Gotta love how Big Red Button gets tasked with redesigning Sonic and their first idea was "let's do Crash Bandicoot." Then when SEGA shot that down, their next idea was "OK, let's just do Sonic again."
@@masterprick1 How come Sega restricting what Big Red Button can do and forcing them to make the characters just look like the originals but with sports tape on them isn't stupid to you?
@@ElectrikStatik900 Because that would affect how recognizable the character is and would have a direct impact on sales. If you want to criticize Sega for something, it should be for how they forced Red Button to change development mid production for a weaker console.
One thing you missed is that the concept for "sonic day" was later reused by nitrome for their own original game called "leap day" with the same premise and gameplay as sonic day
Even if you somehow missed one or two projects, I don't think it matters. This is easily the most comprehensive collection of cancelled Sonic projects out there on RUclips. You should be extremely proud! Fantastic job!
My headcannon is that the word "Extreme" and its variations is a FORBIDDEN word for any future Sonic title. As if the idea of putting "Extreme" in the title is an omen for it to be cancelled later on. A curse, if you will.
Nitrome took Sonic day and made into Leap Day which is a really fun game even without sonic in it. I used to play Leap a day quite consistently back then and if I knew the game was originally a sonic game I would have been blown away.
With Sonic X, technically the original pitch was “canceled” since it was shown to take place on Mobius (or “Sonic’s World” as it was called in the anime) due to the population of Station Square having anthro characters. Most of the pilot was reused in the Sonic X Japanese opening “Sonic Drive.” Of course the main thing people remember about this pilot was the radical redesign of Super Sonic which became the infamous Nazo character which of course was reimagined as the main antagonist in ChakraX’s The Power of Nazo and Nazo Unleashed fan films as well as the canceled sequel Wrath of Nazo.
@@carso1500 That doesn't make sense. In the same animation you SEE regular Super Sonic, it wouldn't make sense at all for them to show off SS and then cut to this Form the way they did unless it was something else they were going to use at some point. Where did you see this information?
As an extra add on, Sonic Synergy was being built on the latest version of the Cryware Engine, which was not compatible with the Wii U. Essentially, Red Button had to do the game from scratch with a new engine with a tight deadline.
This is probably one of the best Sonic related videos I have ever watched. I was so surprised to hear and find out there was canceled Sonic stuff I had never known about before.
You could honestly do a whole video on canceled archie sonic projects alone from all the different stories that didn't see print and never will. great work on this redux btw
@@Jetter06 That would be a lot of fun! Also fun fact Chris Sean of Sonic X-treme also worked on Sonic Origins and Synergy as a member of Big Red Button. Dude just doesn't have good luck with Sonic projects.
also was not expecting my friend Ynox's Unleashed port to be featured, awesome inclusion, I myself have been trying to work on a Unleashed DS fan game (only planned for PC as of now, maybe DS eventually), been taking a hiatus from the project, but I hope to one day finish what I set out to do @Jetter06 @@Jetter06
@@STICKOMEDIA thats sounds amazing!! I hope your DS project makes its way to a full release because that would me so cool!! and please tell Ynox that they have done some amazing work!!
37:18 Sega, if you want to surpass Mario, this is NOT, and I repeat, *NOT* a step in the right direction. How the hell do you turn down something as good as this?!
The good thing is that if you want to play the game you can easily do it, nitrome made it into a original game called leap day, i remember playing it back in 2017 like crazy lol.
If I had a nickel for every canceled sonic game thats name was sonic extreme, I would have three nickels, that’s not that much, but it’s weird that it happened three times
This was a fun watch. I can’t imagine how much time it must’ve took to make this video, so nice job! I didn’t know fans actually revived the Sonic Underground Archie pitch, so that was cool
Thank you so much for making this definitive version of sonic cancellation projects, I really appreciate what you done to explain these contents that never saw the light of day, you deserve a like.
@@Jetter06 you’re welcome 😉 I appreciate anybody who keeps supporting my fav video game character of all time, sonic was really a lot to me when it comes to video game enjoyer
FREE RIDERS WAS GOING TO HAVE A WII PORT WHAT??? EDIT: Also apparently the Gens Wii port got turned into Colors but I don't have a solid source on that
Yeah people mentioned a possible generations wii port but i couldn't find anything offical on that, im pretty sure they were just being made at the same time and they borrowed elements from one another but dont hold me to that im just speculating
Great job with the video! Just a fun fact, you actually missed a cancelled Sonic game but I dont blame you. This game is called Sonic and the Level Creator. This game had a Sonic Official Level Maker that used Sonic 1 assets and even had an exclusive Zone 7 added to it that seemed more a Sonic CD zone in terms of style with a Sonic 4 theme song. You can search it on RUclips to get more information :) Either way great job with the video!
