I was just having this thought. I've been a subscriber for many many years. His video's back in these days are still really well produced and great. You can tell he had improved so much these days compared to this video. Here it sounds he's reading a script and you can hear the pauses and stops. In his newer video's there isn't any pauses or anything. The editing has improved so much. Then again, I LOVE the raw factor of his older videos. Just a dude with a passion and lots of knowledge in that passion with a mic. Cheers.
This reminds me when the History Channel used Rome Total War to help explain the order of battle. Ah, the good old History Channel... I very much enjoy your videos, carry on.
@Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus Yeah, decisive battles, they'd mod the shit out of Rome as well, putting so much effort into not only the battles (which are difficult to reenact the way they did it, coming from a long time player) but the behind the scenes bits too, I wish someone did stuff like that
Did you guys watch time commanders? It may have just been a UK thing but if you haven't seen it check it out! Used the Total War engine to fight historical battles with normal people (and some 'celebrities') to control the forces. was really good.
I came back to this video 7 years later oh my, I can totally see the difference in your presentation your speaking and your voice, its been a hell of adventure
This production is terrific for several reasons. The computer power to produce this "movie-like" presentation takes one right into the action. Had there been something similar when I was in school, history would have more thoroughly captured my interest. To realize the extent of military tactics. technology, ship building, and weapons manufacture of this scale over two thousand years ago is enlightening. Imagine the logistics of training, feeding, clothing, moving, and supplying all the other needs of armies this size! It boggles the mind.
Many thanks for covering this war,we always hear MUCH more about the second Punic due to Hannibal so this is a refreshing change.Thank you for the effort you put in!
THFE Productions It would be extremely interesting to see you, one day do a total war history video on Japanese history using the shogun 2 total war video game and engine just like how you used Rome 2 for depicting and explaining the Punic wars.
One thing that surprises me was how famous Pyrrhus was then. We know him by the words Pyrrhic victory... Hannibal ranked him second to Alexander as a general. This is an amazing video.
Isn't awesome how a video game suddenly sparks one's desire to learn about ancient history? I know it did for me. back when the original Rome Total War came out in 2004 (holy crap its been 12 years?!) I was in high school and I bought this gorgeous book I saw at a garage sale, it had a beautiful concept art of the ancient city of Rome, at lunch I invited some of my friends to hear my rants of ancient history at the library. One day a professor was struck in awe as she heard us argue about many events in that time period.So yeah this game series has a deep sentimental value to me and I thank THFE Productions for further insights.
I HATE CABBAGE Tbh most of what he says in this video you learn in Rome 2 Total War, the game he's using. :)) If you install a mod called Divide et Impera it makes Rome 2 the best historical title ever.
@@xXFeralArtsXx I'm playing ancient empires for Atilla, the Rome 2 port mod. It looks super similar to this is. Haven't tried Rome 2 fully only a bit but I wonder wich is better?
This sounds like one of his earlier videos, and it’s so cool to see how he was nervous and stammering slightly in this video, and now in the latest series, he’s the master of fluent, confident explanation. I feel so proud of his growth :D
Great video overall, i have one slight correction. You mentioned the 'invading Greeks'. Greeks didn't invade the Italian peninsula exactly, they had long established colonies in South Italy and Sicily long before the Romans ever went there, that's why the area was referred to as 'Magna Grecia' in Latin or greater Greece in plain English. Rome attempted to annex or conquer these colonies which made them turn and plead to Pyrrhus of Epirus for help against the Romans.
Yes thanks for clarifying that. The greeks had many colonies around the Mediterranean as you said and the "invasion" force in Italy was basically there to protect fellow greeks. It would be an error to look back in hindsight and say that Italy was Roman territory because that is a fallacy of determinism. At the time southern Italy was very much its own entitity
Atlas It's strange how in a lot of cases historically "Invading" people seemed to actually already have settlements in the lands they invade. Like how everyone thinks the Saxons invaded Brition, When it is probably a more gradually change involving settlements.
@@poiuytrewq11422 I like your response and it contains interesting implications. Like what will happen to Europe when it is 50% arab Muslim or middle eastern Muslim. Will the middle east come to "rescue" their kin?
If Europe is 50% muslim then we are still basically 98% abrahamic religions. The more varied we are culturally the faster we all learn that every religion and every culture just produces the same kind of humans overall. In Theory I'm sure the middle eastern countries would like their productive citizens back but ....considering how far away from 50% we are here in europe you should probably take your heads out of the illuminati clouds or make it more obvious that you're speculating about a fictional scenario?! We need a couple more ISIS states causing migrations in the hundreds of millions before we reach 50% with all these xenophobic countries who would rather have these immigrants die at their fences than having them become immigrants in their country. I know it sounds silly, but most Muslims fled to other Muslim countries closer than europe, who would've thought.
Garthage, or Qart-hadasht on punic language means New city. It was called so because Carthage from begining was planned as large punic city in middle of Mediterranean Sea. Before punic had only 1 large city which was their "capital" at those times - Sor (rocky island), now known as Syr or Tyre (from latin Tyrus). Others were small trade posts which provided supplies for trading ships. Thats why Carthage was called New city.
Thumbs up for your crystal clear narration on the casus belli between two major military powers at the time and shrewd analysis on the backbone of both armies. i look forward to more of your work : )
Thank you for making these videos depicting the Punic Wars. I've always been interested in the Punic Wars, and watching this video alone has already cleared a lot of things up for me. I can't wait for the videos to follow, keep it up!
