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Sorry, but this isn't a good video. first of all, you have to pay for Super Cruise, as you mentioned - can be roughly 6,000 dollars depending on the trim (which is stupid for Cadillac since its the same system - regardless of trim) second of all, the Tesla system you tested was normal Auto Pilot, not Full-self-driving.. AP comes WITH the Tesla. So you basically compared a free drivers assist to a 6,000 dollar drivers assist. third of all (?) - teslas AP and FSD work on ANY road, as long as that road has a middle lane marking. with supercruise, you cannot drive on any road - in fact, its limited to highways; even funnier is that its CERTAIN highways. for example, you cannot drive from the east coast to the west coast with Super Cruise. But with the FREE Auto Pilot, you can. This is such a huge win for Tesla, I cant even understand what makes you think otherwise. its actually funny. I'm really starting to think you're being sponsored by other car brands that can only wish they had teslas tech. and before anyone calls me a fanboy, you must realize I DID have a Tesla - but I traded it in because I drive long distances and I didn't really wanna wait at superchargers as it added 5-6hours of my trip. Ill buy a Tesla again in a heartbeat when they release new battery tech for longer distance drivers.
I'm going to edit this an be a little harsher. You should take this video down and repost it once you spend some time and actually learn about the cars. I watched to learn about supercruise, and since you appear to not know anything about Teslas how can I believe anything you say about SuperCruise? Was the Tesla on a test drive? Did you even read the manual to know the features (no). 1. You don't need to keep your hands at 10-2 to keep Autopiliot happy. An arm on the armrest and hand on the side of the wheel, or a hand on the bottom of the wheel is fine. (I think it takes 10 oz) 2. Autopiliot didn't disengage because you kept your hand off the wheel. It disengaged because you used too much force. It thought you wanted to take over... rookie move. 3. Tesla FSD (and maybe basic autopiliot) will change lands with a turn signal, just like Supercruise. With FSD, it can be configured to *DECIDE* and pass a slower car in front of you all by itself. It will even exit the passing lane... all by itself. 4. Tesla FSD can be configured to take freeway interchanges all by itself. (again, keep a light touch on the wheel). It will also exit a freeway by itself (and revert to lane keeping upon getting on surface streets). I can think of a few times, I was watching the road and listening to music and the car noticed the exit I would have missed. 5. I paid $8k for FSD (hate the inaccurate name), not much different than the $6k supercruise. You mention a $10k FSD price, but not that the version you're testing (or at least the features) was $0. $0 vs $6k is more than $6k vs $10k. Tesla FSD isn't perfect, but is improving. As you noted, the current releases doesn't deal well with widening lanes. It also doesn't deal well with cars merging on the right (can lead to overractive braking). These are things you learn and can anticipate with experience. So again, this video is misleading due to your lack of knowledge. I have no idea what I didn't learn about supercruise!
You quoted the $10,000 price tag of Tesla's FSD and stated SC is up to $6,000 depending on the Trim which you did not detail. In your video you lead people to believe its $10,000 vs $6,000 but then you only compared Tesla's AP features which is INCLUDED against SC's $6000 price tag. Your video is very misleading. I was hoping for a true comparison.
All Tommy's videos are skewed against Tesla for some reason. I have a Tesla and I actually the super cruise might be better than autopilot in some ways. They both have their own advantages and disadvantages but to compare it to the fsd is ridiculous. Very misleading video regarding the costs and capabilities of the different systems. I've never used the super cruise but I like that u don't have to jiggle the wheel. Also u have to be very careful with autopilot and fsd if the lines on the road are worn off. I was very impressed with my autopilot this winter. I was messing with it and it actually worked really well even with snow blowing across the road. Obviously u wouldn't normally use cruise in those situations if u are smart but it was an interesting experiment to see how it reacted.
Yep exactly what I was thinking. Not a good honest review at all. He comes across as a 65 year old man that doesn't like new features because it scares him
yup. lol he literally compared a 6000 dollar price tag to a FREE price tag which is included in teslas. also, SC only works on certain highways ... AP and FSD work on literally any road which has markings. tesla won this battle before it even started.
I’m just really confused as to why you would use the base Tesla auto pilot feature compared to a $8000 driving system in a Cadillac and then say the Cadillacs is better. Why would you not try full self driving Tesla and then the $8000 Cadillac system. It seems to be an unfair comparison of technologies.
It's 2,500 upgrade not 8k. Only on certain lower trims is it 8k. It's also $2,500 In the new CT5 and CT4 Regardless of which Tesla system you compare it to, super cruise is far superior and safer.
@@saintcyberchaos265 simply not true. You’re a fanboy I can tell. I don’t care about either system so I can look at this objectively. Super cruise is a far superior system. Tesla literally relies on you touching the steering wheel. That’s it. That’s the safety. People have been seen sitting in back seat of Tesla’s beating the safety protocol and driving down highway at 80mph. Not possible with super cruise
They are fair comparisons though. They don't get better with more expensive models. Tesla uses cameras so it's not better than super cruise on the highway since Supercruise has the route mapped out as opposed to tesla which has cameras watching the road. Telsa autopilot is more versatile though. Since super cruise can't function in roads, park itself or drive to you. In my opinion though, tesla autopilot is a bit more advanced since you can use it in more areas.
@@SkinnySkinch Clearly you can't look objectively because it would require you to have a clue about both systems which you clearly don't. First off autopilot is STANDARD on every Tesla. Super Cruise is not standard. In fact, it is a $8,850 add on unless you buy a higher trim spec than the Premium Luxury in which case you are paying that anyway for the higher trim spec. The next point is usability. That is a $8,850 option you can only use ON SELECT ROUTES. Meanwhile we can use autopilot on literally any road. You clearly have no clue about what a Tesla will do regarding driver monitoring because it does NOT allow you to leave the seat. You have to trick the system by placing weights to simulate your body. Then you have to deal with the wheel nag which on all public roads and highways requires a light nudge to the wheel every 13 seconds. On interstates it is usually 30+ seconds. THEN you have an interior camera that is monitoring the driver. It works exactly the same as the Cadillacs does. The review is a complete sham because those of us who have driven both know what is what. Autopilot is absolutely MILES ahead. That isn't a debate. Autonomous driving is a game of data collection and extrapolation and nobody has the data that Tesla does. My car drives me almost 200 miles daily in mostly low light and all weather conditions. The Cadillac couldn't do that by nature of only being able to use select routes. He attempts to knock the camera based driver system as an insult but the comedy in that is Cadillac literally uses cameras as well. They both use sensors and cameras and network data of some kind (neural network for Tesla). Tesla's hardware within the vehicles is so far superior to literally anyone else it isn't even funny. GM wouldn't know how to put a proper hardware suite in their vehicles if it was handed to them on an AMD wrapped platter. I love having this debate with people because it is an easy win for Tesla. If we want to get really technical we can mention the fact that for a measly $200/month (or one time 10k) you can get FSD which in standard form will stop for traffic lights/signs, take you on ramp to off ramp, actively changes lanes and much more. In fact, I currently have the FSD Beta on my car which allows me to literally get in my car, set a destination and it takes me there. As of 2020 Tesla had 3 billion miles of autopilot data. Cadillac has 7 million lol. That isn't even a stones throw. Tesla has more autonomous data then literally every automotive company combined. None of these systems are perfect and all are learning but for the love of god people just sit down with the arguments that are backed by absolutely zero knowledge and is a regurgitated headline sponsored by legacy automakers. It doesn't make someone a fan boy because they stick up for the data. The data disagrees literally 100% with you sorry. Class dismissed.
This is nuts. It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes. Look at how much time he spends talking about Tesla’s requirement that you rest a hand on the wheel (a minor nuisance), and then look at how much time he spends talking about GM’s inability to function on most roads (a massive, show-stopping, deal breaking flaw). Autopilot will work on probably 98-99% of the roads I travel. Super Cruise will work on probably 1-2% of the roads I travel.
Couldn't agree more. The wheel requirement is a minor and also easily bypassable nuisance. When i'm driving with Autopilot on a State Route or a not awfully windy backroad it's great. I don't care about the nag because my hand is always on the wheel on those roads. On highways I can bypass the nag by either putting my knee up against the wheel or you can attach a weight to the wheel. With SuperCruise 75% functionality is taken by only being able to use it on roads I rarely travel on, Interstates.
@@luisrosal1322 If GM allowed Super Cruise to be used on roads not named an Interstate then I would consider it better. So no I'm not a fanboy but Super Cruise simply isn't as useful.
Who wants to use auto pilot in other places but the interstate. If you’re on road that are more dense or lower speed you should be hands on wheel alert
@@trenton.tchannel1810 You should always have your hands on the wheel and be alert whenever using either of these systems. Cadillac just has an option to make sure you're paying attention via tracking head and eye movement vs a hold a wheel nag. If I'm stuck behind a guy doing 45-60 in a 55mph state route, I want AP engaged with my hand on the wheel and eyes peeled. This way I don't have to worry about constantly braking and accelerating and I don't have to steer unless it's a very sharp corner. Also I'm a rather admittedly impatient driver and it's much less stressful to have the car handle most driving aspects when following behind someone. I typically don't use it when I don't have a car in front of me. However that's a fairly rare occurance on my route to work.
It takes a little practice to get just the right amount of jiggle on the wheel without disengaging it. Not sure Tommy gave the autopilot a fair chance. Didn't seem like he knew how to use it properly.
Haha I'm not mad. Lol just seems like if you are going to review something u should know how to use it. Would be like shitting into the tank on a toilet and then saying it's not a good toilet cuz it doesn't work right hahaha
@@themeach011 It is disappointing sometimes, when these reviewers obviously don't get to know the product/feature/vehicle enough, then give reviews with misinformation. These guys are usually better then that. 3:35 He applies too much pressure to the wheel when the Tesla indicates he should apply "light" pressure, then declares "Yup, there you have it! If you don't apply pressure when it asks, it will disengage"...NO! You applied TOO MUCH PRESSURE! It wasn't when you applied the pressure, it was that you applied too much! You also don't have to "keep your hands on the wheel" on the Tesla... I drive in auto drive all the time, hands free, not on the steering wheel and when asked to apply light pressure to the wheel, you can simply turn the left small knob on the steering wheel, and the message is dismissed. A little research and Tommy would have discovered this option. Or, just give the steering wheel a gentle tug. Again, not a big deal and I love their reviews, but spend maybe an hour with a car before offering your opinion and stating facts that are incorrect.
To be fair, you didn't test Tesla's "full self driving." In the conclusion you say Supercruise is more confidence inspiring than full self driving -- how do you know?
Call me a Tesla fanboy but this was an unfair comparison. Supercruise is cool since you don't keep your hands on the wheel. But a Tesla with navigate on Autopilot is worlds better. On the highway it'll change lanes by itself to keep you in the fastest lane, no driver input required. And also the option to hit the blinker and change on your schedule. It'll also take freeway interchanges and exits without intervention. Of course that's all will your hands on the wheel. I can also engage Autopilot on a forest back road at midnight and I can't do that with supercruise
So you prefer the system that costs anywhere from $2500 - $6500 as an option over basic Autopilot at no cost? You deride the FSD option because it's $10k but then try to make a comparison to Super Cruise without testing it? Does the cost of that Super Cruise option include over the air updates to improve it? FSD is $10k because it future proofs your car and already allows your car to do much more than what Super Cruise does. All in all not an even comparison.
I also notice there was no mention of price for either vehicle with the options tested. A fully loaded Model Y LR AWD with FSD is $64k. How much was that Caddy with the Super Cruise? Looks like it would be about $90K?
@@SkippyPB. The software updates. Obviously, if the hardware needs changing, that won't be free. Unlike other manufacturers, there is an option to update some hardware in the car for a fee once it becomes outdated.
