@@darkskull8453 4k. the screen of the unit got a bit flimsey over last months tough even tough it is rarely in use and altough it is not an early unit. 4k if should send it in before the buy, 3,7k with the flimsey screen.
your videos are so good, man. style, substance, fantastic demonstration, everything. i love the simplicity of your workflow, feel free to dive deeper in that sometimes. top notch, please keep it up!
Love the honesty. You call balls and strikes, harp when necessary but also recognize when something might work for someone else. You videos never feel like a commercial for something which already puts you way ahead of must other filmmaking youtiubes who just focus on gear they love or those who are paying them. kudos for admitting, "that's just me though, I know there's some out there that would look at this thing like the holy grail of lenses, nd if that's you, go for it. If you buy this lens and shoot something really cool with it, then you're already doing more filmmaking than someone like me who's just sitting here complaining about it.". Respect. Keep it up.
The composite plastic holds up pretty well over time, keeps the camera lightweight enough to easily work with common gimbal systems, and the screen isn't an issue once you're aware of it. As an owner operator of a c70 for several years now, I wouldn't put the build quality as a mark against it unless you're planning on renting it out. Also, the digital stabilization is fine in the right situations - too often people turn it on forget about it leading to bad pulsing issues in the your footage, but if you're using it correctly, it can be the difference between a usable shot, and one that you just have to pray post will be able to fix. Not knocking your review, but I was one that went for years just leaving it off for safety, and recently came back to it for more handheld work realizing what I've been leaving on the table - could have saved me a lot of trouble. And it's worth noting that when paired with Canon's IS lenses like their RF line, the end result is actually pretty close to the physical IBIS systems in a lot of other cameras - but RF costs are what they are so... Canon actually kept this in the newer c400 as well, because as a digital stabilization system you can turn it off. Any camera using a physical IBIS will always have that floating design to work through, which can cause issues with percision in certain situations. Nice review, auto focus in practice is its biggest weakpoint, especially when there's multiple subjects in frame. Love the camera, and love the IQ you can get it out if with vintage or basically any cine glass, the mk2 will most likely stay s35 since the c400 is RF FF, Canon has a habit of announcing the more expensive model first then quickly following up with more affordable ones, with the c400 due in September, I wouldn't be surprised to see a c70 mk2 announced this year, but if not it's probably not long off.
I totally agree about the build quality not all composite materials are equal, and canon does indeed has really HQ materials. My cameras and lenses really went through some rough conditions and everything managed to survive without a noticeable damage. I do agree with the Jake and his video that the wheel and the display hinge could be done better, also the mounting point for handle tends to come loose. But when I talk with my rental their favourite cameras are canons cause they just work....
fantastic review, your wealth of knowledge with regards to color and color management really shows. something about your review format is so intuitive and really pleasing to watch. keep killin it man
Great video dude! The C70 is definitely a GREAT camera (as I've told you repeatedly hahaha). The build quality, and in particular the screen, is my single biggest complaint about the camera. Looking forward to what they might do with a Mark II version!
i wonder😂😂😂😂😂, you have to look for a reason to complain, i would rather have good camera with no evf rather than bad camera. Go buy canon r5 ,it has a evf😂😂😂😂,,, use comon sense
Honestly, I have seen so many videos where I thought, wow, the image is wonderful, just to find out it was shot with the C70. As I am more into photography I went with the R5, but the C70 is just a dream video camera.
I don't get what people mean when they say they don't like the build quality. Because I think this is build like a tank, except for the flippy screen. Everything feels very solidly put together. All the buttons feel good, nothing is rattling. The battery gives a good click when you insert if, giving confidence. Power switch as well. Plastics are also solid, feel rather thick and don't give way when pushed. The hand grip is solid. I don't know what you mean. Other than the screen which is super flimsy. But maybe it need's only one part to make the whole feel bad?
Great review! Quick tip: your first CST that goes from log -> log: it's better to disable tone mapping. With tone mapping on the transformation isn't accurate.
I could go on and on about my C70. I'll never let this thing go unless they come out with a C70MK2 that breaks ground again in ways I can't think of like the first one did.
