Upgrading my Langmuir Pro/Do These Upgrades When Setting Yours Up!
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2020
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I had a few things I wanted to take care of while doing regular maintenance to my Langmuir Pro this week. The first was to clean everything and empty the old water/Borax solution. It worked. Initially, but as the water table lost water to evaporation, the Borax started crystalizing on the table blades. It then allowed the blades and anything on the bottom of the table to begin rusting. If that wasn't bad enough the splash from the cutting would leave borax based water spots all over the gantry and plasma torch ultimately fouling up the consumables. It was workable but obviously not ideal. I was looking for another option and although I was aware of Plasma table concentrates, I always thought they would be too expensive to use. As it turns out, the cost per table change is only about $15. So much cheaper than I expected. Based on my latest experience of cleaning up the table it's money well spent.
In addition to the new fluid, I wanted to make the process of draining the table a little easier. In order to do that I needed to put dimples in the bottom of the water table where the drain is, think about your kitchen sink. The lowest point is where the drain is. This is what I wanted to do. I picked up a hydraulic hole punch set as well as some dimple dies. I'll add links to what I have as well as at least one other option below. Thanks for watching along as I make some simple upgrades to my Langmuir Pro.
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@ManCrafting for the life of me I can not find any details, make/model, or links to the dies and such you used to dimple the bottom of your SS water table. You wrote, "I picked up a hydraulic hole punch set as well as some dimple dies. I'll add links to what I have as well as at least one other option below."
Just ordered and used your code about a week ago...thanks for all the content! Keep em coming
Awesome. You are going to love it. I still get excited when I get to make something on it.
Great solution Chad, that looked like it worked out perfectly. What an awesome machine you have there.... 👍👍
The Muz Shop thanks Mike. The hole was slightly smaller than the Dimple die but fortunately I have that Ridgid Oscillating sander. 🤣 finally got to use it.
I am thankful that you put this video out I am about to buy this thing now I know what to do to upgrade it and make life easier Thanks a lot!!
Elijah Percival thanks. Don’t forget to get $100 off with ManCrafting.
You just saved me a lot of work! Thanks for the video.
Awesome. If you can do it before you build it, that’s ideal.
The green looks good and the dimples were fun to install.
They were. I hope all is well in FL.
WOW. What a difference Chad! Looks great
Gary Jones thanks Gary. It was a great upgrade. Did you see my previous three videos?
Nice upgrade to the Ecto Cooler! That’s what I need to do to my table. Great idea on the dimple I’ll be stealing that trick. 🔥👍🏼🔥
Steal away. I have more I’m trying to work out. Hopefully I’ll settle on something soon.
House of Chop thanks for the catch on the Plasma Green. Definitely want to use this only for steel. The Plasma Green 9010 is what you’ll want for non-ferrous metals. Or if you want to explore your wild side, Plasma Pink 4001 is another option.
I want one of those cutting metal is so cool. That green stuff is neat to but I would have to get it in red
Thanks for watching Drew. I’m sure once you build your metal ship you’ll have one. Closest to red they have is Pink. I’m sure that would be fine.
Nice info, thanks for the discount I just ordered my CF Pro with your code. Can’t wait to get the table.
Awesome. Can’t wait to see what you do with it. I have a couple of cool projects using mine coming up on my trailer build. Can’t wait.
I ordered mine this month, says it ships in April. I'm good with that, but April is going to be a long month. Days will be weeks.
@@travistaillon369 awesome. Don’t wait until it shows up. Take this time to start compiling things you want to cut. Designing them. Understand the workflow. You’ll be busy and ready when it shows up.
Chad, one thing I did to my Crossfire (the original) was to add a brass 1/4 turn ball valve on the drain instead of a plug. Makes draining the pan much easier and faster. I drain mine down when not in use. Keeps it from freezing in the winter and evaporating in the summer. I use a 6 gal or so bucket, it's just big enough to hold all the water.
I definitely want to set up some sort of drain system. This would be quick and easy. I had been toying with a drain and refill with a pump. I’ve just been busy and it’s low on my list.
