Fuji X-S20 Review vs Canon R8 and Sony A7C II ZVE1
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2023
- Reviewing the Fuji XS20 finally. How does it compare to the competition? Full frame vs aps-c. Lot of really light full frame cameras these days with the Canon R8, Sony A7C II and ZVE1. Panasonic G9 II in this same budget. I go over the main cameras in this budget range for cinematic youtube video vlogging. The G9 II wasn't announced yet when I made this video, probably would have won the category lol.
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G9 II is the winner! 🤘😁
I have a Sony a7ii when it first came out and you loved it then and I purchased a Tamron lens you loved it then what do you think today?😊
I love your music. That song was a perfect fit for the slow-mo people street peeping. Beautiful!
Great job on the video Kasey! Thanks for making it. Fantastic results for your slow-motion street videography.
Would rather have the A7C II over the ZV-E1 for the extra pixels in the still photography shots, 33 vs 12 is a dramatic difference
I was proper vibing to your music during the slow mo street videography. Loved that part.
always love your DIY techno beats lol ,, your shot of the bees was great btw
your best outdoor colors yet, and I'm a long-time viewer ("no guarantees")
I was recently in this market and got used ZV-E1 for 1700 and I am super happy with it.
I got killer deal on og S5 now. Can't beat that value and I find the AF good enough, MF a lot anyway. The lenses are tough but even with the kit lens it can handle low light pretty good, and the range is perfect.
“I’m allergic to frogs” LMFAO. This is by far my favorite photography channel by far!
Man the Classic Neg looked great! Even though I'm heavily invested in Sony, I'd love to dip my toes into the fuji world just to see. Great video as always!
the 240fps was also shot in classicneg I think, just look at the reds and the greens.
The canon R8 night footage was realy high quality cinema ❤
I love this new genre ... street slow-mo videography :D
As a g9 shooter, I look forward to trying the g9 II. Thanks for the video.
Took the X-S20 to Alaska this summer for 10 days. Just shy of 5,000 shots, I'm very happy with the results. My Fuji progression has been: X-T1 -> X-T10 -> X-T3 -> X-S20.
Im looking to get xs20 also looks like the best all around camera and best price
X-T1 -> X-H1 -> X-T5
Just got back from long European trip with the X-T5. Thing was awesome. Does have me thinking of the X-H2 though...
I’m thinking about X-T5 vs XH2s as well.
@@marcust123 I'm late to this convo, but were you not worried about the lack of weather sealing?
@@dgbvideos nope didnt bother me as i dont shoot in the rain and its been a great camera
Are you planning on updating your focus drifting Pany Pony now they have phase detect?
I am loving my X-T20. It took me 3 months to get it from Adorama in my Manhattan, where demand is very high. It does everything I ask it to do, aside from some AF hesitancy in landscape mode. The AF is excellent for portraits and video. The Classic Neg simulation is so good, I think I'll never shoot in RAW again. And this might drive Kasey nuts: I only use Sigma glass with my X-T20 since the Fuji lenses are heavier than the camera itself. I have them all: Sigma 16mm, 23mm, 30mm, 56mm and the 18-50mm zoom. Sometimes I think it would be nice to also own an X-T30 because I am mostly a photographer, but the X-T20 does everything that camera can do, only better. So unless it's free of charge, I will not get an X-T30.
How did you get classic neg on the XT20? Did you mean XS20?
Bought a Canon R8. Use EF lenses. Have 180fps in true FHD 1080p with auto AF. Have a battery pac to power the camera because of the original tiny Canon Battery. Can play with the 180fps video in Topaz to tweak. Actually like using the setup and it costs hundreds less than comparable. So many of the new releases from Sony and Lumix don't interest me, because the new releases just don't meet my needs. I also have and use Sony A7SIII. Nice work Kasey.
Can’t wait for the release of the Lumix G9ii. Thanks for that review.
The ZVE1 is my favorite camera. Slow motion squirrel mating footage in 4K 120 fps changed my life.
The ability to film oneself having sex with animals in 4K slow mo would would not be one of my prerequisites for buying a camera.
Bruh 💀
@the_morf im sorry what
Weird flex but okay
Squirell mark for your convenience: 7:02
Straight out of camera, canon still has the best colour. Canon autofocus can on occasion mess up but it’s rare. Canon has the best ergonomics and best screens and menu system. Sony has best autofocus and lens collection.
