Honestly trying out someone else's suppressor is a good way to figure out what you want. I shot my dad's on a bunch of different stuff and felt like rifle and sub gun suppression was the most worthwhile because it made the biggest difference. This video is spot on. Love your content Rob keep it up!
Griffin Armament makes a QD adapter for pistols that works with their pistons for several suppressor brands. I find it especially convenient with my Ospreys because they index so easily. I performed the "ultimate we test" metered by AreveloSocom of NFATalk a few years ago. We put pretty much anything you can imagine in a Griffin Revolution 9K on a G4 Glock 17 with Silencerco threaded barrel. Sodas, oils, Greases, bubbles, bacon grease, Jack Daniels, vape juices, shaving cream, and more. Even bought "silencer juice" and "DB foam". The takeaway: anything water based works best. Currently working on a "secret sauce" formula to be quieter and last longer but for now a nasal spray bottle with tap water is what I use to shoot wet. ETA: the suppressor was cleaned between tests. The Glock was not. The inside looked like black mud. It was a testament to Glock reliability... I'm still a P365 / XDM guy.
I got a Hybrid 46 for my first suppressor so I can throw it on my rifle, my pistol, and my PCC. Surprisingly, with how heavy it is, my pistol just barely runs with it. I have an aftermarket recoil spring assembly with 3 different springs and I have the heaviest spring on there, I think it will work just fine with a weaker spring though (could be 100% wrong tho).
Good information based on reality and probability of use. Obviously many viewers won't agree as they don't have your same experience and background, and they want to have their EDC set up for every possibility rather than actual probability.
Wish I found your channel sooner. I went all in on multi-roll suppressors. Also focusing on mounting so I went with Griffin and rugged. I have the bushwhacker 46 the Optimus 9 the paladin 300 HD and the Optimus micro. For rugged I have the Alaskan 360 and the obsidian 45.
I say get the 9mm can because it's going to be that much smaller. I do love my Fly 9 and 45 pistol cans though, I put my Fly 45 in short config. On both my 45-70 where I load 500 gr subs and my FNX 45 tactic for fun. The Fly 9 goes on my P80 in short mode and I carry it around often in my semi and also goes on the 9mm Banshee for fun. I see a lot of utility in a short light and somewhat quiet pistol can.
The gunk on a pistol's red dot can help people stay target focused. I have trouble with this so I consider it a plus in training. It saves me the time to tape the front of my optic.
> The tilting barrel is one of many recoil operated systems available for pistols, but it's the most common. Others can be better suited for suppression. > The reason pistols usually need a Nielsen device or a muzzle booster is because the weight of the suppressor interferes with the energy needed to cycle the slide. Suppressors that are light enough don't need this booster. > The 3 lug muzzle mount is something that came from HK and by its nature has nothing to do with handguns. Just as rifles don't need a Nielsen device, pistol caliber carbines usually don't either. PCCs are often direct blowback though, so a suppressor can make the recoil even worse. Otherwise, good tips and insight. It seems like the only pistol suppressors worth getting are either for .22lr guns, or 9mm subguns and PCCs.
@@Ertactical It was used as a comparison within the pistol segment for some reason, as though it was your preference over direct threaded booster. It was weird.
The only situation where I keep a suppressor on my pistol is on my bedside pew pew for middle of the night B&E reaction. I don't want to be deaf when I'm giving my statement to the police. 😂😂
I sometimes will get blowback on my pistol red dots even without a suppressor. Not a huge deal, because they function the same. Check out Mike Pannone’s occluded dot shooting material on 1911 syndicate. An occluded dot forces target focus. I took that course and it was incredible
@@Ertacticalthe tech has gotten so reliable, and the industry has now mostly caught up with hardware solutions to accommodate a dot, including co-witness irons, that there are little to no objective negatives to running a dot on defensive sidearms.
Also holsters are now making the sidecar as a small suppressor holster for a small baffle stack can. If you couple that with the Griffin cam or ez (I like ez as I’ve had less loosening though a 33% longer thread time), it’s a pretty sweet combo. Match it with their thread protector that’s a micro comp (does nothing from what I can tell but bc taper interface is easy to get off fast vs threads) and I think it could be a viable option.
So, the Obsidian 45 tested almost the same as the Mod9 on 9mm. However, not only is the Obsidian modular, but it also limits the possibility of baffle strikes. That said, I own both and they are both great performers. Doubt if I will buy many more pistol caliber cans because they just aren't super practical. Totally agree about "universal" cans, there's not much use for them
Red dots: post an update when you hit bifocal season. Pistol suppressors: not every pistol goes in your pants. Suppressors are most needed indoors on the nightstand and home defense tools.