@@ymcpa73 the Tesla has what it needs to be relevant with full self driving hardware built into every car. I'm not sure what the next hardware update would need to be when the car already has what it needs to achieve the final goal of fsd. Just my thought. I know that there is always improvements in things but once the goal is achieved and the vehicle can do what it's supposed to it shouldn't need anything added to it. New generations may have subtle improvements but the old ones will still work with what they have. Just my two cents
Not a good review imo. First off the Tesla did not "zigzag" or "get confused" like he said at 2:57. It just went to the middle of the lane like it was supposed to. Also he made it seem like Supercruise is cheaper than Autopilot which couldn't be further from the truth. Autopilot is FREE and it's included with all Teslas. Full self driving is $10k but that's because it includes the promise of added features in the future. Enhanced Autopilot is an option that is sometimes available (last year it was available for $4000) and it includes all the features of FSD but without new upcoming features. He didn't talk much about the features of enhanced Autopilot which include Navigate on Autopilot, Autopark, and smart summon. Navigate on Autopilot is available on freeways and highways and it will make lane changes to pass slower vehicles(or get over to let faster vehicles pass), and it will get off at the correct interchange or exit, all without any manual input except to confirm that you're still paying attention. He made a really big deal about Supercruise making the lane change but he still had to use the turn signal and turn it off, like how is that useful?? At that point I might as well change lanes myself. I also think it's a pretty big deal that Autopilot works pretty much anywhere. I do a lot of driving on really long country roads with hardly any traffic. Autopilot makes it so much easier and I guarantee Supercruise wouldn't be available there. It's frustrating to see his bias against Tesla every time
@@kamilb8232 The hands off thing is not that big of a deal, certainly not as important as he was trying to make it. It's just a safety requirement. In the future Tesla will likey utilize the cabin camera to make sure drivers are paying attention. And anyway, all you have to do is keep your hand resting on the bottom of the steering wheel. It's easy and comfortable, not at all like he was trying to make it seem
@@ericmorgan372 Your bias isn't showing at all. "hAnDs oFf iSn't tHaT bIg oF a dEaL" as all car manufacturers are racing for it and it's what higher level SAE autonomous requires.
First, big fan and love your channel. You compared Super Cruse to Auto Pilot but imho a better comparison would be SC to Enhanced AP. Enhances AP gives you all of the features Tesla’s AP has minus traffic light & stop sign control and navigation on city streets. This $4000 update has a nearly identical feature set and average price point with SC. Where EAP really shines is “on ramp to off ramp” navigation with auto lane changing. That makes long trips super easy, barely an inconvenience. I know you guys try not to be bias against Tesla but I think you missed the mark this time. Not trying to be mean or anything. My 2 cents.
I was thinking the same. I've driven Tesla FSD and I've driven a vehicle with Supercruise and to me it seemed like Tesla had the far superior system. Just so convenient to use and capable on pretty much any road with painted lines. I have a hard time seeing how anyone else who has driven both could feel like SC was better overall?
@@ericmorgan372 After that previous video this kid made about Tesla (with the fake arguing), i don't know how he thinks he is still credible. I'm sure SuperCruise is a pretty great though, albeit a bit more limited
A perfectly forward-facing and alert driver is allowed to take their hands off the steering wheel and the car drives itself. If that person then falls asleep, the vehicle shuts off all of the drivers assistance, which is actually the only time a driver would ever NEED to be assisted behind the wheel. And this deserves praise? I swear the entire world has gone insane.
Seriously. You fall asleep in the Tesla and it pulls over for you safely and turns on the hazards. You fall asleep in the Caddy and it just assumes you want to die in a fiery car crash and turns everything off on the highway for you lol. But sure, it's more "confidence inspiring"
I must say I'm pretty disappointed in the level of effort put into this video. You don't really challenge the systems at all (go on some curvier highways, construction zones, high traffic scenarios, etc.). I'm assuming you guys don't have the FSD package because you didn't test Navigate on Autopilot at all. It actually looks like this is your first time using Super Cruise, so how can you say which is better? I've been using Autopilot for years now, and while it's not perfect and it can seem twitchy, it's very capable in challenging situations. It's 2021, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that you can have a system like super cruise that does lane centering, and adaptive cruise pretty well.
Hey TFL, thanks for this please do more content where you include a review of the driver assist features in cars. This is a huge part of modern cars and not all are equally good. More!
So if you drive mostly on the highway Cadillac's system is better. If you spend anytime on 2 lane rural roads then Tesla's system is better...because it actually functions on all roads.
@@Alex.AL_26 What's a "major" highway? Freeways are major highways, considering that Supercruise works on ver 200K miles of highway. Besides, as Tommy stated, how can you trust it completely when there are so many variables, like right turners, pedestrians, motorcyclists and etc. The camera system clearly has trouble making decisions when the conditions suddenly vary. I would like to have a sure-footed system for those freeway miles weather on my way to and from the suburbs or on long vacation drives with my family.
@@ronlheureux7623 Even though Tesla's autopilot is not perfect, I would prefer to have a system that I can use everyday instead of a system than I can use maybe once a year.
One works anywhere while the other is “geofenced” into locations it can identify. The Cadillac is like grandma, she can drive places and make turns as long as can see the landmarks she recognizes.
Poor analogy. The Cadillac is more like a trucker that knows his route and does it professionally, while the Tesla is more like an eager teenager who just got their license and will drive anywhere without knowing what they're getting into.
@@blang38 Oh I don't have FSD or the Supercruise, I just enjoy learning about technology! One says "I know this place, lets stay here and enjoy, while the other says "this place looks interesting, lets explore it"
Tesla's system is more impressive. Cannot compare Auto-Pilot with SuperCruise, rather must compare FSD since that is the comparable level. Fully available FSD works on highway as well or better than Super Cruise, and will work at some primitive level anywhere, but not well enough to trust yet. FSD beta, which v9.0 of will be released likely by May, can and does drive cars almost anywhere w/o interventions. Does still require steering wheel touch, but that is required by regulators, not system capability. Super Cruise uses the look at eyes system, a newer gen of tech, that admittedly is better than having to tough steering wheel, but both are temporary solutions that will go away, once regulators allow true autonomy. FSD is close to being able to do on its own. and according to Tesla, with 2000 drivers using the system for approaching 100 million miles of driving, no accidents. Today FSD (Beta version) is likely around 50 Percentile against human drivers, e.g. drives better than 50% of human drivers. Within a year or so, likely to be at 80% point. Anything above 50% point will lower accidents and deaths against human drivers, but want 99.9 percentile before letting no drivers, one assumes.
I have FSD on my Y and the only thing the Cadillac has that mine does not is that the camera can keep track of your eyes to determine that you’re paying attention vs the Tesla currently requiring you to “hold” the wheel. I understand the camera in the Y will be used for the same functionality once the FSD beta is in wider release (I am frustrated that it’s not out yet considering I paid for it last August). To be clear, with FSD you can navigate to an address and it will change lanes and exit a highway (when navigate on autopilot turns off) - it also does a better job of avoiding the “wiggle” when an on or off ramp comes up. I think you should really redo the test with an FSD-equipped Tesla to get a better comparison. I think the one real advantage Super Cruise has right now is the camera. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem any better to me and is limited to only certain pre-mapped roads. It will be interesting to see when the full FSD beta finally gets released to those of us who already paid for it. I can honestly say that the delay after being promised that it would just be “a few months” or “by the end of the year” or “the 4th quarter” is really my biggest complaint. The existing FSD functionality is actually great (although the stopping at green lights without an override and the stopping for marked signals that are off, such as crosswalks and school zones needs to be improved) and I use it every day. It will be interesting to see what Rivian offers when they finally actually start delivering their vehicles.
Its become very clear to me the Cadillac paid off Doug and now you guys to make this comparison that barely scratches the surface of these two systems.
what I'm thinking. Like saying autopilot uses cameras, it uses barely any of the cameras and its not doing a hell of lot at that.. Navigate on Autopilot uses all the cameras and totally drivers differently than autopilot. 9000 miles of self driving under autopilot / navigate on auto and ill go with a system that isn't faking it to make it with a geo fenced solution.
Tesla is building with vision with the idea of adapting to its surrounding. Cadillac is building with geo with the idea of the world adapting around it. This makes handling things like lane closures, construction zones, and outdated maps a very serious problem. This video is obviously biased but I think geo based autonomy is incredibly dangerous and should be a serious cause for concern...
Tesla's basic autopilot is free. Gotta pay for it in Cadillac. You can use autopilot anywhere, not so with Cadillac. You PROVED that you can look away and Super Cruise was still on which makes it unsafe for many people. All of this stuff about confidence one way or another is just mostly your personal bias against Tesla. On highways, the system is rock solid. The worst thing about Super Cruise is your get a Cadillac with it. Who actually is buying that car? lol
You compared the free/included autopilot feature against the super cruise which cost a couple thousand to add. Why don’t you do the comparison with FSD and Super Cruise to get an actual value for what you pay for.
A better comparison would have been with Tesla's Enhanced AutoPilot aka EAP (not FSD ($10k) & not plain AutoPilot(No charge) ) vs the Cadillac Super Cruise system. EAP includes highway lane changes (with or without driver indicator input) and Navigate on AutoPilot, which performs merging on on-ramps and exiting on off-ramps autonomously. EAP will also make lane change maneuvers automatically to put you in the best traffic flow based upon navi real-time traffic data and shift you over prior to approaching your exit. You can go for hours in any of these Tesla systems (AP, EAP or FSD) without it turning off just by resting your hands on the bottom of the steering wheel, which is where they want to naturally land anyway. And to make the comparison even more fair, perform the tests on a stretch of highway which GM has not yet mapped out yet in their hyper-accurate Navi data maps.
Hey Tommy, comparing AutoPilot with SuperCruise doesn't make any sense. AP is free and included with any Tesla, SC is an expensive option. Besides, AP is a fancy cruise control that can stay in the lane, and nothing more than that. It's only useful if you need a few seconds to drink water or smthg while you drive on the highway. Now, FSD is a completely different kind of software, there is no connection between AP ans FSD. AP is not a preview for FSD, it never was. So your conclusion that SC is better than FSD is based on a premise that FSD will make you keep your hands on the wheel? Haven't you seen the videos previewing the FSD Beta? There is no such requirement for FSD. I hope this was nothing more than your April fool's joke. In this case, good one, Tommy.
Tesla Autopilot is free and works on all streets. Cadillac is not working on enough roads. Hands on wheel is a safety thing and should not be a differencemaker when talking about what is best. . There is only 1 winner; Tesla.
How do you know what Cadillac is working on? Do you have access to research and development? I can tell you for a fact that they are working on street level driving but that doesn't mean they have to tell you everything.
Apparently TFL did not spring for FSD on the Tesla. Autopilot is a standard, $0 feature, where the Super Cruise is up to $6k. Not having FSD didn't allow a demo of connecting navigation to autopilot. Very useful for complicated major city freeway transitions especially when teamed with automatic lane changes. I used this myself the other day to get to a vaccination site across town that required transitioning between 4 different freeways and dealing with rush hour. Can't wait for the City Streets beta that will come out this month.
@@hellkitty1014 Yeah. I'd much rather have my hand on the wheel, just in case. Besides, what's the issue with that? What else do you need these hands for?
As someone who lives in South Dakota, looking at the super cruise coverage map, with the few amount of roads that the system can even be used on, super cruise is almost useless. It could only be useful for me a few times of the year when doing long road trips. 200,000 miles of premapped roads might seem like a lot, but it is only a single digit percentage of what Tesla’s system can do. I can use autopilot on our Tesla everyday, and it comes standard. I can activate it pretty much whenever/wherever I want, rest my hand on the side of the steering wheel, and forget about it.
Not a lot of differences between autopilot and FSD on the freeway??? With FSD, it's pretty much on ramp to off ramp (hands still on the wheel) but it will automatically go around slow cars, navigate you to correct lanes for freeway changes and take interchanges. That's a huge different compared to standard autopilots lane keeping and adaptive cruise only.
@@couchpotatoes5158 Lol it's called "water bottle". I used to stick one there at the beginning but honestly eventually I got used to resting my hand on the wheel while watching movies so I don't even stick a water bottle on the wheel anymore. I love road trips now, I get to catch up on my Netflix shows. Tesla rules!
@@KristianAlekov dude you are putting yourself and others in danger. I use autopilot myself and I love it but it is still not fool proof. So be careful
Or make noises since you'd think this would happen when you fall asleep on a road trip highway drive.. confused me as well, but I want to like it because hate teslas look
@@hudsanity_1590 Tesla auto pilot is just as bad. If you aren’t touching that wheel it will shut off but also sometime it randomly shuts off. I had a long term rental and if you go over a bridge at highway speeds and there is a bump auto pilot will just shut off.
