Nissan Z Upgraded Exhaust, Tuning, Suspension Tweaks and Drag Testing - Motive Garage Zed Pt5

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @seanliddy6462
    @seanliddy6462 Год назад +5

    Seriously mate this type of content is awesome. No bull shit, you tell us what works, what does not work and the trials required to be heading in the right direction.
    Awesome work!

  • @anydaynow01
    @anydaynow01 Год назад +8

    This is the reason I love Nissan sports cars, they know how to evolve a chassis so it just gets better with age but 95% of parts transfer over the generations. Non Nissan car folks look at me in disbelief when I tell them just how many suspension parts I had transferred over between the '90s Nissans I've owned. Like although they behave like completely different cars so many parts can be transferred between an R32 R33 and R34 even some of the Z32 and S chassis parts can be swapped around. It's nice to see they did the same with this generation so the Z35 has a deep aftermarket right out of the gate, with a tunable ECU to boot!

  • @marcuswynn89
    @marcuswynn89 Год назад +32

    i can already tell there is going to be a love hate relationship with this z'ed

    • @zyoungson215
      @zyoungson215 Год назад +2

      Its zee.

    • @marcuswynn89
      @marcuswynn89 Год назад +4

      @@zyoungson215 zee z'ed who cares

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Год назад

      @@zyoungson215 People will call it what they want

    • @spooler7828
      @spooler7828 Год назад

      Wait till they try to build the motor with that open deck block. Head lift is the Z killer.

    • @JDMz
      @JDMz Год назад +1

      @@zyoungson215 it's actually zed. That's how pronounce "Z" (zed) in the alphabet 🙃

  • @JustAnotherHouseCat
    @JustAnotherHouseCat Год назад +14

    Id like to see the exhaust note changed to eliminate some of the rasp, if possible. It would be cool to see it do some circuit work to see if the chassis improvements and rigidity will hold up well for that. As the Supras are being used for time attack and circuits it would be fun to see how the Z can hold up against it.

  • @scottkennedy3039
    @scottkennedy3039 Год назад +22

    A helmsholt resonator could solve potentially help alot with some of the noise. Would be worth looking into. Tom's Turbo Garage had a great result on his VR4. Video on RUclips.
    Love the real results you show in your videos with as little bias as you can have.

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +4

      The lack of cars is probably the cause more than anything

    • @Fackler91
      @Fackler91 Год назад +7

      I miss Tom posting videos

    • @andrewrigg4905
      @andrewrigg4905 Год назад +5

      I made a Helmholtz resonator for my own car . Made quite a difference actually.

  • @mischief33
    @mischief33 Год назад +5

    The tune and exhaust seems to liven it up for street use. I’m not after huge power but also good to see how far it can be pushed.

  • @brian1157
    @brian1157 Год назад +5

    Z1 Motorsports makes a diff brace for the new Z.
    I'm loving the content by the way!
    I can't wait to get one for myself.

  • @joepeluso3864
    @joepeluso3864 Год назад +3

    Press the brake light switch while pushing the brake pedal, it will disable all the stability control system. Also when you restart it. It will do a system recheck and everything will be back to normal.

  • @danielwakeling3662
    @danielwakeling3662 Год назад +4

    That mang nearly sounds as good as an eco tech!

  • @kimmyrask7368
    @kimmyrask7368 Год назад +1

    Nice to see the Z again! Sounds great!

  • @clarissafarmer3547
    @clarissafarmer3547 Год назад

    5:42 The “I don’t understand what you’re doing” look 🤣

  • @gonzoe123
    @gonzoe123 Год назад

    I did a dual exhaust on my G37. From the cats the piping was 2.5” to a “resonated x-pipe”. Dual 2.5” piping all the way back to 2 4”x9” mufflers with the stock tips. It sounded almost stock at idle, heavy throttle activated beast mode with no rasp.

  • @christopherdaniel6142
    @christopherdaniel6142 Год назад

    this was refreshing , most mainstream guys that only want brands and muffler systems wont take my advice they seem to think one size pipes is the only way to do a set up and if you deviate and innovate some how you are wrong . i did this with my civic to stop the known issues that plague Honda products and i dont even have a muffler a the back. ditch the muffler in the back and i bet you gonna get an even better sound , maybe experiment with mixing metal thickness ....

