My friend's car was STOLEN, and reported. But a year later, they came after him to make him pay a bunch of tickets they put on it when they found it instead of recovering it for him.
Had a car parked on the side of the road for a week. Many cops came by because they put those stickers on it. Well as the 2nd week came through some people decided to scrap as much as they could from that vehicle along with smashing and destroying it. The cops just came by to put more stickers on the car where ever they could because the windows were gone. Eventually they got it. But why did it take soo long? A lot of cars are stolen and left like that.
It's not their job to recover your car. They find it, the search for illegal things they call the owner and usually say to pick it up within the time it takes them to do the report .if you cannot it gets towed. They don't bother to call if the car is totalled they just tow it 🤷
"our hands are tied" so even if it is proven to you that she is no longer the owner and has not been for over a year they will still go after her because a citation was issued? Just goes to show you its about the money not the prevention of crime.
They can dismiss the tickets on the grounds that she is not the current owner regardless of what a computer screen says and because they can not locate the actual owner. That's what they can do instead of punishing people they know for a fact did nothing wrong. They act like the ticket is carved in stone and must be paid no matter the circumstance and that's complete bullshit.
Not saying Not saying They speak to the court about the circumstance and ask that they dismiss it upon obvious grounds that the original owner was found to be no longer responsible for the vehicle.
Mr Eboric ok? Police still have a job to do, it's not their fault that the car is still registered to them, they pretty much don't have a choice on what to do.
Darren Coghlan Nissan’s are only reliable when they don’t break down. Let’s be honest. To be fair, I think Nissan makes nice looking and fun to drive vehicles. But ever since Nissan merged with Renault in the early 2000’s, there have been some build quality issues and many other types of issues with Nissan’s and Infiniti’s. Other than that, I like Nissan and Infiniti vehicles. They’re cool looking and fun to drive. Just don’t think that the build quality is any better than Ford, Honda and Toyota however. 😅
Almost same thing happened to me, donated a car to Salvation Army, they sold it and it was never taken out of my name. New owner racked up hundreds of bucks in tickets. One morning the police knocked on my door to arrest me for outstanding tickets. Luckily I had a copy of my act of donation. A month latter the Salvation Army called me trying to get me to claim the car because it had been towed and impounded and the new purchaser could not get it because they never titled it. Told them to pack sand!
um no, they did there job, look the stupid thing is EVERYONE did there job EXCEPT the guy that bought the car. The state can't personally go and monitor every freaking vehicle sale to ensure the buyer registers. The dealer/auction house cant follow the buyer there and ensure he does. It's the buyer that broke the law by failing to register it. in fact everything mostly ended fine lol. She had to stop by the DMV and and the courthouse but the ticket went away and now the impound lot is going to take care of transfer of title and no doubt simply scrap it.
My father sold a truck. The guy never registered. It got towed. The CHP saw that he was the last registered owner and said he could get back if he paid the fees,. But sine he filed the proper paper work he was not liable for the fees.
I went through a similar situation back in 1997 here in Louisiana. I had traded a 1991 Camaro for a 1995 Astro van (3 kids showed up during that time period). Two years later, I get the sheriff's department show up at my house with a warrant for failure to show up in court for a traffic accident and various parking fines in Mississippi. I had to call the courts in Mississippi to explain that I no longer owned the car since it was a trade-in on a new vehicle. Luckily I still had all the paperwork from the purchase which included information on my trade-in (make, model, VIN) which I faxed over to the courts. I figured the courts would see that the local dealership accepted the car. NO! I needed the dealership to contact the courts. I had to threaten to sue the dealership for them to contact the courts to get it straight. It seemed the dealership had sent the car to an auction house without doing any title transfer. The car was auctioned off, and the auction house showed the car had been sold at auction. PERIOD! No idea who bought it. They just took the cash and handed over the signed title and a general bill of sale for the new owner to register it. Everything perfectly legal, except the new owner failed to register it. The Camaro had gotten several tickets for illegal parking in Mississippi all within a 35 mile radius and a warrant from the county to have it towed on the next ticket. Then someone driving got into a hit-and-run accident that put somebody in the hospital, and it was caught on video tape and by witnesses. The car had been abandoned several blocks away in an alley. No plates. No driver. That's where I come in. I was the last registered owner according to the state of Louisiana. And had to spend my TIME and MONEY to get it straightened out. Since then I kept all paperwork whenever I traded in a car for a new one until I got rid of the vehicle. And I made sure that the information on my trade-in included the VIN and the dealership name on it. JD
It's your job to send in the release of liability for the cars you sell. Why would you sell anything in your name and not make sure your name isn't attached 😕🤔. If I was the dealer and you threatened me I would have told you to fuck yourself. It's not up to them to do your paperwork. Dealerships never have their name on cars. No transfer is required to sell a car at auction.
That one guy just solved her "problem". He said, once someone takes ownership of a vehicle, it's their responsibility to register it. RELIABLE to8k ownership of it (from her). It's RELIABLE's problem now.
I would have sued the dealer in small claims for the maximum as to file is cheap and let the Judge figure it out. Reliable should be at fault as they took it for trade in. What happens next shouldn't be on the old owner as it's out of their hands.
Meeker Extreme the MVP knows the car was sold to Reliable. It's the National Database that never gets the updates. The auction house should be required to update the instant they sold the car. Figure out who bought the car from the auction house and prevent them from buying any car in the future.
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't ya? The car was traded in, therefore the liability falls onto Reliable Nissan. They took possession of it making them the new owners. Because they failed to register it with the state isn't the woman's fault nor do you have to be an asshole to Edward.
posting id ● I very, very rarely do this, but, for you, I've decided to make an exception. I guess you're yhe one who isn't too bright. If you have any third or fourth graders around you, ask them to read my original comment. You'll see that I said it was Reliable's problem. So, "posting id", stop looking at the water in your toilet when trying to come up with a name to call them. All you'll see there is an asshole's reflection.
They are just hounding her because she has money and can pay fines, and they lost track of the new owner, imo. They know they can't get money out of the bum who didn't register it.
@@mikewhitaker2880 i tell them it not my damn car anymore i sold it to this place at a car lot they fail to change it off from my name there for im NOT pay shit & u cant make me so i see ur ass in court & i sue
How did the dealership give this car to another entity to be sold at auction without having a clear title? I would think the car had to be registered to the dealership before it could then be sold at auction. Seems like a couple steps were skipped.
Hi in reply to the theft comment sometimes it's because someone doesn't file paper work with the DMV for a clean title so that is how the bank is on the title even though everything is paid. So the bank usually can do another lien release and the new owner can get a different title (not always and it's a process)
Maybe I can shed some light on this. I bought a car from a used dealership and asked why the title was in the previous owner's name still, the gentleman explained the process. Basically, they take the signed title, and put their dealership name on the title, but don't file it. Now, they can drive/move the car with a dealer plate. This means they don't have to pay sales tax and title fees when 'buying' the car from you, where a private sale would require that. Then, when they sell the car, they make out a bill of sale from the dealership to the buyer, as well as a title transfer, from the dealership to the buyer. This is perfectly legal, it's a process so dealerships don't have to pay hundreds on title fees/sales tax that would cut into their profit. Again, none of this gets filed with the dealership UNTIL the newest buyer goes to the registry and hands in the paperwork. The registry looked at all this paperwork I had, and said everything was good and I registered the car as if I had bought it private sale. ONLY dealerships can 'sign over' signed titles. A private party can't do that, it's considered floating a title and illegal. Unfortunately stuff like this can happen since according to the DMV, the car is still in the first owner's name. The dealership keeps a record of cars they buy and sell, but it's more for tax purposes, and aren't required to update the registry that a car was traded in.
