Total War History: Battle of Adrianople (Part 3/4)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Valens has forced the Goths to seek refuge atop a hill in their wagon laager fort. The legions however are tired of waiting in the hot sun while the barbarians sit behind their barricades and launch a preemptive attack (Part 1/4: • Total War History: Bat... )
Literary Sources:
Legions of Rome: The Definitive History of Every Imperial Roman Legion by Stephen Dando-Collins
Uniforms of the Roman World by Kevin Kiley
Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of Empire by Simon Baker
How Rome Fell by Adrian Goldsworthy
The Complete Roman Army by Adrian Goldsworthy
Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity by J.E. Lendon
The End of Empire: Attila the Hun and the Fall of Rome by Christopher Kelly
Music:
"The Horned King" - Ryse Soundtrack
"Seven Hills" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"We Are the Prey" - Centurion Soundtrack
"On the Run" - Centurion Soundtrack
"Army of Drums" - Rome Total War Soundtrack
"Streets of Roma" - Total War: Attila Soundtrack
"The Ninth Ride Out" - Centurion Soundtrack
"Through the Woods" - Ryse Soundtrack
"Journey to Rome" - Rome Total War Soundtrack
14:35 it was at this moment, the Eastern Roman Empperor in charge of the army sent to fight the revolting Goths near the northern border knew, he f*cked up
Love the ending, "The situation was quickly devolving into the nightmare of Cannae...". Great job! It's amazing the level of detail in the video
The cinematography in this (or machinimatography I guess) is Fantastic, those 1st person scenes were really well done.
IDidSawABear Thanks, I used a mod to get the shot even closer to the character and with just a little helmet png overlay it looks great
THFE Productions And what mod is that? Link please!
Cypek Koprowski www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?682654-Prof-s-Mods
THFE Productions Thanks and good job so far on the documentary!
POV: You are going to get your ass kicked
I say this every historical video, but you've really outdone yourself this time Oakley XD
I really liked the different camera angles and techniques you used
Fizzy Purple Thanks alot man! Took ages to make so I really appreciate it when people say they enjoyed the video
THFE Productions I was wondering did you use a mod for Attila to get the first person pov on the soldiers or did you add that yourself in editing? Either way great video.
So this is where Tolkien got his idea for the battle of helmsdeep with horses unexpected charging in the flank from.
Juul King This wasn't the first time it happend though. At the battle of alesia, Julius Ceasar had his cavalry hiding in the woods and then charging into the gauls. That's how he won that battle. I think it is more based of that, then of this, as at the battle of alesia, the romans had much fewer troops then the gauls (about 1:25) just like they had in the battle of helms deep. In both battles the cavalry saved the battle by charging the back of the attacking army.
i thought he got the idea from the battle of vienna where the polish cavalry saved them from the turks
Bada Boom You're exaggerating a little aren't you? The Austrians were doing quite well and most of the reinforcing army was Austrian and German...The charge was indeed the greatest charge in history TO THIS POINT but greater charges have been done since and and it did certainly not kill tens of thousands ot Ottomans
Adding to the said in the video, the oval shield replaced the scutum because the legiones were now equipped with the long spatha sword instead the short gladius. although the stabbing technique could still be performed, the rectangular shield couldn't be used properly together with this sword.
Looks like Bacurius pulled a Leeroy there...
Imagine after the battle, Valens lying on the ground dying next to Bacurius:
"Bacurius, you're just stupid as hell"
Bacurius: "At least i have chicken."
Step aside History Channel! I love all of your History documentaries, they are well researched and highly detailed! You have an amazing talent to bring history to life...Thank you! Its hard to stop watching.....Cant wait for more!
Best history channel on youtube!
That is debatable.
This was soooo epic bro, just keep up the amazing, wonderful work!!
This is excellent, I was always wondering about the reasons of the change of armour and weaponry in the late roman empire. Couldn't find it anywhere, thank you
That Roman chant from 8:21 was the best thing ever.
I dont know why cant CA make "historical battles" like they were historically...
Goths positioned their infantry inside their camp historically but CA make them positioned outside in their game... sigh....
Also, look at the size of gothic camp.... hmmmm...
Oakley, CA really needs you....
jamreal18 I was so excited when CA said they would have an Adrianople Historical battle because I would be able to use that for my documentary... turns out it was no help whatsoever... even for just the wagon fort
jamreal18 I really agree I don’t understand why you go out of the way to change things that make these battles interesting it’s like chalons without the hill...
I can watch this for days... Very well done oakley, I never watched a documentary that is better than yours and I mean it.(Historically)
Nahrime Sweet! Thanks for the kind words
Please do more of these. This is much better then the old Decisive Battles show that used Rome 1
Looking forward to the 4/4 part of the video. Really good video and comments, makes the total war games more enjoyable. tks much.
You address just about everything one could wonder about with clear illustration. Only thing as I understand it cataphracts were not a palatine unit just a class of armor. Clibanarii on the other hand seems like a colloquial term for a type of elite soldier and not a real class of troop or armor. I like how you show the diversity of arms too the axes plumbatae and maces. Tactics and roles were so diverse and thought out it deserves more attention than just ‘here’s a gladius.’