No flippin way, 😅 i have spent almost 3 months getting this damn directors cut created and your telling me i just missed one if the coolest most obscure games that sonic has ever had??? Imma spin dash into some spikes i swear lmao On a serious note im glad you enjoyed the video! And thank you so much for telling me about this sonic level maker! Imma make a whooooole video on it mark my words lol
You are welcome! This Sonic and the Level Creator game was made on Flash by the way. Despite there being many Flash preservation projects from both Sonic Flash Games and Sonic Flash Websites (Microsites), Sonic and the Level Creator is one of those games that was never preserved and unfortunately last time I checked it could not be played, which is a shame. Either way as far as I recall now this is the only Sonic game you missed out on so great job! If you ever need some help with video topics feel free to reach out and I will gladly help out! Have a good rest of a day!
Great video dude. You even mention the *Sonic SATAM game* that I don't see a lot of other channels even mention. That game would of started an interesting line of games if it did get released. Good research on your part 👍
Absolutely amazing video with an immense amount of work put into it. You deserve way more subs and likes and views. Absolute beautiful amount of effort 🎉🎉🎉
I completely agree! I didnt mean that sonic 3 complete wasnt better then orgins, i meant that there are easier and more accessible ways of playing it for people since not everyone wants to use roms and emulators and or go out to find a flash cart
Knuckles Chaotix was also going to get a port on the Sonic Gems Collection. Also I don't remember which issue it was but in the Archie Comics around 1997 or so, In an interview with Tails writen toward the back of the comic. He mentioned a game called Virtua-Sonic which was in the works. I wonder if this is a long lost game or if it turned into something like Sonic R or Sonic Ride.
*Correction: Virtua Sonic was mentioned in Archie Sonic Issue 36 (And Tails Wasn't Writing it.) The Release date was said to be Winter 96 and I would have come out for the Saturn.
Actually, I didnt this time! There is two ways to spell cancelled! 1) canceled [this is the US version 2) cancelled [ This is the UK version I honestly just perfer the UK version of the word so I spelled it that way instead this time, 🤣 trust me im not about to miss spell that word a second time
Man Sega should bring back Sonic Orgins and Sonic Synergy and hire the original development team again and give them the time they need to make these games extremely great and extremely awesome and I know Sonic synergy was basically the same thing as sonic orgins with a few changes but still Sega should do smart and good ideas such as bringing these games back
*[VIDEOGAMES]* 1:21 - Sonic 3+ 3:51 - Sonic STI 6:10 - Sonic 16 (SATAM) 7:01 - Sonic Crackers 8:40 - Sonic 4 (Saturn) 12:35 - Sonic Sports 13:56 - SEGAPede 15:50 - Sister Sonic 18:15 - Treasure Tails 19:24 - Sonic MARS (32x) 21:31 - Sonic X-Treme 25:04 - Sonic Saturn 26:34 - Sonic Adventure (Saturn) 29:08 - Sonic DS 30:39 - Sonic Chronicles 2 33:00 - Sonic and The Shadow World 34:15 - Sonic Extreme (XBOX) 35:52 - Sonic Day 38:04 - Sonic Runners 39:53 - Sonic 4 Episode III 42:56 - Sonic ExtReme (GBA) *[ARCADES]*
It’s a miracle that the company hasn’t gone under, and they almost did in 2015. Sonic was on the path of extinction before the movie saved it and brought it back to relevance
Great intresting video, defenetly a bit more acurate information than the last one, however as one of the 4 ppl in the world that like sonic 4 I need to say that only ep2 was a comercial failure, ep 1 sold 1milion copies and at the time of its release recived favorable reviews. If you see "some call me jhonhy" one of his first videos is a sonic 4 review and I think he liked it at the time.
Sonic “Crackers” is actually called Sonic Clackers. Due to a translation error, it was accidentally called Crackers. Clackers are the toys that has like one string with 2 balls connected to the end. It was supposed to be like 2 characters with a clacker. Sort of how the physics worked in the final version of Knuckles Chaotix. [Info from Big Sleeter btw you should watch his content]
Lmao, well this new video adds info to several entrys, fixes spelling mistakes and other issues, and adds a whoooole bunch of new entry's that were not in the orginal! Like the supposed sonic 4 for the saturn, sonic free riders for the wii, the offical sonic webcomic, and so on and so forth lol
1:28:05 Japanese/French Translator here. For anybody wondering about volume 2... yeah there's only 11 pages that are actual comics in it. The rest is a game guide. I read through it and the comics are mainly sonic/knuckles doing a tiny bit of remenscing and that's it. Imo it's not really worth translating but I could throw out a google doc with the translation if people really want it.
sonic 4 ep 2 wii was canceled cuz nintendo didn't allow the file size for the wii ware games to exceed a certain amount, it was impossible to fit the game for ep 1 they had to remade the music in MIDI so they can fit the game in the file size limit
@@Jetter06 Nope...they just released a unifished builds. Misfit pack got canceled almost one year ago, while S2 Mania is missing a lot of bosses and a lot of Stages was not finished, like the Metropolis Zone, Sky Chase with no enemies, Wing Fortress with nothing than the tilesets, and Sand Shower, Wind Ocean and Cyber City was also not finished. Both got canceled :( the misfit ''final'' build is way more buggy than the demos we got in SAGE...
