Heyo everyone!! So I know this video has several mistakes and issues not to mention a bunch of missing entry's! All of these issues have been fixed in the Directors Cut version of this video! Go and check it out, there is a bunch of new info and cool things to be seen!! ruclips.net/video/FBhFSXx1MPE/видео.html&t
I'm surprised you didn't cover Sonic Unleashed's planned PC port. The main reason we know it was potentially coming is due to files within Generations.
The files in Generations were development software used to debug Unleashed in general that were carried over and used for Generations; this doesn't mean a PC port was planned, just that a PC was used to develop the games.
Nope, this wasn't a thing. Those install image files, pngs of Werehog and Amy and stuff, were going to be used when installing the game on PS3, a feature not a lot of PS3 games used, but it had the same effect as installing a 360 game- less disc drive noise and slightly faster loading times. But this option was dropped [probably because PS3 was awful to code for]
While technically not a cancelled game I feel like Sonic Synergy could be on this list. While it became Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, it was vastly different from what Synergy would have actually been like.
Sonic Runners as a whole was just so interesting. A bit of a shame I never got the chance to play it during its soft-launch or when it came out, but Sonic Runners Revival fills that gap nicely. That being said, I have two other things to say. First, a correction for how leveling up any characters you owned. Leveling up characters involved collecting Rings during your run, once your run was over, any Rings that you had banked via the checkpoints that would randomly show up would not only be added to your overall total of rings, but turned into experience for any characters you had chosen for the run too. The Crystals were just for points, nothing more, nothing less. Second, if you want a more detailed history of Sonic Runners, a RUclipsr named PatMac made a video detailing almost the everything about Sonic Runners.
but didn't Sonic Colours came out *before* Sonic Generations? Planet Wisp is literally one of the stages in Sonic Generations, so either Sonic Team have been planing Sonic Generations before the development of Sonic Colours, or it's just a big fat lie.
@@CrappyProductionsOfficialGenerations was in development since 2009 before Colors came out so yes it was before Colors, in fact some assets from Colors were leftovers from the Wii version of Generations since they couldn't get that game to run on the system
@@neomachine855before Sonic Colours came out or before it is in development? Because if it's only just before Sonic Colours releases it's quite unlikely that Sega would just change the engine mid development, but if it's before Sonic Colours even started being developed, then yea there might be a slight chance that Sonic Colours is actually using the cancelled Sonic Generations Wii engine. (Edit: I just checked, Sonic Colours started its development in 2008, so it's unlikely that Sonic Colours is actually using the Generations Wii engine, it's more possible that it's the other way around) As for the "leftover" assets, it is possible that since Sonic Colours and Sonic Generations are being worked on at the same time, they share some assets from Gens to Colours as a base and then modified it and just forgot to remove the Gens assets.
@@CrappyProductionsOfficial I'm pretty sure generations started first in development at Sonic Team before Colors became a thing, they knew that they couldn't get the Wii version working due to hardware limitations so that's why Colors was made in the first place so Wii owners could have a Sonic game while not being left out
@@neomachine855i mean, wii owners aren't being left out by sonic even if colours isn't on it, they still have the storybooks series, but that's besides the point
To be more precise about the Archie Comics, the Ken Penders lawsuit wasn't actually what made Sega finish their partnership with Archie. I mean, I'm sure it played a role, but the true consequences of it was a soft reboot of the comics which still continued from October 2013 to February 2017, so it was definitly not cancelled at the time. Apparently, they cancelled it because they wanted to take the comics to a new direction and make it fit more with the games timeline. The poor sales, the reprints and the lawsuits would've also pushed Sega into cancel it, but the Ken Penders lawsuit was certainly not the only thing that made Sega cancel the comic! ^^
Lessons learned from this video: If your sonic game has any variation of the word Extreme in it, it’s probably not making it. And if your sonic game literally as the acronym for Sexually Transmitted Infection(s), your game is probably not making it… for good reason
This video was so good that i didn't even notice the full hour pass by. I am actually impressed by the amount of media that i had no idea existed, nice video
@@miwiki6 Wow you watched both of those long vids?? omg thank you so much!!! I'm glad you enjoyed them!! I've got a directors cut version of the canceled sonic project's on the way that's gonna add a whooole bunch of new stuff so I hope you enjoy that to when it comes out!
God the presentation of this video is so good. Perfect pacing, wasting no time, very informational, no back tracking or random tangents, just a good hour of cancelled Sonic media. It's perfect Also the custom logos were absolutely amazing, huge props to the artist
Thank you so so much! Im so glad you enjoyed the video! I spent a lot of time creating this project and i thought it came out great! Also speaking on the custome logos! I actually made a good handful of them myself! Graphic desighn is kinda one of my passions! ( i even went as far as to recreate beta logos and made them look cleaner, Sonic Saturn and Sonic DS are great examples of this ) There are also an equal amount i didnt make and or i modified them to look just a bit better but i made sure to credit all of the amazing artists in the description!
