That's a gen 4 eye pipe. Well done Tony, you've been doing your homework. And just to clarify guys....the M3's solenoid is absolutely "rebuildable." Both markers have SMC pilots with the mechanical directional spool being easily accessible and rebuildable. Dye solenoids have always been rebuildable while the older PE MAC units couldn't (easily) be done, but contrary to popular belief they can be. Since the CS1, all PE spools have had the modern SMC units. Reg access - Tony, right again (that's a first). You unscrew the ASA bolts and all regulator components are accessible.
Lightest marker is the tm40, lightest tank is a carbon fiber 48/4500, lightest hopper is virtue, lightest barrel is deadly wind with aluminum freak inserts.
PE takes the cake on anyone with bigger hands. Also, PE takes the cake with reliability to any of the high-end guns. It's like the 98Custom of Tournament guns, May not be the most advance but she will shoot!
Hey Lone Wolf, I hope you see this. Can you guys make a video on the difference between the OG Proflex and the new Proflex? That would be awesome, thanks.
my m3 was a mess, the screws were flimsy and wear very quickly, breaks galore even with eyes on -> leading to zero accuracy. I "downgraded" to a 170r and my life has been so much better.
Wont say one is better than the other. Some pros of the freak kit are that inserts are cheaper, control bore size is longer (8 inch for the XL vs 6.75 for the acculock inserts) and there are more bore sizes available for the freak vs acculock. Acculock inserts lock in so you can't pull them out while using a swab in your barrel, they come with a lifetime 1 time free replacement per insert should it get damaged and they are considerably more durable than the freak inserts. I've heard that freak inserts can sometimes not be true to size. Either will get the job done.
the acculock may be a touch more accurate but its waaaaay louder, everyone knew where i was at on the field and i switched to the freak xl with a deadly wind barrel. Ive added aftermarket o rings as well to my m3+ and now when people shoot it they just talk trash because "its a dye" but actually really like my m3+
the PE marker dose have a little to large grip & rear end the dye looks sleeker wish PE would lose more weight & make the grip little slimmer at the top even larger hands grip narrow thumb areas fine its the bottom length that needs to stay a little larger
Both are nice as hell! I actually have that same model of the DM3+! I have always shot Dye and love them! I would totally shoot either one of these! Do you bonus ball Jake when you play against him? Lol! He is so funny! #ibelieve
Ya, back in "The Day" we just used rocks and dipped them in a can of paint and threw them really fast... Hated those baseball pitcher's curveballers, lol I bet a small cartoon could be drawn over this... Ya safety issue, dont throw rocks at anyone
If you watched Jake's actual review on the M3+ on his channel you will see he actually doesn't like the M3+. He's just a PE hater and won't admit the CS2 is actually better. Yes the CS2 and Geo 4 are better in case you're wondering.
@@axledog7297 people dont want to give the m3+ any credit, throw a freak kit and deadly wind barrel on it and suddenly its its a different beast all together, maybe swap some o rings to bring the pressure down a touch `dwell around 18 and you've got soft shot and accurate shot. Any issues ive had have been because of me messing with something. I'm around 136k balls through mine and I think i've broken less than 5 balls in the barrel.
The screen on the Dye markers are pretty awesome.
That's a gen 4 eye pipe. Well done Tony, you've been doing your homework.
And just to clarify guys....the M3's solenoid is absolutely "rebuildable." Both markers have SMC pilots with the mechanical directional spool being easily accessible and rebuildable. Dye solenoids have always been rebuildable while the older PE MAC units couldn't (easily) be done, but contrary to popular belief they can be. Since the CS1, all PE spools have had the modern SMC units.
Reg access - Tony, right again (that's a first). You unscrew the ASA bolts and all regulator components are accessible.
That means a lot coming from you :D
I'm a planet eclipse cs2 pro fan but both markers are great and these videos are entertaining
FYI, on future videos with the Dye M3+, its operating pressure is 115 psi
My favorite video to date! Thanks!
Both are good. You cannot go wrong either way. Don't feed into the pathetic hype of one company is better then the others.
Nice to see sensible comments like these once in a while
you should do an ABSOLUTE LIGHTEST speedball marker set up: hopper, tank, marker, barrel.
pro trick : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Been using them for watching all kinds of movies lately.
@Wells Memphis Definitely, I've been using Flixzone} for years myself :)
@Wells Memphis Definitely, been watching on flixzone} for years myself :)
Lightest marker is the tm40, lightest tank is a carbon fiber 48/4500, lightest hopper is virtue, lightest barrel is deadly wind with aluminum freak inserts.
I’ll go with a Cs2
M3+ Wins hands Down.
I played my first tournament with a vm-68 and a raptor extreme.
You can fix them both with a hammer and thread tape.
Haven’t seen or owned a VM68 in 25 yrs Memories. Just saying VM68 tells your age :)
@@benjaminelsbury683 I'm 34😅
You can't go wrong with either one. I have a CS1 that shoot great and an M3+ that shoots great.
Own geo 4, and tm40, cant decide if i want the m3+ or dsr+...bc i want a dye gun to round out collection...
I have a Zombie Killer cs2 already but man that M3+ Prism looks FUCKING SICK.
Save your money and buy the Dye or a Geo 4 for if you want a PE marker.
Or buy one used lol. Just saying I’ve seen hundreds of geo 4s for sale already. Not sure if the people are digging them.