THFE Productions Please read this. I really, really like this video you made man. Very well presented, interesting and easily remembered. Not spamming numbers and boring stuff (tho you should have mentioned estimated numbers of soldiers of both sides, standing armies, reserves etc., just so people would understand the scale of this war). Like I said I really like this video you made and I enjoyed it a lot. Certainly a fun way to learn some new stuff. I would really like to see other series concerning other time periods, like medieval times, napoleonic wars, etc. all the stuff you could make by using Total War games. Some samurai history would be great too. But seems to me you are interested mostly in this specific time period? A few suggestions, if I may. You should have named certain episodes just so people generally know what they are going to be abut. So besides "Total War History: The First Punic War" and "(Part 1/4)" you could have put like "Road to war" or "Prelude to war" or something like that, you get the point. Just a small suggestion that could improve these awesome series. I like the way, when you are talking about units, you show them with using in-game footage, but it would be better that when you speak about units you zoom in to the units from the front (not from behind or from the sides like you showed them). An example would be when you talked about skirmishers, hastati, triarii etc. Some numbers would be great too. Something like you did in your other video about tactics (Triplex Acies), if I remember correctly. And a little more info about the units would be great (like type of armor, more details about weapons, maybe even training, number of soldiers in a particular unit etc.). And yet another thing, when talking about battles show the actually footage from the game. So the actual fighting. I hope you find this useful. Keep up the good work, Best regards, Branchez
Only just started watching your videos, I began with your most recent Total War: Warhammer vids, and I've got to say you have a great channel. You speak with clarity, you carefully edit the videos, when I'm watching I never experience a moment where I feel I can just tune out. Can't big you up enough, time to binge the Punic War series!
Very nice video, but I have to dispute the very significant claim that Rome decided to aid the Mamertines in Messene due to greed. In truth, it was a highly debated decision that revolved around the fact that if Carthage were to gain a stronghold in Northern Sicily, Rome would be threatened on all sides. While the booty to be gained from such an expedition did still play a role, it was a minor incentive when compared to the strategic advantage Rome could potentially gain by depriving the Carthaginians an excellent opportunity for expansion into Roman territories. From Polybius's histories: 'The Romans were long at a loss, the succour demanded being so obviously unjustifiable. For they had just inflicted on their own fellow-citizens the highest penalty for their treachery to the people of Rhegium, and now to try to help the Mamertines, who had been guilty of like offence not only at Messene but at Rhegium also, was a piece of injustice very difficult to excuse. But fully aware as they were of this, they yet saw that the Carthaginians had not only reduced Libya to subjection, but a great part of Spain besides, and that they were also in possession of all the islands in the Sardinian and Tyrrhenian Seas. They were therefore in great apprehension lest, if they also became masters of Sicily, they would be most troublesome and dangerous neighbours, hemming them in on all sides and threatening every part of Italy. That they would soon be supreme in Sicily, if the Mamertines were not helped, was evident; for once Messene had fallen into their hands, they would shortly subdue Syracuse also, as they were absolute lords of almost all the rest of Sicily. The Romans, foreseeing this and viewing it as a necessity for themselves not to abandon Messene and thus allow the Carthaginians as it were to build a bridge for crossing over to Italy, debated the matter for long, and, even at the end, the Senate did not sanction the proposal for the reason given above, considering that the objection on the score of inconsistency was equal in weight to the advantage to be derived from intervention. The commons, however, worn out as they were by the recent wars and in need of any and every kind of restorative, listened readily to the military commanders, who, besides giving the reasons above stated for the general advantageousness of the war, pointed out the great benefit in the way of plunder which each and every one would evidently derive from it.'
Yeah, what a dilemma. I would have tried to frame it as aiding Syracuse and bringing the Mamertines to Justice. Maybe not as clean of a CB, but I like it.
I know you've been distracted by the release of RTW2, but I hope you'll eventually make time to finish this series. It's really well done and I enjoyed the RTW2 animations.
No, not citizens, not back then. 'Enfranchisement', however, is a tad more accurate: unless my memory very much deceives me, usually Italian "Allies" ("Socii") were client states of Rome, and although they were not under the obligation to pay taxes as the citizenry was, Rome had the often used power to levy certain numbers of troops from them to serve NOT as legionnaires but as auxiliaries in the Roman legions, the less often used power to demand some monetary tributes, and the constantly used power to completely and utterly control their foreign policy, including relations with each other. That status, combined with the direct acquisition of land all over Italy by wealthy Romans or veteran legionaries mostly, as well as the disparate colonisation of the Peninsula by citizens, led to the impoverishment of the Allies (lots of obligations, few if any rights, no means to change the situation) who revolted and waged the Social War (91-88 B.C.E.) against Rome, which ended with the victory of the latter but the acquisition of full citizenship by all the Italian former "allied" states, thus enabling them to serve in the legions not as Auxilaries, but as proper legionnaires, as well as enabling some of them, in the long run, to seek election for political offices in Rome (or, more accurately, more like appointment by the Emperors-the last two major sets of Civil Wars and the subsequent dawn of the Principate came right after the Bellum Sociale.) So... Slight mistake there, in your effort to adequately shorten that very complex relationship for narrative purposes. I know, off topic, but that point is important, and it became even more so in the second Punic War. Plus, you know, it makes the statement of more 'Inclusion' on the part of the main body of the Roman state kind of null and void: they just made the newly subjugated territories participate in Rome's wars on a permanent basis and in regularly determined roles (in that they were levied as part of the same system as the citizens, even if not as citizens per se), and thus a part of the overall command structure in place, plus they assimilated them culturally in quick succession even if they didn't follow that cultural assimilation with a political one-it would take a century and a half to do so for the Italian Allied States, and centuries longer for the rest of what was now not the Republic, but the Empire.