Okay for anyone seeing this im going to create a DX edition of this video that adds games i missed and fixes mistakes so that will be out in the coming weeks. With that said, here are the biggest mistakes! [ Yes i said ISO instead of IOS [ I said sega pedeY instead of segapede [ I spelled cancelled as canceld [ I miss pronounced Nihon falcom [ Sister sonic portion is partially incorrect ( i said westernization ) [ I pronounced DIC entertainment as dicK entertainment instead of deek entertainment [ I called Pac-Man Mania, Pac-Man Mania 3D All of these issues will be fixed in the DX edition of this video, and I apologize for the mistakes made here and I'll try to do better quality control in the future! On a final note the DX Edition will also fix editing mistakes that have been found in this video
It happens, I was just very confused by what the hell ISO was supposed to mean in this context haha. Glad you acknowledged it We all say DICK entertainment intentionally tho
SegaSonic "Bros" should be "Brothers" due to the period at the end, like "Mister" being shortened to "Mr." Like, what even is a "mrrrr"? A miserable pile of secrets is what. lol
dang, i didnt finished to write down the whole comment lol i really appreciate the effort, THE MASSIVE EFFORT to comp all of scrapped sonic's stuff, I really enjoyed that hour!! keep the good job m8
This is the first video I think I've watched from you, and my god, how has this only got a few hundred views? The quality AND quantity of this video is something else entirely! Keep it up!
You forgot to mention the canceled _Sonic_ cartoon spin-off _Super Sonic Sisters_ . The YT member known as Good Ol' Groovy Jake did a video on it a while back. Great video, though!
Huh, funny that the idea for Sonic 4 Ep 3 sounds a awfuly similar to Superstars minus the blue spheres special stages from Sonic 3, the fact that it could had have multiplayer and 4 playable characters including amy makes me think that they reused the idea for Superstars adding Trip and the whole sungazer dragon idea to make it less similar to Sonic 4. It makes more sense when you think that Jun Senoue used the same style of music that Sonic 4 had and it makes me think that the songs he did was meant to be for Ep 3 and he just reused them for Superstars, its not the first time he does that though he literally reused music from Sonic 3D Blast into Sonic Adventure.
The most interesting thing about Penders v. Archie was how Archie lost. Archie had somehow lost their copy of his 1993 contract in 1996. When he found out about this in late 2008, he started copyrighting all the characters and concepts he made during his tenure, about 250-ish characters. In the world of comics, most contract are work-for-hire where any ideas and characters you make become the property of the company or rights holder, in this case Sega. Without that contract, Sega and Archie have no claim to those characters. In the story, this led to the Super Genesis Wave which was used to reboot Archie's run until 2017. It removed ALL Archie-exclusive characters save for the core Freedom Fighters (Sally, Antoine, Rotor, Bunnie, Nicole, and Uncle Chuck). Not even non-Penders characters were safe for fear of future lawsuits and Sega's tighter grip. Worst part is that they were in the middle of a great storyline where Eggman had roboticized Sally, upgraded her for combat, and used her knowledge to strike devastating blows against all in his way. She likely would have killed her former compatriots had the Super Genesis Wave not happened.
The story I've always heard about Sonic Saturn was that Yuji Naka didn't like the Sonic Saturn demo because it was using the Nights engine without his permission to do so
When I was younger I have a very vivid memory of me watching one of those Sonic X vol.1 thingies ish. It was a pretty long time ago but I just remembered the first sonic x episode on the Gameboy Advance.
I feel like Sonic 06 is kinda like it’s own cancelled game because it was suppose to be way bigger, but the sonic team was cut in half to work on sonic and the secret rings for wii, and they were trying to rush out the game for ps3 and Xbox, it’s kinda ironic how it was suppose to be the most grand game in the franchise and is the most hated. If events happened differently we might of had a completely different feeling game. Also, nice vid, have no idea how you knew of all these games lol, so very entertaining learning the history.
Sega Sonic wasn't just going to get ported to the 32X. It was also going to get re-released in the Sonic collection called Sonic Mega Collection(released for the GameCube in 2002). Sega Sonic was planned for the collection,but it got removed because of issues with the emulator because they couldn't make a good way to replace the track ball mechanic. And just like how Sega Sonic was released in 1993 in Japan,it was also released around the world(like in the USA)but it was still all in japanese. People who searched the games files found unused english text(to replace the japanese text when Robotnik was speaking)and even sprites which were based off the SatAM design for Robotnik. There were also found 2 different sprites for Robotnik's name. The first one is "Eggman-Evil Scientist" and the Second "Robotnik-Evil Scientist". The explanation for why there is english text calling him Eggman and Robotnik,is because Sega of Japan didn't know what name they should use(for the english arcade release)
there was also another planned classic era tv series that never got put into development, very little is known about it but there is a video talking about the cancelled pitch and it's very interesting, and not only does it barely include sonic, instead his twin cousins, but it also takes place in space
"Super Sonic Sisters"; I've seen the RUclips video. Also, the idea might have come from the canceled attempt (by SEGA) to localize "Popful Mail" for the Mega CD as "Sister Sonic" (again, *a* cousin).
