Thirty Years’ War: The Horror Of Europe’s Bloodiest Conflict | Holy Wars | Chronicle
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- The biggest catastrophe in Europe, the Thirty Years' War, was caused by Martin Luther's longing for a purer Christianity. Between 1618 and 1648, Europe lost over 8 million innocent people, in an orgy of violence between Protestants and Catholics. Often referred to as "Europe's apocalypse", how did a war between people of the same faith lead to such appalling catastrophe?
00:00 The Protestant Reformation
10:08 St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre
10:36 The Thirty Years' War
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That there is a word for throwing someone out of a window is nuts.
It’s a real PANE in the ass..
Just to see if they could Fly !!!
Putin knows the Russian word.
It was kind of a public political violent act happening in many civilisations through out the history. Usually caused by a angry mass of people. Thats why it has name. But i liked your comment, actually you are right,its absurd
Defenster, Fenster is German for window
How do you have a video on the Thirty Year's War, which started in Prague in 1618 with the Defenestration of Prague, and not mention the centuries long resistance of Roman Catholicism in Bohemia starting with the first church reformer, Catholic priest Jan Huss, who questioned church corruption, indulgences, etc. and was burned at the stake for heresy at the council of Constance, which led to the subsequent Hussite wars which defeated multiple Papal crusades.
And even a Hussite King Jiřík z Poděbrad. You saved me the trouble of watching this.
The narrator said that Magellan sailed to prove the world was round. That is a false statement. Like many others, he already knew the world was round. He set sail to find a way to get to the so-called Spice Islands.
Because of the Vikings, they knew there was a vast continent west of Europe! Long before Columbus set sail
@Scott Pope nah even the ancient Greeks had already discovered that the earth was round.
@@scottpope-rg5sg The knowledge of the Danes(Vikings) was lost(as they only had a few forestry camps), as well with the Chinese, Russians and potentially even(but unlikely) the Carthaginians, which is why we say Columbus discovered America, as he rediscovered America and made the knowledge "mainstream"
One of his sailors was named Penguin and the bird was named after him.
It also doesn't prove that the world is spherical any more than walking around your living room in a circle makes it a sphere.
"dissatisfied german monk" is definitely the most concise and precise description of martin luther
Only if you mistake profound moral and ethical struggles for a mere „dissatisfaction“.
Do you even know who he was? Doesn’t sound like it.
@@silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 Ok soyboy
@@DogeickBateman 🤡🤡🤡
you missed the point completly . it was the printting press. the fact that the masses could read a book for themsself . till then it was controled by the church/ Faith was used. used for power and wealth. the Masses startted to think for themself and they didnt like what they were seeing . like wise the church didnt like the lose of power that came from people being able to read the bible for themself .
Also the swess were known at that TIME , to be a fightting block of people who fought for money not belieth? damed if i can find the right spelling for that word when a person beleaves in something belief's ? it will come to me when i stop thinking about it , it always dose !
11:03 it was the third defenestration of Prague, but hey, who's counting :)
I have never heard totalitarianism of all vile things, spun and woven in such a deceptively positive light. But, against the backdrop of what came before, I must admit that it seems to have been a step in the right direction, may I be forgiven. My distaste for mankind has found yet a deeper pit to rest.
Alright Shakespeare give it a rest
@@bobsmith3291 No
Here in the states the founding fathers were way ahead of their time.They saw all the madness happening in Europe and tried to prevent that from happening here in America. (Separation of church and state, religious freedom). Watching this segment explains why most Americans are of German descent. (Fleeing religious wars in Europe).
The 30 years war was before American independence. But yes, clearly the building of American ways was influenced by the memory.
So how is it you speak English rather than German in your fast fading empire?
Martin Luther “didn’t want a reformation, he only wanted to reform.”
I’m pretty sure that’s the same thing.
No. It is not. Nuanced thought is required.
Excellent documentary.
by excellent i think you mean sucky. this is a docu drama, not a documentary.
@@Tony_Fot seriously wtf. It's a documentary. Stop gatekeeping.
This is one of those series I would like to see all in one video lolol
Reading these comments it's comforting to know that disagreement over the interpretation of events is still alive and well then it was over religious doctrine these days it's over historical revisionism and language...is the 30 years war part II on the horizon?
that was ww1 and 2
@@Jakeurb8ty82 yeah some historians claim that.
