Number one best feature you didn’t talk about that the idol has over EVERY other marker is the Tooless frame swap between mech and electric. R5 and dye aren’t even mech compatible so the luxe really is like buying one marker and e two
It's interesting that macdev is never included in these comparisons. Does macdev not pay to be included or is it because lonewolf never has them in stock?
I think it's simply MacDev isn't really talked about, nor do their markers seem to stick around. Beyond that, which companies promote their products all the time vs which don't. Can't tell you the last time I saw ANY MacDev ad outside a marker trailer video. Every other company also has a variety of markers with price ranges. Take PE for example: if you buy an emek, you would know the PE platform, and perhaps go to the next step with an ETHA, (maybe GTEK but that's a decade old,) then 180r, then CS3 depending on your budget, and all markers will be the same at heart (Gamma core) so maintenence and knowledge of that said marker is easily transferable, just with a new thing here or there you have to learn after the introductory purchase (electronics, reg, etc). MacDev on the other hand, only has a high end marker, which NO one that's just getting into paintball is interested in paying. Heck even hearing an entire setup that's halfway decent is around $800 would turn most around, and that's with a low-ish end marker. Gotta have presence, or you simply aren't present.
From my understanding Macdev had really really bad aftersales support and QC issues for a while. So much so that vendors got fed up and dropped them. Supposedly they're trying to turn that image around and Immortal Air is taking on the challenge of stocking their parts and selling their guns. I think the GT2 looks pretty sweet, actually considering one. But yeah, obviously the guys reviewing them here won't have it in the round up because at the end of the day it's about selling, and they don't sell MacDev.
@@RepentanceGarden I was using TM40 as my main gun after my shocker amp started giving me issues. I’ve only played with the Teahupo’o last Sunday because I took a long break when I bought it last year. It’s the first custom gun I ever bought so I don’t want to rough it up, and kind of treat it like a trophy gun.
@littletweeter1327 honestly idk how Dye ups the game, their DSR is amazing and with some many PLs dipping their hands in on their midrange vs their high end, if you can keep your costs and ideas flowing in that $1100~ category (the old high end IMO...) you should rule the market. Honestly the amount of people I see shooting a DSR, vs many other markers that you could choose is incredible. It's weasled it's way into the talks with PE and DLX. If they just made one with a better grip that didn't cut into the skin between my thumb and index finger, I'd probably have one by now. (Mech frame btw)
r5 is having issues when using a ctrl or spire. Idol shoots absolute money. M3's always a good shooter but its dated, more ppl like the DSR over the M3 so wont be surprised if the next DSR becomes the flagship marker
Luxe M3 w/ that side screen 😭 🤡 Luxe could’ve done better & not have pro players take control of the Luxe design. I love the R5 though. Another masterpiece by P.E.
hey at least there's rumors of a new dye marker coming soon. i'm seeing signs that the m3+ is no longer being produced. but of course, i could be wrong. i don't have any real info.
@@Connor00077Right because features are more important then how the marker shoots. The DSR+ is the better shooting marker. It’s also more reliable and a workhorse. The screen on the m3+ does not make it better lol
All im gonna say is this. A regular DSR+ used starts at $600-$650 the IM prokit and the exalt thumbscrew are about an extra $100. I have a geo IV and unless they made thE R5 20x smoother than the IV, its just wasting money on a “brand new” system that has barely changed. Ive personally shot a DSR+ and I like that thing more than M3S.
Number one best feature you didn’t talk about that the idol has over EVERY other marker is the Tooless frame swap between mech and electric. R5 and dye aren’t even mech compatible so the luxe really is like buying one marker and e two
It's interesting that macdev is never included in these comparisons. Does macdev not pay to be included or is it because lonewolf never has them in stock?
I think it's simply MacDev isn't really talked about, nor do their markers seem to stick around. Beyond that, which companies promote their products all the time vs which don't. Can't tell you the last time I saw ANY MacDev ad outside a marker trailer video.
Every other company also has a variety of markers with price ranges. Take PE for example: if you buy an emek, you would know the PE platform, and perhaps go to the next step with an ETHA, (maybe GTEK but that's a decade old,) then 180r, then CS3 depending on your budget, and all markers will be the same at heart (Gamma core) so maintenence and knowledge of that said marker is easily transferable, just with a new thing here or there you have to learn after the introductory purchase (electronics, reg, etc). MacDev on the other hand, only has a high end marker, which NO one that's just getting into paintball is interested in paying. Heck even hearing an entire setup that's halfway decent is around $800 would turn most around, and that's with a low-ish end marker.