"Sonic STI" Can see why they cancelled that one lol Jokes aside, it looked amazing!! I love isometric pixel art. Such a shame they never got it off the ground.
This was all so so perfect! Thank you!! Except the Sonic DS commentary, that’s literally a proto boost formula style that has plagued the franchise for over a decade now :( But again otherwise perfect thank you!
Uh Sonic 4 was a failure because it was entirely recycled levels from sonic 1&2 in yucky 3D models and a third episode would have absolutely been yet another trainwreck.
Ken Penders did not win any of his lawsuits, no matter what he tells you. That he seemed to have enough grounds to make a case because of the nature of Archie's work-for-hire contacts (apparently, according to the somewhat suspect paperwork that the involved parties were/were not able to produce) was more than reason enough for Sega to terminate their relationship, and be far more cautious going forward.
@@7EEVEE here ya go! its called Unknown good future from sonic CD, its a fan created track in the CD style! there is a link to it! ruclips.net/video/kDsKb_OyXYc/видео.html
The information provided about Sonic 4 episode 3 here is all I need to conclude my theory about Sonic Superstars actually being the lost episode 3 is probably accurate.
A lot of these canceled concepts are used in Sonic Superstars. Particular Sonic Runners as I see the "gold" enemies on the stages just like in Superstars.
Damn, that's so ironic that SEGA decided to reject an actually good and creative idea of a mobile Sonic game like "Sonic Day", but instead still uses "Sonic Dash" and "Sonic Forces: Speed Battle", which are the worst and least creative mobile games possible
Man I didn't know there were so many!! I've watched Sonic RUclipsrs in the toilet for YEARS now, and I haven't heard of most of those. Sonic Mars got my attention the most, looks like it had potential. I can see it moving fast like a 2D Sonic game.
You havent seen anything yet! I made a directors cut of this video that adds a B U N C H of additional games, books, mangas and more that I missed in this video!! It also fixes mistakes and adds new info to some of the orginal entrys AND its 2 hours long! If your feeling brave and wanna waste 2 hours the DX video has got you covered lmao ruclips.net/video/FBhFSXx1MPE/видео.htmlsi=xKgMpjPFHJXxSclg
I've always wanted to see a full 3d sequel to sonic Battle preferably made by cyberconnect2 and bandai namco following the same structure that made up the naruto UNS series
nearly every item goes "SEGA got bored of it, but luckily fans put in loads of unpaid work to make something better than the official thing ever would have been"
Didnt even know that was a thing till you mentioned it, all while i was doing my reaserch i never saw that mentioned until i specifically searched for it Imma add it to the Master list and probably make a part 2 if any more canceld projects i missed come along!
@@Jetter06TCRF has a decent amount of info for stuff like Xtreme and other cancelled sonic projects. Like how Sonic Pool (Bonus stages of Sonic Saturn) was actually first moved to an iteration of Sonic Xtreme shortly before it was cancelled and then moved 3D Blast Saturn where it got the can.
A very good video man! But you forgot to talk about Archie Sonic Online, it's almost the same as Sonic The Comic Online, only that no official writers or artists came back
Actually i did refrence ASO in the sonic underground segment! I didnt refrence it during the archi portion because from my understanding it doesnt continue the story where it was left off in the comics but rather tells stories as if the genisis wave never happend
@@Jetter06 ooh my bad, makes sense actually! But at least mention it on the Archie segment and you make it clear that it follows the events if the genesis wave didn't happen
I wonder what would happen if all these dead projects suddenly got uncanceled and were actually set to be released possibly next year and moving onwards with the sonic ip what's the first thing y'all would do?
I dont really get why Sonic Crackers is in this video. It got turned into Knuckles Chaotix, and wasnt even supposed to be released to the public even when they started making it
Do you have a source suggesting the Japanese producers intended to make more installments? You know an OVA stands for Original Video Animation right? They are usually stand alone animations, or hyper short collections, such as the original six episodes of FLCL. But it is for sure my favorite animation of sonic, so if we could’ve ever gotten more I sure would like to know!
Popful Mail/Sister Sonic really saddens me, Sonic barely gets any RPGs or Action RPGs (aside from Chronicles), I would’ve loved that Sonic take on a different genre game just like how Puyo Puyo was Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine. Sonic Xtreme had character named Tiara Boobowski which has an amazing design I wish could’ve been repurposed for another Sonic Game.
Same here, i wish we could have gotten a look at sister sonic just so we have an idea of what it could have been like! ( aside from the tiny concept i made i mean, like somthing thats actually offical )
I know some cancelled Sonic games like ke Sonic Extreme and Sonic 3+ but wow I didn't even know there were so many. Not to mention that Sonic movie beased off of Sonic Saturn.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles was split into 2 games for time consraits, sega genesis size limitations being up to 12MB, & deadlines for mcdonald"s toy promotions
I wanna correct you on the Sister Sonic part, Sister Sonic wasn't a western adaptation of Popful Mail, it was going to be the Sega CD version we actually recieved. Good video anyways.