My 2015 P90D with AP1 does all of those things. The only reason we have to touch the wheel is regulation that's changing. I just rest my knee on it and let it drive me down the freeway hands free. FSD is beyond super cruise and will change lanes on its own basically driving you from A to B. Would you feel better if Tesla charged $10k more for the car and gave FSD for free? Because with a $100k Cadillac you seem to think there's value in including it in the price.
My Model 3 Performance was in the Mid $60K range with FSD and I think that it is a pretty high end luxury car for everything you get. I can't imagine paying $100k for a GM vehicle.
@@NoNegotiations With Tesla and the current laws restricting their hands free, the wheel has to feel resistance for it to keep driving autonomously. If you lean your knee against the bottom you can drive hands free. Driving for hours hands free is very relaxing and allows you to eat or drink etc while the car does the work. My 2015 will change lanes with a blinker push while 6 years later GM now has that feature. The newer Tesla can drive from A to B with little driver interacting.
Super cruise is great on the marked highways but is becomes completely useless on any 2 lane rural roads. Most of my commute involves driving around 60 MPH on rural roads so Tesla's autopilot is the clear winner
@@DJKiDDKlashez That is true maybe Supercruise will be better in a few years but right now Tesla's Autopilot is better and this video is talking about the system right now not what the system will be like in the future.
Man I wanna live there. Going the speed limit of 65 and nobody is trying to run you off the road. Speed limit here is 55 and I have to do 75 to avoid constant maniacs and even then they still fly up, almost crash into the back of you and fly in the other lane and then fly in front of you and continue to do 100mph
55 MPH? Geez, I pity you... Getting anywhere must take ridiculous time. We have 85 MPH here, and even that is usually ignored, because it feels slow on such nice roads.
@@wojciechmuras553 Yeah the most we have in the state is 65 but it’s mainly 55 and cops all over the place ( Not so much anymore ) but honestly since the pandemic has been only time can really go above 30 on the highway cuz was always backed up. Traffic is slowly going back to how it was which the people going 100mph gonna be shit out luck
Atlanta? Because that's the worst place I've ever driven. Can't drive 2 miles without some asshole in a charger or Challenger weaving all over the place at 110mph
So the Tesla has auto lane change, either it will change lanes by itself to pass slower traffic, get out of the passing lane or to maintain its programmed route. It will also allow you to initiate a lane change by activating the turn signal,, but then it turns the signal off when complete,, no more interaction required after unnitiation. Caddy has semi-auto lane change, i.e. activate the turn signal to initiate lane change and deactivate when complete. Tesla wins hands down.
@@maoss40 20s not 30s and it seems to be different at different speeds and environment. You can place a finger against the wheel or just flip a scroll wheel when it starts flashing, otherwise look around and enjoy the scenery. SC not so much, it's more a babysitter than AP. The Kia Telluride on the other hand is a good 2min before you have to touch the steering wheel and it a lot smoother in turns.
@@KingKola01 Oh, the Supercruise that's installed in like 5 Cadillacs is a mass market product, while FSD which is in millions of Teslas isn't? Yeah, sure... (Yes, I'm aware that complete Beta build is currently only available to a limited number of US customers. Still, it's orders of magnitude more than Supercruise.)
@@KingKola01 Supercruise only works on highways. FSD with AP1 and limited beta FSD work on both cities and highways I navigated the mountain pass from Los Angeles to Solvang right after Oxnard. Which is not possible with Supercruise.
I think a better comparison is Tesla Enhanced Autopilot or Tesla FSD versus Cadillac Supercruise. TESLA Autopilot is Tesla bare bone system. But I guess you guys know that by now 🙈. Also cost of autopilot vs Supercruise? Also in would rather have my hands on the steering wheel ready to make correction and quicker reaction time rather than having my hands off the steering and just looking at the road ahead.
We have a 2021 Escalade Premium Luxury Platinum 4x4 and love it! Did not opt for the Super Cruise option though. The adaptive cruise really does work well. Would be nice if you could get a little closer to the car in front but i reckon they have to conservative with those things.... Thanks for a great review Tommy!
I have a 2021 esv premium luxury 2wd. I wouldn't have gotten super cruise anyway because it wasn't an option for when it went on sale in 2020. Was supposed to come out as an option in the spring or so the salesman told me.
@@NateDawg0007 no a bigger and heavier vehicle means bigger and heavier duty brakes. The brakes on my and 78beeper's escalade are big as hell. I literally wanted to swap them for smaller comfier rims like 17 or 18" to make the ride less harsh and the discs are huge 18" rotors. Probably can only get 20" or maybe 19" but those are a pain. they're a lot bigger than the chevy and GMC brakes and those have zero reported issues with braking distance anyway and that's considering they can weigh a lot more if configured larger too. This thing can stop hard no doubt.
Not really a good comparison. Please buy and use Tesla FSD on regular streets and highways. You are simply discounting what FSD it can do for driving experience without even using it.
Yup, I like the idea of paying Tesla an additional 10 grand for automatic lane changing. You doubters might want wand to consider that Caddy (GM) will be updating their mapping and the tech, as well. If you wand to update the current available tech, it’s $2,500 to $6,000. Every electric car make can do over the air updates, like Tesla does.
a bit of misinformation here. With the purchase of FSD, you'll get navigation with autopilot. That's a total hands off experience from point to point, the beta program if you're in it will do hands off on all roads.
If you are driving in the right lane, does Supercruise avoid cars that are merging from your right? Tesla's current version software does - it slows down as needed to give them a spot to merge into. How about road changes? If the lane ahead is coned off for repairs or an accident, Tesla's software moves over on its own. How about another longer test of Supercruise on the highway to see how it handles these fairly common traffic events.
Amen! Just took a trip in a Tesla, it recognized and hit the brakes for a van turning off slowly and i ran autopilot thru a daily changing construction zone. That Teslas was doing some thinking!
How much did you get paid from GM. And opening the video with "Independent & Honest" is just an audacious joke. It seems you need to point that out in the attempt to obfuscate your evident bias.....
Isn’t super cruise only available on streets that GM has already mapped? Which makes Tesla’s autopilot and FSD better since u can use it where super cruise is unavailable
The driver in me still isn't too keen on self-driving cars, but the techie in me is intrigued and amazed that technology like Super Cruise is present and usable. And the cynic in me thinks that no automaker should proclaim to have "full/total/true/etc" self driving until you can get in the backseat and have the car drive for you.
Go and take a Tesla for a test drive. I have three engineering degrees and absolutely love the Autopilot in my Model Y. I paid for the FSD and looking forward to being include in a future Beta. Oh, and yes I have my Starlink, running a latency between 24ms and 31ms, occasionally a little higher , but in that ballpark. Download Speed are between 232.52Mb and 309.52Mb with uploads around 24.50 Mb.
Tesla FSD Beta also recognizes (and stops and goes for) stop lights, stop signs, pedestrians, construction zones, bad weather and more. You don’t have to keep your hands on the wheel, and the interval for touching the wheel is based on an algorithm- it’s not always 30 seconds, sometimes it’s minutes. They’re both good, but I think you sold Tesla a little short.
So, SC drives a little more confidently but only on a narrow subset of roads but the Tesla requires more supervision but works virtually anywhere. I have a Model Y with FSD and the Tesla will automatically lane change around slower traffic and navigate through freeway interchanges and take exits - all things not shown here. Also, I find it very comfortable to rest my hand on the steering wheel which provides the right amount of torque to let the system know I'm still alive. I've driven literally hours this way. Finally, I find many non highway roads where it comes in handy, especially in any kind of stop and go traffic. Its kind of disingenuous to suggest that its unsafe to use on anything other than a highway.
Navigating a highway safely is no small feat. Kiddos to both companies for their respective achievements. I'm curious which handles accident avoidance better. Aggressive drivers changing lanes, sudden stops, etc.
If lawyers and sensational media wasn't a thing every car would be self driving on the highway. The highway is relatively easy to automate. Autopilot is near perfect. It's different than the other softwares. We already know autopilot data shows it's more safe than a human. At the very least every car should be able to stay in between the lines without your hands on the wheel, but again lawyers and execs are stupid. They don't understand people buy Tesla not because of the battery, but because of the software. All these companies are investing in the ev side, but virtually no money on software.
6:39 You look very relaxed, sarcastic. Tommy, despite you could not engage super cruise control before you were on the highway and you couldn't make it go off ramp and it costs up to $6000 and it requires a subscription and it only works on 5% of all american roads it is the clear winner against the free system that comes with the Tesla that could have been engaged on the on ramp and is working on most roads and is getting better every day and will improve drastically when the new beta is released (because FSD and ACC is using the same code with some disabled features.) Sad to see someone being so focused on disliking Tesla and trying to make it look bad against any car you compare it to, even a Hydrogen car that you cannot fill up anywhere close is better than a Tesla. I must say: Tommy, you are the fool!
Tesla FSD feels very confident to me. Lane closure, road work, road hazards, actual automatic lane changes, automatic highway changes, speed limit changes! Tesla’s autopilot is where it’s at. And when auto city driving come out!! Hands down most advanced system.
This video isn't going to age well. In just the next 3 months or so the new FSD Beta would become available to more people and it would be apparent (again) that GM/Ford/etc are 5 years (if not more) behind Tesla.
How about Tesla release the ACTUAL FSD people have paid $10k for instead of just "beta"? GM Supercruise is an official release, not still in "beta testing" for the next 5 years.
@@stephenj4937 first, most people have paid much less than $10,000. I paid only $4000 a few years ago. Secondly, the included autopilot (ie free) does more than the Cadillac $6000. It can drive on any road whereas Cadillac $6000 can only drive on less than 10% of highways - not to mention surface streets. Finally, we already get value out of the FSD features like traffic light stop and go, summon etc, and with FSD coming very soon, it will exceed any other system on the market by far.
@@hellkitty1014 version 2 and still only works in less than 10 percent of highways and can’t do surface streets at all. It also costs $6000 with an expensive car like a Cadillac whereas autopilot is included with every Tesla, works on all highways, surface streets, detects traffic signs and traffic lights and can transition across highways with navigate on autopilot.
Florida drivers where sunglasses most often when driving . How can Super Cruise see a drivers eyes in reflective and polarizing sunglasses? Not wearing protective eyeglasses when driving is inherently dangerous.
I thought of that too. They must have thought of that. I wear my sunglasses basically all the time. I wonder if anyone knows if it would work with them on or not?
My preference is still with Tesla. My 6 year old Tesla can keep it in the lane and change lanes for me on State and County roads, which is 95% of my driving. Newer Teslas are better than my older one. But Supercruise is still a big improvement over basic cruise control.
I agree. SC would be next to useless for me because I avoid highways whenever possible. Tesla's Autopilot works beautifully on two lane country roads. The only thing you have to be aware of are some limitations. For example, if someone in the opposing lane cuts across your lane to make a left turn and they are doing it with plenty of room to spare, AP panics and stands on the brakes even though YOU know the car will be out of your lane well before you reach that point.
same, Tesla is the best in rural areas, not to mention I don't want to take the chance driving a GM vehicle in the middle of nowhere and leaving me stranded when it breaks down.
The one advantage SC has is the hands off ability and Tesla should be 100% prioritize using the internal camera to do the same. I'd even pay money for it as an extra feature as I'm guessing patent licensing costs are part of the problem? Needing to manually turn on/off your blinker to change lanes makes it a pretty useless feature and to me is harder than actually doing it myself. In a Tesla with FSD you can set it to the same way but it's quickly obvious you need to just turn it off and let the car change lanes by itself. Finally SC is useless for most people because they will turn it off on roads under construction. For most commuter routes these roads are under constant construction and so it can never be used. Tesla navigates construction no problem.
in a few updates then internal camera will be used. fsd beta has booted some people off because they weren't paying attention, so its the NN training that will make it to the public release soon. Can't wait!
@@rickkay9548 Yeah, that's good, although I do believe that must be clearly stated in the EULA, and agreed on by the user. Tesla just engaging the internal camera on unsuspecting FSD Betatesters might've been unlawful, even if a good thing for safety.
@@wojciechmuras553 Thats exactly what happens. its also opt-in on the non-fsd-beta (Its disabled unless you enable it) and fsd beta docs say all cameras will be in use for ML use before accepting the invite.
When Tesla wanted you to put hands on the wheel and apply light force not a jerky motion which is why it disengaged. Normally it wouldn't have if you did it right.
