Why are most reviewers somehow not noticing (yet?) about the drying needs of this filament being WAY above that of PETG Basic? It appears to soak up water like a sponge - a lot more than PETG Basic. More like nylon. That's fine but as a replacement for PETG Basic, doesn't it kind of matter, like, a LOT?
I agree. This first video was more of a overview, run through initial impressions and what to expect out of the box. I have been using the HF for about 2 weeks nows and I agree, it is far more hygroscopic than the PETG Basic. My humidity levels aren't horrible my room tends to hover around the 48-50% mark. So it took a few days to really see a difference after drying. I'm going to do a follow up video. Your inputs are spot on, nobody has really talked about it's properties. The HF appears to be a little stiffer too, I'm going to try and set up some sort of strength test to compare to share that too. Thanks for watching and sharing. your inputs!
As for colors, the new black PETG HF is more of a dark gray with a brownish tint. It has some strange properties as for PETG, it whitens on bends, it's hygroscopic. It looks stiffer but weaker. I miss PETG Basic. I had it dialed in to perfection, this new filament looks worse. Except for speed maybe, but I do not want to sacrifice everything else just for speed.... Thanks for the video!
@@ThePrintasaurus What are your settings for the Voxel stuff. Ive been having issues with my grey hs so I am going to give the Bambu pets hf a shot. I get huge gaps in my retractions and can't get it dialed in no matter what I change?
@@krpdrummer2110 Here's what I have found works well. I used the BambuHF as the base setting, changed the following for Voxel HS. Used on my X1C. Voxel is nowhere near as hygroscopic which is great. The new Bambu PETG takes on a lot of moisture!! Max Vol speed - 18-20mm Flow Ratio - .95 seems to work well, also up to .98 voxel HS doesn't seem to care much. 80C for bed temp 245 - all layers 50mm initial layer speed 85mm - 100mm initial infill 150 - 200mm outer wall 250 - 300mm inner wall Travel speed I usually double my outer wall speed - 500mm works well, no stringing. For my Voron, I use similar settings but go back up to 21mm for Max Vol speed. I have a dragon highflow hotend. I also use the lower end of the speed settings for my voron. 85mm - initial infill 150mm outer wall 250mm inner wall And the travel speed I have at 500mm again. Temps I leave the same as above 80c, and 245.
@@krpdrummer2110 Retraction I haven't had issues with. Do you use Orca Slicer? Do a retraction test in the calibration tab if you do. Forgot to answer that part. Hopefully my changes get you in the right direction. I have had much better success with the voxel HS over the bambu. Also a bit stronger.
Thanks for posting! I'm eager to try bambu's new PETG since that's the material I use for my functional prints. I like that corner radius jig a lot; it's on my "to-print" list. I'll have to modify the inserts though; I use a few imperial sizes the most, but for most things the metric varieties are fine. I used to have the M18 compact router, I ended up switching to the dewalt; it just felt a bit better in my hand, plus I have more dewalt batteries than milwaukee. Seeing some diy/woodworking projects would be a nice thing to implement every now and then. 🙂 Looking forward to your next video and the studio changeup. Enjoy your weekend! edit: I'm still bummed they didn't bring all the colors back. I really hope they re-introduce lime green and lake blue.
Thanks for watching. I have collected quite a few Milwaukee batteries and tools same as you easier to use what brand you have more batteries with! I do have some projects coming up that I’m working though the filming process with that will bring some diy/woodworking as content! Stay tuned for those!
What are you printing with? I have used it in my vorons. Prints well with some additional tuning. This version compared to the previous petg basic does take on a lot of water. So I would utilize a small dry box of some sort just to keep it less exposed. I print out of the sunlu s4 after drying, Amazon has a number of single filament dryers that all work well enough. The s4 is on the expensive side.
Started out at 58%, the best it would get to in the Sunlu S4 was 23%. What I have found is this filament takes on water pretty quick in comparison to other PETG.
Oh yes no problem! Can't believe I left that link off. It's on the description now, and below! Thank you for watching. www.printables.com/model/455673-shortstack-the-tiny-little-bambu-ams-loading-fix-t
I just ordered some Voxel PETG HS to test. Voxel looks to claim up to 500mm/s, bambu's is around 300mm/s. Would be a great head to head comparison. I'll try and get that done in the next week or so depending when that filament comes in.
Take a look at the strength tab, advanced and look at infill direction. See if that is what you’re looking for. That was the first thing that comes to mind you can adjust. I’ll look into some other settings on confirming what else might change direction for you.
@@ThePrintasaurus It's more to eliminate residual pressure during wipe rather than it dump it in the outer wall seam. Would essentially end outer wall travel at seam and wipe interior. As well as some of the wipe paths are over last extrusion which bring you over your existing outer wall
Why are most reviewers somehow not noticing (yet?) about the drying needs of this filament being WAY above that of PETG Basic? It appears to soak up water like a sponge - a lot more than PETG Basic. More like nylon. That's fine but as a replacement for PETG Basic, doesn't it kind of matter, like, a LOT?
I agree. This first video was more of a overview, run through initial impressions and what to expect out of the box. I have been using the HF for about 2 weeks nows and I agree, it is far more hygroscopic than the PETG Basic. My humidity levels aren't horrible my room tends to hover around the 48-50% mark. So it took a few days to really see a difference after drying. I'm going to do a follow up video. Your inputs are spot on, nobody has really talked about it's properties. The HF appears to be a little stiffer too, I'm going to try and set up some sort of strength test to compare to share that too.
Thanks for watching and sharing. your inputs!