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 Год назад +4

    I think it sounds fine. People don't like the sound?

  • @NismoSupra
    @NismoSupra Год назад +5

    My Q50 Redsport had the same issue, I had to turn off the TCS and the VCS. The Q’s VCS is under the brake pedal. I had to depress the brake pedal, and there is a button that you hold for a few seconds and it will turn off. Silly, I know.

    • @joeop5104
      @joeop5104 Год назад

      My wife's red sport is fine turn off traction control and it goes up gears doing a burnout love it

    • @NismoSupra
      @NismoSupra Год назад

      @@joeop5104 that’s odd, everyone else I know, unless you turn off the VCS it will kill the power and not allow you to do burnouts.

  • @jaredgreen5305
    @jaredgreen5305 Год назад

    Thanks for the video's on the Z brother, i think you've convinced me to stick with a Euro badge and my AMG's!

  • @willrogers5713
    @willrogers5713 Год назад +2

    I hope you guys can get this thing in the 10s

  • @stevemcintyre4398
    @stevemcintyre4398 Год назад +1

    I'm looking forward to the track test.

  • @Wiggy321
    @Wiggy321 Год назад +2

    Everyone is doing drag stuff with this car. Let's see what incremental suspension upgrades can do on a road course.
    Modification I want to see, the difference between a full air to air vs air to water intercooler

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +7

      We will be doing that as well. Soon.

  • @SportRider3000
    @SportRider3000 Год назад

    Nice job. Good to see proper tuning and r&d. Keep up the good work !!. Way too many hacks out there !!

  • @spooler7828
    @spooler7828 Год назад

    Your car can hook 800whp on the street with the correct mods with not too much trouble. Up above 800whp is becomes a challenge. On the drag strip, 17in welds and 305/45/17 slicks work well. They will fit right over the rear sport brakes with no problem.

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman6992 Год назад

    I can hardly believe it makes that power and went a 12.5 in the quarter mile with exhaust that restrictive! That’s nuts. A proper exhaust will do that thing wonders!

  • @Suomyice
    @Suomyice Год назад

    Great video Andrew. Thank you
    I think you may have already answered the questions as for what power mod is worth doing for the future general owner of a 400Z that will in 99% cases never drag race it.
    Leave all the hardware alone. Only have the ECU tuned.

  • @marcuswynn89
    @marcuswynn89 Год назад

    excited to see where you all take it

  • @jethrox827
    @jethrox827 Год назад +1

    Always love the motive vids

  • @miguelcollado5438
    @miguelcollado5438 Год назад

    helmholtz resonators at the downpipe end, and possibly another two 16" resonator cans on the mid-section of the exhaust system to kill off the rasp+drone

  • @CforClairvoyant
    @CforClairvoyant Год назад +1

    I say get the air to air kit from Bonnie and Clyde for reliability and consistency. E85 on this car will make it a monster as well but that's crazy what you need for that. The VR30 is slept on and it can make 1000hp on stock block. Also love the launch at 10:15 !! Great job!!

    • @davothegreat9990
      @davothegreat9990 Год назад

      Why bother! Buy a Supra. Better in every way

    • @CforClairvoyant
      @CforClairvoyant Год назад

      @@davothegreat9990 Modify nissans vs bone stock are a major difference. Sure the Supra is better but im just Nissan bias. I really like both cars though.

    • @2seep
      @2seep Год назад

      @@davothegreat9990a 40k base z with proper modification to 60k which is the Supra base price, is far better. You’ll get suspension, far more power, and it sounds better.

    • @2seep
      @2seep Год назад

      A2a kit is too expensive for very mild gains. Best thing to do is to get z1 waterpump, ams race heat exchanger, coolant additive(lower temps), and the minimum coolant. Little revere coolant+ better flow, plus massive heat exchanger allowed for better heat transfer and dramatically decreases heat soak.