I may sound crazy but i think i have a theory. Sonic day was reused for Leap day. But hey, that is just a theory, a canceled game theory. Thanks for reading.
The old Movie Sonic design wasn't a publicity stunt. It was actually gonna be used. The on set eye reference prop was of the old design all the first movie's merch aside from books and plushies used the old design, leaked screenshots of early scenes of the film had the old design, they actually were gonna use it. If it was a publicity stunt, the movie wouldn't have gotten delayed.
Sonic 4 on the sega saturn wouldve been INCREDIBLE. The saturn is a monster when it comes to 2d graphics and they couldve went absolutely hog wild with it. That project being cancelled for nothing was legit tragic, one of the worst decisions they made
@Jetter06 thanks for informing about cancellation sonic games 🎮, now I understand what happened to the other games 🎮 no wonder Sega is the second gaming company in the world 🌍
I really want to see a segapede remake. The concept is pretty good, and there is so many possibilities for power ups. I'ma stop here tho so this don't become a rant
What I mean is that at the end of Sonic chronicles Dr.Eggman takes over the world when Sonic gets back from the twilight cage, and someone theorizes that Sonic forces takes place after Dr.Eggman takes over.
This is just my opinion, but I think sonic 3D blast should’ve been called sonic 32X and released on the 32X Edit: I made this when I was like 10 minutes into the video and then it turns out there was a canceled sonic game called sonic 32X so never mind about the last paragraph I said about sonic 3-D blast
from what i've heard, way back in early 1993, sega wanted to make sonic 3, a 3d game, and that 3d game idea was too obnoxious, so sometime in june 1993, sonic team started working on the sonic 3 we all know and love, which might be why they split it in two. there wasnt enough time to make a full game like that. and that cancelled 3d game idea mightve been Sonic STI, but then evolved into sonic 3d blast.
Fun fact: I was born the day, Sonic Underground's last episode aired ... It's actually really upsetting for me, because I actually really like this cartoon
I have a theory that the sequel to sonic chronicles was reworked into either forces or unleashed, forces being the most likely one Both share similarities to the original sequel idea but forces shares more OG: going around the world amassing an army Forces: does that too OG: Taking down the eggman empire in a war Forces: huh, does that too OG: Big bad manipulating things behind the scenes Forces: ...KIINNNDDA does that and unleashed shares some of these too, this could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt tho
This particular video is focusing solely on official canceled Sonic projects, however I did make a poll recently asking about what the next big Sonic video will be and on that pole was a option about tackling all of the Lost Sonic fan projects! It didn't win the poll but I still plan to make that video eventually!
In my opinion archie sonic is up there in terms of being One of the most unfortunate. Cancelations in sonic history It was different in the fact that. They put thought and cared into what they made most of the time at least 😅 as a huge sonic fan growing up that wanted every thing sonic they played such a huge role in my life and they will always have a special place in my heart
I really do wish Chronicles got a sequel. The Gizoids are my favorite thing in Sonic lore and having just Battle and Chronicles talk about their lore and origins kinda sucks.
1:47:43 Keep in mind i know what it is, never watched that show, i grew up watching Adventures of SonicThe Hedgehog. So seeing all these other characters just looks like weird fan characters. well at least this image more so. man Sonic has a lot of weird stuff back in the 90s, then again everything thing did lol 1:55:34 sonic fans have terrifying power. lol
So sorry! I only just noticed your comment on the last video. I see you found the game books that I mentioned. It’s not related to sonic but around the same time we got 10 Super Mario, 2 legend of Zelda and 2 lemmings game books too. All were fantastic. There might have been more but that’s all I ever saw as a kid. For the sonic books. I could probably find you scans of the 4 that I mentioned. I noticed you showed them in the pic but didn’t talk about them. They’re super hard to find so it’s no surprise if you missed them. After a decade plus of searching. I actually find the books on Amazon of all places lol but I’m pretty sure I could find the scans on the internet if you wanted them.
Since Sonic X-treme, Sonic eXtreme, and Sonic ExtReme all got cancelled, how many years do you think it'll be before a Sonic eXXXtreme ends up in the Super Director's Cut? 😏
I love this video. It is PHENOMENAL. But I do gotta ask, why did you take the Sonic Fanon wiki as your main source for Sonic 4 Episode III? Not tryina judge you or anythin', and that probably IS how it would play, but I'd love to know.
