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  • @k_rinabeena
    @k_rinabeena 2 года назад +213

    "dissatisfied german monk" is definitely the most concise and precise description of martin luther

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 2 года назад +25

      Only if you mistake profound moral and ethical struggles for a mere „dissatisfaction“.

    • @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205
      @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 2 года назад +4

      Do you even know who he was? Doesn’t sound like it.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 2 года назад +3

      @@silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 Ok soyboy

    • @marthaj67
      @marthaj67 Год назад

      @@DogeickBateman 🤡🤡🤡

    • @ianclews8556
      @ianclews8556 Год назад

      you missed the point completly . it was the printting press. the fact that the masses could read a book for themsself . till then it was controled by the church/ Faith was used. used for power and wealth. the Masses startted to think for themself and they didnt like what they were seeing . like wise the church didnt like the lose of power that came from people being able to read the bible for themself .
      Also the swess were known at that TIME , to be a fightting block of people who fought for money not belieth? damed if i can find the right spelling for that word when a person beleaves in something belief's ? it will come to me when i stop thinking about it , it always dose !

  • @dylanhealy8126
    @dylanhealy8126 6 месяцев назад +42

    “Bloodiest conflict Europe has ever known.”
    WW1 and WW2: Are we a joke to you?

    • @lewismass4320
      @lewismass4320 5 месяцев назад +22

      Germany lost literally half of their population in this war

    • @wfcoaker1398
      @wfcoaker1398 5 месяцев назад +12

      "Up to that point"

    • @dylanhealy8126
      @dylanhealy8126 5 месяцев назад

      @@lewismass4320 Half? It was 20-40% at most, not entirely 50%. And how populated was Germany and how much of the world population did they represent?
      30 Years War killed about 30% of EUROPES population
      WW1 killed about 1%, and WW2 killing almost 3% of the WORLDS population….

    • @ThortYT
      @ThortYT 4 месяца назад +7

      A couple years after WW2 there was a survey done among germans. Even after both world wars... the 30 years war was ranked as the most horrific from their perspective.

    • @AmberHeard-oc5uz
      @AmberHeard-oc5uz 3 месяца назад

      "This would make the Thirty Years War the deadliest event ever to hit Germany, killing more Germans than the two world wars combined."
      Atrocitology: Humanity's 100 Deadliest Achievements by Matthew White
      "Thirty Years War is labelled a war of religion, a war between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants...The result achieved, after thirty years fighting, during which some fifteen million people perished"
      Advance to Barbarism by F. J. P. Veale · 2018
      Herbert Langer in The Thirty Yearsʼ War, says that more than one quarter of Europeʼs population died as a result of those thirty years of slaughter
      According to "Colin McEvedy Atlas of World Population History 1978" the world population in 1600 was 545 million

  • @markgreen1878
    @markgreen1878 2 года назад +267

    The narrator said that Magellan sailed to prove the world was round. That is a false statement. Like many others, he already knew the world was round. He set sail to find a way to get to the so-called Spice Islands.

    • @scottpope-rg5sg
      @scottpope-rg5sg Год назад +6

      Because of the Vikings, they knew there was a vast continent west of Europe! Long before Columbus set sail

    • @αστρον
      @αστρον Год назад +29

      ​@Scott Pope nah even the ancient Greeks had already discovered that the earth was round.

    • @eacha1399
      @eacha1399 Год назад +11

      @@scottpope-rg5sg The knowledge of the Danes(Vikings) was lost(as they only had a few forestry camps), as well with the Chinese, Russians and potentially even(but unlikely) the Carthaginians, which is why we say Columbus discovered America, as he rediscovered America and made the knowledge "mainstream"

    • @francisebbecke2727
      @francisebbecke2727 Год назад +2

      One of his sailors was named Penguin and the bird was named after him.

    • @AceSoprano18
      @AceSoprano18 11 месяцев назад

      It also doesn't prove that the world is spherical any more than walking around your living room in a circle makes it a sphere.

  • @steveclapper5424
    @steveclapper5424 9 месяцев назад +83

    That there is a word for throwing someone out of a window is nuts.

    • @gedrooney9305
      @gedrooney9305 8 месяцев назад

      It’s a real PANE in the ass..

    • @kevinjohnson-lf3kj
      @kevinjohnson-lf3kj 8 месяцев назад +6

      Just to see if they could Fly !!!

    • @fado792
      @fado792 8 месяцев назад

      Putin knows the Russian word.

    • @marianmatiasko9856
      @marianmatiasko9856 8 месяцев назад +1

      It was kind of a public political violent act happening in many civilisations through out the history. Usually caused by a angry mass of people. Thats why it has name. But i liked your comment, actually you are right,its absurd

    • @charlespeterson348
      @charlespeterson348 8 месяцев назад +2

      Defenster, Fenster is German for window

  • @josron6088
    @josron6088 8 месяцев назад +23

    Here in the states the founding fathers were way ahead of their time.They saw all the madness happening in Europe and tried to prevent that from happening here in America. (Separation of church and state, religious freedom). Watching this segment explains why most Americans are of German descent. (Fleeing religious wars in Europe).

    • @robertsouth6971
      @robertsouth6971 8 месяцев назад +7

      The 30 years war was before American independence. But yes, clearly the building of American ways was influenced by the memory.

    • @PhilipBaker-sf4yv
      @PhilipBaker-sf4yv 8 месяцев назад

      So how is it you speak English rather than German in your fast fading empire?

    • @paganofthenorth448
      @paganofthenorth448 8 месяцев назад

      @@PhilipBaker-sf4yvAssimilation, ye emperor of dolts and fools.

