As a non-professional photographer, I did regret picking up the A7Cii. For the price of the body and the the tamron 28-200 f2.8-5.6 lens I have, I could've gotten an A6700 with the tamron 17-70 f2.8 plus either 3 sigma f1.4 primes, or a viltrox pro f1.2 and a sigma f1.4
Very helpful comparison. Summary for my use: a6700 for general use, a7IV (hopefully soon A7V) for client/event/wedding. With the full-frame, I get about one stop better noise and about one stop of extra aperture (shallower depth of field) which allows for the f/2.8 zooms to be a bit more useful, plus dual card slots. However, it's all bigger, heavier, and more expensive. For general use, I prefer the size, weight, and cost of the a6700 -- the performance is incredible, especially the autofocus and dynamic range. Fast primes like the Sigma 56 f/1.4 or Viltrox 27 f/1.2 produce incredible images, even in low light. I don't want to risk my expensive client-focused gear for personal use and the difference in quality is negligible. For travel especially, I prefer to get more in-focus so something like the tiny Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 works a treat. Dynamic range is on-par with many full-frame cameras, mostly older ones but even some new ones that have traded off DR for sensor readout (such as the Z6iii). So for me, it's about perfect and works as a backup or second camera for client work, too. I just wish it had the a7RV tilt+flippy mechanism. And a second card slot, even a micro SD for jpegs or something. I hope Sony comes out with the a7V soon because the lack of 4k60 without crop and AI autofocus are missed. I also find the photo colour science of the a6700 and aCII to be quite a bit improved over the a7IV so I'm hopeful that gets updated as well.
I went with Sony a6700 with Sony 16-55 2.8 G and 70-350 G that will give me a range of 24mm to 500+ and a total weight of only 1600 gram. The weight is important to me. Its coming next Week and cant wait. It will be a large upgrade to my current Sony A77.
@@HeadphoneChamps I love it, no regrets! Offcourse I went from a Sony A77 to the A6700 so a larger upgrade compared to moving from the 6400. The only issue I had was where to put my pinky due to the smaller camerabody, but I solved that with a smallrig baseplate. Else everything is an upgrade and the only limiting factor for my photos is me, the guy behind the camera :)
Here in the Philippines, I find the compactness a significant advantage. The public places here are a bit allergic to professional looking cameras (typically large bodies and evfs are in the middle). Thus I remember being called out and asked for a permit using an a7IV, even for the sake of photoshooting my family lunch and not even commercial purpose. They keep implying that the place holds the right to ask permit and deny the use of pro cameras for privacy reasons. Now, I borrowed an a7c from a friend and been to almost all public places shooting random strangers and places without ever being approached by security. Well I guess for the disadvantage of ergonomics, I'll go for compact this time (a7cii / a7cr) for that reason alone of not dealing with any weird prohibitions while retaining the power of full frames.
That’s why now for travel I use X100Vi, and an X100V before that. Ironically, when I use the Little X100Vi, people don’t cover their faces or get mad, instead they smile or give me a peace sign. In Europe, I get the mean eye even using my phone camera, but not the little silver camera. Weird but it’s what happens. I think people think I’m some eccentric harmless weird guy using an old film camera. Little do they know they are only half right. 😂
Love your comparison. Appreciate the thoughts and effort you have put into this. I have commented in one of your video about this before and my response is still the same. A6700 is more than enough for most people. Don't get caught up in the "Go FF or go home". It is not at all necessary for most people who are not making a living out of camera but this does not mean it can't do professional work though...it is more than capable. If you do not shoot on both sensors and do a comparison like this then nobody is going to be able to tell if the picture is shot on which sensor size. (provided that good lenses are used).
I've done a lot of professional work with a cropped sensor which was the Sony A6500, it get's the job done. And now upgrading to the A6700, I can see a massive difference. Both in terms of photos and videos!
@@medianikophotography No surprise. I shot a few events with other photographers who use FF and all the expensive lenses. I showed them my work if they know the photos were shot using FF or APSC..... The best guy got around 60% right while the rest got them right less than 50% of the time. Some of them even believe I used A7cii as I got 3M protective skin on my A6700 after they have seen my pictures.
I bought both - returned the A6700, kept the A7Cii and recently bought a SECOND one! What gets lost in this review is the real world usability between the two cameras. The A6700 only provides 3 command wheels, while the A7Cii has 4. For people that like to assign Exposure Compensation to one of them, the A7Cii is the better option because it allows you to retain the 3 other parameters (ISO, Tv, Av). Another feature that is found in the A7Cii and not the A6700 is Flexible Exposure Mode. For anyone that shoots hybrid, this mode is a GAME CHANGER! It allows you to independently control your exposure separate from the stills settings - it essentially disables the mode dial on the top. I also found the EVF and screen to be better on the A7Cii compared to the A6700. Lastly, is the overall build quality - the A6700 feels very cheap in the hand vs. the A7Cii feels solid. Overall, they are both great cameras, but in the end, the A7Cii is well worth the premium compared to the A6700. If you are shooting mostly video, I'd go for the FX30 which is EXCELLENT!
It may be that they prefer the A7C II, but I can't understand it. In my opinion, the A7C ii is a niche camera for those who want to travel with full-frame and compact, who only buy very compact lenses to use them like others use their Leica. But screwing large portrait or telephoto lenses onto it completely ruins the size and weight advantage of the system. And when it comes to real handling advantages, an A7 IV should be considerably easier to use.
A6700 has separate settings for video and stills and also slow mo video though?? Also, 4 wheels would probably be a bigger difference back when the touch screen was unusable, but exposure compensation is super easy to set there and you get a bunch of extra control on the "hidden" exposure / flash screen. Do you use exposure comp a lot in full manual??
@@jeremyg9305 Yes, you can store different settings, but without Flexible Exposure Mode, the camera will behave based on what mode the top dial is in. If I am shooting aperture priority for stills and decide to flip over to video, it would also be in aperture priority mode and I'd have to then move the dial over to M. I'd have to do the same thing when switching back to stills. It's cumbersome. With Flexible Exposure Mode, it essentially disables the mode dial when shooting video. I do not use the touch screen on any of my cameras other than to set focus point so using it for exposure comp is not a realistic solution. I use exposure comp all the time when shooting in Flexible Exposure Mode. I never know which setting I'm going to lock (Av, Tv, ISO) and use the Exposure Comp to dial it in just right. I don't see many people talking about Flexible Exposure Mode - it's such a great feature!!
@@RandumbTech Ohh, yes, that does seem like a reasonable addition. To clarify, that is like being in Manual mode, but being able to lock one setting and have the other in auto? I mean you can always have ISO in auto, so I guess you would be able to have shutter and aperture in auto and have exposure controlled that way - while being in manual mode? Is the gain just not having to flip to those other modes, but you still have to change things to auto? And if you went back to stills, and wanted to control that auto value, you'd still have to change it back to a set value right?
