@@makemoneywoodworking I should also mention how satisfying making things is. There is nothing quite like finishing a project and stepping back and saying something like "Now there is this crate where there was none before! This I have done this mine own hands!"😆 It beats the hell out of typing all day.
You’re doing what you love. That’s more than 90 some percent of people can say. And if you make a dollar, you’re a professional. Congratulations and thanks for the advice.
I just found your channel recently and I'm really loving the approach you are taking with the financial aspect and sharing all of that info. I haven't seen any other channels taking this exact approach, other than maybe in a video here and there, and it is very insightful for a beginner like myself. I also like the simplicity of some of the products you are making and that you share where you sell them. I hope you continue to be profitable in your business as well as continue to build your channel and make more videos! Thank you for sharing with us!
Most encouraging comment ever. Thank you!!! You can always keep me motivated by liking & commenting on all videos as well as sharing my channel/videos with others that might benefit as well. Also, if you have any questions or ideas on a specific project, those comments are appreciated as well. Best of luck on your future Woodworking endeavors!!!
good video. I made Steve's crates and put "aged" fruit packaging labels on one side. I treated with a walnut stain and sealed with a coat of spar poly urethane. I sold only one and it was for $40 for a retirement present. I gave the others away to close friends and I have a couple I have kept for myself. I believe I may make more in the spring. The stain and poly give it the perception of furniture, and the aged fruit packing label makes it look chic. I'll post again after I find out if I can sell more at the higher price.
Hello MW The 1st piece you use to get the measurement for the Rest of your CUTS is called the TEMPLATE .You double check it,s correct size .&Write Template piece on it.
love it good place for me to start not for the money but i love working with timber the things you can make is only limited by your imagination keep posting more pls
My apologies if already mentioned: On your mitre saw, add on some longer wooden boards to the existing fence (thus making the fence longer on both sides). Then you can put a stop block at the correct measurement, and not have to lay another board on top of the one you are cutting to match it. You can easily just batch out repeated cuts to the exact measurement and save a LOT of time.
Agreed. Time to make repeated cuts seems like the easiest way to speed things up. Once the shop stops being an ongoing mess, I'll definitely get this figured out. Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking When making repeated cuts like that just tack a piece of wood on the end of your first board so it hangs down a bit. Like a push block. Then you do not have to fuss with getting it aligned. And as far as the longer boards for the miter saw I do not do this. It looks like there isn't room for it. The reason I do not do it is I end up moving my miter saw around a little bit because I am a little tight on space. As long as you have something to the left that is on the same plane as the base of your miter saw you are good. That is also why a saw buck works so well. And a tip on safety. Resawing with a table saw is pretty dangerous. Over 60,000 people get hand injures on a table saw every year. Notice in your video how the back end of the board is riding up. Google table saw kickback injuries, it will rid you of resawing on the tablesaw. At a minimum if you have to do this. Figure out a clamp on your fence to keep the board from riding up. Lastly. Wear a dust mask. Sorry to harp, but I made all the mistake already for you already. OK, one last tip. You could make the side boards for your boxes (that I like a lot) with pallet wood. And it is already cut to the thickness for the (non handle) sides. I would leave them rough for a bit of character.
OK, one other last thing. You could cut the handles with a properly sized jig, and spiral up or downcut router bit, and a collet. This would dramatically reduce time, and increase finish quality. And you could use a 1/8 - 3/8 " round over bit to make the handle have a better feel.
Thanks for the info. I'll pass on googling injuries though and take your word for it. I don't like re-sawing on the table saw either. I'll definitely look into ways I can make it safer. I'm going to get on the dust mask of sorts too. Thanks for the comments and concern. Much appreciated!!
Thankssssss for being so honest on the end hourly rate. I think its important woodworkers think about it as i watch manyyyyy and KNOW they r actually losing money. Batching is the only answer i have seen and your comments on that should be paid attention to 😁
You are obviously correct that batching is an efficient way of manufacturing................ Until you make a mistake then everything you've made is scrap
I agree to an extent. One way to combat this would be to build one first without batching and work out the kinks. For most mistakes, everything won't be scrap but portions of it for sure. Taking time and watching my videos over and over should help😉
Thank you for not claiming you can make a fortune doing woodworking. A lot of these youtubers claim you can make $$$ from this project or that project. And if you already have a well assembled workshop that is true but for the average person just starting out like you it's a process "building" on previous success and even failures. Dont be afraid to check out culled lumber at your local Lowes or Home depot, you can save up to 75% on wood but you might lose about 25% of material so you might save 50% overall. I just priced these out at HD and the cost to build with pine and 3/4 ply is about $5-6 each and oak is about $25-30 each. Oak plywood is $90 and you get 16 crates from 1 sheet but the slats precut 1/2 inch x 2 are about $20. I dont have a way to rip thicker pieces yet. But I do have a finish nailer. The pine ones sell for $10-20 but the oak can go for $75-90 for the same work a better profit margin. There are a bunch of people making these around me so I have to make them a little different and better then the others.
I'm enjoying this channel. Not a new woodworker. But I enjoy simple projects. And I'm interested in batching some things out for my booth I have in an antique mall.
Yeah, a few of my projects might suit your space well. I'd say with the crates, you may want to look at Steve Ramsey's "antique" prints the adds to his boxes to give them a different vibe. My simple serving trays (EP. 3) might work too. Best of luck!!!
@@makemoneywoodworking I feel you. I need to sneak into my garage to actually get something done. I never get enough time because of my wife and kids. I love them but they make me crazy when it comes to time management 🤪
Corner clamps X 4 is the secret to high speed box making. I've been a coffin maker over 45 years. A coffin is nothing more than a very expensive strong box. My advice when making any batch of components is always make several extra to replace components that maybe don't make the grade for a reason.
@@makemoneywoodworking I make a lot of videos and do ok. I have all the tools i could ever need but your video quality will take you far. its something I need to work on for sure. Keep up the good work. What do you think your next tool will be?
Yes, I did go big and purchased a nice dslr which helps, but I have to focus on the actual content. My next tool will probably be for pocket holes. I'm hoping that will also open up the doors to lots of projects as well.
And as far as video quality, I am also talking about your stile and editing. Most people dont know the behind the scene of making even a simple video for RUclips.
Just discovered your channel. Maybe not interesting for a working pro but enjoyable and helpful for beginners like myself. Your income per hour will increase as you get additional power equipment. Anything you make beats working at a fast food business. You are learning with every project. Best of luck!
I just built 50 of this thin slate crates from 2x4 lumber on a job site table saw with Steve Ramsey's plans for our retail store in Pueblo, Co called Blue Bison Soapery. i also built 6 tables from Steve's plans that hold the products.
@@makemoneywoodworking we are using them for product display in the store. I would have had to buy them for $18 each for the heavy duty style and I built it all out of culled lumber.
band saw would help speed things too. the slim board could be cut in one pass. Router could help with the handles and could give a curve so it's easier on the fingers to lift them when full of records.
I hope to get a bandsaw, one day. I was able to purchase a router in one of the following episodes and went back and routed the handles of the crates I didn't sell. Thanks for the comment!
Great job. I have the same table saw and also did Steve’s crates. I ripped the slats to less than 3 1/2 in. wide. Then I raised the blade all the way up for re-sawing. Use one of the boards as a sacrificial push stick. I’ve gotten kickback when doing the half way up and flip method but never yet with going straight through. Keep the sacrificial push stick so you can use its dimensions for this project in the future. Aaaand, you can line the gap in the sacrificial push stick on the blade and butt up the guide rail for quick set up. Last thing. I also use a feather board when re-sawing these slats. Harbor freight had a nice one for cheap.
Yes, this is especially true when making repeated cuts as my mind will tend to wander if I'm not intentionally paying attention 👍. There were definitely times when the board being ripped wanted to push up. Great Point!
Great to hear. Hopefully you'll be inspired to build a project and sell it or at least join me on my woodworking journey. I still consider myself a beginner and gladly accept advise/suggestions/critiques on how I can make my content better. Thanks again!!