@@Kajacot that's not illegal. I bought and sold 1 car 7 times in a year it was never in my name until I finally sent it to the junkyard who would only pay the registered owner. I had all the receipts for each person who bought it. Not illegal to float a title. It is illegal to attempt to erase the floated names from records. $15 for each time it was sold. I made $11k off that car that cost me $900. And then the junkyard paid me $750 more. That's why I was willing to pay $15 7x
I had a friend who got into Meth in the 1990's. I tried helping her and I gave her my Geo Metro and told her to turn the title over. She didn't, but I did turn in the report of sale. It saved me a bunch of parking tickets etc. The city of Seattle tried making me pay, but my Report Of Sale saved me.
New mexico mvd does it again!!! I had a similar experience, but the parking ticket I got was for a whopping 350 dollars!! I managed to get the ticket dropped but not before tracking down the old tags! In texas, the tag goes with the vehicle sale, but new mexico is different. That department is so screwed up, and has been for more than 20 years!! Don't they think it might be time to fix it?
Same in AZ. Here, the vehicle would be titled in the dealer's name as soon as they got it, then the auction house's name as soon as they got it, unless it was an auction where they were selling it on the dealer's behalf, but either way, in order to pick it up, it would have to be titled by whoever takes it from auction. It might not be REGISTERED, but registration doesn't show ownership anyway, that's what the TITLE is for, or at least, it's supposed to be. And, in AZ, once you file a sold notice with the MVD, you don't have anything to do with it. NM has a lot of odd things with their laws, though, it seems. I got pulled over in Rio Rancho once and they told me my license was suspended but that they were letting me off with a verbal warning. (What?) When I checked with AZ, everything was fine and it had never been suspended. Dunno if the police have a crappy system there or if they just make up things to justify pulling people over.
they actually are very corrupt in new mexico. cops make up shit all the time. every once in a while ill find a vloggers video they made while passing thru that state. the video will just be about whatever then in the middle they get stopped by 5-0 and accused of $1,000's worth of offenses. if they had a camera on themselves and or the road they usually can call the cops bluff and be on their way but otherwise few get to pass thru corrupt NM for free. id like to visit all 50 states but some i think ill just stay the hell out of. take my tourist dollars elsewhere.
Same in Ohio, all vehicles are titled through the title department and to transfer title you go to the title department, sign the back and they issue a new title to the new owner. You can just sign the title and give it to the new owner and its their responsibility to get a new title, but that makes it easier for something like this video to happen. Unless you have proof like a picture of the signed title or get it notarized. I can't believe a dealer or auctioneer would buy or sell a vehicle without transferring the title.
That exact same thing happened to me a few months ago. I traded my car to San Diego Toyota and leased a new one. About a month later I got a ticket in the mail for unpaid toll charges. I sent them the information about the vehicle sale. OOPS. Another month later I get a second toll ticket. I called the San Diego Toyota and they in essence said there was nothing they could do about it. I am pissed off. DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM SAN DIEGO TOYOTA. Their customer service in this regard SUCKS!
I went through something like this with the state of Virginia. In 2010 I moved, registered my vehicles in a new state, turned in old Virginia tags to the Virginia DMV, new insurance for a new state.... Whole 9 yards. I didn’t even own any of the vehicles after 2014. 7 years later in another new state clear across the country I get a paycheck that was over $1400 short. Come to find out my check was GARNISHED by Virginia for unpaid taxes for the years 2011-2017! They were able to find my new employer, yet they couldn’t figure out my vehicles hadn’t been registered in Virginia for 7 years.... Go figure!!!! After about 2 months of phone calls and run arounds they gave me all but $30 ($15/year for my oldest car) back saying I still owed money on a car that was crushed at a junk yard in 2012, which was over 2 years after i sold it to the junk yard in the 1st place. And when I tried to explain to them the time frame and process required to crush a car they still made me pay for those 2 years worth of taxes on it up until the day it was crushed! Fortunately I make enough where i still had enough money where i really didn’t get but so upset about it. Unbelievable. I wonder when that state will get their shit together. The
I had same issue with a car I traded in. But was in a wreck when it fell off a dealership semi. I think dealerships need to report a VIN as soon as they get it. Be nice too if our Bureaucracy would move up with the times aswell. Shouldn't take 3 months for paperwork to go through the dmv. Yet our state officials want raises lol.
take a picture of the title when you sign it over to anyone just in case they don't go to the title agency right away that way you have proof of day of sale
Very odd. I had a similar thing happen in Washington State. Sold my junker at a yard sale, being sure to fill out the form on the back of the registration and sent it in as required. Got a call a month later from the State Patrol because "my" car had been abandoned on the freeway and was in impound. I informed them of the sale and told them I had sent in the paperwork. They thanked me for the information and that was the end of the matter for me. Since the New Mexico motor vehicle people apparently have the record of her trading the car to Nissan they shouldn't have bothered her after that.
How ridiculous! 1 of those ONLY in America stories. Feel sorry for that lady, she traded her car in good faith, and the car dealer was lazy in retiring or taking over the registration until it was resold!
I heard they aren't responsible to do the paperwork, but can it be requested? I would tell the sales manager it's part of the deal of me buying the car, and I'm happy to shop else where that will fill out the correct papers. It's required in Michigan, an I tell the mangt that I want a document within 24hrs of trading the vehicle, something that shows that car is now registered to the dealer.
Same happened to me in a way. Did a trade in deal on a new car and was contacted by the person who had purchased the traded car at auction 9 months later. Undoubtedly this person had been driving the car for at least 8 months while it was still in my name. He said he had lost the title and needed my help now getting it transferred into his name and now registration was due. I do believe he would have driven it longer before contacting me if not for that. The dealership never transferred it from my name. Called the salesman, who still remembered me, and let him know I wasn't happy....very loudly....very very loudly I let him know.
This happened to me. I traded my 2004 Mustang to Leta Ford in Chesterfield, Missouri. Two months later I got a nasty letter from St. Louis, about my "abandoned vehicle." After research, I found that the dealership NEVER contacted the state to change ownership. Exact same setup...the VIN was identical.
2:47 WTF how broken is their system. She doesn't own the car but because she was the last person to own the car the system defaults to her. Dafu. 2:55 This guy is a tool. It's not registered to her as she has all of the documents proving a "bill of sale" Furthermore this is hiding a much bigger problem. Most likely the person who bought had the intent to use it for criminal activity, so they used falsified documents when purchasing the vehicle. However this is not the problem, the problem is when the DMV or what not tried to verify the falsified documents they couldn't, and instead of filling a report, about the use of fake legal documents, they just rolled the owner ship back to the last known owner. The police should track down that employee and give them a what for, since I would wager that they could be charged with Negligence, Aiding and Abetting, and Impeding a Criminal Investigation.
What I don't get is why they're ignoring the vehicle's title. It might not have been registered, but the owner on the title should change every time someone takes ownership of the vehicle. Well, at least, that's how it works in AZ. NM is kind of strange, though.
I don't understand why the United States can't or won't organize thinks properly. So simple here in Canada. You sell/ trade in a vehicle it is then delisted from your ownership info. Logical. For a country whom claims it is the best in the world it sure doesn't hold up to its claims.
simplesimon640 Unfortunately, motor vehicle laws are dictated by the states. So different states will have different laws pertaining to vehicle ownership and registration.
simplesimon640 You live in a country that has less population than Texas... Much easier to keep everything organized. We are a Republic of Independent States. Our Constitution gives authority to the Federal Government. For specific things. All else stays in the hands of State Govt. Including vehicle registration and plates.. etc. Obviously New Mexico is not very organized... Some others are very organized.. it just depends on where you live.