    • @marymutou4977
      @marymutou4977 7 месяцев назад

      Yes the fouding father
      Who half of them were born in england or had english parents
      The country that was busy with it’s own civil war when the 30 years war happend

    • @sebastiangruenfeld141
      @sebastiangruenfeld141 7 месяцев назад +1

      1. What madness happening in Europe? American independence happened a solid 140 years AFTER the 30 years war and after the 30 years war, there were no religious wars in Europe.
      2. Most Americans are of British descent.
      3. When Germans immigrated they didn't flee religious wars in Europe because a) there weren't any religious wars at that time and b) they immigrated because of better opportunities abroad.

  • @kathrynkildow3743
    @kathrynkildow3743 2 года назад +6

    Yes, if you argue too much about religion, you get so you can’t see the forest for the trees! I’m a Christian, a Jesus follower. I believe I have free will and I choose to put my faith in Him.

  • @dvas2686
    @dvas2686 8 месяцев назад +72

    How do you have a video on the Thirty Year's War, which started in Prague in 1618 with the Defenestration of Prague, and not mention the centuries long resistance of Roman Catholicism in Bohemia starting with the first church reformer, Catholic priest Jan Huss, who questioned church corruption, indulgences, etc. and was burned at the stake for heresy at the council of Constance, which led to the subsequent Hussite wars which defeated multiple Papal crusades.

    • @peterkratoska4524
      @peterkratoska4524 8 месяцев назад +6

      And even a Hussite King Jiřík z Poděbrad. You saved me the trouble of watching this.

    • @SylvesterReport
      @SylvesterReport 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, my thoughts too

    • @Person0fColor
      @Person0fColor 7 месяцев назад +2

      dood anyone who knows anything knows that already seriously chill out. Hell Peter Wilson's "the 30 years war" didnt really cover it as much as well and just like this doc made more of a point to start the story ending the interconfessional conflicts than the conflicts themselves IE. "The Peace of Augsburg" and what at the time seemed like solutions were actually leading toward a more deadly complex conflict down the road.

  • @ZlejChleba
    @ZlejChleba 9 месяцев назад +29

    11:03 it was the third defenestration of Prague, but hey, who's counting :)

    • @Person0fColor
      @Person0fColor 7 месяцев назад +2

      1419, 1483, 1618 and an unofficial one in 1948, but right who is counting LOLz

    • @casper_z1259
      @casper_z1259 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Czechs

  • @carolineleiden
    @carolineleiden 2 года назад +10

    Well, now I feel a lot better about what is coming. Humanity has been through a lot and we always survived as a species.

    • @carolineleiden
      @carolineleiden 2 года назад +1

      @Atropus Arbaalish We have had six mass extinction events since Earth started. Life bounced back. It was only the last time that we humans came around.
      We'll see what happens after the coming mass extinction. Who knows what creatures will populate the planet. But the planet will always bounce back.
      We had our chance. We blew it.

    • @christopherlane5238
      @christopherlane5238 2 года назад +1

      We are the only species that can self-extinct. So dont let your guard down.

    • @uwusmolbean
      @uwusmolbean 2 года назад +1

      The human cockroach needs to be eradicated

    • @neilaleksandrov2655
      @neilaleksandrov2655 Год назад

      This is comfort that now it all must end, all we have been through all the evil and the suffering

    • @rivertonhigh-v4t
      @rivertonhigh-v4t Месяц назад

      @@uwusmolbean Not problem. Humans are "biting the hand that feeds them" and "killing the goose that lays the golden egg."

  • @herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513
    @herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 2 года назад +38

    Some of my ancestors were Swiss mercenaries and their decedents still live in the low countries. My direct ancestor left St Gallen in Switzerland in 1649 with two other brothers and went to Schönau near Heidelberg 👌

    • @D-E-S_8559
      @D-E-S_8559 2 года назад

      "[the Papal legate ordered the death of the city's residents.]"
      THE PURGE OF EUROPEAN ANCESTRY MOORS, AFRICANS AND MUSLIMS at the --- those that had sought shelter and refuge from the reconquista's crusades of expulsions, forced conversions and inquisitions, this are the actions of the Catholic church in Europe that finally cemented racism, as we understand it today, since it directly led to colonialism and enslavement ...

    • @POTATOSOOPS
      @POTATOSOOPS 2 года назад +1

      L

    • @herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513
      @herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 2 года назад +1

      👍

  • @leadingauctions8440
    @leadingauctions8440 2 года назад +37

    Excellent documentary.

    • @Tony_Fot
      @Tony_Fot 2 года назад +3

      by excellent i think you mean sucky. this is a docu drama, not a documentary.

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 2 года назад +7

      @@Tony_Fot seriously wtf. It's a documentary. Stop gatekeeping.

    • @rivertonhigh-v4t
      @rivertonhigh-v4t Месяц назад

      @@Tony_Fot You're confusion this with the movie _Cromwell._

  • @user-lo2cu1cx8g
    @user-lo2cu1cx8g 8 месяцев назад +13

    The Reformation was at its core about freedom - the freedom to have a personal relationship with God derived directly from the Bible rather than having to go through human interlocutors.

    • @therac197
      @therac197 7 месяцев назад +6

      "the freedom to have a personal relationship with God "
      Wrong it was about the freedom of the princes to do the f they wanted.

    • @MrGunnar69
      @MrGunnar69 5 месяцев назад +3

      Swedes who held Mass at home were accused of heresy and were exiled to the New World right up to the middle of the 19th century. Many of the Swedes who ended up in the New World were religious refugees.
      In order to have a position within the Swedish state, one had to be a member of the Swedish Lutheran Church right up until 1952.
      You had freedom of religion as long as you chose the right religion.