Good work man!! Keep doing what your doing!! Yes labour is long because you don’t have the faster tools such as a nail gun and clamps. Looking forward to more small cost projects so I can make some $$$
I hope you do keep the channel going. It's a great idea and an unbelievably refreshing take compared to all the channels that seem to be full of Festool, Sawstop, and all the clamps one could ever need. A suggestion for you on streamlining that build for production though. One of the first rules is "move stuff less" and in your case "make fewer cuts". For example, you'd get quite a bit of time back by changing the order of operations. You cut 1x6s to length, then to width, then to half thickness (with what looked like a total of 4 passes by the time you cleaned up saw marks). Instead you could have first ripped your 1x6s to width, then resawn, then cut to length. Cut additional multiples by stacking 3 boards deep instead of 2 (six deep after resawing). If I'm doing the math right that reduces the number of tool operations from 508 to 108. Using a featherboard made out of scrap (I'd probably make one out of 2x for double height and better control) and centering the blade in the thickness would have allowed a single cut per board to resaw. I'll admit that's a bit scary until you've got a little experience with it though. However it would have lowered your total number of cuts all the way to 56. That's approaching a 90% reduction in saw operations. Some of the passes take longer, but it's still a huge time win. I'm curious, you said in several other comments that you could have done this in less time with more clamps, but I didn't actually see where you were using clamps other than the drill and jigsaw stage? Btw, you might also have been able to stack sides a couple deep and save operations there too as long as you didn't get too much blade deflection. Cuts would be slower, but you'd reduce the layout time by a factor of 2 or 3.
Thank you for the comment and suggestions. Clamps might have made the steve ramsey crates quicker as well as the blanket ladder assembly. Do you have suggestions of a specific homemade feather board via youtube I could watch? Thanks again!!!
Just took a look and a lot of the videos are getting way fancier than they need to. Check out this video of Steve Ramsey's at 5:00 ruclips.net/video/KDf_nAimxFc/видео.html then maybe take a look at this one if you want to see some cuts made although he's being surprisingly precise for something that doesn't need to be ruclips.net/video/ilIHYEjrpP4/видео.html and makes a much shorter, more complicated version than you should start with Bolts in the miter slot are certainly more convenient for adjustment, and eventually you may want to make that type, but really all you need are a couple boards long enough to reach the edges of your table so you can clamp it down. That will make more sense if you look at the pictures on the second page of this article www.finewoodworking.com/membership/pdf/23670/011187070.pdf If you use a featherboard with a saw cutting all the way through the material, make sure none of the fingers touch the board being cut past where the blade rises above the table. When you're using it, If the blade cuts all the way through and the fingers pinch the kerf closed your best case is burnt wood, and kickback is likely. Keep it in front of the blade and everything is cool. The reason I suggested using 2x material is that with a board standing on edge to resaw, you run some risk of accidentaly tilting it away from the fence. The thicker featherboard will help with that.
Nice! Selling at very decent price! Hope you got a nail gun! I've been wanting to make some, think I just might get to it now. Enjoyed video! In the mood to make some sawdust now. Good job!
great video i just got into woodworking and was gifted an older delta table saw from my wife's uncle, after a few practice cuts it just felt dangerous to use, after further inspection of the saw, i found that there was no riving knife, it looked like 1/2 of the throat plate was missing so off to lowes and was able to catch the Metabo that was 569 on sale for 329 so i bought it, what a difference. i saw a bunch of Steves videos and also am thinking about his course, i did end up making the beginner crate, it came out ok, and i just actually made a second free style crate, smaller for my extra push sticks, push block and frame strap. great video
Yeah, crates/boxes are great starter projects as you need precise cuts and you have to focus on keeping things square. Let me know how your crates turn out and which crates you end up making. Hoping to finish up my next video this weekend. Thanks for the comment! Enjoy the hobby!
@@makemoneywoodworking I started with the simple one, then I dud a freestyle bench top one for my push stiks, push blocks and frame strap. I also just made 2 out of 5 yard die, that's all the 4x4 I had laying around.
@@makemoneywoodworking we do a bunch if camping Lowes has 4x4 x8 for like 15 bucks maybe 5 or so sets a board maybe 15 or 20 a set might be able to sell a few sets.10 bucks for the pressure treated 4x4x8
Just a little trick about slipage when using glue while hammering nails....table salt. The grit from the salt will take away most if not all of the movement while you set and hammer the nails in. :)
@@badmandansanchez1823 - nope...the salt eventually dissolves into the glue as it dries. Just don't pour a ton on it. Just sprinkle some over it, enough for traction.
Really enjoying your videos! I hope to do something similar. I’m a teacher that doesn’t have a lot of extra disposable income but would love to work with my hands and support a new hobby. Please keep making more videos!
Yeah, us teachers need extra income. I wonder what percentage of woodworkers that do it to generate extra income are teachers. My guess is it represents highest occupation. Keep at it!
@@makemoneywoodworking can't believe that you are both teachers. I teach 6th grade myself and do some wood working projects mostly just things for the house etc but have wanted to turn it into more.
Thanks. Yeah, it must be lighting in my shop. When I increase/decrease the shutter speed to make the video not washed out, the horizontal shadow appears. If I lower the speed, the shadow disappears, but my video is washed out. Could it be another setting?
It’s a combo of shutter speed, iso, and frame rate. Shutter speed should be twice the frame rate... if shooting at 30fps, shutter speed should be 60 (24 fps can be 1/50). You can get away with slight variants, but that’s the main rule. As for wash out or “overexposure,” check your ISO or aperture. Decrease your ISO, or narrow your aperture. Yay exposure triangle!
Dispite you getting just a little flack over your pricing, I commend you for the most realistic calculation of what you spent as well as the revenue you are attempting to generate. When I first started doing farmers markets and the like I spent a lot of time just trying to get the cost of my materials back on enough gas to get home and it was a good day. As your skill improves so does your ability to charge more. I think that $20 is a reasonable amount for your product. The problem that you have currently is lack of tools (not a big deal) as well as being inefficient (big deal). Now just to be clear I mean how you are doing things, not how fast you are doing things, although if you can improve your efficiency generally your throughput will improve. I am pretty sure that if you were well organized you could easily do the same build in less than 8 hours. You obviously did the planning required to reduce material waste. Two of the best suggestions already mentioned is use stop blocks and use a router and template to cut your handles. On the chop saw side do yourself a favor and build yourself a proper mitre station that incorporates stop blocks and a tape. It will pay you back every time you use it. Another thing you should look at is your. Shop layout. I try and arrange my projects so that all cuts that are required to be done on the table saw are done there, then move on to the mitre station, then do all the jointing etc. It just saves so much time wandering around the shop and moving material. The goal is to be as efficient as possible. What does making 14 boxes in say six hours do to your bottom line? Well it vastly increases your calculated hourly rate and moves this project from not really profitable to not to shabby. If you would like a few suggestions on jigs just let me know.
Something cool you might be able to do to increase revenue per crate is to print and transfer images of ol' time logos or pictures of farmers/orchard crate images. Plenty of places on youtube with instructions on how to do it.
Most definitely. In keeping with the idea of only using revenue from projects that fund more tools, I'd have to factor in the cost of the printer, ink cartridges and computer, which is a ways away at this point. I'm trying to keep costs, materials etc. very concrete to keep the integrity of the channel. Definitely something to mention though as a way to increase profit margin. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated!!!
@@makemoneywoodworking you could also just factor in the cost of it being printed for you , like for instance a full color sheet printed for 10 cents seems easier to track then the cost of all items associated with it. then youd just have to consider materials used specifically for transferring it. enjoying the videos btw.
@@makemoneywoodworking The labels I used I got from the site that Steve mentioned in his video and I went to staples and had them print them on a light card stock to give them some durability. Don't remember the exact price but color prints are not pricey like they used to be and card stock is not that much.
And you should add a 1/4 hand router and some bits. Just for round over to start... you could have used in your handles. Makes a huge difference and a good up charge depending on your customer. I’d make them one of each and let them feel the difference... and without a doubt they would up grade. They would be silly not to.
You could do with investing in a trim router at some point along with some basic router bits. It would have been nice (and user friendly) to have softened up the edges of the holes/handles.
Agreed! I'd like to add at least a trim router sooner than later. In the meantime, I have to stick with the sander and 80 grit paper to round the edges.
Great video and everybody should make these crates for storage in the garage or home. I don't know who Steve Ramsey is and by giving him credit you are presumably suggesting that this crate is his design. However if that were true he would be at least 200 years old. These crates quite literally are identical to any crate used in the last 150 years to ship products ranging from fresh produce, milk, or even whiskey.
I really benefit from the breakdown you do at the end. I like the crates, but unless I could come up with a low-cost way to boost the per unit price, I don't see making them anytime soon. On the flip side, I think if you paired them with other decorative projects, creating a sort of "line," you might be able to boost profit ( like shelves with spacing fit to the crates?). Something to think about which is generally a bit beyond me and mostly falls to my wife for ideas. Cheers! And thanks for the video. It's always educational.
Yeah, the only other way I can think of trimming the crate cost is using old fence wood or other free wood. And you're right about making combinations of projects and selling as a unit. Definitely something I'm going to move towards when the numbers align. This includes your idea of adding crates or smaller boxes on the blanket ladders....but alas I'll have to wait until the stars align. Great points for sure. I appreciate the dialogue. Gets me salivating for more woodworking projects!
