Saving Private Ryan used this effect in some shots were the actors used replicas that fired dust balls that on impact created a large ball of dust. Its a little over the top at times but if you never notice till my comment, then they did their job well. Of course its a mixture of that and pure practical effects of limbs, arms and heads flying off that really drive the bullet effect home along with the final element, sound. In SPR you hear the bullet sound first, and at times a full 1-2 seconds long as the sound is dragged out, then see the bullet impact. Ex: First solder falling when the ramp comes down. Love this channel, thanks for breaking it down!
This is so awesome. I never thought these would be made with anything other than squibs. Also, having your coworkers regularly walk around with paintballguns means nobody steals anyones lunch from the kitchen fridge!
A most epic opening! Just wanted to say you all did a great job filming and explaining how to get fantastic bullet hits! Could you please do a video about lens filters (ND, polariser, starburst, cinebloom, black pro-most, etc.)?
I love your show. Can you please do Bram Stoker’s Dracula effects? The movie is a clinic in practical effects and you guys would be the first I’ve seen breaking them all down and demonstrating how to do them.
I'm a 22yo film student (technically English major with minor in film) and I just finished the script for my first 90 minute feature. I have 2 to 3 short gun fight scene in there and I've been trying to figure out how I would stage an effect like this. Thanks for the insight 👌
Now that's a cool way of doing it! Didn't realise the Zirconium could be used like that (in a paintball gun) to get the metal spark effect! Really cool!
I remember seeing a Behind the scenes pic from an old b&w cowboy movie with the fx cart loaded up with what I assume were dust hits, probably just made on site with water and dirt rolled in a ball left to dry in the desert heat. And the fx guy just using a slingshot.
You guys should make a discord server as well. your patrons can get some special perks to it and im sure people would enjoy a free-flowing forum such as discord to talk about all this cool stuff :) if you need any free hands to help set it up or moderate, i'll toss my name/resume in to assist
@@InCameraTV it may or may not be but since it is free, does not hurt to set up and see how your community responds. It is a wonderful tool to have in your back pocket regardless. Hope everyone is well.
Great episode! Sorry if this have been asked before, but what v-lock plate are you using? Have been searching for one with status LEDs and more than one d-tap!
Yes, they are indeed quite expensive to buy pre-made because they are individually made by hand and often sold in a minimum quantity. Even the empty plastic .68 shells alone (which are made to shatter easily on impact) can add up in price. If you are lucky enough to live somewhere in the world where a special effects house is near - you should be able to rent a technician/operator to provide all of the gear (and liability insurance) to provide some zirc/dust hits for your film project. Almost always they work out way cheaper than pyrotechnic squibs/hits.
@@jp-incamera Thanks JP - I got my pyro licence last year (In Canada) and havent used the zirc hits yet (I'm doing this on the side!!) - love watching your fx vids. Cheers mate.
I’m amazed you didn’t aim for the seagulls! Another great video guys. Well done. If you ever need an extra in your films, give me a shout. Always happy to assist.
By the way, the order of sounds can be different depending on whether the bullets are supersonic. If they are, the bullets should hit before the sound of the shot reaches you
Absolutely fantastic! Each episode you guys do is getting better and better! How do you go about getting a pyro licence in the UK in order to handle these zirc hits / powder?
Thanks Edward, really appreciate it; glad you liked the video! That's definitely a questions for JP, hopefully he'll get back to you on his personal account!
Hi Edward! Best first step is to check online for BECTU approved pyrotechnic courses. There are a many good resources online that should point you to a few options in the UK.
The shoot-out in the warehouse is from Hard Boiled (1992) and the one in the church is from The Killer (1989), both are from John Woo and absolutely awesome action movies. They don't make then like this anymore.
I really enjoyed that, especially the way you composed your shots, no pun intended, especially the tilt down to the feet running. I took away quite a bit of information, on the camera work. 😀 Just wish I could remember all those techniques when I'm playing with my little Panasonic camera. BTW either the bike tyres needed some air or it was a high gravity day while filming?
