@@samljer Yeah, I was always a fan of hugging the side. It is hard to get the team to consistently do that though. A lot of people just want to fight instead of win. More power to them.
fighting middle is fine most of the time- just sometimes it isn't. similar to AB fighting on roads is great when you're winning, but bad when you're losing.
WSG will always be my favorite battleground. It's very easy to find some action and as a Shaman being a flag runner was always a possibility. Picking up Berserking and doing an Elemental Mastery/Chain lightning was quite fun too
Always loved your videos As much as i am hyped for classic, life just does not allow me to play wow as i did 15 years ago Your videos are the only connection i have left with wow Please continue with these great videos :)
Pallys can also buff themselves with Blessing of American Freedom. This buff builds a wall around the palladins body to prevent immigrant orcs doing harm to them
Another point for the sham if the wolf form since its also 40% speed like the cheetah form of the druids, also since shams can use mail and shield they can also hold some damage.
Being able to do WSG at low levels is a good way to break from leveling and get a little rep towards those good exalted rewards. Also, not related to WSG, but that AV quest you can take at like lv50-52 gets you a pretty good blue weapon as long as you can win it! BTW: shamans are really good with earthbind totem more than tremor in WSG. Tremor's range kinda sucks in BGs, and earthbind's AOE slow messes up everybody who doesn't have a FAP or BOF going as they support the flag runner or chase the guy who took it. And you can purge those buffs too! Plus ghost wolf for a weaker version of travel form makes them a good runner support or mid support if they're ele/resto, or a face destroyer if they're enh with a good 2h.
I was a troll rogue engineer, and loved being able to grab the alliance flag, rocket boot off the cliff and parachute my way to the entrance to my base's tunnel. A quick sprint up the slope and I was ready to go do it again. But eventually a patch was introduced that made you drop the flag upon activating your rockets. Spoilsports, haha.
It use to get you could drop the flag and pick it right up again. A preparation rogue was insane during that time period in WSG. Vanish, once slowed. Usually in mid at that point, regrab the flag, hit prep and sprint again.
Even If he starts a fresh Character in a new server, the classic community will still hate him no matter what, classic community are like Trump haters "Bald Man Bad". Such pathetic NPCs
I missed when they took the buffing out before you entered a BG I use to go golds hire at low level yell buff please and get the high rank buffs and go in and be a boss fight all on your own it was so fun xD
OMG, so many memories... We had a 2 druids flag carriers premade... I was also a flag defending rogue. I was able to make it to lvl 13... I had no life... :-)
1:23 this is one of things you see, think "what in hell did I just watch" then you try and forget for 20+ years and just when it's *almost* gone, there it is again, and you realise that it's pretty much etched into your brain forever (seriously last time I saw this was well before youtube and I can't even remember what led me to seeing it, but I vaguely recall it being ultima online they're trying to recreate)
Well irl he was saying lightning bolt every 0.5 seconds so I would of just assumed it was rank one. Then I would of shouted RESIST RESIST RESIST and smacked him with my sword
World of Warcraft died after WotLK!! There was no more evolution! Only compromise anddegradation! Activision ruined everything!!! -signed, A Very Healthy Fan
@@WhySooSeriouslol They used to be so good with the high level enchantments that they had to be nerfed.They made it where the items had levels so that high level enchantments could not be cast on low level items.
Wait. Are you saying there are vendors in TBC? I mean at the instances themselves? I’ve never used the instance and even though I maxed a hunter, I never even saw the instance itself. I didn’t do any pvp with my Hunter and really regret it so I made a Druid twink. Been doin BGs with him at level 19. I thought the only vendors were the ones in orgrimmar. This video is a year old so just wondering if this is still a thing. I mean these vendors
I wonder what your view is on the Anti Healer Add On's like H.H.T.D and others like that I played a Resto Druid in vanilla right up to LVL 70 before going just raid healing, and Yes From WSG AB or AV you new you were top of the target tree but They had to spot you healing and mark you up,.. and I use to get a chance to run around heal before they did that,. With Classic and the what I see as the newer add on's, I am more dead than I am alive because I have the HHDT Marker on my head from the very start of the match have add-on's made BG"s a no go for Pug Healers like myself,... Have the BG's become a battle of who has the best Skills over who has the Better Add On's? Like to know your views on this as right now I am still a leveling Restro Druid in Classic and am finding it much worse in the WSG as a healer and am close to stopping healing in BG's all together I never found it like this in Vanilla and that was on RavenCrest Eu a PVP server. Were because of there being no cross-realm BG's you often were face to face with the same guys you meet in the non BG world.
