have the Comfordrive which had the Comfortread technology.
They were not bad tires, but I didn't like them as much as the previous Comfortread Touring. I put about 45k miles on them and traded them for the Crossclimate 2. The Michelin's are superior in every single category. Smoother, quieter, better handling in rain and dry conditions. I only have about 7500 miles on the CC2's so I guess I will see how they wear, but so far they are some of the best tires I have ever owned.
I live outside Rochester, NY. Let's face it. We can handle the snow. You may have a bad day or 2 (per snow event) where you need the advantage of dedicated winter days. I believe that used to be true. However with all the tech in the cars nowadays, it gets rather expensive and inconvenient to swap tires. Whether they have dedicated rims or not.
I had a 2001 Toyota Solara. The car wasn't the best handler in the winter. I put the Goodyear Triple Tread Assurance (directional) tires on my car. I was shocked. The tech actually worked. I was sold at that point that I really didn't need a dedicated winter tire. Their only downside was that they were a bit noisy.
I was looking to put the same tires on my 2013 Avalon after 22,000 miles of horrible Bridgestone stock tires and the Continental "Extreme Contact" (top rated "All Season" tire for winter) set. I then found out that Goodyear no longer made the Triple Tread tire. It was replaced by their "Weather Ready" A-Symmetrical Assurance tire (first exposure to this new rating). It was either these or Michelin's Cross Climate at 30% more and less wear.
I wanted a tire that handled that slushy sloppy condition. You know, it's that slop between your lane and the one (ones) next to you. Again, surprised how good they were for being a non-directional tire. Better ride, quiet and best in class mileage warrantee.
I now have a 2024 Lexus ES 350. It's IS worth the little extra money. The car came with either Michelin or Bridgestone stock tires. I had the dealer change the tires to Michelin's or I wasn't going to buy the car. Enough said? I was thinking about getting the Michelin Cross Climate 2 when I need new tires. I now see that Goodyear has a Weather Ready 2 line out now. They are directional and look a lot the the Michelin tires. I will most likely stick with Goodyear. Oh, that advertised Goodyear "Comfort Quiet" ride technology does actually work.
Disclaimer: Tire performance may very depending on model of vehicle and driver!
I'd say the Weatherready 2's biggest advantage is Goodyear's rebates.
Regarding the "built-in wear gauge" - in the US west states like CA have tire chain requirements, which are often (depending upon conditions) waived with AWD/4WD and M+S. M+S is legal with 6/32 or more tread. So, this is a cool feature for that reason.
70,000 miles versus 32,000, Michelin for the win
Just found out in 2018 Michelin Agilis CrossClimates commercial tire also comes with the build-in tread depth marking and I would not be surprised that they are not the first one who did it.
I get very little snow but all at once usually so I’m leaning towards the Goodyear because the cc2 suck in the wet during an emergency maneuver.
I am using Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady 2. They are good
How about noise and comfort?
They definitely ride softer!
They are good in slushy roads too. They grip well
@@shikamarunarakonoha of course they have to be good because you pay over $1000 for them. These are not $500 tires that would be good anyway
The cross climate 2 is definitely a great tire not only that but it performs down to replacement level exceptionally well however it is a few years old and I think some of the competitors are starting to catch up with various trade-offs in mind, I have one car with the CC2 and another with Bridgestone weather peaks.
As someone who likes getting over the average the dealership says my car can I know tires play a huge role in that. Half or more of all tires leave that out. I’ll give up a little handling for much better gas mileage.
We have Goodyear vector all season tyres here in the UK ,we don’t have the weather ready ones .,I have the Michelin CC 2 on my vehicle.
all my vehicles have Michelin tires, made in canada, Nova Scotia, forget Goodyear.I have noticed that most quality cars comes with Michelin..