Thank you! Glad you liked the episode, always nice to know our videos are actually helping people learn! And yeah, they're just flat tyres on the bike!
This was awesome seeing using P-FX with a paintball gun, Sad about the Zirconium deal but I don't know if I would ever try this anyway. It would be fun.
What do you do if you want an actor to have a bullet effect on them? I guess you could just shoot them with the paintball gun, but after a few takes, may not be that great. Same goes for if they're shot in the head? Do you just have to use squibs then?
In the movie ‘Waterworld’ , they fired BB’s or air rifle pellets into a swimming pool and filmed it underwater using a video camera...then used that element to composite into live action. As seen in many mythbuster type shows, real bullets stop very quickly or deform their trajectory very quickly when shot into water. An object with less velocity and mass such as a BB or small ball bearing would give the effect needed as often depicted in movies (straight lines of penetration into body of water). Maybe a solid rubber paintball round would also work, but I’m betting the smaller sized BB round (6mm) would travel the furthest underwater. Cheers. JP
This does seem really really fun and easy to do, but I think to make it seem more realistic, you would need some work in post to add some dents into the surface you are firing into.
@@InCameraTV That would be awesome! Shaun of the Dead is one of my favorite movies ever made, and it was great seeing the "you got red on you" episode you guys did a while back!
For UK procurement/ use and storage of pyrotechnic materials , a BECTU recognised certification or licence is recommended to be obtained. A quick search online should help dig into the subject, as there is a lot of info out there, including requirements for public liability insurance etc.
*BRILLIANT! Absolutely BRILLIANT... **_as always!_* What about body hits? ( _Personally, I've never been shot by a paintball...but I understand it is painful and leaves a nasty bruise!_ ) Are there paintballs for hitting the body and looking like blood spurting? Also, what would happen if an actor were to accidentally be hit by one of those _sparky_ hits? Would it actually burn the actor? Once again, let me say that you guys are *_THE BEST!_*
Thanks Mike! You can do the same method with fake blood in the paintballs, but you'd have to be armoured up or padded for it to be safe. The best option for body hits would probably be Squib hits - which we've got something coming up on!!!
You should NEVER fire these plastic shells at a person regardless of filling. These shells are hard plastic designed to shatter. You can purchase actual red filled paintballs (gelatin shell) but they are hard to come by as its difficult to tell if a player is bleeding while playing paintball if the paint is also red. I can assure you being shot by a paintball does indeed hurt, which is why I play pretty much every other weekend! , but when your playing, the adrenaline masks the pain and your all good. If I were an actor, the lack of adrenaline would sting like a biatch lol.
This is cool, but I always wondered if you could fake shots in camera that were 100% safe. That is paintballs still can be dangerous, maybe not as real pyrotechnics, but still can put an eye out or whatever. Is there a way to get all those effects in camera, without any chance of damage?
Yes - some creative use of split screen would eliminate an actor or stunt person needing to be close, as the shots could be done separately and combined later. It’s worth mentioning that very few things in effects are 100% safe, often the best approach is to minimise the risk and control the outcome as much as possible through design and testing. Although you could see some of the angles we were firing from in our sequence, it was in reality way more off target and at a safer distance than it looked. The power of the camera angle and longer focal length can really make things appear closer than they actually are. Before we shot our little sequence we went through and tested each setup without Pete close by to see where our angle of deflection was as well as where our debris spread would be...from that we calculated how close to safety position Pete and the camera. Paintballs are indeed dangerous, but the risks can be minimised greatly with proper planning, handling and experience. Cheers!
@@jp-incamera - Thanks for the thorough explanation and reply! Your channel is something I had wanted to do for a while (old-school effects techniques and what not), but for some reason I could never follow through or do the work required. I love this channel!