Canon doesn't have the best menu, you can't even switch from standard to C-log 3 without diving into the menu and changing multiple things.
Canon menus are below average at this point. Having to take a picture to set custom white balance is insane
@@cameraconspiracies Fair point. But ... I personally don't see myself switching from one picture profile to another often. I would guess most just set their preferred profile, rarely changing it. I am very used to the Canon menu system, so that would explain my bias these days ... I have the C70 and now the R8. And to be fair, I haven't seen the new Sony menu system. I would suggest checking out the C70, it is the most productive camera I have ever used ... once you learn the cinema menu.
@@cameraconspiracies you could put standard profile in custom mode 1 and log in custom mode 2. so you wouldnt need to enter the menu.
@@truthseeker6804 Waste of a custom setting.
Is there any point buying the A7Siii instead of the ZVE-1 for acquisition of the cinema?
ZVE-1 seems like much better deal, but no viewfinder (which is fine)
I’m looking at Fuji X-T5, or XH2s, for an all around great hybrid camera. If you wanted to purchase a Fujifilm camera today, what would you select??
XH2S all the way
Out of curiosity did you have boost mode on for the Fuji?
Out of these cameras, who has the best wireless tethering?
I see that Sony does it, Panasonic does it, but it looks to be a mess.
I just want: turn camera on, take photos, photos transfer to PC desktop.
Any help is appreciated!
I died when you put the aden logo 🤣🤣
I’m loving my ZVE1- the biggest gripe I’ve seen people have with it is the “overheating”- but it hasn’t overheated for me at all…
what's the ambient temp where you run it?
It overheated on me a lot. I live in Florida
@@spaceghostcqc2137 I’m in Utah- I’ve used it while shooting pictures outside in 90+ degree weather- but that’s dry heat so I don’t know if that changes anything. I’ve also streamed for 1.5 hours on multiple occasions (only stream at 1080p though) in a climate controlled office at about 72 degrees
@@Yupthereitism that sucks man! What were you shooting when it happened?
The fujifilm xs20 is great price with packed features!
Yeah! I think so too, however I do not like the fact that it only has 1 SD card slot and it overheats very quickly.
@@larrydiaz7156If those are dealbreakers for you, it wasn’t designed with your use case in mind. Amazing right?
@@larrydiaz7156overheat? Get the attachment fan
I changed the default setting for the overheat warning and really don’t experience significant issues.
Been waiting on you using this camera. Hope there are more videos shot with it. I should have gotten it with that lens. The Viltrox 13 weighs 5 pounds… but I don’t walk around and talk anyway
I loved my XS-20 for 2 weeks, until the LCD screen stopped working. 😢
I can imagine Aden going like "Just put our logo somewhere at the begining of your video"
shooting long periods of time, I went with the A7c II over the ZV-E1. That overheating issue isnt worth the risk for me. but otherwise if I was doing short bursts, I woulda went with it. Plus i just like shiny new things
I am a Canon fan freak and am leaning towards the R8 for my first full frame mirrorless camera. Moving on up from the 90D.
Where is the canon r8 footage from? I didn't see any review.
no review it was from the markus channel gentlmen from his trip you must connect the dots with to deep dive
artistic confluence of light and sound, a swirling pull into intoxication, superb cc
absolutely superb
GH6 all the way for me, however you have also now got me thinking of the ZVE1 and the R8 - they could be worthwhile for me.
Tell us more about the R8.. as a dirty phototgrapher i like that it's the only affordable full frame or aps-c camera with a fast sensor readout, and 4k60 with no crop is amazing. I loved the eos R video quality but I sold mine as it had a lot of shortcomings and an 80ms sensor readout speed
If you’re concerned about affordability I don’t know why you even take the RF mount into account… Expensive corner.
I‘m coming from the EF mount where life was good while it lasted, but I‘m taking my money to Sony now.
@@AlexChama depends what you want out of full frame.. the RF 16, 35 and 85 are versatile and affordable, you get fast sensor readout and canon colours. I am equally torn between it and the sony A7C. For zooms and wildlife, I have lots of micro 4/3rds gear
That canon footage looked amazing actually
So does the G9ii best them all?