Jokes on you, most GY are made in Canada too lol
I worked for Michelin in Bridgewater NS as a millwright. No better tires
On my motorcycles too
@@vinnys7514 These Goodyears were made in Chile...it was in the video.....@ 0 :34 sec
It would be interesting to see how each will perform after five years on the roads under the sun and how long they will last.
Had aquatreads in the 1990s. Like them.
Goodyear has had simmilar tires for law enforcement only.
Glad their going on their initial like design from the 1990s...
Looking forward.
These tires look promising, but snow & ice performance is what makes the Michelin’s great. Also the Michelins keep their performance regardless of tire wear.
Most all weather, all terrain tires with the 3 peak mount symbol are pretty good under 15k miles, after that they lose their winter performance.
My first set of CrossClimate2 went for 58,000 miles and had 5mm tread depth. Sold it for 50% of what I paid for and bought the second set now at 31,000 miles and no issue in snow or ice. It replaced both my OEM Micheline Energy Saver A/S and Micheline X-Ice Xi3 and cost less to own without paying the swapping twice a year.
Good comparison. My only nit pick is you downplayed the full thickness sipes on the Michelin. As the tires wear the siping will remain longer on the Michelin. Equaling better traction and more safety.
Loved the video...always great to see the comparison..I've always believed that Michelin was priced higher even when I was buying for my BIG truck.. even as much as I like Michelin I always shop around...so thanks for your informative comparison!!!
The cross climate you can have installed at Costco without installation fee so it might be cheaper for some people.
Bj's has the wr2 with free installation as well
@ what’s BJ’s?
@@rayvalero8580 your google broken?
Made in Chile, bring this American Company back to the USA
MAGA
I hope the weather ready is better than their first one. I bought a set for our ‘18 crosstrek…huge disappointment. I’d always had Michelin defenders.
Awesome tires 😊
I only care about the snow and ice test. I know how to drive with anything in other conditions. Thanks for talking about the WRG5 in the past.
They are not as good as the WR's on ice. They are as good as Blizzaks LMs. However, like the LM's they are better in any winter codition except ice. Better handling, better dry road, better wet, better braking, longer life, etc. If you live in an area where most winter driving is on packed snow and ice, then the WR blizzaks are the tire for you. In any other condition, even in the snow belt, the crossclimate is a better choice. Plus, and best of all, you never have to swap them in summer where they perform very well, as shown in this test. The only "all season" tire that doesn't suck all year!
What's the point of this "test" without snow and ice tests?
Any rolling resistance comparison between the 2?
So the siping gets wider as the tire wears down? So in other words, the tire wears faster as the tire wears down. Unless you’re always on wet roads, it’s a disadvantage.
All tires have a gauge on them. Not numbered but at the depth for being legal or not , a bar runs across the tire sidewall to sidewall. You just have to look. Don't need a penny to see if they are still legal , but that works too.
Goodyear has been aiming straight for Michelin lately and seems to do a good job. This tire is a winner.
Just want to correct one thing : Michelin pioneered thread grooves that gets wider when the tire is worn (back on the Premier A/S and some heavy truck tires as well) and the CrossClimate 2 does have this technology and does advertise best in class performance when worn.
what about snow performance? isn't that the whole reason to get this tire?
No. They are all seasons not winter tires
These were made in Chile. It is in video 0:34. Have seen other videos about tires being out of round from Chile.
The difference in the tire warranties is because 100,000 kms is actually closer to 62,000 miles while 95,000 kms is almost exactly 60,000 miles ( a little lower actually ).
Why is the Goodyear WeatherReady 2 not sold in Germany? Or is it "just" a different name here, maybe 4Seasons G3?
Which tires are better in the snow?
Michelins cross climate 2 have a utqg ratting of b traction. Goodyears has a rating of a. Tires go from AA to C. This rating measures the distance it take to stop on wet pavement based off of standards defined by the utqg. That shows that the Michelins will take more distance to stop. Me, I found a fantastic tire that has a AA traction rating and performs beautifully except for ride comfort. General tires as-05 s a fantastic tire and from what I have found, extremely affordable and durable. I’ve had plenty of harsh accelerations over 100mph, hit potholes at 80plus, I did hit a curb making a u turn, my transmission case cracked but the tire is perfect to this day.