@aaronweir816 unfortunately it’s not that simple, just buy a pyro license to acquire and use Zirc Hits in the UK. You will need to become a (pyrotechnics) SFX Technician, by attending the JIGS two day training course by Event Horizon (Precision Energetics) or a two day P2/T2 Pyrotechnics training course. Then you will need appropriate insurance using pyrotechnics for film and tv. Most manufacturers and suppliers of Zirc Hits w/BP or FP burst and Zirconium metal powder with APS -44μm will not ship to a residential address.
I've always been interested in what real bullet hits do. I've always presumed you don't see an aweful lot and real bullets sound like someone chucking gravel about. Be great to do an fx bullet hit vid followed by live fire one (probably impossible in this country, over to our American cousins 😆) Also whats the saftey element with the paintball rounds, ie if you accidentally hit the actor would they be ok? Or are we talking PJ from Biker Grove? 😵 Great vid, please pass my regards to Mr JP, I went to school with him, Top bloke.
JP here! Thanks for the kind words. If those zirc rounds hit an actor/stunt person, it could be a bad day for them if striking a hard area such as uncovered leg/arm/head. Anything fleshy, they’d likely not detonate and just cause bruising and a lot of shouting :) we made sure that our rounds always struck from a safe angle and distance that ‘looked’ close to camera, but in reality was at quite a safe distance. PS - what name would I know you from school? (Glad to see you made it to Lord status!)
If the rate of fire isn't an issue; I think that you could use a slingshot. For a group of hits in quick succession, you might need several people with slingshots.
Worse comes to worst, I remember a bit the late Grant Imahara did where he explained that you could fill the shells with a mixture of the zirc and the grains from a commercial bangsnap to make them more sensitive and then throw them. Hope that helps.
Like no delay from lighting strike to the thunder clap and no time delay from distant muzzle flashes to the sound, another intentional movie effect mistake, is bullet hits on the ground. Unless the shooter is up high, the bullets hitting the ground should be far behind the target, not around his feet, unless someone is aiming for the targets feet.
Also in this episode you talk a bit about how to set up the camera to get the right look for the different shots. It would be great if you could slow that down a bit and give more detail. I honestly don’t understand what you said. I heard the words, but I don’t know what they mean.
Yes, you can buy zirconium powder here in the UK, yet ordering quantities in volume is somewhat controlled and needs proof of safe storage etc from having a suitable licence. For the sake of the video, it was easier to highlight that at least in many parts of the world - obtaining zirconium powder in the correct mesh might be problematic or even prohibited for sale to the general public, and most importantly that the use of said powder within a load of a paintball round then becomes a different story (legally). Buying the pre-made zirc hits are generally controlled at the point of sale or import (as most are made in the US) and/ or require sufficient proof of licence to be purchased both in the UK and US. Yes, in general the UK has some quite strict rules on procurement of pyrotechnic materials, and whilst it would be amazing to live in the land of the free and be able to buy black powder in Walmart whenever you like, on balance the UK has quite a decent way to control such things from easily getting into the wrong hands. Cheers.
@@InCameraTV film school right here. I wish they yt had better videos like you guys do. Is there anything else you can do in camera to put the actors far away from danger (besides shooting a few feet/meters back) but making it look like they are right there.
It sucks you need a license to get Zirconium powder or spark balls. In the US you can buy 100-count packs of "Hollywood Ball" spark paintballs off the shelf , or 50g containers of Zn powder from any number of chemical suppliers without special licenses.
All over it...whenever Tommy had the gun to film his bits to camera - the c02 was empty by then and purged from the gun. Hopper and chamber checked empty...then handed to Tommy for his bits to camera. The end shot of him firing offscreen was dubbed with sound from previous takes. Trust me, even a nerf gun I’d treat in a similar way before handing over to an actor / presenter etc...knowing that they’d likely be gesticulating when talking and holding anything close to a firearm. Well spotted anyway!...I guess we did our work well if you thought we were being reckless when Tommy was holding the paintball marker and waving it around with his finger on the trigger :) Cheers
According to the FDA, working at Incamera gives you 1000% of your total required daily Zirconium intake.