Thank you! Also It was the only source that I could reliably find, some websites had inaccurate info and or not enough, and ive never had any issues with the sonic fanon wiki befor so I mean, i just used the resources avalible to me that I was aware of! Why ya ask? Is there a better sight I could use in the future or look out for when im doing reaserch? If so id love to know for future videos!
![[FULL] RETROSPECTIVE : Final Fantasy Tactics](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RUBmYqs1jZ0/mqdefault.jpg)
Gotta love how Big Red Button gets tasked with redesigning Sonic and their first idea was "let's do Crash Bandicoot." Then when SEGA shot that down, their next idea was "OK, let's just do Sonic again."
Gotta love Sega and their stupid decisions
@@kirby12crystals20Why would preventing them from making their mascot unrecognizable stupid?
@@masterprick1 How come Sega restricting what Big Red Button can do and forcing them to make the characters just look like the originals but with sports tape on them isn't stupid to you?
@@ElectrikStatik900 Because that would affect how recognizable the character is and would have a direct impact on sales. If you want to criticize Sega for something, it should be for how they forced Red Button to change development mid production for a weaker console.
@@masterprick1 Not just weaker but the one the engine already in use wasn't compatible with
Sonic Mars 32x "demo gameplay" is actually a mock-up made on Amiga computer by Chris Senn. No actual playable prototype was ever made.
Thats actually really cool! Some of the websites that go over sonic mars history need to be updated cause a lot of them said it was a prototype lol
One thing you missed is that the concept for "sonic day" was later reused by nitrome for their own original game called "leap day" with the same premise and gameplay as sonic day
Leap day came before. They were doing a Sonic verdion of it.
Leap Day later received high budget sequels though.
Even if you somehow missed one or two projects, I don't think it matters. This is easily the most comprehensive collection of cancelled Sonic projects out there on RUclips. You should be extremely proud! Fantastic job!
Hey pigpen can you do a sonic iceberg explained
Thank you so so very much! That means a lot to me!
@@dravenmartinez6311HELL NO WHY WOULD YOU WANT AN ICEBERG OF SONIC THATS JUST HORRIBLE!!
@ljproductions4026 it's cool also many other people made others
@@ljproductions4026mmmmm
My headcannon is that the word "Extreme" and its variations is a FORBIDDEN word for any future Sonic title. As if the idea of putting "Extreme" in the title is an omen for it to be cancelled later on. A curse, if you will.
Ehh the first attempt was dead on arrival anyway
Insert Capcom pointing and laughing
Dude, I took too many spindash worths of salt, I have an entire factory now.
This is one of the best comments on this video 🤣
@@Jetter06 bad news it shut down
Sonic 4 Saturn: gets cancelled
Sonic 4 EP 1 & 2: I'M STILL LIVIN'!
Not really the same
I'm still kinda pissed s4 on saturn got deleted ngl
Im still standin, yeah yeah yeah
Nitrome took Sonic day and made into Leap Day which is a really fun game even without sonic in it. I used to play Leap a day quite consistently back then and if I knew the game was originally a sonic game I would have been blown away.
Its awsome they got there work out into the world in some fashion! But it still sucks sonic day wasnt every released, that would have been so cool!
With Sonic X, technically the original pitch was “canceled” since it was shown to take place on Mobius (or “Sonic’s World” as it was called in the anime) due to the population of Station Square having anthro characters. Most of the pilot was reused in the Sonic X Japanese opening “Sonic Drive.” Of course the main thing people remember about this pilot was the radical redesign of Super Sonic which became the infamous Nazo character which of course was reimagined as the main antagonist in ChakraX’s The Power of Nazo and Nazo Unleashed fan films as well as the canceled sequel Wrath of Nazo.
Goes without saying.
Nazo was not in the original pilot. He was actually in the 2nd pilot which has the same story as the final show
But in the same trailer they had regular Super Sonic? I think the white form is something else.
@@bhgamemanit's confirmed it was just an early design of super Sonic by the creators of the anime
@@carso1500 That doesn't make sense. In the same animation you SEE regular Super Sonic, it wouldn't make sense at all for them to show off SS and then cut to this Form the way they did unless it was something else they were going to use at some point. Where did you see this information?
As an extra add on, Sonic Synergy was being built on the latest version of the Cryware Engine, which was not compatible with the Wii U.
Essentially, Red Button had to do the game from scratch with a new engine with a tight deadline.
Also, edit: The Tangle and Whisper boxset is not from Archie, but from the recent IDW line.
This is probably one of the best Sonic related videos I have ever watched. I was so surprised to hear and find out there was canceled Sonic stuff I had never known about before.
Thank you so much!! It took me a very long time to create this video so im glad you enjoyed it!!
