Couple Buys Stolen Car at Dealership, Leads Authorities to Title Washing Ring
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2019
- 'TITLE WASHING': A man and his fiancee were detained by police after the car they bought from a dealership turned out to be stolen. HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF: abc7.ws/2TboSGs
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That dealership needs to be sued. They are negligent.
Nah, the lawmakers (politicians) need to sued as there are no laws requiring dealers to check the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) database!
Stop covering for dealerships!
@@patrickkerner1471 Might wanna replay the clip my dude...
We found somebody who didn't watch the video
That's literally not something that happens a lot im sure you know
PARTIAL PAYMENT?!? Hell no. They deserve every penny of their hard earned money. Tf?!?
Because the dealership is a money eating pig.
They got played either way. A brand new malibu is 22k they could’ve just bought a new one for the same price.
@Im da Man90 you're exactly right brother they've been too many stories of people going to these little off the beaten path dealerships thinking they see a deal that they know when their heart something's wrong with this but they can't help themselves and then they're surprised when they find out they're screwed over like my fourth grade teacher told me it best if it seems too good to be true it usually is
dealership is in on it to
@@vel6979 They paid 24K including taxes, fees, prepaid insurance and extended warranties. The car only has 15K miles and it's also not a base model, so your comparison isn't accurate. It's basically a new car. Chicago sales tax is 10.25% so that "brand new base model Malibu" is already 25K. An extended warranty contract is usually several thousand. Registration, fees and prepaying on insurance could be another thousand or so. Cars don't actually cost the "sticker price" so they would have actually saved a few thousand buying this way ad getting a slightly used, higher trim model of Malibu.
Contract shouldn’t be valid and they should get all their money back.
Facts
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Like why wouldn’t they it’s the dealership fault they have a law suit
Exactly
Exactly. Dealership did not do their "due diligence". and should be forced to repay the entire amount the consumer paid.
Why not sue the dealer? They failed to inspect the title of incoming vehicles. They should responsible for all cost.
They should be shut down. They committed FRAUD for thousands of dollars.
As the cop said, the vehicle was reported stolen after the dealership purchased it so at the time that the dealership purchased the vehicle it was not reported stolen yet so the dealership was not at fault at the time that they purchased the vehicle. But from now on it should be in this dealerships best interest to check the nicb website at the time of every car sale to protect themselves from this kind of problem. This kind of incident is not good for a company name. But things like this can happen and it's not always the dealership or sellers fault. Incidents like this are bad not just for the buyer but also the seller. Saying the dealer is guilty in this case for selling the car is like saying the buyers are guilty for buying it and it's their fault that they bought a stolen car which was not the case. Just like the dealership could've checked the nicb website before selling the car, The buyers could've also checked the nicb website before purchasing the car preventing themselves from unknowingly purchasing a stolen car.
@@ronharris7964 wouldn't be surprised if they or one of their employees was in on it! The little guy always gets the shaft!
The dealer cannot be sued because nothing they did was actually illegal. The car was only reported stolen after they had performed the required law enforcement database check when they acquired it, but no second check is legally required when they sell it to a customer. Perhaps the law should be amended to require this second check to protect vehicle buyers and hold the dealer liable if a similar situation were to arise in the future?
The car had a clean title issued by the state. Dealer did nothing wrong and is not required to do police work or give out a $15k donation to the victim. Nice move on his end but he did nothing wrong and he wasn't required to take the L.
$15,000 screw that! Give me my money back!!!! Your dealership reputation is on the line....😠
Used car dealerships dont care about their own reputation.
Reputable used car salesman is a dead one!
Besides it’s not like they are going to gain popularity now that extra 9,000 dollars cause well thousands of people are watching this
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U should have gotten 100% back. So sorry sweety!!
In Europe if this happens the dealership has to return the money o the couple
They should have refused the partial payment and took it to court they kinda are stuck now because they accepted the partial payment smh
They did . you're an idiot if you think they paid it...
Why didn’t the dealership just give them another car & used the 9k as a down payment? Simple
If I were then I wouldn't want to purchase another car from that dealer... that may be the reason.