I have a Crossclimate 2. The first two winters (in central European conditions) I had no problem - but this winter the first snow and a big disappointment. No traction, it was slipping. Mileage approx 35k km - so quite a disappointment for me.
Michelin Crossclimate 2 also features Evolving Traction Grooves...
I buy based on how they perform on SLUSH.. Salted snowfall turns to Slush when temps are in the 20's , which needs evacuation, and can cause a Bigger "Slush -plane" Event. So why go to Akron, with NO Snow, NO ICE, NO Slush ?
@@Formulabruce agree, slush is what majority of snow belt drivers drive on in their daily commute. Driving on slush feels very different and more slippery than driving on fresh snow. Unfortunately nobody tests tires on slush. Most tests are done on compacted snow.
Very true. I did ask a pro tire reviews regarding this question and the answer is that the All Weather tire that performs better in the rain would be the one that perform better in the slush as well. Slush is way to complicated to duplicate due to every region, country, city and town may have different way dealing with it. Some using liquid chemicals, some use sand and salt, some use mixed of both... plus the different type of snow contents (by the sea with salt, by the lake with no salt) and temperature conditions in different areas, too difficult to reproduce consistently to use as a standard test at this time.
I have the cross Climate 2s on a heavy Land Rover and for a do all tire its about as good as I have used. There is no perfect tire but changing out roads for winters 2x a year gets very old and increases risk of getting a lug snapped by the shop. (2 in the last year) The are skewed a bit towards winter which is fine if you live in Wisconsin michigan ohio etc. Im sure a true road ties would be better in handling in the summer, with a SUV that is not a big issue they are not low to the ground anyway.
THey are better in snow and ice for sure and better than a true snow in the summer for sure. Better than my old Perelli all seasons in the winter by a long shot on stopping on icy roads.
Well it looks like they nailed the shape, now let's see if they got the tire compound correct for snow. I've owned the CrossClimate SUV and currently have the CrossClimate 2's and love them both. I do miss some of the dry and wet handling of the OG CrossClimate but CrossClimate 2 makes up for that in the added snow handling. Let's be honest I didn't have these tires on a sports car so no "real" loss with handling.
FYI, I live in the PNW and during winter will regularly drive from dry/wet Fall conditions up and over the pass through 6 inches of snow with ice or slush with no problems.
Having said all of that, I hope the WeatherReady's are just as good and add some competition to Michelin.
Which in your opinion is better; the weather ready 2 or Remedy Wrg5?
How about noise and comfort?
Where are the aces for the snow, ice, stopping distance?
I just put 1000 miles on a set of the CC2s and a chunk of that was in the UP of Michigan last weekend in 12" of snow. What I noticed was that my antilock breaks never kicked in coming to an intersection. They always did with my old Bridgestones.
I wish they would bring back the Michelin Harmony tire that was frighteningly quiet and had aggressive, wet weather traction, and if you kept the wheels in a good alignment and rarely drove aggressively, they might last five years easily now all their tires, the black 40,000 mile tires
However, the CrossClimate 2, is known for it's superior snow performance (rated no. 1 by a long shot in all the reviews I have seen) and also has the lowest roll resistance. It only has problems on ice, and maybe the inner fine threads on the Goodyear could be better at handling that, but only time will tell.
Thanks for the review! Coming from these Michelin tires, which I love all the features of, I have had problems over time with slow leaks. Just enough to be annoying where I have to fill up my tires weekly, but not bad enough to locate a leak or have anything done about it through the dealer. As you mentioned, the michelins are definitely not a bad tire!