Gotta finish this one first! But yeah I recently read a book on Caesar and his campaigns so I could definitely cover that. However I gotta wait till there is a map editor so I can properly make Alesia
I'm really insanely happy that I found your channel because I absolutely love your content. Almost every video you post just gets my attention so please keep up the good work. I love your enthusiasm; it reflects my own. The fact that you use Total War clips to bring the story to life is just cake on top. Best of wishes my friend. Oh and Roma Invincta 🤟🏻
I LIVE TO SERVE THE MIGHTY CARTHAGE! Keep up the good work dude, very good and detailed docu backed by the terrific visuals of Rome II. Btw; What kind of monstrous supercomputer do you use? The graphics and framerate of the game are great.
I haven't watched the others in this series yet, so I don't know if this will be mentioned, but the thing I find most fascinating and awe-inspiring in both this and the 2nd Punic war is the sheer numbers of ships Rome (Carthage to a lesser extent, also) was able to build. It's also pants-shittingly crazy how many of those ships were destroyed in storms and lost with all hands.
me: wtf why does he speak so "badly"? He interrupts his flow of speech every couple seconds and doesn't sound as confident as i heared him in his other video uploaded: 06.09.2013 me: oh that's why
I remember finding a place that sold Osprey books, so I got a few of them. One of them was on the Punic Wars. It's always great to catch other sources on things like this.
keaton jones When he was consul he was a "Couch general" in addition to this while he served as proconsul in the East his army didnt fight much there, if they had Cicero would not have been with the infantry anyway
I truly love this series! It is one of the best documentary series to be found on RUclips. I hope to see more work like this soon. I hope that you will cover Scipio Africanus' Campaign into Spain soon.
No, The term Equites meant horsemen and by extension of their wealth in time the entire middle class. The Patriacians, the ancient aristocracy, the progeny of Romulus companions and the etruscan nobility that ruled the city for a time. Not all Patricians were rich,perfect example is Caius Julius Caesar which was born in the Suburra,the Roman ghetto. While several patricians clans like the Fabii for instance were famed horsemen themselves, they were a minority in the overall cavalry system of the early republic.
Raven Strategist the word equestrian comes from the Latin word “equus” means horse. The Latin word “equites” also comes from the Latin word for horse which is what he meant.
yes stephen thank you I'm Italian and I know these things thank you very much. Still Ancient roman society was divided in 3:Patricii the aristocracy,Equites the middle class,Plebes the common people. These are facts
Despite his abruptness, he (Raven Strategist) is absolutely correct. What he forgot to add was the _reason_ that Roman society was stratified into 3 tiers; Plato/ The Greeks. The Romans took a lot from the Greeks. Most educated and aristocratic people spoke Greek rather than Latin, as it was a badge of status. These people were the (poetic) architects of Roman society- though they could and frequently did affect societal changes- and they appear to have taken Plato's societal strata to heart; People are either _Gold, Silver_ or _Bronze._ And, as with the value of these metals, _Gold_ was the most desirable and valuable, and _Bronze_ was least. As with the metals, _Gold, Silver_ and _Bronze_ are non-transmutable. A person who is born into the _Bronze_ or the _Silver_ strata will *always* be that same level and can never improve his/ her lot (just as a _Gold_ or a _Silver_ 'person' can never lose their status and find themselves in a lower tier). And as awful as every other caste-type of system is/ was, this one was no better, relegating the _Bronze_ tier to servitude and obedience, the _Silver_ tier to management and to deal with both other tiers and the _Gold_ tier to governance and learning (though a google search for Plato's _Gold/ Silver/ Bronze_ tiered societal structure would likely provide a better description than the one I mangled...
Really really good, i hope made some more of this tipe of videos. My personal favorite would be the story of alexander agains persia with the battle of gaugamela :D
I have two questions here: At this time period, were the "Roman" cities outside of Latium directly governed by Romans, or were they more like client states/vassals? Also, were the two Consuls the only ones who could command armies? If yes, then does this mean that Rome could only have two active armies on a campaign at a time?
Vitor Demarque Quirino 1. If they were Roman, they were governed by Rome, but they did have some autonomy if they were far away. If they were allies than they were most likely client states. 2. No, but they were the main commanders. They were like the top generals but not the only ones.
Technically every legate of a legion and their elected second in command a military tribune can lead men into battle but legates are always an appointed senator and the tribune was usually a son of a senator or influential family oh and higher ups like praetors and governors of provinces which romans called propraetor or proconsul can also lead men into battle
He is just a guy who actually pays attention to the games he play and try to make good use of this knowledge. In other words, he retains what he plays as information, instead of just throwing it away like most people do.
A truly skilled intelligence agency can divide a nation with no diversity. Diversity brings strength, through diversity of thoughts, ideas, strengths, weaknesses. But there's an inherent risk with diversity, since yes, it is generally easier to divide a diverse nation than a homogeneous one.
@@danielgarcia9371 "diversity brings strength". No it does not, except for the tyrants who want to create/maintain the NWO. And by the way, WHY THE F### WOULD I WANT/ DESIRE FOR MILLIONS, TENS OF MILLIONS, EVEN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF VERY DIFFERENT MEN TO COME TO MY VITAL SPACE AT TAKE JOBS/ SUBSIDIES, HOUSING, CREATING THEIR FAMILIES WITH OUR WOMAN OR BRINGING THEIRS INTO HERE. WHY THE F### WOULD I DESIRE/ ACCEPT TO BE SUBSTITUTED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. if I would desire such thing i would be miserable, I would be valueless.