The dealer might also have ALL their other cars on hold to make sure those are not stolen. They might not want to get shut down if it happens again
Small dealer they are theives
EXACTLY!
That’s too much like right
The dealer knew exactly what they were doing.
scuba d...yep sounds like the dealership made a profit and the cops are incompetent to me. ($9,000 Scam))
@@wish1012 sure did!!!!
Conveniently change owners,huh
No way to know if that's true
@@roryh2241 this isn't the first time I hear about this.
*NO!*
The Dealer Is At Fault!
The Dealer Is responsible to for making sure the papers are right, *Not The Customer!*
The papers were right
@@sergiomolina8370 no the paper’s wasn’t....
@@sergiomolina8370 the papers were fake.
@@yanevaknow1017 they were right like the officer said it doesn’t tell you if it’s stolen when buying it
Time 1:37.... it was reported stolen late. There is no way anyone knew it was stolen.
The dealer played with negligence by not making sure the car was legal to sell. They can be sued for selling stolen goods.
Yes for fraud and misrepresentation
You can only be charged for selling stolen goods if your aware the goods your buying is stolen,but if you bought those goods in good faith then you cant be charged with any crime
The car had a clean title issued by the state. How is the dealer supposed to know? Not their job to do police work.
They said the car wasn't reported stolen until after the couple already bought it.
@@eddiejuma118 No it is their responsibility to investigate anything they purchase as stolen or not. There's a website that clearly shows that.
The DEALERSHIPS have to be held accountable, the have to check if a vehicle is stolen before any buying and especially selling ANY vehicle!
It wasn’t on the list yet when it was purchased
Obviously you don't listen. Maybe thats why people get ripped off.
Dealership should be responsible to repay the customer in full !
Exactly cause they were selling a stolen car
Just cause it’s a dealer and has a permit to sell doesn’t mean anything 💰 it all back
No
Do she have a GoFundMe? I'll donate.
They are out $9K and they did nothing wrong.
A “licensed” dealer isn’t required to check the nicb site to see if the car they’re selling could be stolen but the consumer is?
The consumer isn’t required either only if they want to
As far as I know selling stolen property is a crime... and ignorance is no excuse of the law.
Why the hell isn't a dealer legally required to check the database? What a joke.
They should be required to report the possession of any vehicle to the dmv even if they intend to re sell it.
@@ariash18able pretty sure they are required, this is shady work
That's the real crime here.
It was reported stolen after they received it
$24000 for a Malibu???? Damn. The dealer probably paid 6000. Then returned 15000 back to the customer. Sue the dealer.
Ya. A brand new Malibu Premier is like $30,000 . it's also a 2016 . at most it's worth $12000.
I agree, I would have sued the dealer. A partial payment is BS.
Frfr these cars go for 6-8k at most.
@@pottsby I agree. I would have refused the $15000 refund. that a insult in my book. !Wheres my 24000!😒
It probably had high mileage too! 😖 R.I.P. offs!
"so you were being treated like a criminal; how did that make you feel?"...like every other citizen when interacting with cops
Never pay 24,000 for a chevy malibu
On god for a Malibu in Chicago
Naw
Probably got it at an ungodly interest rate!!
Right! You can get these for 13k or less in MI
I bought a 2017 Malibu from Chevy dealership brand new for 22,000... those side dealerships is always a rip off
DUAL SCAM! The fact that they very much overpaid for it, when they could have gotten a new car instead for that price--even a new Camry! If not, they could've gotten 2 used cars! I don't expect everyone to understand car economics, so I feel so bad for them.
24k for Chevy? They deserve that car, get a Toyota for that price
@Im da Man90 exactly smh
@Kao Yang hahahaha!..... that's right, Scotty is a Toyota guy......lol.
A Lexus
That $15,000.00 check was hush money🤫
Well they sure didn’t hush😂
So then how about implementing the requirement that dealers check the VIN with NICB prior to the car being offered on the lot since they’re not currently! Not the customer! That is absolutely insane.
Exactly!!!
Exactly that's not the customers job to make sure it's not stolen
They financed this car.. the loan is in their name. Dealership responsibility. Unwind the whole thing to make the consumer whole. If not they need to sue.