This comparison is completely wrong. Super Cruise does exactly what what AP1 could do in 2015. Then people started doing stupid things and Tesla drastically lowered the time you have to touch the wheel. AP2 is much much more, you didn’t even mentioned Nav on AP
Comma AI is better than super cruise according to Consumer Reports and mine cost 1,200 with the harness. It woks very well with Honda, Toyota, and Hyundai vehicles and you can drive hands off for hours just like the Caddy. It changes lanes but you do need to start turning the wheel a little to initiate the change. I am moving from a Sonata to a Pacfica Hybrid so we will see how it does with that car soon.
Let’s be clear. TheCaddy system did not work when you looked sideways or looked down. It only worked when you covered it with your finger. You made light of this important failure. Try to be objective though I’m sure Caddy appreciates your over sight.
So disappointed,these is childish,am unsubscribing,how will you use a Tesla without FSD,You could not even show us all the moves that Tesla FSD can do.
@@McMooo587 I understand why they would not though. Usually they keep their vehicles just a year and the system isn't fully ready anyways. Plus, what's the fun in watching that?
The main passenger - the dog called Blaze was enjoying lots of space in Cadillac and was showing his happy face with the tongue out. Those were the funniest moments of the video.
Cadillac is using a computer program to control SuperCruise which is why it’s so limited in the roads it can use. Tesla FSD is using artificial intelligence and every Tesla on the road is providing data that enables the system to learn. As time goes on Tesla’s system just gets better and better. As time goes on Cadillac will be left behind.
@@mamadouaziza2536 no doubt they will update but no way can they update by programming SuperCruise near as fast with the detail that Artificial Intelligence can provide. Everyday Tesla gets more and more data.
tesla doesn't since it doesnt use optics yet. Super cruise uses infrared i believe so most glasses wont matter. Eventually the Tesla will be completely hands free within a few software updates
@@rickkay9548 Tesla can't go completely hands free because DOT currently requires hands or optic, software update can't give tesla the hardware. It will have to be built in their future cars.
@@KingKola01 WRONG. Every Model 3 and model Y ever built, and all new Model S/X already have the hardware built in, and software is already under development to enable it. The camera behind the rearview mirror uses AI to tell where the person is looking, as well as wether or not they are using their cell phone. The next sw release will enable the feature. I don't think SuperCruise or other systems track cell phone use. Also DOT doesn't handle this driver safety technology governance, its their NHTSA arm (DOT is just their oversight body). You can check out the cars face tracking technology here insideevs.com/news/499611/tesla-cabin-camera-analyses-you/
@@rickkay9548 that's not the same camera needed for FSD. It's a low resolution camera intended to monitor seconds before a crash, it doesn't have infared to track the eyes, it's not center around the drive but rather placed at the height of a rear view mirror. Teslas definitely don't have the hardware yet. Even it's beta "FSD" isn't even full driving, it's triggered warnings from NHTSA because of it's confusing customers. FDS beta isn't working as promised yet, then hands off driving definitely won't happen within the next 1 year with Tesla.
@@KingKola01 Read the link I attached and please research before posting again. The cameras resolution is more than high enough to do facial tracking and literally already is being used for that in the FSD BETA. People in the beta have already been kicked out of the program for not paying attention or for using cell phones. How do you think they got caught? Thats what you call CHECK MATE. The cameras are also going to be used for robo taxi cabin security. Currently they are only used for crash recording, but you are 100% wrong on every level imaginable that they will need a hardware upgrade. Infrared is not needed since the cameras have very capable low-light performance for night time use. ir would be great, but pointless for eye tracking. The link I sent will literally clear your massive confusion up immediately. If you don't understand how it works, thats ok, most lay people have no clue, but continually pretending to makes you look silly. Dont bring crayons to an engineering discussion.
After using Tesla AP/FSD for almost 3 years it is very competent on city streets and stop and go traffic. It avoids pedestrians, bikes, etc. Once engaged on a road with at least one lane line it will operate correctly on the road even if the road becomes unmarked. Oncoming cars are passed satisfactorily. This is not yet the latest Tesla FSD beta which is much more advanced and about to be released to FSD purchasers soon. If you disregard Tesla "nags", it does not disconnect. After 3 audible warnings it comes to a stop on the road with emergency flashers on assuming you've died. Do more homework on your Tesla reviews.
So navigate on autopilot will do automatic lane changes and navigation on ramp to off ramp. Using that would have been a better comparison against a $6000 system.
Do any of the modern systems like these in the video recognize emergency vehicles?; Such as vehicles coming up behind you, coming from the side? Do they also move over for emergency vehicles/other vehicles stopped on the shoulder? If you weren't paying attention would it move over to let the ones coming up behind you pass?
This isn't even a fair comparison... you are trying to compare the standard feature that every tesla gets to a $6000 package group + a $25 on going subscription that is locked down to select roads. I will say i love the light on the steering wheel & eye tracking. Tesla 100% should adopt those features. I can only hope this will be redone one day.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather the hand on the wheel than eye tracking. The Tesla has an internal driver facing camera so they can certainly do it. If they introduce eye tracking I hope it's an option, so you can select one or the other. Phillip.
You don't have to keep your hands on the wheel for Tesla autopilot. You just have to torque it a bit every once in a while (varies depending on your speed/the situation) to assure it you're paying attention and it will happily continue. You can just wait for it to nanny you about torquing the wheel and you have a good several seconds to respond. When you use it regularly it is second nature and very relaxing.
The biggest issue with super cruise is that it’s not available on many roads, not even the freeway that’s closest to me. I live near Seattle even. I don’t care how good a system is in some areas, I care how good it is where I can use it. The super cruise system isn’t available at all for where I do 90% of my driving. I can use my Tesla autopilot system in my neighborhood and about 99.9% of the roads near me. I don’t care what stupid car reviewers say because they don’t daily drive the cars.
The best feature of the Cadillac I saw here was that apparently it shows u a front video feed in ur instrument cluster. Thats pretty cool! Supercruise clearly does very well on the highway, thanks to all the HD mapping, but it isn't a viable solution for full self driving. While tesla definitely has plenty of examples of it doing wonky things, this video fails to show any of em. The "issue" with the lane widening that he shows was terrible example since it actually handled that situation perfectly lol.
Does the caddy get updates? Auto park? Will It come and get you? And why when in super cruise and you switch lanes that you have to manually turn off the signal?
I fail to see how a Caddy on Super Cruise no longer detects the driver looking at the road, and decides "Yeah, I should just disengage at highway speeds. That'll get them to pay attention again." If someone dies behind the wheel, or if someone falls asleep, gently flashing a light isn't going to wake them up. Neither will simply disengaging autopilot. All it's doing is turning a driverless hunk of steel controlled by AI into a driverless hunk of steel controlled by Isaac Newton.
Fsd is supposed to be able to navigate to a desired location you program into the car. So it should change lanes to pass people automatically as well as navigate off ramps and intersections and even left turns across multiple lanes of traffic. I've seen videos of the beta in action. It's actually really remarkable. The thing of having to jiggle the wheel all the time is annoying though.
Does this get updates when they map out new highways or are you just stuck with the tech that it has when you buy it? My favorite part about tesla with FSD is its constantly improving
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@@TheSasikar yep. Not a good review at all
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What's on the display of the Cadillac at the 7 minute mark? Is that a front facing camera on the dash display?
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those amazon van drivers are like WTF is this escalade doing lmao
Foreal that amazon driver prolly thought he cut him off for fun😂
Sorry, but this isn't a good video.
first of all, you have to pay for Super Cruise, as you mentioned - can be roughly 6,000 dollars depending on the trim (which is stupid for Cadillac since its the same system - regardless of trim) second of all, the Tesla system you tested was normal Auto Pilot, not Full-self-driving.. AP comes WITH the Tesla. So you basically compared a free drivers assist to a 6,000 dollar drivers assist.
third of all (?) - teslas AP and FSD work on ANY road, as long as that road has a middle lane marking. with supercruise, you cannot drive on any road - in fact, its limited to highways; even funnier is that its CERTAIN highways. for example, you cannot drive from the east coast to the west coast with Super Cruise. But with the FREE Auto Pilot, you can. This is such a huge win for Tesla, I cant even understand what makes you think otherwise. its actually funny. I'm really starting to think you're being sponsored by other car brands that can only wish they had teslas tech.
and before anyone calls me a fanboy, you must realize I DID have a Tesla - but I traded it in because I drive long distances and I didn't really wanna wait at superchargers as it added 5-6hours of my trip. Ill buy a Tesla again in a heartbeat when they release new battery tech for longer distance drivers.
Lol
I'm going to edit this an be a little harsher. You should take this video down and repost it once you spend some time and actually learn about the cars. I watched to learn about supercruise, and since you appear to not know anything about Teslas how can I believe anything you say about SuperCruise? Was the Tesla on a test drive? Did you even read the manual to know the features (no).
1. You don't need to keep your hands at 10-2 to keep Autopiliot happy. An arm on the armrest and hand on the side of the wheel, or a hand on the bottom of the wheel is fine. (I think it takes 10 oz)
2. Autopiliot didn't disengage because you kept your hand off the wheel. It disengaged because you used too much force. It thought you wanted to take over... rookie move.
3. Tesla FSD (and maybe basic autopiliot) will change lands with a turn signal, just like Supercruise. With FSD, it can be configured to *DECIDE* and pass a slower car in front of you all by itself. It will even exit the passing lane... all by itself.
4. Tesla FSD can be configured to take freeway interchanges all by itself. (again, keep a light touch on the wheel). It will also exit a freeway by itself (and revert to lane keeping upon getting on surface streets). I can think of a few times, I was watching the road and listening to music and the car noticed the exit I would have missed.
5. I paid $8k for FSD (hate the inaccurate name), not much different than the $6k supercruise. You mention a $10k FSD price, but not that the version you're testing (or at least the features) was $0. $0 vs $6k is more than $6k vs $10k.
Tesla FSD isn't perfect, but is improving. As you noted, the current releases doesn't deal well with widening lanes. It also doesn't deal well with cars merging on the right (can lead to overractive braking). These are things you learn and can anticipate with experience.
So again, this video is misleading due to your lack of knowledge. I have no idea what I didn't learn about supercruise!
You quoted the $10,000 price tag of Tesla's FSD and stated SC is up to $6,000 depending on the Trim which you did not detail. In your video you lead people to believe its $10,000 vs $6,000 but then you only compared Tesla's AP features which is INCLUDED against SC's $6000 price tag. Your video is very misleading. I was hoping for a true comparison.
All Tommy's videos are skewed against Tesla for some reason. I have a Tesla and I actually the super cruise might be better than autopilot in some ways. They both have their own advantages and disadvantages but to compare it to the fsd is ridiculous. Very misleading video regarding the costs and capabilities of the different systems. I've never used the super cruise but I like that u don't have to jiggle the wheel. Also u have to be very careful with autopilot and fsd if the lines on the road are worn off. I was very impressed with my autopilot this winter. I was messing with it and it actually worked really well even with snow blowing across the road. Obviously u wouldn't normally use cruise in those situations if u are smart but it was an interesting experiment to see how it reacted.
I usually really like TFL videos, but this one was quite biased and not like the TFL videos I am used to.
@@Alex.AL_26 lol I always kinda thought Tommy was just playing devil's advocate with his hate on for Tesla but this was quite a compromised video IMO
Yep exactly what I was thinking. Not a good honest review at all. He comes across as a 65 year old man that doesn't like new features because it scares him
yup. lol he literally compared a 6000 dollar price tag to a FREE price tag which is included in teslas. also, SC only works on certain highways ... AP and FSD work on literally any road which has markings. tesla won this battle before it even started.
I’m just really confused as to why you would use the base Tesla auto pilot feature compared to a $8000 driving system in a Cadillac and then say the Cadillacs is better. Why would you not try full self driving Tesla and then the $8000 Cadillac system. It seems to be an unfair comparison of technologies.
It's 2,500 upgrade not 8k. Only on certain lower trims is it 8k. It's also $2,500 In the new CT5 and CT4
Regardless of which Tesla system you compare it to, super cruise is far superior and safer.
@@SkinnySkinch Regardless of which Tesla system you compare it to, Tesla is far superior and safer.