I bought a 16ga (bosch brand) for the first two cornhole sets. Pretty expensive but I can use the batteries I have with my drills. Definitely a good tool to have around.
@@makemoneywoodworking After building the first 50 I use a Bostitch stapler I have another hundred to build in the next week. I found that the stapler is better than the nailer, plus I glue the slats it was faster for Assembly.
@@makemoneywoodworking if you just screw down your saw and then make you an "L" shaped stop to screw down you wouldn't need a dedicated saw station. Yes it's take about 10 minutes to set up, but with production work you'll eat that ten minutes in saving measuring or lining up cuts in just a few repetition
That's a great idea, especially now that I have purchased a nail gun from an episode after this one. Both of those would help speed things up. Thanks for the suggestion!
Just found your video series and like the idea of batching out basic projects for a little extra hobby money. I’m surprised you can sell these crates for $20 when craft stores sell similar crates for around $12. How long did they take to sell and did you sell them all? What kind of product staging do you do for sales photos?
These haven't sold as well as other items on my channel. I had a guy request a few of these for vinyl records which can get heavy when loaded up. I'm not sure if I'd trust a $12 box at Michaels. I've sold things at craft fairs where people are there to buy local goods. That's the best place to sell these. My sister in-law helps me stage them as she has a knack for it. Check out my tips before running a craft booth. Thanks for the question!
The dimensions of the crates and the orientation of the slates are in such a way that the records sit perpendicular to the bottom slats. The dimensions of the crates only allow records to be placed in one way👍
You should consider having a link to each tool you have purchased throughout the whole time. That way people might see it. They could even be Amazon affiliate links. 😏 maybe list which episode your purchased it in.
In a few of the first episodes, I had a link to a list, but I haven't kept up with it. I tried looking into affiliate links but I couldn't get it figured out. I'll have to look into it again. Thanks for the reminder!
That price point is definitely compelling. I'm trying to hold off on buying from harbor freight because of a past bad experience but $90 definitely makes it something to reconsider. Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated!
@@makemoneywoodworking I've had good experience with both of the products here, my pancake compressor lasted me about 8 yrs before springing a leak and than it was an easy part to replace. So its still kicking 10 yrs now
Gotcha. I had a bad experience with the recip saw and fein type saw but then again, I've seen plenty of people on youtube promote various tools from harbor freight. I might just have to grow a pair and take the plunge.
I've purchased numerous tools from harbor freight and only had issues with 2. The reciprocating saw and an angle grinder. I would not hesitate to continue to buy tools from them. I have the small brad nailer and have no issues. Get the 20% off coupon and try them out when its financially feasible for your channel.
Two votes against the recip saw and two votes for the brad nailer. Might have to make the trip out there. Not sure I need it for the next project, but definitely a future one. Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very inspirational! I love Steve Ramsey and it's great to see his work being taken to the next level and earn you a few bucks. Maybe you mentioned already somewhere else but did you consider trying Etsy or just FB marketplace for now?
At this point, I'm sticking with fb marketplace and local fb groups. If I ever get enough inventory of smaller items I may consider trying Etsy again. Have you had any success with Etsy? If so, what sells for you? Thanks for the comment and encouragement!
@@makemoneywoodworking Hey, thanks for the response. No, I haven't ever sold a thing but plan to in the spring next year. I made a few planter boxes this summer for myself and want to see how well they survive over the winter before I try to sell some based on those designs. They are economical from a material and assembly perspective I think. This video of yours gave me encouragement to go for it!
Awesome. Glad to hear it. I'm constantly going back and forth on whether or not I should keep the channel going as it does take up a lot of time, so thank you again. Let me know how it goes when you finally take the plunge. Best of luck!
@@makemoneywoodworking you have to keep this channel going. I just found this channel. I got a ton of woodworking tools from my father and know the basics of how to use them but never really sure about how to profit from using them. Going back now to binge watch every episode and plan to do so e if the projects for sure. Keep em comming!
Lots of hate out there, but I believe people will pay for a "custom" piece that perfectly suits their needs. Even if this "sells for less at Sam's club" or someone can get one that has rotten fruit stains for free - a new, custom made crate is certainly worth a few bucks!! Keep up the great content.
Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully when I have a booth next year, someone will buy other things and add a crate to fit the other items in when leaving😁🤷🏼♂️
From what I remember, yes. Although, if the end product was something more in the fine woodworking realm, I'd probably sand more. One day I hope to make something of that quality.😁
If it's not one thing it's something else. Currently waiting for a friend to help.outnwith some electrical, which puts hold on insulation, plywood walls, french cleats, cabinets...etc etc.🙄
Thanks for the question. I sell on local fb groups and on fb marketplace. My next episode posts tomorrow. After the project, I give some tips and tricks when selling on fb. Stay tuned...
Another good video, are people buying those crates? Seems like they would just buy a mill crate or similar for around 10 bucks.. also I would say don't focus on the negative comments, they will always be there.
I have one customer that wanted them this particular size to fit vinyl records. If you went smaller dimensions on the plywood and slats, you could make more with the same cost and lower the price, but probably not all the way down to $10. As far as addressing negative comments, I tried to flip it positively and mention earlier videos in the series as the channel is meant to build on each episode. Then again, give it time and I may agree with you. Thanks for the comment!
You need to radius the hand grip holes with a router, both internally & externally. Offer crates sawn side IN or 0UT . Also consider making them both sides planed.
-I hadn't thought about crates side in...thank you for that! -Unfortunately, I haven't allotted money in the ongoing purse to afford a planer, so they'll have to remain "rustic" for now. -Since this episode, I have added a trim router to the Woodworking Monetized shop and can go back chamfer the handles. (I only have a chamfer bit at this time, but it's better than nothing) Thanks for the comments/suggestions!!
Yes, I need to get my shop organized. Because right now, I'm constantly moving things around. Currently waiting for a friend to help with electrical work, then I can add my plywood walls and get a designated miter station set up. Thanks for the comment!!
Sorry to have to tell you this, but while I was walking through Sam's Club this afternoon, (01.27.2021) I saw crates like these selling for $9.98. Made in the USA.
I know. That's the same reason I don't make regular picnic tables because they can be made so cheaply. My two saving graces (hopefully) are: 1) supporting local business (me). 2) maybe mine are exact dimensions to fit a particular item (example. Vinyl records) At least I had fun making the video👍
@@makemoneywoodworking You forgot some items: 3.) Your crates will actually hold the vinyl records. 4.) Put together with Titebond II and nails and not some cheap adhesive that will turn brittle over time 5.) Individually Sanded Just to name a few.
@@makemoneywoodworking You're welcome, by the way I subscribed as I've become more interested in monetizing my wood working hobby since I'm almost done with my Phd (Projects Half Done) around the house with only Kitchen Cabinets / Remodel to finish and some smaller projects (Bedroom His/Her Dresser). Everything else in the house I've already made concerning furniture less items you sit on. Fellow WoodWorkers need encouragement not hate and we need to take it easy on the criticism and keep it constructive. For example: Those slats you we're cutting came with little support thus increased risk - consider making a throat plate for your saw either out of hardwood or mdf. If it's like mine and is supported by a ledge, add screws in 4 corners to set the height and send your blade through it providing zero clearance which will provide for additional support on those tight slat cuts. I'm spoiled because I've been at it a long time. I would cut those on my bandsaw and plane them to the needed thickness. Keep your original throat plate for angled cuts (45°).
It's been difficult as of late with house projects and kids, but I do have the materials for the next video and since it's multiple projects, I have one commissioned piece done already. Thanks for your patience but I understand if you'd rather unsubscribe.
Someone else mentioned a stapler. If you go to the big box stores and look at their boxes, planters, etc. that use thin stock like your slats, they're always stapled. The staples probably offer more gripping power than brads on thin stock like that. I bought one thats not powered for staples/brads. Make sure you read the directions completely. Screwed up tons of boards because I didn't load some stuff on the right side lol.
Good to know. I'm hoping that the combination of glue and nails will give the crates enough strength. However, if I ever go without glue, it sounds like a stapler is the best bet. What brand stapler did you go with?
@@makemoneywoodworking www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Manual-Staple-Gun/3365340 pretty cheap. easy to use as long as you do it right. (if they keep looking Fd up once stapled/nailed, probably isnt set up right). Also, for thin stocks, they usually sell long strips that are similar dimensions to what you cut, but they're near the moulding section instead of by all the other regular lumber.