Ironically, this video convinced me that I should get the full-size A7 (probably A7R) rather than anything else. I care about all the features that were better on the full-frame, and didn't care at all about all the others where the APS-C was better. I never shoot video, for example. For me, resolution, dynamic range, and low-light performance (along with not having a crop factor for wide lenses) are more important than the others. So.. Good video! Just took the opposite conclusion for myself :)
I would think about it again. The full-shape solution is hereditarily more expensive, heavier and larger. It has a lowlight advantage of one exposure level, which the denoising programs compensate for without any problems. In the wide angle you can get very far down (15 mm full format equivalence), many professional landscape photographers shoot with APS-c. The dynamic range of full-frame cameras has tended to decline in recent years, APS-c is very close. Full-frame is most important for professional portrait photographers, wedding photographers, concert photographers or deep sky photographers. I wouldn't switch to full-frame because of the advantages mentioned above, but I also like the range advantage with telephoto and the additional depth of field with macro.
I fully agree with your review. I switched from Nikon 750 with good glass and I do not regret it. The Nikon always stayed home because of the weight and size of the set up. Most of the time I went out with my little Sony RX100 III instead. When I decided to go mirrorless, I considered the A7CII because it was full frame but the cost of the camera (and good lenses) made me decide to go back to APSC (I had a Nikon 7100 before). Yes, I miss the low light performance but it's so easy to get rid of the noise these days that I still value more the small size and light weight of my current set up. Now I bring everything in my trips and the RX100 also comes but as a nice back-up.
Keep in mind most users will get 1.4 APSC primes while they will get 1.8 FF primes as they are very similar in size. So when comparing ISO, a6700 has a 2/3 stop advantage which negates any a7c low light advantage. If you want the full ISO advantage you have to put massive 1.4 lenses on your small a7c, completely killing the point of the smaller body. The a7c also has the EFCS which degrades your bokeh quality. Add the huge crop at 4k60, I would say the a6700 is the better camera for everyone, not just non-professionals.
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf not really, say you use the 23mm f1.4 on APSC and the 35mm 1.8 on fullframe, which would be the obvious choice between size and performance, you will still have a 35mm f2.1 image on the a6700 in uncropped 4k60 while you suddenly deal with a 53mm f2.7 on the A7Cii in 4k60, two different worlds. The difference is that on the a6700 you already buy lenses that calculate the crop in. On the a7cii you’d need to buy and carry multiple lenses e.g. a giant 24mm 1.4 to get what the 23mm f1.4 on APSC gets you in 4k60, and a 35mm f1.8 for the uncropped shots in 4k60. If you like 4k60 or a lot of bokeh (because EFCS), don’t get the a7cii
The A7cii has only a half mechanical shutter (EFC). If you use electronic shutter, the A7cii sensor is very slow, you may get deformation even for portrait, see Derrière la caméra's wedding video with the A7iv used in electronic shutter mode. The A6700 sensor is 3 times faster, which reduces this risk.
Thank you. I actually own both of these since I like to travel with two compact cameras. Not sure if I will keep both but really liked your video and would easily recommend it to anyone wanting to make a “which one to buy” decision. Having both available with the same mount is great. Personally I’m really just a stills shooter so I lean towards full frame but the APS-C lenses are nice and small for travel so we will see. Take care.
Great work with your comparisons and tests, you were really detailed with the important stuff without making this video boring or too long, you just earned a new subscriber
REALLY useful information bro, thank you so much i am now in the middle of decision to decide both of this camera. thank you so very much for sharing this information.
I just got the a6700 a few days ago and I really like it. It pairs well with my Sony zve1. I mainly will use it for photos and I like the reach you can get on a apsc camera.
While I agree the fact that a6700 is a great camera especially with the latest ultra cheap yet performing f1.7 and f1.8 lenses from Chinese manufacturers, the f1.2 primes are expensive,large and heavy and yet there are really really good f1.8 budget light primes in full frame world. So then the additional megapixels and more future full frame lenses makes A7c ii very appealing. You can also get the 15mp crop when needed. Better video heat performance in general too. Unless someone needs 4k 120, wild life photography with 70-350, I would like a7c ii a bit more thsn than a6700
These F1.2 APSC lens are tact sharp from F1.2 and it is also not just about DOF. It is the light amount you get too so comparing FF F1.8 to these lenses are not 100% fair. For APSC you also get the options to go light when needed with zoom lenses while on FF your zoom lenses are going to be huge and expensive with no alternative apart from using apsc lens and get less MP from the sensor. All in all, it is what the person wants from the camera and less of the technical details since modern camera these days are good enough for most scenarios anyway so I’d rather get cheaper gears that perform similarly to the much more expensive ones with things I don’t actually need but “want”.
I wish camera companies would make pro level apsc gear. I’m an apsc guy, long wedding days are way more comfortable with lighter glass. I need two card slots and pro level glass, right now, Fuji is just about the only option
The amount of work you have put into making this video is really appreciated! I have the a6700 and I do not regret one bit. Sure its a bit bad in low light but I think I can fix that with faster lens to some extent!
@@tanmaysakpalofficial I appreciate your recognition buddy! Took couple of weeks actually to get everything done so its certainly nice to know this video is helpful and you enjoy your a6700 👌
Hi! Great video. It would be interesring to test low light video in terms if iso and noiae performance with 2 different lenses. Something like viltrox 27mm 1.2 on the a6700 vs 35mm 1.8 on the a7c ii to see if the aperture a the extra stop of light can compensate for the differences in the sensor at various iso range. Thanks
I chose the A7cii because there are no Sony E lenses that I know of that cover the (full-frame) range of 24-70mm below f2.8 for APS-C. I wanted the versatility of using a single lens but felt I was too much of a compromise to low light performance and bokeh using APS-C with f2.8 zoom lens, so that's why I went with full frame equipped with f2.8 zoom.
those are good points , my perspective is a from w8 pov , I myself suffering from tennis elbow and cannot carry huge system . A6700 is perfect and I am sure that AI chip Sony is going to bring in all the goodies they have with A7V.
I agree with you. for professional works with a full frame camera, I still prefer my a7IV. a7CII has better autofocus but a7IV has a decent af as well. For everyday or travel compact camera, I chose a6700 over a7CII. cheaper price, smaller and cheaper lenses. a6700 + Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 is very compact, useful and fun to shoot with. I am also thinking about sigma 56mm 1.4 for my a6700 since many reviewers say that it is one of the best and sharpest lenses for apsc.
As someone who has tested the "holy trinity" of Sigma lenses (16, 30 and 56mm f1.4), I can also join the reviewers list to say that its an amazing, compact, well built and sharp lens. I am sure you will enjoy it!
Great video! Very good research and information. Me personally, I went with the full frame A7CII. I have the full frame A7IV for professional shoots and will definitely use the A7CII for general everyday purposes (street/travel photography, etc). The lightweight A7CII is basically a compact A7IV and with it being a full frame camera, I can swap all my lens effortlessly between the two without any funky adjustments.