I wonder if your perception of the 24-105 is because you’re not using it on a full frame sensor! I haven’t used it but it seems like the ultimate utilitarian tool for weddings.
I don’t get the complaint of crippling. While the C70 isn’t something related to crippling, it seems that people want there to be no restrictions on less expensive cameras. They have to bring the price down somehow.
This camera was in my radar until I hold it in the shop. Build quality feels very cheap and I might have to baby it. Canon's plastic isn't on par with the like of Sony and Nikon.
For an owner operator who would take care of their gear, I can see this being a a truthful statement but when it comes to a rental product, the C70 becomes a janky toy that feels like it's about to fall apart. I've had to rent C70's quite a bit and every time it's like about to just spontaneously combust. They would have record errors and ultimately I had to urge a client to stop using it because we lost an entire card in an instant. So if you take care of your things and use it with the utmost respect and dignity, sure. But it's not a tangible rental solution and I would urge anyone considering to rent it to RUN FAR AWAY.
are you sure that was not an issue with the cards? My rental house love c70, the only thing they dont like is the display and its hinge. But after first service canon did improve it a lot. They never reported any other problems with it.
I’ve rented from multiple different vendors with consistent issues across the board, including the record errors. So unless all cards are bad, it seems like a software / hardware bug. But I agree the hinge is one of the worst points of potential physical failure. It always feels like it’s about to bend a bit too far and snap off, and they have varying degrees of tolerance so the more used it is the less the hinge works as intended. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a canon fan, my first DSLR pre video was a the rebel, I was in the trenches with the 7D and 5D, own a C100 Mk2 and a C200 and EOS R. I have loved the C300 and even the C700 for its large quirks. But the C70 feels like a toy comparatively and I have never gotten any rental of that camera to live up to the work horse value of the others. Especially after being a Beta tester for RED with the Komodo back in 2020, I’d take a preproduction model Komodo over the C70 (and i did move the job I rented C70s for to 3 Komodo’s).
@@jgermain453interesting I own c70 for year and a half, have many friends that use it, red bull media house uses it a lot because of its reliability and this is first time I’ve heard about any issues except the hinge and the top handle mount. Wonder is it up to the series of the model since I’m based in Europe but it seams those 20 cameras I’m aware of ended up being the lucky bunch 😅
Agreed it’s not too bad apart for the screen hinge. Used mine for 3 years. I don’t really baby my gear. The mini XLR ports you need to be careful with, when cables are plugged in. Broke one once by accident.
Probably for a lot of applications but for run and gun rough dock style it can't beat older c style bodies. That c400 looks great too! (Hopefully it says strong and robust as the past models) I had to return my c70s because the screens kept getting destroyed.
A lot of guys could vastly improve their image quality, by investing $2.50 towards a pack of Walmart safety razors, instead of another $2,500 into a yet another 4K camera system.
I own a C70, so I'm just watching this video to reassure myself that I don't need to buy the C400. I don't. I don't.
C70 > C400 in picture quality. C400 > C70 in documentary
i own two C70, they are epic
👍🏾👍🏾Awesome, then you won't mind if I come over and take one of those off of your hands, Bro?? 😂
@@FilmSpook haha actually i do want to sell one
@lukasmizerovsky how much are you selling it for?
@@darkskull8453 4k. the screen of the unit got a bit flimsey over last months tough even tough it is rarely in use and altough it is not an early unit. 4k if should send it in before the buy, 3,7k with the flimsey screen.
Child’s play, I have 17 and some pocket lint
your videos are so good, man. style, substance, fantastic demonstration, everything. i love the simplicity of your workflow, feel free to dive deeper in that sometimes. top notch, please keep it up!
Thanks for saying that, I really appreciate it. Made my day
Love the honesty. You call balls and strikes, harp when necessary but also recognize when something might work for someone else. You videos never feel like a commercial for something which already puts you way ahead of must other filmmaking youtiubes who just focus on gear they love or those who are paying them. kudos for admitting, "that's just me though, I know there's some out there that would look at this thing like the holy grail of lenses, nd if that's you, go for it. If you buy this lens and shoot something really cool with it, then you're already doing more filmmaking than someone like me who's just sitting here complaining about it.". Respect. Keep it up.
