Hi, obnoxious history student here. Just wanted to say that this looks absolutely exceptional the only alteration I would suggest is that since Dresden was targeted because of it’s railway network it would make sense if the fires were more concentrated around the railways and their stations. Again though, absolutely beautiful work I’m definitely subscribing after this.
You're spot on; unfortunately this city scape is actually of Cologne, not Dresden, as we couldn't find a high enough resolution image of Dresden for this scale. We tried to replicate the best we could the patterns of the targets though in terms of areas with large buildings etc.
With something like this, the results have to be better than the CG alternative and this absolutely was. Awesome technique, great content. Subbed instantly.
I respectuflly disagree, you can do this very well in cg but it would be extremely time consuming. However this method not only is wayyyy less time consuming but also has the added benift of being accessible and anyone can do it! :)
Very True but you also have to take into account render times, volumetric smoke would take extremely long to render even on fast computer, but yes if you were smart about it you could just used composition to add the smoke after you rendered the scene
I thought that it would be a bunch of people making a fully CGI scene, but this just blew my mind and truly shows that practical effects are by far the best way of filmmaking.
@@InCameraTV it’s pretty unreal. It gives me hope for stuff like this if I ever have to cheat an aerial shot because I always try to slide the cam and sometimes that doesn’t actually matter. Thank you for breaking me of this.
JP has such an incredible eye for not only details but being able to execute the craziest stuff. It's hard to beat the actual Bomber video but this one went from printed paper to a bombed out city in like 5min!
Citizen Kane used this effect back in the 40s. Since they couldn't afford hundreds of extras they had a photo of a crowd, cut around their heads and moved lights around them to make it look like the heads were moving. Its so cool to this technique still used today, just goes to show you, computers will never replace a good old fashion Leonardo da vinci paint brush
As someone who is a creative/artist in a different field, this video doesn't have any practical value in terms of technique etc but it does give me an invaluable feeling of inspiration. Watching your videos these past few months have helped give me back the joy I used to have for creation. I do also find the video's subjects incredibly interesting and your presentation style instantly likeable. Thanks for all the effort you guys obviously put in to the channel.
I think my favorite part is JP's little search light servo rig and that accidental ambient/flare pass. Those two things really tie it all together & give it some much needed life.
Your attention to detail is commendable. your crew has way to much fun when they achieve the results your looking fore , I'm shure as a result of many hours of experimentation. This project is near to my heart but i am fascinated to see the processes in the development of this most realistic film Thank you foe showing your work. Ontario Canada .
@@rithradiengran7534 capitalism. individual free range humans. People free to own property... "same as ideologies that use armies to seize and prevent people owning property including food". You should learn asap what an ignorant evil promoting person you are.
Guys, this is crazy. It's so simple (as you say, it's just paper and a little bit of light), and so complicated in the same time, I really love your work. The result is impressive. Thank you.
If you guys were to use LCD TVS playing videos of fire patterns, or moving red/orange/yellow imaging your fires/lights would be animated...Further selling the affect. A cheaper solution would be to use your LEDs but then moving some sort of patterned paper over them (Between the light and the map) or blowing your fog underneath the map. Just some spitballing for future projects. Love the channel!
This is pretty interesting to illustrate the impermanence of things. The people who burned in the city might have felt like it was hell. The worst experience of their lives. 70+ years later, it would become a artwork film set.
great shot, I love how it warps the passing of time because on the ground nothing moves. It's an abstract representation of the horrid destruction of war: a larger than life presentation. Not sure if that was the intension or it just came out that way, but I love it!
Incredible work and I think looks even better than the effects that we're done in the height of the original practical effects era of the 1980s you guys have the top filmmaking channel on RUclips
Wow thanks so much we really appreciate it. This was our largest scale and most time consuming project yet so it's great to see all the support so far! There's so many amazing filmmaking channels on youtube, so your comment is extremely flattering, thank you!