@@th0mas21 That is related to the installation or run condition. I had the same issue on the first set of CC2 but the new set and second car was installed at Costco and holds pressure even after 6 months later without dropping any pressure except going up and down influence by different temperatures at the time of measurement monthly.
I bought a 2025 CR-V 2 months ago, and with 1,355 miles on it I immediately switched to the CrossClimate2's because I have to cross a 9,300ft mtn pass every week for work. I originally wanted the Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires I'd had on my 2010 RAV4 V6 AWD (totaled by a drunk, hence the new CR-V), but it seems they're discontinuing that tire because the size I needed was no longer available. So, since the CR-V will not have to go offroading like my RAV4 did (I have a 2024 Colorado ZR2 for that now), the CR-V can be a street vehicle exclusively, so, I chose the CC2's to work in the snow. And after a trip to Durango/Silverton/Ouray/Telluride the other weekend, they do great in all the conditions I tried them in. Somewhat better in the packed snow/icy conditions, but a lot better in deeper snow, and WAY better in heavy rain/standing puddles. No surprise, they're modeled after Michelin's F1 rain tires. I've had great luck with Michelins so I think I'll stick with them for now, though I'll probably go with Goodyears for the ZR2.
I live in Pacific NW where winters can be freezing rain, snow and ice. I bought Goodyear Commercial rated, Kevlar SUV tires for my Yukon. Great in rain, nice ride and the Kevlar helps as the locals have a bad habit of breaking bottles in parking lots because they can. Too lazy to take bottles & trash to a trash can as I do.
These tires are ok in snow but I drive safely so rarely have an issue but they do not do well on ice.
I feel my investment was sound and drive wisely.
Went with the Goodyear for price and USA company.
Im not sold. This may have made more apt to stay with crossclimate2 ... Im waiting for crossclimate3 in the hopes that Michelin pushes the allweather performance a bit closer to the warm side maybe the same difference between 1 and 2
Cross climate 2’s are actually rated at a winter tire level with the Triple Peak Mountain and Snowflake symbol… these imo are the future of tires… you don’t need to change them… like it should have always been.
I'm under the impression that the tire company certifies their tires as three peak rated?
Other reviews have noted that the Michelin excelled in the snow, but were lacking in the rain, as one often compromises the other. If these tires are so similar, then is the Goodyear lacking in the rain, as compared to ones like the Pirelli Weatheractive, Continental All Season etc.???
Living in Michigan, I am familiar with both Snow & Rain and want performance in both.
Cheers, Tony
SLUSH... Can the tire get rid of Slush?
I was told Michelin Crossclimate 2 was being discontinued. I bought Bridgestone Alenza tires, after watching tire rack review. It’ rated for 80k and I’ve had them about 16k and been very happy so far. Snow in my area was low on amount. Does anyone know the status of Crossclimate2?
Someone lied to you BIG TIME. They are not being discontinued. They suckered you into a one of the worst tires on the market. ouch.
@ Watch the TireRack review on a ALENZA, I have 16k on them and they have performed excellent so far.
@@SharonMcQ384 I did, 9 feet longer to stop in dry. 7 feet longer in wet. Will be MUCH worse in snow. Not to mention not get the 95k estimated tread live of the cc2 as reported by consumer reports. OUCH.
@ if you're doing your own testing, you have to take an account the co- friction (Drag Factor) of the roadway at testing time. Please watch the review on the tire rack. They showed 50 more feet over the cross climate 2 on pack snow, with better rain performance.
Can these tires fit my Tesla?