@@ManCrafting I saw a video a while back of a guy who made a air pressurized fill and drain system. It was pretty slick.. It would be the ticket for your table as yours doesn't move. Thought of doing it for mine but it wasn't exactly portable.. Found it! ruclips.net/video/nkXThVPKC24/видео.html
Only issue is the tank can get a lot of crud in it and need flushing once in a while.
Cool, it worked. Looks great!
It Did. Thanks. Long way from that first weld on your lawn mower deck.
Great video, good info. Thanks for sharing
Robert Coggins thanks for stopping in and taking a moment to comment. When are you getting back to Atlanta? You need to hang out in the shop for a minute.
Nice upgrades Chad! 😃👍🏻👊🏻 ..... Great idea using dimples!
Thanks Fred. How’s everything going up there? You out on the roads or do they have you hunkered down?
@@ManCrafting I've been working the whole time, even the majority of my off days. With everyone staying at home, waste that would be generated in the workplace and in restaurants is now being generated at residences, which is what The NYC Department of Sanitation is responsible for collecting. Between this uptick in weight and the suspension of the departments composting program due to budget constraints caused by the pandemic putting even more weight back into the garbage, there's plenty of work for me every day. Garbage and recycling routes that would typically get cleaned by a given number of trucks on the primary day shift are no longer finishable and the remaining work is either pushed onto the next shift or in some instances the next day, or even the next scheduled pick-up day for whichever route/routes. Also because of the pandemic, they've divided the work which is typically done on the primary shift onto the other shifts in an effort to reduce the number of employees in the facilities at any given time. Thanks for asking, hope you're doing good as well! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Great tips! I'm glad someone finally posted how much cleaning is involved as well as the draining issue and a solution. Any updates on how the PlasmaGreen performed?
It’s been great. I’ve switched to the 9050 I believe the number is. I can cut other metals safely.
I need to dimple my drain too!
Looks great Chad. The borax looks like it was really building up.
Thanks Greg. It was great for a couple of days then the build up started and got progressively worse. Glad it’s not an issue now.
Just an idea I came up with from clean the bottom slag my down draft welding table. Harbor Freight heavy duty Magnetgetts the bulk out fast then a wet dry shop vac to suck up the left over mud. Really quick easy way to keep from scooping the slop.
Even better, put the magnet in a heavy duty zip lock bag and then pick up the slag. Invert the bag when you can't pick up anymore and pull it away from the magnet. No more dirty magnet.
Good idea.
It looks 100% better!
Jodie Grosklags it really does. Nice splash of color to the shop. 🤣
nicely done Chad
Thanks Jamie. It’s good to see you. It’s been too long. The hangout tonight was fun.
Great tip on the Plasma Green! I've been waiting to see how you solved this :)
Thanks. If you decide to get some, make sure you get the one that meets your needs. One is steel only the other keeps hydrogen from being created when cutting aluminum. Important distinction that I wish I had addressed in the video.
@@ManCrafting That's a good tip. I had placed an order, but do need to cut aluminum safely, so will revise it. I'm glad you mentioned it!
Sorry I didn’t make it clear in the video. I actually had the 1050 recommended to me. I didn’t notice the thumbnail saying Steel until Phil asked me about it. 🤷🏻♂️
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Does their green stuff freeze ? My table will be exposed to cold weather outside in my shop. Can someone help with this
JUST GOT MY NEW CROSSFIRE PRO TABLE 09/10/20 .lot nicer than I was expecting. Will be awhile till I get it up and running have to did a little room on my 22 x 10 shop .
Small now but after being really sick for 16 yrs And being happy caped it will try longer. Loss a lot so can not work no income so it take more Effort.
Hi Chad Do you think cutting slats out of aluminum would eliminate this? Also, I want someone to try 1000 Orbeez in their water to see what that does. I bet it wouldnt splash. I want to get a table next year when my garage is done.
Where did you get that spark/splash guard? I see a lot of people using that. But can’t find it online.
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had no idea that borax could create that much build up, going green reminded me of the Joker falling into the ooze!!