Lots to say here. You bring up good ideas and a healthy conversation is needed to make clarity. Maybe one day you and I will be on the range together and I can allow you the opportunity to try some techniques that have provided great value to my clients.
As I enter the suppressor world, the biggest problem I’m finding is all the mounting options and the things that you need to mount on pistols and rifles
Griffin's taper mount is probably the most universally compatible mount system out there. It has some down-sides, but being able to run every can I have on all of my platforms was what sold me. I can take my 9mm can and run it on a Glock and turn around and QD it onto a AR in a matter of minutes. To Rob's point, suppressing rifles is far more practical than handguns (.22 LR being the exception). Being able to shoot dirty sub-sonic .308 lead rounds through my serviceable Octane or high power 168 through my Explorr with the same mount is awesome.
Thanks for this, you'll save the people who are willing to listen to your advice a lot of time and money. I started with a 9mm can because like most first time suppressor buyers I was looking for something that I could use on multiple hosts. Now it's just my dedicated tri-lug can because I'm far enough down the rabbit hole that I'm dedicating suppressors to specific guns. Idk if you read your vid comments, but if you do, what's your stance on shooting 5.56 out of 30 cal suppressors vs dedicated 5.56 cans? I tend to prefer 30 cal cans on my DI ar15's because they generate less back-pressure/gas to the face and noise reduction is still perfectly acceptable.
ill shoot 556 in both 556 cans and 30 cals. my fave can for sound is actually the nomad 30L on a 556. super quiet. Also loving the SiCO Velos line up putting the 30 cal on everything and the 556K on the lil guns and its great! hope this helps! thanks for the support =)
Thanks man. I was debating on an all around suppressor but you made a good point on a rifle suppressor being heavy on a handgun and how a 9mm suppressor for 9mm would make it quieter. Ill get 1 for each.
Some good thoughts from Rob. I also don’t use a can on pistols much. Fun at the range is about it. A couple notes on Nielsen devices may need some clarification. They don’t add back pressure, they allow the barrel to move by using the spring inside to delay the weight transfer. Also, you mentioned blowback pistols but showed pistols with delayed unlocking(Beretta), not the same. Unless you’re suppressing a Hi Point, .22, Cheetah, etc…which are blowback.
Great Video. Wet cans are bad. I don't want splooge on my red dots. I'm currently in the market for a pistol caliber cans but waiting to see what comes out. CGS is supposed have something new coming out but they just keep telling me soon.
I got a Silencerco Hybrid 46 suppressor so that I can use it on all my rifles and pistols. I like that. Can shorten it for use on my pistol. I only wish it had less diameter so that I can use it without suppressor height sights on some of my pistols. 🤷
Sharing suppressors is like sharing condemns, just run dedicated suppressors on all your weapons! The same guys who say that is too expensive also own $10M in gear, just run dedicated suppressors! I budget it into any new run purchase, I already know before I buy a gun that I will be purchasing a suppressor for it. Every single SBR and PDW I have has a dedicated suppressor and I am up to 10 now.
Why would I argue about what YOU want to suppress? I choose to shoot 45 ACP and suppress it and 9mm. I have a Dead Air Primal that I use for my pistols. Waiting on my Hybrid 46 to do the same. I think with the whole NFA/tax stamp/wait time that it's a waste of time to get a 9mm can, when there is no modularity. At least I have the option whether or not if I choose to, to have the ability to suppress many different caliber of pistols/rifles. Edit: It's called different caliber end caps, to quite your suppressor and it's called Griffin Armament cam lok to not having to sit there and screw your suppressor on. I do agree with the suppressing of PCC.
As someone who owns a Hybrid 46m I wish I had gotten it way later instead of my 2nd can. Cans for specific calibers is better. Plus I don't have a large bore caliber rifle...yet. (modx45, 46m, obsidian9, polonium x2)
@@hueyvandiver9819 I suppress my pistols for enjoyment only(recreational). I don't use them suppressed for self defense. I actually am going the opposite route, I don't have a true pistol caliber can intentionally. I'll eventually get a dedicated pistol can. My rifles and PCC are a different story. I have 5 cans total(the Hybrid is currently on the waiting list). I get what you're saying, it's not applicable to my needs and wants.
I don't put a red dot on my carry pistol because i like it to be compact and a red dot isn't faster for me in the 1 to 10 yard range where most defensive uses happen and where i'm comfortable with my micro-compact pistol. But full size pistols? Competition, duty use, home defense? Needs a red dot.
I find it weird that so many firearms enthusiasts on social media seem to think the world can't get any worse. Didn't we all live through 2020? I absolutely see multiple use cases for suppressing sidearms as our society continues to fall apart.