Saving Private Ryan used this effect in some shots were the actors used replicas that fired dust balls that on impact created a large ball of dust. Its a little over the top at times but if you never notice till my comment, then they did their job well. Of course its a mixture of that and pure practical effects of limbs, arms and heads flying off that really drive the bullet effect home along with the final element, sound. In SPR you hear the bullet sound first, and at times a full 1-2 seconds long as the sound is dragged out, then see the bullet impact. Ex: First solder falling when the ramp comes down.
Love this channel, thanks for breaking it down!
Amazing! We stumbled across that when we did our research for this episode; it's a really great technique that gives amazing results
How the hell do you guys not have over 1 million subscribers.
Hopefully we get there one day!
@@InCameraTV you guys will ! It’s only a matter of time.
You guys are did a great job
Thank you SO much for making this. I've been wanting to do this practically for years but wasn't really sure how to go about it.
No worries! Super simple (if you've got a paintball gun) and the effect looks amazing!
I am in the pre-production phase of a short movie, and I plan on using the dust hits. How many dust hits do you think I should order?
This is so awesome. I never thought these would be made with anything other than squibs.
Also, having your coworkers regularly walk around with paintballguns means nobody steals anyones lunch from the kitchen fridge!
Haha that was the best part of this shoot, getting to fire at Pete all day 😂
Yesss!!!! Yes...Just what we where waiting for!!!!
Well i hope it was worth the wait!
10:38 ayyy I finally made the cut 🤣
Because we got to shoot at you. (P)
So cool, never knew you could even make your own paintball ammo :) let alone squibless bullet effects.
Well I'm glad we've taught you something new then! It's great, right?
Tommy! Trigger discipline!
1:15
The safety was on, I promise!
@@InCameraTV Still, don't let a bad habbit to form. Btw, love your videos!
Awesome video in camera team
Thanks so much, appreciate it!
This effect is REALLY great, but what I'm really curious about it where did Tom get that blue shirt??
A most epic opening! Just wanted to say you all did a great job filming and explaining how to get fantastic bullet hits! Could you please do a video about lens filters (ND, polariser, starburst, cinebloom, black pro-most, etc.)?
My absolute fav episode to date!
Thanks Kelly you legend
This is officially my favorite channel on RUclips!
That's amazing to hear, thank you!
One thing I'd LOVE to do in camera is practical lava/magma. Great vid as always!
It’s on the list :)
Brilliant episode. Best channel out there by far!!!!
Thanks so much Paul, glad you liked the episode; appreciate your support
Another fantastic video, gents! Can't wait to share this out tomorrow.
Thanks Eric, glad you liked it!
I love your show. Can you please do Bram Stoker’s Dracula effects? The movie is a clinic in practical effects and you guys would be the first I’ve seen breaking them all down and demonstrating how to do them.
We'll add it to the list of suggestions, would be great to do a video on it!
They were used in Dr Who "The Pandorica Opens" in 2010 and was covered by the making of series demonstrating how they work.
Oh, nice!
Bravo, boys! Excellent work!
Thanks Geoffrey, really appreciated!
Nice video. Could you make a video on squibs?
Absolutely!
I'm a 22yo film student (technically English major with minor in film) and I just finished the script for my first 90 minute feature. I have 2 to 3 short gun fight scene in there and I've been trying to figure out how I would stage an effect like this. Thanks for the insight 👌
Glad our video could be of help!
Now that's a cool way of doing it! Didn't realise the Zirconium could be used like that (in a paintball gun) to get the metal spark effect! Really cool!
It's great right!? Hope you liked the video!
I remember seeing a Behind the scenes pic from an old b&w cowboy movie with the fx cart loaded up with what I assume were dust hits, probably just made on site with water and dirt rolled in a ball left to dry in the desert heat. And the fx guy just using a slingshot.
haha that's amazing!
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Awesome video as usual!
Thanks so much Taylor!
You guys should make a discord server as well.
your patrons can get some special perks to it and im sure people would enjoy a free-flowing forum such as discord to talk about all this cool stuff :)
if you need any free hands to help set it up or moderate, i'll toss my name/resume in to assist
Thanks for that, that's a great idea actually! Definitely something we'll work on setting up soon then if it's of interest
@@InCameraTV it may or may not be but since it is free, does not hurt to set up and see how your community responds.