Good review however these are both Allweather tires and the whole “ allure “ of that class of tires is the improved snow and ice performance over Allseason tires. I can only give my two cents on the Cross Climate 2 tires and since I currently have been running them for two winters and three summers on our 2017 Toyota Highlander AWD. The last two winters saw somewhat less than normal amounts of snow ( usually heavy wet or outright slushy slop ) but there’s been many times over the past two winters where the temperatures have been hovering just above freezing during the day and a couple degrees below freezing at night. The first three years we owned this vehicle I ran the original Michelin Lattitudes in the warmer months and swapped on some Michelin X Ice Winter tires from early November to early April. I have found the CrossClimate 2s to be almost as secure on ice and whatever snow we’ve had as the X Ices were. Of course using common sense and driving to conditions ( accelerate gentler, brake sooner and softer and turn more carefully ) helps these tires do what they are designed to do. I’ve always run Goodyears so I have a “ soft spot “ for them and am not going to write them off as an equal to the Cross Climates. I am a little concerned about the “ softer sidewall “ because although it should give you a quieter and less bumpy ride, tire roll over will likely increase which could be a concern during the more spirited driving seasons. I was under the impression that the Michelin CrossClimate 2’s also had a tread that widened as it wore down but maybe that was the newer Michelin Ice& Snow tires which I have on my wife’s car during thewinter and my son has on his car. Those are uncharacteristically smooth, quiet ( almost silent ) and they don’t give a noticeable penalty on fuel consumption as well as being grippy as hell in snow, ice as well as they wear slowly for a winter tire with grip. I imagine Michelin will be coming out with a Cross Climate 3 sometime in the next couple years although even with some competitors getting close or catching up to the Cross Climate 2s in the past year or so they don’t really have to yet. On my tire tread depth gauge the Cross Climates showed 11/32s when brand new and now with 2 winters and 3 Summers of driving there’s still 8/32s left. Granted with 3 vehicles in the household and the “ pandemic “ I haven’t been putting on the miles over the past few years but I don’t leave it parked a lot either. I will buy theses tires again in a heartbeat but I will look at the Goodyears as well. By the time I need to do that, there should be more extensive testing and comparisons of these two tires as well as Bridgestones??? new All Weather tire.
I need a tire that will not quit when the road Temps are less than 32°.
I think the three peak snow rated symbol is mainly a marketing gimmick. The tire manufacturer's own trade association (US Tire Manufacturers Association) is made up of essentially any tire manufacturers that pays to be a part of the USTMA sets the "standards". I put the three peak snow symbol in the same category as a tires "Tread Wear Rating". It's whatever the tire manufacturer claims it to be with no independent lab testing (either private or government) or any published set of tests for someone to actually compare data between two different tires.
This is what I've been told, if I'm wrong please correct me. I'm hoping this new WeatherReady 2 has sizes to fit my 21" SUV rims.
Most winter tires vastly surpass the 3PMSF ratings, which only has be 10% better than a reference tire to get certified. But I've had gawd awful winter tires that barely performed better than all-seasons (I'm looking at you, Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2), so you're not wrong.
My Crossclimate 2's have been excellent for winter, btw.
Are they available now?
Testing these tire is not about who is the best. You have to compare specific multi weather performances. It is not just about snow.
As fas as I found out the CC2 is better in snow, compared to th GY. However just cold weather, combined with rain, the GY performs better. However both performe very well as they are both top quality tires. Making the choice is not just one is better than the other.
Did you notice that the Goodyear tire was made in Chile?
like the Michelin tires was made in Russia until the war started and they change the manufacturing country? Sure, why not!?
@@Jeo-What It would just be nice to see tires made in the USA.
@ true but the US labour rate is... $$$
Made by the same corporate group with the ssme tevhnology available.
They should be comparable, as both are considered top-tier by the corporation.
My cross climates are quiet. I thought they were going to be noisy because of the reviews.
Yea, I just purchased a set of CC2 tires. I am very surprised, as they seem very quiet to me, much quieter than the OEM Continentals that came on the car. I don't understand the reviewers who say they are noisy. I suppose it could vary depending on the car and road surface, but they seem very quiet to me.
Same here 255/35/19 extremely quiet
2:33 if there is one thing Akron knows it's bad roads 😊
Soon as Goodyear realizes, they priced a tire cheaper than a competitor they will raise that price. They know they're better.
They "thinlk" they're better...