You could honestly do a whole video on canceled archie sonic projects alone from all the different stories that didn't see print and never will.
great work on this redux btw
Thank you! And thank you again for helping me list all of the unprinted media for sonic!
Also going over archis lost story's would be awsome!!
@@Jetter06 That would be a lot of fun!
Also fun fact Chris Sean of Sonic X-treme also worked on Sonic Origins and Synergy as a member of Big Red Button. Dude just doesn't have good luck with Sonic projects.
19:58 There is actually no in-game footage for Sonic Mars. The videos you can see here are merely mockups made on an Amiga back in the day.
very good video, I didnt expect this quality from such a small channel, you should have alot more subscribers
Thank you!! I try my best to put as much quality as i can into what i make so that means a lot to me!
This video needs more people to see it, the length, the editing, and all the effort that went into this needs to be appreciated
That means a lot to me! Hopfully more people will see it over time!
also was not expecting my friend Ynox's Unleashed port to be featured, awesome inclusion, I myself have been trying to work on a Unleashed DS fan game (only planned for PC as of now, maybe DS eventually), been taking a hiatus from the project, but I hope to one day finish what I set out to do @Jetter06 @@Jetter06
@@STICKOMEDIA thats sounds amazing!! I hope your DS project makes its way to a full release because that would me so cool!! and please tell Ynox that they have done some amazing work!!
@@Jetter06 👍will do
37:18 Sega, if you want to surpass Mario, this is NOT, and I repeat, *NOT* a step in the right direction. How the hell do you turn down something as good as this?!
Ugh! Okay! Dude! Sega surpass Nintendo. Geez!
The good thing is that if you want to play the game you can easily do it, nitrome made it into a original game called leap day, i remember playing it back in 2017 like crazy lol.
This is an insane amount of effort. I hope this blows up!
I rarely ever comment but I have to give you your props. This was fascinating!
Thank you!
If I had a nickel for every canceled sonic game thats name was sonic extreme, I would have three nickels, that’s not that much, but it’s weird that it happened three times
@GuchuPunton-id9sk oops
Fun fact PAC Mania is not actually isometric it’s in cavilar due to its more straight appearance than diagonal .
This was a fun watch. I can’t imagine how much time it must’ve took to make this video, so nice job! I didn’t know fans actually revived the Sonic Underground Archie pitch, so that was cool
Thank you! Yeah to this date this was the biggest project ive ever created and it took almost 3 months to get it finished which was insane!
Thank you so much for making this definitive version of sonic cancellation projects, I really appreciate what you done to explain these contents that never saw the light of day, you deserve a like.
Thank you so much for the kind words! It means a lot to me!
@@Jetter06 you’re welcome 😉 I appreciate anybody who keeps supporting my fav video game character of all time, sonic was really a lot to me when it comes to video game enjoyer
FREE RIDERS WAS GOING TO HAVE A WII PORT WHAT???
EDIT: Also apparently the Gens Wii port got turned into Colors but I don't have a solid source on that
Yeah people mentioned a possible generations wii port but i couldn't find anything offical on that, im pretty sure they were just being made at the same time and they borrowed elements from one another but dont hold me to that im just speculating
@@Jetter06 I see.
Getting major nostalgia for these unreleased games and shows 😅😂 Amazing video, love your enthusiasm!
That would be awful if SegaPede were relased in France because "Sega Pede" means litteraly "Sega Fag".
I absolutely love stuff like this, cancelled games are so interesting, and sonic is pretty cool, W video
Thank you!! I plan to make more videos like this in the future so I hope you enjoy them as well!!
Great job with the video! Just a fun fact, you actually missed a cancelled Sonic game but I dont blame you. This game is called Sonic and the Level Creator. This game had a Sonic Official Level Maker that used Sonic 1 assets and even had an exclusive Zone 7 added to it that seemed more a Sonic CD zone in terms of style with a Sonic 4 theme song. You can search it on RUclips to get more information :)
Either way great job with the video!
No flippin way, 😅 i have spent almost 3 months getting this damn directors cut created and your telling me i just missed one if the coolest most obscure games that sonic has ever had??? Imma spin dash into some spikes i swear lmao
On a serious note im glad you enjoyed the video! And thank you so much for telling me about this sonic level maker! Imma make a whooooole video on it mark my words lol
You are welcome! This Sonic and the Level Creator game was made on Flash by the way. Despite there being many Flash preservation projects from both Sonic Flash Games and Sonic Flash Websites (Microsites), Sonic and the Level Creator is one of those games that was never preserved and unfortunately last time I checked it could not be played, which is a shame.
Either way as far as I recall now this is the only Sonic game you missed out on so great job! If you ever need some help with video topics feel free to reach out and I will gladly help out! Have a good rest of a day!
@@Jetter06 You could simply do another video talking about that project alone so you don't need to redo the video for the third time.