If they financed the vehicle the check for $15k would have gone straight to the finance company.
did they detain the owner and salespeople at the dealership for 8 hours?
Update:
Since then, the dealership returned $15,000 of the money as a "good faith payment" to the couple, stating they're doing that even though they did nothing wrong and the dealership's insurance company paid the remaining $9,000 to the couple making the whole again.
love to hear that
Much respect for both entities, who made things right.
That shit don't make sense. How do you get credit on a fake ID. And a lien is not the same as theft.
The lien was fraudulently obtained so yes it is theft
@@SundayCookingRemix Lien is a mere claim that can be disputed.
My Father’s car was stolen at the country club parking lot. Two weeks later, it was located in Newark, NJ. His sound system or something was missing out of the vehicle so the car was towed to the BMW dealership to get repaired... where it was stolen for the second time! Yes... my dads car was stolen for the second time within two weeks at the dealership. They offered my dad a “amazing deal” on a new car. He didn’t tell me what he paid. Other than it was an “amazing deal”. My dad is cheap af so it must’ve been good.
Lauren Christie I heard Newark is notoriously known to have high rates of car theft. Not surprised it was found there.
You gotta watch these fly by night "dealerships". They do all kinds of crooked deals, then change "ownership" to avoid responsibility. If it hasn't been in business for at least 7 years don't deal with it.
this should be top comment big bro
Facts
The state should pay the other $9k. The states issue the title.
Tips: this how you get a car off credit 😂 a 600 credit line and fake id 🤷🏾♂️
Put me on game sun
@@asiatic_african they just gave you the sauce
This happened to me when I was 18. My parents bought me a car after getting my license. Repo guy came and was very aggressive telling us the car was late on payments from the dealership. We showed him paper work that stated otherwise. His attitude changed and explained to us what had possibly happened. It's crazy.
Their insurance co the business should had refunded the whole amount. That is the purpose of having insurance.
should *have
So is the dealership still expecting for the person that they sold the car to also pay? If the got the money from insurance company for loss than that is fraud to me.
The car dealership’s insurance awarded the dealership $15K for the dealership’s loss, which the dealership forwarded to the couple as an act of good faith. However, the couple had $9k in negative equity on their car. The couple’s only recourse is to ask the finance company to forgive the $9k. Otherwise, the couple will have a $9k charge off on their credit or a court judgment against them, if the finance company decides to sue. Don’t shop at those corner car dealerships!
Absolutely! Only go to credible, official dealerships with companies that have been around for a while
They didn't finance the vehicle. If they did she would not have received the $15k check it would have gone straight to the finance company.
@@BrianTrimble finance contract at 0:47
@@alfredvalrie5541 ? No it isn't. That's the purchase agreement with the dealership. If they financed the car the check would go straight to the finance company from the dealership because the finance company would be the "legal" title holder.
They paid with cash or a check for the entire amount. That's why she received the check.
@@BrianTrimble Brian, the dealer has the choice of refunding the finance company or the buyer. In this case, they chose to refund the purchaser. Title reflects the owner and lien holder. Only insurance companies refund lien holders because it is a custom for insurance companies to indemnify financiers.
Chevy Malibu - the only car that makes you look rich AND poor at the same time.
Someone gotta lose their life behind $24,000.
THE DEALSHIP IS AT FAULT!! They have all these tips for customers not to buy stolen cars, how about dealerships be more proficient and not SELL stolen cars?
$24,000 for a Malibu? That might be the real crime here.
Did you not hear they included taxes registration and their extended warranty.
@@jaysmith3778 That's still too much. There are better options for that amount.
I have driven that car before... That's a fully loaded Chevrolet Malibu... Premier Edition, it has a 2.0 Turbo engine, Self parking assist... Heated steering wheel and heated leather seats, panaramic sun roof, navigation, lane keep, collision warning, blind spot indicators, and adaptive cruise control,... That's why it cost so much... That's the top of the line 2016 - 2017 model.... I love it too!
Dealership: "we're victims too".
Also Dealership: keeps $9k of victim's money.
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Just goes to show you how fast cars depreciate. Worst investment ever.