All bureaucratic systems rely on people doing their job. It could be the most simple or the most complex organization if one person doesn't do their job or makes a mistake there will be a problem. Anything designed or organized by humans is imperfect because man is imperfect.
Here, once you sell or trade a vehicle, that person has 60 days to get it out of your name... Plus, its illegal to take a vehicles title, with the original owners signature on it and sell it to someone else... Thats Title Jumping...
Flippin Fast in finland there's one week time to register vehicle to own name that why we do on top of title paper that has buyer's name, sosial number, vehicle information so on
Title jumping is good old American capitalism at its finest ! Nothing wrong with it . Only reason it's illegal is the damn state feels like every owner no matter how short term should pay a years worth of property taxes (at least here in MO) ... I'll only buy a vehicle if the old owner will leave the signatures open , usually all I'm doing is flipping for profit anyways ... Fuck the tax man ...
I agree with you on that. We do not have property tax on cars here in NM. Other than sales tax of the vehicle and yearly or 2 year registration. I swear if they did I would kill me some law makers. Bullshit laws and taxes.
You absolutely have to fill out a separate form and send it in to the state. In every state. I just traded my car in with the same dealership, and I still came home and filled out the TX form and sent it in.
Here in Georgia if you give notice to the tag office that you sold the vehicle, they do change the record so law enforcement knows that the vehicle was sold and the registration canceled. The VIN will still show the previous owner until the new owner registers it but at least they know its not theirs anymore.
Something similar happened to a friend of mine. He actually sold his car to a guy who answered his craigslist ad. He signed the release of liability sent it to the DMV and thought that was it. A year later a towing company wanted to charge him $1,000 in fees. Says the car was abandoned and DMV records show he was the last registered owner. He called the DMV which confirmed the release of liability was signed and he had no obligation to pay any tickets or fees associated with that car. The towing company had to kick rocks and get their money somewhere else since the guy who had originally bought the car never registered it under his name.
Yup just like the DMV to mishandle this. My brother tried updating information on his vehicles 4 times when he was out of state in the military. Twice electronically and twice by mail but only 1 of his vehicles updated. SImilar issue occurred with me. I only tried 3 times though in the past year and still cant get the address changed to the correct one on 1 of my vehicles my second vehicle finally updated on the second try. will try a 4th time on the first vehicle. It is an electric car so it hurts my utility bill because i cant sign up for prime electrical rates until the car is registered to my current address.
Only half listened in the background to this, but seems to be making too big a deal. I had this happen to me. Sold a car privately, 6 years later got a parking ticket in the mail for it. Once I figured out what was going on, I ran the Carfax then went to court to dispute it. Explained I didn't own it. Judge asked for proof. I provided the Carfax that showed it registered in the next state (but never here, which is how the vin linked to me). He looked at it, said DOT screwed up, case dismissed.
She signed paperwork when she traded in the car to “reliable “Nissan. It sounds like good old pass the buck. The people who should be doing something are doing their best Sergeant Schultz line of “I know nothing “.
Years ago I consigned on a car loan and got the car removed from my name when the car was paid off or so I thought but the car is still showing in my name again. Looks I'll have to do it again. The car was either wrecked or sold years ago.
I've been having a similar problem I traded a 1989 Ford E-350 Van for a 2000 BMW the new owner of the Van drove it out to California and has not gotten it registered into her name and has already received Parking tickets from Alahumbra CA. and LA CA. Both of which sent me the tickets. I sent them both back the released documents from the DMV here in Oklahoma which I had the buyer sign and notarized thru the DMV here. I also included a letter telling them the next time it's ticketed they should just tow it seeing the new owner see,s to have no intention of registering it in their name and more than likely won't show up for the tickets and that it is no longer my problem as I have a signed release for the vehicle.
I sold a truck, the buyer did not reregister it, instead he hit a little girl on a bicycle and ran. the cops caught him and charged me... Luckily I had a bill of sale showing the buyers name and signature. I also had a RELEASE OF LIABILITY RECEIPT from Dmv. This proved that I am not liable for anything involving that truck. Years later i see that truck and the guy I sold it to driving around. Go figure???
This is no joke I sold a van to a salvage yard 14 yrs ago every year I get the registration in the mail saying if the vehicle is to remain non op do nothing,I've filled out the paperwork 5 times at the dmv and still nothing has changed
Strange arrangement in USA. Here in the UK, the registration plate (generally) stays with the car for its entire life. Once you sell a car, you declare that to the DVLA and it stops being your problem. Any unregistered or uninsured cars quickly appear on ANPR cameras and are taken off the road. Isn't that fairly simple?
I assume that plate sin Britain stay the same when transferring the car between England, Scotland and Wales. Here in the U?S. each state has their own plates that they issue, so if she was to sell the car, she doesn't know if the car is going to the same state. Because of that, the plate stays with the owner not the car.
same with me. I donated a car to one of these groups that ask you to donate an unwanted car. One year later I received a phone call from the Portland, Or police impound lot saying that they have my car, because it was found abandoned on the side of a road. The ppl they gave the car to never changed the plate or registration. I informed them (the impound lot person) that they can keep it, and then gave them the number to the group I donated it to. I never heard back from the PD after that.
In our town you report a abandoned vehicle it gets towed within a day or 2 they will contact the owner to see if they still own it if they say no off to the crusher
I sold my van 12 years ago I still get registration notice from the DMV I filed sale papers with the DMV 7 times it's been junked but they keep sending me renewal notices in the mail.
I bought a car back in 2002. The title had been signed a total of six times between dealers across different states without anyone ever registering it with a DMV. It was a nightmare for me to register it because my DMV wanted a bill of sale from the last person to register it.
I know this is an old story/video. I'm confused on something. When she traded it in. Doesn't that now make the dealership the NEW owner, and shouldn't they then be required to register the vehicle? Just from an insurance pov. Before they sent it to auction a customer comes in takes it for a test drive has an accident...don't they need to be the registered owner for coverage?
I traded in a 2004 Chevrolet Tracker on a 2015 Toyota Corolla in December 2019. When I renewed the Corolla's registration, I was asked if I was renewing the registration on both vehicles. Fortunately, the current owner of the Tracker hasn't created any problems for me.
What I don't understand is when the auction company sold the car do they not keep records of who they sold it too. Because they have to sign the title over to someone.
Seven years ago we sold our van to a guy that exports cars to Mexico. We still get recall notices from the manufacturer because the car was never re-registered in the USA.
Done 101 In this case, she did everything right. Due to a crazy loophole in NM's motor vehicle codes, the dealer nor the auction house had any responsibility to have the vehicle registered. As such, the vehicle continued to be registered under her name since the shady new owners mever registered the vehicle after acquiring it. This all occured despite the various physical transfers of title and the old owner filing a Bill of Sale and vehicle sale with the MVD. If there's anyone to blame in this matter, it's the state for continuing to allow this crazy loophole to continue. But let's face it, no MVD employee is motivated enough to enact any actual change. And no politician will care because such change would not be massive enough to generate votes or create any profit for themselves.
If the vehicle has been sold then it is the responsibility of the buyer to ensure it is registered. That is what the attorney say at the 3:45 mark. Well, a trade in is legal a sale. The dealer is legally buying the vehicle from the customer so that means the dealer is responsible for getting it registered. Since the seller still has the paperwork showing when and to whom it was sold, then go after the buyer, here being the dealership, for failure to register the vehicle.