@@ThePrintasaurus You're welcome. Looking forward to it. ;-)
As for colors, the new black PETG HF is more of a dark gray with a brownish tint. It has some strange properties as for PETG, it whitens on bends, it's hygroscopic. It looks stiffer but weaker. I miss PETG Basic. I had it dialed in to perfection, this new filament looks worse. Except for speed maybe, but I do not want to sacrifice everything else just for speed....
Thanks for the video!
I have been using Voxels new HS petg and it is much better than the new Bambu HF. I agree I miss the petg basic too!
@@ThePrintasaurus What are your settings for the Voxel stuff. Ive been having issues with my grey hs so I am going to give the Bambu pets hf a shot. I get huge gaps in my retractions and can't get it dialed in no matter what I change?
@@krpdrummer2110 Here's what I have found works well.
I used the BambuHF as the base setting, changed the following for Voxel HS. Used on my X1C.
Voxel is nowhere near as hygroscopic which is great. The new Bambu PETG takes on a lot of moisture!!
Max Vol speed - 18-20mm
Flow Ratio - .95 seems to work well, also up to .98 voxel HS doesn't seem to care much.
80C for bed temp
245 - all layers
50mm initial layer speed
85mm - 100mm initial infill
150 - 200mm outer wall
250 - 300mm inner wall
Travel speed I usually double my outer wall speed - 500mm works well, no stringing.
For my Voron, I use similar settings but go back up to 21mm for Max Vol speed. I have a dragon highflow hotend.
I also use the lower end of the speed settings for my voron.
85mm - initial infill
150mm outer wall
250mm inner wall
And the travel speed I have at 500mm again.
Temps I leave the same as above 80c, and 245.
@@krpdrummer2110 Retraction I haven't had issues with. Do you use Orca Slicer? Do a retraction test in the calibration tab if you do. Forgot to answer that part. Hopefully my changes get you in the right direction. I have had much better success with the voxel HS over the bambu. Also a bit stronger.
Thanks for posting! I'm eager to try bambu's new PETG since that's the material I use for my functional prints. I like that corner radius jig a lot; it's on my "to-print" list. I'll have to modify the inserts though; I use a few imperial sizes the most, but for most things the metric varieties are fine.
I used to have the M18 compact router, I ended up switching to the dewalt; it just felt a bit better in my hand, plus I have more dewalt batteries than milwaukee. Seeing some diy/woodworking projects would be a nice thing to implement every now and then. 🙂
Looking forward to your next video and the studio changeup.
Enjoy your weekend!
edit: I'm still bummed they didn't bring all the colors back. I really hope they re-introduce lime green and lake blue.
Thanks for watching. I have collected quite a few Milwaukee batteries and tools same as you easier to use what brand you have more batteries with! I do have some projects coming up that I’m working though the filming process with that will bring some diy/woodworking as content! Stay tuned for those!
For sure want to see this vs the others.
Sounds good, I’m going to Try and incorporate some strength comparisons too.
Would be interested to see if there's any difference for the following 1) If we don't own a x1c 2) own a ams
What are you printing with? I have used it in my vorons. Prints well with some additional tuning. This version compared to the previous petg basic does take on a lot of water. So I would utilize a small dry box of some sort just to keep it less exposed. I print out of the sunlu s4 after drying, Amazon has a number of single filament dryers that all work well enough. The s4 is on the expensive side.
Sample size of one plate with four individual parts, I did not notice any difference between the X1C and A1 mini. Same print quality.
@@driventomadness117 I have been extremely impressed with how well the A1, and A1 mini print. Especially at the price points they are offered at.
Oh real hockey sticks, I was trying to work out how that hockey stick holder would hold the Bambu hockey sticks
Lol, yes real hockey sticks. The mounts actually work pretty well. I’ll share a picture when I get a chance. Thanks for watching.
Questions; Which build plate did you use? Glue or no glue?
Pei is typically what I use with petg. Adhesion is really good with the proper bed temp. 70c is a great starting point to fine tune from if needed
@@ThePrintasaurus Thank you
Yes
Thanks for watching!
What was your RH% after the dry?
Started out at 58%, the best it would get to in the Sunlu S4 was 23%. What I have found is this filament takes on water pretty quick in comparison to other PETG.
Thanks for your review ;)
Can you add the link for the PTFE Guide please ?
Oh yes no problem! Can't believe I left that link off. It's on the description now, and below! Thank you for watching.
www.printables.com/model/455673-shortstack-the-tiny-little-bambu-ams-loading-fix-t
@@ThePrintasaurus thanks a lot 👍
Wondering if the Voxel HS offering is the same stuff. Came out the same time and while BL is labeled HF, Voxel is labeled HS.
I just ordered some Voxel PETG HS to test. Voxel looks to claim up to 500mm/s, bambu's is around 300mm/s. Would be a great head to head comparison. I'll try and get that done in the next week or so depending when that filament comes in.
On Bambu Studio, is there a way to change how the X1C changes wipe direction aside from g-code.
Take a look at the strength tab, advanced and look at infill direction. See if that is what you’re looking for. That was the first thing that comes to mind you can adjust. I’ll look into some other settings on confirming what else might change direction for you.
@@ThePrintasaurus It's more to eliminate residual pressure during wipe rather than it dump it in the outer wall seam. Would essentially end outer wall travel at seam and wipe interior. As well as some of the wipe paths are over last extrusion which bring you over your existing outer wall
I wonder if this filament is less heat resistant for outdoor prints
It’s still pretty hot here high 80s / lower 90s that would be a good test. I will keep you posted.
Do a video on TPU
That I can do! I have a few rolls I have been using, I'll add a few different manufactures and go over which worked best and share settings.