Which Planet Eclipse Gun is Best?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- It’s a question that I get often “What’s the between the CS2 and the 170R”. Both of the Planet Eclipse markers are fantastic, but differ in price wildly, so what is the difference and is the CS2 with the extra $500?
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Let's take a look at which marker is best in these 11 different categories: Accuracy, Shot Quality, Kick, Efficiency, Upgradability, Build Quality, User Friendly, Ergonomics, Features, and Price. Whoever has the most points at the end is the winner.
Some of the categories above are very subjective, and up to personal preference. In those cases, I tried to explain why I best picked another gun over another. Trying to explain why the CS2 or 170R shoots “better” is hard and very subjective, so bear with me on this wild tropical adventure that is paintball guns comparisons.
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Planet eclipse is the best paintball brand by far. Period.
Clorox Bleach planet eclipse is practically the tippmann of speedball. So... shut up you wet flannel
That's debatable.
Yes PE makes nice markers but so to does Dye, Empire, SP, MacDev, Field One.
All these companies make markers that are just as good a PE and a few are somewhat better.
At the end of the day the best marker is what feels the best in your hands, making a biased statement like what you said just proves that ignorance exists in all sports.
Ohh Yeah I agree. But, dye and empire guns are not reliable in any way.
Heck
I had a etha and if I had the choice. I’d rather use that for 1 year than use a m3+ for a month. Just bounces around in my hand and sounds like a desent tippmann. I’m sticking with my cs1 and PE and maybe luxe. There guns are great too.
Now, Looking to get a luxe ice or a cs2 👌🤔
Ohh Yeah
I disagree. I’ve had a collection of guns over the years. Dyes for me have been the most unreliable, yes they are a great marker and when they work they perform well, I’ve had dm3’s all the way up to current models, same with PE guns and many others. I can honestly say some of the older mid range model PE guns I used to play with were absolutely more reliable than the dye markers I’ve played with, even current models. not saying they shot as great, but I never had to question weather it was going to run or not when I got to the field or go do down during the game, etc. PE guns are tanks in my opinion, luxe’s are amazing as well I’ve had tons of luck with them over dye or any other marker I’ve owned. I just find dyes and bob longs and most of the other higher end markers I’ve played with to be over priced and unreliable.
Cody completely agree mate. #Pe for life
Getting back into the sport and this video helped me choose a 170R and a full set up to get back out there and play. Thanks, keep up the good work.
The Etha vs Axe one is the reason why I bought the Etha 2 don't make me do this again. Oh, no, too late the 170 R is coming home
I can relate. I went from the Tippmann Cronus to the Etha 2 and now I’m on the Gtek 170r.
@@kevinhuynh4318 man same thing it's happening to me now...
Tippmann cronus
Planet eclipse Ethan 2
Now I'm going to get my 170 R
@@zick231 Oh, how the cycle is repeating itself o.0
P.S the CS2 is going down in price, so you know what that means...
@@kevinhuynh4318 hahaha I know I know
Love it, I agree. I had a 170R and got a CS2 and it was worth it to me. Both great guns.
I love these comparison types of videos. Please do these more often!!
Have a few planned 👍
Paintball Ruined My Life yes plz do more!
should do between DSR & M3
Peter Stergos id say dsr, can’t spend that much more just for a nice screen and a more tuner friendly option.. what do you guys think? If money wasn’t an option of course the m3 but used vs used? Still the dsr.. I’ve got both and the dsr is just better, just got one off eBay recently for 455$ and I picked up an m3+ for 800 locally in SoCal. What’s the consensus gents?
Lol dsr wins by default. It is the better "paintball gun" so to speak. It shoots and operates like a highend marker basically. a shame that dye arguably put the best modern, robust, "very smooth shooting with some feedback bolt" system(arc bolt.) they have ever made, in a slightly crappier midrange package. It's simply a performance monster. But yet. At the same time you have this beautiful m3s/m3+ that looks and feels amazing. Probably has the most advanced Barrel and electronic screen system on any Paintball marker in existance. But yet it shoots lika a not so good gun for 1500$ dsr costs 900$ for better performance. So that battle was one before it started. However, put the arc bolt in the new m4 that'll come out eventually and holy hell dye would have made unicorn levels of magic happen!! Haha. Lmao
First they need to take out the eye pipe and they would kill
i think it would be helpful if you talked about the electronic controls a little more in your reviews. how do they work, eas of use, etc. Overall great content and super helpful! keep it up!
I love my 160R, but it is a world of difference in terms of feel and ergonomics to the cs1. Similar comparison just from prior generations. Shot both and I loved the cs1, but I don't play enough to get one lol
Planet Eclipse isn't going to charge you $600 more for nothing lol. I've owned the 170R and the CS2 and the CS2 was in my eyes worth the extra money.