Who knows? Poor old Panasonic … they actually support his channel and send him cameras to review but get left out of this comparison 😧📷 🐴
Pretty much, but much heavier. This is kind of a new category of super light but capable cameras.
Big fan of new xs20, Fuji actually fixed all issues with previous one, except IBIS sucks as noted. Get the SMall RIg cage for Fuji, game changer 😊
Nah, the AF is still mediocre for video. You can see it sometimes pulsing. It's like ADHD issue, can't focus for a prolonged time
Yeah, I was too excited at first, this camera is not competitive in AF and IBIS. Especially with 3d party lenses
@@50shadesofNV what camera do you have? I currently own the fuji xt30 but want to change. The autofocus is ass and low light aswell. Shooting videos is only possible when using a tripod or trying to hold really still. I was eying the fx30 but might just cop the ZVE1 or should i just get the 7C II. The XH2S is also really good but idk. Feel like my head is gonna explode.
Fuji IBIS is still lagging behind competition, so is autofocus. if you like small factor and colors go for the Fuji XS20@@Smorfar
I really really hope the G9 II will be a success for Panasonic. I don’t use MFT anymore, but i always liked it.
Both the A6700 and the G9 II are impressive hybrid cameras for their price if you want reach and good to great 120fps
6700 overheating issues are a big deal if you're on the video end imo. I think it's a strong choice for longer reach photography though.
I got the a6700 and pretty happy with it. Everything is a compromise if you want a hybrid. Was thinking zv-e1 but it overheats even worse than a6700 and resolution too low for photos. a7cii/a7iv are pretty good but no 4k/120. My only issue is aps-c isn’t as strong in low light but I guess I will live with it. Also lens cost was a factor because I don’t have an infinite budget.
g9 ii dead on arrival nobody doing MFT anymore for a reason. Its 2023 the time of full frame or riot
@@frostgodx don't say that, though a minority there are many Macro pros out there capturing incredible images on MFT due to the greater depth of field.
Having Sonys cameras just bought Fujixs20 few days ago! It;s great !
What about Sony 6700 / fx30?
I really love the colours of the Fuji! Damn Sony come on!
7:02 a crazy squirrel wanted some screen time
Good luck walking under those Monsanto clouds! Thanks for the tips.
Man the noise look very weird.... are you seeing it ? Its like it make something to the gamma too, what were the setting please ?
I add film grain to all my videos for the last 6 months. Never pay attention to noise here, because I add it lol.
@@cameraconspiraciesI think on this one you did it wrong because it is really better on others video it look not right
I always enjoy your slowmo bro
Are you sure you are not related to Federico Fellini.? Your background music sounds exactly like music he would have in his movies.
Fuji will always have a place. In our hearts.
How about for photography? A7CII or the R8? I love Canon's ergonomics.
I preferred the Canon's ergo too, but even the A7C's IBIS is better than no IBIS. I shoot indoors at 1/30th often enough. Not to mention some really nice f2.8 zoom options from Tamron for the Sony. Then you have the Samyang, Sigma, and Sony primes. The A7CII should be that much better with AI focusing and more mp's. If you should get second Canon body, the power button and layout aren't going to match. Dual card slots is a benefit for any critical work too. I even prefer micro-SD cards so I can trickle them down to other devices. Or share them in pinch on vacation.
Why did you not include the Sony 6700 in this video? Great autofucus and light.
I was focused more on the light weight full frame options from them, seems silly to get aps-c when their full frame cameras are the same weight.
Absolutely lol'd at the part where Kasey tried (and instantly failed) to track a flying pigeon and then casually panned over to a smiley bag as though that was the target all along. Never mind that not a damn thing is in focus the entire shot XD
But seriously glad to see you using the R8! I hope you do a full review of it actually. Very few people dig out all the little idiosyncrasies of new cameras like you.
Just as planned :)
ZVE1 was reduced in Uk by over £400 for about a week (now gone back up, no idea why) so I picked one up. It is a fantastic camera, image quality is amazing and the low light. Loving it so far.
BILD
Great video! I really want an x-s20 but the price is disappointingly high. If I had that sort of money I’d be tempted to go full frame eg Canon R8. I’m hoping for a price crash though to get the x-s20 for half the money - I can’t understand who’d keep buying aps-c cameras now that full frame prices are coming down.