Interesting channel. I like the idea of building a shop from the revenue of your previous projects. I have a question though - have you actually managed to sell all the stuff you built so far (boxes, racks, benches,..), or are the revenue numbers just theoretical? No judgement - just would be nice to know the reality. If you actually managed to sell them, it would be nice if you could tell us something about it. I think it would make an interesting video for those who might think about starting from scratch themselves - not to see just the "making" side (with "random" numbers), but also the monetization part of this venture (maybe something didn't go as you expected, maybe you had to adjust the prices, where did you find buyers, selling online vs local, maybe some tips you learned along the way, did you manage to sell everything? etc..). Also, I can only recommend you to buy a nail gun and compressor when you can afford it. I bought a cheap small(6l) Gude compressor with a nail gun and it works great. (about 130€ for both). You won't do much else with such a small compressor, but it works well for nailer and blowing air. And it charges full in about 30 sec. - so it's ready really quickly when you need it, without having to wait few minutes on a larger tank compressor. Also trim router is a nice idea as well - I'd go with a cheap one (about 50€, maybe less from china) to get those details like round edges and possibly some groves etc... Good luck with your future projects.
After each episode, I'm definitely going to add more information for viewers. And after my 10th video, I plan on give my a recap. Yes, theoretical vs. actual will be included. Thank you for your input. It's good to hear a perspective outside of myself and my wife. Much appreciated! I hope to get another video out in the next few weeks.
I just checked again because that did seem high. If I recall, I may have bought these for less, but I think I misplaced the receipt and just found a comparable package from one of the big boxes stores. Definitely an area you could cut costs. Sorry for the confusion!
Brad nailer would be faster but probably not as sturdy as traditional nails. I've seen a notable difference in longevity in my raised garden boxes that did not get Brad nailed together.
The only problem with this is that I couldn't get someone to buy one of these much less 14. I can make stuff like this all day long. I just can't sell it.
It's definitely a niche item. Maybe you could pair it with something else. My sister in-law had the idea of adding a trendy pillow or blanket and sell it as a set. Just a thought.
Yes, but I haven't sold all of them. I think $18 is a better price point but only if you can get your costs down. Or if you're okay with less profit, I suppose. Thanks for the question.
You should have invested in a nail gun at the start the time saved alone would have paid for them. And you can easily use again in the future. Investing back into yourself to save time is the real deal. Could have easily went from under 20 an hour to over 40 an hour, easily. You know how long it took you to hammer, so we can leave it at that.
I agree, however, I wanted to show aspiring woodworkers that they could start with just $200. There's plenty of channels out there that show projects completed with any and all tools at their disposal. When I started out and watched videos with festool and sawstops and router bits galore, it was frustrating to me. So, enter Woodworking Monetized, a channel where you're only allowed to use what you've made from the previous projects. Now that I have a nail gun, any previous project made will be batched out a lot quicker....and I've earned it. Thanks for the comment!!
@@makemoneywoodworking i'd assume those other ww channels were already in the ww business and decided to youtube as a side hustle. now to see on ep 1 what you started with!
This is one other factor you need to calculate:
Working for yourself: PRICELESS
I agree. I would much rather work for less money but for myself, especially since this is just a hobby that earns extra income as opposed to a living.
@@makemoneywoodworking I should also mention how satisfying making things is. There is nothing quite like finishing a project and stepping back and saying something like "Now there is this crate where there was none before! This I have done this mine own hands!"😆 It beats the hell out of typing all day.
I would suggest that you make a jig to hold your ends while you nail on slats. Easy to do with a piece of ply and a few scraps.
You’re doing what you love. That’s more than 90 some percent of people can say. And if you make a dollar, you’re a professional. Congratulations and thanks for the advice.
Thank you for the kind words!
I just found your channel recently and I'm really loving the approach you are taking with the financial aspect and sharing all of that info. I haven't seen any other channels taking this exact approach, other than maybe in a video here and there, and it is very insightful for a beginner like myself. I also like the simplicity of some of the products you are making and that you share where you sell them. I hope you continue to be profitable in your business as well as continue to build your channel and make more videos! Thank you for sharing with us!
Most encouraging comment ever. Thank you!!! You can always keep me motivated by liking & commenting on all videos as well as sharing my channel/videos with others that might benefit as well.
Also, if you have any questions or ideas on a specific project, those comments are appreciated as well. Best of luck on your future Woodworking endeavors!!!
good video. I made Steve's crates and put "aged" fruit packaging labels on one side. I treated with a walnut stain and sealed with a coat of spar poly urethane. I sold only one and it was for $40 for a retirement present. I gave the others away to close friends and I have a couple I have kept for myself. I believe I may make more in the spring. The stain and poly give it the perception of furniture, and the aged fruit packing label makes it look chic. I'll post again after I find out if I can sell more at the higher price.
Yeah, seems like a small amount of extra effort for a much higher price point. I'll have to look into this. Thanks again!
In making many of the same things, create a fixture or a jig. A 2x3 hacked, whacked, and screwed would give a platform to support the crate pieces.
Hello MW The 1st piece you use to get the measurement for the Rest of your CUTS is called the TEMPLATE .You double check it,s correct size .&Write Template piece on it.
love it good place for me to start not for the money but i love working with timber the things you can make is only limited by your imagination keep posting more pls
Doesn't get any easier than this...maybe jenga. Thanks for the encouragement!
My apologies if already mentioned: On your mitre saw, add on some longer wooden boards to the existing fence (thus making the fence longer on both sides). Then you can put a stop block at the correct measurement, and not have to lay another board on top of the one you are cutting to match it. You can easily just batch out repeated cuts to the exact measurement and save a LOT of time.
Agreed. Time to make repeated cuts seems like the easiest way to speed things up. Once the shop stops being an ongoing mess, I'll definitely get this figured out. Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking When making repeated cuts like that just tack a piece of wood on the end of your first board so it hangs down a bit. Like a push block. Then you do not have to fuss with getting it aligned. And as far as the longer boards for the miter saw I do not do this. It looks like there isn't room for it. The reason I do not do it is I end up moving my miter saw around a little bit because I am a little tight on space. As long as you have something to the left that is on the same plane as the base of your miter saw you are good. That is also why a saw buck works so well. And a tip on safety. Resawing with a table saw is pretty dangerous. Over 60,000 people get hand injures on a table saw every year. Notice in your video how the back end of the board is riding up. Google table saw kickback injuries, it will rid you of resawing on the tablesaw. At a minimum if you have to do this. Figure out a clamp on your fence to keep the board from riding up. Lastly. Wear a dust mask. Sorry to harp, but I made all the mistake already for you already. OK, one last tip. You could make the side boards for your boxes (that I like a lot) with pallet wood. And it is already cut to the thickness for the (non handle) sides. I would leave them rough for a bit of character.
OK, one other last thing. You could cut the handles with a properly sized jig, and spiral up or downcut router bit, and a collet. This would dramatically reduce time, and increase finish quality. And you could use a 1/8 - 3/8 " round over bit to make the handle have a better feel.
Thanks for the info. I'll pass on googling injuries though and take your word for it. I don't like re-sawing on the table saw either. I'll definitely look into ways I can make it safer. I'm going to get on the dust mask of sorts too. Thanks for the comments and concern. Much appreciated!!
Now that I have a chamfer bit, I went back and cleaned up the handles. I would like to get an 1/8" round over bit soon too. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thankssssss for being so honest on the end hourly rate. I think its important woodworkers think about it as i watch manyyyyy and KNOW they r actually losing money.
Batching is the only answer i have seen and your comments on that should be paid attention to 😁
Thanks Tim. I think it's important to known that at my level, no one is quitting their day job.😉
Thanks for the kind words!
You are obviously correct that batching is an efficient way of manufacturing................
Until you make a mistake then everything you've made is scrap
I agree to an extent. One way to combat this would be to build one first without batching and work out the kinks.
For most mistakes, everything won't be scrap but portions of it for sure. Taking time and watching my videos over and over should help😉
@@steveoutdoors9156 i always do a prototype first and get my wife and kids to critic it, their toughhhhh judges.
My wife is always skeptical of my ideas 🤷🏼♂️
Thank you for not claiming you can make a fortune doing woodworking.
A lot of these youtubers claim you can make $$$ from this project or that project. And if you already have a well assembled workshop that is true but for the average person just starting out like you it's a process "building" on previous success and even failures.
Dont be afraid to check out culled lumber at your local Lowes or Home depot, you can save up to 75% on wood but you might lose about 25% of material so you might save 50% overall.
I just priced these out at HD and the cost to build with pine and 3/4 ply is about $5-6 each and oak is about $25-30 each.