You deserve more views I wish the paintball community was just as big as gaming :(
How in the hell gaming has more involvement than paintball just breaks my heart... something is very wrong with the world
antonjeu it doesn’t require any physical effort ... that’s why
A lot more people will need to get off their asses....
@@antonjeu Paintball has suffered over the years because teenagers get into this sport for the wrong reasons, they do as much damage as they can with 15 bps then leave in a few years.
@@antonjeu cant ask people to like a certain thing. I do both personally but you have to think about what new players go through. Going this Saturday and I'll hit every rental I see with my lv1. Fair to them? No. Fair to a 8 year player who has put tons of effort and money into my marker and gear? I think so
Mech frame for CS2 will be an option, soon.
Triggers are not the only upgrade in the 170r... you can also run the CS2 soft tip bolt in the 170r and makes for a softer shot and better for some paint... I own both so I can say that they are just alike minus the price... definitely both reliable markers 💪🏼
True, I should have mentioned that.
CS2 front grip is straight from heaven
I’m about to go from the Etha 2 to CS2 Pro, thanks for all the videos.
I did , I love my etha2 , but when I got the infamous edition of the cs2 pro , it’s been amazing the difference , once in a lifetime buy , either gun will last you forever , hopefully you got one since you posted this message
Get a cs2, but that’s basically a gtek170r, but that’s basically as 160r, but that’s basically a gtek, but that’s basically an etha2. See what I did there
Got an Ego 11 for $140. Formerly a $1,500 gun, now $1,000 new or $500 used. Mine was scratched, nicked, dirty, leaky. Rusted screws. $35 in parts (O-rings, new shiny screws, oil, reg grip to cover scratches) got me a marker with a 3 piece barrel, adjustable clamping feedneck, amazing trigger, POPS asa and an OLED screen. Those are just the features. Its an Ego: the most proven poppet platform, and looks kinda pretty minus the scratches. An absolute steal and knocks any Mini or Axe out of the field for $175. I'm a lucky guy.
Sounds like a great deal!
It’s a question that I get often “What’s the between the CS2 and the 170R”. Both of the Planet Eclipse markers are fantastic, but differ in price wildly, so what is the difference and is the CS2 with the extra $500?
Would really like to see a mechanical trigger frame for the CS2
That would be fun!
I'm currently shopping for a new gun, I'm torn between the 170R the cs2 pro and the luxe tm40. value wise I'm gonna day that 170r is prolly best value and the cs2 may be better than the luxe but they are pretty close to even. this video has helped tho. I think I may get the 170R. thanks!
Never was a fan of the CS2 (had a regular and 2 Infamous). Picked up a 170r and I love it. It's mostly about player preference. Also helps that even though it doesn't do much I have the CS2 soft tip bolt in my 170.
i agree, i had an infamous cs2 and didnt connect with it at all.
I would also say that you can upgrade the 170r barrel to a shaft fl and that's already on the CS2...so that's another upgrade.
Well edited and informative video. I really like this format. Good work!
I've played with both and tbh I think the 170r is better. I like the sound signature better and the ergonomics just feel better in general. Its also 400$ cheaper. I would take the 170r and geo4 over the cs2 personally!
Thank you for your videos and passion with the sport.
You get what you pay for yes. But without a doubt they did an amazing job with the 170
Your reviews and videos are brilliant!
Macdev clone 5s are going for $600 , $400/used ..
Operating psi is 105.....
It's the smart way to go
105 is pretty low.
i prefer my guns to actually work
Mac devs are known to be unreliable
Its actually 100psi
You should update this list since the GEO r5 is about to drop
Is PE going to do anything the Bluetooth?
Ben Greenfield I am waiting for the same thing -__- I got my Cs2 hoping a Bluetooth app would come out.
That would be sick. Imagine tuning the fire modes, and settings on a PE app on your phone through bluetooth?! Or you could do a bunch of data logging on your phone with graphs and charts etc.
I am reallllly considering this 170R.
If you could get it for $600, would you do the deal?
$600 is a good price, go for it.
I upgraded my 170r to an fl carbon barrel kit and the shot was way different,I love my 170
You wasted money. Should have bought better paint. Barrels do nothing. It's been proven
Chad Chesser yeaa but I dig the carbon look so it was jus a preference thing
I’ve owned the 170r and it was great but I’m more of a fan of the cs2 the grips felt way better than the 170r and was way easier to program and stuff I’d recommend both tbh
it’s about accuracy but it’s 100% about the player who is shooting the marker
Dope video keep up the great work
The Gtek 170R at $895 or the Ego LV1.6 at $1069?
You should do magfed guns like mcs 468 ptr vs the Tiberius arms t15
Shot quality should just be a mix of kick, sound and consistency
I was actually thinking of building a machine with load cells, accelerometers and mics to quantify the shot feel or a marker, then create an index with it.
