Total War History: Battle of Adrianople (Part 2/4)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The tenuous situation along the border spirals out of control.With the barbarian pressure mounting, the emperor Valens now makes it his immediate goal to bring a decisive and swift end to this crisis. (Part 1/4: • Total War History: Bat... )
Literary Sources:
Legions of Rome: The Definitive History of Every Imperial Roman Legion by Stephen Dando-Collins
Uniforms of the Roman World by Kevin Kiley
Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of Empire by Simon Baker
How Rome Fell by Adrian Goldsworthy
The Complete Roman Army by Adrian Goldsworthy
Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity by J.E. Lendon
The End of Empire: Attila the Hun and the Fall of Rome by Christopher Kelly
Music:
"Masterpiece" - Jassana Time
"Champions of God" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"Hope in the East" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"Concealed Blades" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"Caesar's Nightmare" - Rome Total War Soundtrack
"Legions of the West" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"Roma Pulchra" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"The Red Horse" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
I showed this to my history teacher. She loved it.
I am a prof. of History by education. And I can say that you are doing a very good job here. Brilliant.
Just wanted to say that this series was pretty fascinating. Better than a lot of TV docos. It'll be great if there are more in store. Thanks man.
One of my favorite aspects of these videos is how you keep in mind and actually discuss the fact that we look back with the benefit of hindsight. Most historians I've read don't seem to give that point it's due. People like Valens don't make decisions they think will result in disaster, they act based on the information at hand and what they think they are capable of just like we do now.
Also, I want to point out the thing about not wanting to share the glory of a victory is a valid concern in their times. Glories from war were an important influence in a persons political and military life. Not being able to win your own victories makes you look weak both to those barbarian tribes and to your political competition. We poo poo it nowadays because WWI and WWII traumatized us away from thinking of warfare as "glorious" because those were such horrid conflicts, but back then it was the norm and leaders were expected to fight and win their own battles to prove their worth.
I have shared your documentaries with my history teacher and she loves them! Her curriculum covers from Mesopotamia to Byzantium and so your documentaries on Rome and the Punic Wars are perfect! Keep up the good work!
THFE Productions Thank you so much for these documentary videos, my fiancé has to take a course in classic history for university and I pointed her to your videos, me being a history buff myself (actually just graduated with a B.S. in Civil engineering) I quite enjoy the amount of historical accuracy you've out in, my fiancé has gotten very good marks from watching your stuff so far, needless to say we can't wait for part 3! Thank you for being awesome!!
That's really cool to hear, glad I could educate and entertain. It's kinda funny you mention your a civil engineer since I'm gonna be graduating this year with a BS in mechanical engineering : )
I took some time to watch your vlog from 2013, i had to take 2 classes of thermo along with cal 3, university physics 2, and a few humanities courses my 2nd and 3rd year, i have no idea how you could be so involved in your school, put out awesome videos, and all the while maintaining your grades, congrats! Good luck with your FE exam if you haven't taken it yet, it's tough but i know you'll be able to do it! Earning the title as an engineer in training is something i'll always remember. I'm not gonna lie though you have a much more rigorous curricula then i do. My hats off to you friend!
A B.S. lol? You're getting literal bullshit degrees? Secondly, Invicta, why bother getting a degree, let alone in something like that, when you're making so much money and investing so much effort in historical videos?
Glad to see you continue with the documentaries with Attila
this content has a lot of quality in it! Can't wait for part 3
I love your History videos with mixed of Attila total war, this brought me much excitement, as i love both ATW and Roman History
all this conflict wouldn't have happened if they had cellphones
Or a 100 times easier
Wow, this video made me watch Historical Battles of the Ancient World again! That was a great series.
I totally love your historical series
haha sweet, glad you enjoyed it : )
Nice! Very Nice!
I enjoy watching your videos rather than play the game itself! Excited for the next parts!
this is awesome. Given the tools you could do any historical battle. Amazing stuff.
Nice work THFE Productions, nice camera and video capture of Attila TW.
Keep it up.
thanks you very much for your hard work, the result is very pleasing to watch!
Great documentary!!! Looking forward to next episode.
again epic! Im refreshing your youtube page fore this content every day.
Wow I absolutely love your history series! I particulary enjoyed the first punic war history you made, and this one is awesome as well! I have waited a very long time for this part. Keep it up, it's awesome !!!