3:00 Yeah right you have discretion when it comes to assessing fines. You and your buddies simply don't care because you guys figured that the person would just fork over the 90$ to get rid of the headache.
this happend to a friend of mine, someone went GTA in a truck he traded in and his insurance went up for traffic offences he wasnt a part of... gotta love bureaucracy in action
The Dealer never did any paper work with the State Im sure, It cost me 2500 bucks to learn my Lesson on selling a car with out having the buyer providing a photo ID, signing the title as buyer dating it, filling out a Bill of sale having them sign it, photo copy both. Sold a car with out doing this car ended up in TX in a bad accident in which they came after me, the 2,500 is what I had to pay a Lawyer to take care of it, learned from my State what I should have done because a lot of people will just put on a set of plates from another car and drive it.
It’s simple, the dealer who bought from Mannheim should have record of who they sold the car to and will have a sale contract on record. It’s really simple to trace it if they want to clear the mess.
This happened to me back in 2001. Sold a car private party sale turned in a release of liability to the DMV immediately and for about a year and to two years I would get calls and letters from tow companies about it. Told I sold it not my problem.
The car dealership and the auction house have to save sales contracts for several years after the sale by law. The auction house will have a sales contract showing who bought the vehicle and that person signed paperwork that identifies them as the owner. The state should be required by law to track down and hold responsible that person or require by law that auction houses turn in signed over titles of sold vehicles for registration into the purchaser's name and charge the purchaser a fee for it.
I would send their letter back to them, with a fee schedule of what they now owe me for responding to them, and notifying them that they will publish a formal written apology acknowledging that they were willfully engaged in extortion and that that has been corrected, or else they WILL be charged in court with extortion and criminal negligence. No one is above the law!
Thing of the past in my state. Now all titles have a tear-off that is signed by the purchaser. Cost me $200 several years ago for the same type of situation. Now, It'll cost you the price of a stamp to mail it, or a trip to the DMV. Once it's sold (and you've done your due diligence after) NOT your problem!
When I sell a car to someone I not only generate a bill of sale for them but also for my own records with both names (seller and buyer as well as home addresses). That way if they don't register the car and something happens to it I can prove I sold it to that person on that day. Their name and signature in on my original copy of the bill of sale.
Filed a “ notice of sale “ with DMV..... NO PLATE... tow to impound...An national auction company doesn’t secure information on who buys the vehicle ?...That Explorer has a shady, to very dark past from the day the Nissan dealer accepted the trade !
Something like that happened to me, years ago. I signed a title, gave it to my boyfriend cause he was supposed to sell the car. He sold it, kept the money, neither he nor new owner filed any paperwork! So I had no idea who he sold it to, hesitated to report it stolen, yet even going to a lawyer couldn't get the DMV to take it out of my name. They said they had to transfer it into someone's name to do that. I never heard anything, but they did create a file in my name in case the car showed up. What I don't get is how the new owners managed without any documentation, and what finally happened to the car.
soo problem solved, car is being towed, she no longer has to pay any fees. (towing company says itself if she does not pay, she does not want the car anymore)
In my state there is a law that when a title changes ownership, that it must be registered within 10 days. If the car dealership failed to obey the law, then they should be sued and fined.
almost similar situation (in cali) that happened to my hubby, except he was TOTALLY STUPID at fault. he sold his car to a "friend" but never did a bill of sale and never notified the DMV. his "friend" sold it to somebody else without reg the car to his name. new owner doesn't register the car in his name also. months later, we get a bill from a towing company for $1k. car was abandoned on side of freeway and still reg to my hubby. tow co. says if we get bill of sale from 1st buyer, they'll bill the other guy. hubby doesn't want to "bother" his "friend" and ends up paying the $1k. told you my hubby dumb. extremly good guy, but dumb...... & this ain't the first "friend" that's screwed him over. so advice: always get bill of sale! and notify dmv!
This is normal when you sell, trade in, or donate your car to charity. Unless the new owner registers the car a check of the VIN number always shows the last registered owner. That's why if you trade in or donate your car you should always keep a copy of your paperwork for at least 5 years.
Seems your local congressman needs to address this issue to force dealers to register the car before sending it to auction toprotect the new car buyer. The dealerships are skimming by the real issue and don't want to be held accountable but that's exactly who should be. This is reckless.
Wow. Here where I live, the dealership owns the vehicle. They register it under the dealership and then transfer it to the new owners when sold to them.
So they know the vehicle was sold to Reliable Nissan. That means Reliable Nissan is the last known owner of the Explorer, not the people who traded in the car. Why hasn't the dealership corrected the records at the license bureau?
this happened to me..i sold a car,they never took title to DMV or registered the car...i got tickets in the mail from a town 5 hours away..parking tickets and running red lights.i had to pay the tickets and while i was in the town paying the tickets we decided to take the car back.which i still have sitting in my yard...i put a lien on the title for the money owed and its been 3 years...i still have the car and they left title i had signed in the glove box....so legally the car is still mine...
My friend's car was STOLEN, and reported. But a year later, they came after him to make him pay a bunch of tickets they put on it when they found it instead of recovering it for him.
Had a car parked on the side of the road for a week. Many cops came by because they put those stickers on it. Well as the 2nd week came through some people decided to scrap as much as they could from that vehicle along with smashing and destroying it. The cops just came by to put more stickers on the car where ever they could because the windows were gone. Eventually they got it. But why did it take soo long? A lot of cars are stolen and left like that.
It's not their job to recover your car. They find it, the search for illegal things they call the owner and usually say to pick it up within the time it takes them to do the report .if you cannot it gets towed. They don't bother to call if the car is totalled they just tow it 🤷
@@fangzea if it was stolen they would have towed it. It obviously wasn't stolen. They cannot touch it
@@scootersonlyrepair6773 Lies and you dont live where I do. Also, 4 year old comment? are you high?
I had my car stolen & recovered by the local police taken to there car park where it was stolen again before i could collect
"our hands are tied" so even if it is proven to you that she is no longer the owner and has not been for over a year they will still go after her because a citation was issued? Just goes to show you its about the money not the prevention of crime.
Mr Eboric what can the police do? Please tell me how they can change the owner name?
They can dismiss the tickets on the grounds that she is not the current owner regardless of what a computer screen says and because they can not locate the actual owner. That's what they can do instead of punishing people they know for a fact did nothing wrong. They act like the ticket is carved in stone and must be paid no matter the circumstance and that's complete bullshit.
Mr Eboric that's not the responsibility of the police, they don't have the authority to dismiss a ticket, that's the courts job
Not saying Not saying They speak to the court about the circumstance and ask that they dismiss it upon obvious grounds that the original owner was found to be no longer responsible for the vehicle.
Mr Eboric ok? Police still have a job to do, it's not their fault that the car is still registered to them, they pretty much don't have a choice on what to do.
She should just tell them she wants it back for the price of the fine. Legally it's her car she should just keep it now, sell it again lol.
I think it's only value is scrap by the looks of it.
She can sell it to a scrap yard for $150. It gets her an extra $150 and it out of her life.
Yeah, that's what I say. Sell it again!
Digital Crack that's what I was thinking lol
Me too, sell it for scrap or parts.
"Reliable Nissan" Oh the irony.
Zach Kellner nissans are quite reliable
They relibably screw things up lol
Darren Coghlan Nissan’s are only reliable when they don’t break down. Let’s be honest. To be fair, I think Nissan makes nice looking and fun to drive vehicles. But ever since Nissan merged with Renault in the early 2000’s, there have been some build quality issues and many other types of issues with Nissan’s and Infiniti’s. Other than that, I like Nissan and Infiniti vehicles. They’re cool looking and fun to drive. Just don’t think that the build quality is any better than Ford, Honda and Toyota however. 😅
@PMH Did the Nissan salesman tell you that one?
if DMV thinks she still owns it, go GET it, sell it AGAIN
mark marchiafava hahahahahah Good luck getting a car back after u "Sold it" and handed in everything along with the car 😂
@@kingoffoos5184you can call in a mobile locksmith that will create a new set of keys as long as she shows proof of ownership.