It would take into account overall kick, cycle time, changes in forces, and sound to give the best overall idea of shot quality you can get on a page.
It would be the most effective in comparing a marker you want to buy to one you've already shot.
I’ve owned both guns and the CS2 is dramatically different. It’s more refined in every way. Is it $600 more gun? Probably not. Is it a better gun? Yes. Stop fooling yourself thinking the 170R is the same as a CS2.
if you want to justify your purchase sure. but even in your own comment you said they were "dramatically" different, but i would imagine for 600 there SHOULD be a dramatic difference, but you said it is not 600 dollar different. so which is it? i don't think you are telling the full truth here. i have friends that own 1 or the other or both, and i have also used both in a tournament environment. they are not that different at all. the differences came down more to what barrel you are using and what tank you use as well that affects both weight and shot accuracy. the gun itself not so much, and very few people use the barrel that is included with them. all in all the gun is a 1-200 difference. cant justify spending over 600 for only slight differences.
This was kind of a common sense result. “Will the super high priced marker be better than the marker that’s half the price from the same company?” Duh. You should have used a rating system instead of a straight up this or that system. “Reliability? 8.5 for the 170R, 9.2 for the CS2” as an example, that would really show how close the 170R would be to the CS2.
Either way, thanks for the break down.
I feel like that would be really hard to do without testing everything. Plus, if you really look at it, you spend $150 per point on the CS2, but $160 per point on the 170r. They're actually really close when you do it that way
You know that the soft tip bolt from the cs2 is compatible with the 170R right??
I do.
Thank you !
170r or the m3+ what you think got a good offer on 170r but need to sell m3 if i do
How about the Gtek
Best hopper for cs2? And go!
I really like my cs2.
are they better than the PGP pistol? '84 crew
If I own an etha 2 is it worth buying the 170R?
If you plan on playing with better players then yes
A CS2?? smh, get a brass eagle raptor and it’s also available in dynasty blue for 15$! I rest my case
I am saving up for an Axe 2.0 Is it highly worth saving the dollars to buy the 170R or is the Axe 2.0 still competitive?
I own both. I like the way the 170 feels in my hand so that’s what I use. Axe 2.0 is definitely still competitive. I recommend holding and shooting both to see how the markers feel in your hands.
honestly you might end up selling your axe anyway. they’re great shooters but i would highly recommend saving for a 170r. it’ll love you forever and you’ll appreciate it for the absolutely work horse it is and it seems that it might keep its value if you wanna go the extra step for a used cs2
I have both and Both a great guns the 170R is a better gun imo but I love the way the 2.0 feels Can’t go wrong with either go with what feels best.
You'll be happy you bought the Axe for about a week and then wish you bought a PE gun.
how different is the lv2 from the old school egos
The CS2 is apex of paintball marker's & I'm sure from the ground up they designed it to not cut any corners. For once the engineers could use the materials THEY actually want to use & have the most pride in.... Alot sports cars are like this the ford GT // dodge viper they really don't make alot money. Its more of halo product or a 4 wheeled advertisement. Even with the CS2 I bet you might be surprised how much it cost them to make it after you add the engineering time. Materials are not the bottom line like people think
The 170r is by far a better gun that what they price it to be honestly, you just can’t beat that gun for the money in my opinion. I would buy 2 of these as opposed to buying just one CS gun, and have a back up gun or a gun for a friend to play with to get a friend into the sport or etc.
Or you could buy four Etha 2's 😃
Paintball Ruined My Life or an entire crate full of ions 😂
Paintball Ruined My Life hey man you should do a video on the MacDev Clone 5 if you ever get your hands on one! I hear it’s a pretty insane marker for the money but there isn’t really any good review videos on it and you do some of the best marker reviews on RUclips 👍🏻
It’s hilarious they sell an “upgrade” to make your electric gun mechanical 😆 People would give their left arm for an electro gun back in the day
"They both are very nice guns, so therefore the CS2 wins", This video summed up
the CS2 got a mech frame now.
Can you please do a does it suck? Tippmann gryphon?
Probably not. I don't do those videos. I think that's another channel.
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife then maybe a review? (feel dumb for getting your channel mixed up with another one)
Would it be worth it too but the new cs2 barrel for my 160r ?
I keep asking myself this question also for my etha 2, I bought a barrel back to accept inserts but I like the fl barrel
@@jamesboxold9671 yeah , I heard the FL is loud when running it on the Gtek. I think I’ll stick with my shaft not really much of a difference besides the carbon fiber.
Paintball is too expensive for that average person that can just get a 20-70 dollar game and play that for months. 1 day to go paint balling with a rental and full box of paint is around $150
You should do the same with luxe x and cs2!
ruclips.net/video/xekKEuigh-A/видео.html 😃
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife thank you so much
Or or... hear me out, buy a geo 3.5 for like $600
Way older gun that's guaranteed to probably have been used very hard for years with the older bolt and just older parts in general? Is the 170r not objectively better?