Seems like 90% of the cancelled games were just bad ideas from American devs who didn't understand the appeal of Sonic's gameplay. Like I enjoy Sega Technical Institute's games and their grungy style, but all of their Sonic games look like they'd suck to play, including all versions of X-Treme. I mean, STI even finished and released a Sonic game, Spinball, and it's widely recognized as "just okay at best"
1:03 - If you want a rom image of a final version of Sonic 3 +, download "Sonic 3 Complete". EDIT - In a similar fashion, hackers have also fixed the port of "Doom" on the 32X, and are still upgrading it. it's called "Doom Resurrection", and is worth downloading for your emulator.
Everytime i tried to use footage from the show I was hit with a copyright claim by wildbrain who has all the episodes reposted on their channel, the only way i could get around the copyright stike was for me to alter the footage, i have no clue why im some special case cause ive seen tons of other people use Satam footage with no issue, it was very frustrating to say the least because it ended up delaying when I could post the video
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Heyo everyone!! So I know this video has several mistakes and issues not to mention a bunch of missing entry's! All of these issues have been fixed in the Directors Cut version of this video! Go and check it out, there is a bunch of new info and cool things to be seen!!
ruclips.net/video/FBhFSXx1MPE/видео.html&t
Guys I think his favorite game is Sonic Riders
Mine is sonic superstars
@@AnnoyedMercy yeah
I still feel like we were robbed of the Sonic OVA becoming it's own series. I really wish it became it's own long-running show
I agree; my favorite character there is the Owl character. :)
I'm surprised you didn't cover Sonic Unleashed's planned PC port.
The main reason we know it was potentially coming is due to files within Generations.
oh wait that was gonna happen? I've gotta read up on this
yeah and that one time they legit opened the port in windows 7 at GDC (i'm going off a discord screenshot idk the specifics)
The files in Generations were development software used to debug Unleashed in general that were carried over and used for Generations; this doesn't mean a PC port was planned, just that a PC was used to develop the games.
Nope, this wasn't a thing. Those install image files, pngs of Werehog and Amy and stuff, were going to be used when installing the game on PS3, a feature not a lot of PS3 games used, but it had the same effect as installing a 360 game- less disc drive noise and slightly faster loading times. But this option was dropped [probably because PS3 was awful to code for]
@@aortaplatinum Ah, fair enough. Good thinking!
While technically not a cancelled game I feel like Sonic Synergy could be on this list. While it became Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, it was vastly different from what Synergy would have actually been like.
Could you list some of the major differences? Normally i would have added old betas but i wasnt aware that it was super diffrent
Sonic Runners as a whole was just so interesting. A bit of a shame I never got the chance to play it during its soft-launch or when it came out, but Sonic Runners Revival fills that gap nicely.
That being said, I have two other things to say. First, a correction for how leveling up any characters you owned. Leveling up characters involved collecting Rings during your run, once your run was over, any Rings that you had banked via the checkpoints that would randomly show up would not only be added to your overall total of rings, but turned into experience for any characters you had chosen for the run too. The Crystals were just for points, nothing more, nothing less.
Second, if you want a more detailed history of Sonic Runners, a RUclipsr named PatMac made a video detailing almost the everything about Sonic Runners.
we are near the end of 2023 and yet we still don't have a fan game like Sonic day
I remember hearing the wii port of Sonic Generations got turned into Sonic Colours.
but didn't Sonic Colours came out *before* Sonic Generations?
Planet Wisp is literally one of the stages in Sonic Generations, so either Sonic Team have been planing Sonic Generations before the development of Sonic Colours, or it's just a big fat lie.
@@CrappyProductionsOfficialGenerations was in development since 2009 before Colors came out so yes it was before Colors, in fact some assets from Colors were leftovers from the Wii version of Generations since they couldn't get that game to run on the system
@@neomachine855before Sonic Colours came out or before it is in development? Because if it's only just before Sonic Colours releases it's quite unlikely that Sega would just change the engine mid development, but if it's before Sonic Colours even started being developed, then yea there might be a slight chance that Sonic Colours is actually using the cancelled Sonic Generations Wii engine. (Edit: I just checked, Sonic Colours started its development in 2008, so it's unlikely that Sonic Colours is actually using the Generations Wii engine, it's more possible that it's the other way around)
As for the "leftover" assets, it is possible that since Sonic Colours and Sonic Generations are being worked on at the same time, they share some assets from Gens to Colours as a base and then modified it and just forgot to remove the Gens assets.
@@CrappyProductionsOfficial I'm pretty sure generations started first in development at Sonic Team before Colors became a thing, they knew that they couldn't get the Wii version working due to hardware limitations so that's why Colors was made in the first place so Wii owners could have a Sonic game while not being left out
@@neomachine855i mean, wii owners aren't being left out by sonic even if colours isn't on it, they still have the storybooks series, but that's besides the point
To be more precise about the Archie Comics, the Ken Penders lawsuit wasn't actually what made Sega finish their partnership with Archie. I mean, I'm sure it played a role, but the true consequences of it was a soft reboot of the comics which still continued from October 2013 to February 2017, so it was definitly not cancelled at the time.