Some of my ancestors were Swiss mercenaries and their decedents still live in the low countries. My direct ancestor left St Gallen in Switzerland in 1649 with two other brothers and went to Schönau near Heidelberg 👌
"[the Papal legate ordered the death of the city's residents.]"
THE PURGE OF EUROPEAN ANCESTRY MOORS, AFRICANS AND MUSLIMS at the --- those that had sought shelter and refuge from the reconquista's crusades of expulsions, forced conversions and inquisitions, this are the actions of the Catholic church in Europe that finally cemented racism, as we understand it today, since it directly led to colonialism and enslavement ...
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I was 8 years old during the reformation
Saying Magellan proved the world is round just makes you question the validity of this otherwise great documentary. The Ancient Greeks knew it was round for goodness sake, and the Vikings knew there was something West of Britain. Credibility matters, and one offhand comment can call the whole into question.
The greeks knew that but did they prove this in practice?
@@schmarotzer85 yes, the greeks proved it, using mathematics. You dont have to navigate the world to prove the world is round, the same way you dont have to travel to the Sun to prove what the distance from earth to sun is, or travel back in time to prove how old the earth is
Think it was a poorly framed phrase to mean 'they circumnavigated the world's. But general agree a stray word or fact like that can really undermine otherwise great work
@@Joao-id4dndis u mean Archimedes maybe ever sailed to weat after that.and meet america and goes back to asia? Prove them to the world and we're about to get u an award🔥🤣🔥🔥🔥
@@Joao-id4dn There's a difference between rational, ie, mathematical proof and empirical proof. Please see Zeno's paradox that proves a Ferrari cannot overtake a pedestrian with a head start
Magellan died in the Philippines, around half way the entire planned trip. I wonder how come he ever demonstrated something he never accomplished. His second in command Juan Sebastian Elcano was the one finishing the entire circumvallation. Also Magellan, in order to have his trip financed by the Spanish/Castilian crown, had to be naturalized as Castilian and his name changed to Fernando Magallanes. Gee, it's history, right up your alley.
Magellan was the mastermind of the first global circumnavigation and will always be remembered for it. Elcano finished it, but the trip would never have happened without Magellan.
@@j.yumuraj2880 it was possible to happen because he got backed up by the crown of Castile (and had to become naturalized in the process, meaning he was a Spanish subject at the time he did it, no matter where he was born at) otherwise it would have not happened at all. He didn't seem to have much control over it anyway and his own belief that he was better than anyone else, was his final demise too.
a) Nobody really cares about the naturalization. He was Portuguese, working on Spain’s behalf. That’s how his men saw him, that’s how he saw himself.
b) He’s an important historical figure regardless of whether he died on the voyage. Nobody else at the time was daring enough to attempt circumnavigation, and Elcano (who attempted a failed coup halfway through the journey btw) couldn’t have planned the trip, or navigated the uncharted portions of it.
@@j.yumuraj2880 Magellan in Portugal couldn't have done anything, they didn't want him there, that's why he had to become a Spaniard, You say ElCano, couldn't have done it? How did he ended completing the voyage then? I mean it was half a way, it's not like Magellan came any closer to finish it at all. Magellan made a free ride without almost any opposition, it was ElCano who had to take the rest of the trip avoiding conflict with anyone in their way, far from the open sea the Pacifc ocean was. It would have been easier for him to come back from where he came, yet he continued the trip. You're just puking dumb stuff. If ElCano never went back and told the story, no one would even know Magellan got all the way to where he did and he would have been totally irrelevant.
Same way Verner Von Braun, couldn't have further his scientific developments without financial support and American nationality, no matter if he was born in Germany. Stop drinking, it's clouding your reasoning.
@@joseabad9416by the time Elcano took over the voyage, they were no longer in uncharted territory. Magellan found the Strait of Magellan, Magellan crossed the Pacific. Most of the rest of the journey had already been traveled by Europeans. Elcano was not a navigator, and didn’t plan the journey. This is an incredibly strange argument you are making, but I think it’s because you’re Filipino and you don’t want to give credit to Magellan. Regardless, Magellan is remembered as the one who accomplished the feat, and rightfully so. Goodbye.