Vanilla WSG was fun, the meta is going to shift completely in Classic. If I were to guess I'd say 2-3 rogues + 1 druid with sapper charges and thorium grenades are going to camp the graveyard. with a mage for clean up on the bottom of the cliff. Right when spawn goes off, the rogues and druid are going to dump the sappers and nades, and clean up anyone who stays up top. anyone who jumps down a mage will just be waiting for you. Meta is going to shift to needing FAPs or Major HP Pots to sustain through the burst from the respawn. Whichever team gets the kill advantage off the first or second skirmish is going to get a fast double cap.
I literally just use American football defensive coverage references and the group all of a sudden gets competitive and starts listening, works every time. It’s fun when you assign players certain roles and they actually follow through.
I do agree alliance was bit overpowering in most BG, but the alliance community eas equally toxic. I had a nightelf hunter, tried 3 guilds Nd so many pvp teams but the toxic behaviour was out of proportion, then i made a Blood elf Mage- man being in horde was a relief. Loosing is bit sad, but we still had fun helping and trying - like it was a breather from the toxic nature of most alliance players. I liked horde so much that i made Blood elf Priest during bc and DK during lich king. Its better to loose and be jolly happy enjoying gameplay than stay with Toxic players and win. HORDE for life!!
Been on battle grounds for the past few hours and alliance hasn't won on my server once. At one point a dude went "everybody split up!". I keep yelling to stick together and nobody listens, you'd think they'd notice the horde keeps coming in groups. I'm so frustrated.
When being a Shaman was awesome, earthbind totem was hated by the Alliance since they didn't have it and at a game that played different having a totem that slowdown everyone around and only available for the Horde they used to hate us ;) Oh and on top we drop Wimdfury Totem (not available for the alliance haha) it was overkill
I hope that the BGs help cool off the world PvP. I have gone back to retail. After being disgusted by forced to reroll on a PvE realm to do any kind of gold-making outside of AH flips.
Is the matchamking balanced, or does it just throw random people together? Don't feel like getting stomped by players that have been doing this for years in private servers. And do you get matched against premades if you solo que?
lmao when you said "is said to be released in early 2020" for a moment i thought that was some weird joke before realizing that it is really fucking 2020 in less than a month. i hope they fix the speed of time in the next patch
I used to have a couple of filthy 19 twinks back in the day. I was eventually recruited by my realm’s most elite 19 twink guild, Killa Beez. Anyone here from that guild? I can’t remember the server name to be honest. Also, are people making twinks in classic right now? I’m so tempted to jump back into WoW!
Originally you needed revered with the warsong factions in order to be able to buy the rare items, such as bows and other weapons. If this is still the case in classic, then i doubt most people will farm it for leveling purpose.
@@spencers4121 ofc they will. Everything is min-max hardcore right now. And everyone knows what to do on a 15 year old game in order to accomplish things faster and with more efficiency.
Guys a tip. Just play WSG as playing moba. Remember that you are alaways playing well and if you lose is 100% your team fault! Moreover the other team is full of smurfs. If you remember this 2 points you will be the best player out there! Thanks for the video Mad!
What I've learned in all my years of WoW (as a healer on alliance): The majority alliance think they're solo one-shot heroes, hence why horde stomps us most of the time.
Thats the majority of players in both factions. Ive only ever been healed in one game in av since it released. (Im a warlock). The druids are feral, priests are shadow and shamans dont wanna heal. (The alliance always have more healers than the horde) Ive leveled a 17 priest and been doing quite well in the 10-19 bracket. Im not twinked but i can make a difference in the game.
Tell you a little story about how good my premade warsong team was. We went in with the plan that our warrior would carry the flag. However, he would only /walk for the entire match. We won.