WOW! I have had an interest in the bombing of Dresden ever since I read _Slaughterhouse-Five_ as a kid. I actually deep-dived and learned everything I could about it. There was a time I could have told you exactly how much of each kind of ordnance was dropped from each wave throughout that night, what the ambient temperature was, how many Lancs were in each squadron, etc. I mean it. I was obsessed. I even outlined a script about it that would follow a German family throughout the night as they tried to avoid getting killed.
Might make a good book ? We need to remember the past so we can hold our Politicians in check if they start to get too radical . Unfortunately , these lessons don't work in Russia or Iran . Ontario Canada .
It's incredible what you can do with pretty much practical elements; and a lot of work and dedication of course. I'm impressed with every single project you guys been sharing with us, can't wait to see the final work on this one!
You need way more subscribers. I'm not a cinematographer or anything near this but I love this video's so much. To see how something comes to existence is so satisfying to watch
Wow thanks so much! There's something extremely rewarding about seeing sheets of paper, plush toy stuffing and LED lights turn into a shot for a movie! Great to have you on board though my friend
Thank you guys. Love this project as it involves one of my passion, the history of Bomber Command in WWII However can I comment on some elements. Love how you built the ground plane with spot fires and bigger conflagrations. I agree about the searchlights, but having one sweep across the lens would be an opportunity of a massive spike in contrast. What I think is lacking is the random but quite frequent flashes of ‘cookies’ exploding on the ground. Looking at original footage of raids, which I am sure you have also viewed, these cookie flashes have a characteristic pulse of bright yellow light then fades over a second or so through orange. You might think this is too literal, but I think it is an integral part of the true visual effect. Also flak bursts possibly represented by very short ambient flashes, and would be backed up with sound. This flak would also leave traces at or around the aircraft levels, so giving the opportunity of having some stationary traces of smoke moving under the viewer. My biggest problem with your ‘final’ run is the relation of ground to aircraft. I presume you panned the camera over the ground to give the impression of movement. Is the viewpoint from a Lancaster or a much slower moving craft. Why then are the Lancasters going so much quicker. And the density of aircraft is completely unrealistic. No form of ‘formation’ could be flown at night, and often the aircraft might be flying on slightly differing headings. And differing heights. I am sure you are aware of target indicator flares visible cascading from a set height to the ground, but I think this would be unreasonable to comment about. Fantastic piece. Thank you so much for showing your thinking and the technical side, and an insight into the levels you build and and your post production.
Whoa, so cool to see this being realized in practical effects! Being a WW2 history nerd with 20 years plus into the field, I also got constructive critizism: ;D Don't forget Flak bursts (just in case ;) ).
You know what would be really cool to see? Creature effects. You know how to do destroyed cities now, so you need to do your own British Godzilla scene.
@@TheEplestugas Yes I go that too, did a reverse image search. I mean it doesn't really matter for the effect, great nonetheless. But it's funny, especially because it's so far away :D
Suggestion for a future episode... Filming some sort of large puppet or animatronic , as an alien invader... as a practical effect Maybe a shot like creature's hand coming around a corner of a suburban house's hallway (i.e. similar to the shot of the martian's hand grabbing the woman's shoulder from the original 50's War of the Worlds, etc),- I say this realizing you guys might need to partner w someone that does creature effects, (I realize the sci-fi channel did quite a lot of that on the show "Face Off" but some description on how to film these things to make them look realistic would be quite awesome-
Dang this was madly impressive, especially that it's all practical.
Thank you! Hope you enjoyed the video!
HOLY SHIT MY childhood Lego stop motion video maker just commented here! And I’m just the 5th like and the 2nd reply!
yup
Yeah. Practical is so much more interesting than polygons.
@@maestro-zq8gu more practical than flying triangles.
Hi, obnoxious history student here. Just wanted to say that this looks absolutely exceptional the only alteration I would suggest is that since Dresden was targeted because of it’s railway network it would make sense if the fires were more concentrated around the railways and their stations.
Again though, absolutely beautiful work I’m definitely subscribing after this.