Surely the auction house at least has a name of who bought the damn car (or are they all shady-as-shit cash only 'auctions'?)
Obviously, since the people who had it were doing shady shit with it according to the residents who found it on the side of the road.
Evil Ash Auction houses don't give a shit. You pay with cash, sign the forms, and you walk out with keys and title.
they should have a receipt of who bought it by lsw
The woman needs to get a lawyer and sue the state for harassment
fuck yeah sue somebody involved with that mess!
James Webb Jr or pay 60$ for an extra car I don’t get why she never tried to keep the car
I'd go after the dealership. They missed an opportunity to step up.
Almost same thing happened to me, donated a car to Salvation Army, they sold it and it was never taken out of my name. New owner racked up hundreds of bucks in tickets. One morning the police knocked on my door to arrest me for outstanding tickets. Luckily I had a copy of my act of donation.
A month latter the Salvation Army called me trying to get me to claim the car because it had been towed and impounded and the new purchaser could not get it because they never titled it.
Told them to pack sand!
Gotta love stupid bureaucracy.
Harry Buttwhisker I hit like just for your screen name. lol. And I fuckin love Bob's burgers.
um no, they did there job, look the stupid thing is EVERYONE did there job EXCEPT the guy that bought the car. The state can't personally go and monitor every freaking vehicle sale to ensure the buyer registers. The dealer/auction house cant follow the buyer there and ensure he does. It's the buyer that broke the law by failing to register it.
in fact everything mostly ended fine lol. She had to stop by the DMV and and the courthouse but the ticket went away and now the impound lot is going to take care of transfer of title and no doubt simply scrap it.
My father sold a truck. The guy never registered. It got towed. The CHP saw that he was the last registered owner and said he could get back if he paid the fees,. But sine he filed the proper paper work he was not liable for the fees.
+Don Ziolkowski, well said Don.
I went through a similar situation back in 1997 here in Louisiana. I had traded a 1991 Camaro for a 1995 Astro van (3 kids showed up during that time period). Two years later, I get the sheriff's department show up at my house with a warrant for failure to show up in court for a traffic accident and various parking fines in Mississippi.
I had to call the courts in Mississippi to explain that I no longer owned the car since it was a trade-in on a new vehicle. Luckily I still had all the paperwork from the purchase which included information on my trade-in (make, model, VIN) which I faxed over to the courts. I figured the courts would see that the local dealership accepted the car. NO! I needed the dealership to contact the courts.
I had to threaten to sue the dealership for them to contact the courts to get it straight. It seemed the dealership had sent the car to an auction house without doing any title transfer. The car was auctioned off, and the auction house showed the car had been sold at auction. PERIOD! No idea who bought it. They just took the cash and handed over the signed title and a general bill of sale for the new owner to register it. Everything perfectly legal, except the new owner failed to register it.
The Camaro had gotten several tickets for illegal parking in Mississippi all within a 35 mile radius and a warrant from the county to have it towed on the next ticket. Then someone driving got into a hit-and-run accident that put somebody in the hospital, and it was caught on video tape and by witnesses. The car had been abandoned several blocks away in an alley. No plates. No driver.
That's where I come in. I was the last registered owner according to the state of Louisiana. And had to spend my TIME and MONEY to get it straightened out. Since then I kept all paperwork whenever I traded in a car for a new one until I got rid of the vehicle. And I made sure that the information on my trade-in included the VIN and the dealership name on it.
JD
Great True Crime mini-story, I actually read all of it. Thanks
jdmeaux wow I feel bad... Even tho i do believe you, it's crazy story
It's your job to send in the release of liability for the cars you sell. Why would you sell anything in your name and not make sure your name isn't attached 😕🤔. If I was the dealer and you threatened me I would have told you to fuck yourself. It's not up to them to do your paperwork. Dealerships never have their name on cars. No transfer is required to sell a car at auction.
That one guy just solved her "problem". He said, once someone takes ownership of a vehicle, it's their responsibility to register it. RELIABLE to8k ownership of it (from her). It's RELIABLE's problem now.
Edward Hartgrove Reliable sold the car at auction. Do you even understand English ?
I would have sued the dealer in small claims for the maximum as to file is cheap and let the Judge figure it out. Reliable should be at fault as they took it for trade in. What happens next shouldn't be on the old owner as it's out of their hands.
Meeker Extreme the MVP knows the car was sold to Reliable. It's the National Database that never gets the updates. The auction house should be required to update the instant they sold the car. Figure out who bought the car from the auction house and prevent them from buying any car in the future.
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't ya? The car was traded in, therefore the liability falls onto Reliable Nissan. They took possession of it making them the new owners. Because they failed to register it with the state isn't the woman's fault nor do you have to be an asshole to Edward.
posting id ● I very, very rarely do this, but, for you, I've decided to make an exception. I guess you're yhe one who isn't too bright. If you have any third or fourth graders around you, ask them to read my original comment. You'll see that I said it was Reliable's problem. So, "posting id", stop looking at the water in your toilet when trying to come up with a name to call them. All you'll see there is an asshole's reflection.
They are just hounding her because she has money and can pay fines, and they lost track of the new owner, imo. They know they can't get money out of the bum who didn't register it.
most likely the NEW owner is in jail already.. prolly for drugs too...
@@mikewhitaker2880 i tell them it not my damn car anymore i sold it to this place at a car lot they fail to change it off from my name there for im NOT pay shit & u cant make me so i see ur ass in court & i sue
This is New Mexico's fault
Police, "it's out of our hands".......well, then.....do the right thing POLICE!
2:27 that is some high quality editing. Straight out of Hollywood
How did the dealership give this car to another entity to be sold at auction without having a clear title? I would think the car had to be registered to the dealership before it could then be sold at auction. Seems like a couple steps were skipped.
Hi in reply to the theft comment sometimes it's because someone doesn't file paper work with the DMV for a clean title so that is how the bank is on the title even though everything is paid. So the bank usually can do another lien release and the new owner can get a different title (not always and it's a process)
Maybe I can shed some light on this. I bought a car from a used dealership and asked why the title was in the previous owner's name still, the gentleman explained the process.
Basically, they take the signed title, and put their dealership name on the title, but don't file it. Now, they can drive/move the car with a dealer plate. This means they don't have to pay sales tax and title fees when 'buying' the car from you, where a private sale would require that.
Then, when they sell the car, they make out a bill of sale from the dealership to the buyer, as well as a title transfer, from the dealership to the buyer. This is perfectly legal, it's a process so dealerships don't have to pay hundreds on title fees/sales tax that would cut into their profit.
Again, none of this gets filed with the dealership UNTIL the newest buyer goes to the registry and hands in the paperwork. The registry looked at all this paperwork I had, and said everything was good and I registered the car as if I had bought it private sale. ONLY dealerships can 'sign over' signed titles. A private party can't do that, it's considered floating a title and illegal.
Unfortunately stuff like this can happen since according to the DMV, the car is still in the first owner's name. The dealership keeps a record of cars they buy and sell, but it's more for tax purposes, and aren't required to update the registry that a car was traded in.
and a couple laws were broken
You clearly have zero idea how car dealers work. The cars are never in the dealers name. They just pass the title to the next dealer.