Oak plywood is $90 and you get 16 crates from 1 sheet but the slats precut 1/2 inch x 2 are about $20. I dont have a way to rip thicker pieces yet. But I do have a finish nailer.
The pine ones sell for $10-20 but the oak can go for $75-90 for the same work a better profit margin.
There are a bunch of people making these around me so I have to make them a little different and better then the others.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, it's definitely not a get-rich scheme. Some projects I make more money from the video.😁
Do you have a twin???? That was a cool video affect! Hey do you have to use glue AND nails? Asking for a friend...
Hey there. I need some more electrical work done. I will pay in money and food.
I'm enjoying this channel. Not a new woodworker. But I enjoy simple projects. And I'm interested in batching some things out for my booth I have in an antique mall.
Yeah, a few of my projects might suit your space well. I'd say with the crates, you may want to look at Steve Ramsey's "antique" prints the adds to his boxes to give them a different vibe.
My simple serving trays (EP. 3) might work too. Best of luck!!!
Nice. Thanks for taking out the music. Much better.
Nice work and special props for giving props to Ramsey or any other inspiration.
Thank you. Yeah, I'm no brilliant inventor, just a guy trying to support his hobby. Thanks for the comment!!
Props to giving him props for him giving props. Props!
What he said!😁
Best video yet! The costume changes are a true crowd pleaser!
Yeah, if my wife would let me get in the shop for more than 15 mins at a time, maybe I could actually get some work done
@@makemoneywoodworking I feel you. I need to sneak into my garage to actually get something done. I never get enough time because of my wife and kids. I love them but they make me crazy when it comes to time management 🤪
I usually just do what I'm told😉
Corner clamps X 4 is the secret to high speed box making. I've been a coffin maker over 45 years. A coffin is nothing more than a very expensive strong box. My advice when making any batch of components is always make several extra to replace components that maybe don't make the grade for a reason.
That's definitely something I've never thought of. Thanks for the perspective!
Great job. I like how each episode builds off previous ones,
Slowly but surely. Hopefully it will pick up as the tool collection increases. It's been a slow start for sure. Thanks for the kind words!
@@makemoneywoodworking I make a lot of videos and do ok. I have all the tools i could ever need but your video quality will take you far. its something I need to work on for sure. Keep up the good work. What do you think your next tool will be?
Yes, I did go big and purchased a nice dslr which helps, but I have to focus on the actual content. My next tool will probably be for pocket holes. I'm hoping that will also open up the doors to lots of projects as well.
@@makemoneywoodworking You will love the pocket hole jig I use mine almost every week.
And as far as video quality, I am also talking about your stile and editing. Most people dont know the behind the scene of making even a simple video for RUclips.
Nice build and video layout.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with led flickering.
Yeah, I've had some people mention it and I'm trying to eliminate it. I think I'm able to lessen it but not completely
Great job and great video! Also really glad to see Ryan from “The Office” making RUclips videos!!!
Ha! I've heard that before, but only a few times. Would it help if I frosted my hair?😁
@@makemoneywoodworking only if you’re going to work at a bowling alley at some point!! I like your videos, good stuff!! Keep them coming
Thank you sir. I wish you continued success for yourself!
Just discovered your channel. Maybe not interesting for a working pro but enjoyable and helpful for beginners like myself. Your income per hour will increase as you get additional power equipment.
Anything you make beats working at a fast food business. You are learning with every project. Best of luck!
Thanks for the encouragement. You're right, I'm not quitting my day job. Thanks for the support!
I just built 50 of this thin slate crates from 2x4 lumber on a job site table saw with Steve Ramsey's plans for our retail store in Pueblo, Co called Blue Bison Soapery. i also built 6 tables from Steve's plans that hold the products.
Nice! I'd be interested to know what they sell for and how quickly they go?
Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking we are using them for product display in the store. I would have had to buy them for $18 each for the heavy duty style and I built it all out of culled lumber.
Ah. I'd love to find me a store that would buy a bulk lot of mine but that's awesome that you can save that 💰. What kind of store?
Thumbs up!. Interesting and thought provoking.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Really appreciate your video…well done. You are so honest in what you say.
Thank you for the encouragement! It comes from being disheartened by lots of RUclips videos out there. 👍
band saw would help speed things too. the slim board could be cut in one pass. Router could help with the handles and could give a curve so it's easier on the fingers to lift them when full of records.
I hope to get a bandsaw, one day. I was able to purchase a router in one of the following episodes and went back and routed the handles of the crates I didn't sell.
Thanks for the comment!
Great job. I have the same table saw and also did Steve’s crates. I ripped the slats to less than 3 1/2 in. wide. Then I raised the blade all the way up for re-sawing. Use one of the boards as a sacrificial push stick. I’ve gotten kickback when doing the half way up and flip method but never yet with going straight through.
Keep the sacrificial push stick so you can use its dimensions for this project in the future. Aaaand, you can line the gap in the sacrificial push stick on the blade and butt up the guide rail for quick set up.
Last thing. I also use a feather board when re-sawing these slats. Harbor freight had a nice one for cheap.
Also, when making repeated cross cuts, its great to use the same piece to reference but even better to use a well clamped stop block. 👍
Yes, this is especially true when making repeated cuts as my mind will tend to wander if I'm not intentionally paying attention 👍. There were definitely times when the board being ripped wanted to push up. Great Point!
True, even with my limited tools I do have two clamps that would have worked in this case. Thanks for the comment!
Good job. I just ran across this video. I will go back and check out your others
Great to hear. Hopefully you'll be inspired to build a project and sell it or at least join me on my woodworking journey. I still consider myself a beginner and gladly accept advise/suggestions/critiques on how I can make my content better. Thanks again!!
I liked your video keep up the great work 👍
Thanks for the encouragement. I have some video recorded but need to edit it.
Good video! I enjoy the break down, really gives insight into the behind the scenes.
You gained a new subscriber sir.
Thank you for the encouragement. I'm definitely a niche channel, but I'm okay with that.
Thanks again!
Good work man!! Keep doing what your doing!! Yes labour is long because you don’t have the faster tools such as a nail gun and clamps.
Looking forward to more small cost projects so I can make some $$$
Thanks for the kind words. I've definitely got some more simple projects in my future, it's just difficult to keep the variety for all the viewers.
I hope you do keep the channel going. It's a great idea and an unbelievably refreshing take compared to all the channels that seem to be full of Festool, Sawstop, and all the clamps one could ever need.
A suggestion for you on streamlining that build for production though. One of the first rules is "move stuff less" and in your case "make fewer cuts". For example, you'd get quite a bit of time back by changing the order of operations. You cut 1x6s to length, then to width, then to half thickness (with what looked like a total of 4 passes by the time you cleaned up saw marks). Instead you could have first ripped your 1x6s to width, then resawn, then cut to length. Cut additional multiples by stacking 3 boards deep instead of 2 (six deep after resawing). If I'm doing the math right that reduces the number of tool operations from 508 to 108.
Using a featherboard made out of scrap (I'd probably make one out of 2x for double height and better control) and centering the blade in the thickness would have allowed a single cut per board to resaw. I'll admit that's a bit scary until you've got a little experience with it though. However it would have lowered your total number of cuts all the way to 56. That's approaching a 90% reduction in saw operations. Some of the passes take longer, but it's still a huge time win.
I'm curious, you said in several other comments that you could have done this in less time with more clamps, but I didn't actually see where you were using clamps other than the drill and jigsaw stage? Btw, you might also have been able to stack sides a couple deep and save operations there too as long as you didn't get too much blade deflection. Cuts would be slower, but you'd reduce the layout time by a factor of 2 or 3.
Thank you for the comment and suggestions. Clamps might have made the steve ramsey crates quicker as well as the blanket ladder assembly. Do you have suggestions of a specific homemade feather board via youtube I could watch? Thanks again!!!
Just took a look and a lot of the videos are getting way fancier than they need to.
Check out this video of Steve Ramsey's at 5:00 ruclips.net/video/KDf_nAimxFc/видео.html then maybe take a look at this one if you want to see some cuts made although he's being surprisingly precise for something that doesn't need to be ruclips.net/video/ilIHYEjrpP4/видео.html and makes a much shorter, more complicated version than you should start with
Bolts in the miter slot are certainly more convenient for adjustment, and eventually you may want to make that type, but really all you need are a couple boards long enough to reach the edges of your table so you can clamp it down. That will make more sense if you look at the pictures on the second page of this article www.finewoodworking.com/membership/pdf/23670/011187070.pdf
If you use a featherboard with a saw cutting all the way through the material, make sure none of the fingers touch the board being cut past where the blade rises above the table. When you're using it, If the blade cuts all the way through and the fingers pinch the kerf closed your best case is burnt wood, and kickback is likely. Keep it in front of the blade and everything is cool.
