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The A7C was originally a stills camera. That’s why someone would buy it over the ZV. They prioritize the stills and evf experience.
Hybrid. It was made after the A7iii. Just like the A7cii is made after the A74.
This exactly. I need that evf. And don't like SLR style bodies. That's why this is the cam for me.
I dont get why people even compare them, completily different cameras. ZV is a vlog-based videocentric camera that has 12 mp and no EVF, while A7C is a compact 33mp (dope stills, good video) hybrid. They dont even slighty compare and are aimed at 2 different markets.
yup exactly, and still can provide amazing video when needed
exactly, hybrid camera
Wow literally just came home with mine. And look my favorite videographer drops a video saying your coming to Sony. I can’t wait to see what you do with this. Keep doing your thing bro!
Appreciate it!
I can already see the crispiness of the A7Cii image(11:45) over your Canon Camera intro image(1:01).
You totally missed that the ZV E1 is more likely to overheat for longer form video content like podcasts, interviews or livestreams so it’s better for short run and gun clips especially with lots of movement
Photos, if you plan to use the camera as a hybrid camera you’ll get better photos with the a7cii over the zve1. The ability to shot 4K with crop sensor lenses/mode, Plus a slightly better form factor use the a7cii.
На zv нет возможности использовать вспышку, только на штативе, никакой речи о фотографии на неё не идёт
I bought this camera a few days ago. I am not a professional content creator just a hobbyist who shoots primarily stills. I was upgrading from the A7II. I bought this camera to get a smaller form factor and most of the bells a whistles of the A7IV. I could see how this camera could not be for everyone but I think it suits me just fine
Get yourself the Phantom Luts and shoot slog3. Protect your highlights and if it looks good, it is good. Yes there are a lot of picture profiles but most only use slog3. It’s much easier than it used to be. Can’t wait to see what you make!
Totally agree! That's exactly what I do.
I’m new to your channel and it looks like you primarily produce video content. The a7c series of cameras is meant to be a more portable version of Sony’s entry level cameras; the a7 series.
The a7cII is really for the people that want to shoot both photo and video, and want the camera that does it to be small and light - usually for travel.
Ultimately: if someone came to me and said they wanted a jack of all trades camera that they could take on the road for travel, this is what I’d recommend to them.
This is actually like my dream camera! Love the look of the body and just great for hybrid use! Since you’re testing out the camera and it is for stills and video you should make a video testing out the photo side! Not sure if you’re too into that realm but would love to see it! Also, flats are better than drums!
same same!
I think the a7 series is targeted towards hybrid shooters with a photo bias and the Zv and fx series is targeted towards video and film makers
This makes sense!
Wouldn’t you be better of buying a Zv-1 or fx30 for your work?
Or even the fx3, fx6, if it’s in your budget?
Facts
You will definitely like FX3 or ZV-E1 even better than A7Cii. Having the same quality across 24-60-120 fps is just amazing! No crop, no resolution loss or quality loss.
And I just love this 12mp sensor. Also the lowlight performance even better. You just have to remember to stick around two native ISOs
yes for video, not for hybrid. A7Cii have native ISOs or not?
Yeah and the zve1 will overheat like crazy
Love this review.. I'm actually selling my A7IV for the A7CII, its got all the features I could ask for to give professional results in a compact unassuming body.. pair it with some apse glass and its a perfect travel cam. It can be a bit intimidating carrying my A7 iv about. I love that Sony fit these features in such compact bodies
why would you sell it? why not keeping both?
wouldn't a7cr a better choice?
I would say it depends on what you do, having 2 SD cards slots + full HDMI port are two features that I use a lot for professional work@@1120tiknuhc
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When you've been doing video so long you forget people use cameras for stills 😅
I've been using the a7c since it came out, i wanted a full frame, rangefinder style body for so long because vintage lenses get cropped so bad on crop sensors. I use it for video primarily, but also a ton of stills when im at a competition for work. It's a great little hybrid body.