You're spot on; unfortunately this city scape is actually of Cologne, not Dresden, as we couldn't find a high enough resolution image of Dresden for this scale. We tried to replicate the best we could the patterns of the targets though in terms of areas with large buildings etc.
Best filmmaking channel right now!!!! You guys are so creative and good at what you do!!
Wow thanks so much for the continued support guys!
@@InCameraTV aa
A fact!
@@luigividaletti3468 ابوسيفين
@@InCameraTV yeah, that was awesome! You guys deserve more subscribers!
With something like this, the results have to be better than the CG alternative and this absolutely was. Awesome technique, great content. Subbed instantly.
I respectuflly disagree, you can do this very well in cg but it would be extremely time consuming. However this method not only is wayyyy less time consuming but also has the added benift of being accessible and anyone can do it! :)
@@-saca-1297 The only way this would take longer with CGI is if you didn’t know what you were doing in CGI.
Very True but you also have to take into account render times, volumetric smoke would take extremely long to render even on fast computer, but yes if you were smart about it you could just used composition to add the smoke after you rendered the scene
@@-saca-1297 You could use 2D assets.
My overall point is that this looks better than CGI so it’s worth the work/extra time. For sure.
not really. 3D would be a lot more effective.
I thought that it would be a bunch of people making a fully CGI scene, but this just blew my mind and truly shows that practical effects are by far the best way of filmmaking.
Practical FX are just amazing, right!? Hope you liked the video!
This was genius! So many cool tricks 🔥
Thank you!
The search lights are a lovely touch. Can't wait to see the fully composed shot. Great work once again.
Oh yes, JP really just finds those little extra bits that help sell the effect perfectly!
This has been the most informative and largest scale episode to date. Fantastic.
Thanks Darrell, really appreciate the comment! This was a big task for us, really glad to see people are loving the final shot!
@@InCameraTV it’s pretty unreal. It gives me hope for stuff like this if I ever have to cheat an aerial shot because I always try to slide the cam and sometimes that doesn’t actually matter. Thank you for breaking me of this.
i am completly your opinion!
Pls come back old school filmmaking :(
And thank you guys for keeping the tradition alive!! :D
No worries, hope you liked the episode!
Incredible work!
Hi how are you
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the support, glad you liked how it turned out!
JP has such an incredible eye for not only details but being able to execute the craziest stuff. It's hard to beat the actual Bomber video but this one went from printed paper to a bombed out city in like 5min!
Amazing work and creativity!
Thanks so much, Nigel! Really appreciate the support
Pure genius. Especially the changing luminance.
Citizen Kane used this effect back in the 40s. Since they couldn't afford hundreds of extras they had a photo of a crowd, cut around their heads and moved lights around them to make it look like the heads were moving. Its so cool to this technique still used today, just goes to show you, computers will never replace a good old fashion Leonardo da vinci paint brush
18:30 I like how simply moving the lights from underneath and to the side just makes a normal bird's eye city image, a sunset ready to ensue.
It was a very happy accident, it looks great, right!?
@@InCameraTV It does, and I love it
As someone who is a creative/artist in a different field, this video doesn't have any practical value in terms of technique etc but it does give me an invaluable feeling of inspiration. Watching your videos these past few months have helped give me back the joy I used to have for creation. I do also find the video's subjects incredibly interesting and your presentation style instantly likeable. Thanks for all the effort you guys obviously put in to the channel.
And THAT sir, is why we're here (T)
I am completely smitten with this channel. I’ve been a still photographer for decades, now I want to do this
Thanks Terry, glad you're loving the videos!
I think my favorite part is JP's little search light servo rig and that accidental ambient/flare pass. Those two things really tie it all together & give it some much needed life.
Your attention to detail is commendable. your crew has way to much fun when they achieve the results your looking fore , I'm shure as a result of many hours of experimentation.
This project is near to my heart but i am fascinated to see the processes in the development of this most realistic film Thank you foe showing your work. Ontario Canada .