    • @therobro5089
      @therobro5089 Месяц назад

      No it was for the HRE princes to grab the church money for themselves so they could build a few more castle or buy some mercenaries

  • @abeddani992
    @abeddani992 5 месяцев назад +1

    such docos...where one can find like them..such emphatic analysis and not only listing of facts❤❤

  • @samhell3524
    @samhell3524 Год назад +17

    Reading these comments it's comforting to know that disagreement over the interpretation of events is still alive and well then it was over religious doctrine these days it's over historical revisionism and language...is the 30 years war part II on the horizon?

    • @Jakeurb8ty82
      @Jakeurb8ty82 Год назад +4

      that was ww1 and 2

    • @MagMar-kv9ne
      @MagMar-kv9ne 8 месяцев назад

      @@Jakeurb8ty82 yeah some historians claim that.

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 8 месяцев назад

      The border wars are next. Countries will reclaim control of their national borders and begin mass deportations.
      There will be a lot of resistance, which will likely lead to violence.

  • @jtnachtlauf1961
    @jtnachtlauf1961 8 месяцев назад +5

    The defenestration in 1618 was the 3rd. Not the 2nd. 😊 Our little Czech tradition 😂😂

  • @gedrooney9305
    @gedrooney9305 8 месяцев назад +10

    Martin Luther wanted nothing more than a strong cup of coffee

    • @SomeBody-rm6hf
      @SomeBody-rm6hf 8 месяцев назад +3

      And a massacre of peasants, according to his own words.

    • @ulrichbehnke9656
      @ulrichbehnke9656 8 месяцев назад

      So what have we here? Catholic Trolls? PopeBots?
      Ridiculous - most contemporary humans were bored of the Catholic Church:
      Priests living shamelessly in luxus, sleeping with women.
      A Borgia-Pope who got the title with corruption.
      Noblemen „buying“ bishop-titles for there 12-year old kids.
      Nobleman who betrayed and slaughtered civilians and payed the church money to get an „Absolution“.
      Bloody inquisition in all European countries for the purpose of control society with a terror-regime.
      No allowance to translate the Bible from Latin to European languages ….

  • @joseabad9416
    @joseabad9416 2 года назад +24

    Magellan died in the Philippines, around half way the entire planned trip. I wonder how come he ever demonstrated something he never accomplished. His second in command Juan Sebastian Elcano was the one finishing the entire circumvallation. Also Magellan, in order to have his trip financed by the Spanish/Castilian crown, had to be naturalized as Castilian and his name changed to Fernando Magallanes. Gee, it's history, right up your alley.

    • @j.yumuraj2880
      @j.yumuraj2880 Год назад +4

      Magellan was the mastermind of the first global circumnavigation and will always be remembered for it. Elcano finished it, but the trip would never have happened without Magellan.

    • @joseabad9416
      @joseabad9416 Год назад +2

      @@j.yumuraj2880 it was possible to happen because he got backed up by the crown of Castile (and had to become naturalized in the process, meaning he was a Spanish subject at the time he did it, no matter where he was born at) otherwise it would have not happened at all. He didn't seem to have much control over it anyway and his own belief that he was better than anyone else, was his final demise too.

    • @j.yumuraj2880
      @j.yumuraj2880 Год назад +4

      a) Nobody really cares about the naturalization. He was Portuguese, working on Spain’s behalf. That’s how his men saw him, that’s how he saw himself.
      b) He’s an important historical figure regardless of whether he died on the voyage. Nobody else at the time was daring enough to attempt circumnavigation, and Elcano (who attempted a failed coup halfway through the journey btw) couldn’t have planned the trip, or navigated the uncharted portions of it.

    • @joseabad9416
      @joseabad9416 Год назад +2

      @@j.yumuraj2880 Magellan in Portugal couldn't have done anything, they didn't want him there, that's why he had to become a Spaniard, You say ElCano, couldn't have done it? How did he ended completing the voyage then? I mean it was half a way, it's not like Magellan came any closer to finish it at all. Magellan made a free ride without almost any opposition, it was ElCano who had to take the rest of the trip avoiding conflict with anyone in their way, far from the open sea the Pacifc ocean was. It would have been easier for him to come back from where he came, yet he continued the trip. You're just puking dumb stuff. If ElCano never went back and told the story, no one would even know Magellan got all the way to where he did and he would have been totally irrelevant.
      Same way Verner Von Braun, couldn't have further his scientific developments without financial support and American nationality, no matter if he was born in Germany. Stop drinking, it's clouding your reasoning.

    • @j.yumuraj2880
      @j.yumuraj2880 Год назад +4

      @@joseabad9416by the time Elcano took over the voyage, they were no longer in uncharted territory. Magellan found the Strait of Magellan, Magellan crossed the Pacific. Most of the rest of the journey had already been traveled by Europeans. Elcano was not a navigator, and didn’t plan the journey. This is an incredibly strange argument you are making, but I think it’s because you’re Filipino and you don’t want to give credit to Magellan. Regardless, Magellan is remembered as the one who accomplished the feat, and rightfully so. Goodbye.

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 2 года назад +3

    This is one of those series I would like to see all in one video lolol

  • @MrMarcodarko
    @MrMarcodarko Год назад +21

    I was 8 years old during the reformation

  • @erikriza7165
    @erikriza7165 9 месяцев назад +4

    I imagine there might be more to this than any of us know.

  • @kakashi101able
    @kakashi101able 2 года назад +37

    This war simultaneously happened during another large scale war that had a higher death toll. Transition From Ming to Qing (1618-1683) which claimed around 25 million lives.

    • @TheMadGod
      @TheMadGod 2 года назад +3

      True, not many talk about it.

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 2 года назад +6

      We need to learn more about the history of other continents and cultures. Thanks for your information.