"Yeah because both triggers suck you're still going to buy that Infamous trigger at the end of the day." 💀💀💀
Idk my CS2 been through some heavy and crazy shit it still work perfectly and gets the job done
Lone wolf baby!
PE takes the cake on anyone with bigger hands. Also, PE takes the cake with reliability to any of the high-end guns. It's like the 98Custom of Tournament guns, May not be the most advance but she will shoot!
I like watching your videos. You guys get down at lone wolf 🐺.
Fun to watch.
Hey im thinking of going to your field for your field and shop
Daboi0800 YT hi daboi I’m from discord remember me
0:18
Jake saying its available for limited time only.
Me in the yeah 2154: oh guess I’m not going to lone wolf then
Please more m3+ video
Luxe X vs Dye M3+
Hey Lone Wolf, I hope you see this. Can you guys make a video on the difference between the OG Proflex and the new Proflex? That would be awesome, thanks.
Do you think your going to be in-stock of more guns by Christmas? Looking for the emek 100!?
Jake is hilarious. You guys forgot a shooting comparison 😞
Do the gamma core soft tip bolt comparison
my m3 was a mess, the screws were flimsy and wear very quickly, breaks galore even with eyes on -> leading to zero accuracy. I "downgraded" to a 170r and my life has been so much better.
What’s the better barrel kit... the acculock or the freak kit
Neither
Wont say one is better than the other.
Some pros of the freak kit are that inserts are cheaper, control bore size is longer (8 inch for the XL vs 6.75 for the acculock inserts) and there are more bore sizes available for the freak vs acculock.
Acculock inserts lock in so you can't pull them out while using a swab in your barrel, they come with a lifetime 1 time free replacement per insert should it get damaged and they are considerably more durable than the freak inserts. I've heard that freak inserts can sometimes not be true to size. Either will get the job done.
the acculock may be a touch more accurate but its waaaaay louder, everyone knew where i was at on the field and i switched to the freak xl with a deadly wind barrel. Ive added aftermarket o rings as well to my m3+ and now when people shoot it they just talk trash because "its a dye" but actually really like my m3+
Jake youve come along way from the alterboy look but Ive seen the mountain man look done worse ;)
Can I put an etha 2 trigger in my Emek
Dye has parts for every gun they ever made if you send it in to them they will fix any gun!
the PE marker dose have a little to large grip & rear end the dye looks sleeker wish PE would lose more weight & make the grip little slimmer at the top even larger hands grip narrow thumb areas fine its the bottom length that needs to stay a little larger
Houston Heat heat won 2018 and 2019 maybe 2020 too
"Expensive" Barrel Tip, aka Over-Priced Aluminum
I would like to state, in no uncertain terms, that if you have big hands, then dye grip frames SUCK.
The most comfortable gun I've ever held is a 170r
Agree that they rear UL grip on dye guns feels small. That being said I also think the front grip on the gtek170r is too short.
Both are nice as hell! I actually have that same model of the DM3+! I have always shot Dye and love them! I would totally shoot either one of these! Do you bonus ball Jake when you play against him? Lol! He is so funny! #ibelieve
Etha 2 vs gtek 170 R ?
What would be a good beginner paint ball gun for 100
Romannoodles 224 Cronus
@@BeanDip125 thanks
Romannoodles 224 although an emek is by far the best, I would save up
Dsr
Lvl is the third team that use m3+
DSR vs m3+
Jake, I wanna say Heat won the last two world cups, shooting Luxes most likely
The dye is better 😬
Ya, back in "The Day" we just used rocks and dipped them in a can of paint and threw them really fast...
Hated those baseball pitcher's curveballers, lol I bet a small cartoon could be drawn over this...
Ya safety issue, dont throw rocks at anyone
Dye or die
I’ve seen people shoot their eye pipes out
Because they are idiots and shot them while a barrel wasn't on, right!
The eye pipe cannot move if a barrel is in place. If you shoot an eye pipe out, that's on the dumbass pulling the trigger.
love the dye guns, wont buy PE or the dye with all that rubber crap on them.
Lone wolf you should like sponsor my team
I hate the look of the dye guns and wait did you say gama core I thought it was the IV core?
The CS2 is a Gamma Core marker...
not increase it ? you mean decrease?.. jesus
M3+ guy has teenager vibes
cs2 pro hands down wins.
Yall debate like a married couple lol
If you watched Jake's actual review on the M3+ on his channel you will see he actually doesn't like the M3+. He's just a PE hater and won't admit the CS2 is actually better. Yes the CS2 and Geo 4 are better in case you're wondering.
With dye taking home the win at Vegas and gonna take the win at NXL. Dye is for winners.
Get over the dye barrel they all work the same it's a tube
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
It’s not even a competition. Cs2 is way better
I own them both and heavily disagree. They're both very competent.
I will second that I have a cs2 pro and a m3+ and the both good
Oh okay 😒. Both shoot amazing do the what they are intended to do. PE Fangirls are so cute and blind
Own both, just no. Original M3s at release? Yes, absolutely. Current rendition of the M3+ or M3s with updates is every bit as good as the CS2.
@@axledog7297 people dont want to give the m3+ any credit, throw a freak kit and deadly wind barrel on it and suddenly its its a different beast all together, maybe swap some o rings to bring the pressure down a touch `dwell around 18 and you've got soft shot and accurate shot. Any issues ive had have been because of me messing with something. I'm around 136k balls through mine and I think i've broken less than 5 balls in the barrel.