Awesome documentary. Thank you for that quality video. Better than History channel. It is great to know the cultural differences of each factions, their conflits, way to fight, composition of their armies etc.
Awesome video, quality and content. I can tell you put a lot of work into the writing and recording. This is the best documentary on the Punic Wars I have ever seen. I can't wait for the next one to come out! Keep up the good work. Cheers
You should keep doing this kinds of Videos. Probably a lot of work but, worth its time in gold. It is a real shame you stopped doing them. Please consider doing this kind of Videogame documentaries. Awesome work.
Rome II may not have been as excellent as I wanted it to be and feels pretty much as a disappointment, but it has allowed you to do this great, awesome and beautiful work!! You have given decency back to it.
This is an amazing video, way better than most documentaries with a few actors. You need to make as many of these as you can and release them for the common good of society.
Yeah thanks, I was going a bit fast but can't imagine making part 1 any longer to be honest... its just the beginning and I went way off script at some points and was trying to bet back lol
You can tell how much he has stepped up his production and quality over the years after coming back to this
I was just having this thought. I've been a subscriber for many many years. His video's back in these days are still really well produced and great. You can tell he had improved so much these days compared to this video. Here it sounds he's reading a script and you can hear the pauses and stops. In his newer video's there isn't any pauses or anything. The editing has improved so much. Then again, I LOVE the raw factor of his older videos. Just a dude with a passion and lots of knowledge in that passion with a mic. Cheers.
This reminds me when the History Channel used Rome Total War to help explain the order of battle. Ah, the good old History Channel... I very much enjoy your videos, carry on.
@Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus Yeah, decisive battles, they'd mod the shit out of Rome as well, putting so much effort into not only the battles (which are difficult to reenact the way they did it, coming from a long time player) but the behind the scenes bits too, I wish someone did stuff like that
Did you guys watch time commanders? It may have just been a UK thing but if you haven't seen it check it out! Used the Total War engine to fight historical battles with normal people (and some 'celebrities') to control the forces. was really good.
@@marcolsen4314 i think theyre meaning time commanders.
Thanks david
@@snakeguy8646 ah thanks guys! just checked that out too! Hilarious how a TV production was using TW to an awesome effect like that!
Eight years later and R:TW2 still looks great and is atmospheric af..
I can't listen or watch regular channel history shows anymore. This way is the new way of learning.. simple. Easy. Personal and feels natural.
Not sure who this is directed at but in case its in reference to the video, I remind you that Rome was not yet an empire
I came back to this video 7 years later oh my, I can totally see the difference in your presentation your speaking and your voice, its been a hell of adventure
You've improved so much bro, I remember this video haha this is where I subscribed to you
It's been 7 years, and you still haven't pinned your own comment!
@@Russian-Troll then what was the channels original name?
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Appreciate all the support guys!
Thfp?
I feel like I'm missing a letter or word.
I used this series additionally to the online lessons at university to pass my oral exam about the 1st Punic war! Thanks man!
history channel would ruin it by making a sitcom about fat roman war vets selling off used Roman weaponry at bargin price
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This production is terrific for several reasons. The computer power to produce this "movie-like" presentation takes one right into the action. Had there been something similar when I was in school, history would have more thoroughly captured my interest.
To realize the extent of military tactics. technology, ship building, and weapons manufacture of this scale over two thousand years ago is enlightening. Imagine the logistics of training, feeding, clothing, moving, and supplying all the other needs of armies this size! It boggles the mind.
this was 8 years ago at the time you posted this comment lol
Many thanks for covering this war,we always hear MUCH more about the second Punic due to Hannibal so this is a refreshing change.Thank you for the effort you put in!
+Mike Passion your welcome : )
THFE Productions It would be extremely interesting to see you, one day do a total war history video on Japanese history using the shogun 2 total war video game and engine just like how you used Rome 2 for depicting and explaining the Punic wars.
+Invicta If you are going to say "Prin(k)ipes then say (K)enturion plz :)
Coleman Scollard that’s not how it works lmfao
@@InvictaHistory think you forgot to mention the archers because there's been a number of bronze Arrowhead finds.
One thing that surprises me was how famous Pyrrhus was then. We know him by the words Pyrrhic victory... Hannibal ranked him second to Alexander as a general. This is an amazing video.
It's interesting because you are connecting the game with history and real events, statistics, analyzes makes more real. Keep up.
Isn't awesome how a video game suddenly sparks one's desire to learn about ancient history? I know it did for me. back when the original Rome Total War came out in 2004 (holy crap its been 12 years?!) I was in high school and I bought this gorgeous book I saw at a garage sale, it had a beautiful concept art of the ancient city of Rome, at lunch I invited some of my friends to hear my rants of ancient history at the library. One day a professor was struck in awe as she heard us argue about many events in that time period.So yeah this game series has a deep sentimental value to me and I thank THFE Productions for further insights.
Ernesto Palacios for me it was age of empires
I was in high school as well back in 2004 when I first picked up Rome total war. Good times
This is a great way of using a video game!
I HATE CABBAGE Tbh most of what he says in this video you learn in Rome 2 Total War, the game he's using. :)) If you install a mod called Divide et Impera it makes Rome 2 the best historical title ever.
@@xXFeralArtsXx I'm playing ancient empires for Atilla, the Rome 2 port mod. It looks super similar to this is.
Haven't tried Rome 2 fully only a bit but I wonder wich is better?
@@xXFeralArtsXx meh ss 6.4 for m2tw is way better
@@HFFCANADA atilla ancient empires is infinite times better than rome 2
wonderful - can´t imagine how much work and effort went into this documentary!