@@jeronyoung6185 thanks a lot! Sounds like you have a very solid setup and if you are fully invested in FF lenses already, I guess it doesn’t make too much sense to start buying apsc lenses
I hope you can give me some good advice. I currently own the Sony A7III and am testing the Sony A6700 this week. Many people are recommending that I go for the Sony A7IV. I mainly shoot during the day. If you had to choose, which camera would you go for? Also, just to mention, I already have two lenses: the Sony 85mm f/1.8 and the Sony 70-200mm GM ll
Again? Need to write an angry email to RUclips to have it ignored until the end of times 😅 But I appreciate you watching it anyways (better latter than never).
Budget wise, I’d definitely be more in the range of the A6700. Is the EVF usable? I wear glasses and shoot a lot on sunny days so so I rarely compose on the LCD. I like a viewfinder. Is the A6700 viewfinder pretty good? I’m thinking of switching from Fuji to Sony. I shoot only headshots and portraits.
I think another comparison should be to compare camera + lens setup. A Viltrox 27mm f1.2 cost around $550. It is approximately the same cost to purchase a 40mm f/2.5 which have almost two stops less light at widest aperture, meaning you can compensate your ISO by two stops and thus negating most of the advantages of the a7c ii for which you would pay double
Awesome video man, I’m looking at taking the leap into one of these bodies for a travel, hiking camera and have been on the fence between the 2. Need to be good in the city streets, low light etc but also comfortable heading into the bush for wildlife, landscape and night sky shots. I think you have me considering the a6700 and invest in some lenses with the savings from the a7cii
Great comparison and further proves I don't need to go FF. As a long time APS-C user, have had a6400 since it came out and about to move to a6700, I did think briefly about the a7cII but this has proved to me it isn't worth it. I do mostly car photography and some street photography, no video at all so going FF just isn't a requirement. Plus I already have like 6 lenses which I won't have to change out over time.
Really glad it was helpful. I know there is a temptation and even pressure that you “must” go FF or otherwise you are not for real but in reality for most it doesn’t really matter. Stick with what makes sense for you!
Brother, which camera do you recommend for me in the end? Note that I want a camera to photograph daily life and travel. Do you recommend the Sony A6700 or the Sony A7cii?
Thanks for this very helpful video 👍👍... Q1. Can we make digital zoom on sony a6700 or on a7cii at 120fps or at 240fps for FHD or 4k for batter wildlife telephoto reach to shoot slow-mo? (Any of these combination, after turn on digital zoom in settings) Q2. Can you confirm If we set photo shoot resolution to a lower megapixel resolution from the highest resolution settings available, dose it downsample from the full sensor or it's just skip pixels to make a lower resolution photo?
So I just bought a Sigma 85mm F1.4 DG DN Art for my a6700 to get that 135mm-ish F2 look, and the lens itself weights 625g, bringing the combo to 1154g. I really don't see myself carrying this lens often, or switching to a FF camera (a7C II) and F1.4 lenses entirely, because the weight is putting a strain to my wrist quickly. F2 lenses would be the right choice, but then the advantages compared to APS-C F1.4 lenses are mostly gone. And in case of the 85mm F1.4 on APS-C: I'd need a 135mm F1.8 on FF, which would be dang heavy and expensive... So yes, FF is better, but it makes zero sense, at least for me...
I recently picked up 6700 with both viltrox pro and non pro lenses, 😮 it's a fantastic travel cam with non pros and a treat with. Also I like to shoot some wildlife with the 70-350 alpha lens. It's a simple and nice setup.
Good Review - I have this question as I'm a vlogger that travels around the Caribbean (hot and humid climates) doing videos, does the sony 6700 overheat much as I see a lot of people saying it overheats I was thinking of getting the fx30 because of this reason, can you let me know how stable this is with overheating also I saw there was a firmware update few months ago does this improve the overheating - thanks
I am also very curious - too many people says its a problem, but filming for 3hrs in 35 degree (C) heat here in Portugal with highest bitrate for 45min until my 128GB SD card went full - the camera did NOT overheat. Yes, it was visibly hot and yes, I always set the temp limit to "high" but I never had it shut itself off so curious to hear what others have to say. Im satisfied.
@@TomsJurjaks tbh, now looking at the A6700, this will probably lead to another RUclips research wormhole on spec and lenses, then open up the gear spreadsheet and start looking for the best deal... The A7iv is cheaper in places than the A7Cii which would be a consideration too. Price does play a part also but the old 'buy good, buy once' does apply... 😎
And I will add another rabbit hole to your research - my guess why A7IV is now cheaper is because the A7V will come out either end of this or beginning of new year lol I have the A7IV and I love it, but A7CII and A6700 are actually more advanced in a lot of aspects so I am definitely jumping on A7V as my main camera for next 3 years at least when it comes out.
@@TomsJurjaks It could be a case of good glass now, affordable body for a while, then the upgrade. I'm only doing YT vids with my current setup (m50 mk1 + ACE Pro), however I want to do client work and expand my earning ability (corp headshots, promos, maybe property). Its a level up like the A7iv to A7v just not quite at the same scale or budget. 🤓
What would be the best lenses for the A6700? I mean the absolute best. Does it make sense to go with a FF lens , say Sony 24-70 on the a6700 ? Also what is the best lens for portraits on an A6700. Thanks 😊
For primes, I think the Viltrox 27mm f1.2 PRO and Viltrox 75mm f1.2 PRO takes the main prize. I have never seen a better, sharper, feature-rich lens for APSC. For zooms, not so one sided. You can of course use the FF, but you pay its price (also the size). I am using Tamron 17-70 f2.8 and previously used Sigma 18-50mm f2.8. Both are incredible lenses and love them equally, but I am not 100% they are the absolute best because probably FF lenses, especially GM would beat them.
Re ISO comparison (800 for 6700 and 1600 for 7C2): now when you are interested in same depth of field, and in turn, are forced to use one f stop smaller iris.. there‘s your advantage gone. Right?
fuck! spent hours researching and tossing up between the a7CII and fuji xt-5. thought I had my heart and mind set on the a7CII before I stumbled upon your video brother! well played!!!
I'm really confused between R8 and a6700, since they're coming out at the same price rn.;_; I'm more of a videographer but I occasionally take photos too. Please, suggest me one;_;
I think the problem with APS-C is that you really need fast aperture lenses to keep ISO low. 1600 is the highest I would go, personally 1000 would be the point I wouldn't want to go over. On my first camera, Canon's M50 II, ISO performance was really not great. I upgraded to an A7 II FF about a year later and it was quite a substantial difference, even though this camera is about 10 years old. On the other hand, APS-C gear is a lot more expensive. The Viltrox 27/1.2 is about 600€ in my region which is significantly less than any 1.2 lens for Sony FF. If you're doing mainly nature shots, you will nevertheless value the advantage of more MP (be it 33 or in my case 42 with the 7R III). Video however will for sure be easier to handle with the 6700 because Sony's stabilization for FF isn't really amazing as soon as you start to move the camera while shooting video.