Martin Luther wanted nothing more than a strong cup of coffee
And a massacre of peasants, according to his own words.
So what have we here? Catholic Trolls? PopeBots?
Ridiculous - most contemporary humans were bored of the Catholic Church:
Priests living shamelessly in luxus, sleeping with women.
A Borgia-Pope who got the title with corruption.
Noblemen „buying“ bishop-titles for there 12-year old kids.
Nobleman who betrayed and slaughtered civilians and payed the church money to get an „Absolution“.
Bloody inquisition in all European countries for the purpose of control society with a terror-regime.
No allowance to translate the Bible from Latin to European languages ….
Luther died in 1546. How come they didn't get around to starting the 30 Years Was until 1618? This was about 70 years later.
They had several smaller wars in that span, but the Peace do Augsburg in 1555 settled the issue for at least a time. This was the last War of Religion that ended that period.
Well, now I feel a lot better about what is coming. Humanity has been through a lot and we always survived as a species.
@Atropus Arbaalish We have had six mass extinction events since Earth started. Life bounced back. It was only the last time that we humans came around.
We'll see what happens after the coming mass extinction. Who knows what creatures will populate the planet. But the planet will always bounce back.
We had our chance. We blew it.
We are the only species that can self-extinct. So dont let your guard down.
The human cockroach needs to be eradicated
This is comfort that now it all must end, all we have been through all the evil and the suffering
To reform is to have a reformation. did you mean he didn't want a revolution or a rebellion?
Luther wanted to reform the church.
And he was not alone - the idea was ripe that the contemporary church was corrupted by Luxus and achievement of absolute power. Bishops, Cardinals and even the Pope got their titles through buying it - and ruling areas like kings - no separation of religion and government and jurisdiction.
Luther was no Revolutionary but it happened that his upstanding against the established system evoked the German peasant-revolt of 1525.
This turned soon into a bloody civil-war.
Luther was disgusted by the violence and took side with the noblemen that this had to end.
But then he was later shocked when the peasants were all slaughtered brutally.
Ausgezeichnet!
Is the music the soundtrack from Thin Red Line?
I’m pretty sure that it is
I follow your videos from Mexico, subtitles would be important for the followers of Latin America.
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People from all over the world follow this channel. They can not provide subtitles in all languages and if they only did it for one, it would not be fair. 🤷🏻♀️☝🏻
English is the universal and international language of the world, consider learning it. It is my 2nd language as well btw.
@@dietlindvonhohenwald448 obviously not all languages but it's not like Spanish is some obscure tongue
The automatic translation feature works quite well with this video. It's a bit literal in places, but one should be able to understand.
EDIT: Never mind... whenever there's someone speaking German with simultaneous translation to English, the automatic subtitles stop working and thus there aren't even English subtitles.
This all sounds really sinister and spooky 😊
Yes, if you argue too much about religion, you get so you can’t see the forest for the trees! I’m a Christian, a Jesus follower. I believe I have free will and I choose to put my faith in Him.
Europe’s bloodiest conflict? I don’t know about that one..
In terms of death rates comparable to the world population, it was comparable to WW2.
@@johnnymosam7331 death per capita
channel good . carry on.
This documentary looks ancient. When was it produced, the late 90’s?
I imagine there might be more to this than any of us know.
Now it's the UN that people need to watch and be worried of.
YES! THANKS!!!
Yeah, the UN is so influential. It’s really something to worry about.
After the 30 years war many people came to America for freedom of religion. They had seen nothing but death and incarceration. Thanks for your shows.
"freedom" of religion but killing the american people in gods name, ironical :D
Came to watch a video on the 30 years war and I get Pope Alexander VI ? Wtf?
The lead-up to the 30 years War was important. Europe of.the period was a mess.
The corruption of the church went into retard mode under the Borgia pope - Alexander VI
Oh I bet some folks in Amsterdam didn't have it all that bad 🌷
"War, famine, plague...Yes, very sad. Anyway, let us go and monetize this tragedy." - Dutch merchants
This is an interesting comparison to fiction:
*1632* by Eric Flint
Too many ads.
Fighting over Jesus who advocated love and peace is one of the most idiotic events ever.