@@saintcyberchaos265 simply not true. You’re a fanboy I can tell. I don’t care about either system so I can look at this objectively. Super cruise is a far superior system. Tesla literally relies on you touching the steering wheel. That’s it. That’s the safety. People have been seen sitting in back seat of Tesla’s beating the safety protocol and driving down highway at 80mph. Not possible with super cruise
They are fair comparisons though. They don't get better with more expensive models. Tesla uses cameras so it's not better than super cruise on the highway since Supercruise has the route mapped out as opposed to tesla which has cameras watching the road. Telsa autopilot is more versatile though. Since super cruise can't function in roads, park itself or drive to you. In my opinion though, tesla autopilot is a bit more advanced since you can use it in more areas.
@@SkinnySkinch Clearly you can't look objectively because it would require you to have a clue about both systems which you clearly don't. First off autopilot is STANDARD on every Tesla. Super Cruise is not standard. In fact, it is a $8,850 add on unless you buy a higher trim spec than the Premium Luxury in which case you are paying that anyway for the higher trim spec. The next point is usability. That is a $8,850 option you can only use ON SELECT ROUTES. Meanwhile we can use autopilot on literally any road. You clearly have no clue about what a Tesla will do regarding driver monitoring because it does NOT allow you to leave the seat. You have to trick the system by placing weights to simulate your body. Then you have to deal with the wheel nag which on all public roads and highways requires a light nudge to the wheel every 13 seconds. On interstates it is usually 30+ seconds. THEN you have an interior camera that is monitoring the driver. It works exactly the same as the Cadillacs does. The review is a complete sham because those of us who have driven both know what is what. Autopilot is absolutely MILES ahead. That isn't a debate. Autonomous driving is a game of data collection and extrapolation and nobody has the data that Tesla does. My car drives me almost 200 miles daily in mostly low light and all weather conditions. The Cadillac couldn't do that by nature of only being able to use select routes. He attempts to knock the camera based driver system as an insult but the comedy in that is Cadillac literally uses cameras as well. They both use sensors and cameras and network data of some kind (neural network for Tesla). Tesla's hardware within the vehicles is so far superior to literally anyone else it isn't even funny. GM wouldn't know how to put a proper hardware suite in their vehicles if it was handed to them on an AMD wrapped platter. I love having this debate with people because it is an easy win for Tesla. If we want to get really technical we can mention the fact that for a measly $200/month (or one time 10k) you can get FSD which in standard form will stop for traffic lights/signs, take you on ramp to off ramp, actively changes lanes and much more. In fact, I currently have the FSD Beta on my car which allows me to literally get in my car, set a destination and it takes me there. As of 2020 Tesla had 3 billion miles of autopilot data. Cadillac has 7 million lol. That isn't even a stones throw. Tesla has more autonomous data then literally every automotive company combined. None of these systems are perfect and all are learning but for the love of god people just sit down with the arguments that are backed by absolutely zero knowledge and is a regurgitated headline sponsored by legacy automakers. It doesn't make someone a fan boy because they stick up for the data. The data disagrees literally 100% with you sorry. Class dismissed.
This is nuts. It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes. Look at how much time he spends talking about Tesla’s requirement that you rest a hand on the wheel (a minor nuisance), and then look at how much time he spends talking about GM’s inability to function on most roads (a massive, show-stopping, deal breaking flaw). Autopilot will work on probably 98-99% of the roads I travel. Super Cruise will work on probably 1-2% of the roads I travel.
Couldn't agree more.
The wheel requirement is a minor and also easily bypassable nuisance. When i'm driving with Autopilot on a State Route or a not awfully windy backroad it's great. I don't care about the nag because my hand is always on the wheel on those roads. On highways I can bypass the nag by either putting my knee up against the wheel or you can attach a weight to the wheel. With SuperCruise 75% functionality is taken by only being able to use it on roads I rarely travel on, Interstates.
Tesla fanboy huh...
@@luisrosal1322 If GM allowed Super Cruise to be used on roads not named an Interstate then I would consider it better. So no I'm not a fanboy but Super Cruise simply isn't as useful.
Who wants to use auto pilot in other places but the interstate. If you’re on road that are more dense or lower speed you should be hands on wheel alert
@@trenton.tchannel1810 You should always have your hands on the wheel and be alert whenever using either of these systems. Cadillac just has an option to make sure you're paying attention via tracking head and eye movement vs a hold a wheel nag.
If I'm stuck behind a guy doing 45-60 in a 55mph state route, I want AP engaged with my hand on the wheel and eyes peeled. This way I don't have to worry about constantly braking and accelerating and I don't have to steer unless it's a very sharp corner. Also I'm a rather admittedly impatient driver and it's much less stressful to have the car handle most driving aspects when following behind someone. I typically don't use it when I don't have a car in front of me. However that's a fairly rare occurance on my route to work.
I own the new Escalade and Super Cruise is amazing. It is dissipating that it only works on interstates, but it functions very well even at night.
Hey I’m ordering my Escalade 22 this week I live a small town is the super cruise worth’s the extras add on ?
@@123space8 If you live in a small town, no, but if you travel in your car then yes.
@@lmcp5931 don’t travel to much thanks for the info
Do you mean disappointing?
Ultra cruise is coming which should add much more functionality
3:35 No, you just turned the wheel way to much, so the Tesla gave you back control. Please don't do like the old guy from Autoline TV! :)
It takes a little practice to get just the right amount of jiggle on the wheel without disengaging it. Not sure Tommy gave the autopilot a fair chance. Didn't seem like he knew how to use it properly.
Bruh quit being mad, because somebody doesn’t understand the system it lost aight chill
Haha I'm not mad. Lol just seems like if you are going to review something u should know how to use it. Would be like shitting into the tank on a toilet and then saying it's not a good toilet cuz it doesn't work right hahaha
@@ttamcc.4674 that's literally his job lol. And he failed at it. It's a horrible comparison
@@themeach011 It is disappointing sometimes, when these reviewers obviously don't get to know the product/feature/vehicle enough, then give reviews with misinformation. These guys are usually better then that.
3:35 He applies too much pressure to the wheel when the Tesla indicates he should apply "light" pressure, then declares "Yup, there you have it! If you don't apply pressure when it asks, it will disengage"...NO! You applied TOO MUCH PRESSURE! It wasn't when you applied the pressure, it was that you applied too much!
You also don't have to "keep your hands on the wheel" on the Tesla... I drive in auto drive all the time, hands free, not on the steering wheel and when asked to apply light pressure to the wheel, you can simply turn the left small knob on the steering wheel, and the message is dismissed.
A little research and Tommy would have discovered this option. Or, just give the steering wheel a gentle tug.
Again, not a big deal and I love their reviews, but spend maybe an hour with a car before offering your opinion and stating facts that are incorrect.
To be fair, you didn't test Tesla's "full self driving." In the conclusion you say Supercruise is more confidence inspiring than full self driving -- how do you know?
Probably because they've owned multiple Tesla's over years and are very familiar with the system...
I take it you don't watch this channel often?
@@OneManOnFire are you referring to Tommy's clear bias against Tesla? Cause ya it's really annoying
@@billdauterive246 you can think what you like lmao
@@ericmorgan372 Do you not remember some of the issues they had with their current Tesla?
Call me a Tesla fanboy but this was an unfair comparison. Supercruise is cool since you don't keep your hands on the wheel. But a Tesla with navigate on Autopilot is worlds better. On the highway it'll change lanes by itself to keep you in the fastest lane, no driver input required. And also the option to hit the blinker and change on your schedule. It'll also take freeway interchanges and exits without intervention. Of course that's all will your hands on the wheel. I can also engage Autopilot on a forest back road at midnight and I can't do that with supercruise
So you prefer the system that costs anywhere from $2500 - $6500 as an option over basic Autopilot at no cost? You deride the FSD option because it's $10k but then try to make a comparison to Super Cruise without testing it? Does the cost of that Super Cruise option include over the air updates to improve it? FSD is $10k because it future proofs your car and already allows your car to do much more than what Super Cruise does. All in all not an even comparison.
I also notice there was no mention of price for either vehicle with the options tested. A fully loaded Model Y LR AWD with FSD is $64k. How much was that Caddy with the Super Cruise? Looks like it would be about $90K?
No vehicle is future proof. Technically is always evolving.
@@SkippyPB. The Tesla will be evolving with free over the air updates.
@@SkippyPB. The software updates. Obviously, if the hardware needs changing, that won't be free. Unlike other manufacturers, there is an option to update some hardware in the car for a fee once it becomes outdated.
@@ymcpa73 the Tesla has what it needs to be relevant with full self driving hardware built into every car. I'm not sure what the next hardware update would need to be when the car already has what it needs to achieve the final goal of fsd. Just my thought. I know that there is always improvements in things but once the goal is achieved and the vehicle can do what it's supposed to it shouldn't need anything added to it. New generations may have subtle improvements but the old ones will still work with what they have. Just my two cents
Those cars behind you gotta be getting a little salty with your lane changes in the Escalade. 😂
Will this guy make up his mind already.
They're probably just surprised to see an Escalade using a blinker.
Not a good review imo. First off the Tesla did not "zigzag" or "get confused" like he said at 2:57. It just went to the middle of the lane like it was supposed to. Also he made it seem like Supercruise is cheaper than Autopilot which couldn't be further from the truth. Autopilot is FREE and it's included with all Teslas. Full self driving is $10k but that's because it includes the promise of added features in the future. Enhanced Autopilot is an option that is sometimes available (last year it was available for $4000) and it includes all the features of FSD but without new upcoming features. He didn't talk much about the features of enhanced Autopilot which include Navigate on Autopilot, Autopark, and smart summon. Navigate on Autopilot is available on freeways and highways and it will make lane changes to pass slower vehicles(or get over to let faster vehicles pass), and it will get off at the correct interchange or exit, all without any manual input except to confirm that you're still paying attention. He made a really big deal about Supercruise making the lane change but he still had to use the turn signal and turn it off, like how is that useful?? At that point I might as well change lanes myself. I also think it's a pretty big deal that Autopilot works pretty much anywhere. I do a lot of driving on really long country roads with hardly any traffic. Autopilot makes it so much easier and I guarantee Supercruise wouldn't be available there. It's frustrating to see his bias against Tesla every time
But can you drive hands off?
@@kamilb8232 The hands off thing is not that big of a deal, certainly not as important as he was trying to make it. It's just a safety requirement. In the future Tesla will likey utilize the cabin camera to make sure drivers are paying attention. And anyway, all you have to do is keep your hand resting on the bottom of the steering wheel. It's easy and comfortable, not at all like he was trying to make it seem
@@ericmorgan372 Your bias isn't showing at all. "hAnDs oFf iSn't tHaT bIg oF a dEaL" as all car manufacturers are racing for it and it's what higher level SAE autonomous requires.
@@kamilb8232 lmao keep thinking what you like
@@ericmorgan372 Same to you bud.
First, big fan and love your channel.
You compared Super Cruse to Auto Pilot but imho a better comparison would be SC to Enhanced AP. Enhances AP gives you all of the features Tesla’s AP has minus traffic light & stop sign control and navigation on city streets. This $4000 update has a nearly identical feature set and average price point with SC.
Where EAP really shines is “on ramp to off ramp” navigation with auto lane changing. That makes long trips super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I know you guys try not to be bias against Tesla but I think you missed the mark this time. Not trying to be mean or anything. My 2 cents.
Yep I thought it was definitely biased towards supercruise. He really doesn't like tesla
I was thinking the same. I've driven Tesla FSD and I've driven a vehicle with Supercruise and to me it seemed like Tesla had the far superior system. Just so convenient to use and capable on pretty much any road with painted lines. I have a hard time seeing how anyone else who has driven both could feel like SC was better overall?
@@ericmorgan372 After that previous video this kid made about Tesla (with the fake arguing), i don't know how he thinks he is still credible. I'm sure SuperCruise is a pretty great though, albeit a bit more limited
EAP hasn't been available as an option for awhile.
A perfectly forward-facing and alert driver is allowed to take their hands off the steering wheel and the car drives itself.
If that person then falls asleep, the vehicle shuts off all of the drivers assistance, which is actually the only time a driver would ever NEED to be assisted behind the wheel.
And this deserves praise? I swear the entire world has gone insane.
Seriously. You fall asleep in the Tesla and it pulls over for you safely and turns on the hazards. You fall asleep in the Caddy and it just assumes you want to die in a fiery car crash and turns everything off on the highway for you lol. But sure, it's more "confidence inspiring"
@@JDMerica in the video all I saw was him take his hands off and then it turns the system off.