Gotta have presence, or you simply aren't present.
No one wants a Mac dev
From my understanding Macdev had really really bad aftersales support and QC issues for a while. So much so that vendors got fed up and dropped them. Supposedly they're trying to turn that image around and Immortal Air is taking on the challenge of stocking their parts and selling their guns. I think the GT2 looks pretty sweet, actually considering one. But yeah, obviously the guys reviewing them here won't have it in the round up because at the end of the day it's about selling, and they don't sell MacDev.
I wonder when dye will be dropping a new marker. Always wanted an M3+ but I bought a TM40 and a Teahupo’o LV 1.6
I got a Teahupo’o too, wondering which one you use as your main
@@RepentanceGarden I was using TM40 as my main gun after my shocker amp started giving me issues. I’ve only played with the Teahupo’o last Sunday because I took a long break when I bought it last year. It’s the first custom gun I ever bought so I don’t want to rough it up, and kind of treat it like a trophy gun.
M4 should be relatively soon. It’s design was already leaked
@littletweeter1327 honestly idk how Dye ups the game, their DSR is amazing and with some many PLs dipping their hands in on their midrange vs their high end, if you can keep your costs and ideas flowing in that $1100~ category (the old high end IMO...) you should rule the market. Honestly the amount of people I see shooting a DSR, vs many other markers that you could choose is incredible. It's weasled it's way into the talks with PE and DLX. If they just made one with a better grip that didn't cut into the skin between my thumb and index finger, I'd probably have one by now. (Mech frame btw)
Maintenance is a noun, maintain is the verb you're looking for fellas.
Trying to pick a color for an r5
Those black colorways are nice I just got my black/blue one last week, beautiful in person!!
@@Ikalgooo that one caught my eye.. might strike
Have you tried brass eagle
r5 is having issues when using a ctrl or spire. Idol shoots absolute money. M3's always a good shooter but its dated, more ppl like the DSR over the M3 so wont be surprised if the next DSR becomes the flagship marker
It's a loader firmware issue, not an R5 issue.
Why don’t you compare all of these to the bob long insight NG haha
Wgere is lv2 abd cs3 ?
Luxe M3 w/ that side screen 😭 🤡 Luxe could’ve done better & not have pro players take control of the Luxe design. I love the R5 though. Another masterpiece by P.E.
Dont forget you can adjust the position of the asa on the m3+ with the allen key slot right above it. Dont see people talk about thag often
hey at least there's rumors of a new dye marker coming soon. i'm seeing signs that the m3+ is no longer being produced. but of course, i could be wrong. i don't have any real info.
the CS3 is not in the list anymore? 😪
shooting comparisons?
2:46 you have to measure from under the shaft 😂, everybody knows that
Woah are we already calling the r5 better then the cs3 ?! Lol
@@loumullin7957 *than
Fde is so moch better than white mark 😂😂
@@austink4712 moch??
DSR+ is the better DYE marker.
Better value for money yes, but the M3+ has better features
@@Connor00077Right because features are more important then how the marker shoots.
The DSR+ is the better shooting marker. It’s also more reliable and a workhorse.
The screen on the m3+ does not make it better lol
Would be nice if they put the dsr engine in a similar body as the m3+ with the same features,
I want to see a comparison between the Dye Dsr+ icon vs the PE Geo r5. I am between buy one or the other.
Get the PE.
All im gonna say is this. A regular DSR+ used starts at $600-$650 the IM prokit and the exalt thumbscrew are about an extra $100. I have a geo IV and unless they made thE R5 20x smoother than the IV, its just wasting money on a “brand new” system that has barely changed. Ive personally shot a DSR+ and I like that thing more than M3S.
You know what to do. And we'll love you for it. 🥰
@@planeteclipse if i had the money to drop on one, id buy one.😂
I have both the DSR + Icon and Geo R5. Both fantastic markers. I would go with whichever you can get the best deal on.
Tool-less is overrated.
Camera men should never be speaking...and not everything is a "bad boy". Worst 2 things about your videos.
They all look the same and do the same thing.
these are just a waste of money