Apparently, they cancelled it because they wanted to take the comics to a new direction and make it fit more with the games timeline. The poor sales, the reprints and the lawsuits would've also pushed Sega into cancel it, but the Ken Penders lawsuit was certainly not the only thing that made Sega cancel the comic! ^^
Lessons learned from this video:
If your sonic game has any variation of the word Extreme in it, it’s probably not making it.
And if your sonic game literally as the acronym for Sexually Transmitted Infection(s), your game is probably not making it… for good reason
Could you do one for canceled merch
Sonic STI was probably just an internal name as it was being made by Sega Technical Institute
This video was so good that i didn't even notice the full hour pass by. I am actually impressed by the amount of media that i had no idea existed, nice video
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@Jetter06 Your Sonic Superstars video is also great!!!!!
@@miwiki6 Wow you watched both of those long vids?? omg thank you so much!!! I'm glad you enjoyed them!!
I've got a directors cut version of the canceled sonic project's on the way that's gonna add a whooole bunch of new stuff so I hope you enjoy that to when it comes out!
@@Jetter06 Ooooh i'm excited for that!!
I'm kind of a fan of long videos, especially when it's on series or media I enjoy
God the presentation of this video is so good. Perfect pacing, wasting no time, very informational, no back tracking or random tangents, just a good hour of cancelled Sonic media. It's perfect
Also the custom logos were absolutely amazing, huge props to the artist
Thank you so so much! Im so glad you enjoyed the video! I spent a lot of time creating this project and i thought it came out great!
Also speaking on the custome logos! I actually made a good handful of them myself! Graphic desighn is kinda one of my passions! ( i even went as far as to recreate beta logos and made them look cleaner, Sonic Saturn and Sonic DS are great examples of this )
There are also an equal amount i didnt make and or i modified them to look just a bit better but i made sure to credit all of the amazing artists in the description!
@@Jetter06 That's amazing, you're really talented. Sega should definitely hire you lol
Yeah I was really happy there were no stupid asides of overly long jokes or loud is funny moments, just well paced information on an interesting topic
Sonic STI? Sounds like a medical condition that you don’t want haha
Or a thing that JaSonic would get
slow clap.... *FAST CLAP!*
@@TheHaggisBasher sonics so fast he can say sugondeiz in under a millisecond. Followed by…
*NUTZ*
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sonic was never popular in japan, if it wasn't for sonic to come to america, most likely we wouldn't have any more sonic now a days
Sonic always has been more popular in the US yet no one there gets Sonic, funnily enough
Okay for anyone seeing this im going to create a DX edition of this video that adds games i missed and fixes mistakes so that will be out in the coming weeks.
With that said, here are the biggest mistakes!
[ Yes i said ISO instead of IOS
[ I said sega pedeY instead of segapede
[ I spelled cancelled as canceld
[ I miss pronounced Nihon falcom
[ Sister sonic portion is partially incorrect ( i said westernization )
[ I pronounced DIC entertainment as dicK entertainment instead of deek entertainment
[ I called Pac-Man Mania, Pac-Man Mania 3D
All of these issues will be fixed in the DX edition of this video, and I apologize for the mistakes made here and I'll try to do better quality control in the future!
On a final note the DX Edition will also fix editing mistakes that have been found in this video
You also mispronounced Pete Capella's name as "Peeny Capella"
It happens, I was just very confused by what the hell ISO was supposed to mean in this context haha. Glad you acknowledged it
We all say DICK entertainment intentionally tho
Another mistake:
Called the game Pac-Mania "Pac-Man Mania 3D"
You also called little planet little big planet which was pretty cool imo
SegaSonic "Bros" should be "Brothers" due to the period at the end, like "Mister" being shortened to "Mr."
Like, what even is a "mrrrr"? A miserable pile of secrets is what. lol
dang, i didnt finished to write down the whole comment lol
i really appreciate the effort, THE MASSIVE EFFORT to comp all of scrapped sonic's stuff, I really enjoyed that hour!! keep the good job m8
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Fun fact, the late writer, Ben Hurst, confirmed he planned to have Robotnik return in Seasons 3 & 4/the movie.
This is actually useful information and a wonderful contribution to the Sonic community! I applaud your work, good sir👏👏👏
Thank you so much!!
It's crazy how far Sonic X Treme got in development just for it to be canned last minute.
Honstely! Im just glad most of Sonic Xtreame's development has been preserved and we have so many awsome fan works to bring sonic Xtream back to life!
Oh no, babe, I contracted the *Sonic STI*
Appreciate the effort and time that went into this video. Interesting stuff!
This is the first video I think I've watched from you, and my god, how has this only got a few hundred views? The quality AND quantity of this video is something else entirely! Keep it up!
Thank you so so much! This video took about a whole month to create so it warms my heart to hear you say that!
@@Jetter06 Yeah, this looks original. I'd like to see more! 😀
Yuji Naka always has to cancel a project he doesn’t like
Good quality video bro I can tell u put a lot of work into ur content keep it up man 🙏
Thank you so much! Ill keep trying my best!