18:37 reminded me of Ryan George's frequent phrase " Wow wow wow " in his pitch meeting videos
Well spotted! We're big Ryan George fans so expect a few references of his to pop up!
@@InCameraTV 😯 That's Great!! Can't wait!
Benedict Cumbrrbatch's kid brother....the likeness is eerie. The mannerisms too. 😇😇😇
We need more content likes this ! Thank you guys to share your creativity
No worries! Glad you liked the video
“Sticking paper to paper is fun!”
“Bombing cities is NOT okay!”
@@TheBelrick who said the commies were good?
@@DeviantGryphonFromTinyMoat the masters who have used communism as one of their ideological weapons to take over the world.
@@TheBelrick you can say the same thing about capitalism its all about perspective
@@rithradiengran7534 capitalism. individual free range humans. People free to own property... "same as ideologies that use armies to seize and prevent people owning property including food". You should learn asap what an ignorant evil promoting person you are.
@@TheBelrick commietard?
Guys, this is crazy. It's so simple (as you say, it's just paper and a little bit of light), and so complicated in the same time, I really love your work. The result is impressive. Thank you.
Saw this on my recommended and thought why the hell not. This was phenomenal and I fail to see why artists of this calibre are not more noticed
Thank you so much, really appreciate it!
If you guys were to use LCD TVS playing videos of fire patterns, or moving red/orange/yellow imaging your fires/lights would be animated...Further selling the affect. A cheaper solution would be to use your LEDs but then moving some sort of patterned paper over them (Between the light and the map) or blowing your fog underneath the map. Just some spitballing for future projects. Love the channel!
This is pretty interesting to illustrate the impermanence of things. The people who burned in the city might have felt like it was hell. The worst experience of their lives. 70+ years later, it would become a artwork film set.
*_You guys are having FAR too much fun!_*
Every single episode is just gold! Bravo!
Thanks so much Michael!
An incredible project, beautifully done!
Thanks Geoffrey, glad you liked it!
Such a good result. Got to love the practical effects!
Thanks Paul, we're all super happy at how it turned out!
I just discovered i love practical FXs. Thanks guys. Amazing job
Practical are the best! Glad you liked it!
This is so underrated! I feel like you should have a few million subscribers by now!
Thanks so much, hopefully we get there one day!
@@InCameraTV I know you will
There is so much magic involved in practical effects, I love it!
Right!? Glad you liked the video!
I loved this! Reminded me of watching the making of the Original 6 Star Wars films when i was younger.
Glad you liked the video; hope you like the other videos on the channel!
this should have millions of views
Fingers crossed it gets there eventually!
This is absolutely brilliant!
Thanks so much Aaron!
Terrific creative and technical chops.
Thats best Channel about filmmake in RUclips
Crazy. Just printed paper. Amazing. Amazing.
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
OMG it is so exciting ! Your project is sooooo cool !
Thank you!
So cool seeing these types of practical effects in action. Great work humans!
Thanks Nick!
great shot, I love how it warps the passing of time because on the ground nothing moves. It's an abstract representation of the horrid destruction of war: a larger than life presentation. Not sure if that was the intension or it just came out that way, but I love it!
Another great video and project fellas! I think I've found new wallpaper for the nursery... those search nightlights will be perfect.
Thanks you! Glad you liked how the final shot turned out!
Looks way better than I expected, good job
Thank you!
I like. Then I watch. Have not regretted this routine nor do I suspect I will.
the work put into this is so amazing
Thank you! I hope the end result was worth it!
This might be my favourite so far... such a clever idea! You guys are professionals!!
Thanks so much Callum, glad you liked it!
I'll say I'm thrilled to have found your channel, fantastic learning experience. Thanks so much!
you guys are amazing, is hard to believe this it's all practical, very impressive. Good job, I'm fan now.
Really enjoying watching your progress
Wow, I would have never guessed it was done like this
Hope you like how it turned out!