In my opinion believing in Jesus is one of the most idiotic events ever. 🙌 God is within us all from birth, no need for a middle man/Jesus to connect to what is already within ourselves.
Would love to debate this topic because it's utterly nonsensical.
@@timothyriehm5967 And that was exactly the basis of the Reformation! As well as the birth of the Church of England. Tho with other motivations that drove the King of England, Henry VIII, to break with the Rome, at the time.
But whether you agree with it or not, you hit the nail on the head!
@@timothyriehm5967 the difference between belief and knowledge cannot be bridged with logic.
@@timothyriehm5967 that nonsense is the basis for every false religion---the idea that man can save himself.
@@Jane20121985 There is more evidence for man being able to save himself than there is for a deity being able too. Nowhere in observable nature can you see God stepping in, not for the animals getting ripped to shreds by lions and eaten alive on a daily basis. I promise humans are no different. If a 5 year old walked off of a cliff in the middle of nowhere with Noone around. What would happen? 😳 God is not saving anyone not now or ever. You better take responsibility for your life instead of having an escape goat to blame for the mess we make for ourselves. We create our own future as we go along. Believe that.
This war simultaneously happened during another large scale war that had a higher death toll. Transition From Ming to Qing (1618-1683) which claimed around 25 million lives.
True, not many talk about it.
We need to learn more about the history of other continents and cultures. Thanks for your information.
@@Celisar1 If your interested in another Chinese wars. This was one of the Strangest wars and it is also the deadliest civil war in human history. Taiping Rebellion 1850-1864. It was started by a Christian cult, the man proclaimed to be the brother of Jesus Christ. He and his cult conquer most of southern china. The Taipings made their own cities and created their own currency. The war claimed around 20 million to 30 million people lives.
Climate Change in a helluva drug.
All that to change one letter...
And Luther added the word 'alone' to his bible when the word was not there.
Sorry to say, but the bible bashes tradition more than scripture.
Leviathan was a great read but I'll pass on absolutism. Look what it brought about.
Croat calvary served french king at the time, and were most feared along hussars in europe
What's the name of the movie of wich scenes are shown here?
Yes, I want to know, too. The only 30 Years War movie I know is "The Last Valley" and those scenes are not from that.
The defenestration in 1618 was the 3rd. Not the 2nd. 😊 Our little Czech tradition 😂😂
Today, just as yesterday, murder for money is still a profession. There is never a shortage of goons, and scum of the earth doesn't begin to describe them.
Europe's Bloodiest conflict was WW2 surely?
reupload?
Thin red line?
"He doesnt want a reformation, he just wishes to reform"
Turns out I had been wrong all these years...
It means the same thing
My mother baptized me Protestant and Catholic I'm trying to figure out why. She was born in Hungary.
What about the eighty years war :1568- 1648
Henry the 8th wanted an annulment, not a divorce..
Same thing
@@kurtmews3688 No.
@@kurtmews3688 It really, really isn't. Divorce is ending a marriage. Annulment is declaring that the marriage _had never actually existed,_ because it was invalid in some way- in Henry's case, because Catherine was his brother's widow. An annulment could (it's complex) make the children of the marriage illegitimate, since their parents hadn't actually been legally married, & Henry did declare his & Catherine's daughter Mary illegitimate.
It is a shame but u can see where he can from -
Wait....1522 magellan proved the earth was round lol ? Except that was common knowledge for a Couple millennia by then lol . Theres way more flat earthers now then in last severak hundred years lol
Exactamundo! That the earth was round was common knowledge. No one debated that.
I watched the other two videos from this series, they are alright but you have to take them for what they are. Explaining The Thirty Years War in 27 minutes, let’s just say it is what it is
It was assumed to be round, but no one had circumnavigated the globe to prove it.
It was not assumed. It was proven mathematically. By using obelisks in 2 seperate places and measuring the shadow the ancient greeks had the size accurately predicted. In fact colombus mistake was believing the earth was much smaller and everyone rightfully called him an idiot.
@@patrickols that is a solid point
How can you learn anything when you constantly break for commercials and adds!
Many combatants were mercenaries, but the Swedish crown did recruit a large part of its army, including its cavalry, from free peasants (no serfdom in the Kingdom of Sweden) as a form of taxation. These soldiers were as brutal as the mercenaries were, though.