I thought it seemed pretty silly.
lol i thought the same thing. It's either going to let you drive hands-off...or kill you.
I must say I'm pretty disappointed in the level of effort put into this video. You don't really challenge the systems at all (go on some curvier highways, construction zones, high traffic scenarios, etc.). I'm assuming you guys don't have the FSD package because you didn't test Navigate on Autopilot at all. It actually looks like this is your first time using Super Cruise, so how can you say which is better?
I've been using Autopilot for years now, and while it's not perfect and it can seem twitchy, it's very capable in challenging situations. It's 2021, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that you can have a system like super cruise that does lane centering, and adaptive cruise pretty well.
Hey TFL, thanks for this please do more content where you include a review of the driver assist features in cars. This is a huge part of modern cars and not all are equally good. More!
Supercruise works on 5% of roads. Autopilot works on 95% of roads.
Driver In Cadillac: *looks away for a bit*
Cadillac: "You have chosen death."
The dog looks scared. ;-)
So if you drive mostly on the highway Cadillac's system is better. If you spend anytime on 2 lane rural roads then Tesla's system is better...because it actually functions on all roads.
Exactly, I highly doubt many people spend most of their time driving on major highways, which is why Tesla's system is better.
Tesla auto is a death trap
@@Alex.AL_26 What's a "major" highway? Freeways are major highways, considering that Supercruise works on ver 200K miles of highway. Besides, as Tommy stated, how can you trust it completely when there are so many variables, like right turners, pedestrians, motorcyclists and etc. The camera system clearly has trouble making decisions when the conditions suddenly vary. I would like to have a sure-footed system for those freeway miles weather on my way to and from the suburbs or on long vacation drives with my family.
@@ronlheureux7623 Even though Tesla's autopilot is not perfect, I would prefer to have a system that I can use everyday instead of a system than I can use maybe once a year.
@@Alex.AL_26 by the Tesla can’t stop for red lights and stop signs so how would that be better 😂
One works anywhere while the other is “geofenced” into locations it can identify. The Cadillac is like grandma, she can drive places and make turns as long as can see the landmarks she recognizes.
Poor analogy. The Cadillac is more like a trucker that knows his route and does it professionally, while the Tesla is more like an eager teenager who just got their license and will drive anywhere without knowing what they're getting into.
@@cup_and_cone Don't anger the Tesla fan boys :)
@@blang38 Oh I don't have FSD or the Supercruise, I just enjoy learning about technology! One says "I know this place, lets stay here and enjoy, while the other says "this place looks interesting, lets explore it"
@@cup_and_cone You evidently do not own a Tesla, otherwise you would understand. So, you really do not have a horse in this race...
Tesla's system is more impressive. Cannot compare Auto-Pilot with SuperCruise, rather must compare FSD since that is the comparable level. Fully available FSD works on highway as well or better than Super Cruise, and will work at some primitive level anywhere, but not well enough to trust yet. FSD beta, which v9.0 of will be released likely by May, can and does drive cars almost anywhere w/o interventions. Does still require steering wheel touch, but that is required by regulators, not system capability. Super Cruise uses the look at eyes system, a newer gen of tech, that admittedly is better than having to tough steering wheel, but both are temporary solutions that will go away, once regulators allow true autonomy. FSD is close to being able to do on its own. and according to Tesla, with 2000 drivers using the system for approaching 100 million miles of driving, no accidents. Today FSD (Beta version) is likely around 50 Percentile against human drivers, e.g. drives better than 50% of human drivers. Within a year or so, likely to be at 80% point. Anything above 50% point will lower accidents and deaths against human drivers, but want 99.9 percentile before letting no drivers, one assumes.
Consumer Reports also disagrees with you.
@@normt430 Consumer Reports is a joke
I have FSD on my Y and the only thing the Cadillac has that mine does not is that the camera can keep track of your eyes to determine that you’re paying attention vs the Tesla currently requiring you to “hold” the wheel. I understand the camera in the Y will be used for the same functionality once the FSD beta is in wider release (I am frustrated that it’s not out yet considering I paid for it last August). To be clear, with FSD you can navigate to an address and it will change lanes and exit a highway (when navigate on autopilot turns off) - it also does a better job of avoiding the “wiggle” when an on or off ramp comes up. I think you should really redo the test with an FSD-equipped Tesla to get a better comparison. I think the one real advantage Super Cruise has right now is the camera. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem any better to me and is limited to only certain pre-mapped roads. It will be interesting to see when the full FSD beta finally gets released to those of us who already paid for it. I can honestly say that the delay after being promised that it would just be “a few months” or “by the end of the year” or “the 4th quarter” is really my biggest complaint. The existing FSD functionality is actually great (although the stopping at green lights without an override and the stopping for marked signals that are off, such as crosswalks and school zones needs to be improved) and I use it every day. It will be interesting to see what Rivian offers when they finally actually start delivering their vehicles.
lol put ankle weight on the wheel at 2 or 11 oclock positions and it drives forever btw
If Rivian don’t go bankrupt first…
Its become very clear to me the Cadillac paid off Doug and now you guys to make this comparison that barely scratches the surface of these two systems.
what I'm thinking. Like saying autopilot uses cameras, it uses barely any of the cameras and its not doing a hell of lot at that.. Navigate on Autopilot uses all the cameras and totally drivers differently than autopilot. 9000 miles of self driving under autopilot / navigate on auto and ill go with a system that isn't faking it to make it with a geo fenced solution.
Tesla is building with vision with the idea of adapting to its surrounding. Cadillac is building with geo with the idea of the world adapting around it. This makes handling things like lane closures, construction zones, and outdated maps a very serious problem. This video is obviously biased but I think geo based autonomy is incredibly dangerous and should be a serious cause for concern...
Tesla's basic autopilot is free. Gotta pay for it in Cadillac. You can use autopilot anywhere, not so with Cadillac. You PROVED that you can look away and Super Cruise was still on which makes it unsafe for many people. All of this stuff about confidence one way or another is just mostly your personal bias against Tesla. On highways, the system is rock solid. The worst thing about Super Cruise is your get a Cadillac with it. Who actually is buying that car? lol
Alert Alert Alert...Angry Tesla Fan boy comment. How dare you say something remotely negative.
@@blang38 Test drive both and judge for yourself. Don't listen to pseudo-journalist hacks.
@@blang38 Lol. Tommy clearly hates Tesla so there's no point watching this video because the outcome is already determined
You compared the free/included autopilot feature against the super cruise which cost a couple thousand to add. Why don’t you do the comparison with FSD and Super Cruise to get an actual value for what you pay for.
Because full self driving isn’t even out yet? Your comment was from 8 months ago, when it was definitely wasn’t out yet.
Also FSD is a 10k upgrade.
A better comparison would have been with Tesla's Enhanced AutoPilot aka EAP (not FSD ($10k) & not plain AutoPilot(No charge) ) vs the Cadillac Super Cruise system. EAP includes highway lane changes (with or without driver indicator input) and Navigate on AutoPilot, which performs merging on on-ramps and exiting on off-ramps autonomously. EAP will also make lane change maneuvers automatically to put you in the best traffic flow based upon navi real-time traffic data and shift you over prior to approaching your exit. You can go for hours in any of these Tesla systems (AP, EAP or FSD) without it turning off just by resting your hands on the bottom of the steering wheel, which is where they want to naturally land anyway.
And to make the comparison even more fair, perform the tests on a stretch of highway which GM has not yet mapped out yet in their hyper-accurate Navi data maps.
Hey Tommy, comparing AutoPilot with SuperCruise doesn't make any sense. AP is free and included with any Tesla, SC is an expensive option. Besides, AP is a fancy cruise control that can stay in the lane, and nothing more than that. It's only useful if you need a few seconds to drink water or smthg while you drive on the highway. Now, FSD is a completely different kind of software, there is no connection between AP ans FSD. AP is not a preview for FSD, it never was. So your conclusion that SC is better than FSD is based on a premise that FSD will make you keep your hands on the wheel? Haven't you seen the videos previewing the FSD Beta? There is no such requirement for FSD. I hope this was nothing more than your April fool's joke. In this case, good one, Tommy.
Tesla Autopilot is free and works on all streets. Cadillac is not working on enough roads. Hands on wheel is a safety thing and should not be a differencemaker when talking about what is best. . There is only 1 winner; Tesla.
How do you know what Cadillac is working on? Do you have access to research and development? I can tell you for a fact that they are working on street level driving but that doesn't mean they have to tell you everything.
@@TheEmissary101 But they did 😉
I stand corrected who am I to dispute such an authority 🤔
Apparently TFL did not spring for FSD on the Tesla. Autopilot is a standard, $0 feature, where the Super Cruise is up to $6k. Not having FSD didn't allow a demo of connecting navigation to autopilot. Very useful for complicated major city freeway transitions especially when teamed with automatic lane changes. I used this myself the other day to get to a vaccination site across town that required transitioning between 4 different freeways and dealing with rush hour. Can't wait for the City Streets beta that will come out this month.
So you compare the free tesla version to the paid Cadillac version????
Still inferior to Supercruise because Tesla does not make a version where it is completely hands-free.
@@hellkitty1014 Yeah. I'd much rather have my hand on the wheel, just in case. Besides, what's the issue with that? What else do you need these hands for?
Next time try switching places with Blaze to see if the system disengages 🤔
Lol
This didn't age well
As someone who lives in South Dakota, looking at the super cruise coverage map, with the few amount of roads that the system can even be used on, super cruise is almost useless. It could only be useful for me a few times of the year when doing long road trips. 200,000 miles of premapped roads might seem like a lot, but it is only a single digit percentage of what Tesla’s system can do. I can use autopilot on our Tesla everyday, and it comes standard. I can activate it pretty much whenever/wherever I want, rest my hand on the side of the steering wheel, and forget about it.
Not a lot of differences between autopilot and FSD on the freeway??? With FSD, it's pretty much on ramp to off ramp (hands still on the wheel) but it will automatically go around slow cars, navigate you to correct lanes for freeway changes and take interchanges. That's a huge different compared to standard autopilots lane keeping and adaptive cruise only.
I made a device that I put on the steering wheel and it mimics a hand resting on the wheels. It is VERY useful
@@couchpotatoes5158 Lol it's called "water bottle". I used to stick one there at the beginning but honestly eventually I got used to resting my hand on the wheel while watching movies so I don't even stick a water bottle on the wheel anymore. I love road trips now, I get to catch up on my Netflix shows. Tesla rules!
@@KristianAlekov dude you are putting yourself and others in danger. I use autopilot myself and I love it but it is still not fool proof. So be careful
I think turning off super cruise while you aren’t looking sounds MORE dangerous. It should have some type of function to pull you over out of traffic.
Or make noises since you'd think this would happen when you fall asleep on a road trip highway drive.. confused me as well, but I want to like it because hate teslas look
@@hudsanity_1590 Tesla auto pilot is just as bad. If you aren’t touching that wheel it will shut off but also sometime it randomly shuts off. I had a long term rental and if you go over a bridge at highway speeds and there is a bump auto pilot will just shut off.
My 2015 P90D with AP1 does all of those things. The only reason we have to touch the wheel is regulation that's changing. I just rest my knee on it and let it drive me down the freeway hands free.
FSD is beyond super cruise and will change lanes on its own basically driving you from A to B.
Would you feel better if Tesla charged $10k more for the car and gave FSD for free? Because with a $100k Cadillac you seem to think there's value in including it in the price.
They really need to get a real Tesla.
My Model 3 Performance was in the Mid $60K range with FSD and I think that it is a pretty high end luxury car for everything you get. I can't imagine paying $100k for a GM vehicle.
I can rest my knee in any car, what you talking about.
@@NoNegotiations With Tesla and the current laws restricting their hands free, the wheel has to feel resistance for it to keep driving autonomously. If you lean your knee against the bottom you can drive hands free. Driving for hours hands free is very relaxing and allows you to eat or drink etc while the car does the work.
My 2015 will change lanes with a blinker push while 6 years later GM now has that feature. The newer Tesla can drive from A to B with little driver interacting.
@@TheAndrwwJohnson Super cruise makes it hands free, why hasn't Tesla done it? What you talking about laws when GM has done hands free.