    • @kakashi101able
      @kakashi101able 2 года назад

      @@Celisar1 If your interested in another Chinese wars. This was one of the Strangest wars and it is also the deadliest civil war in human history. Taiping Rebellion 1850-1864. It was started by a Christian cult, the man proclaimed to be the brother of Jesus Christ. He and his cult conquer most of southern china. The Taipings made their own cities and created their own currency. The war claimed around 20 million to 30 million people lives.

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions Год назад

      Climate Change in a helluva drug.

    • @PxThucydides
      @PxThucydides Год назад +10

      All that to change one letter...

  • @cesarbarron8193
    @cesarbarron8193 2 года назад +35

    I follow your videos from Mexico, subtitles would be important for the followers of Latin America.

    • @TM-rk5dj
      @TM-rk5dj 2 года назад +3

      💯

    • @dietlindvonhohenwald448
      @dietlindvonhohenwald448 2 года назад +3

      People from all over the world follow this channel. They can not provide subtitles in all languages and if they only did it for one, it would not be fair. 🤷🏻‍♀️☝🏻
      English is the universal and international language of the world, consider learning it. It is my 2nd language as well btw.

    • @Nightdiver20
      @Nightdiver20 2 года назад +10

      @@dietlindvonhohenwald448 obviously not all languages but it's not like Spanish is some obscure tongue

    • @economicist2011
      @economicist2011 2 года назад +1

      The automatic translation feature works quite well with this video. It's a bit literal in places, but one should be able to understand.
      EDIT: Never mind... whenever there's someone speaking German with simultaneous translation to English, the automatic subtitles stop working and thus there aren't even English subtitles.

  • @bt19841
    @bt19841 8 месяцев назад +11

    Martin Luther “didn’t want a reformation, he only wanted to reform.”
    I’m pretty sure that’s the same thing.

    • @DoanDeland
      @DoanDeland 8 месяцев назад +5

      No. It is not. Nuanced thought is required.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard 8 месяцев назад

      sure, if you're a smallbrain

    • @bt19841
      @bt19841 8 месяцев назад +3

      You’re both wrong.
      Maybe if it said, “Martin Luther didn’t want THE reformation, he only wished to reform” you would have a point - but it doesn’t, so you don’t.

  • @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104
    @jeremywvarietyofviewpoints3104 9 месяцев назад +8

    To reform is to have a reformation. did you mean he didn't want a revolution or a rebellion?

    • @ulrichbehnke9656
      @ulrichbehnke9656 8 месяцев назад

      Luther wanted to reform the church.
      And he was not alone - the idea was ripe that the contemporary church was corrupted by Luxus and achievement of absolute power. Bishops, Cardinals and even the Pope got their titles through buying it - and ruling areas like kings - no separation of religion and government and jurisdiction.
      Luther was no Revolutionary but it happened that his upstanding against the established system evoked the German peasant-revolt of 1525.
      This turned soon into a bloody civil-war.
      Luther was disgusted by the violence and took side with the noblemen that this had to end.
      But then he was later shocked when the peasants were all slaughtered brutally.

  • @jackielangevin
    @jackielangevin Месяц назад +1

    Good documentary

  • @cw4608
    @cw4608 2 года назад +438

    Fighting over Jesus who advocated love and peace is one of the most idiotic events ever.

    • @timothyriehm5967
      @timothyriehm5967 2 года назад +42

      In my opinion believing in Jesus is one of the most idiotic events ever. 🙌 God is within us all from birth, no need for a middle man/Jesus to connect to what is already within ourselves.
      Would love to debate this topic because it's utterly nonsensical.

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad 2 года назад +12

      @@timothyriehm5967 And that was exactly the basis of the Reformation! As well as the birth of the Church of England. Tho with other motivations that drove the King of England, Henry VIII, to break with the Rome, at the time.
      But whether you agree with it or not, you hit the nail on the head!

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 2 года назад +26

      @@timothyriehm5967 the difference between belief and knowledge cannot be bridged with logic.

    • @Jane20121985
      @Jane20121985 2 года назад +33

      @@timothyriehm5967 that nonsense is the basis for every false religion---the idea that man can save himself.

    • @timothyriehm5967
      @timothyriehm5967 2 года назад

      @@Jane20121985 There is more evidence for man being able to save himself than there is for a deity being able too. Nowhere in observable nature can you see God stepping in, not for the animals getting ripped to shreds by lions and eaten alive on a daily basis. I promise humans are no different. If a 5 year old walked off of a cliff in the middle of nowhere with Noone around. What would happen? 😳 God is not saving anyone not now or ever. You better take responsibility for your life instead of having an escape goat to blame for the mess we make for ourselves. We create our own future as we go along. Believe that.

  • @3coins.
    @3coins. Год назад +9

    After the 30 years war many people came to America for freedom of religion. They had seen nothing but death and incarceration. Thanks for your shows.

    • @lukas-3120
      @lukas-3120 Год назад

      "freedom" of religion but killing the american people in gods name, ironical :D

  • @GoGreen1977
    @GoGreen1977 2 года назад +88

    I decided by the age of 14 that I couldn't believe in a divine power that played humans like a chess game or marionettes. My parents made sure I attended Sunday school and sang in the various levels of youth choirs at our Protestant church, but the more I read and heard, the more skeptical I became. Fighting over who is "right" about religion is as ridiculous as arguing how many angels dance on the top of a pin.

    • @andynonimuss6298
      @andynonimuss6298 2 года назад +7

      I used to be skeptical about God just like you. Search Randy Kay here on RUclips and listen to all of the testimonies about people that died and then saw and experienced Heaven and Hell. The interesting part is they all describe both Heaven and Hell with the same details. After listening to all of these testimonies of people dying, there's no doubt in my mind that we all have a soul and spirit. There is another world outside our own mortal bodies and it's never ending.