Johan Tilly?
I decided by the age of 14 that I couldn't believe in a divine power that played humans like a chess game or marionettes. My parents made sure I attended Sunday school and sang in the various levels of youth choirs at our Protestant church, but the more I read and heard, the more skeptical I became. Fighting over who is "right" about religion is as ridiculous as arguing how many angels dance on the top of a pin.
I used to be skeptical about God just like you. Search Randy Kay here on RUclips and listen to all of the testimonies about people that died and then saw and experienced Heaven and Hell. The interesting part is they all describe both Heaven and Hell with the same details. After listening to all of these testimonies of people dying, there's no doubt in my mind that we all have a soul and spirit. There is another world outside our own mortal bodies and it's never ending.
@@andynonimuss6298 The brain releases a chemical called Dimethyltryptamine that makes you hallucinate when you are dying. That is the reason that people have trips where they "see heaven" when they die and are resuscitated.
I think the vast majority of religious people in this day and age know that God isnt real. The only reason they continue to attend church and say their prayers is because they are terrified of hell. They are so scared of hell that it over rides logic and reason. They think "but WHAT IF God is real? I dont want to burn in hell for all eternity." So they figure they might as well go to church on Sundays, just in case.
@@andynonimuss6298 fallacy of personal experience.
I think it was good that your parents taught you the language of religion so you could make an educated decision. I chose to practice Christianity, but I will respect my children's decision, whatever it may be.
Prague Defenestration...That means We gonna throw you out the window Hans, doesn't it?
I think an important detail is that all the guys out of the window left the scene on foot.
How horrifying that after the 30 years war the conclusion that secular law and even totalitarianism is how to govern the state. Yes, separation of church and state is important as well as balance of power is good and important. What is key is that the leadership as well as the population respect Universal Morality.
German Profs with a Doctorate get upset if don't refer to them in formal correspondence as Herr Dokter Professor.
Actually, the correct way of addressing someone in a letter/ mail is „Frau/ Herr Professor [family name]“.
Only when introducing someone in writing like here you give both titles (in this case it is: “Frau/ Herr Professor Doktor [family name]”.
Btw: thinking solely of men as professors is called androcentrism.
@@Celisar1 Thanks, point well taken.
All roads lead to that old scarlet harlot of Rome.
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"Magellen proved the world was round." The Greeks had proven that 1800 years before then.
It would be great if you lowered the volume of the people you are speaking over.
What is the price of the ancient Germans could be really cruel Gabrielle brutal in war what is shock
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Luther DID nail the 95 Thesis to the door. It was written in Latin because they was meant to be debated amongst Biblical scholars.
No idea why this is done by Chronicle. The 17th century is not medieval.
that's what happens when demons infiltrate an institution. terrible, it is much worse today.
Classic protestant world view.
1620 the battle of White Mountain was the end of Bohemia. The catholic repercussions were severe. Rich and influential people were executed in the better case exiled and never came back. Bohemia never recovered.
Why does this video contain 10 minutes in which the Thirty Years War is not covered ? Lack of Focus. Also, this topic lies outside the Middle Ages.
This entire video is full of errors.
"Magellan prooved that earth was round" this alone is enough for me not to watch more
Wow the accusations already this is weird.
after life. its dark and no soul or body. imagine waisting a life on bs like wars.
Gruesome but enlightening.
pretty sure the ice age was Europe's biggest tragedy, you know, mostly covered with a couple of kilometers of ice where maybe some hardy bacteria live but not a lot of things that use legs.
What states that exist now were affected by it)
@@GranSinderesis all of them. they are all dealing with the geography left from the ice age. but states have only existed for a few thousand years compared to the 100,000 or more without them, so for most humans who existed, they were not a concern.
Yes and what about the 60 million plus who dies in the 20th century at the hands of political tyrants?? Seems evil is evil. Atheistic anti-god tyrants perpetrated even worse crimes.
@@blumusik9572 you reactionaries are always gonna say "hey someone else was bad too, so our sins should not be examined" and it's just another sin to act that way.
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Perhaps you misunderstood. I actually was trying to show agreement with you. This doc is obviously anti- religious trying to exaggerate these wars as the worst death toll catastrophe for Europe. I think the ice age as you pointed out and the world wars were far greater disasters for the European continent. Thats all I meant.