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This sounds like one of his earlier videos, and it’s so cool to see how he was nervous and stammering slightly in this video, and now in the latest series, he’s the master of fluent, confident explanation. I feel so proud of his growth :D
Great video overall, i have one slight correction. You mentioned the 'invading Greeks'. Greeks didn't invade the Italian peninsula exactly, they had long established colonies in South Italy and Sicily long before the Romans ever went there, that's why the area was referred to as 'Magna Grecia' in Latin or greater Greece in plain English. Rome attempted to annex or conquer these colonies which made them turn and plead to Pyrrhus of Epirus for help against the Romans.
Yes thanks for clarifying that. The greeks had many colonies around the Mediterranean as you said and the "invasion" force in Italy was basically there to protect fellow greeks. It would be an error to look back in hindsight and say that Italy was Roman territory because that is a fallacy of determinism. At the time southern Italy was very much its own entitity
Atlas It's strange how in a lot of cases historically "Invading" people seemed to actually already have settlements in the lands they invade. Like how everyone thinks the Saxons invaded Brition, When it is probably a more gradually change involving settlements.
@@poiuytrewq11422 I like your response and it contains interesting implications. Like what will happen to Europe when it is 50% arab Muslim or middle eastern Muslim. Will the middle east come to "rescue" their kin?
If Europe is 50% muslim then we are still basically 98% abrahamic religions. The more varied we are culturally the faster we all learn that every religion and every culture just produces the same kind of humans overall. In Theory I'm sure the middle eastern countries would like their productive citizens back but ....considering how far away from 50% we are here in europe you should probably take your heads out of the illuminati clouds or make it more obvious that you're speculating about a fictional scenario?!
We need a couple more ISIS states causing migrations in the hundreds of millions before we reach 50% with all these xenophobic countries who would rather have these immigrants die at their fences than having them become immigrants in their country.
I know it sounds silly, but most Muslims fled to other Muslim countries closer than europe, who would've thought.
@@S4NoctiS I love how you burned him. Well done lad!
Garthage, or Qart-hadasht on punic language means New city. It was called so because Carthage from begining was planned as large punic city in middle of Mediterranean Sea. Before punic had only 1 large city which was their "capital" at those times - Sor (rocky island), now known as Syr or Tyre (from latin Tyrus). Others were small trade posts which provided supplies for trading ships. Thats why Carthage was called New city.
Evgeny Laptev So New Carthage means New New City huh
Yes how about Nova Carthage ?
Didn't know this thank you
Cleeon Virlief
Nova=New, Nova Carthago=New New City or possibly Newer City
And therefore, Nueva Cartagena translates to "New New New City".
Man you deserve a standing ovation.......I really love your presentations
Thanks man, appreciate the support. When I mentioned the equestrians I intended to mean that the patricians and senators were included in this group
Thumbs up for your crystal clear narration on the casus belli between two major military powers at the time and shrewd analysis on the backbone of both armies. i look forward to more of your work : )
thanks! Hope you will enjoy the other history videos I have which dive into battles on a more intimate level
This is mucth better then watching an old boring documentery and its awsome thanks!
this style was already done by the history channel it was called decisive battles of history and they used the RTW engine.
I can't focus on what he says because all I hear is lip smacking and swallowing,
along with mispronunciation and a general lack of fluency.
Rome is my favourite faction in history!
Cale Nancarrow England is my city!!!
Thank you for making these videos depicting the Punic Wars. I've always been interested in the Punic Wars, and watching this video alone has already cleared a lot of things up for me. I can't wait for the videos to follow, keep it up!
I love you're vid's about history, you should make some more! :)
just released part 2!
THFE Productions I'll certainly watch it!
Would be great to see this punic wars series redone with Invicta's new top notch production quality.
THFE Productions Please read this.
I really, really like this video you made man. Very well presented, interesting and easily remembered. Not spamming numbers and boring stuff (tho you should have mentioned estimated numbers of soldiers of both sides, standing armies, reserves etc., just so people would understand the scale of this war).
Like I said I really like this video you made and I enjoyed it a lot. Certainly a fun way to learn some new stuff. I would really like to see other series concerning other time periods, like medieval times, napoleonic wars, etc. all the stuff you could make by using Total War games. Some samurai history would be great too. But seems to me you are interested mostly in this specific time period?
A few suggestions, if I may.
You should have named certain episodes just so people generally know what they are going to be abut. So besides "Total War History: The First Punic War" and "(Part 1/4)" you could have put like "Road to war" or "Prelude to war" or something like that, you get the point. Just a small suggestion that could improve these awesome series.
I like the way, when you are talking about units, you show them with using in-game footage, but it would be better that when you speak about units you zoom in to the units from the front (not from behind or from the sides like you showed them). An example would be when you talked about skirmishers, hastati, triarii etc. Some numbers would be great too. Something like you did in your other video about tactics (Triplex Acies), if I remember correctly.
And a little more info about the units would be great (like type of armor, more details about weapons, maybe even training, number of soldiers in a particular unit etc.).
And yet another thing, when talking about battles show the actually footage from the game. So the actual fighting.
I hope you find this useful. Keep up the good work,
Best regards,
Branchez
Wow are u a professional or something
+Brock Obama What do you mean?
theadam22 it's not prententiousness, it's just good writing
Only just started watching your videos, I began with your most recent Total War: Warhammer vids, and I've got to say you have a great channel. You speak with clarity, you carefully edit the videos, when I'm watching I never experience a moment where I feel I can just tune out. Can't big you up enough, time to binge the Punic War series!