It is a wonderful tool to have in your back pocket regardless.
Hope everyone is well.
Dude, a discord would be awesome
GORGEOUS ! MORE !
Plenty more to come don't you worry!
Loving this channel so glad i found it
Glad you're loving it, great to have you onboard!
Uuuuurrrrmaaaazzzeeenn!! Such a good episode legends. Geddon
Great episode! Sorry if this have been asked before, but what v-lock plate are you using? Have been searching for one with status LEDs and more than one d-tap!
It is the Hawk Woods VLM-DC6X ....a truly excellent plate/adapter to help make compact setups, well worth the money in our opinion. Cheers!
@@jp-incamera Perfect, thanks! I will have to look that one up. Keep up the good work!
Excellent video InCamera guys! The downside for us mere mortals is the cost of zirc hits ($200+/100). I'm a happy subscriber - keep posting!
Yes, they are indeed quite expensive to buy pre-made because they are individually made by hand and often sold in a minimum quantity. Even the empty plastic .68 shells alone (which are made to shatter easily on impact) can add up in price. If you are lucky enough to live somewhere in the world where a special effects house is near - you should be able to rent a technician/operator to provide all of the gear (and liability insurance) to provide some zirc/dust hits for your film project. Almost always they work out way cheaper than pyrotechnic squibs/hits.
@@jp-incamera Thanks JP - I got my pyro licence last year (In Canada) and havent used the zirc hits yet (I'm doing this on the side!!) - love watching your fx vids. Cheers mate.
I’m amazed you didn’t aim for the seagulls! Another great video guys. Well done. If you ever need an extra in your films, give me a shout. Always happy to assist.
Oh trust me it was very tempting haha
Another awesome Cowboy Bebop t-shirt!!!!!
Oh yeah!!
Fantastic video guys! You successfully make me jealous every time you release a video.
Thank you! Glad you liked the video!!!
By the way, the order of sounds can be different depending on whether the bullets are supersonic. If they are, the bullets should hit before the sound of the shot reaches you
Absolutely fantastic! Each episode you guys do is getting better and better!
How do you go about getting a pyro licence in the UK in order to handle these zirc hits / powder?
Thanks Edward, really appreciate it; glad you liked the video!
That's definitely a questions for JP, hopefully he'll get back to you on his personal account!
Hi Edward! Best first step is to check online for BECTU approved pyrotechnic courses. There are a many good resources online that should point you to a few options in the UK.
@@jp-incamera Hi JP, that's awesome, thank you :-)
Are you guys going to combine this with the blood spray? I am super looking forward to tutorial on how you did the blood spray in the last episode
Oh yes! We've got more blood episodes lined up don't you worry!
I know flint bombs from lighters give almost the the same effect but can you guys give tips on them?
Yeah, that's something we could definitely have a look at!
where to get this type of gun, for shooting purposes? 3:08
Such a fun watch! This channel is amazing. Thankyou for your hard work and sharing your knowledge.
Glad you liked the video! And no worries, it wouldn't be possible without all your support
Very much appreciated brothers👍
This is a random one - any chance to show safe practice for stunts invloving cars / crashing? :D
That's certainly not our speciality; but I'm sure we could find some people who would be experts in that field!
Bickers action channel
Spotted Tommy in a masterclass by Roberto Schaefer🤩🤩🤩
Amazing spot! We had someone a while back notice him as well!
your channel is amazing
Thank you! Really glad you're liking the videos!
Love your content!!
Thank you!
What film is that, the one playing when the sparky rounds are being explained?
The shoot-out in the warehouse is from Hard Boiled (1992) and the one in the church is from The Killer (1989), both are from John Woo and absolutely awesome action movies. They don't make then like this anymore.
YAY. You did it!
Oh yes! Hope you liked it!