Its amazing how such "simple" things like paper can look so good on camera with a bit of creativity.
Love your channel!
This is the best episode yet. Absolutely fantastic. Keep it up!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Really looking forward to seeing part two. And thanks to Epic Light Media for recommending this channel
Oh we're super excited too, the final composite is just spine chillingly good!
Love that Cyberdyne hoody!
Helpful hint to hide lines in a manual orthomosaic- cut the pieces in a gentle “s” curve and it will hide the cut lines.
I would love this as a photo for my brother to put with our grandfather's ww2 medals. Looks amazing!
I hope you are not german...
@@BritneyLaZonga My grandpa downed 25 aircraft in WW2! He was the worst luftwaffe mechanic of the war! (This is a joke, dont worry)
Wow! Great work and inspiration, bro, good luck!
Looks phenomenal! So cool. Can't wait for part 2!
Thanks Jason, neither can we!
so incredible! Great work guys
Thank you, Mike!
Imo you guys are the best practical fx channel right now. Absolutely stellar job guys! Thanks Tommy.
glad you liked how the final shot turned out! And thanks so much for the support, really appreciated!
@@InCameraTV You bet!
Incredible work and I think looks even better than the effects that we're done in the height of the original practical effects era of the 1980s you guys have the top filmmaking channel on RUclips
Wow thanks so much we really appreciate it. This was our largest scale and most time consuming project yet so it's great to see all the support so far! There's so many amazing filmmaking channels on youtube, so your comment is extremely flattering, thank you!
very impressive!
Thanks so much!
I'm so glad I found this channel. Even though I'm not planning to make any movies just watching this creativity on display is immensely enjoyable.
Thanks so much, glad to have you onboard!
Dresden is a bit of a touchy subject with us brits and especially bomber command. Lovely work!
Dresdener here: The city is georgious today, you should come and visit some day. + I also think that technique is great work!
@@Phonobrain It does look lovely in the photos ive seen. Once again I apologise for what we did :)
@@aaronhutt274 bombs suck for all involved
"Get the river right, everything else is just a grey mess" Arthur Harris, 1945.
WOW! I have had an interest in the bombing of Dresden ever since I read _Slaughterhouse-Five_ as a kid. I actually deep-dived and learned everything I could about it. There was a time I could have told you exactly how much of each kind of ordnance was dropped from each wave throughout that night, what the ambient temperature was, how many Lancs were in each squadron, etc. I mean it. I was obsessed. I even outlined a script about it that would follow a German family throughout the night as they tried to avoid getting killed.
Might make a good book ? We need to remember the past so we can hold our Politicians in check if they start to get too radical . Unfortunately , these lessons don't work in Russia or Iran . Ontario Canada .
It's incredible what you can do with pretty much practical elements; and a lot of work and dedication of course.
I'm impressed with every single project you guys been sharing with us, can't wait to see the final work on this one!
How does this channel not have more subs, this was so cool
Everyone's gotta start somewhere! Glad you liked the video!
Great segment. MORE!!!
Awesome work!
It looks really awesome! And I love the cotton clouds!
Awesome work guys, That was amazing, super excited to see how this shapes up!! 👌
Thanks brudderrrrrr!
You need way more subscribers. I'm not a cinematographer or anything near this but I love this video's so much. To see how something comes to existence is so satisfying to watch
Wow thanks so much! There's something extremely rewarding about seeing sheets of paper, plush toy stuffing and LED lights turn into a shot for a movie! Great to have you on board though my friend
this was amazing. hands down
Thank you!
It's so deceptively simple, i never would have thought such an image could exist but not be CGI
OMG this is brilliant and genius!
Thank you so much!