(flats are better than drums)
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I'm a beginner and I discovered your channel sometime early this month. i really appreciate you videos especially your budget buys. Keep them coming. FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS
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I would give the FX3 a shot my guy! it might not be the BEST photography camera, but for video? a great value , the ZVE1 would be great if it didnt have a weird overheating history
FX3 actually had a physical shutter tho, so a MASSIVE plus there.
You the only creator I sub to that gets me back in to filming and shooting. And besides, drums are better than flats 💯
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The a7cii is definitely meant to be a hybrid as the 12MP of the ZV is too low for a lot of photographers
This makes sense!
Yessir! I ordered this because of the video capabilities, plus a bump in mp.
Late to the party but I stumbled upon your video as I was doing research into the a7cii bcoz I’m thinking about purchasing. I found your video very informative.
Flats are better than drums.
The a7iv/a7c ii is solid for stable sticks shots (oversampled), but the rolling shutter is pretty heavy for gimbal movement or handheld. You’re sacrificing rolling shutter for the 32mp sensor. Yeah ZVE1 would be a more video move since it’s basically an a7s iii on slim fast
Rolling shutter values:
A7s iii/fx3/fx6 8.7ms
R5c/c70 15.5ms
A7iv/a7c ii 26.8ms
THIS is the experience I did NOT get with these tests, it’s really hard to experience rolling shutter when you’re filming yourself in a tripod. Thanks for this info
@@YCImagingI shoot fast action automotive video with my A7iv and the rolling shutter is very noticeably when doing quick pans. I absolutely love it for photos but definitely considering an FX3 or something similar for video strictly. Global shutter I doubt will come to mirrorless cameras because it’s technically “older” technology, but in my kind of work it’s honestly really needed to combat distortion. Genuinely considering a RED Komodo X just because of this.
Additionally, when switching to APS-C mode, the rolling shutter improves considerably. It feels like it's around 16ms territory when in APSC.
This is another reason I got the R6 II over the A7IV. 2x faster rolling shutter (about 13ms on the R6 II) and full frame 4K60... and much faster photography speeds too.@@mcintosh.motors
Always keep in mind the purpose of the camera. The C-series cameras are the compact full frame bodies intended for travel and enabling folks to roll with a high quality setup that won’t kill your back. They give you _most_ of the important features of the full body versions (the A7C II is the travel version of the A7IV but with the AI chip added). It is a very flexible hybrid camera for photographers that need to be light and nimble. However, it really doesn’t make a lot of sense putting heavy GM lenses on it - unless it is your only camera. I’m not a pro but I’ve been shooting on Canon longer than my adult children have been alive (since 2004). I dabbled with Sony with the A6600, then got the A7C (original). Now, I have the A7RV. I suppose I’m all in at this point. I still have my Canon 6D which I might keep for astro and give my other Canon gear to my kids.
The A7C II is a hybrid travel camera. It’s neither a photo nor video centric camera - it does both decently well. It’s not a full body with all the custom buttons and dials. It’s a travel camera that happens to be full frame. It’s a darn awesome one too.
So excited to see you got the A7CII! I’ve been using the A7C for photography and love it, but I recently picked up the ZV-E1 for more video work. I was debating between the A7CII and the ZV-E1 though. Still not sure if I made the right decision lol
Flats are better than drums
You definitely made the right decision as far as video goes.
@@xn0n_999 Ah glad to hear that, thank you!
Had a canon ae1 back in the 70’s. Just got back into photography. Was going Canon. Ran across a LauraBC, who just switched to Sony from Canon. I got the A7C2, trying to figure out the menu. Im very happy with this decision.
Let’s go 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
As a travelling camera for both photo and video, the A7cii just had a better balance of both worlds Vs the ZV-E1 imo.
Can’t speak for everyone, but personally, using any camera in the ZV line for photography was very frustrating at times.
Why not use a7iv instead? Same megapixels. 4k 60. 10 bit.
Ahh, just went through this same conundrum.
I currently have an a7iii that I love for photos in studio or in a pro environment. But I find the body too cumbersome and indiscreet for travel/daily.
I tested the original A7c for daily/travel and I actually used it. A lot! So I like the body of the original A7c but I want the updated features of the a7iv.