I have a fun time making these and sometimes even go back and watch my old ones as entertainment. It becomes clear that these new ones are vastly superior in quality than my first attempts but I'm still proud of all my work.
THFE Productions you should find some more people for this series i really enjoy it but i would like to see more parts :) and i have a question should i buy total war attila? Because i like history but im not sure the dlc's are terrible
+THFE Productions I don´t know if it is nostalgia, but for me your Punic War series is the best (I have yet to see the History of the Legions, though). While the other series are just as good, I can´t help but to feel that the Punic Wars has a certain "something" that makes it unique.
+THFE Productions You are so better than those channels about "documentary". I love the structure, the analysis and the plot in yours, it makes more objective and not sensationalist like THC or Discovery are in those days. Keep the good job, i love your channel. Greetings from México. Sorry my bad english n_n'
Sicarius Devx muchas gracias : )
Yes! I've been looking forward to this!!
After this documentary I would like to see a Gettysburg battle doc (with the american civil war mod) or a Napoleonic campaign. I know it takes a while but these are great and I know you'd nail one of those topics!
Thank you for putting this up
my pleasure
Awesome work! This may be a little far-fetched, but at the level you're at with the quality, you'd make a great historian!
Haha thanks for the compliment : )
outstanding! this rocks! keep it up!
good job mate! I hope you will do more documentary like this with more period time, like... use Empire and Napoleon for the 17 - 18 century
Amazing work you have here. I like the shots, music and the overal story. 10+!
What cam/mod do you use ingame ( R:TW2)?
Really solid stuff, slight constructive criticism..... practice your script a few times. Keep up the great work!
I love these, keep them coming! :D
Very nice video and very well narrated ;)
My answer to this was simple, Valens should of waited for his nephew with a larger force to support him.
The Goth's supply line was that of plunder and not of living of the land.
They could of been denied plunder if Valens had order a scorce land policy, and deny the Goth's supplies, their for weakening the Goths resolve to fight.
That's what I think.
Boots on the ground?
Don't you mean "sandals" on the ground?
Great channel! I love it! :)
Amazing job dude!
Nice !! Thanks for using the music !!
I loved that piece but picked it up from someone else's video who had it attributed to you under the name "Masterpiece". Is that the correct title?
THFE Productions Yes it is Masterpiece !
Who would dislike this video? It's information...
What's this!? I was promised Rick astley God damn it!
Your videos are of amazing quality!! and since discovering the fact that you study Mechanical Engineering it just makes you even more awesome! (i study Mechanical Design Engineering)
definitely a great major to be in but at times I wonder how I've been able to do that plus RUclips
That's what i keep thinking too haha must be some kind of wizard...
It'd be strange if the eastern emperor was as jealous of his nephew as uts said he was, and wanted to win alone, considering his first action was to call on the west for help
AWESOME .Thanks for the effort
Always appreciate the support : )
Lindybeige is going to be upset at you for all those fire arrows! ;) But actually I think you did an amazing job. I'm assuming you used Total War: Attila and/or other games to create this. Do you have a video about how exactly you stage the scenes, make sure they are as accurate as possible and with the most realistic backgrounds, etc? Did you ever have to, say, pretend that vikings were Goths or Persians were Romans, etc?
Just after being rick rolled ~Well, it compensates. lol
figured I owed it to you guys
When's next part?? I love this series
GamingKid Christian working on it some more this weekend
Great vid man! I have a question, are u interested in making a narrative campaign lets play like u did in the ERE showcase vid?
If I can find the time to play an extensive campaign it might actually be cool to bring you guys the highlights. I think its a pretty sweet format
This is great! Where is part 3?!
This was amazing, thank you!
I aim to please : )
Great job !!! :)
3:10 why are the Romans in what appears to be a testudo formation? It doesn't appear that any missiles are hitting them, so what would the purpose be for having their shields raised?
shouldnt have let them in
They would have just attacked anyway. It was just an attempt to prevent war which failed.
Can't wait for the next
Great. Where is part 3 ? :)
part 3 already!!! Man you guys are desperate for history documentaries... I blame history channel for abandoning us all
THFE Productions
I meant this to be as a joke because you once complain that the narration of this videos are not your favorite part :) And yes i do like them (your videos) :)
Most documentaries that i watched about Roman Empire are filled with nonsense - even made em to look a bit like action movies - i do not mind reenactments and costumes - but they go overboard.....
reop reop I must agree, the actor portrayals make me cringe
Out of curiosity, since you seem to love roman history, have you ever read Eagle in the Snow by Wallace Breem?