@@Jetter06might have to do a small video on it lol
@@LogicLeftTheGameHe is about to do the Director's Cut Plus DLC of the video 🤣
Great video dude. You even mention the *Sonic SATAM game* that I don't see a lot of other channels even mention. That game would of started an interesting line of games if it did get released. Good research on your part 👍
Absolutely amazing video with an immense amount of work put into it. You deserve way more subs and likes and views. Absolute beautiful amount of effort 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!!! Your kind words mean the world to me!!
3:30 Sonic Origins being the better way to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles when compared to Sonic 3 Complete is debatable.
I completely agree! I didnt mean that sonic 3 complete wasnt better then orgins, i meant that there are easier and more accessible ways of playing it for people since not everyone wants to use roms and emulators and or go out to find a flash cart
@@Jetter06 In that case it makes sense.
I'll admit, some of the omissions in the original cut did irk a little, so I'm glad you doubled down and made this even more comprehensive.
Yeah Im happy I went back and re did this video, im very proud of how the directors version turned out!
I rarely share stuff with friends but this is so high-effort and thorough it deserves it
Thank you!! Thats means a lot to me!!
Now that I think about it. sonic has more cancelled games than published games.
THE KING IS BACK YET AGAIN SLAY KING
Knuckles Chaotix was also going to get a port on the Sonic Gems Collection. Also I don't remember which issue it was but in the Archie Comics around 1997 or so, In an interview with Tails writen toward the back of the comic. He mentioned a game called Virtua-Sonic which was in the works. I wonder if this is a long lost game or if it turned into something like Sonic R or Sonic Ride.
*Correction: Virtua Sonic was mentioned in Archie Sonic Issue 36 (And Tails Wasn't Writing it.) The Release date was said to be Winter 96 and I would have come out for the Saturn.
Moral of the story is if you’re working on a Sonic game that has some form of the word “extreme” in it, quit while you’re ahead
It's depressing how much wasted potential many of these titles had, and it goes to show how imperfect we are as humans
You are so underrated, you definitely get my subscribe. Keep it up!!!
Thank you so much!!
(EDIT: Keeping this comment up for the algorithm)
Actually, I didnt this time! There is two ways to spell cancelled!
1) canceled [this is the US version
2) cancelled [ This is the UK version
I honestly just perfer the UK version of the word so I spelled it that way instead this time, 🤣 trust me im not about to miss spell that word a second time
@@Jetter06 I’m so sorry I didn’t know that there were different spellings I looked up right after typing that comment I feel so dumb 😭
@@Change51 its all good! No worries!
Popful Mail (or however you spell it) + Sonic physics + Sonic style = heck yeah!
Man Sega should bring back Sonic Orgins and Sonic Synergy and hire the original development team again and give them the time they need to make these games extremely great and extremely awesome and I know Sonic synergy was basically the same thing as sonic orgins with a few changes but still Sega should do smart and good ideas such as bringing these games back
I love this i was watching the original video then i saw this in my recommended and i had to watch this version I'm subscribing
Uncut peak? Now we really eating good tonight
A prototype for THE Sonic 4 would be a huge deal.
For real! Imagine seeing a true 2d sonic game on the Saturn that would continue where sonic 3&K ended!
For Sonic Underground (OH BOY I have Watched a few episodes from a Sonic 90s TV series collection
*[VIDEOGAMES]*
1:21 - Sonic 3+
3:51 - Sonic STI
6:10 - Sonic 16 (SATAM)
7:01 - Sonic Crackers
8:40 - Sonic 4 (Saturn)
12:35 - Sonic Sports
13:56 - SEGAPede
15:50 - Sister Sonic
18:15 - Treasure Tails
19:24 - Sonic MARS (32x)
21:31 - Sonic X-Treme
25:04 - Sonic Saturn
26:34 - Sonic Adventure (Saturn)
29:08 - Sonic DS
30:39 - Sonic Chronicles 2
33:00 - Sonic and The Shadow World
34:15 - Sonic Extreme (XBOX)
35:52 - Sonic Day
38:04 - Sonic Runners
39:53 - Sonic 4 Episode III
42:56 - Sonic ExtReme (GBA)
*[ARCADES]*
Sega is a company defined on its bad decisions
It’s a miracle that the company hasn’t gone under, and they almost did in 2015. Sonic was on the path of extinction before the movie saved it and brought it back to relevance
sonic 3 was also considered to have isometric gameplay which may be what that one mockup was for and not actually the later real 3D Blast
Awesome video I’m already halfway and I’m loving it I’m going to watch all of it
Aw man, wonder what it would be like in the timeline that got Sonic 4 back then
There is a sonic x-treat fan project on game jolt, it’s made with unity, but is still very good
Great intresting video, defenetly a bit more acurate information than the last one, however as one of the 4 ppl in the world that like sonic 4 I need to say that only ep2 was a comercial failure, ep 1 sold 1milion copies and at the time of its release recived favorable reviews. If you see "some call me jhonhy" one of his first videos is a sonic 4 review and I think he liked it at the time.