Finally I can watch this masterpiece in glorious 1080p, very well made again.
the camera angles and the text was awesome, keep going!
After watching Adrianople part 3 you just won my Subscription! Thank you for the video, cant wait for part four!!!
I must say, you should work right now for History Channel and remake that beautiful show "Historical battles". Amazing in many ways, great job, really loved it.
again epic! i like the the fact that you merge in to a singel soldier and give as a view form his perspective and houw it must have been to walk there. again epic mate.!
1:35 YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME! Thats like the best idea ever OMG so great ^^ Im impressed
Can we have more of these series? I mean more frequently. This has got to be the best series in your channel
This is a piece of Art! Never I had seen something so cool! Continue this way man!
"480p, why u do dis 2 me..."
-Charles the Great
Great video!! can´t wait for the last part. It would be nice to see after this a video about the Battle of the Frigidus (W. Roman Emp. and Goths vs. E. Roman Emp.) it has a very interesting historic background; Good Work!!
I'm so happy to see the falx featured in the game.
This was really good! Although that silly deepened voice you were doing was funny :P
Other than that, very good Oakley!
Finally, thank you for posting this.
Nope92 your welcome
Really love these. Please keep em' coming!
Very reminiscent of the battle of Pelenor fields in a way. It's interesting how a laager defense with wagons proved a good bulwark against Romans just as it did in later centuries against Zulus. They ultimately moved out to fight in order to buy time, but still that would have slowed the Romans from pushing back.
Good stuff; anxiously awaiting part 4
I love ancient history mainly the roman era and your videos like this always captivate me. Especially since you add in little facts like the shields and why they changed over the years. And what are you studying in school for.
Ares_God_Of_War24 I am actually studying mechanical engineering
Thanks Oakley, been waiting for this for a month! Keep up the good work.
Great job on this video I love the hard work u put into this
This is awesome! I'm totally going to watch more of these.
Jedimindfunk Awesome, definitely check out my series on Cannae!
Basically the Emperor was an idiot Sun Tzu warns against such actions.
haha so dope man!
@8:42 You really got me into the time, almost felt like I was there
Amazing, just amazing. Love your work! I hope you never stop.
I always wondered why the shields, weapons, and armor changed so radically from the heyday of the Empire to late antiquity. I still wonder at some of the changes, but you did a really good job of providing several credible theories. And those plumbatae! Wow! It makes sense to ditch the pilae if you can have multiple throwing darts--though I wonder if they were as effective at disabling enemies' shields as the pilae had been. A shield hit with a plumbata lodged in it might have some added weight and imbalance on it, but wouldn't be nearly as disabled as a shield with a wobbly long stick affixed to it. And you'd think the enemy would be able to throw the plumbatae right back at the Romans.
Hmm... and it also seems like this is a prime example of why the gladius was so good. If the horsemen were pressing the soldiers so tightly that they didn't have room to raise their swords, a shorter sword that could be used to stab would seem like a better fit. Though perhaps what's really going on here is that more and more of Rome's enemies had larger and larger numbers of equestrian fighters. Gladii are probably a lot better for killing soldiers who are on foot than killing a knight high above you with a range weapon.
This is too well made, nice job.
FührerBrinquedoSenpai Thanks : )
Loved it. I cannot wait to watch the whole series in one go.
I love this!
Hopefully you get hired by CA for doing this because it makes their game more interesting....
Actually I enjoy this rather than playing the game itself...
Wish you continue making videos like this...
jamreal18 No no no, are you insane, don't let CA get their hands on our man!
Gaius Baltar Im not insane...
jamreal18 Didn't they pay the Extra Credits guys for historical videos? If yes they should totally consider partnering up with Oakley.
Love this series please keep it up.
If you can please do a naval battle.
Absolutely fantastic! Great job, I love your work!
1:32 You can bet your ass that there was a pack-horse with food and water for the emperor though; wine too.
interesting fact, the roman comander here, dont make his troops wait , and build a camp,and the next day atack,also dont send explorers , or use mayby less explorers.
I've read somewhere at least once that the darts were flung under-arm so they would fall on the enemy from a height
This is amazing, Looking forward 4th part!
Man I hate late imperial rome i wish the glory days of the republic and early imperial Rome never left.
Great work bruh
Hey man you are really good at this! I really love historic documentaries etc but this really is too interesting to not watch haha :D I really enjoy it! This makes your channel really original! Keep it up! :D
What the Romans should have done was pulling a Caesar at Alesia and building up fortifications around the circle until the Goths either starved to death or sued for peace
this is so well done, i love it
this is awesome keep up the good work
Fantastic as usual!
Excellent work. One thing for making it better: the subtitles about music titles are distracting and are not serving the scenario. Keep it up.
scoobidoowaaa it has to be done since the artists require proper credit and technically speaking I shouldn"t be using these songs without getting permission first
I get it, but may be you can put it at the end?