    • @chrisjansen1943
      @chrisjansen1943 2 года назад

      @@andynonimuss6298 The brain releases a chemical called Dimethyltryptamine that makes you hallucinate when you are dying. That is the reason that people have trips where they "see heaven" when they die and are resuscitated.

    • @signoguns8501
      @signoguns8501 2 года назад +17

      I think the vast majority of religious people in this day and age know that God isnt real. The only reason they continue to attend church and say their prayers is because they are terrified of hell. They are so scared of hell that it over rides logic and reason. They think "but WHAT IF God is real? I dont want to burn in hell for all eternity." So they figure they might as well go to church on Sundays, just in case.

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад +12

      @@andynonimuss6298 fallacy of personal experience.

    • @ronlussier8570
      @ronlussier8570 2 года назад +6

      I think it was good that your parents taught you the language of religion so you could make an educated decision. I chose to practice Christianity, but I will respect my children's decision, whatever it may be.

  • @mikecain6947
    @mikecain6947 11 месяцев назад +7

    Henry the 8th wanted an annulment, not a divorce..

    • @kurtmews3688
      @kurtmews3688 8 месяцев назад

      Same thing

    • @mikecain6947
      @mikecain6947 8 месяцев назад

      @@kurtmews3688 No.

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@kurtmews3688 It really, really isn't. Divorce is ending a marriage. Annulment is declaring that the marriage _had never actually existed,_ because it was invalid in some way- in Henry's case, because Catherine was his brother's widow. An annulment could (it's complex) make the children of the marriage illegitimate, since their parents hadn't actually been legally married, & Henry did declare his & Catherine's daughter Mary illegitimate.

    • @sebastiangruenfeld141
      @sebastiangruenfeld141 7 месяцев назад

      yeah this "documentary" is very simplistic. Didn't even mention that Henry VIII was allied to Charles V in the hopes of Charles persuading the pope to annul the marriage...

    • @mikecain6947
      @mikecain6947 6 месяцев назад

      @@kurtmews3688 no, not quite

  • @elorani1714
    @elorani1714 2 года назад +9

    Is the music the soundtrack from Thin Red Line?

    • @markd523
      @markd523 9 месяцев назад

      I’m pretty sure that it is

  • @drneeel
    @drneeel 5 месяцев назад +1

    This isn't a documentary on the 30 years war. It is a bad faith essay.

  • @kelseylogas1580
    @kelseylogas1580 Год назад +36

    Saying Magellan proved the world is round just makes you question the validity of this otherwise great documentary. The Ancient Greeks knew it was round for goodness sake, and the Vikings knew there was something West of Britain. Credibility matters, and one offhand comment can call the whole into question.

    • @schmarotzer85
      @schmarotzer85 Год назад +5

      The greeks knew that but did they prove this in practice?

    • @thisisobviouslynotmyrealname
      @thisisobviouslynotmyrealname 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@schmarotzer85 yes, the greeks proved it, using mathematics. You dont have to navigate the world to prove the world is round, the same way you dont have to travel to the Sun to prove what the distance from earth to sun is, or travel back in time to prove how old the earth is

    • @dangerousdave85
      @dangerousdave85 9 месяцев назад +2

      Think it was a poorly framed phrase to mean 'they circumnavigated the world's. But general agree a stray word or fact like that can really undermine otherwise great work

    • @reynoldtanto4853
      @reynoldtanto4853 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealnamedis u mean Archimedes maybe ever sailed to weat after that.and meet america and goes back to asia? Prove them to the world and we're about to get u an award🔥🤣🔥🔥🔥

    • @terryyakamoto3488
      @terryyakamoto3488 8 месяцев назад

      @@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname There's a difference between rational, ie, mathematical proof and empirical proof. Please see Zeno's paradox that proves a Ferrari cannot overtake a pedestrian with a head start

  • @visvirtutis8441
    @visvirtutis8441 6 месяцев назад +1

    For the american audience the most interesting lesson from the 30 years war could be to understand its quasi-apocalyptic nature as key for the history of mentality of Europe and especially central Europe, that is mostly modern Germany and Czechia.

  • @marybeasley8219
    @marybeasley8219 2 года назад +8

    Ausgezeichnet!

  • @Philip-bk2dm
    @Philip-bk2dm 2 года назад +4

    Today, just as yesterday, murder for money is still a profession. There is never a shortage of goons, and scum of the earth doesn't begin to describe them.

  • @stephenwodz7593
    @stephenwodz7593 8 месяцев назад +1

    "Magellen proved the world was round." The Greeks had proven that 1800 years before then.

    • @Casual93
      @Casual93 8 месяцев назад

      Really?

  • @jamesjoshua3288
    @jamesjoshua3288 8 месяцев назад +10

    Europe’s bloodiest conflict? I don’t know about that one..

    • @fleecejohnsonn
      @fleecejohnsonn 8 месяцев назад +3

      In terms of death rates comparable to the world population, it was comparable to WW2.

    • @hencytjoe
      @hencytjoe 8 месяцев назад

      @@fleecejohnsonn death per capita

    • @kayvan671
      @kayvan671 7 месяцев назад +3

      In terms of death rate, it was.

    • @2cool4fluoride
      @2cool4fluoride 7 месяцев назад +2

      Proportionate to its population it is.

  • @davidtownsend6092
    @davidtownsend6092 2 года назад +35

    Wait....1522 magellan proved the earth was round lol ? Except that was common knowledge for a Couple millennia by then lol . Theres way more flat earthers now then in last severak hundred years lol

    • @dr.barrycohn5461
      @dr.barrycohn5461 2 года назад +8

      Exactamundo! That the earth was round was common knowledge. No one debated that.