The noise issue should be a lot less relevant these days though with Topaz or LR. I am comfortable with the ISO up to 5000 these days a few clicks just fix that cleanly.
My old camera was a canon 50d, I have about 40,000 pictures through that camera, and about 60,000 pictures through the canon XSi. I am still watching the video, but iso 6400 on the 6700 is about the same noise level as iso 200 on those older apsc cameras.
I do not understand why Sony cameras are unable to go beyond a maximum shutter speed of 1/8000. For reference, the Fujifilm cameras that I use commercially go up to a ridiculous 1/180.000s. This omission is practically relevant as it is quite common to require shutter speeds of 1/8000 and beyond, especially on bright lenses, not to mention when shooting backlit portraits. Sony cameras are such fantastic workhorses, yet there are such unexplainable shortcomings that could probably even be fixed in firmware.
100% agree. And the fact that the screen (touchscreen) goes blank whenever you add an external monitor through HDMI is another one up there with the shutter speed 🙄
I want to buy a camera for Church photography and videography. Thank God, I could afford to buy both if I see that it is worth the investment. I don't know which of the two to buy. Would you buy the a7c, the 6700 or both?
Assuming that its always a bit dim in churches (its indoors), I would probably lean towards A7CII then as it will have a better low light performance. If you don't mind the noise, A6700 will be good enough. Just remember to take a look at the lenses before you buy the camera, because you will most likely need a faster prime lens.
On your demonstration of the IBIS the Autofocus on the A7C2 was definitely hunting and was less sharp than the 6700 This is my experience of the A7C2 Not at all keen on it.With a Sony Gmaster 1.4 24mm
@@howardhdavidson yeah I was actually quite surprised too when looking back at the footage. Didn’t really notice when I was filming but bringing it on the big screen i was like “hot damn”
Great work and very detailed comparison, totally worth the effort! Both cameras are great choices, I eventually went for the A7C II mostly for the low light performance for my youtube videos and I am extremely happy with its performance! My 2 cents, the larger and heavier lenses of a FF camera can be annoying (and tiring to carry them) especially when you are travelling/hiking for longer periods of time, so consider that factor before you choose between any crop or FF camera...
@@HueNarcisWorld some 32°C in the shade. Thats about 90 F. But we were filming in the sun and south of Portugal is no joke in the summer - the sun is extremely strong
It would be more like 1,5 stop difference in the ISO game. You should compare the photos at the same magnification. I mean you should compensate for the difference in the resolution.
point to be noted a7cii have a kind of fake shutter sound just put hands on speaker of a7cii and listen shutter sound and there is no option to turn this off
Its definitely a good investment, but please keep in mind you will also need to get lenses (if you dont already have a collection) and the price difference between apsc and ff lenses is also about 30% (not considering the size and weight). If that doesn't matter to you then A7CiI will be a great choice for sure. Also gives you even more room to grow and use it in more scenarios.
the comparison of their lowlight performances would have been more accurate if you had kept the shutter speed and aperture exactly the same for both of them in each of the photos used...
never regret after pick up A6700
The a6700 is a beast of a camera
I have 6700 and plan to get a7c2. Why not both 😊
@@jhdgtyhaja I have the a6700 and ZVE1. Perfect duo
ordered the same ..btw what lens do you prefer for the a6700 ?
As a non-professional photographer, I did regret picking up the A7Cii. For the price of the body and the the tamron 28-200 f2.8-5.6 lens I have, I could've gotten an A6700 with the tamron 17-70 f2.8 plus either 3 sigma f1.4 primes, or a viltrox pro f1.2 and a sigma f1.4
Very helpful comparison. Summary for my use: a6700 for general use, a7IV (hopefully soon A7V) for client/event/wedding. With the full-frame, I get about one stop better noise and about one stop of extra aperture (shallower depth of field) which allows for the f/2.8 zooms to be a bit more useful, plus dual card slots. However, it's all bigger, heavier, and more expensive. For general use, I prefer the size, weight, and cost of the a6700 -- the performance is incredible, especially the autofocus and dynamic range. Fast primes like the Sigma 56 f/1.4 or Viltrox 27 f/1.2 produce incredible images, even in low light. I don't want to risk my expensive client-focused gear for personal use and the difference in quality is negligible. For travel especially, I prefer to get more in-focus so something like the tiny Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 works a treat. Dynamic range is on-par with many full-frame cameras, mostly older ones but even some new ones that have traded off DR for sensor readout (such as the Z6iii). So for me, it's about perfect and works as a backup or second camera for client work, too. I just wish it had the a7RV tilt+flippy mechanism. And a second card slot, even a micro SD for jpegs or something.
I hope Sony comes out with the a7V soon because the lack of 4k60 without crop and AI autofocus are missed. I also find the photo colour science of the a6700 and aCII to be quite a bit improved over the a7IV so I'm hopeful that gets updated as well.
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I went with Sony a6700 with Sony 16-55 2.8 G and 70-350 G that will give me a range of 24mm to 500+ and a total weight of only 1600 gram. The weight is important to me. Its coming next Week and cant wait. It will be a large upgrade to my current Sony A77.
How are you enjoying it? I have the a6400 and want to upgrade to a6700
@@HeadphoneChamps I love it, no regrets! Offcourse I went from a Sony A77 to the A6700 so a larger upgrade compared to moving from the 6400. The only issue I had was where to put my pinky due to the smaller camerabody, but I solved that with a smallrig baseplate. Else everything is an upgrade and the only limiting factor for my photos is me, the guy behind the camera :)
The 16-55 is one of my favorite lenses of any camera. It's noticeably better than the Sigma and Tamron.
Here in the Philippines, I find the compactness a significant advantage. The public places here are a bit allergic to professional looking cameras (typically large bodies and evfs are in the middle). Thus I remember being called out and asked for a permit using an a7IV, even for the sake of photoshooting my family lunch and not even commercial purpose. They keep implying that the place holds the right to ask permit and deny the use of pro cameras for privacy reasons.
Now, I borrowed an a7c from a friend and been to almost all public places shooting random strangers and places without ever being approached by security.
Well I guess for the disadvantage of ergonomics, I'll go for compact this time (a7cii / a7cr) for that reason alone of not dealing with any weird prohibitions while retaining the power of full frames.