@bean machine One match we all wore what we called out, about town clothes. No armor, just role playing gear. Pretty funny stuff when you are grinding honor for days you gotta get a laugh in once in a while
@bean machine Even better when we faced other pre mades and still won. Still fun when we played vs a pug of cry babies that were shit at pvp. "But we have a pally! we should be winning" :(
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There's something warm in my chest when I listen to your intro. One of the best wow content creators
It’s your heart.
1- Fight in the middle
2- ????
3- Profit
Javier Hernández lol accurate
Seems legit
The better meme.
top tier gaming
I remember the spam, "Don't fight in the middle!" Yeah, I'll tell that to the team of other faction attacking me.
Matticus Barticus HAHAHA YES!
If you wernt there in the first place wouldnt be a problem.
just dont run up the middle, teams that dont win more often.
go around or kite them to bad places. Dont get mad at reality and use that as a reason to give up and suck
@@samljer Yeah, I was always a fan of hugging the side. It is hard to get the team to consistently do that though. A lot of people just want to fight instead of win. More power to them.
fighting middle is fine most of the time- just sometimes it isn't.
similar to AB fighting on roads is great when you're winning, but bad when you're losing.
MadSeason talks like he’s recording while trying not to wake up his parents in the other room.
Even if he wakes them up. His soothing voice will put them back to sleep.
hey mum , madeseason here
Mom: What're you- *falls back asleep*
true lol
Lightning Bolt Lightning Bolt
Noob didn’t put enough talents into maelstrom weapon so he has to hard cast lightning bolt
@@FecalMatador Lightning Bolt
/clap
Elemental Shaman gameplay in a nutshell
Honestly MadSeason is the chillest youtuber out there. He's not loud or obnoxious, just a chill dude making videos about a game he loves.
Nobody is ever mentioning these Donkey Kong (Country2) songs in the last 10 vids. Thanks Madseason! I appreciate!
Hey everyone. Glad to be part of this community!
Thanks for watching
@@madseasonshow Thanks for doing and loving what you're doing! See you on Twitch. 😆
1:25
Elemental Shamans be like
I hate those spammers!
And the occasional Chain Lightning to shake things up
lightening turrets ftw ;D
WSG will always be my favorite battleground. It's very easy to find some action and as a Shaman being a flag runner was always a possibility. Picking up Berserking and doing an Elemental Mastery/Chain lightning was quite fun too
Not so fun to be on the other side of the field.. alliance sucks at pvp 😭
Assman when he sees the warrior: "THATS ME DUDE, THATS ME!"
Then when the time comes, he cries that he cannot do anything as a warrior.
Jokes on you asmonbald went back to retail
Stolen comment from the top comment of Captain Grimm's latest video, shame shame shame
Always loved your videos
As much as i am hyped for classic, life just does not allow me to play wow as i did 15 years ago
Your videos are the only connection i have left with wow
Please continue with these great videos :)
I don't feel like I need a WG guide, I don't even play WoW right now, but your voice helps me to fall asleep, I enjoy watching your vids before bed.
Really love your advice at the end about keeping your cool. You’re an awesome dude mad season
Even though I knew all of this it's always fun listening to you explain the concepts~
The battletoads double music you're playing is fucking sick with it!!!
Thanks, this was super helpful!
5:55 It looks like that druid actually got deleted for real, including the flag aswell.
1:19 showing RTCW: Enemy Territory
You def have my full respect for this |m/
1:50 you can hear the smile in his voice lol
Yea the "just kidding."
Pallys can also buff themselves with Blessing of American Freedom. This buff builds a wall around the palladins body to prevent immigrant orcs doing harm to them
Nailed it 😂
Another point for the sham if the wolf form since its also 40% speed like the cheetah form of the druids, also since shams can use mail and shield they can also hold some damage.
Being able to do WSG at low levels is a good way to break from leveling and get a little rep towards those good exalted rewards.
Also, not related to WSG, but that AV quest you can take at like lv50-52 gets you a pretty good blue weapon as long as you can win it!
BTW: shamans are really good with earthbind totem more than tremor in WSG. Tremor's range kinda sucks in BGs, and earthbind's AOE slow messes up everybody who doesn't have a FAP or BOF going as they support the flag runner or chase the guy who took it. And you can purge those buffs too! Plus ghost wolf for a weaker version of travel form makes them a good runner support or mid support if they're ele/resto, or a face destroyer if they're enh with a good 2h.