I have not, I am in the process of reading the Warrior of Rome series by Harry Sidebottom though
You know what are really good books? The Soldier of Rome Series. I think is kindle/Amazon exclusive, but maybe its available elsewhere. The author is good and a bestseller yet he isn't too famous.
You need to do another vlog!
an update vlog!
I am thinking of maybe doing one when I hit 50k subs soonish
awesome man!
love the videos by the way!
Oh my god with the limitanei.
Actually you made a mistake in that Diocletian splited the Empire in half. Theodosius the first did dat. Other than that it was pretty accurate, great job
Yes part 2!!!!
Boots is a way to show strength? Well dang, I didn't know my ex was as powerful as a legion... She surely cost as much as one to maintain though!
hey do you have a schedule for releasing these? Asking so that if you don't, I"ll just wait till you finish part IV before I start to watch.
I am slowly starting work on part 3 now. Keep in mind that each of these is very taxing for a single person to do so expect maybe a month between episodes to be safe
no worries mate, just take your time. I would rather have a quality product than something that was rushed. Just asking so i have a general idea. Lmk if you need any help. thanks
One question, why do you sound a bit strange when saying "Limitanei" ?
Just curious :p
I originally recorded the audio for parts 1 and 2 before Attila came out and realized after the fact that I had mispronounced "Limitanei"
Perfect man ! All i can say:-)
Dominik Loudín Thanks : ) I'm about half way done with part 3
Looking forward :-)
Very nice vid as always but I do regret that you minimize the importance of the barbarization of roman armies. Not that I wish to make a political point by saying so but it is obvious that the legions were unable to cope with so many threat when so few romans were ready to get up and defend what was theirs. Every roman defeat eventually provoked massive desertions of Goths, Alamans, Huns and Alans mercenaries while every roman victory became unexploitable since the barbarians generals that obtained them generally used them afterwards to secure personnal power. The sack of Rome in 410 AD is basically the story of an unsatisfied 'general', the goth Alaric while the last great roman victory at the Catalaunic Fields against the Huns in 451 is also, in fact, a germanic victory that lead to the final loss of Gaul.
Its also not true to say that most of these barbarians were romanized while integrating the empire's army : it's in fact the very opposite. Some legions actually replaced their eagle by steppe tribes standards (A wooden poll with a horse tail tied to it). The gladius disappeared in favor of the longer spatha, copied from germanic swords. Many officers with a very poor knowledge of latin were promoted. And as you already mentionned, heavy cav became a very important component of the roman army, which meant the massive inclusion of nomadic or half nomadic tribes that didn't care one bit about the greco-latin lifestyle.
kinda funny. I play Attila as western roman empire. and despite all the rebellions and barbarian attacks ive managed to hold onto a good deal of the empire (Lost England), however the eastern roman empire lost virtually all of Greece and is losing its own wars against rival powers.
Goths are a variation of Getae- Thracian not Germanic nation. Contemporary Bulgarians and Romanians are arguing if Goths are there forefathers. Professor Gancho Tsenov wrote in Berlin a paper "Goths or Bulgarians?" His conclusions where based on ancient sources and sources from the Vatican library plus the strikingly large number of Bulgarian names among Gothic aristocracy. Therefore the Balkan music playing at the scene of the approaching the Danube border Goths was very appropriate.
No sane Romanian historian would consider Goths equal to the Getae. This confusion comes from Jordanes who tried to make Goths more "noble".
And for Gods sake, decide already what you, Bulgarians are: Slavs, turk Bulgars, Thraco-Romans or... Goths
part 3 now ! :D
Magnificent
MOAR
:05 Constantinople is in the wrong place it is slightly further south
isn't it pronounced as sway-vai , i mean those German tribes in Caesar's commentaries
The original Custer.
Nice video .. can you explain how did you create it:
how to set up shots before battles and in battles.
mods or software you used??
thanks
Setting up shots in battle is just a matter of putting together a custom battle of your choosing and making your troops perform certain actions. You then place the camera just right and record it with Fraps. For some cool camera work you just need to make sure you set your camera movement / turn speed way down. For editing I just use a mid tier program called Power Director
Thanks ..
THFE Productions what's your graphical settings in recording? I can't even run extreme nor high, I have a 970 and 4690k
I can run High. I have 4790k + i7.