That’s why now for travel I use X100Vi, and an X100V before that. Ironically, when I use the Little X100Vi, people don’t cover their faces or get mad, instead they smile or give me a peace sign. In Europe, I get the mean eye even using my phone camera, but not the little silver camera. Weird but it’s what happens. I think people think I’m some eccentric harmless weird guy using an old film camera. Little do they know they are only half right. 😂
A6700 for video-centric hybrid work
A7cii for photo-centric hybrid work
A7IV for pro hybrid work
FX30 for pro video work
ZV-E1 for casual video work
Love your comparison. Appreciate the thoughts and effort you have put into this. I have commented in one of your video about this before and my response is still the same. A6700 is more than enough for most people. Don't get caught up in the "Go FF or go home". It is not at all necessary for most people who are not making a living out of camera but this does not mean it can't do professional work though...it is more than capable. If you do not shoot on both sensors and do a comparison like this then nobody is going to be able to tell if the picture is shot on which sensor size. (provided that good lenses are used).
I've done a lot of professional work with a cropped sensor which was the Sony A6500, it get's the job done. And now upgrading to the A6700, I can see a massive difference. Both in terms of photos and videos!
@@medianikophotography No surprise. I shot a few events with other photographers who use FF and all the expensive lenses. I showed them my work if they know the photos were shot using FF or APSC..... The best guy got around 60% right while the rest got them right less than 50% of the time. Some of them even believe I used A7cii as I got 3M protective skin on my A6700 after they have seen my pictures.
I bought both - returned the A6700, kept the A7Cii and recently bought a SECOND one! What gets lost in this review is the real world usability between the two cameras. The A6700 only provides 3 command wheels, while the A7Cii has 4. For people that like to assign Exposure Compensation to one of them, the A7Cii is the better option because it allows you to retain the 3 other parameters (ISO, Tv, Av). Another feature that is found in the A7Cii and not the A6700 is Flexible Exposure Mode. For anyone that shoots hybrid, this mode is a GAME CHANGER! It allows you to independently control your exposure separate from the stills settings - it essentially disables the mode dial on the top. I also found the EVF and screen to be better on the A7Cii compared to the A6700. Lastly, is the overall build quality - the A6700 feels very cheap in the hand vs. the A7Cii feels solid. Overall, they are both great cameras, but in the end, the A7Cii is well worth the premium compared to the A6700. If you are shooting mostly video, I'd go for the FX30 which is EXCELLENT!
It may be that they prefer the A7C II, but I can't understand it. In my opinion, the A7C ii is a niche camera for those who want to travel with full-frame and compact, who only buy very compact lenses to use them like others use their Leica. But screwing large portrait or telephoto lenses onto it completely ruins the size and weight advantage of the system. And when it comes to real handling advantages, an A7 IV should be considerably easier to use.
A6700 has separate settings for video and stills and also slow mo video though?? Also, 4 wheels would probably be a bigger difference back when the touch screen was unusable, but exposure compensation is super easy to set there and you get a bunch of extra control on the "hidden" exposure / flash screen.
Do you use exposure comp a lot in full manual??
@@jeremyg9305 Yes, you can store different settings, but without Flexible Exposure Mode, the camera will behave based on what mode the top dial is in. If I am shooting aperture priority for stills and decide to flip over to video, it would also be in aperture priority mode and I'd have to then move the dial over to M. I'd have to do the same thing when switching back to stills. It's cumbersome. With Flexible Exposure Mode, it essentially disables the mode dial when shooting video. I do not use the touch screen on any of my cameras other than to set focus point so using it for exposure comp is not a realistic solution. I use exposure comp all the time when shooting in Flexible Exposure Mode. I never know which setting I'm going to lock (Av, Tv, ISO) and use the Exposure Comp to dial it in just right. I don't see many people talking about Flexible Exposure Mode - it's such a great feature!!
@@RandumbTech Ohh, yes, that does seem like a reasonable addition. To clarify, that is like being in Manual mode, but being able to lock one setting and have the other in auto? I mean you can always have ISO in auto, so I guess you would be able to have shutter and aperture in auto and have exposure controlled that way - while being in manual mode?
Is the gain just not having to flip to those other modes, but you still have to change things to auto? And if you went back to stills, and wanted to control that auto value, you'd still have to change it back to a set value right?
The result from these three weeks of effort is a reference, bravo Toms... great work !
So it seems 😅 thanks my friend ✌️
Hey! I appreciate your work! You saved me from buying A7CII!
- From Manila, Philippines :)
I’m using my a6700, and it's a beast. With the 18-35mm f/1.8 and 50-100mm f/1.8 lenses, it achieves a full-frame look.
Can you be more specific about those lenses? What brand, etc.
Ironically, this video convinced me that I should get the full-size A7 (probably A7R) rather than anything else. I care about all the features that were better on the full-frame, and didn't care at all about all the others where the APS-C was better. I never shoot video, for example. For me, resolution, dynamic range, and low-light performance (along with not having a crop factor for wide lenses) are more important than the others.
So.. Good video! Just took the opposite conclusion for myself :)
I would think about it again. The full-shape solution is hereditarily more expensive, heavier and larger. It has a lowlight advantage of one exposure level, which the denoising programs compensate for without any problems. In the wide angle you can get very far down (15 mm full format equivalence), many professional landscape photographers shoot with APS-c. The dynamic range of full-frame cameras has tended to decline in recent years, APS-c is very close. Full-frame is most important for professional portrait photographers, wedding photographers, concert photographers or deep sky photographers. I wouldn't switch to full-frame because of the advantages mentioned above, but I also like the range advantage with telephoto and the additional depth of field with macro.
I fully agree with your review. I switched from Nikon 750 with good glass and I do not regret it. The Nikon always stayed home because of the weight and size of the set up. Most of the time I went out with my little Sony RX100 III instead.
When I decided to go mirrorless, I considered the A7CII because it was full frame but the cost of the camera (and good lenses) made me decide to go back to APSC (I had a Nikon 7100 before). Yes, I miss the low light performance but it's so easy to get rid of the noise these days that I still value more the small size and light weight of my current set up. Now I bring everything in my trips and the RX100 also comes but as a nice back-up.
Keep in mind most users will get 1.4 APSC primes while they will get 1.8 FF primes as they are very similar in size. So when comparing ISO, a6700 has a 2/3 stop advantage which negates any a7c low light advantage. If you want the full ISO advantage you have to put massive 1.4 lenses on your small a7c, completely killing the point of the smaller body. The a7c also has the EFCS which degrades your bokeh quality. Add the huge crop at 4k60, I would say the a6700 is the better camera for everyone, not just non-professionals.
u get similar crop once u put in similar glass as APSC is already cropped
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf not really, say you use the 23mm f1.4 on APSC and the 35mm 1.8 on fullframe, which would be the obvious choice between size and performance, you will still have a 35mm f2.1 image on the a6700 in uncropped 4k60 while you suddenly deal with a 53mm f2.7 on the A7Cii in 4k60, two different worlds. The difference is that on the a6700 you already buy lenses that calculate the crop in. On the a7cii you’d need to buy and carry multiple lenses e.g. a giant 24mm 1.4 to get what the 23mm f1.4 on APSC gets you in 4k60, and a 35mm f1.8 for the uncropped shots in 4k60. If you like 4k60 or a lot of bokeh (because EFCS), don’t get the a7cii
@@drchtct what shall I get?