And since this will be more of an on-the-go camera, I’d also find value in the additional 1.5 stop of IBIS, reduced weight, imported LUTs for my videos, in camera time-lapse, and auto-framing - most features I’d only use outside of a studio setting.
In studio or events, where I shoot photos, I’d honestly still use my a7iii. Photo tech isn’t so leaps and bounds advanced that I need more than my a7iii for photos.
If I did more pro-video however, then I wouldn’t even look at the a7iv. It’d be FX3 and up at that point.
Much love from Nigeria bro.....FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS
Flats are better the drumbs... (coming back to add to this once I finish the video) Great video thank you for your opions and test as always. I clocked you teeth looked different but couldn't understand why... They looked great either way, as long as your happy. I hope your happy in life 😊
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I have the ⍺7C mk 1 and have been enjoying it since I bought it. The ⍺7C II has address most of the shortcomings I felt that the 1 had. 4K60, front dial, slightly bigger grip, slightly better EVF, and the new menu system + touch! Planning on upgrading to this and handing down the mk 1 to a family member. It DOES suck that the 4K60 is cropped unlike the ZV-E1 (it's mostly geared to video, and I'm a hybrid shooter), but at least it's present so I can deal with it. Oh, and FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS.
Flats are better than drums.
Hearing you talk in a flow state is always worth sticking around for, my guy.
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the Lumix S5 mk II doesnt have full-frame 60fps btw
The A7cII is 33 megapixels. The ZvE1 is 12. So there you go 😊…and Flats are better than drums. 😅
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Truth! I forgot about photography 🤦🏾♂️
Yeah man I use the A7iii and its been an amazing companion
A great camera
“FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS “ nice video , waiting my link , luv :)
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reasons to get a7cII over ZV-E1:
second dual base iso is 3200 - more usable IMHO
MUCH sharper 4K
no overheating
Flats are better than drums. Also I think the EV-1 with its 12mp sensor is more video focused and the A7Cii with the 33mp sensor is a hybrid for photo / video. If largely or entirely a video shooter then EV-1 is the choice at $2,198. But if you want photo plus video (although not as video feature rich as EV-1), then choose the A7Cii. Two cameras, same price points, but different use cases. I’m ok with that. Since I want one camera to cover my photo and video use the A7Cii is the better choice for me vs the EV-1.
Zve1 is for vlogging with short format video. It has overheating issues. The a7cii is for hybrid shooters. It has 33MP for photos also. Zve1 is basically just for vlogging.
The images are very nice. I like what it produces. I’m making a switch to Sony too.
Flats are better than drums.
GREAT video brah and for the record FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS 😆 💯tho
I'm so old. I remember buying the 5dii brand new like it was yesterday lol. Glad i got out of the Canon fam. The only camera i ever purchased new. A7Riii all day
The sharpness in log is crazy !!!
Flats are better than drums !
I'm one of those 120fps junkies. I agree most people won't really need it but I do lol. the thing is I shoot a wide range of stuff and 120 fps is very critical for capturing actions that 60 fps just won't cut it. I can't live without it for sports.
the s5ii does not shoot 4k60 full frame. also people buy this over the zve1 because its a better hybrid camera, 33mp over 12mp for stills. dont know why that needs to be said.
I just got a Sony a7c hopefully it’s a little bit similar
AYO, don't be talking about the homie like that! YC aint no canon fan boy, real ones remember the Sony days!! haha. Great video man. Im glad you checked this camera out.
This or the ZVE1 is my next upgrade. FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS
I'm new to content creation and watching your videos has helped me decide on some equipment choices. Thank you. FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS
@11:15 now I see what’s with all the “FLATS ARE THAN DRUMS” comments!
First of all
Flats are better than drums. But glad you able to test out Sony side of things. If you down size I feel like you’re bigger stuff for your future projects because I know you said something about making films and etc…
Man your part of the reason why I keep going and your education in the photo/video game has been inspiring. Keep going! I use a Canon 90d & Black Magic 6k Pro. I’ve thought about upgrading but with the knowledge you’ve dropped I’ve been able to stay relevant without upgrading.
Flats ARE better than drums.