Super cruise is great on the marked highways but is becomes completely useless on any 2 lane rural roads. Most of my commute involves driving around 60 MPH on rural roads so Tesla's autopilot is the clear winner
SuperCruise just launched take that into account... Tesla has years of development so you can’t really compare.
@@DJKiDDKlashez That is true maybe Supercruise will be better in a few years but right now Tesla's Autopilot is better and this video is talking about the system right now not what the system will be like in the future.
Wow, I don’t want to be rude, but you have no idea how Tesla FSD work. Which I rely on every day and have used for long distance and local commute.
Man I wanna live there. Going the speed limit of 65 and nobody is trying to run you off the road. Speed limit here is 55 and I have to do 75 to avoid constant maniacs and even then they still fly up, almost crash into the back of you and fly in the other lane and then fly in front of you and continue to do 100mph
You can't control other drivers, only yourself.
55 MPH? Geez, I pity you... Getting anywhere must take ridiculous time. We have 85 MPH here, and even that is usually ignored, because it feels slow on such nice roads.
@@wojciechmuras553 Yeah the most we have in the state is 65 but it’s mainly 55 and cops all over the place ( Not so much anymore ) but honestly since the pandemic has been only time can really go above 30 on the highway cuz was always backed up. Traffic is slowly going back to how it was which the people going 100mph gonna be shit out luck
Atlanta? Because that's the worst place I've ever driven. Can't drive 2 miles without some asshole in a charger or Challenger weaving all over the place at 110mph
Do you live in Virginia? Sounds like VA to me.
So the Tesla has auto lane change, either it will change lanes by itself to pass slower traffic, get out of the passing lane or to maintain its programmed route. It will also allow you to initiate a lane change by activating the turn signal,, but then it turns the signal off when complete,, no more interaction required after unnitiation. Caddy has semi-auto lane change, i.e. activate the turn signal to initiate lane change and deactivate when complete.
Tesla wins hands down.
But you have to put hand on steering wheel every 30 sec.
@@maoss40 20s not 30s and it seems to be different at different speeds and environment. You can place a finger against the wheel or just flip a scroll wheel when it starts flashing, otherwise look around and enjoy the scenery. SC not so much, it's more a babysitter than AP.
The Kia Telluride on the other hand is a good 2min before you have to touch the steering wheel and it a lot smoother in turns.
@@maoss40 so just because of that one thing you feel cruise is better?how doom you are
@@paulerhimona9244 why would I use the auto pilot in the city how lazy are you guys. Atleast the Cadillac system makes more sense
Cadillac has the same auto lane change system like the tesla quit being bias
A good comparison would actually be full self driving beta versus super cruise but then it really wouldn’t be a comparison at all lol
You’re a tesla fan boy aren’t you?
beta is not mass production ready, supercruise is. A lot of companies have beta, the game changer is when DOT approves it for mass production.
@@KingKola01 Oh, the Supercruise that's installed in like 5 Cadillacs is a mass market product, while FSD which is in millions of Teslas isn't? Yeah, sure... (Yes, I'm aware that complete Beta build is currently only available to a limited number of US customers. Still, it's orders of magnitude more than Supercruise.)
@@tahariaz241 what that has to do with this comment
@@KingKola01 Supercruise only works on highways. FSD with AP1 and limited beta FSD work on both cities and highways I navigated the mountain pass from Los Angeles to Solvang right after Oxnard. Which is not possible with Supercruise.
I think a better comparison is Tesla Enhanced Autopilot or Tesla FSD versus Cadillac Supercruise. TESLA Autopilot is Tesla bare bone system. But I guess you guys know that by now 🙈. Also cost of autopilot vs Supercruise?
Also in would rather have my hands on the steering wheel ready to make correction and quicker reaction time rather than having my hands off the steering and just looking at the road ahead.
Let’s see Super Cruise work on side streets and read and react to stop signs and stop lights! Oh that’s right. IT CANT!
We have a 2021 Escalade Premium Luxury Platinum 4x4 and love it! Did not opt for the Super Cruise option though. The adaptive cruise really does work well. Would be nice if you could get a little closer to the car in front but i reckon they have to conservative with those things.... Thanks for a great review Tommy!
I have a ‘17 escalade platinum........so are those trims now together because they were separate trims before?🤔
I have a 2021 esv premium luxury 2wd. I wouldn't have gotten super cruise anyway because it wasn't an option for when it went on sale in 2020. Was supposed to come out as an option in the spring or so the salesman told me.
I am guessing they are being cautious considering the weight and thus stopping distance of the Escalade
@@NateDawg0007 no a bigger and heavier vehicle means bigger and heavier duty brakes. The brakes on my and 78beeper's escalade are big as hell. I literally wanted to swap them for smaller comfier rims like 17 or 18" to make the ride less harsh and the discs are huge 18" rotors. Probably can only get 20" or maybe 19" but those are a pain. they're a lot bigger than the chevy and GMC brakes and those have zero reported issues with braking distance anyway and that's considering they can weigh a lot more if configured larger too. This thing can stop hard no doubt.
Tesla allows you to select the car space between you and the car in front, 1 Car, 2 Cars, 3 Cars, etc...
Not really a good comparison. Please buy and use Tesla FSD on regular streets and highways. You are simply discounting what FSD it can do for driving experience without even using it.
Yup, I like the idea of paying Tesla an additional 10 grand for automatic lane changing. You doubters might want wand to consider that Caddy (GM) will be updating their mapping and the tech, as well. If you wand to update the current available tech, it’s $2,500 to $6,000.
Every electric car make can do over the air updates, like Tesla does.
a bit of misinformation here. With the purchase of FSD, you'll get navigation with autopilot. That's a total hands off experience from point to point, the beta program if you're in it will do hands off on all roads.
The current implementation of FSD and the Beta still require hands on the wheel, but they do add a lot of useful features.
If you are driving in the right lane, does Supercruise avoid cars that are merging from your right? Tesla's current version software does - it slows down as needed to give them a spot to merge into.
How about road changes? If the lane ahead is coned off for repairs or an accident, Tesla's software moves over on its own. How about another longer test of Supercruise on the highway to see how it handles these fairly common traffic events.
Agreed
Amen! Just took a trip in a Tesla, it recognized and hit the brakes for a van turning off slowly and i ran autopilot thru a daily changing construction zone. That Teslas was doing some thinking!
Does Super Cruise handle sharp turn? Cause Tesla could. Does Super Cruise auto merge into off ramp into another highway? Tesla could.
@@aptwo916 Yeah but that's not really worth $10k (now $15k). To save $11k I think I can merge on my own.
@@DisloyalOrder3 That's the beginning lol. It will be good enough to full autonomous.
How much did you get paid from GM. And opening the video with "Independent & Honest" is just an audacious joke. It seems you need to point that out in the attempt to obfuscate your evident bias.....
Isn’t super cruise only available on streets that GM has already mapped? Which makes Tesla’s autopilot and FSD better since u can use it where super cruise is unavailable
I'm certain he was referring to which is more superior while active.
Why will you use a Tesla that does not have FSD to do a comparison.
This was a quick comparison with the cars that were available to them. In the future we probably will get a comparison with a fully equipped Tesla.
@@Roderickdl then don't do it until you can compare fairly
12:50 how can you say it's better than FSD when you didn't even use it?
The driver in me still isn't too keen on self-driving cars, but the techie in me is intrigued and amazed that technology like Super Cruise is present and usable. And the cynic in me thinks that no automaker should proclaim to have "full/total/true/etc" self driving until you can get in the backseat and have the car drive for you.
Go and take a Tesla for a test drive. I have three engineering degrees and absolutely love the Autopilot in my Model Y. I paid for the FSD and looking forward to being include in a future Beta. Oh, and yes I have my Starlink, running a latency between 24ms and 31ms, occasionally a little higher , but in that ballpark. Download Speed are between 232.52Mb and 309.52Mb with uploads around 24.50 Mb.
Been interested in this comparison. Thanks TFL!
Tesla FSD Beta also recognizes (and stops and goes for) stop lights, stop signs, pedestrians, construction zones, bad weather and more. You don’t have to keep your hands on the wheel, and the interval for touching the wheel is based on an algorithm- it’s not always 30 seconds, sometimes it’s minutes. They’re both good, but I think you sold Tesla a little short.
So, SC drives a little more confidently but only on a narrow subset of roads but the Tesla requires more supervision but works virtually anywhere. I have a Model Y with FSD and the Tesla will automatically lane change around slower traffic and navigate through freeway interchanges and take exits - all things not shown here. Also, I find it very comfortable to rest my hand on the steering wheel which provides the right amount of torque to let the system know I'm still alive. I've driven literally hours this way. Finally, I find many non highway roads where it comes in handy, especially in any kind of stop and go traffic. Its kind of disingenuous to suggest that its unsafe to use on anything other than a highway.
Watching tommy is like watching my toilet flush. A shitty experience
Navigating a highway safely is no small feat. Kiddos to both companies for their respective achievements. I'm curious which handles accident avoidance better. Aggressive drivers changing lanes, sudden stops, etc.
If lawyers and sensational media wasn't a thing every car would be self driving on the highway. The highway is relatively easy to automate. Autopilot is near perfect. It's different than the other softwares. We already know autopilot data shows it's more safe than a human. At the very least every car should be able to stay in between the lines without your hands on the wheel, but again lawyers and execs are stupid. They don't understand people buy Tesla not because of the battery, but because of the software. All these companies are investing in the ev side, but virtually no money on software.
6:39 You look very relaxed, sarcastic.
Tommy, despite you could not engage super cruise control before you were on the highway and you couldn't make it go off ramp and it costs up to $6000 and it requires a subscription and it only works on 5% of all american roads it is the clear winner against the free system that comes with the Tesla that could have been engaged on the on ramp and is working on most roads and is getting better every day and will improve drastically when the new beta is released (because FSD and ACC is using the same code with some disabled features.)
Sad to see someone being so focused on disliking Tesla and trying to make it look bad against any car you compare it to, even a Hydrogen car that you cannot fill up anywhere close is better than a Tesla.
I must say: Tommy, you are the fool!
How do the systems handle road construction and temporary lane shifts?
I know that GM super cruise deactivates in a known construction area. It only works in approved areas.
Tesla FSD feels very confident to me. Lane closure, road work, road hazards, actual automatic lane changes, automatic highway changes, speed limit changes! Tesla’s autopilot is where it’s at. And when auto city driving come out!! Hands down most advanced system.
This video isn't going to age well. In just the next 3 months or so the new FSD Beta would become available to more people and it would be apparent (again) that GM/Ford/etc are 5 years (if not more) behind Tesla.
How about Tesla release the ACTUAL FSD people have paid $10k for instead of just "beta"? GM Supercruise is an official release, not still in "beta testing" for the next 5 years.
@@stephenj4937 first, most people have paid much less than $10,000. I paid only $4000 a few years ago. Secondly, the included autopilot (ie free) does more than the Cadillac $6000. It can drive on any road whereas Cadillac $6000 can only drive on less than 10% of highways - not to mention surface streets. Finally, we already get value out of the FSD features like traffic light stop and go, summon etc, and with FSD coming very soon, it will exceed any other system on the market by far.
Yet GM has had Supercruise for 3 years now. Exactly how are they behind?(this is version 2.0 BTW, with even more updates coming up).
@@hellkitty1014 version 2 and still only works in less than 10 percent of highways and can’t do surface streets at all. It also costs $6000 with an expensive car like a Cadillac whereas autopilot is included with every Tesla, works on all highways, surface streets, detects traffic signs and traffic lights and can transition across highways with navigate on autopilot.
@@ranig2848 between the ping ponging of the lanes and keeping of hands on the wheel of the Tesla, its not as impressive. Just my opinion.
Florida drivers where sunglasses most often when driving . How can Super Cruise see a drivers eyes in reflective and polarizing sunglasses? Not wearing protective eyeglasses when driving is inherently dangerous.
I thought of that too. They must have thought of that. I wear my sunglasses basically all the time. I wonder if anyone knows if it would work with them on or not?
@@themeach011 yes it works with sun glasses even polarized Costa’s
@@chassdesk sweet. I like that driver monitor system better than the wheel jiggle personally although I haven't actually used the super cruise before
@@themeach011 it works great we have done 30k miles, especially for long road trips.