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf depends on what you want to shoot
Amazing work to put together this video 👏👏👏
The A7cii has only a half mechanical shutter (EFC).
If you use electronic shutter, the A7cii sensor is very slow, you may get deformation even for portrait, see Derrière la caméra's wedding video with the A7iv used in electronic shutter mode. The A6700 sensor is 3 times faster, which reduces this risk.
Buddy all I'm gonna say is that you are my photographic hero! Loved this presentation and agree on all levels
After hearing your arguments I agree. It gives me the freedom to get the shot without a second mortgage
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Thank you. I actually own both of these since I like to travel with two compact cameras. Not sure if I will keep both but really liked your video and would easily recommend it to anyone wanting to make a “which one to buy” decision. Having both available with the same mount is great. Personally I’m really just a stills shooter so I lean towards full frame but the APS-C lenses are nice and small for travel so we will see. Take care.
Great work with your comparisons and tests, you were really detailed with the important stuff without making this video boring or too long, you just earned a new subscriber
@@Juan24898 thank you so much Juan! Your support is much appreciated 🙌
REALLY useful information bro, thank you so much i am now in the middle of decision to decide both of this camera. thank you so very much for sharing this information.
Thank you! Really glad you found this video useful!
I just got the a6700 a few days ago and I really like it. It pairs well with my Sony zve1. I mainly will use it for photos and I like the reach you can get on a apsc camera.
While I agree the fact that a6700 is a great camera especially with the latest ultra cheap yet performing f1.7 and f1.8 lenses from Chinese manufacturers, the f1.2 primes are expensive,large and heavy and yet there are really really good f1.8 budget light primes in full frame world. So then the additional megapixels and more future full frame lenses makes A7c ii very appealing. You can also get the 15mp crop when needed. Better video heat performance in general too. Unless someone needs 4k 120, wild life photography with 70-350, I would like a7c ii a bit more thsn than a6700
These F1.2 APSC lens are tact sharp from F1.2 and it is also not just about DOF. It is the light amount you get too so comparing FF F1.8 to these lenses are not 100% fair. For APSC you also get the options to go light when needed with zoom lenses while on FF your zoom lenses are going to be huge and expensive with no alternative apart from using apsc lens and get less MP from the sensor. All in all, it is what the person wants from the camera and less of the technical details since modern camera these days are good enough for most scenarios anyway so I’d rather get cheaper gears that perform similarly to the much more expensive ones with things I don’t actually need but “want”.
Great rewiew and you said all if the important things in one video
Thanks Adam ✌️
I wish camera companies would make pro level apsc gear. I’m an apsc guy, long wedding days are way more comfortable with lighter glass. I need two card slots and pro level glass, right now, Fuji is just about the only option
@@andrewselbyphotography very fair point. APSC sensor is already good enough to be used in pro settings and a6700 is the best we got so far…
The amount of work you have put into making this video is really appreciated! I have the a6700 and I do not regret one bit. Sure its a bit bad in low light but I think I can fix that with faster lens to some extent!
@@tanmaysakpalofficial I appreciate your recognition buddy! Took couple of weeks actually to get everything done so its certainly nice to know this video is helpful and you enjoy your a6700 👌
Hi! Great video. It would be interesring to test low light video in terms if iso and noiae performance with 2 different lenses. Something like viltrox 27mm 1.2 on the a6700 vs 35mm 1.8 on the a7c ii to see if the aperture a the extra stop of light can compensate for the differences in the sensor at various iso range. Thanks
I chose the A7cii because there are no Sony E lenses that I know of that cover the (full-frame) range of 24-70mm below f2.8 for APS-C. I wanted the versatility of using a single lens but felt I was too much of a compromise to low light performance and bokeh using APS-C with f2.8 zoom lens, so that's why I went with full frame equipped with f2.8 zoom.
those are good points , my perspective is a from w8 pov , I myself suffering from tennis elbow and cannot carry huge system . A6700 is perfect and I am sure that AI chip Sony is going to bring in all the goodies they have with A7V.
Sigma 18-50 f2.8 not good enough?
I agree with you.
for professional works with a full frame camera, I still prefer my a7IV. a7CII has better autofocus but a7IV has a decent af as well. For everyday or travel compact camera, I chose a6700 over a7CII. cheaper price, smaller and cheaper lenses. a6700 + Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 is very compact, useful and fun to shoot with. I am also thinking about sigma 56mm 1.4 for my a6700 since many reviewers say that it is one of the best and sharpest lenses for apsc.
As someone who has tested the "holy trinity" of Sigma lenses (16, 30 and 56mm f1.4), I can also join the reviewers list to say that its an amazing, compact, well built and sharp lens. I am sure you will enjoy it!
Can I get by with the a6700 if I plan on using it professionally? I would like to get a full frame but it's out of my price range.
Great video! Very good research and information. Me personally, I went with the full frame A7CII. I have the full frame A7IV for professional shoots and will definitely use the A7CII for general everyday purposes (street/travel photography, etc). The lightweight A7CII is basically a compact A7IV and with it being a full frame camera, I can swap all my lens effortlessly between the two without any funky adjustments.
@@jeronyoung6185 thanks a lot! Sounds like you have a very solid setup and if you are fully invested in FF lenses already, I guess it doesn’t make too much sense to start buying apsc lenses
Amazing comparison, great video and great cameras reviewed 🎉 riktīgi labs!
I hope you can give me some good advice. I currently own the Sony A7III and am testing the Sony A6700 this week. Many people are recommending that I go for the Sony A7IV. I mainly shoot during the day. If you had to choose, which camera would you go for? Also, just to mention, I already have two lenses: the Sony 85mm f/1.8 and the Sony 70-200mm GM ll
I am printing 12mpx coming out from D700 😅, there is no issues . Dont fall for the megapixel marketing .
Thank you so much for your effort. Great video! Liked and subscribed.
Much appreciated, thank you my friend!
Another awesome video mate, best thing about them I you get straight to the point 😊.
Bit late to watch this one. RUclips decided not to notify me 😢
Again? Need to write an angry email to RUclips to have it ignored until the end of times 😅 But I appreciate you watching it anyways (better latter than never).
Only camera we all need is upcoming DJI mirrorless camera, it will blow everything else out of water. Save your cash for this amazing camera.
a6700 and a7c maybe hard to choice, a7c II is next level
Thank you for the time you put into this!
Great video, great explanations .
Thank you
Budget wise, I’d definitely be more in the range of the A6700. Is the EVF usable? I wear glasses and shoot a lot on sunny days so so I rarely compose on the LCD. I like a viewfinder. Is the A6700 viewfinder pretty good? I’m thinking of switching from Fuji to Sony. I shoot only headshots and portraits.