The composite plastic holds up pretty well over time, keeps the camera lightweight enough to easily work with common gimbal systems, and the screen isn't an issue once you're aware of it. As an owner operator of a c70 for several years now, I wouldn't put the build quality as a mark against it unless you're planning on renting it out.
Also, the digital stabilization is fine in the right situations - too often people turn it on forget about it leading to bad pulsing issues in the your footage, but if you're using it correctly, it can be the difference between a usable shot, and one that you just have to pray post will be able to fix. Not knocking your review, but I was one that went for years just leaving it off for safety, and recently came back to it for more handheld work realizing what I've been leaving on the table - could have saved me a lot of trouble. And it's worth noting that when paired with Canon's IS lenses like their RF line, the end result is actually pretty close to the physical IBIS systems in a lot of other cameras - but RF costs are what they are so... Canon actually kept this in the newer c400 as well, because as a digital stabilization system you can turn it off. Any camera using a physical IBIS will always have that floating design to work through, which can cause issues with percision in certain situations.
Nice review, auto focus in practice is its biggest weakpoint, especially when there's multiple subjects in frame. Love the camera, and love the IQ you can get it out if with vintage or basically any cine glass, the mk2 will most likely stay s35 since the c400 is RF FF, Canon has a habit of announcing the more expensive model first then quickly following up with more affordable ones, with the c400 due in September, I wouldn't be surprised to see a c70 mk2 announced this year, but if not it's probably not long off.
I totally agree about the build quality not all composite materials are equal, and canon does indeed has really HQ materials. My cameras and lenses really went through some rough conditions and everything managed to survive without a noticeable damage. I do agree with the Jake and his video that the wheel and the display hinge could be done better, also the mounting point for handle tends to come loose. But when I talk with my rental their favourite cameras are canons cause they just work....
Always killing it with these reviews
I have 2 of them. It's a gorgeous image. I'm gonna sell one to offset the cost for my C400 that's coming. I think i'll be good for years to come.
fantastic review, your wealth of knowledge with regards to color and color management really shows. something about your review format is so intuitive and really pleasing to watch. keep killin it man
I noticed the lens and I’m glad you talked about it!
The wheel are the start was spot on lol
Great video dude! The C70 is definitely a GREAT camera (as I've told you repeatedly hahaha). The build quality, and in particular the screen, is my single biggest complaint about the camera. Looking forward to what they might do with a Mark II version!
The lack of EVF is pretty devastating to me. Addon EVF's screw up the ergonomics. The C100 mk2-style body better IMO.
i wonder😂😂😂😂😂, you have to look for a reason to complain, i would rather have good camera with no evf rather than bad camera. Go buy canon r5 ,it has a evf😂😂😂😂,,, use comon sense
@@africah_beautyweird comment. Its valid criticism.
Honestly, I have seen so many videos where I thought, wow, the image is wonderful, just to find out it was shot with the C70. As I am more into photography I went with the R5, but the C70 is just a dream video camera.
I don't get what people mean when they say they don't like the build quality. Because I think this is build like a tank, except for the flippy screen. Everything feels very solidly put together. All the buttons feel good, nothing is rattling. The battery gives a good click when you insert if, giving confidence. Power switch as well. Plastics are also solid, feel rather thick and don't give way when pushed. The hand grip is solid. I don't know what you mean. Other than the screen which is super flimsy. But maybe it need's only one part to make the whole feel bad?
Great review! Quick tip: your first CST that goes from log -> log: it's better to disable tone mapping. With tone mapping on the transformation isn't accurate.
👍🏾👍🏾Jake does it again!!! Thanks, Brother. Peace, all.
And I LUV your Cute Canine Companions there! (HUGE dog lover, myself, hehe.) Cheers, Brother. Best Wishes to you and your family there.
I loved the feature wheel.
That god damn wheel...
Thanks for the great Video
I could go on and on about my C70. I'll never let this thing go unless they come out with a C70MK2 that breaks ground again in ways I can't think of like the first one did.
Another awesome video, by the legend himself!
the intro is something Kasey from camera conspiracies has been saying for a whileeeee
I wonder if your perception of the 24-105 is because you’re not using it on a full frame sensor!