Honey lemon pepper wet
How do you like this for stills? I don’t shoot video and was leaning a7iv, but this is compelling with the AI autofocus tech over the iv. Great video
Cause the ZV-E1 is video only camera while the A7CII is a hybrid for video and photos as well.
I agree it doesn’t make sense w a7iv and zv e1 and a7r4. If you need a hybrid go w a7iv. If video centric zv e1. If photo centric go with a7riv. I see really no benefits w a7cii except for slightly lower price (just get a7iv used).
FLATS ARE BETTER THEN DRUMS
Love this video canon user for years thinking about getting a Sony cinema camera.
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Since I am still on my A7iii I have been looking for what body to jump unto next.. the a7c models are models that I'm kind of like just ignoring to be honest.. well this video just piqued my interest!
FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS lol
EVF, EVF,EVF 😂 Photographers approve. 33mp are great on the photo side. Cheers man.
Why not ZV-E1? Because 33 vs 12.1 megapixels. Which matters if you're not a video only shooter.
I'm also intrigued by the Zv-E1 over the A7cii at this price point. I suppose it truly depends on one's shooting priorities. Thanks for this video. FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS.
Flats are better than drums 😅 YCImaging man, you've been one of the first youtubers that inspire me day in and day out, I can't even remember when was the fist time I've watch your videos. I still remember buying one of your transitions packs for Premiere. Just wanna say thank u for all these years creating for youtube. If u ever feel to come down to Brazil, and need a tour guide/cinematographer let me know man, much love!
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Great camera just switched from canon to a7cii
YCImaging ZV1 can't do 15/1 shutter if you use for photgraphy it does not have Bulb it start at 30/1 it is more for videographers
Flat are better than drums. My favorite youtube creator. Your storytelling in vlogs has gotten so much better over the years. I'm loving this camera but my budget isn't there yet. I'll save for it but should I get this or a6700 for a more versatile camera? Or keep my a6000 for backup for taking photos
You might like the FX3 better.. imho.
Greetings from France. Flats are better than drums great video buddy. Nice vibes
Flats are better than drums. Great video YC. Always a joy listening to you talk.
It downsamples 7k image to 4k the zv -e1 doesn’t.. it’s basically a smaller a7iv
Its amazing how competition makes all these camera companies packing these gears with some incredible features, now there's no excuse to make great content regardless of what you shoot with... amazing content like normal my g
mic is clipping... just pointing it out no hate - love your stuff -been here for years and also thinking about that camera
Flats are better than drums. Considering jumping into the world of Sony, FX3 seems like a pretty clear choice for video but I need more from the world of photography. Thanks for review
How about Canon R8? For the price, 4k/ 60fps with no crop, better roling shutter than Sony A7 CII/ A7 IV, better ergonomics, same AF from Canon R3/R6 II...
Just bought my a7cii... as a b cam to my ZV-e1 and a replacement for my a7iii as a photo camera. These new Sony cameras are amazing
Flats are better than drums (idk if i agree but im a good listener)
still using my a7iii as I see no need to truly upgrade yet, Sony just dropped 5 cameras in the last year almost. another 2 years and the price of these new cameras second hand are gonna be looking reallll nice, maybe then I'll pull the trigger on the a7cr, 61mp would be beast for sure.
Personally I still go for the A7Cii because of the hybrid features. Flats are better than Drums
FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS....keep doing it bro
I think the footage looks great! *flats are better than drums*
Flats are better than drums... keep up the good work brother, you the man.
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love the videos over the years man! FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS
No oversampling in zv e1 vs 7k on a7c ii makes a biggg difference imo. I also like the color science a bit better even though they're pretty similar
I went from Canon T4i to NEX7, then way back your a6300 content put me on and I’ve been team Sony ever since.
Love your content bro. Learned a lot from your channel. I am just starting so your perspectives and how you show it, has been a game changer for me, flats are better than drums
The only reason I would like an A7CII, being a ZVE1 owner, is for photography. ZVE1 has issues with banding because of no mechanical shutter. 12 megapixels is sometimes limiting when cropping photos. I like the A7IV, but want a smaller body.