The reason I suggested using 2x material is that with a board standing on edge to resaw, you run some risk of accidentaly tilting it away from the fence. The thicker featherboard will help with that.
Nice! Selling at very decent price! Hope you got a nail gun! I've been wanting to make some, think I just might get to it now. Enjoyed video! In the mood to make some sawdust now. Good job!
Thank you for the kind words. I hope you have some success!
@@makemoneywoodworking very welcome and deserved!
excellent video, keep it up well done.
Thank you for the support. Really slow going as of late.
great video i just got into woodworking and was gifted an older delta table saw from my wife's uncle, after a few practice cuts it just felt dangerous to use, after further inspection of the saw, i found that there was no riving knife, it looked like 1/2 of the throat plate was missing so off to lowes and was able to catch the Metabo that was 569 on sale for 329 so i bought it, what a difference. i saw a bunch of Steves videos and also am thinking about his course, i did end up making the beginner crate, it came out ok, and i just actually made a second free style crate, smaller for my extra push sticks, push block and frame strap. great video
Yeah, crates/boxes are great starter projects as you need precise cuts and you have to focus on keeping things square. Let me know how your crates turn out and which crates you end up making. Hoping to finish up my next video this weekend.
Thanks for the comment! Enjoy the hobby!
@@makemoneywoodworking I started with the simple one, then I dud a freestyle bench top one for my push stiks, push blocks and frame strap. I also just made 2 out of 5 yard die, that's all the 4x4 I had laying around.
Nice! I'm definitely thinking about yard dice for a future project, if the finances pan out.
@@makemoneywoodworking we do a bunch if camping Lowes has 4x4 x8 for like 15 bucks maybe 5 or so sets a board maybe 15 or 20 a set might be able to sell a few sets.10 bucks for the pressure treated 4x4x8
What do you use to make the dots? A wood burning tool or just paint?
Just a little trick about slipage when using glue while hammering nails....table salt. The grit from the salt will take away most if not all of the movement while you set and hammer the nails in. :)
Yeah, someone mentioned that trick on a different video. Seems like a lost cost, high benefit addition. Thanks for the suggestion!
Does the salt not effect the bond of the glue adversely? Have not heard of that method.
@@badmandansanchez1823 - nope...the salt eventually dissolves into the glue as it dries. Just don't pour a ton on it. Just sprinkle some over it, enough for traction.
Really enjoying your videos! I hope to do something similar. I’m a teacher that doesn’t have a lot of extra disposable income but would love to work with my hands and support a new hobby. Please keep making more videos!
Yeah, us teachers need extra income. I wonder what percentage of woodworkers that do it to generate extra income are teachers. My guess is it represents highest occupation.
Keep at it!
@@makemoneywoodworking can't believe that you are both teachers. I teach 6th grade myself and do some wood working projects mostly just things for the house etc but have wanted to turn it into more.
We are underpaid! I hope my projects can help/inspire you. Have you made anything yet that has sold well?
GOOD JOB BRO ........... THANKS
Thanks for the encouragement!
Check your shutter speed to eliminate the flicker from your lights 🙂. Cool video!
Are you talking about the black horizontal line shadows that move up in some shots?
@@makemoneywoodworking yes.
Thanks. Yeah, it must be lighting in my shop. When I increase/decrease the shutter speed to make the video not washed out, the horizontal shadow appears. If I lower the speed, the shadow disappears, but my video is washed out. Could it be another setting?
It’s a combo of shutter speed, iso, and frame rate. Shutter speed should be twice the frame rate... if shooting at 30fps, shutter speed should be 60 (24 fps can be 1/50). You can get away with slight variants, but that’s the main rule. As for wash out or “overexposure,” check your ISO or aperture. Decrease your ISO, or narrow your aperture. Yay exposure triangle!
Oh boy! Most of this is over my head. Let me look into this
Thanks!!!
Dispite you getting just a little flack over your pricing, I commend you for the most realistic calculation of what you spent as well as the revenue you are attempting to generate. When I first started doing farmers markets and the like I spent a lot of time just trying to get the cost of my materials back on enough gas to get home and it was a good day. As your skill improves so does your ability to charge more. I think that $20 is a reasonable amount for your product. The problem that you have currently is lack of tools (not a big deal) as well as being inefficient (big deal). Now just to be clear I mean how you are doing things, not how fast you are doing things, although if you can improve your efficiency generally your throughput will improve. I am pretty sure that if you were well organized you could easily do the same build in less than 8 hours.
You obviously did the planning required to reduce material waste. Two of the best suggestions already mentioned is use stop blocks and use a router and template to cut your handles. On the chop saw side do yourself a favor and build yourself a proper mitre station that incorporates stop blocks and a tape. It will pay you back every time you use it.
Another thing you should look at is your. Shop layout. I try and arrange my projects so that all cuts that are required to be done on the table saw are done there, then move on to the mitre station, then do all the jointing etc. It just saves so much time wandering around the shop and moving material. The goal is to be as efficient as possible. What does making 14 boxes in say six hours do to your bottom line? Well it vastly increases your calculated hourly rate and moves this project from not really profitable to not to shabby. If you would like a few suggestions on jigs just let me know.
Something cool you might be able to do to increase revenue per crate is to print and transfer images of ol' time logos or pictures of farmers/orchard crate images. Plenty of places on youtube with instructions on how to do it.
Most definitely. In keeping with the idea of only using revenue from projects that fund more tools, I'd have to factor in the cost of the printer, ink cartridges and computer, which is a ways away at this point. I'm trying to keep costs, materials etc. very concrete to keep the integrity of the channel. Definitely something to mention though as a way to increase profit margin. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated!!!
@@makemoneywoodworking you could also just factor in the cost of it being printed for you , like for instance a full color sheet printed for 10 cents seems easier to track then the cost of all items associated with it. then youd just have to consider materials used specifically for transferring it. enjoying the videos btw.
Yeah, this does seem easier. Not sure if it's 10 cents though, but still way less expensive than the other route.
Thanks!
@@makemoneywoodworking The labels I used I got from the site that Steve mentioned in his video and I went to staples and had them print them on a light card stock to give them some durability. Don't remember the exact price but color prints are not pricey like they used to be and card stock is not that much.
Great info. Thanks for the specifics. I'm all about that!
And you should add a 1/4 hand router and some bits. Just for round over to start... you could have used in your handles. Makes a huge difference and a good up charge depending on your customer. I’d make them one of each and let them feel the difference... and without a doubt they would up grade. They would be silly not to.
I bought a trim router with chamfer bit for episode 9.👍
Great video! Thanks!
Nice editing subscribed !!
Alright! Thank you!
Awesome job bro !! Thx
Thanks for the encouragement!
You could do with investing in a trim router at some point along with some basic router bits. It would have been nice (and user friendly) to have softened up the edges of the holes/handles.
Agreed! I'd like to add at least a trim router sooner than later. In the meantime, I have to stick with the sander and 80 grit paper to round the edges.
I believe the rough look appeals to a certain crowd. Like me.
Nice work, man!
Thank you. Working on my next video now. Unfortunately, it takes me a long time from start to finish. Stay tuned....!
Thanks again for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking Looking forward to your new video!
Thanks! Me too😁
Thumbs up, keep up the good job 👏
Thank you! Feel free to share with anyone you know who might like this channel. 👍
Great video and everybody should make these crates for storage in the garage or home. I don't know who Steve Ramsey is and by giving him credit you are presumably suggesting that this crate is his design. However if that were true he would be at least 200 years old. These crates quite literally are identical to any crate used in the last 150 years to ship products ranging from fresh produce, milk, or even whiskey.
Agreed, I give credit to who I watched. He's better known as Woodworking for Mere Mortals. Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking that sounds reasonable. I never thought about it that way. It is a nice touch.
It's not all self-less based. When people search him, I pop up. Mentioning him is the least I can do
Hey you didn't include the cost of your table saw ! Lol . Tell those haters to flip off !
I really enjoy your videos brother ! Keep up the good work.
The RUclips algorithm likes all comments 😁 Thanks! (I did include it, but I didn't use it until I paid for it on the channel, haters gonna hate😃)
Good stuff Man
Thank you
I really benefit from the breakdown you do at the end. I like the crates, but unless I could come up with a low-cost way to boost the per unit price, I don't see making them anytime soon. On the flip side, I think if you paired them with other decorative projects, creating a sort of "line," you might be able to boost profit ( like shelves with spacing fit to the crates?). Something to think about which is generally a bit beyond me and mostly falls to my wife for ideas. Cheers! And thanks for the video. It's always educational.