Very nice video, but I have to dispute the very significant claim that Rome decided to aid the Mamertines in Messene due to greed. In truth, it was a highly debated decision that revolved around the fact that if Carthage were to gain a stronghold in Northern Sicily, Rome would be threatened on all sides. While the booty to be gained from such an expedition did still play a role, it was a minor incentive when compared to the strategic advantage Rome could potentially gain by depriving the Carthaginians an excellent opportunity for expansion into Roman territories. From Polybius's histories:
'The Romans were long at a loss, the succour demanded being so obviously unjustifiable. For they had just inflicted on their own fellow-citizens the highest penalty for their treachery to the people of Rhegium, and now to try to help the Mamertines, who had been guilty of like offence not only at Messene but at Rhegium also, was a piece of injustice very difficult to excuse. But fully aware as they were of this, they yet saw that the Carthaginians had not only reduced Libya to subjection, but a great part of Spain besides, and that they were also in possession of all the islands in the Sardinian and Tyrrhenian Seas. They were therefore in great apprehension lest, if they also became masters of Sicily, they would be most troublesome and dangerous neighbours, hemming them in on all sides and threatening every part of Italy. That they would soon be supreme in Sicily, if the Mamertines were not helped, was evident; for once Messene had fallen into their hands, they would shortly subdue Syracuse also, as they were absolute lords of almost all the rest of Sicily. The Romans, foreseeing this and viewing it as a necessity for themselves not to abandon Messene and thus allow the Carthaginians as it were to build a bridge for crossing over to Italy, debated the matter for long, and, even at the end, the Senate did not sanction the proposal for the reason given above, considering that the objection on the score of inconsistency was equal in weight to the advantage to be derived from intervention. The commons, however, worn out as they were by the recent wars and in need of any and every kind of restorative, listened readily to the military commanders, who, besides giving the reasons above stated for the general advantageousness of the war, pointed out the great benefit in the way of plunder which each and every one would evidently derive from it.'
Yeah, what a dilemma. I would have tried to frame it as aiding Syracuse and bringing the Mamertines to Justice. Maybe not as clean of a CB, but I like it.
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Looks like rome stole it's entire system of government from Carthage. No wonder they wanted it dead.
MAKE THE NEXT FILM THIS IS TOO GOOD I CANT WAIT
Wow, you're great, I love history, especial Rome.
+ThePemudalope Ever considered to teach it at a high school?
Jack Oosterkamp I've actually thought about that, but I don't know
+ThePemudalope whats holding you back? and more important, can you still chance your mind? (depending age, education, current employment)
@@JackOosterkamp Teach social inequity in high school!! Rome was so cool!!
Thanks a lot for this. There is actually a dearth of material regarding the first Punic War on RUclips. Overwhelmingly focused on the second.
I know you've been distracted by the release of RTW2, but I hope you'll eventually make time to finish this series. It's really well done and I enjoyed the RTW2 animations.
I still find myself watching old ones too.
No, not citizens, not back then. 'Enfranchisement', however, is a tad more accurate: unless my memory very much deceives me, usually Italian "Allies" ("Socii") were client states of Rome, and although they were not under the obligation to pay taxes as the citizenry was, Rome had the often used power to levy certain numbers of troops from them to serve NOT as legionnaires but as auxiliaries in the Roman legions, the less often used power to demand some monetary tributes, and the constantly used power to completely and utterly control their foreign policy, including relations with each other. That status, combined with the direct acquisition of land all over Italy by wealthy Romans or veteran legionaries mostly, as well as the disparate colonisation of the Peninsula by citizens, led to the impoverishment of the Allies (lots of obligations, few if any rights, no means to change the situation) who revolted and waged the Social War (91-88 B.C.E.) against Rome, which ended with the victory of the latter but the acquisition of full citizenship by all the Italian former "allied" states, thus enabling them to serve in the legions not as Auxilaries, but as proper legionnaires, as well as enabling some of them, in the long run, to seek election for political offices in Rome (or, more accurately, more like appointment by the Emperors-the last two major sets of Civil Wars and the subsequent dawn of the Principate came right after the Bellum Sociale.)
So... Slight mistake there, in your effort to adequately shorten that very complex relationship for narrative purposes. I know, off topic, but that point is important, and it became even more so in the second Punic War. Plus, you know, it makes the statement of more 'Inclusion' on the part of the main body of the Roman state kind of null and void: they just made the newly subjugated territories participate in Rome's wars on a permanent basis and in regularly determined roles (in that they were levied as part of the same system as the citizens, even if not as citizens per se), and thus a part of the overall command structure in place, plus they assimilated them culturally in quick succession even if they didn't follow that cultural assimilation with a political one-it would take a century and a half to do so for the Italian Allied States, and centuries longer for the rest of what was now not the Republic, but the Empire.
The work that went into this blows me away. Great work!
Gotta finish this one first! But yeah I recently read a book on Caesar and his campaigns so I could definitely cover that. However I gotta wait till there is a map editor so I can properly make Alesia
A few years later I gotta say you have done an amazing job 👏👏
Can't wait for you to do the Second Punic War, Hannibal is the best. Great job, keep em coming
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Damn, this channel is like "the great war" except that it was during the roman era. AWESOME. :)
I'm really insanely happy that I found your channel because I absolutely love your content. Almost every video you post just gets my attention so please keep up the good work. I love your enthusiasm; it reflects my own. The fact that you use Total War clips to bring the story to life is just cake on top. Best of wishes my friend. Oh and Roma Invincta 🤟🏻
I LIVE TO SERVE THE MIGHTY CARTHAGE!