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definitely wasn't expecting to hear littlebigplanet mentioned, hah! wonderful video :-)
You forgot to mention the canceled _Sonic_ cartoon spin-off _Super Sonic Sisters_ . The YT member known as Good Ol' Groovy Jake did a video on it a while back. Great video, though!
Woah what!! I never knew that existed! Thats so cool! Well i guess there is going to be another addition to the DX canceled sonic video lmao
@@Jetter06: Sonic was such a big deal between 1991 and 1994. I wonder how much money was wasted on these canceled projects.
welcome to the rabbit hole that's called: the sonic fandom
hope you're happy about what you're doing brian
Huh, funny that the idea for Sonic 4 Ep 3 sounds a awfuly similar to Superstars minus the blue spheres special stages from Sonic 3, the fact that it could had have multiplayer and 4 playable characters including amy makes me think that they reused the idea for Superstars adding Trip and the whole sungazer dragon idea to make it less similar to Sonic 4.
It makes more sense when you think that Jun Senoue used the same style of music that Sonic 4 had and it makes me think that the songs he did was meant to be for Ep 3 and he just reused them for Superstars, its not the first time he does that though he literally reused music from Sonic 3D Blast into Sonic Adventure.
Hope you're doing well homie! Glad to see you're still making videos
this was a great video! thank you for providing all those links! ill be sure to check out that sonic gear site
you should make more on those a deep look on every cancelled x Project.
Ive been thinking about it! Though i doubt they will ever be as successful as this video lol
That Sonic Runners game hurts for me. A week into me finally upgrading to a better phone to play it that game got canned. I was so salty.
cool video dude! as a long-time fan of sonic i remember some of these games initial announcements! maaaan so maany games id kill to see finished ; ;
The most interesting thing about Penders v. Archie was how Archie lost. Archie had somehow lost their copy of his 1993 contract in 1996. When he found out about this in late 2008, he started copyrighting all the characters and concepts he made during his tenure, about 250-ish characters. In the world of comics, most contract are work-for-hire where any ideas and characters you make become the property of the company or rights holder, in this case Sega. Without that contract, Sega and Archie have no claim to those characters.
In the story, this led to the Super Genesis Wave which was used to reboot Archie's run until 2017. It removed ALL Archie-exclusive characters save for the core Freedom Fighters (Sally, Antoine, Rotor, Bunnie, Nicole, and Uncle Chuck). Not even non-Penders characters were safe for fear of future lawsuits and Sega's tighter grip.
Worst part is that they were in the middle of a great storyline where Eggman had roboticized Sally, upgraded her for combat, and used her knowledge to strike devastating blows against all in his way. She likely would have killed her former compatriots had the Super Genesis Wave not happened.
Excellente video !
The story I've always heard about Sonic Saturn was that Yuji Naka didn't like the Sonic Saturn demo because it was using the Nights engine without his permission to do so
When I was younger I have a very vivid memory of me watching one of those Sonic X vol.1 thingies ish. It was a pretty long time ago but I just remembered the first sonic x episode on the Gameboy Advance.
It's shame we never got the Sonic anime. That was by far the coolest animated Sonic project in my opinion. Felt the most like the games too.
6:28 this game also looks like it would have used some of the scraped zones from sonic 2 like hidden palace zone for instance.
This video changed my life thank you Jetter06
The first ever video I saw from you and bro your a underrated RUclipsr this is awesome
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!!
46:34 I also heard they were also planning to port SegaSonic to the Sonic Gems Collection but couldn't because of the trackball controls.
Was not expecting Nihon Falcom to pop up lol. My favorite studio, and they keep surprising me
The most insulting part about Sonic Xtreme is that his assets were used in Sonic's Schoolhell
I feel like Sonic 06 is kinda like it’s own cancelled game because it was suppose to be way bigger, but the sonic team was cut in half to work on sonic and the secret rings for wii, and they were trying to rush out the game for ps3 and Xbox, it’s kinda ironic how it was suppose to be the most grand game in the franchise and is the most hated.
If events happened differently we might of had a completely different feeling game.
Also, nice vid, have no idea how you knew of all these games lol, so very entertaining learning the history.
Project 06 my guy
Didn't know I needed this! Thanks for the video!
Sega Sonic wasn't just going to get ported to the 32X. It was also going to get re-released in the Sonic collection called Sonic Mega Collection(released for the GameCube in 2002). Sega Sonic was planned for the collection,but it got removed because of issues with the emulator because they couldn't make a good way to replace the track ball mechanic. And just like how Sega Sonic was released in 1993 in Japan,it was also released around the world(like in the USA)but it was still all in japanese. People who searched the games files found unused english text(to replace the japanese text when Robotnik was speaking)and even sprites which were based off the SatAM design for Robotnik. There were also found 2 different sprites for Robotnik's name. The first one is "Eggman-Evil Scientist" and the Second "Robotnik-Evil Scientist". The explanation for why there is english text calling him Eggman and Robotnik,is because Sega of Japan didn't know what name they should use(for the english arcade release)
there was also another planned classic era tv series that never got put into development, very little is known about it but there is a video talking about the cancelled pitch and it's very interesting, and not only does it barely include sonic, instead his twin cousins, but it also takes place in space
"Super Sonic Sisters"; I've seen the RUclips video. Also, the idea might have come from the canceled attempt (by SEGA) to localize "Popful Mail" for the Mega CD as "Sister Sonic" (again, *a* cousin).