WSG at low level with a decent 2h and WF... 🤤🤤🤤
I remember the background music was from level one of battle toads & Double dragon for Sega. lol niiice.
Thanks for the video as always!
Your voice is so soothing it's amazing lol
So excited for bgs!!! xD
...also, great video. as usual.
The thumbnail says it all, didn't need a 16 minute video for it ;D
I was a troll rogue engineer, and loved being able to grab the alliance flag, rocket boot off the cliff and parachute my way to the entrance to my base's tunnel. A quick sprint up the slope and I was ready to go do it again. But eventually a patch was introduced that made you drop the flag upon activating your rockets. Spoilsports, haha.
It use to get you could drop the flag and pick it right up again. A preparation rogue was insane during that time period in WSG. Vanish, once slowed. Usually in mid at that point, regrab the flag, hit prep and sprint again.
This was great! Can't wait for the one on AV and AB :)
Nice video, Mad! :) Well done like always...
Great music! I'm pumped!!
Good video! Keep up the good work!
Here before Asmonbald Golem reacts
Fuck that guy
He's not streaming until Monday, so the haters have plenty of time to rage...
Even If he starts a fresh Character in a new server, the classic community will still hate him no matter what, classic community are like Trump haters "Bald Man Bad". Such pathetic NPCs
@@TheBulldogsk8 Yeah man I wish I had a cult of 20k+ people that would hang off every single word that rolled off of my tongue
He looks like trogg
I missed when they took the buffing out before you entered a BG I use to go golds hire at low level yell buff please and get the high rank buffs and go in and be a boss fight all on your own it was so fun xD
lol big brain
@@tobeymaguire9371 it was even better in later expansions, all buffs lasted an hour and they was a higher rank.
OMG, so many memories... We had a 2 druids flag carriers premade... I was also a flag defending rogue. I was able to make it to lvl 13... I had no life... :-)
Where did you find the time? I think this mad man just said 18 hour days for 4 months
Worst rule ever: if it ends in a tie, the team that scores LAST wins the match
Yeah tie on flags should go to team with most damage done or kills or something..
He protecc,
he attac,
but most importantly,
he bring flag bacc
If I had 1 HK everytime I've read "DON'T FIGHT MID" I'd be world first R14
ENEMY TERRITORY!!! You just brought me back.
March 2019
"Congrats on Rank 14! What kind of premade did you run in Warsong Gulch?"
...
"What's Warsong Gulch?"
1:23 this is one of things you see, think "what in hell did I just watch" then you try and forget for 20+ years and just when it's *almost* gone, there it is again, and you realise that it's pretty much etched into your brain forever (seriously last time I saw this was well before youtube and I can't even remember what led me to seeing it, but I vaguely recall it being ultima online they're trying to recreate)
such a goated vid
Well irl he was saying lightning bolt every 0.5 seconds so I would of just assumed it was rank one. Then I would of shouted RESIST RESIST RESIST and smacked him with my sword
😆
Good video. Ty. Very cozy. 10/10
"Quit fighting mid"....if I had a nickel for everytime I heard that
Instructions unclear,now I'm grave camped...
Still waiting for evolution of world of warcraft wrath of the lich king episode after 2 years :(
Soon(tm)?
World of Warcraft died after WotLK!! There was no more evolution! Only compromise anddegradation! Activision ruined everything!!!
-signed,
A Very Healthy Fan
Look up warmane. They run a few wotlk private servers ranging from 1x to 7x exp gain.
So are the old enchantments back for the twinks in wow classic.Used to love playing beefed up lvl 19 twinks in these battlegrounds.
Twinks were at the pinnacle during wrath, right before the xp bar lock..
@@WhySooSeriouslol They used to be so good with the high level enchantments that they had to be nerfed.They made it where the items had levels so that high level enchantments could not be cast on low level items.
I remember people just getting mad when I captured all the flags as fast as I could, they wanted to fight.
Yeah and then they would complain when they lose
Love madseason !!!!