Drum Runner it definitely has that Joker feel to it. The Borax maintained solution for several days and I was really happy with the way it was working. Of course once the water evaporated the saturation point was exceeded and the Borax crystallized.
Has any one coated the water pan with flex seal or rhino line ??? I'm ordering mine this week and it was a idea .
I coated my original with powder coating before they were Stainless. It was aluminum.
So, did that green stuff solve your problems? Does it leave spots on your gantry? Does it affect your consumables like the borax did? Does your table now drain completely? Is all well in the House of Mancrafting?
I’ve seen no build up on the slats or spots on the gantry. No rust. I haven’t cut enough yet to determine consumable life extension but I will update once I have a better idea. The table drains 99%. There is small spots where I have to wipe up with a rag. Pretty dang close though.
Works by Solo how’s your next video coming along?
ManCraftingTM I think I’m getting a little rusty. Hahaha! ;-)
I have a crossfire pro on oder can't wait they say August
That’s awesome! You will love it! 🔥
👍👍👍didn't know you had to change liquid for different metals
There is cheaper material for just steel. If you want to cut non ferrous and steel you need the more expensive option. The 9001 works for everything and most importantly neutralizes the hydrogen gas that’s released cutting aluminum.
@@ManCrafting 👍👍👍👍appreciate the info
CHAD, I didn't see the link to the dimple dies and Hydralic punch set. I'm getting a Pro in September and want to do this upgrade as I install it. Thanks for the information.
The punch set is this www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-punch-driver-kit-96718.html these are the dimple dies. www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-Pipe-Dimple-Dies-5-Piece-Set-34-1-1-14-1-12-2_p_112.html
Grea idea putting dimes in.
I had to think for a minute. I’m guessing autocorrect got you. 🤣 Dimples.
Nice upgrades, where did you get the tool that made the dimple?
I got the tool itself from Harbor Freight and the dies from Swag Offroad
@@ManCrafting ok thx and it's a hydraulic punch kit, I didnt see the link in the description to these items in the description.
Looks like evaporust, the rust remover. Does it make everything black and remove scale? Then it is.
Interesting. I have a gallon of evaporust
I am gonna zinc coat the water table that keep mold down also
Do you have the links for the manual dimple die set? Thank you.
www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-Pipe-Dimple-Dies-5-Piece-Set-34-1-1-14-1-12-2_p_112.html
question for you. i bought some of the 9010 plasma fluid from Konzen since i cut both steel and aluminum and i have been been getting brown, almost mud like sludge forming after cutting. have you run into that issue?
I didn’t get the 9010 originally, although I bought some last week. I’m sure any sludge is the byproduct of the plasma cutting the metal and rather than being released as smoke it’s trapped in the water. Kind of the intention of a water table.
Awesome video and very helpful! What dimple die setup/brand did you use? and what brand hydraulic punch? Thanks
christopher sendry sorry had to look up the links. www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-punch-driver-kit-96718.html from harbor freight. And this from SWAG Offroad. www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-Pipe-Dimple-Dies-5-Piece-Set-34-1-1-14-1-12-2_p_112.html
@@ManCrafting thanks so much! about to dimple my table right now!
christopher sendry awesome. Let me know how it goes.
@@ManCrafting $500 to dimple the pans? Yowza!!! That would be nice for Langmuir to incorporate that into future pans. Worth it in mass production. OR. You could start a dimple business. :-)
@@donswords6671 I bought them for metal working projects. If this was the only time I’d use them that’s definitely not a very good ROI. I’ve used them 4x since buying them and probably 100’s of time more over the next few years.
Is that just glycol coolant renamed for plasma cutting ?
It’s definitely not glycol. It would list that on the SDS.
what is the magnet you are using to hold the slats while you clean them ?
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What is the shield for splashing used from?
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This is a GREAT video and finally one where the music is awesome. Just one question: why do you put text in the video that only lasts a fraction of the time it takes to read it? For all the text boxes I had to go back and pause. So frustrating.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ll make sure to leave the text on screen longer in future videos.