@@chassdesk I'm using my autopilot right now lol. I love it as well. I did not opt for the FSD though. I felt this was good enough for my needs.
My preference is still with Tesla. My 6 year old Tesla can keep it in the lane and change lanes for me on State and County roads, which is 95% of my driving. Newer Teslas are better than my older one. But Supercruise is still a big improvement over basic cruise control.
I agree. SC would be next to useless for me because I avoid highways whenever possible. Tesla's Autopilot works beautifully on two lane country roads. The only thing you have to be aware of are some limitations. For example, if someone in the opposing lane cuts across your lane to make a left turn and they are doing it with plenty of room to spare, AP panics and stands on the brakes even though YOU know the car will be out of your lane well before you reach that point.
I have to drive around alot of farmland and the tesla is heavenly in that case.
same, Tesla is the best in rural areas, not to mention I don't want to take the chance driving a GM vehicle in the middle of nowhere and leaving me stranded when it breaks down.
Having to flick the turn signal off after AUTOMATED lane change is pretty wild indeed!
Probably so it knows to stop changing when you're on a 3+ lane
I don't have to flick off my Model Y's turn signal after an automatic lane change.
@@michaelholliday100 but then you have to turn it back on to keep changing lanes
And if you set the model Y to auto Lane change it will just do it whenever it wants to with no user intervention.
@@zz-hj9zi Go buy a Tesla if you can afford to do so, then you perhaps may understand better...
Your ads are long and uninteresting
The one advantage SC has is the hands off ability and Tesla should be 100% prioritize using the internal camera to do the same. I'd even pay money for it as an extra feature as I'm guessing patent licensing costs are part of the problem? Needing to manually turn on/off your blinker to change lanes makes it a pretty useless feature and to me is harder than actually doing it myself. In a Tesla with FSD you can set it to the same way but it's quickly obvious you need to just turn it off and let the car change lanes by itself. Finally SC is useless for most people because they will turn it off on roads under construction. For most commuter routes these roads are under constant construction and so it can never be used. Tesla navigates construction no problem.
in a few updates then internal camera will be used. fsd beta has booted some people off because they weren't paying attention, so its the NN training that will make it to the public release soon. Can't wait!
@@rickkay9548 Yeah, that's good, although I do believe that must be clearly stated in the EULA, and agreed on by the user. Tesla just engaging the internal camera on unsuspecting FSD Betatesters might've been unlawful, even if a good thing for safety.
@@wojciechmuras553 Thats exactly what happens. its also opt-in on the non-fsd-beta (Its disabled unless you enable it) and fsd beta docs say all cameras will be in use for ML use before accepting the invite.
@@rickkay9548 Good, didn't know that. I'm only getting my Model S next year, when lease on my Nissan Leaf ends.
@@wojciechmuras553 Cool! You will love it. Thats my dream car
When Tesla wanted you to put hands on the wheel and apply light force not a jerky motion which is why it disengaged. Normally it wouldn't have if you did it right.
"You're holding it wrong" - Steve Jobs
So you’re telling me you’re expected to buy a
I own a Model Y, go test drive a Tesla on 2 lane roads and major highways, you will see where it shines over the Super Cruise...
This comparison is completely wrong. Super Cruise does exactly what what AP1 could do in 2015. Then people started doing stupid things and Tesla drastically lowered the time you have to touch the wheel. AP2 is much much more, you didn’t even mentioned Nav on AP
That gm is a contender... Frightens me.
Maybe because I used to work for gm.
Comma AI is better than super cruise according to Consumer Reports and mine cost 1,200 with the harness. It woks very well with Honda, Toyota, and Hyundai vehicles and you can drive hands off for hours just like the Caddy. It changes lanes but you do need to start turning the wheel a little to initiate the change. I am moving from a Sonata to a Pacfica Hybrid so we will see how it does with that car soon.
Let’s be clear. TheCaddy system did not work when you looked sideways or looked down. It only worked when you covered it with your finger. You made light of this important failure. Try to be objective though I’m sure Caddy appreciates your over sight.
This is silly. To do a real comparison test, you would need to do a lot of hours on a variety of roads in a variety of conditions.
I don't think that comparison is even possible Super Cruise won't function on a variety of roads.
@@Zobeid Well, so, that would be in the results.
I don’t think they want to die driving the Tesla hands free.
@@jackylsmith8138 Both systems require paying attention.
Will super cruze recognize sunglasses?
Ya... can the Super Cruise attention monitoring camera see thru polarized sunglasses? If not, it’s pointless.
@@ArtIrwin well my iPhone won’t unlock if I have my sunglasses on which I find very annoying so I was wondering? And hey did verify it ?
No you need vampire assist. It cost $666 a month
So disappointed,these is childish,am unsubscribing,how will you use a Tesla without FSD,You could not even show us all the moves that Tesla FSD can do.
Forget the auto pilot, I’d rather be in a Cadi over Tesla any time of the day!
Anyone that isn't American would never wanna be in a Cadillac, there's a reason they don't sell outside outside america
Have you driven in FSD?
They don’t have it, they were too cheap to buy it. Would have paid for itself if they were part of FSD beta like many other youtubers
@@McMooo587 I understand why they would not though. Usually they keep their vehicles just a year and the system isn't fully ready anyways.
Plus, what's the fun in watching that?
The main passenger - the dog called Blaze was enjoying lots of space in Cadillac and was showing his happy face with the tongue out. Those were the funniest moments of the video.
this must be a sponsor video by GM
Any video you Tesla shills dont like you cry that it's sponsored.
Cadillac is using a computer program to control SuperCruise which is why it’s so limited in the roads it can use. Tesla FSD is using artificial intelligence and every Tesla on the road is providing data that enables the system to learn. As time goes on Tesla’s system just gets better and better. As time goes on Cadillac will be left behind.
Really? So you don't think GM will keep updating its mapping system in SuperCruise as time goes on and send that info to its cars?
@@mamadouaziza2536 no doubt they will update but no way can they update by programming SuperCruise near as fast with the detail that Artificial Intelligence can provide. Everyday Tesla gets more and more data.
Do dark sunglasses affect either system?
tesla doesn't since it doesnt use optics yet. Super cruise uses infrared i believe so most glasses wont matter. Eventually the Tesla will be completely hands free within a few software updates
@@rickkay9548 Tesla can't go completely hands free because DOT currently requires hands or optic, software update can't give tesla the hardware. It will have to be built in their future cars.
@@KingKola01 WRONG. Every Model 3 and model Y ever built, and all new Model S/X already have the hardware built in, and software is already under development to enable it. The camera behind the rearview mirror uses AI to tell where the person is looking, as well as wether or not they are using their cell phone. The next sw release will enable the feature. I don't think SuperCruise or other systems track cell phone use. Also DOT doesn't handle this driver safety technology governance, its their NHTSA arm (DOT is just their oversight body).
You can check out the cars face tracking technology here insideevs.com/news/499611/tesla-cabin-camera-analyses-you/
@@rickkay9548 that's not the same camera needed for FSD. It's a low resolution camera intended to monitor seconds before a crash, it doesn't have infared to track the eyes, it's not center around the drive but rather placed at the height of a rear view mirror. Teslas definitely don't have the hardware yet. Even it's beta "FSD" isn't even full driving, it's triggered warnings from NHTSA because of it's confusing customers. FDS beta isn't working as promised yet, then hands off driving definitely won't happen within the next 1 year with Tesla.
@@KingKola01 Read the link I attached and please research before posting again. The cameras resolution is more than high enough to do facial tracking and literally already is being used for that in the FSD BETA. People in the beta have already been kicked out of the program for not paying attention or for using cell phones. How do you think they got caught? Thats what you call CHECK MATE.
The cameras are also going to be used for robo taxi cabin security. Currently they are only used for crash recording, but you are 100% wrong on every level imaginable that they will need a hardware upgrade. Infrared is not needed since the cameras have very capable low-light performance for night time use. ir would be great, but pointless for eye tracking. The link I sent will literally clear your massive confusion up immediately. If you don't understand how it works, thats ok, most lay people have no clue, but continually pretending to makes you look silly. Dont bring crayons to an engineering discussion.
After using Tesla AP/FSD for almost 3 years it is very competent on city streets and stop and go traffic. It avoids pedestrians, bikes, etc. Once engaged on a road with at least one lane line it will operate correctly on the road even if the road becomes unmarked. Oncoming cars are passed satisfactorily. This is not yet the latest Tesla FSD beta which is much more advanced and about to be released to FSD purchasers soon. If you disregard Tesla "nags", it does not disconnect. After 3 audible warnings it comes to a stop on the road with emergency flashers on assuming you've died. Do more homework on your Tesla reviews.
So navigate on autopilot will do automatic lane changes and navigation on ramp to off ramp. Using that would have been a better comparison against a $6000 system.
I agree pin it against EAP. They have the same features at that point.
Do any of the modern systems like these in the video recognize emergency vehicles?; Such as vehicles coming up behind you, coming from the side? Do they also move over for emergency vehicles/other vehicles stopped on the shoulder? If you weren't paying attention would it move over to let the ones coming up behind you pass?
I don't think they do yet, but I'm sure they could add that in at some point in the future.
they do but it doesn't do anything . it'll disengage itself .
This isn't even a fair comparison... you are trying to compare the standard feature that every tesla gets to a $6000 package group + a $25 on going subscription that is locked down to select roads.
I will say i love the light on the steering wheel & eye tracking. Tesla 100% should adopt those features.
I can only hope this will be redone one day.
I'm the opposite. I'd rather the hand on the wheel than eye tracking. The Tesla has an internal driver facing camera so they can certainly do it. If they introduce eye tracking I hope it's an option, so you can select one or the other.
Phillip.
You don't have to keep your hands on the wheel for Tesla autopilot. You just have to torque it a bit every once in a while (varies depending on your speed/the situation) to assure it you're paying attention and it will happily continue.
You can just wait for it to nanny you about torquing the wheel and you have a good several seconds to respond. When you use it regularly it is second nature and very relaxing.
Still not worth ten grand.
@@krane15 Autopilot is standard. You're thinking about the FSD upgrade.
keeps watches an episode of tfl with roman in a windy day..
keeps: "let me sponsor this youtuber..."
wayta?
The Keeps commercial in the middle of the video sucks. Thumbs down just for that.
The biggest issue with super cruise is that it’s not available on many roads, not even the freeway that’s closest to me. I live near Seattle even. I don’t care how good a system is in some areas, I care how good it is where I can use it. The super cruise system isn’t available at all for where I do 90% of my driving. I can use my Tesla autopilot system in my neighborhood and about 99.9% of the roads near me. I don’t care what stupid car reviewers say because they don’t daily drive the cars.
Super Cruise is kind of a joke compared to Tesla Autopilot. Autopilot literally works everywhere.
Oh snaps competition!
Supercruise is not more confident or confidence inspiring.
The best feature of the Cadillac I saw here was that apparently it shows u a front video feed in ur instrument cluster. Thats pretty cool! Supercruise clearly does very well on the highway, thanks to all the HD mapping, but it isn't a viable solution for full self driving. While tesla definitely has plenty of examples of it doing wonky things, this video fails to show any of em. The "issue" with the lane widening that he shows was terrible example since it actually handled that situation perfectly lol.
Does the caddy get updates? Auto park? Will It come and get you? And why when in super cruise and you switch lanes that you have to manually turn off the signal?
This feels like the consumer reports hit piece on tesla....
I fail to see how a Caddy on Super Cruise no longer detects the driver looking at the road, and decides "Yeah, I should just disengage at highway speeds. That'll get them to pay attention again."
If someone dies behind the wheel, or if someone falls asleep, gently flashing a light isn't going to wake them up. Neither will simply disengaging autopilot. All it's doing is turning a driverless hunk of steel controlled by AI into a driverless hunk of steel controlled by Isaac Newton.
I believe the drivers seat vibrates as well
If you don't take control it will eventually pull the car over to the side of the rode and shut it off.
Fsd is supposed to be able to navigate to a desired location you program into the car. So it should change lanes to pass people automatically as well as navigate off ramps and intersections and even left turns across multiple lanes of traffic. I've seen videos of the beta in action. It's actually really remarkable. The thing of having to jiggle the wheel all the time is annoying though.
Does this get updates when they map out new highways or are you just stuck with the tech that it has when you buy it? My favorite part about tesla with FSD is its constantly improving