Glass that is just as fast but half the weight. Bodies that are generally 20% lighter. And you get full features at $1800-2500 vs full frame full features $3500-4000
they also have cheaper and lighter lenses at any given quality level.
THATS The $100 extra kit lens? Man I can’t wait to get my hands on the XS20
This is a terrible lens get the 16-55 instead if you want decent kit
G9ii?
7:41?!! "Talking to your friend" ??? Well... this is big news! Congrats! No longer friendless! I knew you could do it Stan Frecklesworth.
The closest competitor for the XS20 is the A6700, compare it when you can, Nice video as always👍🏼
I love my a6700. Great all around camera.
@@boomergrown Nice to know, I'm currently considering either going with the Sony or Xs20...it's basically great AF vs great colors..Tough one.
@@rockazz82in the same boat! I'm leaning towards the Fuji since the price is lower. I'm coming from Nikon D750 so assuming the AF on the Fuji will blow me away, even though it might be worse than Sony.
Good colors are there ALL the time…. so that advantage lasts in more situations…
@@Viewtolove Except if you decide to start shooting RAW or dip in to the color grading.
at 07:03 there was a wildlife shot of millenium with fuji magic!
Im using X-S20 paired with TTArtisan 35mm for 6 mos already. It's the one I can afford, but I love the camera. Its gives me joy shooting😊
Don't know where you live, but here in Switzerland between the sony a7cii and the ZVE1 there are 400 usd of difference. Then the a7cii makes sense.
Hiii may i ask whats the song in the video??
vegetablepolice.bandcamp.com/track/walking-backwards
Does anyone care about anything now other than the GH9miv?
Wait, are you barefoot? Every time I hear "..or maybe in a spiral..' it makes me laugh. Through your 240 footage I just learned that yellow jackets sniff each other's butts just like dogs! "Look at it and weep.." :-) We X-T3 folks don't have Nostalgic Neg, but we do have Classic Neg. I think they're fairly close. And, probably can tweak Classic Neg to get it. Well, that footage looked pretty nice. I still don't think I'd go from my X-T3 to an X-S20 . It is tempting to have the increased battery life and better AF though. But, the main reason is that I want to save my pennies for the 50-140 for photography....sorry, I used that forbidden term! LOL! Nicely done overview/review. Have a great day!
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That's what you do best! Outside testing expensive stuff🎉
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I have the a7iv for wildlife and a7c for travel but you convinced me to get a Fuji XT-4 and I’m glad I did. It’s the most fun camera to use of all of them. However, I still like the Canon color science the best.
How do you choose what camera to take? I have an A1, but thought about getting and OM-1 just for macro photography, but I fear I will be crippled by indecision.
@@taylorhickman84 I had buyers regret over the a7c. I use that for video now since I don’t care too much about the quality- I am just making some RUclips videos. When I travel I take the XT-4, I love the effortless aspect of it- it just takes great stills. But if I’m traveling and want video, I’ll take the a7c. I keep the big 200-600mm on the a7iv for birds. I try to use all the cameras. If I stop using one, I’m going to sell it!
Love the counterweight of the gh6 and carry the load is oké for the biceps 🎉
lol, the zve1 which I have is only 14mp. Are you seriously saying it’s the same as the a7cii oh dear. Going to spend more than 2k on a 14mp lemon? Sure for video it’s fine but for photos it’s really not great.
13:56 Really like the colorful pop here on the Canon R8.
Just crank the contrast and saturation and any camera will look like that
Canon R8 with 85 RF, 24-70 EF, 100-400 EF. Enjoy!
It blows my mind that the zv-e1 can track vehicles but the Fx3 the A7sIII and even the fx30 cannot. I know the firmware cliché of Sony but I really don't get why the Fx30 or Fx3 don't have vehicle detect given they're *cinematic* cameras while the ZV-E1 is just a vlogging camera
I think the A7CII is a mini A1, i use both, The a1 is faster bigger more megapixels. But in practise they are very much a like.
I like the small size and weight of the C2, i like the speed and ergonomics of the A1 which is 3 times more expensive.
I really don`t get the comments this video gives about the A7CII, it`s not boring, it`s a photographers dream. That`s probably the issue.
Canon r7 vs fuji xs20 vs sony a6700.. which one wins.
I don't care about Canon or Sony aps-c, they are afterthoughts to their full frame lineup.