@@ManCrafting thank you so much!
Has anyone shared this with Lanqmuir to add the dimple? Seems like a simple improvement. Well done.
It’s been mentioned. Not sure why they haven’t made a modification.
@@ManCrafting cost. Each step in manufacturing will affect the end user.
Just found you,got my table together going to start doing some test cuts this weekend i have one question where can i get the red i guess you would call it a splash guard great idea. Thanks Dean
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The little things,Thank you
@@deanpurks7474 my pleasure.
Nice job
Thanks Mike. Did your laser come in yet?
@@ManCrafting yes hopefully going to fire up this week and play with lightburn software.
Miter Mike's Woodshop I wish I had started with Lightburn from day one.
How thick can you cut with it
I saw the question and couldn’t find. Just in case you didn’t catch my reply. Up to 5/8 although I currently have only had the need to cut 1/2in.
How is the torch height control?
It’s a game changer. I had a sheet that was getting hot and warped as I had cut it. It may have had at least a 1 inch bow from end to end. The THC rode the rise and cut perfectly the whole way up. It was amazing.
It is amazing. I wouldn't get one without it now that I have one with it. Cut width consistency, dimensional accuracy and edge quality are all so much better.
which torch is that and where did you get your brackets?
Hey William, these are the links to my Plasma Cutter and Table Torch. Plasma Cutter Used in my videos 800usaweld.com/products/microcut-875sc-v2-plasma-cutter?ref=3tijle_owkg
Table Torch 800usaweld.com/products/microcut-875sc-v2-plasma-cutter?ref=3tijle_owkg&variant=31949886128211
If you mean the brackets holding the torch I got them from Langmuir. store.langmuirsystems.com/collections/add-ons/products/crossfire-crossfire-pro-machine-torch-mount
If you mean the Brackets I made to hold the Plasma Cutter on the wall, I made those in another video here- ruclips.net/video/HFHLn6aT08k/видео.html
I saw the green stuff in an IG post and was wondering what the heck it was. We need to find some of that. How do you like that rubber(?) apron around the torch? Do you find it makes a difference with water spraying everywhere? I cut a 48x32” top for a welding table this week and it made quite the mess, particularly whenever it was cutting near the very edge of the water table.
It’s a funnel. I picked it up on amazon for a couple of dollars. It works great. If you decide to get the green stuff make sure you get the type that works best for you. I bought the one just for steel. There’s 2 others. Green or Pink that can be used safely for non ferrous metals. Aluminum produces hydrogen gas when cutting. The 9001 prevents that.
@@ManCrafting Thanks for the warning about the hydrogen. No need for that in unexpected places.
I was wondering if that cover was made for this purpose or not. I'll have to keep my eyes open for something similar.
Chris Manning I’ll see if I can find the link on the funnel. Should be in my history. Also 10% Off on Plasma Green with discount code: ManCrafting
@@ManCrafting Exactly right Chad. The Plasma Green 1050 for steel, Plasma Green 9010 for aluminum, and Plasma Pink 4001 for applications like mechanical saws etc. where breathing mist is an issue.
Mark Konzen could the Pink be used in the table as well if you just wanted to know via a visual indicator which material you had in? Or is it not appropriate for the Plasma?
What size dimple die did you use? I have a Crossfire Pro on the way and want to buy or make the die before it arrives.
Sorry I didn’t reply. I just saw this. Did you get your table and figure out the dimple if so?
@@ManCrafting actually the last box arrived last week and I have not had a chance to start on it yet. Can you tell me what size die I should buy?
Did u ever find out what size?
@@strangerdanger1449 I ended up grabbing the hydraulic hole punch set at Harbor Freight. I think that I used the 1-15/16 set because I bought the bar drains but I did not think about the material stretching with the dimple dies that I made and they came out a bit big. If I was to do it again I would most likely dimple them first and then punch them bigger or use the 1-11/16 size if I was going to punch them first. I am working on putting together a video about it but the Holidays have me busy.
Do you have a link to the dimple tool?