Thank you guys. Love this project as it involves one of my passion, the history of Bomber Command in WWII
However can I comment on some elements. Love how you built the ground plane with spot fires and bigger conflagrations. I agree about the searchlights, but having one sweep across the lens would be an opportunity of a massive spike in contrast. What I think is lacking is the random but quite frequent flashes of ‘cookies’ exploding on the ground. Looking at original footage of raids, which I am sure you have also viewed, these cookie flashes have a characteristic
pulse of bright yellow light then fades over a second or so through orange. You might think this is too literal, but I think it is an integral part of the true visual effect. Also flak bursts possibly represented by very short ambient flashes, and would be backed up with sound. This flak would also leave traces at or around the aircraft levels, so giving the opportunity of having some stationary traces of smoke moving under the viewer.
My biggest problem with your ‘final’ run is the relation of ground to aircraft. I presume you panned the camera over the ground to give the impression of movement. Is the viewpoint from a Lancaster or a much slower moving craft. Why then are the Lancasters going so much quicker. And the density of aircraft is completely unrealistic. No form of ‘formation’ could be flown at night, and often the aircraft might be flying on slightly differing headings. And differing heights. I am sure you are aware of target indicator flares visible cascading from a set height to the ground, but I think this would be unreasonable to comment about.
Fantastic piece. Thank you so much for showing your thinking and the technical side, and an insight into the levels you build and and your post production.
That's really impressive fellas! thanks for all your good work.
Whoa, so cool to see this being realized in practical effects!
Being a WW2 history nerd with 20 years plus into the field, I also got constructive critizism: ;D
Don't forget Flak bursts (just in case ;) ).
This was on a grand scale! I love how you guys use modest materials to create a such big budget look, love it!
Thanks Edward, really appreciate it!
Outstanding.
This stuff is fascinating.
I'm so happy I've stumbled upon this channel. Your work is awesome and I hope your channel will grow so you can keep making this amazing content!
Tremendous! Great project and results.
This channel is going to be huge. Awesome work lads.
AWESOME. This is so cool!
Thanks Daniel!
Absolutely beautiful!
Absolutely amazing!!
You know what would be really cool to see? Creature effects. You know how to do destroyed cities now, so you need to do your own British Godzilla scene.
haha, now there's a suggestion 😂 'Hello Humans' changes to 'Hello Monsters' for an episode 😉
Yes please!!
Just simply amazing!!!! Good experimental setup and shoots! bloody brilliant, that's all i can say! keep up the good work guys!
Thank you so much!!! Hope you liked the video!
Man! That is an amazing piece of genius! Looks so real, great job fellas 👍🏻
Thank you so much, glad you like how it turned out!
I absolutely love your channel, always such great videos and ideas, can't wait to see you guys finish this shot. Great to see some fellow Brits too!
Great effects, very chilling, especially because I'm from Dresden myself. Grettings from Germany :)
Oh wow, hello! We're really glad you liked the effect and how the final shot turned out. Much love ❤
No problem, I love the channel. It is so great to see that much creativity and DIY spirit here
PS: Not sure what city that is but it's not Dresden :D
@@a.n.t.94 @InCamera Yes, you are right. It is Cologne 😂 not Dresden. It's is literally on the other side of Germany.
@@TheEplestugas Yes I go that too, did a reverse image search. I mean it doesn't really matter for the effect, great nonetheless. But it's funny, especially because it's so far away :D
@Johannes it is Cologne yes! The tricky part was finding a good enough quality aerial image with no clouds!
Only just discovered this channel, it's great!
Thank you, glad you're enjoying the videos!
Great episode Tommy! This looks so cool. Can't wait to see the final product.
Thanks Si!
Suggestion for a future episode...
Filming some sort of large puppet or animatronic , as an alien invader... as a practical effect
Maybe a shot like creature's hand coming around a corner of a suburban house's hallway (i.e. similar to the shot of the martian's hand grabbing the woman's shoulder from the original 50's War of the Worlds, etc),-
I say this realizing you guys might need to partner w someone that does creature effects, (I realize the sci-fi channel did quite a lot of that on the show "Face Off"
but some description on how to film these things to make them look realistic would be quite awesome-
Awesome! From Arizona
The best filmmaking channel on RUclips. Truly informative and creative solutions with consistently great presentation.