You can try this website to give you information about your PC and provide suggestion for upgrade if the coast little
or use it for feature PC build that rocks with good price. I have used it and regret nothing.
www.userbenchmark.com/
Just download their benchmark software and test your PC to know what is wrong with your current specs and have advice on best hardware to upgrade and their price.
Ugh, the cliffhanger!
There was a time, before Rome was divided, when the history of Europe could be measured in dynasties. Most of the region was united, and massive walls were beginning to be erected to protect against the rest. Sound familiar? It would seem to me that there was a time when Europe and China may have had parallel histories.
Damn the Huns!
Michael Castro You mean inept emperors?
Montpelier Montgomery Europe constant warfare is what led to such feat advancment
Yo Adrien?
which Goths???
2:47 If your guy has German ancestors, and is hung like a horse, odds are they were Swabian.
CA is owned by SEGA, so like here in Finland says: One's bread you eat, the one's songs you sing! Celts DLC was really disappointment. in campaign it is fun but in multiplayer totally fubar. If Adolf Hitler would see this germanic ownage in his coffin he would laugh so devilishly! Damn you CA yet I hope you regain your honor! Good vid ^^!
10:57 why that guy staff glow?
John von Shepard sunlight reflection and an imperfect physics engine
jacksondemere oh
Roman Border Patrol, Are you a Roman citizen?
Danube (dann-yoob)
Even more US/Western parallels. It's fun living in a declining empire.
Europe 2030
Goth were not germans, they were the thracian tribe of the Getae of old. The culture, artefacts, language remnants and names proves that. This also explains the treason of the thracian troops in the battle.
OMG SO AWESOME firstttt
Greece 2025... Only now they are a lot worse...
The Huns (the Turkic peoples) will rise again!
erdal0 k
*****
we will mess you up you dirty peasant
your accent is weird
This is great, the machinima is done so well, the only thing that needs work is VO. I recommend not reading off a script, but instead when you have finished writing the script you should immediately start practising with it. Play with the words you use and the way you say them, modify the script as you go along. Once you think you know your script well enough to basically do a stage performance in front of hundreds of people, then you should start recording. Record in approx 2 min chunks, do as many takes as you require until you are 100% happy, then move on to the next chunk. Remember that when you do VO, even with historical documentaries you are acting. Do this and you'll have a AAA level documentary on your hands. I hope this helps.
Great!
Love your documentaries. Imho they are unmatched when it comes to using the TW Engine.
Limitanei
The moral of the story is BUILD A WALL.
dreyrugr Build it!
Totally worked in Britain
@Kenneth Knoppik The Limes did work though.
The Chinese wall was just not ment for such a task and nor was it used appropiately to act as a defense against real invasions.
dude i really love your documentaries and this video is no exception.Keep up the good work.Total war games have inspired me to read about historical events too.I am looking forward to the 3rd part PS1:Since we are interested in that era the last couple of months cause of Attila,a nice idea would be to make a similar video about the battle of the catalaunian fields :) PS2:forgive me for me english,english is not my mother language
Glad you found the video entertaining and educational! I was actually already thinking about doing the battle of the Cataluanian fields : )
THFE Productions really?so will you do it?it's official man you just made my day
Many thanks for these great historical battles introductions
Hi oakley umm i have a question how do you get rid of the lag
pls respond
Love your documentary videos! Keep it going! Huge fan of yours. From Puerto Rico !
This series reminds me of an old show. Forgot the name, but it was on history channel a long time ago. I fucking miss it. They used Rome 1 as footage for recreating ancient battles.
I really appreciate your commentary during the last minute of the video, where you mention how easy it is to judge military commanders in hindsight. I think history is 50/50 facts and perspective. Well done.
The History Channel only makes a few shows. Most are made by contract media firms, some as small as 4 people. Less overhead, less expensive. Big media is losing out, the internet firms are taking over. Good!
0:20 - 0:23 it sounded like you lagged then started talking again lol. And it sounded like you said "protecteh..." but I think you meant "protected" lol. Are you a robot or did I catch a change in the matrix?
we can and should judge him. he left save walls for an enemy detatchment that most likely wouldnt have grown again, since the reason for them splitting up was the food supply. instead, he should have atacked the ones at the hill pass who moved slowly. capture the families and force a surrender.
Fantastic work. Keep it coming!!! :)
So glad you uploaded this... Amazing work of art