I think another comparison should be to compare camera + lens setup. A Viltrox 27mm f1.2 cost around $550. It is approximately the same cost to purchase a 40mm f/2.5 which have almost two stops less light at widest aperture, meaning you can compensate your ISO by two stops and thus negating most of the advantages of the a7c ii for which you would pay double
Awesome video man, I’m looking at taking the leap into one of these bodies for a travel, hiking camera and have been on the fence between the 2. Need to be good in the city streets, low light etc but also comfortable heading into the bush for wildlife, landscape and night sky shots. I think you have me considering the a6700 and invest in some lenses with the savings from the a7cii
Whatever you will get - it will be great my friend! Just don't overthink it too much and go for it!
Great comparison and further proves I don't need to go FF. As a long time APS-C user, have had a6400 since it came out and about to move to a6700, I did think briefly about the a7cII but this has proved to me it isn't worth it. I do mostly car photography and some street photography, no video at all so going FF just isn't a requirement. Plus I already have like 6 lenses which I won't have to change out over time.
Really glad it was helpful. I know there is a temptation and even pressure that you “must” go FF or otherwise you are not for real but in reality for most it doesn’t really matter. Stick with what makes sense for you!
Great video and convincing for selecting the a6700 for me
@@tombeard2288 good luck with it! Awesome camera 👌
Brother, which camera do you recommend for me in the end? Note that I want a camera to photograph daily life and travel. Do you recommend the Sony A6700 or the Sony A7cii?
Thank you! really useful video
@@CarimFadil glad to hear that! Cheers!
Here is a thank you thumbs up, and a good job new sub.
Thanks Kavika! Much much appreciated!
apsc f1.2 lenses are a lot heavier than full frame f1.8 equivalents
Thats a very generic statement.
As far I know there are not many 1.2 APS-C lenses for E mount.
Not generic statement, he’s just stating facts
That has more to do with the 1.2 aperture. More companies could make actual apsc lenses instead of equivelants, but they don't.
Thanks for this very helpful video 👍👍...
Q1. Can we make digital zoom on sony a6700 or on a7cii at 120fps or at 240fps for FHD or 4k for batter wildlife telephoto reach to shoot slow-mo? (Any of these combination, after turn on digital zoom in settings)
Q2. Can you confirm If we set photo shoot resolution to a lower megapixel resolution from the highest resolution settings available, dose it downsample from the full sensor or it's just skip pixels to make a lower resolution photo?
08:50 does a7c ii have curtain shutter? That’s would be cool for not having dust inside 😮
@@ehabko5818 yess you can cover the sensor while changing lenses
So I just bought a Sigma 85mm F1.4 DG DN Art for my a6700 to get that 135mm-ish F2 look, and the lens itself weights 625g, bringing the combo to 1154g. I really don't see myself carrying this lens often, or switching to a FF camera (a7C II) and F1.4 lenses entirely, because the weight is putting a strain to my wrist quickly. F2 lenses would be the right choice, but then the advantages compared to APS-C F1.4 lenses are mostly gone. And in case of the 85mm F1.4 on APS-C: I'd need a 135mm F1.8 on FF, which would be dang heavy and expensive... So yes, FF is better, but it makes zero sense, at least for me...
For video in particular Aps-c are smaller. And the lenses are compact. Remember that Alexa cinema cameras are super35 size
I recently picked up 6700 with both viltrox pro and non pro lenses, 😮 it's a fantastic travel cam with non pros and a treat with. Also I like to shoot some wildlife with the 70-350 alpha lens. It's a simple and nice setup.
fantastic job!
Thank you!
Voltron’s pros are such a game changer
Thank you for the research. I have the a6700. I prefer it for wildlife photography as it provides 1.5 times the reach over Full Frame.
But don't the Full Frame cameras have the ability to switch to APSC mode when needed making it more versatile?
@@TravAlligatoryeah but they have significantly lower resolution so the apex would look much better
I bought the a6700. Love it😊 And a lot of “cheaper” lens. 4k 120 is so smooth!
So happy you like it! Hows the 4K120? Not too much noise?
@@TomsJurjaks no problem as long as you have enough light!
Well done mate!
Thanks so much!
Nice work Toms! thank you.
Thank you too!
Good Review - I have this question as I'm a vlogger that travels around the Caribbean (hot and humid climates) doing videos, does the sony 6700 overheat much as I see a lot of people saying it overheats I was thinking of getting the fx30 because of this reason, can you let me know how stable this is with overheating also I saw there was a firmware update few months ago does this improve the overheating - thanks
I am also very curious - too many people says its a problem, but filming for 3hrs in 35 degree (C) heat here in Portugal with highest bitrate for 45min until my 128GB SD card went full - the camera did NOT overheat. Yes, it was visibly hot and yes, I always set the temp limit to "high" but I never had it shut itself off so curious to hear what others have to say. Im satisfied.
Priced up many different Sony options today, didn’t consider A6700, certainly glad I watched this
Right on time! What are you leaning towards in the end?
@@TomsJurjaks tbh, now looking at the A6700, this will probably lead to another RUclips research wormhole on spec and lenses, then open up the gear spreadsheet and start looking for the best deal... The A7iv is cheaper in places than the A7Cii which would be a consideration too. Price does play a part also but the old 'buy good, buy once' does apply... 😎
And I will add another rabbit hole to your research - my guess why A7IV is now cheaper is because the A7V will come out either end of this or beginning of new year lol
I have the A7IV and I love it, but A7CII and A6700 are actually more advanced in a lot of aspects so I am definitely jumping on A7V as my main camera for next 3 years at least when it comes out.
@@TomsJurjaks It could be a case of good glass now, affordable body for a while, then the upgrade. I'm only doing YT vids with my current setup (m50 mk1 + ACE Pro), however I want to do client work and expand my earning ability (corp headshots, promos, maybe property). Its a level up like the A7iv to A7v just not quite at the same scale or budget. 🤓
@@Paul_Greenwood Then I am pretty confident that with good glass and good lighting - any of the 3 options will survive your purpose more than enough 👌
Should i get the A73 its on sale used at my camera store for about 700dollars if i do the conversion rate which gives me money to buy more lenses
What would be the best lenses for the A6700? I mean the absolute best. Does it make sense to go with a FF lens , say Sony 24-70 on the a6700 ? Also what is the best lens for portraits on an A6700.
Thanks 😊
For primes, I think the Viltrox 27mm f1.2 PRO and Viltrox 75mm f1.2 PRO takes the main prize. I have never seen a better, sharper, feature-rich lens for APSC.
For zooms, not so one sided. You can of course use the FF, but you pay its price (also the size). I am using Tamron 17-70 f2.8 and previously used Sigma 18-50mm f2.8. Both are incredible lenses and love them equally, but I am not 100% they are the absolute best because probably FF lenses, especially GM would beat them.
Great video
@@hiteshchand thank you! 🙏
Excellent review.