"Sonic STI"
Can see why they cancelled that one lol
Jokes aside, it looked amazing!! I love isometric pixel art. Such a shame they never got it off the ground.
This was all so so perfect! Thank you!! Except the Sonic DS commentary, that’s literally a proto boost formula style that has plagued the franchise for over a decade now :(
But again otherwise perfect thank you!
Uh Sonic 4 was a failure because it was entirely recycled levels from sonic 1&2 in yucky 3D models and a third episode would have absolutely been yet another trainwreck.
1:48 never been more terrified to learn about a cancelled game in my life there for a second lol
Ken Penders did not win any of his lawsuits, no matter what he tells you. That he seemed to have enough grounds to make a case because of the nature of Archie's work-for-hire contacts (apparently, according to the somewhat suspect paperwork that the involved parties were/were not able to produce) was more than reason enough for Sega to terminate their relationship, and be far more cautious going forward.
sonic 3d blast could have fit perfectly in here, makes me surprised that that got the green light over a lot of these
Me watching American and European Jetter06 fans debate over whether the Mega Drive is still a Sega Genesis:
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Great video man lots of interesting stuff fr
what ost did you use for the part starting at the 1:48 mark? it sounds nice 🙂
nevermind i just found it
WHAT IS IT
thanks for telling everyone
@@7EEVEE here ya go! its called Unknown good future from sonic CD, its a fan created track in the CD style! there is a link to it! ruclips.net/video/kDsKb_OyXYc/видео.html
Yuji naka definitely shut down all sega technical institution sonic games out of hate LMAOOO
He hated working with them on sonic 2
I honstely thought the same thing! Every game sega TI tried to make always got canned
The information provided about Sonic 4 episode 3 here is all I need to conclude my theory about Sonic Superstars actually being the lost episode 3 is probably accurate.
I think it’s best to forget that Sonic Armageddon was even a thing to begin with
A lot of these canceled concepts are used in Sonic Superstars.
Particular Sonic Runners as I see the "gold" enemies on the stages just like in Superstars.
For a minute I thought this would have been sonic fangame canceled projects.
That is actually a video idea thats in the pipe line! Ill probably start working on it in a month or two!
@Jetter06 thank you I've never had a popular youtuber reply
Damn, that's so ironic that SEGA decided to reject an actually good and creative idea of a mobile Sonic game like "Sonic Day", but instead still uses "Sonic Dash" and "Sonic Forces: Speed Battle", which are the worst and least creative mobile games possible
Man I didn't know there were so many!! I've watched Sonic RUclipsrs in the toilet for YEARS now, and I haven't heard of most of those. Sonic Mars got my attention the most, looks like it had potential. I can see it moving fast like a 2D Sonic game.
P.S. I'm the one in the toilet, not the youtubers.
You havent seen anything yet! I made a directors cut of this video that adds a B U N C H of additional games, books, mangas and more that I missed in this video!! It also fixes mistakes and adds new info to some of the orginal entrys AND its 2 hours long! If your feeling brave and wanna waste 2 hours the DX video has got you covered lmao
ruclips.net/video/FBhFSXx1MPE/видео.htmlsi=xKgMpjPFHJXxSclg
@@Jetter06 thanks my friend, will watch & subscribe.
Weird comparison, but sonic mars reminds me A LOT Galactic Taz ball for the ds
I've always wanted to see a full 3d sequel to sonic Battle preferably made by cyberconnect2 and bandai namco following the same structure that made up the naruto UNS series
nearly every item goes "SEGA got bored of it, but luckily fans put in loads of unpaid work to make something better than the official thing ever would have been"
Have you ever heard of Archie sonic online? Awesome continuation, would recommend.
I now have to go back on that after literally ten minutes. You covered it like five minutes later :/
I'm surprised you didn't mention Knuckles Chaotix Saturn
Didnt even know that was a thing till you mentioned it, all while i was doing my reaserch i never saw that mentioned until i specifically searched for it
Imma add it to the Master list and probably make a part 2 if any more canceld projects i missed come along!
@@Jetter06knuckles chaotix was intended for the sega Saturn and not the 32x
@@Jetter06TCRF has a decent amount of info for stuff like Xtreme and other cancelled sonic projects. Like how Sonic Pool (Bonus stages of Sonic Saturn) was actually first moved to an iteration of Sonic Xtreme shortly before it was cancelled and then moved 3D Blast Saturn where it got the can.
Funny how SEGA was doing the [Game PLUS] thing during Sonics early years
If I've learnt anything from this video, it's that if the name of your Sonic game has anything to do with the word, "Extreme," you're doomed.