    • @patrickols
      @patrickols 2 года назад +4

      I watched the other two videos from this series, they are alright but you have to take them for what they are. Explaining The Thirty Years War in 27 minutes, let’s just say it is what it is

    • @jturtle5318
      @jturtle5318 2 года назад +7

      It was assumed to be round, but no one had circumnavigated the globe to prove it.

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 2 года назад +13

      It was not assumed. It was proven mathematically. By using obelisks in 2 seperate places and measuring the shadow the ancient greeks had the size accurately predicted. In fact colombus mistake was believing the earth was much smaller and everyone rightfully called him an idiot.

    • @davidtownsend6092
      @davidtownsend6092 2 года назад

      @@patrickols that is a solid point

  • @riblanc
    @riblanc 9 месяцев назад +7

    that's what happens when demons infiltrate an institution. terrible, it is much worse today.

  • @derekmanthey8811
    @derekmanthey8811 8 месяцев назад +3

    How can you learn anything when you constantly break for commercials and adds!

  • @Nashandme74
    @Nashandme74 Год назад +2

    Leviathan was a great read but I'll pass on absolutism. Look what it brought about.

  • @gunther4150
    @gunther4150 11 месяцев назад +2

    What's the name of the movie of wich scenes are shown here?

    • @LibrarianBarbarian
      @LibrarianBarbarian 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, I want to know, too. The only 30 Years War movie I know is "The Last Valley" and those scenes are not from that.

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 2 года назад +17

    All roads lead to that old scarlet harlot of Rome.

  • @meriemmeryouma655
    @meriemmeryouma655 4 месяца назад

    The Thirty Years' War (1618-1648): Europe’s bloodiest conflict before the 20th century, the Thirty Years' War involved most of the continent's major powers. Initially sparked by religious tensions between Protestants and Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire, it escalated into a brutal struggle for political dominance. The war devastated Central Europe, with massive civilian casualties, widespread famine, and destruction, ultimately reshaping the continent’s political and religious landscape.

  • @BranDenhauer
    @BranDenhauer 8 месяцев назад +8

    I have never heard totalitarianism of all vile things, spun and woven in such a deceptively positive light. But, against the backdrop of what came before, I must admit that it seems to have been a step in the right direction, may I be forgiven. My distaste for mankind has found yet a deeper pit to rest.

    • @bobsmith3291
      @bobsmith3291 8 месяцев назад +10

      Alright Shakespeare give it a rest

    • @BranDenhauer
      @BranDenhauer 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@bobsmith3291 No

    • @CoastShuttle
      @CoastShuttle 8 месяцев назад +4

      I ran into this narrator at Arby's, he had a double beef melt with fries...

    • @BranDenhauer
      @BranDenhauer 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@CoastShuttle That's deep

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is an interesting comparison to fiction:
    *1632* by Eric Flint

  • @derricklarsen2919
    @derricklarsen2919 8 месяцев назад

    This all sounds really sinister and spooky 😊

  • @Octavian7771
    @Octavian7771 21 день назад

    My paternal ancestor left Holstein in 1649, relocating to New Amsterdam in America. I wonder if the 30-years war effected his family, and if it caused his immigration as an indentured servant.

  • @blackcat2628zd
    @blackcat2628zd 8 месяцев назад +1

    1620 the battle of White Mountain was the end of Bohemia. The catholic repercussions were severe. Rich and influential people were executed in the better case exiled and never came back. Bohemia never recovered.

  • @Moribus_Artibus
    @Moribus_Artibus 2 года назад +1

    Oh I bet some folks in Amsterdam didn't have it all that bad 🌷

    • @Itcouldbebunnies
      @Itcouldbebunnies 2 года назад

      "War, famine, plague...Yes, very sad. Anyway, let us go and monetize this tragedy." - Dutch merchants

  • @yvettegonzalez9159
    @yvettegonzalez9159 2 года назад +4

    Too many ads.

  • @gpwnedable
    @gpwnedable 7 месяцев назад

    New communication technology in the form of the printing press was very destabilizing.
    Now we're leaving through much the same time of the invention of the internet and social media etc.

  • @jimburow706
    @jimburow706 10 месяцев назад

    Luther DID nail the 95 Thesis to the door. It was written in Latin because they was meant to be debated amongst Biblical scholars.

  • @Nicefoolkilla
    @Nicefoolkilla 7 месяцев назад

    it is very interesting history

  • @davidpfromm4405
    @davidpfromm4405 8 месяцев назад +2

    Fastinating how almost every aspect in and around the 1600s are now repeating.

  • @benc640
    @benc640 8 месяцев назад

    This documentary looks ancient. When was it produced, the late 90’s?

    • @mdshaler
      @mdshaler 6 месяцев назад

      Damn. the late '90's is ancient? I watched a documentary about automatons that was made in the '70's about a month ago. It was produced well and since the subject is already 200 years old, it's not as if there's a lot of new knowledge that could be missing, at least with that subject. The 4:3 layout is a giveaway that it is an old TV documentary.

    • @phatlewt2932
      @phatlewt2932 4 месяца назад

      or the early 2000s

  • @Iktius
    @Iktius 7 месяцев назад

    🎶"Killing for religion
    Something I don't understand
    Fools like me, who cross the sea
    And come to foreign lands
    Ask the sheep, for their beliefs
    Do you kill on God's command?" 🎵

  • @njkauto2394
    @njkauto2394 8 месяцев назад +1

    So, nothing's changed. it just got bigger and more stupid.
    “History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme.” Mark Twain.

  • @SpodyOdy
    @SpodyOdy 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just Mortys killing Mortys.

  • @francisebbecke2727
    @francisebbecke2727 Год назад +12

    Luther died in 1546. How come they didn't get around to starting the 30 Years Was until 1618? This was about 70 years later.

    • @ethanpintar5454
      @ethanpintar5454 11 месяцев назад +3

      They had several smaller wars in that span, but the Peace do Augsburg in 1555 settled the issue for at least a time. This was the last War of Religion that ended that period.