I really enjoyed that, especially the way you composed your shots, no pun intended, especially the tilt down to the feet running.
I took away quite a bit of information, on the camera work. 😀
Just wish I could remember all those techniques when I'm playing with my little Panasonic camera.
BTW either the bike tyres needed some air or it was a high gravity day while filming?
Thank you! Glad you liked the episode, always nice to know our videos are actually helping people learn!
And yeah, they're just flat tyres on the bike!
This was awesome seeing using P-FX with a paintball gun, Sad about the Zirconium deal but I don't know if I would ever try this anyway. It would be fun.
What do you do if you want an actor to have a bullet effect on them? I guess you could just shoot them with the paintball gun, but after a few takes, may not be that great. Same goes for if they're shot in the head? Do you just have to use squibs then?
What do the underwater impacts that leave a line of bubbles do in films? someone knows ?
In the movie ‘Waterworld’ , they fired BB’s or air rifle pellets into a swimming pool and filmed it underwater using a video camera...then used that element to composite into live action. As seen in many mythbuster type shows, real bullets stop very quickly or deform their trajectory very quickly when shot into water. An object with less velocity and mass such as a BB or small ball bearing would give the effect needed as often depicted in movies (straight lines of penetration into body of water). Maybe a solid rubber paintball round would also work, but I’m betting the smaller sized BB round (6mm) would travel the furthest underwater. Cheers. JP
This does seem really really fun and easy to do, but I think to make it seem more realistic, you would need some work in post to add some dents into the surface you are firing into.
This is the kinda stuff I dig. Would be cool to see something inspired by zombies too. Great work you guys!
Thanks Cody! It's like you can read our minds as we may have started planning a Zombie killing episode 👀
@@InCameraTV That would be awesome! Shaun of the Dead is one of my favorite movies ever made, and it was great seeing the "you got red on you" episode you guys did a while back!
Love these videos!!!
If it's so much fun to watch, I can't even imagine what it must be like to do it 😲😃😁 !
Oh it was great fun to shoot at Pete all day haha; glad you liked the video!
Great video! Love the Cowboy Bebop shirt btw 👍👍
Thanks! 😁
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Excellent tutorial. Still kind of worries me that projectiles are being fired anywhere near actors though and how that might affect insurance...😉
Glad you liked the video! Pete will be well chuffed that he's been called an actor haha!
Is their a practical alternative zirc hits for thos without a pyro liscense?
Thanks so much for this!
Awesome!
Thank you!
what is the name of the black liquid you put in the paper ball tube
canbi get it
I want to buy this gun to make a movie, how and where to buy it. Please help, thank you
Paintball fire 😱😍
This episode was a ... blast! LOL
haha thank you!
That intro secuence would be a cool Raycon (TM) add.
Haha definitely, that would’ve been a great way to do a sponsored bit for them 🤣
"There is noise-cancelling ear buds... and then there are Raycon noise-cancelling ear buds... PEW PEW PEW!"
I'm loving this channel! I'm a bit of a prop maker, so if you ever need something small making, give me a shout and we can see if I can help out.
Thanks mr Cumberbatch
haha, no worries; hope you liked the episode!
Is this straight zirconium powder or zirconium oxide powder?
How is the "incamera" intro logo cg bro... I thought this was in camera lol
It's not... we did a whole video on Volumetric logos and how we created ours using that technique 👌
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@@InCameraTV Im a dumbass lol just saw that. Just signed up for the ultimate package on patreon, call it an ignorance fee lol
Kept hearing "pyro license" as "pirate license", and that sounded like a pretty awesome license to have, ngl.
😂
That was an actual thing in the Middle Ages. Privateering.
Which "licence" is required to do this? Bectu or ...?
For UK procurement/ use and storage of pyrotechnic materials , a BECTU recognised certification or licence is recommended to be obtained. A quick search online should help dig into the subject, as there is a lot of info out there, including requirements for public liability insurance etc.
TY SO MUCH
No worries!
Where can you buy the powder paintballs ?
I love Zirc hits
Very nice
Thank you!