Thank you so much!
Is it true that the a6700 has a 1.04x crop when shooting in 4k 60 fps?
Re ISO comparison (800 for 6700 and 1600 for 7C2): now when you are interested in same depth of field, and in turn, are forced to use one f stop smaller iris.. there‘s your advantage gone. Right?
I made my decision to buy a6700 after watching this video, thanks 🙏
@@amirheshmati5077 great choice my friend! Good luck with your new camera!
fuck! spent hours researching and tossing up between the a7CII and fuji xt-5. thought I had my heart and mind set on the a7CII before I stumbled upon your video brother! well played!!!
@@j0hnnyl3gend oh noo haha down the rabbit hole! What are you gonna go with then?
A6700 is a baller camera.... I wish it had pixelshift and opengate and it would be perfect.
Wait wait, you live in Australia? Nice! I was born and raised in Melbourne, but moved to Berlin in June this year, haha.
Which setting should I change on the Sony A6700 to shoot 11 frames per second?
Check the video at 5:02 - Under "Drive Mode", you need to select "Continuous Shooting" and "Hi+" - that will give you 11fps burst photos.
I really want to see an APS-C with dual card slots for event usage. I am changing my Fuji XE-3 for the a6700.
Its surprising to see many people saying about dual cards. Sony needs to step up! And welcome to the club when you get your A6700!
I'm really confused between R8 and a6700, since they're coming out at the same price rn.;_; I'm more of a videographer but I occasionally take photos too. Please, suggest me one;_;
I think the problem with APS-C is that you really need fast aperture lenses to keep ISO low. 1600 is the highest I would go, personally 1000 would be the point I wouldn't want to go over.
On my first camera, Canon's M50 II, ISO performance was really not great. I upgraded to an A7 II FF about a year later and it was quite a substantial difference, even though this camera is about 10 years old.
On the other hand, APS-C gear is a lot more expensive. The Viltrox 27/1.2 is about 600€ in my region which is significantly less than any 1.2 lens for Sony FF.
If you're doing mainly nature shots, you will nevertheless value the advantage of more MP (be it 33 or in my case 42 with the 7R III). Video however will for sure be easier to handle with the 6700 because Sony's stabilization for FF isn't really amazing as soon as you start to move the camera while shooting video.
The noise issue should be a lot less relevant these days though with Topaz or LR. I am comfortable with the ISO up to 5000 these days a few clicks just fix that cleanly.
A6700 got double native iso which is 800 and 2500.
My old camera was a canon 50d, I have about 40,000 pictures through that camera, and about 60,000 pictures through the canon XSi. I am still watching the video, but iso 6400 on the 6700 is about the same noise level as iso 200 on those older apsc cameras.
Great video. Thanks
I do not understand why Sony cameras are unable to go beyond a maximum shutter speed of 1/8000. For reference, the Fujifilm cameras that I use commercially go up to a ridiculous 1/180.000s. This omission is practically relevant as it is quite common to require shutter speeds of 1/8000 and beyond, especially on bright lenses, not to mention when shooting backlit portraits. Sony cameras are such fantastic workhorses, yet there are such unexplainable shortcomings that could probably even be fixed in firmware.
100% agree. And the fact that the screen (touchscreen) goes blank whenever you add an external monitor through HDMI is another one up there with the shutter speed 🙄
dont understand why no more people are talking about his obvious flaw
Buddy, people still argue with toppings on the pizza, human isn't ready for this topic 😅
In the end, we're just a painter looking for a brush.
Hahah laughing out load here and true that 😅
I wish the 6700 had a joy/focus stick. Do any Sony ASPC lenses have an aperture ring on the lense?
15mm f1.4 G
I want to buy a camera for Church photography and videography. Thank God, I could afford to buy both if I see that it is worth the investment. I don't know which of the two to buy. Would you buy the a7c, the 6700 or both?
Assuming that its always a bit dim in churches (its indoors), I would probably lean towards A7CII then as it will have a better low light performance. If you don't mind the noise, A6700 will be good enough. Just remember to take a look at the lenses before you buy the camera, because you will most likely need a faster prime lens.
On your demonstration of the IBIS the Autofocus on the A7C2 was definitely hunting and was less sharp than the 6700 This is my experience of the A7C2 Not at all keen on it.With a Sony Gmaster 1.4 24mm
@@howardhdavidson yeah I was actually quite surprised too when looking back at the footage. Didn’t really notice when I was filming but bringing it on the big screen i was like “hot damn”
A6700 for music videos a7s3 a74 for weddings n quincineras . Ya I got 3 cameras😊
i have the a7c2 i wonder if i should sell and get this for basically the same price
A7cii has 33 megapixel full frame
A6700 has 26 megapixel APSC
I think both have similar amount of light received by a pixel. Just my guess.
Looking to get one is these... Upgrade from Sony a6000
In thinking the same. Considering going for a6700. Lmk which one you went for?
@@volcan3223 ac7ii
Great work and very detailed comparison, totally worth the effort! Both cameras are great choices, I eventually went for the A7C II mostly for the low light performance for my youtube videos and I am extremely happy with its performance! My 2 cents, the larger and heavier lenses of a FF camera can be annoying (and tiring to carry them) especially when you are travelling/hiking for longer periods of time, so consider that factor before you choose between any crop or FF camera...
Personally I would purchase a like new used Sony A74.
I do. Aps-c fails in noise, it is so much bigger, just anoying.
thank you very much!
You are very welcome 👍
how "hot" was that summer that you couldn't get the a6700 to overheat ?
@@HueNarcisWorld some 32°C in the shade. Thats about 90 F. But we were filming in the sun and south of Portugal is no joke in the summer - the sun is extremely strong
It would be more like 1,5 stop difference in the ISO game. You should compare the photos at the same magnification. I mean you should compensate for the difference in the resolution.
thanks man!
@@jpsatre cheers
point to be noted
a7cii have a kind of fake shutter sound
just put hands on speaker of a7cii and listen shutter sound
and there is no option to turn this off
At the time of me writing this, the A7Cii is not that much more expensive than the A6700, so getting the former is no brainer ?
Its definitely a good investment, but please keep in mind you will also need to get lenses (if you dont already have a collection) and the price difference between apsc and ff lenses is also about 30% (not considering the size and weight). If that doesn't matter to you then A7CiI will be a great choice for sure. Also gives you even more room to grow and use it in more scenarios.
I love my a6700 but sadly there is no fast tele zoom lens yet
the comparison of their lowlight performances would have been more accurate if you had kept the shutter speed and aperture exactly the same for both of them in each of the photos used...
What a fantastic comparison video. Loving the a6700
I have an A6000, this is my dilemma which of these to get
does the 7 axis in a7c2 help in low shutter speed compare to a6700?
Its 7-stops vs 5-stops. Technically on paper A7CII should be better in stabilizing the images both in photos and videos.