You can’t fool us anymore we can see there’s 15 more minutes of the video left
Wait. Are you saying there are vendors in TBC? I mean at the instances themselves? I’ve never used the instance and even though I maxed a hunter, I never even saw the instance itself. I didn’t do any pvp with my Hunter and really regret it so I made a Druid twink. Been doin BGs with him at level 19. I thought the only vendors were the ones in orgrimmar. This video is a year old so just wondering if this is still a thing. I mean these vendors
I wonder what your view is on the Anti Healer Add On's like H.H.T.D and others like that I played a Resto Druid in vanilla right up to LVL 70 before going just raid healing, and Yes From WSG AB or AV you new you were top of the target tree but They had to spot you healing and mark you up,.. and I use to get a chance to run around heal before they did that,. With Classic and the what I see as the newer add on's, I am more dead than I am alive because I have the HHDT Marker on my head from the very start of the match have add-on's made BG"s a no go for Pug Healers like myself,... Have the BG's become a battle of who has the best Skills over who has the Better Add On's? Like to know your views on this as right now I am still a leveling Restro Druid in Classic and am finding it much worse in the WSG as a healer and am close to stopping healing in BG's all together I never found it like this in Vanilla and that was on RavenCrest Eu a PVP server. Were because of there being no cross-realm BG's you often were face to face with the same guys you meet in the non BG world.
So are you going to be able to just join from anywhere or will you have to go to the battle master
Are you going to make an av video?
i LOVE return to castle Wolfinstein!
I'm glad my favorite Wow yu=outuber have this video made lol
What’s the bag add-on you use?
Bgs gonna be so much fun, especially as a druid!
1:29 That Female Night Elf clap was so on point it's not even funny. Nailed it.
9:32 love the mage description at the top lol
Vanilla WSG was fun, the meta is going to shift completely in Classic. If I were to guess I'd say 2-3 rogues + 1 druid with sapper charges and thorium grenades are going to camp the graveyard. with a mage for clean up on the bottom of the cliff. Right when spawn goes off, the rogues and druid are going to dump the sappers and nades, and clean up anyone who stays up top. anyone who jumps down a mage will just be waiting for you. Meta is going to shift to needing FAPs or Major HP Pots to sustain through the burst from the respawn. Whichever team gets the kill advantage off the first or second skirmish is going to get a fast double cap.
I literally just use American football defensive coverage references and the group all of a sudden gets competitive and starts listening, works every time. It’s fun when you assign players certain roles and they actually follow through.
Most WSG matches I’ve played, us Horde have just been farmed at the graveyard.
I do agree alliance was bit overpowering in most BG, but the alliance community eas equally toxic.
I had a nightelf hunter, tried 3 guilds Nd so many pvp teams but the toxic behaviour was out of proportion, then i made a Blood elf Mage- man being in horde was a relief. Loosing is bit sad, but we still had fun helping and trying - like it was a breather from the toxic nature of most alliance players.
I liked horde so much that i made Blood elf Priest during bc and DK during lich king.
Its better to loose and be jolly happy enjoying gameplay than stay with Toxic players and win.
HORDE for life!!
trying to join WSG but it says wait time unavaliable. Wtf going on?
Been on battle grounds for the past few hours and alliance hasn't won on my server once. At one point a dude went "everybody split up!". I keep yelling to stick together and nobody listens, you'd think they'd notice the horde keeps coming in groups. I'm so frustrated.
I won my first game, lasted what 10-15 minutes? Suffice to say the Alliance shit stomped.
When are you streaming?
Reems Smeer-maar-dan-omgekeerd I think he’s streaming joe
It's kind of random these days - trying my best to keep with with both RUclips and Twitch(and going outside sometimes) =]
I just dinged 50 so no BGs for me. It sucks being at the bottom of the range.
How are you finding Classic Mad , i'm loving it on my warlock , of course I'm in the honorable Horde , lol not the dirty Alliance ;P
Nice video again
The second and third part of your sentence make no sense, but sure bud, hope you are having a great time 👌👍
what are the spawn timers of the buffs?
Is there av Weekends in classic?
9:36 "dress wearing pansies" lmao. mage here but so true
what addon did he have on rogue showing duration of stuns etc
Its da mad man
When being a Shaman was awesome, earthbind totem was hated by the Alliance since they didn't have it and at a game that played different having a totem that slowdown everyone around and only available for the Horde they used to hate us ;)
Oh and on top we drop Wimdfury Totem (not available for the alliance haha) it was overkill
I hope that the BGs help cool off the world PvP. I have gone back to retail. After being disgusted by forced to reroll on a PvE realm to do any kind of gold-making outside of AH flips.