@@Kajacot that's not illegal. I bought and sold 1 car 7 times in a year it was never in my name until I finally sent it to the junkyard who would only pay the registered owner. I had all the receipts for each person who bought it. Not illegal to float a title. It is illegal to attempt to erase the floated names from records. $15 for each time it was sold. I made $11k off that car that cost me $900. And then the junkyard paid me $750 more. That's why I was willing to pay $15 7x
I had a friend who got into Meth in the 1990's. I tried helping her and I gave her my Geo Metro and told her to turn the title over. She didn't, but I did turn in the report of sale. It saved me a bunch of parking tickets etc. The city of Seattle tried making me pay, but my Report Of Sale saved me.
New mexico mvd does it again!!! I had a similar experience, but the parking ticket I got was for a whopping 350 dollars!! I managed to get the ticket dropped but not before tracking down the old tags! In texas, the tag goes with the vehicle sale, but new mexico is different. That department is so screwed up, and has been for more than 20 years!! Don't they think it might be time to fix it?
Same in AZ. Here, the vehicle would be titled in the dealer's name as soon as they got it, then the auction house's name as soon as they got it, unless it was an auction where they were selling it on the dealer's behalf, but either way, in order to pick it up, it would have to be titled by whoever takes it from auction. It might not be REGISTERED, but registration doesn't show ownership anyway, that's what the TITLE is for, or at least, it's supposed to be. And, in AZ, once you file a sold notice with the MVD, you don't have anything to do with it.
NM has a lot of odd things with their laws, though, it seems. I got pulled over in Rio Rancho once and they told me my license was suspended but that they were letting me off with a verbal warning. (What?) When I checked with AZ, everything was fine and it had never been suspended. Dunno if the police have a crappy system there or if they just make up things to justify pulling people over.
they actually are very corrupt in new mexico. cops make up shit all the time. every once in a while ill find a vloggers video they made while passing thru that state. the video will just be about whatever then in the middle they get stopped by 5-0 and accused of $1,000's worth of offenses. if they had a camera on themselves and or the road they usually can call the cops bluff and be on their way but otherwise few get to pass thru corrupt NM for free. id like to visit all 50 states but some i think ill just stay the hell out of. take my tourist dollars elsewhere.
Same in Ohio, all vehicles are titled through the title department and to transfer title you go to the title department, sign the back and they issue a new title to the new owner.
You can just sign the title and give it to the new owner and its their responsibility to get a new title, but that makes it easier for something like this video to happen.
Unless you have proof like a picture of the signed title or get it notarized.
I can't believe a dealer or auctioneer would buy or sell a vehicle without transferring the title.
grumerguy no sir, if I sell a car tags stay with me, look at the DMV web site they recommend you take the plate
That exact same thing happened to me a few months ago. I traded my car to San Diego Toyota and leased a new one. About a month later I got a ticket in the mail for unpaid toll charges. I sent them the information about the vehicle sale. OOPS. Another month later I get a second toll ticket. I called the San Diego Toyota and they in essence said there was nothing they could do about it. I am pissed off. DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM SAN DIEGO TOYOTA. Their customer service in this regard SUCKS!
I went through something like this with the state of Virginia. In 2010 I moved, registered my vehicles in a new state, turned in old Virginia tags to the Virginia DMV, new insurance for a new state.... Whole 9 yards. I didn’t even own any of the vehicles after 2014.
7 years later in another new state clear across the country I get a paycheck that was over $1400 short. Come to find out my check was GARNISHED by Virginia for unpaid taxes for the years 2011-2017! They were able to find my new employer, yet they couldn’t figure out my vehicles hadn’t been registered in Virginia for 7 years.... Go figure!!!!
After about 2 months of phone calls and run arounds they gave me all but $30 ($15/year for my oldest car) back saying I still owed money on a car that was crushed at a junk yard in 2012, which was over 2 years after i sold it to the junk yard in the 1st place. And when I tried to explain to them the time frame and process required to crush a car they still made me pay for those 2 years worth of taxes on it up until the day it was crushed! Fortunately I make enough where i still had enough money where i really didn’t get but so upset about it.
Unbelievable. I wonder when that state will get their shit together. The
I had same issue with a car I traded in. But was in a wreck when it fell off a dealership semi. I think dealerships need to report a VIN as soon as they get it. Be nice too if our Bureaucracy would move up with the times aswell. Shouldn't take 3 months for paperwork to go through the dmv. Yet our state officials want raises lol.
Mark Wolf i
take a picture of the title when you sign it over to anyone just in case they don't go to the title agency right away that way you have proof of day of sale
Very odd. I had a similar thing happen in Washington State. Sold my junker at a yard sale, being sure to fill out the form on the back of the registration and sent it in as required. Got a call a month later from the State Patrol because "my" car had been abandoned on the freeway and was in impound. I informed them of the sale and told them I had sent in the paperwork. They thanked me for the information and that was the end of the matter for me. Since the New Mexico motor vehicle people apparently have the record of her trading the car to Nissan they shouldn't have bothered her after that.
*The narrators voice is ASMR soothing*
How ridiculous!
1 of those ONLY in America stories.
Feel sorry for that lady, she traded her car in good faith, and the car dealer was lazy in retiring or taking over the registration until it was resold!
@iamnobody noone That too! Meh, America!
I heard they aren't responsible to do the paperwork, but can it be requested? I would tell the sales manager it's part of the deal of me buying the car, and I'm happy to shop else where that will fill out the correct papers. It's required in Michigan, an I tell the mangt that I want a document within 24hrs of trading the vehicle, something that shows that car is now registered to the dealer.
Same happened to me in a way. Did a trade in deal on a new car and was contacted by the person who had purchased the traded car at auction 9 months later. Undoubtedly this person had been driving the car for at least 8 months while it was still in my name. He said he had lost the title and needed my help now getting it transferred into his name and now registration was due. I do believe he would have driven it longer before contacting me if not for that. The dealership never transferred it from my name. Called the salesman, who still remembered me, and let him know I wasn't happy....very loudly....very very loudly I let him know.
This is why when I sell a car I personally change the title myself to the new owners name.
This happened to me. I traded my 2004 Mustang to Leta Ford in Chesterfield, Missouri. Two months later I got a nasty letter from St. Louis, about my "abandoned vehicle." After research, I found that the dealership NEVER contacted the state to change ownership. Exact same setup...the VIN was identical.
She was eventually helped kind of scary what the car might have been used for
2:47 WTF how broken is their system. She doesn't own the car but because she was the last person to own the car the system defaults to her. Dafu.
2:55 This guy is a tool. It's not registered to her as she has all of the documents proving a "bill of sale"
Furthermore this is hiding a much bigger problem. Most likely the person who bought had the intent to use it for criminal activity, so they used falsified documents when purchasing the vehicle. However this is not the problem, the problem is when the DMV or what not tried to verify the falsified documents they couldn't, and instead of filling a report, about the use of fake legal documents, they just rolled the owner ship back to the last known owner.
The police should track down that employee and give them a what for, since I would wager that they could be charged with Negligence, Aiding and Abetting, and Impeding a Criminal Investigation.
What I don't get is why they're ignoring the vehicle's title. It might not have been registered, but the owner on the title should change every time someone takes ownership of the vehicle. Well, at least, that's how it works in AZ. NM is kind of strange, though.
lmao take it back and sell it again
I don't understand why the United States can't or won't organize thinks properly. So simple here in Canada. You sell/ trade in a vehicle it is then delisted from your ownership info. Logical. For a country whom claims it is the best in the world it sure doesn't hold up to its claims.
simplesimon640 Unfortunately, motor vehicle laws are dictated by the states. So different states will have different laws pertaining to vehicle ownership and registration.
simplesimon640
You live in a country that has less population than Texas... Much easier to keep everything organized.