Yeah, the only other way I can think of trimming the crate cost is using old fence wood or other free wood.
And you're right about making combinations of projects and selling as a unit. Definitely something I'm going to move towards when the numbers align. This includes your idea of adding crates or smaller boxes on the blanket ladders....but alas I'll have to wait until the stars align.
Great points for sure. I appreciate the dialogue. Gets me salivating for more woodworking projects!
Good job
Thank you!
I think it’s time for you to buy a cordless brad nailer. It would really help speed things up.
I bought a 16ga (bosch brand) for the first two cornhole sets. Pretty expensive but I can use the batteries I have with my drills. Definitely a good tool to have around.
@@makemoneywoodworking After building the first 50 I use a Bostitch stapler I have another hundred to build in the next week. I found that the stapler is better than the nailer, plus I glue the slats it was faster for Assembly.
Yeah, glue is must. I hadn't thought of using a stapler. Thanks for the tip!
I was taught to always use the same cut piece to measure with otherwise any deviation magnifies
Yes, you are correct. I believe I did that for the slats but forgot to do that with the plywood. Great point. Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking A temporary extension fence and a stop block would be even more consistent.
Agreed. I have to get a designated miter saw station set up to increase productivity.
Thanks for the comment!
@@makemoneywoodworking if you just screw down your saw and then make you an "L" shaped stop to screw down you wouldn't need a dedicated saw station. Yes it's take about 10 minutes to set up, but with production work you'll eat that ten minutes in saving measuring or lining up cuts in just a few repetition
You're right. Definitely something to consider, moving forward. Thanks for the comment!
I would suggest taking some scrap wood to make some L shaped fixtures to hold the sides upright while you glue and nail one side.
That's a great idea, especially now that I have purchased a nail gun from an episode after this one. Both of those would help speed things up.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Good stuff
Thanks!
Nice video. You also need to count time spent to sell them. How many people do you have to meet to sell all 14 of them. I would say at least five.
I agree that selling them takes time but I have to draw the line somewhere otherwise I won't be able to stop. Thanks for the comment!
Just found your video series and like the idea of batching out basic projects for a little extra hobby money.
I’m surprised you can sell these crates for $20 when craft stores sell similar crates for around $12. How long did they take to sell and did you sell them all? What kind of product staging do you do for sales photos?
These haven't sold as well as other items on my channel. I had a guy request a few of these for vinyl records which can get heavy when loaded up. I'm not sure if I'd trust a $12 box at Michaels.
I've sold things at craft fairs where people are there to buy local goods. That's the best place to sell these. My sister in-law helps me stage them as she has a knack for it. Check out my tips before running a craft booth.
Thanks for the question!
@@makemoneywoodworking thanks!
Harbor freight has a brad nailer 5/8 - 2” for like 60$ works great
Thanks for the suggestion. I ended up holding out and getting a bosch cordless nailer since I already have some of their 18v tools.
Seems like records would slide out of spaces in bottom.
The dimensions of the crates and the orientation of the slates are in such a way that the records sit perpendicular to the bottom slats. The dimensions of the crates only allow records to be placed in one way👍
You should consider having a link to each tool you have purchased throughout the whole time. That way people might see it. They could even be Amazon affiliate links. 😏 maybe list which episode your purchased it in.
In a few of the first episodes, I had a link to a list, but I haven't kept up with it. I tried looking into affiliate links but I couldn't get it figured out. I'll have to look into it again.
Thanks for the reminder!
@@makemoneywoodworking I think you have to have 500 subscribers. You are past that now so you should be able to do it now.
Thanks bro. F the haters
What would be the safest way to halve those planks?
Not sure if there's a safer way. Maybe halve them before you make them that short? Just brainstorming...
You should invest in a compressor ,nail gun and nails you can get all 3 from harbor freight for around $90 . Well worth it if you ask me.
That price point is definitely compelling. I'm trying to hold off on buying from harbor freight because of a past bad experience but $90 definitely makes it something to reconsider.
Thanks for the comment. Much appreciated!
@@makemoneywoodworking I've had good experience with both of the products here, my pancake compressor lasted me about 8 yrs before springing a leak and than it was an easy part to replace. So its still kicking 10 yrs now
Gotcha. I had a bad experience with the recip saw and fein type saw but then again, I've seen plenty of people on youtube promote various tools from harbor freight. I might just have to grow a pair and take the plunge.
I've purchased numerous tools from harbor freight and only had issues with 2. The reciprocating saw and an angle grinder. I would not hesitate to continue to buy tools from them. I have the small brad nailer and have no issues. Get the 20% off coupon and try them out when its financially feasible for your channel.
Two votes against the recip saw and two votes for the brad nailer. Might have to make the trip out there. Not sure I need it for the next project, but definitely a future one.
Thanks!
You didn't factor in income tax on your profit. Hopefully, business expenses will cancel out that factor. Great videos and very inspiring.
Yeah, I had to draw the line somewhere, otherwise I'd be factoring in electrical costs
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very inspirational! I love Steve Ramsey and it's great to see his work being taken to the next level and earn you a few bucks. Maybe you mentioned already somewhere else but did you consider trying Etsy or just FB marketplace for now?
At this point, I'm sticking with fb marketplace and local fb groups. If I ever get enough inventory of smaller items I may consider trying Etsy again. Have you had any success with Etsy? If so, what sells for you?
Thanks for the comment and encouragement!
@@makemoneywoodworking Hey, thanks for the response. No, I haven't ever sold a thing but plan to in the spring next year. I made a few planter boxes this summer for myself and want to see how well they survive over the winter before I try to sell some based on those designs. They are economical from a material and assembly perspective I think. This video of yours gave me encouragement to go for it!
Awesome. Glad to hear it. I'm constantly going back and forth on whether or not I should keep the channel going as it does take up a lot of time, so thank you again. Let me know how it goes when you finally take the plunge. Best of luck!
@@makemoneywoodworking you have to keep this channel going. I just found this channel. I got a ton of woodworking tools from my father and know the basics of how to use them but never really sure about how to profit from using them. Going back now to binge watch every episode and plan to do so e if the projects for sure. Keep em comming!
Thank you. Every comment of encouragement helps. What's your favorite tool that you received?
Ignore the haters. They feed on your discomfort.
Agreed. Thanks for the advice!
Made mine with pallet wood and got $30 ea. Great little money maker 😉
Maybe the reclaimed wood is the key. Thanks for your input!
Lots of hate out there, but I believe people will pay for a "custom" piece that perfectly suits their needs. Even if this "sells for less at Sam's club" or someone can get one that has rotten fruit stains for free - a new, custom made crate is certainly worth a few bucks!! Keep up the great content.
Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully when I have a booth next year, someone will buy other things and add a crate to fit the other items in when leaving😁🤷🏼♂️
Does the 10-12 hours include sanding?
From what I remember, yes. Although, if the end product was something more in the fine woodworking realm, I'd probably sand more. One day I hope to make something of that quality.😁
Awesome!
And even easier way to batch cut on your chop saw would be to clamp a stopper down, instead of lining up your pieces every time.
This makes sense. Once I get my shop cleared out, this will be the first thing to get organized. Thanks!!!
@@makemoneywoodworking It's sometimes tough to keep the shop organized when you get rolling. I try to stay disciplined.....but you know how that goes.
If it's not one thing it's something else. Currently waiting for a friend to help.outnwith some electrical, which puts hold on insulation, plywood walls, french cleats, cabinets...etc etc.🙄
Interesting, where do you sell your stuff? I been on a hunt trying to figure out how people sell their wood working projects
Thanks for the question. I sell on local fb groups and on fb marketplace. My next episode posts tomorrow. After the project, I give some tips and tricks when selling on fb. Stay tuned...
Another good video, are people buying those crates? Seems like they would just buy a mill crate or similar for around 10 bucks.. also I would say don't focus on the negative comments, they will always be there.
I have one customer that wanted them this particular size to fit vinyl records. If you went smaller dimensions on the plywood and slats, you could make more with the same cost and lower the price, but probably not all the way down to $10.
As far as addressing negative comments, I tried to flip it positively and mention earlier videos in the series as the channel is meant to build on each episode. Then again, give it time and I may agree with you. Thanks for the comment!
You need to radius the hand grip holes with a router, both internally & externally.
Offer crates sawn side IN or 0UT .
Also consider making them both sides planed.
Utilize a physical set stop for making cross cuts of slat block stock to the same length instead of measuring each time.
-I hadn't thought about crates side in...thank you for that!
-Unfortunately, I haven't allotted money in the ongoing purse to afford a planer, so they'll have to remain "rustic" for now.