@@bryantlarios1459 - no, he meant cars depreciate quickly. Not that specifically fast cars depreciate quickly.
$24,000 for a used 2016 Chevy Malibu? That's a scam in itself. That car, no matter how little miles or how loaded it is, isn't worth that much.
It's not a dealership. It's a fly by night used car lot.
Every other case I have ever seen like this, they would end up keeping the car, because they bought it in good faith.
This sounds like these folks got screwed
The dealership needs to give them back all of their money, any fees included also...they knew it was stolen!!!
I’m amazed at the creativity and intelligence of some criminals. Imagine what they could accomplish if honest?
Sounds like that license dealership needs to be arrested for receiving stolen goods and forced to refund their money
*That dealership OWES that couple all of their money back, period!* 😡
The bank is at fault. The dealership is at fault. Lot of shady business dealings.
Wow! 💔 I hope they’re compensated for their time, pain, and are blessed in the future! ❤️🙏
Dealership knew what was going on crooks
Never buy the extended warranty.
What if your engine or transmission dies soon after leaving the lot ? Buy the extended warranty and then cancel
@@nomfpermission In my state there is a lemon law. Depending on miles the warranty is between 30 to 90 days . When they sell you one of those extended deals they are betting that you won't need it. Free cash for them
Correct "Never"
TAKE THEM TO JUDGE JUDY.!
Its over $5k...Thats small claims court
@@marcuslane3 Is that for IL? NY goes up to $10k. Still not enough for the victims, but I was taken aback by that $5k lol That's nothing
Why don’t dealers have to check the site🤬
Most dealers dont "own" their titles, banks do. Most dealers have never seen a title, just a copy for records.
stop buying from a buy here pay here car lot! everybody gets burned in one way or the other from these lots.
Only if they dont pay attention.
Something similar happened to me. I went to buy a car after I paid for the car. I asked why is it taking so long. They said the car was already sold. So it took 2 hours for them to straighten things out.
Sounds like several people are at fault. Most used car lots dont "OWN" their titles, a bank does. They should sue, they'll get a lot more than 24k.
That's crazy
*dealers do not have to check the site* right there got me lol
The dealership should have to take the loss and give them back all of their money. The dealer may be a victim but they should of done their research and called the lender about the legitimacy of the payoff letter.
“The computers,sometimes they won’t catch it”. Who programs the computers?
Poor folks that this happened too.hope they get justice
Thanks for the good info!
That dealership is 100% accountable and should have refunded the entire amount they need to get a lawyer and sue the dealership for selling them a stolen car I smell a rat here and it’s the dealership
Yep n they cant seem to figure out why carjackings are so high...🙄
EXACTLY. I PREFER A WELL-USED BLACK 4-DOOR MERCEDES-BENZ OVER A BRAND NEW BLACK 4-DOOR MERCEDES-BENZ. BECAUSE, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SMELL OF A WELL-USED BLACK 4-DOOR MERCEDES-BENZ. NO JOKE.
Something is very wrong with that state's government and car dealerships when they fail to check if a car is stolen before selling stolen merchandise on their car lots.
This is too simple. They should get all of their money back that they spent out of their pocket. They should’ve never been held in jail for anywhere close to eight hours. They should’ve never been locked up once they showed that the car was in their name. So the problem is all the way around with the dealership and the police department who held them so long for this. And the bank who owned the car probably should’ve re-purposed the car to them if they still want it
That's ridiculous the dealership number one is responsible.
Partial refund? HELL NO they have to give back ALL of the money or be sued. I don't care if the dealership is a victim too they made a deal with the customer on that car so they HAVE to give a full refund.
@@wolfpackflt670
Lol
Calm down cowboy🤠
I didn't say partial refund I said dealership is responible number one!
At no point did I hear the police apologize to the couple after keeping them for 8 hours and learning they did nothing wrong. Did you?
They shouldnt have to. Its the judicial process...duh...lol
@@jasonmefford4312 Wrong.
@@TheFadingTheory ok, then whats the time limit by law? Hint: there isnt...
"you were treated like a criminal, how did that make you feel?"