    • @davothegreat9990
      @davothegreat9990 Год назад

      @@2seep 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Base Z is rubbish even with the extra cash. Still can't beat the lighter car, better b58 and better zf8 transmission.

  • @antonjimmy5636
    @antonjimmy5636 Год назад +1

    Would a line locker freak out the ABS/traction control? Because it would work mechanically, but I'd expect a whole bunch of "DANGER TO MANIFOLD" happening in the ECU because the front wheels are stationary and rears are going rather fast

  • @EricaMTB
    @EricaMTB Год назад

    You can probably run a basic wiring harness to the brake lights and disconnect the brake light switch to the factory harness.

  • @brian1157
    @brian1157 Год назад +1

    To do a burnout in the 370z at the dragstrip and turn off VDC completely I would remove the Stop Lamp Fuse. Maybe the new Z is the same? I am very interested in finding out.

  • @Turbo_P
    @Turbo_P Год назад

    Another good option for downpipes are Boosted 6 Auto. We have resonated and non resonated available.

  • @10awkwardpenguins
    @10awkwardpenguins Год назад

    Well the VR being from the vq architecture and it being 3.0l compared to the 3.8l, those exhaust nots makes sense.

  • @timholubowitch9097
    @timholubowitch9097 Год назад

    The exhaust style is more like 350z and r35. Dual single to dual. Which sounds so much better to me. Than the stock style dual exhaust that others have done.

  • @jbuelman2025
    @jbuelman2025 Год назад

    I can't believe they stuck the same exact exhaust (appears to be anyway) as I had on my 2011 370Z. I gained 20hp putting a 2.5 inch dual exhaust. Same 1.75" piping on the 2023 Zed...

  • @GettingthruLife
    @GettingthruLife Год назад

    I have a Ecutek tuned 2019 Infiniti Q50 3.0t here in U.S. in Texas. 93 fuel, AMS airbox kit, heat exchanger upgrade, Magnaflow 2.5 dual pipe cbe x-pipe but elected to keep my factory downpipes. I dyno around 445 to 450 rwhp. I also have installed the rear subframe bushing collars plus I have a somewhat good differential brace.
    I run my car on the street/bare concrete. Traction as you know with this motor's little, fast spooling turbos and only rwd is a joke. Even with my soft Toyo R888R 285 width, 100 treadwear rear tires. With Ecutek launch control, which is nothing related to helping put power down (as when i got tuned mid 2020). For thise unfamiliar, LC allows more boost to be built up with no rpm cut but mostly allows more tire smoke/spin hence no "control". But does provide me my best 0-60 mph and 60foot .
    Here in the U.S.A, my 3.0t is nothing special. People here have plenty of 500whp to 650whp infiniti/nissan V6 3.0t cars.
    What my basic tuned Q50 runs per the Dragy GPS device on everyday concrete with my Toyo R888R UHP tire is 3.85 sec 0-60 mph best and 1.87 60 foot. After 5 feet off the line from launch my tires spin the entire rest of 1st gear so I feel this is pretty good for basically a tuned Infiniti Q50 spinning its wheels.
    If I could justify buying new 17" diameter wheels (I run 19" wheels) and 275-285 Micky Thompson E.T. Street R drag radial, proper tires, maybe get it down to low 3.7 sec 0-60 mph and 1.67- 1.72 60 foot on the casual street with no roll out. Until i spend the $2000 dollars for additional wheel/tire , I've given up trying to launch this car. It's just frustrating and disappointing.. The auto trans ( TCM tuning) part ( 7-speed Jatco with torque converter) needs to be tunable in a massive way which last I heard, still isn't tunable. This would be great if we could tune the trans.

  • @Woggin-ind
    @Woggin-ind Год назад

    Worth giving it a shot, if u give the car throttle whilst on the brake, and dumping the clutch, will it continue spinning? I know Toyotas (modern) if you try and do a rolling skid, it cuts the throttle, but if you do a standstill and you can keep it spinning without issue, vehicle will allow it.

  • @craiganthony2530
    @craiganthony2530 Год назад +1

    Interesting but can you tell me if it's a little raspy between 3000/4000 rpm 🤔😁😜

  • @wedgoku
    @wedgoku Год назад +2

    I would love to see you guys use the new HKS HIPERMAX S coilovers, HKS makes amazing products & I would love to see a review on their coilovers.