Hey madseason if i want to reach rank 11 any idea on how much honor i should farm daily? assuming im playing high pop
there is no way of knowing how much honor you should be farming... but you'll probably want to be in the top 1000 each week.
Remember riding on the chopper!
Is the matchamking balanced, or does it just throw random people together? Don't feel like getting stomped by players that have been doing this for years in private servers. And do you get matched against premades if you solo que?
The matchmaking is 100% random. Yes it is possible to end up in a team of 10 randoms with zero healers against a 10-man pre-made.
@@19Szabolcs91 that sounds fun :/
Was random back in the day. Some people have been asking for matchmaking - that's an argument for the changes/no changes crowds
Nobody:
Madseason: TWANG TWANG TWANG TWANG TWAANG TWAAANG
I´m not into PvP, but this was fun to watch.
lmao when you said "is said to be released in early 2020" for a moment i thought that was some weird joke before realizing that it is really fucking 2020 in less than a month. i hope they fix the speed of time in the next patch
Dammit I was so stuck on your voice I believed that trollingxD
I used to have a couple of filthy 19 twinks back in the day. I was eventually recruited by my realm’s most elite 19 twink guild, Killa Beez.
Anyone here from that guild? I can’t remember the server name to be honest.
Also, are people making twinks in classic right now? I’m so tempted to jump back into WoW!
Dude do it! Once in a life time to jump on this wave before it dies again
RX7FDfreak You’re totally right man. 🙌🏽
Originally you needed revered with the warsong factions in order to be able to buy the rare items, such as bows and other weapons.
If this is still the case in classic, then i doubt most people will farm it for leveling purpose.
I need the av video. I’m so lost 😂
I always found BG's more fun when not on the grind but just for fun #lowranklyfe
I have a strange feeling the Bg's in Classic will be nothing but a premade gank-a-thon.
@@spencers4121 ofc they will.
Everything is min-max hardcore right now.
And everyone knows what to do on a 15 year old game in order to accomplish things faster and with more efficiency.
thank you
Mage: Dress wearing pansies LOL
"Big Blue Dress" Cranius classic
@@selalewow haha loved that video
i actually lol'd at the "ok video over like if you liked part" ..........
With the wpvp i ve done i've found hunter's viper sting very useful
Viper sting super underrated, can beat casters simply spamming that and running out of their cast range until theyre oom lol.
Best class to play WSG was a Druid. Grab the flag, go bear form, and run 40% speed increase. Almost unstoppable, back in Burning Crusade.
Guys a tip. Just play WSG as playing moba. Remember that you are alaways playing well and if you lose is 100% your team fault! Moreover the other team is full of smurfs.
If you remember this 2 points you will be the best player out there!
Thanks for the video Mad!
8:57 that’s windwall not windfury
Oops
Pretty sure Free Action Potion is a physical buff, and cannot be dispelled by enemy priests/shamans.
What I've learned in all my years of WoW (as a healer on alliance): The majority alliance think they're solo one-shot heroes, hence why horde stomps us most of the time.
Thats the majority of players in both factions. Ive only ever been healed in one game in av since it released. (Im a warlock). The druids are feral, priests are shadow and shamans dont wanna heal. (The alliance always have more healers than the horde)
Ive leveled a 17 priest and been doing quite well in the 10-19 bracket. Im not twinked but i can make a difference in the game.
You forgot to mention that the GY is not in the same spot as in retail.
Windwall = Windfury ??
I liked it @1:51
Tell you a little story about how good my premade warsong team was.
We went in with the plan that our warrior would carry the flag. However, he would only /walk for the entire match.
We won.
@bean machine Sweet
@bean machine One match we all wore what we called out, about town clothes. No armor, just role playing gear. Pretty funny stuff when you are grinding honor for days you gotta get a laugh in once in a while
@bean machine Even better when we faced other pre mades and still won.
Still fun when we played vs a pug of cry babies that were shit at pvp.
"But we have a pally! we should be winning" :(