*BRILLIANT! Absolutely BRILLIANT... **_as always!_*
What about body hits?
( _Personally, I've never been shot by a paintball...but I understand it is painful and leaves a nasty bruise!_ )
Are there paintballs for hitting the body and looking like blood spurting?
Also, what would happen if an actor were to accidentally be hit by one of those _sparky_ hits? Would it actually burn the actor?
Once again, let me say that you guys are *_THE BEST!_*
Thanks Mike! You can do the same method with fake blood in the paintballs, but you'd have to be armoured up or padded for it to be safe. The best option for body hits would probably be Squib hits - which we've got something coming up on!!!
@@InCameraTV THANKs
You should NEVER fire these plastic shells at a person regardless of filling. These shells are hard plastic designed to shatter. You can purchase actual red filled paintballs (gelatin shell) but they are hard to come by as its difficult to tell if a player is bleeding while playing paintball if the paint is also red. I can assure you being shot by a paintball does indeed hurt, which is why I play pretty much every other weekend! , but when your playing, the adrenaline masks the pain and your all good. If I were an actor, the lack of adrenaline would sting like a biatch lol.
This is cool, but I always wondered if you could fake shots in camera that were 100% safe. That is paintballs still can be dangerous, maybe not as real pyrotechnics, but still can put an eye out or whatever. Is there a way to get all those effects in camera, without any chance of damage?
Yes - some creative use of split screen would eliminate an actor or stunt person needing to be close, as the shots could be done separately and combined later. It’s worth mentioning that very few things in effects are 100% safe, often the best approach is to minimise the risk and control the outcome as much as possible through design and testing. Although you could see some of the angles we were firing from in our sequence, it was in reality way more off target and at a safer distance than it looked. The power of the camera angle and longer focal length can really make things appear closer than they actually are. Before we shot our little sequence we went through and tested each setup without Pete close by to see where our angle of deflection was as well as where our debris spread would be...from that we calculated how close to safety position Pete and the camera. Paintballs are indeed dangerous, but the risks can be minimised greatly with proper planning, handling and experience. Cheers!
@@jp-incamera - Thanks for the thorough explanation and reply! Your channel is something I had wanted to do for a while (old-school effects techniques and what not), but for some reason I could never follow through or do the work required. I love this channel!
Can someone help me get these effects
Does anyone know the specific pyro license you need for the Hollywood balls? (For the UK specifically)
@aaronweir816 unfortunately it’s not that simple, just buy a pyro license to acquire and use Zirc Hits in the UK. You will need to become a (pyrotechnics) SFX Technician, by attending the JIGS two day training course by Event Horizon (Precision Energetics) or a two day P2/T2 Pyrotechnics training course. Then you will need appropriate insurance using pyrotechnics for film and tv. Most manufacturers and suppliers of Zirc Hits w/BP or FP burst and Zirconium metal powder with APS -44μm will not ship to a residential address.
Great vid.
Thanks Man, appreciate the support!
I've always been interested in what real bullet hits do. I've always presumed you don't see an aweful lot and real bullets sound like someone chucking gravel about.
Be great to do an fx bullet hit vid followed by live fire one (probably impossible in this country, over to our American cousins 😆)
Also whats the saftey element with the paintball rounds, ie if you accidentally hit the actor would they be ok? Or are we talking PJ from Biker Grove? 😵
Great vid, please pass my regards to Mr JP, I went to school with him, Top bloke.
JP here! Thanks for the kind words. If those zirc rounds hit an actor/stunt person, it could be a bad day for them if striking a hard area such as uncovered leg/arm/head. Anything fleshy, they’d likely not detonate and just cause bruising and a lot of shouting :) we made sure that our rounds always struck from a safe angle and distance that ‘looked’ close to camera, but in reality was at quite a safe distance. PS - what name would I know you from school? (Glad to see you made it to Lord status!)
@@jp-incamera all very interesting, top work. Lord Worthy here.