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +6

      We work with Shockworks. They build it to suit us, not generic off the shelf. We have no offical association with HKS, so would have to buy them at full price. Video wouldn’t get enough views to pay for the coilovers, let alone the labour, filming and editing.

  • @grecoconduris6716
    @grecoconduris6716 Год назад

    Super Mang or New Z they are just as quick? 😂 Jokes, cool development. Keep it up.

  • @alexmann3309
    @alexmann3309 Год назад

    Such a cool car! Definitely nothing pulling power on the track? Might be worthwhile logging the pass and seeing what it’s doing.
    115mph at 3300lb is like 300hp territory. Not 400+
    Like a dead stock FG ZF at 300rwhp will go 12.6 at 113. So something clearly holding it back mph wise.
    Glad the axle tramp is somewhat corrected. The thing was proper violent before.

  • @ben7020
    @ben7020 Год назад

    You'll sort out the burnout thing, eventually someone will find it. The N54 ecu platform is still developing after 15 years so it's early days on this 👍

  • @jasondoulkeridis6202
    @jasondoulkeridis6202 Год назад

    So is it fair to say unless you’re changing turbos an exhaust is mostly for the sound rather than the power? Or do you feel that the EGT drop would also be valuable at the track? I like the idea of modern cars not needing an exhaust, it simplifies things a lot for people who just want to drive the thing.

  • @chrissraceporting7055
    @chrissraceporting7055 Год назад

    Better resonators will help with the v6 raspy notes. Depending on your personal preferences

  • @ADMaw11
    @ADMaw11 Год назад

    I'm curious to see how it behaves though corners on a track. They're a bit heavier than a 370z right? are they well balanced?

  • @Soravia
    @Soravia Год назад

    If you want it to bark, but no drone for cruise, use Hemholtz pipes. Look how Goodwin Racing does it

  • @BNR_248
    @BNR_248 Год назад

    Fresh car, early adopter problems. Hopefully you can sort it out soon. 320rwkw is enough to go well into the 11s. No doubt the car is capable. Would love to see do some roll racing as well.

  • @freddywsn3447
    @freddywsn3447 Год назад +2

    I think it could use some resonators to dampen the rumble a bit. Other than that it sounds good.

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +3

      It has a resonator and muffler already. Any more and would be no noise at idle and high rpm

    • @NickTaylorRickPowers
      @NickTaylorRickPowers Год назад

      @@MotiveVideo varex ?

  • @sc0llay
    @sc0llay Год назад

    The R35 has the same issue with brake and throttle, don’t know if it will work on the 400Z but I installed a manual switch on the brake pedal switch so I can turn off the brake pedal sensing. This allows me to brake boost in the GTR, maybe the same will work in 400Z?

  • @venodanvadivel
    @venodanvadivel Год назад

    I'm sure a similar exhaust setup as the Motordyne or Ark exhausts for the z33/z34 platform would make it sound a lot better. Helmholtz resonators do wonders for the VQ platform, and by the sounds of it, would help the new Z as well

    • @2seep
      @2seep Год назад

      The best exhaust for the vr30 is a borla exhaust. 0 rasp, 0 drone, and excellent sound.

  • @anthonywhelan8373
    @anthonywhelan8373 Год назад +1

    Have you tried a switch to cut the brake switch output ? Could be a simple solution

    • @Justintemp1
      @Justintemp1 Год назад

      as they said they want to fix it properly in the ecu, besides the ecu is basically shutting the engine down, not applying the breaks. Otherwise it's prob like the 370z's where you just flick the switch on the abs module.

  • @ZLAKLR20B
    @ZLAKLR20B Год назад

    I quite like the sound of it actually, never a fan of the R35 and the NA 6s bark a bit??, this sounds in between, nice.

  • @UncleSpool
    @UncleSpool Год назад

    Get a line lock for the front brakes, you can be completely off the brake pedal while doing a burnout.