As noted - we need a nice winter test - domestic driving for say the crowd that drives 15,000 km or less a year, so they "traditionally tend" to have the dual tires (all season and winter say) that age out before they get close to wearing out and so have perhaps many driving on out-dated or staler tires after say 4 years - instead of just replacing with the latest all weather in say year 5. I was wanting to get winter tires but destiny had taken a hand and I ending up getting very excited about the all weather refinements and technologies - got the Bridgestone WeatherPeak which were "the newest to market" at the time. Another advantage is that all weather I found superior in the "between" season of spring and fall - as you get cold, dirt and leaves and imperfect surface, with water or snow - where even the all season can be in the edges of limits - certainly compared to an all weather. The finances - tires, rims, sensor, storage - winter dualism has such a large footprint to execute; not to mention paying either interest (debt) on that OR losing at least 4% compounded every year as you cannot invest that spent money.
...and compared to the Weatherpeak?
I was looking at the Weatherpeak as we need new tires this year. It’s gotten some great ratings. But two negatives keep popping up. Across multiple review sites and subreddits
1. People are reporting that they’re barely getting half the rated miles of the tire before the tread is gone
2. The rubber on the sidewalls is thin which increases the chances of tearing if you’re off-road on a trail or even just rubbing against a curb
@@jerrydelgatto7999 hmmm. I drive streets only. Wear is okay in one year. Handle great!
Weather ready. One tire still looks better. 😊
Use a decible meter to measure the sound.
I have a set of weather ready on our 18 crosstrek…been in two years and they’re going this spring. Garbage! Going back to Michelin defenders.
There's not a ton of meaningful info presented in this video. Calling a wear indicator an "ace up the sleeve" is a pretty big reach. It doesn't matter. There's also no hard numbers presented for stopping distances, lateral Gs, rolling resistance, traction numbers in wet, snow, and ice, etc. Can't really say which was is better or worse without presenting actual data.
Thanks for the video. Hopefully there will be reviews of these two in snow performance as well soon since Crossclimate 2 has been tested as good as the best premium snow tires in snow and ice handling and the best of breaking and acceleration of all All Weather tires. The tread depth indicator i and quieter rides are nice touches though.
After watching the tread ware animation in slow motion a few more times, looks like this tire ware off the first layer of tread pretty well at 6mm depth and the surrounding tread cuts/sips disappears very quickly afterward so I am concerned about the performance longevity.
I am never loyal with any brand name as long the products is well made I will buy them. As a gentle accelerate & breaking slow driver (around speed limit is call slow these days I guess) with a FWD HEV, I am on the second set of CC2 since 2020 and driving average 100Km per day. First H-Speed set I drove 93,000Km-94,000Km with 5mm (6/32nd) tread depth left on these 5 year / 100,000Km warranty EV approved tires (I believe they are factory OEM tires on high end Mustang March-E EV and other EV now) and sold it for 50% of what I paid for. I used the money to buy the current V-Speed set just past December. The current set is already at 50,000Km+ at 7mm tread depth last week and they are still very competent in 1+ foot of unplowed snow, ice, freezing rain and deep slush or through 6" of flooded streets just this past year with their full depth treads that has been tested by Michelin and 3rd party tire test reviews down to 2mm tread depth in these conditions (and in their announcement presentation).
Looking forward to the long term test on this tire in the coming year before I need the tire replacement next year.
Seems like major improvement though ice grip and pothole resistance remain unknown (aramid fiber anywhere in the tire?).
I had a set of those once. Going 10mph around a soft turning lane in the rain I touched the painted line and my car went completely sideways. They channel water away great but they have no lateral grip. Don't fall for their gimmick.
I have the Goodyear ones, I tested them in heavy rain. Did about 85mph in my rav4 hybrid and cut through the rain like butter on freeway. Took my car to the mountains to test in snow and was able to drive up cabin roads etc. not sure what ur talking about