The answer is: Sony A6700 😉
I want that cut on vinyl
33 Mpixels vs 12 Mpixels. It’s not always about video unless that is the only mode you can comprehend (understand). Open up your view.
Also cameras without stabilization like the R8 again are non-starters for stills in the modern era..
yeaah... on this channel, it's ALWAYS about the video. Don't even mention the P-word (which rhymes with grapher) 🤪
I was the 500th like on this video (where's my prize?). Also, I really wanted to see the 240fps ketchup bottle squirt.
Fuji with a good glass can make wings , canon is good full frame 3d pop
Sold my a7siii and a7iv for the zve1 and a7cii (pre-ordered). Zve1 overheating is, to a large extent, a myth. Autofocus on both is unmatched. These two will probably become two of the most popular full frame cameras for the foreseeable future.
I upgraded from the A7iii to the A1 a year ago, and at times I find myself missing the a7iii or wishing I had got the A7iv
A bad EVF is better than none. And for photography 33 mp is much better than 12.😅
Squirrel crossing at 07:03!!!
I'm surprised to say this but I'm not a big fan of Fuji color these days. 😶
4:16 - Excellent table. Except Fuji crops are out of 1.5x APSC sensor, so it equates to 4K60 - 1.77x crop and HD240 - 1.94x crop of full frame equivalent. That's micro4loser territory.
Also 7:12 ZV-E1 has no viewfinder - what you're on about dreamer?? 🤪
Holy hell, double ad hit me 5 seconds in.
should have tested Fuji with the 18-55 2. OIS.
I've already tested with the XT4, this lens sounded more fun being so light and wider. 18-55mm is the way to go though, you're right.
@@cameraconspiraciesgo with samyang 12 f2 AF but you'll lose all the Fuji magic
@@cameraconspiracies true
10:00 is that a new song? I like it.
no, that's a classic
ZV-E1 suffers with overheating even at 4k@24. (probably because of its plastic body).
Sony A6700 would be my option. Good stabe. lower price. Whats not to like? Loved the music by the way.
The A7C II is so weird. Like the A7C was at least cheap nowadays. It was €1500, so in Fuji XS20/XT5 range. But now north of 2k for this thing, nah lol
What should I get instead for super sharp video I have the a7iv I wanna return it still in box and get A7c ii
@@PuReXtremeGaming If you like Sony and want a smaller full frame cam just get it. I'm just saying from the perspective of someone deciding between APSC or full frame, this one is just way more expensive than almost any APSC, so it's out of the budget area, the first A7C was not out of that area. I guess A7C II is a very good camera if you can afford it.
@@drchtct thanks mate, I'm open to other camera options if you think there's better for the price/ cheaper
I'm new to the space ans just went with Sony coz it's there in store lol
But yeah haven't opened the a7iv yet
Did anyone notice the squirrel at min 7:03 ?
What happens with Nikon? 😢😢😢😢
I don't have $4000usd to buy the Z8 and the entry level and midrange seems stagnated, Nikon haven't any APSC to compete with Fuji or any entry level FF like the Canon R8
I'm thinking about selling my Z50 and go to other system with better entry level and mid range offers, like Fuji or Canon. Even the plastic cheapo Canon APSC seems better than Nikon ones now
Chill out. No system has better mid-priced glass than Nikon (f1.8 lenses). And the lower price tier (40mm, 28mm pseudo pancake) are light weight and affordable (if not unique). Nikon will deliver an excellent Z6 III if you can calm down and go on with your photography for a few months.
As always, entertaining review. ;-) The A7C II does have much more MP for photos. The ZV-E1 with better rolling shutter performance seems to be more suited for video, whereas the A7C II may be more of a photographer's camera. The problem is of course, once you got quite a lot E-mount lenses you're pretty much stuck with Sony (same with Canon and any other brand).
I agree its not always about video capabilities for everyone most folks still buy for photography. A serious guy can start with any of these today but eventually is going to graduate to more professional cameras in the range to 4k to 6k
Why not the bare feet. You’d fit right in Vegas as a full time resident. Well done.
Use of ‘zed’ would be allowed.
5:30 Useful color-coded summary.
Put some shoes on ya hobo! Seriously loving the street videography and backing audio ❤
The R8 is full frame and the only one with full frame 4K, and it's the cheapest by far! Canon ftw.
I was interested in the X-S20 until I saw the footage