I don’t plan on getting into Sony right now but I could see the A7Cii as a better build quality that handles heat better and is a true hybrid. The ZV-E1 sensor is more cinematic. Once it starts cropping which it does in many settings it’s not true 4K. I’m sticking with Fuji for now…. Hope they continue to improve their autofocus 😂
flats are better that drums (i don't agree lol) but thanks for this video. Looking to purchase a camera for photo/video hybrid use.
There's no viewfinder on the ZV-E1... If you really want a hybrid, that's a dealbreaker for photography.
s5ii's 4k60 is aps-c crop as well, the only camera up to 2500usd (apart from the Z-VE1, that offers full frame 60p is actually the canon R6II, whit the Canonr R6 mark I being really close with 1.07 crop, and the Nikon Z7II with 1.07 as well.
Also is that the Mac Studio you’re running? 👀
A7cii takes better photos with mechanical shutter and higher mega pixel while zve1 has low megapixel count and no mech shutter. A7cii gives you great video without losing the photography side.
I forgot about photography! 🤦🏾♂️
FLATS ARE BETTER THAN DRUMS.
And keep up the good work Broski. Always enjoy your content. Track selection is always on point.
Much love from South Africa.
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Canon just doesn't give up clog2 easily, Sony just doesn't give up slowmotion fullframe easily. I remember everyone was annoyed for about 5 years with every camera release: "no 4k60...no 10bit ...bummer...at least cropped...". And now we got 4k10bit 422 at 120p even 8k60 raw. Why are we still complaining? This is a still camera in a APS-C body. Having all the bells and whistles in this form factor will take cameras another 5 years, at least.
Canon R6. It’s such an illogical beast. So much stuff to keep in your head while filming. Amazing stills. But so often I had to salvage footage. The menu system was fine for stills but just does not cut it for all the roles it has to play. I felt like it was a love affair with a person with multiple personality disorder. I sold mine.
ZV-E1 is more for filmmaker while A7CII is more for hybrid shooter.
flats are better than drums and honestly I LOVE the vibe of this video
It exists because literally not everyone does just video! ZV-E1 is not a photography camera - it has no mechanical shutter or viewfinder! This is aimed at hybrid shooters who want great photo and video capabilities.
If you want compact video centric FF you go with ZV-E1.
If you want compact photo centric FF you go with a7cr
If you want compact hybrid FF you go with a7cii
I have an a7siii which is my main video camera. But it’s not great for being on the road when I want to shoot video AND photo. So I want a hybrid but that is lighter and more compact for travel. That’s why I’ve ordered the a7cii as it solves that. If I need FF60 /120 I will use my other cam, but for most vlogs and travel run and gun, the c2 will be perfect.
I think the footage is pretty good, definitely wondering about the deep shadows but seems cool. Thanks for the video.
Got the canon r8 for $900 direct with canon on BF weekend 4k@60 no problem for what I paid in price compared to a7c ii don’t see why I would up pay more for the song
The main differences to the ZV-E1 are probably overheating issues, view finder, and higher FPS crop?
"Flats are better than drums"
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Why a7c ii over the zv-1? No anxiety regarding over heating with regard to long form content. Super-35 mode is a bonus, especially as a travel camera, literally turning any FF lens into a crop. Crop more also feature decently fast rolling shutter performance. Both, ff and s35 modes have over sampled footage. And, for those photo moments, having a mechanical shutter is most welcome.
damn my boy left the gap gang 🤦🏾♂️ guess it’s time for me to get my Invisalign 🚶🏾♂️😂
alpha 7C ii over ZV-E1 for still photo vs video. 7C ii has almost 3x the megapixels.
What's up YC I send your videos over to my friend Marcel all the time, the most recent being the Music videos don't make $$ video, which he was actually going through, thanks for the consistent content!
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It’s basically a hobbyist/lifestyle/retro camera. Sony marketing most likely was aiming for people to pair it with those new compact G lenses. It makes sense as a travel camera. Not meant to be a workhorse. A walk around low key hybrid camera. When you’re with a client, a big flashy camera makes sense, on your own time, I rather be low key.
flats are better than drums, thanks for the content man🙏