MOAR!!! RELEASE PART IV!!! I love this series THFE prod. :D
So what in the blazes was Valens thinking when he sought out those prolonged negotiations and talks. It ran counter to his initial stratagem of quick and decisive action. Also was the legions really that ill disciplined taking action before a command was decreed. I understand the barbarization of the legions but damn i can already see poor military discipline in the army.
xaero xiii The initial encounter is not out of the ordinary for armies skirmishing while the rest of the troops deploy. It is also not unprecedented that troops or their officers would press an attack if they are eager for a fight and have been irritated just standing around doing nothing. Similar things have happened to a lot of different Roman commanders and it takes a really skilled general to be able to work around these situations
Remember dude even great commanders like Julius Caesar and Alexander the great can't even maintain order on such a large army, that is the reason why the common military adage 'tactics don't survive contact with the enemy' should always be taken seriously
Really really well done!
This was basically the Roman version of the Little Bighorn....
Nice video, but you've got an outdated view on historical aspect which seems to come mainly from Edward Gibbon(18th century).
"Barbarisation of the Army" No, it was in no sense at all being less effective but the battle was more of tactical disaster just like any previous Roman defeats.
Romans had always been adapting from the people who were in contact and what could be best used by them.The Barbarian influences you're talking about here must have included Gladii, Spathae, chainmail, Gallic helmets, etc. Which were all inspired by the 'barbarians' like Iberian tribes, Celts. And in the Late Antiquity, they've adopted much of Persian and Nomadic people equipments and tactics. If the barbarians you're referring to are Germanic people, then I must say an opposite, it was the Germans who adopted much of Roman tactics and equipments.
Couldn't wait for this!!!
HELMET VIEW!! nice addition man
Yeah that was awesome how did he do it?
Haha just a Photoshop layer put on top of the video? Still smart tho.
Great work!
I cant wait for the last part.!!!
Worth the wait!
Amazing video however lorica hamata was used in earlier Imperial and late Republican periods in large number as well as Segmentata
i love ur work!
If Medieval 3 ever comes out, you should make a series like This for Agincourt or Crecy.
mustarastas88 That would be awesome!!!
Imagine those nice, edited first-person views of french knights, crawling in the mud under a constant rain of arrows.
Great part!
11:47 Roman lawn darts! ... I'm picturing units of ten year olds chucking these things at the enemy ... Pratum Plumbata Velites, advance!
do you have patrion? I wan't to give you money, this is by far the best history history channel
Hey man, a new sub! I watched about 8 of your vids in a row, love your videos, keep up the good work :)
Great production! Keep up the good work!
I don't think the lorica segmentata was used all that much before this period compared to mail armor.
are you gonna make another about the other battles of Adrianople/Edirne? e.g. the Ottomans vs the Byanztines, or Russia against the Sultanate in the 19th C.?
This series gives a clear picture of the battle and everything surrounding it. And as a verry pleasurable extra your eyes get very well created background video of maps troop movements and fight scenes. Evryting is good in sink, adding to the awsomeness.
Documentaries like this would be praised by all viewers. Realy makes me think of the series "History Channel Decisive Battles" wich i loved when thay came out. I hope that this wil be pickd up and used for a real new documanary style!
Most documentaries use small bands of reanactors and showing the speaker sitting or standing on the battlesite today. This is silightly dull and even boring altho the information might be right, visualy it is utter crap! Not entertaining at all for youth and new historical enthusiasts.
Combinding Game visuals and good Information and a interesting start point in history. Wuld really help improving interest in History and Respect for all historical heritage.
Especially with isis destroying allot of eastern historical information artifacts and landmarks. This is the time to increase the interest to protect all historical for the future.
Once again a good job. Your PC seems quite capable of displaying such massive armies.
Look very similar to 2-nd Manassas. While ennemy is fixed fighting on one front, another force attack his flank and route him. :)
More!!!! i love these❤️
great video :)
fantastic! that helmet cam!
Just perfect!
14:50 was this a Hammer and Anvil? The cavalry didn't seem to come from behind.
WHERE IS PART 4 - I CANT FIND IT (Bad Try to Troll Oakley) Fantastic Video.
If only they made a middle earth one like this game
real nice
15,000 Romans present at Adrianople? That's about the same force available to Varus.
John Miller MUH LEGIONS VARUS
GIVE ME BACK MUH LEGIONS
This is epic
hey man, just wondering, how did you get your camera to move so slowly? even when i use the lowest speed in the sliders, the camera still moves too quick to get those really nice, slow pans like in your first shot.
I'm not sure but I guess some editor or mod perhaps.
WolfofRemusTW You will have to open up the Attila script file and adjust the camera setting manually there. I made a video a while back which shows how to get to the script file: ruclips.net/video/UgwvGT7ObXQ/видео.html
1:32 Are those white wrappings that the troops are wearing supposed to be socks?
+Sean Beahn those are wrapings around legs with tchick lether boots under so legs are proctected
you seem to be missing the music name at 14:17
Dig the helmet perception.
more of these
You da real mvp!
More battles
what video editor did you use to make this?
***** PowerDirector10, its a mid tier editor
A W E S O M E
Love these historical ones and the points of view of soldiers ;P
how do you switch in the body of an soldier?