We are a Republic of Independent States. Our Constitution gives authority to the Federal Government. For specific things. All else stays in the hands of State Govt. Including vehicle registration and plates.. etc. Obviously New Mexico is not very organized... Some others are very organized.. it just depends on where you live.
Both very good points. I did learn something new after reading. Now I have a better understanding of how it happened.
How many vehicles in canukistan compared to the USA?
Next.
All bureaucratic systems rely on people doing their job. It could be the most simple or the most complex organization if one person doesn't do their job or makes a mistake there will be a problem. Anything designed or organized by humans is imperfect because man is imperfect.
Ont canada requires you buy a kit from the transportation dept showing who owned the vehicle priors and if any violations or liens on it left.
Am having the same issue what should i do next ?
Here, once you sell or trade a vehicle, that person has 60 days to get it out of your name... Plus, its illegal to take a vehicles title, with the original owners signature on it and sell it to someone else... Thats Title Jumping...
Flippin Fast in finland there's one week time to register vehicle to own name that why we do on top of title paper that has buyer's name, sosial number, vehicle information so on
Illegal but done a lot. I got my car that way. Of course I registered it and insured it. But it was a title jump.
Title jumping is good old American capitalism at its finest ! Nothing wrong with it . Only reason it's illegal is the damn state feels like every owner no matter how short term should pay a years worth of property taxes (at least here in MO) ... I'll only buy a vehicle if the old owner will leave the signatures open , usually all I'm doing is flipping for profit anyways ... Fuck the tax man ...
I agree with you on that. We do not have property tax on cars here in NM. Other than sales tax of the vehicle and yearly or 2 year registration. I swear if they did I would kill me some law makers. Bullshit laws and taxes.
Random randomness if the old owner doesn't sign new owners can't always get a title (certain states may differ)
never mind protecting yourself when you buy a car, what about when you train one in? does the dmv have an regestry removal form?
You absolutely have to fill out a separate form and send it in to the state. In every state. I just traded my car in with the same dealership, and I still came home and filled out the TX form and sent it in.
Here in Georgia if you give notice to the tag office that you sold the vehicle, they do change the record so law enforcement knows that the vehicle was sold and the registration canceled. The VIN will still show the previous owner until the new owner registers it but at least they know its not theirs anymore.
Something similar happened to a friend of mine. He actually sold his car to a guy who answered his craigslist ad. He signed the release of liability sent it to the DMV and thought that was it. A year later a towing company wanted to charge him $1,000 in fees. Says the car was abandoned and DMV records show he was the last registered owner. He called the DMV which confirmed the release of liability was signed and he had no obligation to pay any tickets or fees associated with that car. The towing company had to kick rocks and get their money somewhere else since the guy who had originally bought the car never registered it under his name.
Yup just like the DMV to mishandle this. My brother tried updating information on his vehicles 4 times when he was out of state in the military. Twice electronically and twice by mail but only 1 of his vehicles updated. SImilar issue occurred with me. I only tried 3 times though in the past year and still cant get the address changed to the correct one on 1 of my vehicles my second vehicle finally updated on the second try. will try a 4th time on the first vehicle. It is an electric car so it hurts my utility bill because i cant sign up for prime electrical rates until the car is registered to my current address.
Wow. Same EXACT thing happened to me in Maryland 25 years ago, only it was a 1978 Civic. Things really don't change, you know?
Only half listened in the background to this, but seems to be making too big a deal.
I had this happen to me. Sold a car privately, 6 years later got a parking ticket in the mail for it. Once I figured out what was going on, I ran the Carfax then went to court to dispute it. Explained I didn't own it. Judge asked for proof. I provided the Carfax that showed it registered in the next state (but never here, which is how the vin linked to me). He looked at it, said DOT screwed up, case dismissed.
Don't they have to register the vehicle before they take it off the lot just curious I know in California they do this
0:32 that quality edit tho
2:14 wtf I thought it was 911 not 311💀
She signed paperwork when she traded in the car to “reliable “Nissan. It sounds like good old pass the buck. The people who should be doing something are doing their best Sergeant Schultz line of “I know nothing “.
Years ago I consigned on a car loan and got the car removed from my name when the car was paid off or so I thought but the car is still showing in my name again. Looks I'll have to do it again. The car was either wrecked or sold years ago.
I've been having a similar problem I traded a 1989 Ford E-350 Van for a 2000 BMW the new owner of the Van drove it out to California and has not gotten it registered into her name and has already received Parking tickets from Alahumbra CA. and LA CA. Both of which sent me the tickets. I sent them both back the released documents from the DMV here in Oklahoma which I had the buyer sign and notarized thru the DMV here. I also included a letter telling them the next time it's ticketed they should just tow it seeing the new owner see,s to have no intention of registering it in their name and more than likely won't show up for the tickets and that it is no longer my problem as I have a signed release for the vehicle.
I sold a truck, the buyer did not reregister it, instead he hit a little girl on a bicycle and ran. the cops caught him and charged me...
Luckily I had a bill of sale showing the buyers name and signature. I also had a RELEASE OF LIABILITY RECEIPT from Dmv. This proved that I am not liable for anything involving that truck. Years later i see that truck and the guy I sold it to driving around. Go figure???
At 2mins and 20 something secs in they say there was no tags on it but in the pictures you can see the tags are blurred I'm puzzled?
This is no joke I sold a van to a salvage yard 14 yrs ago every year I get the registration in the mail saying if the vehicle is to remain non op do nothing,I've filled out the paperwork 5 times at the dmv and still nothing has changed
Strange arrangement in USA. Here in the UK, the registration plate (generally) stays with the car for its entire life. Once you sell a car, you declare that to the DVLA and it stops being your problem. Any unregistered or uninsured cars quickly appear on ANPR cameras and are taken off the road. Isn't that fairly simple?
video99.co.uk Because here registration is done by state. Every state has different rules and fees for registration and NMs obviously sucks
Yes, yes, and fucking yes. Bunch of idiots here.
I assume that plate sin Britain stay the same when transferring the car between England, Scotland and Wales. Here in the U?S. each state has their own plates that they issue, so if she was to sell the car, she doesn't know if the car is going to the same state. Because of that, the plate stays with the owner not the car.
235 million cars in us 35 million in the uk
@@thedevilsadvocate5210 So you're saying that America just sucks at anything besides invading Middle Eastern countries?
In my state, transfer of title can be done by both the new owner and seller. Check the title.
same with me. I donated a car to one of these groups that ask you to donate an unwanted car. One year later I received a phone call from the Portland, Or police impound lot saying that they have my car, because it was found abandoned on the side of a road. The ppl they gave the car to never changed the plate or registration. I informed them (the impound lot person) that they can keep it, and then gave them the number to the group I donated it to. I never heard back from the PD after that.
what about checking the nicb, kgb,
Same thing just happened to me in Canada. Why does this have to be so complicating. This is ridiculous.
Update??
In our town you report a abandoned vehicle it gets towed within a day or 2 they will contact the owner to see if they still own it if they say no off to the crusher
So why does the auction house not have record of who they sold the car to?
I sold my van 12 years ago I still get registration notice from the DMV I filed sale papers with the DMV 7 times it's been junked but they keep sending me renewal notices in the mail.
this is a flaw in the computer systems. there are 2 systems that dont cross check eachother
You need to keep a copy of the sales receipt in case this happens to you. It would solve a lot of issues.
So, what was the eventual outcome of this, seeing as how it was posted 3yrs ago..?!
I bought a car back in 2002. The title had been signed a total of six times between dealers across different states without anyone ever registering it with a DMV. It was a nightmare for me to register it because my DMV wanted a bill of sale from the last person to register it.