I’ve tried 2-3 books on 30 years war but god it was complicated
Why don't we give credit also to Henry the 8th Queen Elizabeth during her Reign she found balance as well so she deserves some credit
He is given credit. He's known as one of England's greatest kings and the turdors are extensively covered in school
England will return to Catholicism 🏴🇬🇧
Spain and the habsburgs had to win, this could've saved millions of lives in coming years, could've avoided the mistake of french revolution, enlightment and modern republics. The protestsnt reformation was the first attack against a free civilization because protestants relativized morality.
The catholic church is the most immoral institution in history and it's not even particularly close. Its history of promoting supremacism, genocide, murder, slavery and of course enriching itself by its alliances with feudal lords and absolute monarchs against the people. The catholic church has consistently stood against the people and for the elites and has directly and indirectly caused unprecedented suffering and 100+ million deaths including massive genocides in the Americas as well as near endless wars in Europe (from the end of the western Roman Empire to the height of the colonial era).
spain didn't have the demographic strength to fight France for long
Fastinating how almost every aspect in and around the 1600s are now repeating.
Martin Luther called out the lies of the Catholic Church. That was his mission you have to read his thesis to know what you are talking about.
At least in Europe they are common knowledge
Let's not forget though who actually invented the movable type, the Chinese
Gunpowder too. But who changed the world with these inventions...
The Chinese also invented movies and avocado toast
@@therealbs2000 and pasta.
@@christopherlane5238 and lamborghini
Huh? Wrong title
Don’t need religion to access god or Jesus. Just live a good life and don’t listen to the government or mainstream media
Who would have been able to read Luther's theses? anybody in the Renaissance culture. One part of the Renaissance was the influx of Greek texts when the Muslims overran Constantinople in 1453 30 years before Luther's birth. By the time he nailed up his theses, it was popular for royalty to learn Latin for diplomacy and Greek as well. This extended into the wealthy who could support Luther's cause. What's more, translating the Bible into German was a stunt for the burghers. The vast majority of Germans couldn't read at all; mass literacy in German was a product of Luther's Bible and then spread into the peasantry who formed the army of Frederick II. 200 years later.
I watch a lot of history documentaries, and this is probably the worst one. No context to anything. Just bouncing around all over the place without explanation of who’s who.
I couldn't get past the 1st Minute of this. If you Really know this history (of the 30 years war) , it was a Land & Riches Grab by the princes of Europe, determined to take from the Catholic Church everything they could get their hands on. That's it. They were decidedly NOT fighting for any religious reason per se. SO the beginning of this video shows they are biased anti-religious content creators, and are blind to these basic facts about the Christian religion.
Religion is a racket
Endless ads again. Unsubbed.
Advertisement destroys everything. Invent a new means of communication and advertising will render it useless for any other purpose.
F- me if this documentary was any older it would be brown bread
title is wrong
Ya, I have to agree with you
Very good commentary, the blessing of separating church and state, and this was primarily a religious freedom war raged by immoral mercenaries in the name of religion to the harm of many.
Prots come back to the church Jesus founded
Europe just loves fighting. Any excuse to fight
They are of their father 5he devil, for he was a liar and a murderer from the very beginning
Like. A semi adult CARTOON . INSULTS MY COMMON SENSE
. DISGUSTING
Western Europeans were so primitive compared with Poland.
This documentary is quite dated.
This channel is so greedy! So many adverts! One would think the idea is to make cash rather than introduce a new history channel to a new audience. If they are so greedy for cash on RUclips, how avaricious are they going to be once they have us hooked online? No thank you! Watching this has put me right off subscribing to their channel and I am secretly grateful that they tipped their hand here before I forked over a ton of cash on a handful of beans!
Dude there was one ad for their own history network if you just get YT Premium lol
"When two elephants fight, the grass gets trampled." African proverb. I'm not going to get this quote 100%, but: "men never commit evil so gleefully as in the service of a deity". It's Blaise Pascal, who worded it differently, but my version is true to the original thought.
My original thought: religion and guns march hand in hand as the two biggest scourges on Humanity.
Supported by greed.
All wars are either over money..or religion..what's that tell you about the two?
It was over money using religion .
You forgot power.