Thanks
I got the cutter at HF. The dimple dyes from SWAG Offroad. If you need a link I’ll track it down. I know I’ve posted it.
So the hole punch is from harbor freight. The dimple dies work with that. This is the set I own. www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-Pipe-Dimple-Dies-5-Piece-Set-34-1-1-14-1-12-2_p_112.html
Thank you
@ManCraftingTM what is the red plastic cover over the torch tip? and where can I find them?
This is what I ordered. Works well just held on with the zip tie. I keep it down unless filming. Silicone funnel amzn.to/2YbnOXb
@@ManCrafting Chad, have you had any problems with the torch cover while cutting. Any melting of the sort?
@@Sam-wp4ps I haven’t. It’s silicone so it’s pretty heat resistant. Other than dirty it looks like the day I installed it.
@@ManCrafting Sweet. Ordered.....
@@ManCrafting Got it installed. Way cleaner as far as water control. I like it. Thanks
What kind of dimpler kit is that?
I got the hole punch from Harbor Freight. The dimpler set is from Swag Offroad. It’s made to work with the HF hole punch.
www.swagoffroad.com/SWAG-Pipe-Dimple-Dies-5-Piece-Set-34-1-1-14-1-12-2_p_112.html
Awesome, thanks great video BTW 👍
Anytime.
Can you share your settings?? Your parts look great!
I use the settings for the Hypertherm 45XP. There a file you can download and populate into Sheetcam.
@@ManCrafting sweet deal man. Keep the videos coming
So here is the real question. After 10 months does it work? What are your thoughts?
It works like the day I bought it. I use it at least once a week. Sometimes way more. Just depends on what I have going on and what I need to cut.
My first response doesn’t do it justice. It’s amazing to my that I own a tool like this. I really grateful that a company came out with a plasma CNC that would fit in my shop and was at a price point I could easily justify. It’s really a dream come true.
I’m sorry the plasma green product. Does it keep everything clean? Also I would love to talk to you about your plasma cutter. I need to cut 1/2” to make John Deere quick attach plates shown here on my website. www.landworkspro.com/john-deere-35g-quick-change-coupler-operation/ I like this cutter your showning cause it matches my budget the trick now is to find the right plasma cutter that supports the thickness with out breaking the piggy back. Thoughts?
The plasma green has stopped the rust and crystal buildup. Even if the water is evaporating. So I’ve been happy with it. As for my plasma cutter. I love it. I’ve had two others in the past and this is by far the best. I’ve cut the nastiest 1/2 in material with no issues. In manual mode it can cut up to 1” on the table with a table torch I think it reduces to 5/8”. 800usaweld.com/products/microcut-875sc-v2-plasma-cutter?ref=3tijle_owkg make sure to select the table torch if you go this route. Or both torches if you want to use it both ways. Also MANCRAFT5% will save you 5% on anything you buy. Including consumables.
Here’s a link to the red funnel. amzn.to/2YbnOXb
About to order a Crossfire Pro and came across your video. How often do you change the fluid in the table? Also, what do you do with the crud you pull out? Simply throw it in a garbage bag? Thanks for the great video!
The crud is just metal. I trash it. The liquid is bio degradable. I train what I can then wipe up the sediment.
@@ManCrafting how often do you find you need to change the liquid?
@@pr0jektcha0s I’m going to say it depends on the amount of cutting. If I used it everyday I’m guessing it would be every couple weeks. Me, maybe every 2-3 months.
@@ManCrafting Thanks for that info!
@@pr0jektcha0s happy to help.
Just sand your slats and slat holders and enamel paint them or replace them with aluminum... borax 😅
Certainly another option. I wasn’t a fan of borax though.
How do I contact you chad
My contact info is on my about page.
can't you just use vacuum cleaner to suck up all the water from the pan? We always use any wet/dry vacuum to vacuum anything!
I suppose you could, just keep in mind the water is loaded with steel. So it will probably tear up the vacuum fairly quick.
"Not an ideal solution"...I see wut u did thar
I have some great puns, but that might have been a total accident.