Probably the 3.5.
Yeah i did that and had two solenoids start leaking on me 🤷🏼♂️
@@getsmokedgaming7420 That's what I'm saying, obviously getting an older gun isn't bad but it's just an entire possibility of other problems. In this case, it also doesn't make sense cuz the 170r is probably better than the 3.5
Jan Carlos Blanco maybe but i have a CS2 and i still find myself shooting my 3.5s
I saw the cs2 I’m not impressed with it the 170r is better
All you did was sell me on both 👍 already own the destiny pheonix though so guess I'm orderin a new 170R next!
im gonna cave into a 170r myself lol havent heard 1 person complain about it
qejee get a 170r it’s just overall better pretty much same thing for less
Do DSR and 170R
Id pick the 170R, but also really still like the DSR.
Question has nothing to do with this video what do you think of the Empire Vanquish 2.0
I like the Vanquish, I don't think its bad. I feel like the design in 8 years old though, and other companies like PE have kept innovating, and the Vanquish just seems outdated. I personally would rather have the 170R.
Wondering why your luxe X kicks more than your friend’s cs2? (WEIGHT)
Not sure I don't own a Luxe X, weight can contribute to kick though.
Paintball Ruined My Life General statement ;p
I have both and it’s the only conclusion I can come up with 🥳 the X is relatively smoother shooting but has a bit more kick.
Honestly though if my cs2 is in my gear bag; My X sits in the bag as a loaner 🤣 PE FOREVER
Ahh lol.
Lots has to do with kick so it is hard to point to one single thing. Tank weight, barrel weight, pressure, velocity, bolt weight,...lot of stuff.
There is absolutely no difference between them. They both shoot exactly the same
Wrong.
🤔
Luxe makes nice markers also
they shoot like shit ha
@@vercillies6606 and they are loud as f, and break down easy and hard to fix.
170r for dayas
Is the 170r worth buying over a used 160r
Worth is almost always based on what value you place on differences in paintball items and how much money you have (i.e. to a very rich person it doesn't take a big difference to justify spend an extra $500 or $1,000 but a broke college kid it needs to be a big difference). With that said, the engine in a 170r and 160r is the same so while the 170r has some upgrades the basic basic basic function are the same/very close.
You can’t go wrong with either one. I own both and loved both. 160r goes for around 400 used. This is a steal for this marker. I would go with the 160 and use the extra money to play paintball.
I didn’t think so. Plus I preferred the 160r looks.
Well since there are two PE guns we can finally have a non biased comparison. 🤣
Even if there were no Planet Eclipse guns, I would still pick them.
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife Exactly
I'm just buying a 170r and slapping on my freak barrel. Boom knockoff cs2
Just put the SFT3 bolt in my 170r. Shot it vs and CS2 and like mine better. A few of my team mates loved the 170r. Personally I like the shot better on the 170r
Exactly. There's just not enough of a difference for me to want to buy it
"BETTER" LOL
So there the same
P.E. is thor's hammer!
Final score should be 6 to 9 with that change in upgradability. ;)
I think the best value is a pump gun. Let's say you have $1500.
$250 azodin
$200 68/4500
$10 hopper
$15 bag of paint
$1,000 for cocaine and hookers.
A lot of the people I play with use pumps and old mechanicals. I don't use my dye m3+ as often as I should.
joshua beaman or do a entail for 60 bucks and have 1440 for cocaine and hookers.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL PE cant sell CS2s, since the 170R is basically the same gun. Hey PRML make a video saying how good the CS2 is.
Don’t get suckered by the hype. The CS2 is not that great. I have a CS2 and an Etha2 and most days I field my etha because it’s a better marker. My friend just got a new Lux. And the lux is better in every category vs the CS2. I wish I had never got a CS2. 100% Buyers remorse.
What? Etha2 better? Dilusional. Etha2 has more little quirks than CS2.
Said no one ever. Lux lol. Clackety clack clack clack.
Uhhhhhhh, an Etha2 over a CS2? Are you smoking crack bro?
@@joshuagrayson9356 nope. They have pretty much the same internals. The CS2 breaks a lot less balls but over all with shitty practice paint the eatha2 out performs the CS2 week after week. My CS2 in the past year has become my backup marker. Trust me I want my $2000 setup to outperform my $600 setup but it just doesn't.
@@joshuagrayson9356 I've talked to a few marker techs and they say I'm not alone and nothing can be done. The CS2 is not as good as the fan boys will have you believe. All planet Eclipse markers are super reliable, that is true.
I have a insepshon cocker and the cocking rod is stuck in the cocked position how do I uncock it
If it stuck, id guess the lug on the hammer is not adjusted correct.
Shweaty
P.E paid him to make this
Yep
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife haha