I know this is an old story/video. I'm confused on something. When she traded it in. Doesn't that now make the dealership the NEW owner, and shouldn't they then be required to register the vehicle? Just from an insurance pov. Before they sent it to auction a customer comes in takes it for a test drive has an accident...don't they need to be the registered owner for coverage?
I traded in a 2004 Chevrolet Tracker on a 2015 Toyota Corolla in December 2019. When I renewed the Corolla's registration, I was asked if I was renewing the registration on both vehicles. Fortunately, the current owner of the Tracker hasn't created any problems for me.
What I don't understand is when the auction company sold the car do they not keep records of who they sold it too. Because they have to sign the title over to someone.
Seven years ago we sold our van to a guy that exports cars to Mexico. We still get recall notices from the manufacturer because the car was never re-registered in the USA.
Ladies; due diligence have title at time of sale. Register sale with State with buyer as sold.
Done 101 In this case, she did everything right. Due to a crazy loophole in NM's motor vehicle codes, the dealer nor the auction house had any responsibility to have the vehicle registered. As such, the vehicle continued to be registered under her name since the shady new owners mever registered the vehicle after acquiring it.
This all occured despite the various physical transfers of title and the old owner filing a Bill of Sale and vehicle sale with the MVD.
If there's anyone to blame in this matter, it's the state for continuing to allow this crazy loophole to continue. But let's face it, no MVD employee is motivated enough to enact any actual change. And no politician will care because such change would not be massive enough to generate votes or create any profit for themselves.
Washington state has a form you fill out and send to the Head DMV Office stating you are no longer in possession of the vehicle..
Ask that dealership for info
If the vehicle has been sold then it is the responsibility of the buyer to ensure it is registered. That is what the attorney say at the 3:45 mark. Well, a trade in is legal a sale. The dealer is legally buying the vehicle from the customer so that means the dealer is responsible for getting it registered. Since the seller still has the paperwork showing when and to whom it was sold, then go after the buyer, here being the dealership, for failure to register the vehicle.
Did this ever get handled?
3:00
Yeah right you have discretion when it comes to assessing fines. You and your buddies simply don't care because you guys figured that the person would just fork over the 90$ to get rid of the headache.
this happend to a friend of mine, someone went GTA in a truck he traded in and his insurance went up for traffic offences he wasnt a part of...
gotta love bureaucracy in action
I had this happen to me in Hawaii, but I just told them I sold the car and I never heard from them again. Fortunately!
I would take the car back and resell it. Free money
The Dealer never did any paper work with the State Im sure, It cost me 2500 bucks to learn my Lesson on selling a car with out having the buyer providing a photo ID, signing the title as buyer dating it, filling out a Bill of sale having them sign it, photo copy both. Sold a car with out doing this car ended up in TX in a bad accident in which they came after me, the 2,500 is what I had to pay a Lawyer to take care of it, learned from my State what I should have done because a lot of people will just put on a set of plates from another car and drive it.
How is it legal for the auction house to not report vehicle sales or in the very least k eep records on who buys their vehicles?
It’s simple, the dealer who bought from Mannheim should have record of who they sold the car to and will have a sale contract on record. It’s really simple to trace it if they want to clear the mess.
This happened to me back in 2001. Sold a car private party sale turned in a release of liability to the DMV immediately and for about a year and to two years I would get calls and letters from tow companies about it. Told I sold it not my problem.
The car dealership and the auction house have to save sales contracts for several years after the sale by law. The auction house will have a sales contract showing who bought the vehicle and that person signed paperwork that identifies them as the owner. The state should be required by law to track down and hold responsible that person or require by law that auction houses turn in signed over titles of sold vehicles for registration into the purchaser's name and charge the purchaser a fee for it.
I would send their letter back to them, with a fee schedule of what they now owe me for responding to them, and notifying them that they will publish a formal written apology acknowledging that they were willfully engaged in extortion and that that has been corrected, or else they WILL be charged in court with extortion and criminal negligence. No one is above the law!
In Ohio, when you trade in a car to a car lot the car lot is supposed to register as the new owner. Laws must be different in New Mexico.
LMAO "I've been passed around."
Sue the police and the dealership and the auction house.
Thing of the past in my state. Now all titles have a tear-off that is signed by the purchaser.
Cost me $200 several years ago for the same type of situation. Now, It'll cost you the price of a stamp to mail it, or a trip to the DMV.
Once it's sold (and you've done your due diligence after) NOT your problem!
When I sell a car to someone I not only generate a bill of sale for them but also for my own records with both names (seller and buyer as well as home addresses). That way if they don't register the car and something happens to it I can prove I sold it to that person on that day. Their name and signature in on my original copy of the bill of sale.
Filed a “ notice of sale “ with DMV..... NO PLATE... tow to impound...An national auction company doesn’t secure information on who buys the vehicle ?...That Explorer has a shady, to very dark past from the day the Nissan dealer accepted the trade !
Something like that happened to me, years ago. I signed a title, gave it to my boyfriend cause he was supposed to sell the car. He sold it, kept the money, neither he nor new owner filed any paperwork! So I had no idea who he sold it to, hesitated to report it stolen, yet even going to a lawyer couldn't get the DMV to take it out of my name. They said they had to transfer it into someone's name to do that. I never heard anything, but they did create a file in my name in case the car showed up. What I don't get is how the new owners managed without any documentation, and what finally happened to the car.
soo problem solved,
car is being towed, she no longer has to pay any fees.
(towing company says itself if she does not pay, she does not want the car anymore)
In my state there is a law that when a title changes ownership, that it must be registered within 10 days. If the car dealership failed to obey the law, then they should be sued and fined.
almost similar situation (in cali) that happened to my hubby, except he was TOTALLY STUPID at fault. he sold his car to a "friend" but never did a bill of sale and never notified the DMV. his "friend" sold it to somebody else without reg the car to his name. new owner doesn't register the car in his name also. months later, we get a bill from a towing company for $1k. car was abandoned on side of freeway and still reg to my hubby. tow co. says if we get bill of sale from 1st buyer, they'll bill the other guy. hubby doesn't want to "bother" his "friend" and ends up paying the $1k. told you my hubby dumb. extremly good guy, but dumb...... & this ain't the first "friend" that's screwed him over. so advice: always get bill of sale! and notify dmv!
This is normal when you sell, trade in, or donate your car to charity. Unless the new owner registers the car a check of the VIN number always shows the last registered owner. That's why if you trade in or donate your car you should always keep a copy of your paperwork for at least 5 years.
Seems your local congressman needs to address this issue to force dealers to register the car before sending it to auction toprotect the new car buyer. The dealerships are skimming by the real issue and don't want to be held accountable but that's exactly who should be. This is reckless.
To the people who called the cops: THAT VEHICLE WAS TRADED IN BY THE ORIGINAL OWNER! LEAVE THE POOR WOMAN ALONE!
Wow. Here where I live, the dealership owns the vehicle. They register it under the dealership and then transfer it to the new owners when sold to them.
So they know the vehicle was sold to Reliable Nissan. That means Reliable Nissan is the last known owner of the Explorer, not the people who traded in the car. Why hasn't the dealership corrected the records at the license bureau?
this happened to me..i sold a car,they never took title to DMV or registered the car...i got tickets in the mail from a town 5 hours away..parking tickets and running red lights.i had to pay the tickets and while i was in the town paying the tickets we decided to take the car back.which i still have sitting in my yard...i put a lien on the title for the money owed and its been 3 years...i still have the car and they left title i had signed in the glove box....so legally the car is still mine...