@@Lordborak316 honoured to have you with us Lord Worthy! Love to the family x
@@jp-incamera cheers man, Rob H put me on to your channel, lovin the vids, hope you are well look forward to seeing future work.
And now comes the part where I attempt to find a paintball gun legally in Australia to try this effect...Wish me luck!
haha, good luck then I guess!
If the rate of fire isn't an issue; I think that you could use a slingshot. For a group of hits in quick succession, you might need several people with slingshots.
Worse comes to worst, I remember a bit the late Grant Imahara did where he explained that you could fill the shells with a mixture of the zirc and the grains from a commercial bangsnap to make them more sensitive and then throw them. Hope that helps.
@@nottherealpaulsmith What's the worst that could happen? 😂
Whats a poor mans solution zirc hits or spark hits?
there is not one
Fill the empty paintball with dragonsnaps. Or if no paintballs available, tie 10 dragonsnaps in a tissue and use a slingshot.
Like no delay from lighting strike to the thunder clap and no time delay from distant muzzle flashes to the sound, another intentional movie effect mistake, is bullet hits on the ground. Unless the shooter is up high, the bullets hitting the ground should be far behind the target, not around his feet, unless someone is aiming for the targets feet.
Also in this episode you talk a bit about how to set up the camera to get the right look for the different shots. It would be great if you could slow that down a bit and give more detail. I honestly don’t understand what you said. I heard the words, but I don’t know what they mean.
Look up the exposure triangle. It's pretty simple if you give any of the resources out there a quick read.
@@blakebonecutter wow thanks. I really appreciate it.
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And now I gotta buy a paintball gun.
Oh yes!
"You shoot like a storm trooper" 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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You have to have a LICENSE in the UK to buy zirconium powder. In the USA we have been on this other thing called being an adult...
Yes, you can buy zirconium powder here in the UK, yet ordering quantities in volume is somewhat controlled and needs proof of safe storage etc from having a suitable licence. For the sake of the video, it was easier to highlight that at least in many parts of the world - obtaining zirconium powder in the correct mesh might be problematic or even prohibited for sale to the general public, and most importantly that the use of said powder within a load of a paintball round then becomes a different story (legally). Buying the pre-made zirc hits are generally controlled at the point of sale or import (as most are made in the US) and/ or require sufficient proof of licence to be purchased both in the UK and US. Yes, in general the UK has some quite strict rules on procurement of pyrotechnic materials, and whilst it would be amazing to live in the land of the free and be able to buy black powder in Walmart whenever you like, on balance the UK has quite a decent way to control such things from easily getting into the wrong hands. Cheers.
@@jp-incamera what is the correct mesh
Where can you buy it? I've been looking for months with no luck. Everywhere either needs a license or does not sell it
A new video!!!!!
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@@InCameraTV film school right here. I wish they yt had better videos like you guys do. Is there anything else you can do in camera to put the actors far away from danger (besides shooting a few feet/meters back) but making it look like they are right there.
RTJ
Yessir. Nothing but the finest. (P)
It sucks you need a license to get Zirconium powder or spark balls. In the US you can buy 100-count packs of "Hollywood Ball" spark paintballs off the shelf , or 50g containers of Zn powder from any number of chemical suppliers without special licenses.
Yes you can buy them from fx house but very expensive like 3 to 4 dollars each.
can you name some places and chem suppliers? I'm in the US without a pyro license trying and struggeling to find it for my film
Tanpa arah
Finger outside of the trigger guard when you're not firing if you please 😁
All over it...whenever Tommy had the gun to film his bits to camera - the c02 was empty by then and purged from the gun. Hopper and chamber checked empty...then handed to Tommy for his bits to camera. The end shot of him firing offscreen was dubbed with sound from previous takes. Trust me, even a nerf gun I’d treat in a similar way before handing over to an actor / presenter etc...knowing that they’d likely be gesticulating when talking and holding anything close to a firearm. Well spotted anyway!...I guess we did our work well if you thought we were being reckless when Tommy was holding the paintball marker and waving it around with his finger on the trigger :) Cheers
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