Like I won the lottery.... Duh🤦🏼♀️
That is so messed up. You work hard to have a decent car and it is stolen. Crazy!
They were all too happy to detain them and probably didn't properly apologize
Sure, the dealership could’ve done a better job, but what about the bank and Chevy dealer that gave away the car to people with fake identification and then failed to report it as stolen?
Dealers not required to check if the car is stolen, but the buyer is encouraged to check. WOW
Thats crazy , these scams are outta control
First problem: they bought it at one of those rinky-dinky dealerships, not a big boy legit dealership. Don’t go to those small places.
Yea that 9k they out of us what the dealer paid for that shit box
The dealership should be responsible for the entire refund.
The dealership should be responsible just like a pawn shop would be.
That is one of the reason you buy from a dealer.
That's sum bullshit! How that happen?
So i guess there is a benefit of buying brand new whips🤔
WHAT'S A BRAND NEW WHIP?
@@TLJAWSIMIB A car lol.
CANT TRUST ANYONE
N THAT'S SAD.
CONGRATS ANYWAY U BOTH WILL GETTER BETTER N GREATER.. BLESSINGS
What a shame...can't even imagine. Life is so unfair so sometimes
I think it was a blessing in disguise since that car is a POS. Probably would of broken down a year later.
Ya I can’t imagine paying so much for a Malibu. Just get a cheap reliable Honda.
I thought they financed the car! They are very lucky to get 15k back! That’s all that used car is worth Any ways if that! I’m thinking 10 or 11k
I'm sorry 🙏 they went thru that, dnt worry God will give u something better 🙏❣️💞
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Wow. I went through something that bordered on this. I had a 2015 Malibu, paid for it out of pocket, 30 days later, I was pulled over because the vehicle was registered under someone else. After a good 15-20 minutes of my time wasted, I was eventually let go. I gave the constable the works, licence (I have a CDL), registration, insurance, even the receipt that PROVED that I paid for the car. I knew the Malibu was popular, but I didn’t know it was that hot. The officer apologized and we went our separate ways. That was very unfortunate what happened to the engaged couple, I hoped they FULLY recovered from this travesty.
That whole debacle could’ve been squashed if the dealerships had done their homework on the vehicles that they receive. They’re most definitely at fault for this negligence.
Hey hey hey !!! that’s 15,000 is prolly blue book value.
How the hell they get 24 grand
??? Are you trying to say all black people are in poverty?
@@pastathemechanic7536 yes
@@Freddy_Confetti you have a fucked up way of thinking buddy.
Work
Don’t tell me your talking shit w that shit box you call a truck
"The dealer is under new ownership," you say. Are you 100% certain of that? Continuing to operate under the same LLC keeps that dealership on the hook.
I would be suing that car lot for the rest of my money and pain and suffering
Similar thing happened to me. I bought a stolen car. I filed a complaint with Magistrate, state police. I got my money back.
State police arrested the guy who sold me the car and his father(the notary). They also arrested the Magistrate.
This is crazy
If a person buy a stolen vehicle they're charged for receiving stolen property why exempt car dealerships? This seem to be a bigger underline issue here because dealerships are not required to check the site for cars that are stolen, the Secretary of state have done nothing. This is mind boggling.
SOS and dealership should be responsible for all financial coverage and damages caused by their negligence.
“Sometimes the computers don’t catch it” probably because you’re using Windows XP😂
This is a clear breach of contract by the dealership. They misrepresented and sold a vehicle that they didn't actually own.
The professionals should be on the hook for the money: THEY sold it. They should also be required to go to the national website to verify they have the right to sell the car.
Same thing happened when I bought a Camaro at a dealership and it took 14 years to clear up!
DAMN. THAT'S FUCKING INSANE
There should be safeguards against this!
The dealerships should be required to check the website for stolen vehicles first before they buy or sell a car
Dealers need to go onto that site to investigate to ensure they're not buying stolen property to avoid that kind of issue and get the crooks, if property is stolen, behind bars right where they belong.
SUE the dealership...! They have insurance and they’re liable for its consumers! The news even reported that the dealership is turning it over to their insurance to be made whole for the TRUE value of the car.. AND any extended warranty is prorated anyway!