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard 8 месяцев назад +2

      things moved a lot more slowely back then

  • @skalar-haubitze1619
    @skalar-haubitze1619 2 года назад

    "He doesnt want a reformation, he just wishes to reform"
    Turns out I had been wrong all these years...

  • @IIIIALBYIIII
    @IIIIALBYIIII 8 месяцев назад +4

    Europe just loves fighting. Any excuse to fight

  • @puntarski8789
    @puntarski8789 9 месяцев назад

    Croat calvary served french king at the time, and were most feared along hussars in europe

  • @sacredgeometryuniverse9552
    @sacredgeometryuniverse9552 11 месяцев назад

    My mother baptized me Protestant and Catholic I'm trying to figure out why. She was born in Hungary.

    • @joecoolberry911
      @joecoolberry911 3 месяца назад

      What matters if you have a relationship with Jesus and are surrendered to Him. Being religious is what throws people off

  • @dadadoedoe9483
    @dadadoedoe9483 6 месяцев назад

    Neuhaus is the principle from Ferris Buelers Day Off

  • @drazenbicanic3590
    @drazenbicanic3590 6 месяцев назад +3

    The view of that war in Central Europe and elsewhere is not the same. We in Croatia (and elsewhere in the Balkans) are more "hurt" by the Ottoman conquests, which were just as cruel, but lasted 10 times longer.

    • @aghileshemdani3144
      @aghileshemdani3144 3 месяца назад

      Funny if you think ottoman were brutal compare to that.

    • @drazenbicanic3590
      @drazenbicanic3590 3 месяца назад

      @@aghileshemdani3144 And what do you know about the Ottoman wars, about the fact that the Ottoman armies penetrated almost every year into Croatia, or through Croatia into Styria, Carinthia, Hungary and similar places, taking away thousands of slaves, leaving hundreds of burnt settlements with murdered inhabitants, who were not good for slaves. This lasted from the middle of the 15th century to the end of the 16th century.
      You from Western Europe always take it upon yourself to be smart about things you have no idea about.

    • @aghileshemdani3144
      @aghileshemdani3144 3 месяца назад

      @@drazenbicanic3590 ..you said no thing that IS brutal compare to that..
      Burning village and taking slave was normal those Time. .you littéraly forget that city of Prague was was full of slave where do you think those slave Come from ?? Not from Africa..
      Your slavic nation were Always slave Stock to Germanic tribes and nation and to roman Empire and Bulgarian Empire.... ottoman are not exception.... ottoman just follow what was normal in those région..

  • @oddball6731
    @oddball6731 9 месяцев назад +8

    Now it's the UN that people need to watch and be worried of.

    • @carmencollor1224
      @carmencollor1224 8 месяцев назад

      YES! THANKS!!!

    • @daveh1869
      @daveh1869 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, the UN is so influential. It’s really something to worry about.

    • @oddball6731
      @oddball6731 8 месяцев назад

      @@daveh1869 Probably a lot more than you're aware of. Look into some of the agendas that they are pushing for.

    • @robertriteman3227
      @robertriteman3227 8 месяцев назад

      The Global Cartel that is a proxy for China, Russia and Iran, Corrupt and complicit

  • @Kookaburger
    @Kookaburger 7 месяцев назад

    Man doesnt need religion to be cruel, religion is merely an excuse...whether it be for money, power, land, family, tribe, nation or God the common denominator in all of this is man

  • @matthewstorer8236
    @matthewstorer8236 2 года назад +8

    Came to watch a video on the 30 years war and I get Pope Alexander VI ? Wtf?

    • @peggybrem2848
      @peggybrem2848 2 года назад +10

      The lead-up to the 30 years War was important. Europe of.the period was a mess.

    • @dindu551
      @dindu551 2 года назад

      The corruption of the church went into retard mode under the Borgia pope - Alexander VI

  • @swanwitchoo8137
    @swanwitchoo8137 7 месяцев назад

    This channel has interesting stuff. I can't watch it though. Too gad damn many ads. It's annoying.

  • @LauriPaltemaa-x1g
    @LauriPaltemaa-x1g 8 месяцев назад

    Many combatants were mercenaries, but the Swedish crown did recruit a large part of its army, including its cavalry, from free peasants (no serfdom in the Kingdom of Sweden) as a form of taxation. These soldiers were as brutal as the mercenaries were, though.

  • @michaelhaywood8262
    @michaelhaywood8262 8 месяцев назад

    Was this the bloodiest war prior to that of 1914-18?

    • @Grenadier311
      @Grenadier311 7 месяцев назад +4

      In Europe, I believe so, especially if measured by deaths per capita (1/3 of Germans dead). It was 30 years of fighting, after all! China and other parts of Asia experienced wars with higher death tolls (Taipeng Rebellion, Mongol atrocities, other Chinese civil wars).

  • @1lyxbollyvykn714
    @1lyxbollyvykn714 Год назад +1

    Spain and the habsburgs had to win, this could've saved millions of lives in coming years, could've avoided the mistake of french revolution, enlightment and modern republics. The protestsnt reformation was the first attack against a free civilization because protestants relativized morality.

    • @TheCrazyCanuck420
      @TheCrazyCanuck420 7 месяцев назад

      A lack of religion would have saved even more lives....

    • @1lyxbollyvykn714
      @1lyxbollyvykn714 7 месяцев назад

      @@TheCrazyCanuck420 communism supported the lack of religion and killed more than 100 million people worldwide, communism again started in germany with karl marx and was only possible because marx took inspiration on french revolution. and french revolution had the conditions to grow and start once europe stopped fighting against the wrongdoing of protestantism.