I haven’t used it but it seems like the ultimate utilitarian tool for weddings.
I dont believe you, someone should buy me one so I can test for myself
bro!!! I am laughing my ass off
Always waiting for new Videos. im Already 59 Minutes late god damn.
i love your fonts, may I ask what font did you use? Also amazing video, glad I found this before grabbing myself one of the c70
Listen I'm not usually one to argue on the internet, but have you tried the C200?
Listen I’m not usually one to encourage said argument on the internet but have you tried The Great Gatsby?
I don’t get the complaint of crippling. While the C70 isn’t something related to crippling, it seems that people want there to be no restrictions on less expensive cameras. They have to bring the price down somehow.
Thank you for video. İ have fx3. İ didn't buy but i always think to buy :)) i didnt buy it for two reason 1.Lens options 2. its not big has big body.
contax zeiss review?
No third party RF lenses is a huuuge restriction 😅😅
But there is.
Hi Jake, the C70 With the DGO, probably better than C400 ? For pure quality image
Better DR if you push but more noise at high iso and probably a bit softer as it isnt a 6k down sample
I just got a Canon XL-H1. I should be able to afford a C70 around 2038.
How many times have I told you not to fart on your cameras?
at that price you can buy a dsmc2 RED cinema camera body
People dream of fx3 all i want is c70
Cause what else can they really add to be honest?
Why C70 when Sigma fp?
This camera was in my radar until I hold it in the shop. Build quality feels very cheap and I might have to baby it. Canon's plastic isn't on par with the like of Sony and Nikon.
i am not able to shot in 120fps i am getting black lines with f..ng camera in 120fps, its waste of money
For an owner operator who would take care of their gear, I can see this being a a truthful statement but when it comes to a rental product, the C70 becomes a janky toy that feels like it's about to fall apart. I've had to rent C70's quite a bit and every time it's like about to just spontaneously combust. They would have record errors and ultimately I had to urge a client to stop using it because we lost an entire card in an instant. So if you take care of your things and use it with the utmost respect and dignity, sure. But it's not a tangible rental solution and I would urge anyone considering to rent it to RUN FAR AWAY.
are you sure that was not an issue with the cards? My rental house love c70, the only thing they dont like is the display and its hinge. But after first service canon did improve it a lot. They never reported any other problems with it.
I’ve rented from multiple different vendors with consistent issues across the board, including the record errors. So unless all cards are bad, it seems like a software / hardware bug. But I agree the hinge is one of the worst points of potential physical failure. It always feels like it’s about to bend a bit too far and snap off, and they have varying degrees of tolerance so the more used it is the less the hinge works as intended.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a canon fan, my first DSLR pre video was a the rebel, I was in the trenches with the 7D and 5D, own a C100 Mk2 and a C200 and EOS R. I have loved the C300 and even the C700 for its large quirks. But the C70 feels like a toy comparatively and I have never gotten any rental of that camera to live up to the work horse value of the others. Especially after being a Beta tester for RED with the Komodo back in 2020, I’d take a preproduction model Komodo over the C70 (and i did move the job I rented C70s for to 3 Komodo’s).
@@jgermain453interesting I own c70 for year and a half, have many friends that use it, red bull media house uses it a lot because of its reliability and this is first time I’ve heard about any issues except the hinge and the top handle mount. Wonder is it up to the series of the model since I’m based in Europe but it seams those 20 cameras I’m aware of ended up being the lucky bunch 😅
Agreed it’s not too bad apart for the screen hinge. Used mine for 3 years. I don’t really baby my gear. The mini XLR ports you need to be careful with, when cables are plugged in. Broke one once by accident.
naw man screw that, that lcd hinge is unacceptable bs
U mean video camera
I love the image, just hated the body style.
vidio
Probably for a lot of applications but for run and gun rough dock style it can't beat older c style bodies. That c400 looks great too! (Hopefully it says strong and robust as the past models) I had to return my c70s because the screens kept getting destroyed.
I mean, yeah, for video. Not their best camera overall though.
Camera? 😂
A lot of guys could vastly improve their image quality, by investing $2.50 towards a pack of Walmart safety razors, instead of another $2,500 into a yet another 4K camera system.