  • @antonisp6629
    @antonisp6629 Год назад

    great proggress. keep at it

  • @mrnicktoyou
    @mrnicktoyou Год назад +1

    That gurgling sound out of the mufflers as the revs drop is horrible. Hope that can be fixed.

  • @andrewrigg4905
    @andrewrigg4905 Год назад

    Id like to see how quick the Z goes around the GP circuit at SMSP. Maybe even Luddenham too.

  • @padaopel
    @padaopel Год назад +1

    Would a line lock help, is it just seeing brake switch on and then won't let you go full throttle with brake switch on basically?

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +3

      It potentially would, but ABS would freak out so might go haywire.
      we are working on a solution

  • @toad0720
    @toad0720 Год назад

    Any lightening of the car attempted?

  • @elmoz122
    @elmoz122 Год назад

    I use an pathfinder diff cover, uses two bolts instead on one

  • @SonicTuned
    @SonicTuned Год назад

    Do you have a part number for the turbo smart blow-off valves you run?

  • @josemontano7767
    @josemontano7767 Год назад

    With all that traffic he should keep his eyes on the road.

  • @flamintasty
    @flamintasty Год назад

    Sounds a lot better now, I like that raspy sound. Just a shame it ends so quickly. 🤷

  • @jordandude6541
    @jordandude6541 Год назад

    We just wanna see the nav and the build on it hahahah when you getting 7n 5 inch lift and 35s and dpf delete hahah

  • @outinthebackyard7579
    @outinthebackyard7579 Год назад +1

    If you can get the car to hook I would think that mph is enough to be in the 10 second territory

  • @martintuija
    @martintuija Год назад

    Thanks for a good channel.. Best regards Martin Denmark.

  • @zeniadubash4564
    @zeniadubash4564 Год назад

    muffler/ reso from Haks and Arthur?

  • @battlearenatoshinden
    @battlearenatoshinden Год назад

    The guy I saw on RUclips getting 11.4 with stock, new tires and tune, was on a drag strip with official clocks. Maybe it's a right hand drive problem. 😂 Channel was zillafullboost.

  • @MMOchAForPrez
    @MMOchAForPrez Год назад

    Dude all you have to do is hold the brake pedal down, find the button that controls the brake lights on the pedal, hold it for like 10 seconds, and boom. No more traction or stability control.

  • @linkems
    @linkems Год назад +1

    It sounds crap like most v6, as long as the manifold is designed around best fitment it will continue to sound like that. With an equal length manifold it will be as good as an inline 6 but until then the best exhaust is the quietest one 😅

  • @paulyadams
    @paulyadams Год назад

    sounds very similar to a VG30dett at the bottom and top end.

  • @akent46
    @akent46 Год назад

    "Raspyness" - resonant frequency. Helmholtz resonator will eliminate this resonance, but, the exhaust shop should be aware of this also.

  • @coreyw427
    @coreyw427 Год назад

    Who made the muffler?

  • @tylernestler7256
    @tylernestler7256 Год назад

    Any updates on the burn out ecu mod and full exhaust from CRD?

  • @insane3375
    @insane3375 Год назад

    How much hp can handle the stock vr38?🤔

  • @king3968
    @king3968 Год назад

    Z 9 speed ran 11.08 with 93 tune only

  • @dirtidan
    @dirtidan 8 месяцев назад

    So you guys used 370z coils? Are there any issues?

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  8 месяцев назад

      370 and Z are same chassis
      The Coilovers were made to suit extra weight and power of Z

    • @dirtidan
      @dirtidan 8 месяцев назад

      @MotiveVideo in the philippines there a lot of stuff for 370 but none for the new z. I want to lower my car but need to order it. And i just cant wait! Hahaha

  • @spamcan9208
    @spamcan9208 Год назад

    When did cars stop coming with buttons to turn traction control off? That's bs, epically in a sports car. Hell, even my dad's old Saturn had a button. And it was actually useful, turning off TC could help in the snow.

  • @Tube4TTT
    @Tube4TTT Год назад +2

    “But first, what does it sound like”
    Me: turn down volume 2 clicks
    *exhaust rev and dyno run scene*
    Me: mutes volume
    🤮

  • @asalouros
    @asalouros Год назад

    Word of the day... "Raspiness". Great info for new owners! Great work. Do diff mounts usually accentuate whine on all cars?