The shadow world just sounds like 3d sonic exe
A very good video man! But you forgot to talk about Archie Sonic Online, it's almost the same as Sonic The Comic Online, only that no official writers or artists came back
Actually i did refrence ASO in the sonic underground segment! I didnt refrence it during the archi portion because from my understanding it doesnt continue the story where it was left off in the comics but rather tells stories as if the genisis wave never happend
@@Jetter06 ooh my bad, makes sense actually! But at least mention it on the Archie segment and you make it clear that it follows the events if the genesis wave didn't happen
22:26 Rod Serling should join this lawsuit and turn it into... Triple Trouble
Sega Released some unreleased stuff in the past I hope thwt they release as much unreleased stuff or even make it and release it.
Kinda happy how some of these canceled projects are being continued by the fans
Like satam season 3
Underground revamped
Archie sonic online
Ect
I wonder what would happen if all these dead projects suddenly got uncanceled and were actually set to be released possibly next year and moving onwards with the sonic ip what's the first thing y'all would do?
Cry cause of the amount of videos i would need to make xD
Sonic extreme actually looked quite good. Perhaps better than riders...
And, seeing Shadow ride goofy like me, is awesome!
HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE 1M YOUR CONTENT IS GOD
Thank you so much! I got a looooong way to go befor 1M though xD if i can make it to 10k id be a happy man!
I dont really get why Sonic Crackers is in this video. It got turned into Knuckles Chaotix, and wasnt even supposed to be released to the public even when they started making it
*insert joke about Sonic going so fast that he winds up creating a few A-Train incidents here and there on his path*
Bruh sonic day became Super Leap Day
Saw the thumbnail and immediately thought Sonic got cancelled like what did my boy do??? 💀💀💀
🤣🤣🤣 LMAO
good video, dude
Thank you!
Do you have a source suggesting the Japanese producers intended to make more installments? You know an OVA stands for Original Video Animation right? They are usually stand alone animations, or hyper short collections, such as the original six episodes of FLCL. But it is for sure my favorite animation of sonic, so if we could’ve ever gotten more I sure would like to know!
20:24 Wasn't this the earliest version for a certain mobile Sonic game, if not THE only mobile Sonic game?
I think its a very good possibility!
heh at the sonic 4 segment you called the death egg mk2 little big planet lol
🤣 dammit, i missed that during my review of the video, welp cant change it now lol
Popful Mail/Sister Sonic really saddens me, Sonic barely gets any RPGs or Action RPGs (aside from Chronicles), I would’ve loved that Sonic take on a different genre game just like how Puyo Puyo was Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine.
Sonic Xtreme had character named Tiara Boobowski which has an amazing design I wish could’ve been repurposed for another Sonic Game.
Same here, i wish we could have gotten a look at sister sonic just so we have an idea of what it could have been like! ( aside from the tiny concept i made i mean, like somthing thats actually offical )
I know some cancelled Sonic games like ke Sonic Extreme and Sonic 3+ but wow I didn't even know there were so many. Not to mention that Sonic movie beased off of Sonic Saturn.
55:22 “DiC(k) Entertainment”💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
1:49 so I’m gonna need protection to play it?
Sonic 3 & Knuckles was split into 2 games for time consraits, sega genesis size limitations being up to 12MB, & deadlines for mcdonald"s toy promotions
I wanna correct you on the Sister Sonic part, Sister Sonic wasn't a western adaptation of Popful Mail, it was going to be the Sega CD version we actually recieved.
Good video anyways.
Oh boy, ideas to steal!! (I’m taking these scrapped plans)
I was a bit shocked sonic synergy wasn’t included here because it’s a very largely known scrapped game
Wait isnt sonic synergy just the beta name for sonic boom rise of lyric? Are they that diffrent from one another?
Seems like 90% of the cancelled games were just bad ideas from American devs who didn't understand the appeal of Sonic's gameplay. Like I enjoy Sega Technical Institute's games and their grungy style, but all of their Sonic games look like they'd suck to play, including all versions of X-Treme. I mean, STI even finished and released a Sonic game, Spinball, and it's widely recognized as "just okay at best"
26:20 whats the song used here?
ruclips.net/video/Y-kDxJ-mLHQ/видео.htmlsi=2MesJokZ7KWoFIJW
Here ya go! Its from sonic and the fallen star
1:03 - If you want a rom image of a final version of Sonic 3 +, download "Sonic 3 Complete".
EDIT - In a similar fashion, hackers have also fixed the port of "Doom" on the 32X, and are still upgrading it. it's called "Doom Resurrection", and is worth downloading for your emulator.
They actually finally did put out sonic 3 and knuckles and it's in sonic origins
bro said *massive* so many times 😭🙏🏿
you know what else is massive?
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The deep dive on Sonic
I don't understand why any footage of Sonic SatAm was altered. Any footage I saw of the show wasn't altered for Copyright, so why you?
Everytime i tried to use footage from the show I was hit with a copyright claim by wildbrain who has all the episodes reposted on their channel, the only way i could get around the copyright stike was for me to alter the footage, i have no clue why im some special case cause ive seen tons of other people use Satam footage with no issue, it was very frustrating to say the least because it ended up delaying when I could post the video