Keep up the good work dude, very good and detailed docu backed by the terrific visuals of Rome II.
Btw; What kind of monstrous supercomputer do you use? The graphics and framerate of the game are great.
SPACE AGE TECHNOLOGY
WINDOWS 7.something
14:19
Refuelling ships..
Rome: 'What you doing bud?'
Carthage: 'Just refuelling my ships.'
Rome: 'Are they supposed to be on fire?'
I'm blown away by you're production skills. And facts
the equestrians were not actually the nobility, the patricians filled that role. The equestrians were the merchant class.
I haven't watched the others in this series yet, so I don't know if this will be mentioned, but the thing I find most fascinating and awe-inspiring in both this and the 2nd Punic war is the sheer numbers of ships Rome (Carthage to a lesser extent, also) was able to build. It's also pants-shittingly crazy how many of those ships were destroyed in storms and lost with all hands.
If the history class in school like this, it will be awesome.
i just watched it once again, and i miss you making these documentarys :(
Was here 9 years ago (!) and back now in 2023. Still playing Rome 2 Total War DEI!
someone took a page from when Rome Total War wasnt even a game. the nostalgia ^^
issint that a mission/battle ??
yes, thanks for keeping the record straight
Thank you for this. I really appreciate you using Rome 2 to explain history
just wanted to say thankyou for these wonderful documentaries. I hope to seen more of them
me: wtf why does he speak so "badly"? He interrupts his flow of speech every couple seconds and doesn't sound as confident as i heared him in his other video
uploaded: 06.09.2013
me: oh that's why
This is a much higher quality video than I expected. Good job
Pyrrhus suffered a "Pyrrhic" Victory if you will? ;)
I love historical moments that define a term that is used today.
Really good documentary. Just watched all 4 episodes. Great narration. Fascinating and really well put together. Thank you!!!
Great job , subbed
thank you for explaining the history of my country , i feel proud ;)
Sansa! I beg you... let me smash.
Way better than national geographic videos about rome that i have. This is so cool and has a very impressive production value!
Did you say refueling ships at 14:17?
Yeah, with food for the rowers ;)
@Wheelo Deelo I thought they had electrical engines supplied by Tesla?
I remember finding a place that sold Osprey books, so I got a few of them. One of them was on the Punic Wars. It's always great to catch other sources on things like this.
I don't think Cicero actually fought, he was just a scribe or something as a cadet, many Romans were also "couch generals"
Cicero was a consul, he has fought either a politician or something else
keaton jones
When he was consul he was a "Couch general" in addition to this while he served as proconsul in the East his army didnt fight much there, if they had Cicero would not have been with the infantry anyway
He was a governor or Sicily at one point I think and fought a little bit there but it was not much.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 He was a provincial quaestor not a governor.
I truly love this series! It is one of the best documentary series to be found on RUclips. I hope to see more work like this soon. I hope that you will cover Scipio Africanus' Campaign into Spain soon.
Matthew Kuchinski Thank you for mentioning him! Not many historians do!
A little inaccurate at times and a little chaotic when it comes to the dating and chronology of the events, but otherwise nicely done :)
Finwaell how is it inaccurate?0
@@williambrick2481 i don't think you'll get a response from this dude. It's been 6 years since he commented lol
These are great...I hope you make more documentaries like this, These are far better than anything on the history channel, thats for sure
The equestrians were the roman merchant ""bourgeoisie"". Patricians are the nobles.
Elsaß Lothringen Actually equo means horse and in Rome only nobles rode horses in the military with the social elite. So in these terms he is right.
No, The term Equites meant horsemen and by extension of their wealth in time the entire middle class. The Patriacians, the ancient aristocracy, the progeny of Romulus companions and the etruscan nobility that ruled the city for a time. Not all Patricians were rich,perfect example is Caius Julius Caesar which was born in the Suburra,the Roman ghetto. While several patricians clans like the Fabii for instance were famed horsemen themselves, they were a minority in the overall cavalry system of the early republic.
Raven Strategist the word equestrian comes from the Latin word “equus” means horse. The Latin word “equites” also comes from the Latin word for horse which is what he meant.
yes stephen thank you I'm Italian and I know these things thank you very much. Still Ancient roman society was divided in 3:Patricii the aristocracy,Equites the middle class,Plebes the common people. These are facts
Despite his abruptness, he (Raven Strategist) is absolutely correct.
What he forgot to add was the _reason_ that Roman society was stratified into 3 tiers; Plato/ The Greeks. The Romans took a lot from the Greeks. Most educated and aristocratic people spoke Greek rather than Latin, as it was a badge of status. These people were the (poetic) architects of Roman society- though they could and frequently did affect societal changes- and they appear to have taken Plato's societal strata to heart;
People are either _Gold, Silver_ or _Bronze._ And, as with the value of these metals, _Gold_ was the most desirable and valuable, and _Bronze_ was least. As with the metals, _Gold, Silver_ and _Bronze_ are non-transmutable. A person who is born into the _Bronze_ or the _Silver_ strata will *always* be that same level and can never improve his/ her lot (just as a _Gold_ or a _Silver_ 'person' can never lose their status and find themselves in a lower tier). And as awful as every other caste-type of system is/ was, this one was no better, relegating the _Bronze_ tier to servitude and obedience, the _Silver_ tier to management and to deal with both other tiers and the _Gold_ tier to governance and learning (though a google search for Plato's _Gold/ Silver/ Bronze_ tiered societal structure would likely provide a better description than the one I mangled...