Sonic “Crackers” is actually called Sonic Clackers. Due to a translation error, it was accidentally called Crackers. Clackers are the toys that has like one string with 2 balls connected to the end. It was supposed to be like 2 characters with a clacker. Sort of how the physics worked in the final version of Knuckles Chaotix.
[Info from Big Sleeter btw you should watch his content]
I'm rewatching but can't tell what I miss or if I'm just a fucking nerd that knows too much sonic
Lmao, well this new video adds info to several entrys, fixes spelling mistakes and other issues, and adds a whoooole bunch of new entry's that were not in the orginal! Like the supposed sonic 4 for the saturn, sonic free riders for the wii, the offical sonic webcomic, and so on and so forth lol
1:28:05 Japanese/French Translator here. For anybody wondering about volume 2... yeah there's only 11 pages that are actual comics in it. The rest is a game guide. I read through it and the comics are mainly sonic/knuckles doing a tiny bit of remenscing and that's it. Imo it's not really worth translating but I could throw out a google doc with the translation if people really want it.
Wow, I learned a lot from this video.
sonic 4 ep 2 wii was canceled cuz nintendo didn't allow the file size for the wii ware games to exceed a certain amount, it was impossible to fit the game
for ep 1 they had to remade the music in MIDI so they can fit the game in the file size limit
58:17 ...well, it's funny how the title is ''all canceled Sonic projects" and...those two fan projects from this part was also canceled. Big F.
Wait wait, misfit pack AND the sonic mania 2 pack both got canceled?? I thought they were already completed
@@Jetter06 Nope...they just released a unifished builds.
Misfit pack got canceled almost one year ago, while S2 Mania is missing a lot of bosses and a lot of Stages was not finished, like the Metropolis Zone, Sky Chase with no enemies, Wing Fortress with nothing than the tilesets, and Sand Shower, Wind Ocean and Cyber City was also not finished.
Both got canceled :( the misfit ''final'' build is way more buggy than the demos we got in SAGE...
@@Vebills dang that sucks! Both projects were so cool, its a shame they didnt get finished
@@Jetter06 yea..
Sonic day reminds me a lot of the nitrome game Leap day. They play mostly the same. It is similar to it’s act and day system.
I may sound crazy but i think i have a theory. Sonic day was reused for Leap day. But hey, that is just a theory, a canceled game theory. Thanks for reading.
The old Movie Sonic design wasn't a publicity stunt. It was actually gonna be used. The on set eye reference prop was of the old design all the first movie's merch aside from books and plushies used the old design, leaked screenshots of early scenes of the film had the old design, they actually were gonna use it. If it was a publicity stunt, the movie wouldn't have gotten delayed.
Sonic 4 on the sega saturn wouldve been INCREDIBLE. The saturn is a monster when it comes to 2d graphics and they couldve went absolutely hog wild with it. That project being cancelled for nothing was legit tragic, one of the worst decisions they made
expectative: TON OF SONIC GAMESSSSS
reality: *da way*
I remember playing Sonic Runners. That game was fun and cute.
This video reminds me a lot of Sonic 3K a complete version of a product that wasn’t fully completed originally so it was combined
Your comment reminds me that Mario 2 was Doki Doki Panic in Japan, because that's also a fact that people enjoy repeating
Sonic Boom Rise Of Lyric is the saddest gaming story I've ever heard. There was so much potential, and it was scrambled by SEGA themselves.
Sonic Xtreme would be sonic robo blast 3 if it was remade
Seems like segas their own worst enemy
i sense a pattern, "this is a cool idea and sega said no/couldn't do it in time"
@Jetter06 thanks for informing about cancellation sonic games 🎮, now I understand what happened to the other games 🎮 no wonder Sega is the second gaming company in the world 🌍
I really want to see a segapede remake. The concept is pretty good, and there is so many possibilities for power ups. I'ma stop here tho so this don't become a rant
I’ll come back later to finish watching the video, 55:00.
I think that Sonic STI picture was probably die
Early concept for sonic 3D blast
Someone theorizes that Sonic Forces is a bad sequel to Sonic Chronicles.
What I mean is that at the end of Sonic chronicles Dr.Eggman takes over the world when Sonic gets back from the twilight cage, and someone theorizes that Sonic forces takes place after Dr.Eggman takes over.