-Since this episode, I have added a trim router to the Woodworking Monetized shop and can go back chamfer the handles. (I only have a chamfer bit at this time, but it's better than nothing)
Thanks for the comments/suggestions!!
Yes, I need to get my shop organized. Because right now, I'm constantly moving things around. Currently waiting for a friend to help with electrical work, then I can add my plywood walls and get a designated miter station set up.
Thanks for the comment!!
Where do you sell your stuff? Local fleemarket, or etsy, amazon, facebook?
Mostly on FB marketplace and local FB groups
@@makemoneywoodworking Thank you kindly.
good thoughts
Thanks!
Business class 1956 jr collage, old school thinking, to cover insurance...
Try using a little salt on the glue so your boards don’t move on you
Yeah, someone mentioned that. Seems like a low cost way to reduce lots of hassle. Thanks!!!
What about making the crates stackable?
Yes, something to think about, moving forward. Thanks for the comment!!
Anything is stackable if you are brave enough🤔
Sorry to have to tell you this, but while I was walking through Sam's Club this afternoon, (01.27.2021) I saw crates like these selling for $9.98. Made in the USA.
I know. That's the same reason I don't make regular picnic tables because they can be made so cheaply. My two saving graces (hopefully) are:
1) supporting local business (me).
2) maybe mine are exact dimensions to fit a particular item (example. Vinyl records)
At least I had fun making the video👍
@@makemoneywoodworking You forgot some items:
3.) Your crates will actually hold the vinyl records.
4.) Put together with Titebond II and nails and not some cheap adhesive that will turn brittle over time
5.) Individually Sanded
Just to name a few.
I misread this originally. Thank you for the points.
@@makemoneywoodworking You're welcome, by the way I subscribed as I've become more interested in monetizing my wood working hobby since I'm almost done with my Phd (Projects Half Done) around the house with only Kitchen Cabinets / Remodel to finish and some smaller projects (Bedroom His/Her Dresser). Everything else in the house I've already made concerning furniture less items you sit on.
Fellow WoodWorkers need encouragement not hate and we need to take it easy on the criticism and keep it constructive. For example: Those slats you we're cutting came with little support thus increased risk - consider making a throat plate for your saw either out of hardwood or mdf. If it's like mine and is supported by a ledge, add screws in 4 corners to set the height and send your blade through it providing zero clearance which will provide for additional support on those tight slat cuts. I'm spoiled because I've been at it a long time. I would cut those on my bandsaw and plane them to the needed thickness. Keep your original throat plate for angled cuts (45°).
You got anymore videos coming up? Been awhile
It's been difficult as of late with house projects and kids, but I do have the materials for the next video and since it's multiple projects, I have one commissioned piece done already. Thanks for your patience but I understand if you'd rather unsubscribe.
@@makemoneywoodworking I don't want to unsubscribe. I enjoy your videos
Not to mention I happened to sell 3 wine racks this weekend with orders for more
Awesome, thanks.
Where'd you sell them?
Awesome vid! Why don't you use the table saw for the 1 X 6 aswell?
I'm confused by your question...I used the table saw with the 1x6s.
What wood did you cut with the mitre saw? Thought it was 1x6
Oh, are you talking crosscut with the table saw? If so, I haven't made a crosscut sled yet.
Ooh I see. Sorry from South Africa not the same names for the wood🤣🤣 awesome job man!
No worries. Thanks for watching!!
Someone else mentioned a stapler. If you go to the big box stores and look at their boxes, planters, etc. that use thin stock like your slats, they're always stapled. The staples probably offer more gripping power than brads on thin stock like that. I bought one thats not powered for staples/brads. Make sure you read the directions completely. Screwed up tons of boards because I didn't load some stuff on the right side lol.
Good to know. I'm hoping that the combination of glue and nails will give the crates enough strength. However, if I ever go without glue, it sounds like a stapler is the best bet. What brand stapler did you go with?
@@makemoneywoodworking www.lowes.com/pd/Bostitch-Manual-Staple-Gun/3365340 pretty cheap. easy to use as long as you do it right. (if they keep looking Fd up once stapled/nailed, probably isnt set up right). Also, for thin stocks, they usually sell long strips that are similar dimensions to what you cut, but they're near the moulding section instead of by all the other regular lumber.
The price is right, for sure
FYI, cutting down the thickness of a board is called “resawing,” not “ripping.”
What is "ripping" then?
Interesting channel. I like the idea of building a shop from the revenue of your previous projects.
I have a question though - have you actually managed to sell all the stuff you built so far (boxes, racks, benches,..), or are the revenue numbers just theoretical? No judgement - just would be nice to know the reality. If you actually managed to sell them, it would be nice if you could tell us something about it. I think it would make an interesting video for those who might think about starting from scratch themselves - not to see just the "making" side (with "random" numbers), but also the monetization part of this venture (maybe something didn't go as you expected, maybe you had to adjust the prices, where did you find buyers, selling online vs local, maybe some tips you learned along the way, did you manage to sell everything? etc..).
Also, I can only recommend you to buy a nail gun and compressor when you can afford it. I bought a cheap small(6l) Gude compressor with a nail gun and it works great. (about 130€ for both). You won't do much else with such a small compressor, but it works well for nailer and blowing air. And it charges full in about 30 sec. - so it's ready really quickly when you need it, without having to wait few minutes on a larger tank compressor.
Also trim router is a nice idea as well - I'd go with a cheap one (about 50€, maybe less from china) to get those details like round edges and possibly some groves etc...
Good luck with your future projects.
After each episode, I'm definitely going to add more information for viewers. And after my 10th video, I plan on give my a recap. Yes, theoretical vs. actual will be included.
Thank you for your input. It's good to hear a perspective outside of myself and my wife. Much appreciated! I hope to get another video out in the next few weeks.
I really do need a table saw don't i.
You can make the other version using 1x4s, but without ripping them. Still nice crates.
I converted a $600 pile of lumber and hardware into a $100 tea cupboard...
How did you manage that? Care to share pics?
you need to set a stop block on your mitre saw and then you dont need to measure. You can actually build this project entirely with a mitre saw
How can I rip the slats in half (width) with a miter saw?
Where you sell it
I sell on Facebook marketplace and local groups and a small store in town on consignment
Thanks for sharing have a blessed day in the name of Jesus
Are these stainless steel nails or something? $15 for 1 lb?
From what I remember, there are not that expensive. So probably not. Sorry I can't be of more help to you.
That's what your video said unless I don't understand how you list the pricing and your bank information?
I just checked again because that did seem high. If I recall, I may have bought these for less, but I think I misplaced the receipt and just found a comparable package from one of the big boxes stores. Definitely an area you could cut costs. Sorry for the confusion!
Get a 99$ ryobi brad nailer and blow through those crates in no time
Yep. I held out until Episode 9 and purchased a reconditioned 16 ga. cordless Bosch nailer. Next time I batch these out, I'll put it to good use.
Brad nailer would be faster but probably not as sturdy as traditional nails. I've seen a notable difference in longevity in my raised garden boxes that did not get Brad nailed together.
Good point to address. Thanks for the comment!
The only problem with this is that I couldn't get someone to buy one of these much less 14. I can make stuff like this all day long. I just can't sell it.
It's definitely a niche item. Maybe you could pair it with something else. My sister in-law had the idea of adding a trendy pillow or blanket and sell it as a set. Just a thought.
You should make 5 times ur costs, also factor in the cost of electricity...
I've heard 3 times cost. Where do you get 5 from?
Gotcha. It's definitely not a business so I see electricity as included in my normal home costs.
Did you sell these crates at $20 each?
Yes, but I haven't sold all of them. I think $18 is a better price point but only if you can get your costs down. Or if you're okay with less profit, I suppose.
Thanks for the question.
Why don.t you use screws
The slats are too thin.
You should have invested in a nail gun at the start the time saved alone would have paid for them. And you can easily use again in the future. Investing back into yourself to save time is the real deal. Could have easily went from under 20 an hour to over 40 an hour, easily. You know how long it took you to hammer, so we can leave it at that.
I agree, however, I wanted to show aspiring woodworkers that they could start with just $200.
There's plenty of channels out there that show projects completed with any and all tools at their disposal. When I started out and watched videos with festool and sawstops and router bits galore, it was frustrating to me. So, enter Woodworking Monetized, a channel where you're only allowed to use what you've made from the previous projects.
Now that I have a nail gun, any previous project made will be batched out a lot quicker....and I've earned it.
Thanks for the comment!!
@@makemoneywoodworking i'd assume those other ww channels were already in the ww business and decided to youtube as a side hustle.
now to see on ep 1 what you started with!
I hope you enjoy. EP 11 out in a couple days!!