Difference between female narcissists and male narcissists - Sam Vaknin & Richard Grannon

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

Комментарии • 18

  • @arikaGME
    @arikaGME 2 года назад +10

    Typically psychology tends to look at disorders… what if we shifted the discussion to modeling healthy patterns instead. It seems like people insist on labeling others and acting out the worst characteristics of psychological disorders. what if we promoted responsibility and regulation instead as viable alternatives to Dysregulation? Could you make content on healthy ways of reacting to stress, anger and confusion? Many of us came out of completely dysfunctional family systems and seriously never learned better strategies.

    • @katieandi1296
      @katieandi1296 3 месяца назад

      I think the the best thing to say to people who ask good questions when resources are lacking is: Make It!

    • @dominiknewfolder2196
      @dominiknewfolder2196 3 месяца назад

      I made it for myself because I couldn't stand psychologists.
      I was able to move from cold empathy into a real thing.
      I was highly narcissistic, not NPD.
      It's now crystal clearly why narcissists are behaving that way. Going through repressed memories was hell for me, sometimes I wished someone would kill me because of high levels of psychological pain.
      Avoiding it is perfectly understandable.
      I can tell you that the majority if not all psychologists are unhealthy psychologically especially in the area of SPLITTING.
      They are highly narcissistic but hide it behind overt empathy. I felt it from both sides: being showered with "understanding" or treated badly. Zero emotional flexibility.
      After long "therapy" and a couple of "specialists" I did it for myself in six months.
      I've been in dozens of homes where psychologists lived as a part of my work.
      They all were abusive while spitting psychological labels onto spouses and children.
      It's a defense mechanism where instead of experiencing someone shift into well known and controlled emotional space.
      I know it because in the past I also did it.
      Now I'm comfortable going through being hurt by someone and moving into forgiveness and deep understanding.
      It can be done but don't count on "specialists".
      One more thing. The language of psychology is ugly and objectifies people. I can't stand it 😂
      Gosh , it sounds like a shovel scraping the sidewalk.

  • @katieandi1296
    @katieandi1296 3 месяца назад +1

    My son and daughter both have autism and are "high functioning". Their autism, although made up of the same biological components, expresses itself so differently that I didn't realize my daughter had it until years after my son. I was telling a behavioral specialist who worked with my son (who had only ever worked with males w autism) that my daughter was just diagnosed and I had had no idea, but I see now that she is following the same script, just expressing the lines differently (some with greater skill, like the social piece). Diff bw males and females with autism are factual and accepted by the scientific and medical community. He then said my kids presented diff bc I raised one as a girl and one as a boy. All of the emphasis was on gender. I'm not good at explaining it, but that's stupid.

  • @lainiwakura6903
    @lainiwakura6903 2 года назад +3

    "mental illness is a role model" - jeez, I can't agree more!

  • @yvonneskoczek6152
    @yvonneskoczek6152 2 года назад +1

    I used to listen to Sam years before I ever saw you online and after 20 minutes I’d get very tired. Somehow when he engages with you and you with him, I can really get into and enjoy all of these complex ideas so.. thank you for befriending Sam “THE malignant narcissist” 😆🙏🏼 appreciate you both!

  • @emp9413
    @emp9413 2 года назад +1

    Haha. Sam is awesome. Great stuff! Appreciate the shorter clips easier to squeeze em in :)

  • @Juke582
    @Juke582 2 года назад

    I love this interview style!!! Answering a question we may have is so relatable. I don’t care if you are from evil Putin land, You are awesome Sam! … just a joke back at ya! 😂

  • @machstem2536
    @machstem2536 2 года назад

    great take

  • @emp9413
    @emp9413 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting! Completely agree about masculinity and femininity as performative social roles. I notice the same - characteristics matching roles. Why I'm not bound to such ideas, and I think gender roles are bound to the evolution of society. * Change isn't inherently bad, perfectly natural. Where that takes us is another question.

  • @llunavermella_bloodmoon
    @llunavermella_bloodmoon 3 месяца назад

    Too ignorant on sex and gender to say certain things but he gets some things right (like gender being very environmental). Some prejudice against women there. But yeah he's probably right about how narcisism shows depending on the sex of the individual.

  • @lamentate07
    @lamentate07 2 года назад +4

    Not sure I buy into the idea that the differences between men and women are all or mostly due to socialisation anymore. Male and female narcs manipulate in different ways. Women are also more likely to be covert and have other associated problems, such as neuroticism. I'd say that is a pretty important distinction. Perhaps from a 'psycho-dynamic' perspective it doesn't matter as much, but to those of us that aren't academics, it is pretty important.