Ya gotta love sega for vanceling some of the coolest consepts of the entire series
37:58 ok so that's why this game feels so familiar, they actually released another game called ''Leap Day''
it's pretty much the same
This is just my opinion, but I think sonic 3D blast should’ve been called sonic 32X and released on the 32X
Edit: I made this when I was like 10 minutes into the video and then it turns out there was a canceled sonic game called sonic 32X so never mind about the last paragraph I said about sonic 3-D blast
from what i've heard, way back in early 1993, sega wanted to make sonic 3, a 3d game, and that 3d game idea was too obnoxious, so sometime in june 1993, sonic team started working on the sonic 3 we all know and love, which might be why they split it in two. there wasnt enough time to make a full game like that. and that cancelled 3d game idea mightve been Sonic STI, but then evolved into sonic 3d blast.
Yea I heard that all the 3D sprites in it (title screen, special stages) are leftovers of that
incredible video, subbed and liked
Thank you!!! You support is appreciated!!
damn, i wish Sonic OVA came back.
Fun fact: I was born the day, Sonic Underground's last episode aired
... It's actually really upsetting for me, because I actually really like this cartoon
Me:Looks at thumbnail Also me:NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bro didn't talk about the cancelled Sonic NFT project 😪 2/10
I'm joking. Good video! It did take me 3 days to watch it lol
I have a theory that the sequel to sonic chronicles was reworked into either forces or unleashed, forces being the most likely one
Both share similarities to the original sequel idea but forces shares more
OG: going around the world amassing an army
Forces: does that too
OG: Taking down the eggman empire in a war
Forces: huh, does that too
OG: Big bad manipulating things behind the scenes
Forces: ...KIINNNDDA does that
and unleashed shares some of these too, this could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt tho
47:10 i completely agree with this and i think it would be good
it's still missing sonic hoshi 😭
or is this just official games and there's a concerning amount of official sonic games canned
This particular video is focusing solely on official canceled Sonic projects, however I did make a poll recently asking about what the next big Sonic video will be and on that pole was a option about tackling all of the Lost Sonic fan projects! It didn't win the poll but I still plan to make that video eventually!
@@Jetter06 yippee
Amazing video. When is the next one?
Well the next video is a long play of Sonic Forces! the next BIG sonic video will be next month!
More Heavy and Bomb erasure 😢
In my opinion archie sonic is up there in terms of being One of the most unfortunate. Cancelations in sonic history It was different in the fact that. They put thought and cared into what they made most of the time at least 😅 as a huge sonic fan growing up that wanted every thing sonic they played such a huge role in my life and they will always have a special place in my heart
I really do wish Chronicles got a sequel. The Gizoids are my favorite thing in Sonic lore and having just Battle and Chronicles talk about their lore and origins kinda sucks.
guys "the air" song for windy valley in sonic adventure is the level theme for sonic 3d blast
"sonic 3 AIR is the defenitive way to play S3AK" me with an emulator-
Psssh, we don’t need Mania 2 or Adventure 3. All we need is Sonic’s Schoolhouse 2
1:47:43 Keep in mind i know what it is, never watched that show, i grew up watching Adventures of SonicThe Hedgehog. So seeing all these other characters just looks like weird fan characters. well at least this image more so. man Sonic has a lot of weird stuff back in the 90s, then again everything thing did lol
1:55:34 sonic fans have terrifying power. lol
Duuuuuude... Segapede and Treasure Tails would've been so damn fun. Their premises sound so promising. Sega really fucked over STI
So sorry! I only just noticed your comment on the last video. I see you found the game books that I mentioned. It’s not related to sonic but around the same time we got 10 Super Mario, 2 legend of Zelda and 2 lemmings game books too. All were fantastic. There might have been more but that’s all I ever saw as a kid.
For the sonic books. I could probably find you scans of the 4 that I mentioned. I noticed you showed them in the pic but didn’t talk about them. They’re super hard to find so it’s no surprise if you missed them. After a decade plus of searching. I actually find the books on Amazon of all places lol but I’m pretty sure I could find the scans on the internet if you wanted them.
Wasn’t there going to be a third story book Sonic game that involved Sonic being sent to Ancient Greece?
You should put directors cut in the title too…
Good idea! Just did it!
@@Jetter06cool!
Since Sonic X-treme, Sonic eXtreme, and Sonic ExtReme all got cancelled, how many years do you think it'll be before a Sonic eXXXtreme ends up in the Super Director's Cut? 😏
Well, Sonic Advance 3's final zone is called The Altar unlike final zones from precedesors.
I love this video. It is PHENOMENAL. But I do gotta ask, why did you take the Sonic Fanon wiki as your main source for Sonic 4 Episode III? Not tryina judge you or anythin', and that probably IS how it would play, but I'd love to know.
Thank you! Also It was the only source that I could reliably find, some websites had inaccurate info and or not enough, and ive never had any issues with the sonic fanon wiki befor so I mean, i just used the resources avalible to me that I was aware of! Why ya ask? Is there a better sight I could use in the future or look out for when im doing reaserch? If so id love to know for future videos!
Wow the director got cut so many times!