  • @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205
    @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 2 года назад +4

    Martin Luther called out the lies of the Catholic Church. That was his mission you have to read his thesis to know what you are talking about.

    • @upnorth2421
      @upnorth2421 2 года назад

      At least in Europe they are common knowledge

  • @risin4949
    @risin4949 11 месяцев назад

    No idea why this is done by Chronicle. The 17th century is not medieval.

    • @therac197
      @therac197 7 месяцев назад

      Good question, might explain why it is littered with mistakes.
      Wallenstein for example was not active as a general during the Bohemian phase. He only became that wealthy due to the aftermath of the bohemian phase.
      There also was somewhat a national army with the Imperial Army and the Emperors army.

  • @Willie.Strocker
    @Willie.Strocker 7 месяцев назад +1

    Killing people in the name of Christ. What a joke 😢

  • @chuckybuckets
    @chuckybuckets 2 года назад +6

    channel good . carry on.

  • @ignatiosaraber1993
    @ignatiosaraber1993 7 месяцев назад +1

    In the first minute there is already a lie. The orthodox split up from the Catholic Church. And then the protestants split up from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is not a denomination.

    • @phatlewt2932
      @phatlewt2932 4 месяца назад

      what does that say about the catholic church

  • @lordshell
    @lordshell 8 месяцев назад

    Like always, God was on everyone's side.

  • @paganofthenorth448
    @paganofthenorth448 8 месяцев назад

    What great fun and mischief the mercenary companies must have gotten up to. A sanguine, real life, in contrast to mere existence.

  • @tomaszdrgas8811
    @tomaszdrgas8811 8 месяцев назад

    "Magellan prooved that earth was round" this alone is enough for me not to watch more

  • @Davidbirdman101
    @Davidbirdman101 2 года назад

    reupload?

  • @fado792
    @fado792 8 месяцев назад

    What about the eighty years war :1568- 1648

  • @pearlluber5849
    @pearlluber5849 Год назад +1

    How horrifying that after the 30 years war the conclusion that secular law and even totalitarianism is how to govern the state. Yes, separation of church and state is important as well as balance of power is good and important. What is key is that the leadership as well as the population respect Universal Morality.

  • @Nygaard2
    @Nygaard2 8 месяцев назад

    Why religion should always be a private matter, with no legal or financial rights.

  • @charlesmountney8062
    @charlesmountney8062 8 месяцев назад

    Too many adverts. Turned off at mid point.

  • @tamfuwing1
    @tamfuwing1 2 года назад +4

    Endless ads again. Unsubbed.

    • @NH_RSA__
      @NH_RSA__ 2 года назад

      Advertisement destroys everything. Invent a new means of communication and advertising will render it useless for any other purpose.

  • @5364310gb
    @5364310gb 6 месяцев назад

    The bloodiest conflict that Europe has ever known? Where does ww1 and ww2 rank? Estimated 4.5 million in 30 years war. 20 million and 70 million in ww1 and 2. Even I know which numbers are bigger. Granted that ww1 and ww2 were global conflicts but these wars originated in Europe and killed countless Europeans

    • @gonzalodavidvazquezgonzale5796
      @gonzalodavidvazquezgonzale5796 5 месяцев назад

      Maybe its calculated on the size of the population in that time in europe, compared to ww1 and ww2 the percentage of total population that died was higher. But i know shit, so who knows

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin 3 месяца назад +1

    Geez. Martin Luther was a true believer, this is what made him who he was, not being "just a stubborn monk." It's like saying Martin Luther King Jr was "just a preacher unhappy with his lot in life."

  • @v1e1r1g1e1
    @v1e1r1g1e1 3 дня назад

    Classic example of how rulers and ruthless, ambitious cruel people USE religion to manipulate the masses in order to attain and maintain their power.
    There is nothing in the teachings of Jesus which says ''Hurt people''.

  • @honodle7219
    @honodle7219 8 месяцев назад +2

    "When two elephants fight, the grass gets trampled." African proverb. I'm not going to get this quote 100%, but: "men never commit evil so gleefully as in the service of a deity". It's Blaise Pascal, who worded it differently, but my version is true to the original thought.
    My original thought: religion and guns march hand in hand as the two biggest scourges on Humanity.

  • @camalbert1913
    @camalbert1913 2 года назад +1

    Thin red line?

  • @Chris-o3g2e
    @Chris-o3g2e 2 месяца назад

    Have Citizens of any country declare themselves American.

  • @jennnoseworthy9031
    @jennnoseworthy9031 2 года назад +5

    Why don't we give credit also to Henry the 8th Queen Elizabeth during her Reign she found balance as well so she deserves some credit

    • @lewis123417
      @lewis123417 2 года назад

      He is given credit. He's known as one of England's greatest kings and the turdors are extensively covered in school

    • @croatianwarmaster7872
      @croatianwarmaster7872 Год назад +1

      England will return to Catholicism 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

  • @holeshothunter5544
    @holeshothunter5544 2 года назад

    Prague Defenestration...That means We gonna throw you out the window Hans, doesn't it?

    • @blackcat2628zd
      @blackcat2628zd 8 месяцев назад

      I think an important detail is that all the guys out of the window left the scene on foot.

  • @UpRisingDown
    @UpRisingDown 2 года назад +1

    after life. its dark and no soul or body. imagine waisting a life on bs like wars.

  • @elizabethpotter6189
    @elizabethpotter6189 2 года назад

    It is a shame but u can see where he can from -

  • @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205
    @silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 2 года назад +1

    Wow the accusations already this is weird.

  • @michaelbraun6542
    @michaelbraun6542 8 месяцев назад +1

    Commercial inside is an automatic downvote.

  • @hulakan
    @hulakan 8 месяцев назад

    Lucrezia Borgia "ruled"? What rubbish!