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +2

      Yeah, them and subframe collars always increase road noise and diff whine

    • @StreetstyleS15
      @StreetstyleS15 Год назад

      @@MotiveVideo tbh I didn't notice much of a difference in noise at all when installing subframe collars in my s15, although it already had a 2 way lsd and coilovers. solid diff mounts seem to drastically add noise comparatively

  • @GTRliffe
    @GTRliffe Год назад

    some raspie will go when that large exhaust fills with carbon

  • @ELISHANESFUSIONWORX
    @ELISHANESFUSIONWORX Год назад

    Should have went 76mm from the turbos back

  • @conradsealy9603
    @conradsealy9603 Год назад

    Try some Michelin tyres. That should help alot with a quicker 60' time.

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +1

      Take off drag radials to put street tyres on to go quicker at dragstrip 🤔

  • @navv8494
    @navv8494 Год назад

    Any updates?

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +2

      If there was, it would be on our channel

  • @captainbarge
    @captainbarge Год назад +1

    Put Hert behind a wheel

  • @markhalden3922
    @markhalden3922 Год назад +1

    Sounds like a 3.8 Commie..

  • @vongdong10
    @vongdong10 Год назад

    Ugh. Still has that infamous Z rasp even with turbos

  • @albertt7784
    @albertt7784 Год назад +1

    This car sounds pretty terrible like a lot modern cars these days but at least it's not loud and droney. As a nissan, toyota and hyundai owner I feel like the manual supra is a big upgrade over this car, it's lighter and has a better chassis and engine. In terms of modifications what I'd like to see is how much weight you can pull out of this car to make it lighter without compromising it's function as street car. I'm a bit disappointed at how little progress nissan has made in the last 20 years with their sport cars. If nissan was still building great sport cars I'd buy another one for sure.

  • @muhammadnurakbar4188
    @muhammadnurakbar4188 Год назад

    Long tube headers would be cool but unfortunately this car engine were integrated manifold

  • @aspiratedstreetwear3295
    @aspiratedstreetwear3295 Год назад

    Put some drag radials on it lol

  • @mogulme6190
    @mogulme6190 Год назад

    Air to air kit

  • @Mcnutsackpro
    @Mcnutsackpro Год назад

    The old l67 at carnage is worth the same 😅

  • @danishpastry718
    @danishpastry718 Год назад

    You guys rock, first into the 9s hey ?

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад +3

      AMS already in the 9s and way too hard with a manual at this stage.

  • @Sysiphos
    @Sysiphos Год назад

    You need to go do some donuts before trying to run a quarter mile time 😆

  • @mattyrussell6318
    @mattyrussell6318 Год назад

    I don't mind the car but it needs a wing and different body kit?

  • @MKI4EVA
    @MKI4EVA Год назад

    Circuit please. and weight reduction.

    • @MotiveVideo
      @MotiveVideo  Год назад

      We will be doing circuit. But no weight reduction. We didnt buy a 90K car to not be able to enjoy it on the road..

  • @RichLion
    @RichLion Год назад

    $7k to get into the corn on one of these things? Jesus.

    • @dj4monie
      @dj4monie Год назад +1

      Sounds like running it on full E85. He can likely do 20-30% blend with pump gas. It would make a serious horsepower bump.

  • @ZeeLover123
    @ZeeLover123 Год назад

    Why not just spend some money and get decent 295 better brand tyres?

  • @EatMyPropwash
    @EatMyPropwash Год назад

    1st not ANY car should have, even NA, is oil catch can(s).

  • @Cichlid_Visuals
    @Cichlid_Visuals Год назад +1

    i cant help but think a single exit would have sounded better. this thing sounds alot worse than i though it would.

  • @ozkatnuss7286
    @ozkatnuss7286 Год назад +1

    Hey Andrew any secrets on Some Secrets 😉😉

  • @Blight-fp3vt
    @Blight-fp3vt Год назад +3

    More interested in the BRZ :)