Really really good, i hope made some more of this tipe of videos. My personal favorite would be the story of alexander agains persia with the battle of gaugamela :D
I have two questions here:
At this time period, were the "Roman" cities outside of Latium directly governed by Romans, or were they more like client states/vassals?
Also, were the two Consuls the only ones who could command armies? If yes, then does this mean that Rome could only have two active armies on a campaign at a time?
Vitor Demarque Quirino
1. If they were Roman, they were governed by Rome, but they did have some autonomy if they were far away. If they were allies than they were most likely client states.
2. No, but they were the main commanders. They were like the top generals but not the only ones.
+Clayton Krumm They usually only had 2 main armies though right?
+deamongimli Considering how war-like Rome was, yes
Technically every legate of a legion and their elected second in command a military tribune can lead men into battle but legates are always an appointed senator and the tribune was usually a son of a senator or influential family oh and higher ups like praetors and governors of provinces which romans called propraetor or proconsul can also lead men into battle
Great job! Better than most TV documentaries I've seen!
are you a history major? you've gotta be a history major. there's no way you're not a history major.
Looking up and reasearching quite a bit dosent automaticly make you a history major.
nah, i'm an engineering major
He is just a guy who actually pays attention to the games he play and try to make good use of this knowledge. In other words, he retains what he plays as information, instead of just throwing it away like most people do.
***** Vanilla games are often not the most historically accurate(remember old kingdom Egypt in Rome I?)
***** It's a better way to get you interested and then research further.
was not what I was expecting, however it was beyond amazing. Great job!
15:58
phyrrus was NOT defeated.
after you said that, i dont know how true the other things you said are
It was not a victory either. He perished in Sparta
I mean, he was eventually expelled and he lost the war, so maybe that counts?
Great again. The facts are endless and Rome Total War (I think) really brings it to life
5:28 "melting pot, diversity is our strength"
They lost, to much disloyalty.
And had to rely enormously on mercenaries, who promptly rebelled when they weren't paid.
Ah diversity, the weakness of any nation with enemies seeking to divide and exploit this weakness. Nothing a skilled intelligence agency can't do.
A truly skilled intelligence agency can divide a nation with no diversity. Diversity brings strength, through diversity of thoughts, ideas, strengths, weaknesses. But there's an inherent risk with diversity, since yes, it is generally easier to divide a diverse nation than a homogeneous one.
Daniel Garcia oh it’s so easy, especially one with our storied past and long list of enemies.
@@danielgarcia9371 "diversity brings strength". No it does not, except for the tyrants who want to create/maintain the NWO.
And by the way, WHY THE F### WOULD I WANT/ DESIRE FOR MILLIONS, TENS OF MILLIONS, EVEN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF VERY DIFFERENT MEN TO COME TO MY VITAL SPACE AT TAKE JOBS/ SUBSIDIES, HOUSING, CREATING THEIR FAMILIES WITH OUR WOMAN OR BRINGING THEIRS INTO HERE. WHY THE F### WOULD I DESIRE/ ACCEPT TO BE SUBSTITUTED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.
if I would desire such thing i would be miserable, I would be valueless.
This is incredibly well done, particularly as an independent self made documentary. Keep up the great work!
carthago delenda est :-P
Hey to Invicta, thank you for a great series, great graphics and information, cheers Kevin
This video was excellent, I look forward to watching the remainder for your work and any new material to come.
Awesome documentary. I'm very excited to learn what happens in the next episode!
The amount of detail in this video is ridiculous (I mean that in a good way) a lot of info thanks for the video, keep it up.
You're awesome for this, I've been looking for a good documentary on the punic wars so thank you.
Nice video. I like reading or watching videos about the Punic Wars. Nice breakdown of culture differences/advantages.
Your videos are fantastic. Thank you for making these.
Awesome documentary. Thank you for that quality video. Better than History channel. It is great to know the cultural differences of each factions, their conflits, way to fight, composition of their armies etc.
Awesome video, quality and content. I can tell you put a lot of work into the writing and recording. This is the best documentary on the Punic Wars I have ever seen. I can't wait for the next one to come out! Keep up the good work. Cheers
Please bring this series back brother, True History Buff AF
You should keep doing this kinds of Videos. Probably a lot of work but, worth its time in gold. It is a real shame you stopped doing them. Please consider doing this kind of Videogame documentaries. Awesome work.
This video was pretty informative. I always wanted to know how this war started. Now this video has filled in a few blanks. Nice job Invicta.
thats a good use of TWR 2, i love documentry videos like this , great work!
Awesome documentary - pleasant voice...it can be well used to teach this important part of history. Thanks!
Rome II may not have been as excellent as I wanted it to be and feels pretty much as a disappointment, but it has allowed you to do this great, awesome and beautiful work!! You have given decency back to it.
Oakley, you are easily my favorite youtuber right now - keep up the great work!
Well done man. just as good as some history channel documentaries.
Good documentary dude... looking forward for another work of yours.
this is great, I did not notice you made these valuable things earlier.
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. Very interesting and well produced.
Real good Job Oakley we appreciate all e work you out in too this and it's very good in an informational way and in the gaming way so thank you
This is an amazing video, way better than most documentaries with a few actors. You need to make as many of these as you can and release them for the common good of society.
I'm a huge history fan, and ancient Greece and ancient Rome are my favorites parts in history. So i appreciate this !
Thank you for this video. It's easy to see that you put a lot of work into this. I really appreciate it.
Yeah thanks, I was going a bit fast but can't imagine making part 1 any longer to be honest... its just the beginning and I went way off script at some points and was trying to bet back lol