In defensive applications within 7-10 yards, red dots offer no advantage over iron sights. With irons, there is no worry about the battery dying when you need it most, no worry about condensation/fogging with temp changes, no worry about crud getting on the sight window or emitter, and no worry about an electronic gizmo failing at the worst time. Murphy's Law never affected my iron sights.
So what are your thoughts on running a 9mm suppressor on a 22? While a 30cal is in my long term plans I am thinking the 9mm first. My 2 favorite calibers to run are 9mm and 22.
"Defensive situations"? You mean, at the range? In the field, 45 caliber pistols make a lot of sense. No one is hunting deer anymore with 357s much less 9mm. And, field shooting is where traditional hearing protection is a real detriment to your results. A silencer is a lot of money just to avoid foam rubber at tact tard day. I Form 1ed a 45ACP/Auto Rim, 16 inch integral silencer on a T/C Contender barrel. It is a long pistol when that is what Fish and Game allows me to carry, and a very light carbine with a collapsible AR stock otherwise. Being single shot there is no blowback, nor action function issues. I run a red dot because I can see it in either configuration so no re-sighting. It is fun, powerful, practical, was inexpensive, and is a joy to carry afield. It is the only pistol caliber carbine I own, and I had a pile of them before I realized what a waste of money they are. My thoughts on suppressors running into the hundreds and thousands of dollars are un-christian to say the least.
Did I see him talk about Nielsen Device as he screwed on a suppressor on Beretta M9? Wait that is a fixed barrel direct blowback pistol. Those don’t need a booster. 1:10
Thanks for this Rob, very timely. I am looking to suppress 45LC, 45-70, .30-30, up to supersonic 300blk, and 9mm. I have an AB F4L in ATF jail and a YHM Turbo K, and a DT-only .30 can, so 5.56, 9mm, and 300blk are least important to this convo. I was originally looking at a Rugged Obsidian45 but now I'm looking more at the YHM R45 to suit these needs since it's HUB adaptable. Do you have a better suggestion?
I was guilty of the second to last. My first can in 2018 was a griffin Optimus thinking that I could do it all with that because I too was not a 45 guy lol. Now I have 13 cans and counting. Just a little video edit question, I’m pretty sure if 357 is good to go in a 9 mm can With a .358 bore, right? Or am I off on this. I hope not for my Henry x sake lol.
Double check with the manufacturer/owners manual. 9mm is a .356 bullet and 357 is of course .357. The bore should be oversized a bit so it should be fine but the can may not be built to withstand 357 MAG. I use a DA Wolfman on my Henry X and it handles 38spl and 357MAG just fine.
@@sroberts421 exactly. I run a YHMR9 as well as a Rex MG 79 mm on my Henry X that I went and did the full Ranger point Precision on. No issues from either of those with 38 special or 357. Again manufacturing standards for a 9 mm can are actually .358.
PISTOL suppressors are for: 1) Fun 2) Movie Bad Guys 3) Cool Points/Status Symbols There is no practical application for running a silencer on a centerfire pistol, other than making movies and selling silencers. And there's nothing wrong with #1 or #3. Everything doesn't have to have a practical purpose. Prioritize based on your budget and realistic "needs" first. A good rimfire suppressor is loads of fun on a 22 pistol. It's cheap to feed and practice with. No pistons required for rimfire pistols either. And they are light and not too bulky to carry around. Much more practical for those reasons than a suppressed 9mm pistol.
Seems kind of contradictory. If you’re recommending people only get PCC suppressors, why not get one that's also rated for rifle calibers? I’m running that on an MP5 and it’s awesome.
@Frient i think the point was something like ' 9mm pistols aren't ideal hosts, but 9mm pccs are, so let that nugget of info sway your choice' he basically says 'sure youll try it on a handgun, but you will love it on a pcc. or sbr.
I am not recommending anything, I am sharing my lessons made. and yes MP5s are a blast to run with a can. as seen in the vid. thank you for your positive feed back and support
No one is conceal carrying a suppressed pistol. But outside the waistband have holster's that can take suppressors and could be beneficial depending on the situation. Also, no red dot on a pistol is some fudd attitude lol
@@Myk_drOp that’s one of the few areas where I agree with Rob. It’s not that. I think I was just expecting @nfareview level of insight. I just need to calibrate my expectations.
@@dangerlos this is positive feedback. Tell me what they’re doing differently that you wish was happening on our channel? If you’re talking about individual silencer reviews, we haven’t started doing that yet. That is where we would go into detail about the types of metals weights, and otherwise. We do intend to do that eventually. Right now we’re enjoying doing head to head testing. Please tell me more.I know it’s sometimes hard to text but I’m not offended and I am intrigued.
Honestly trying out someone else's suppressor is a good way to figure out what you want. I shot my dad's on a bunch of different stuff and felt like rifle and sub gun suppression was the most worthwhile because it made the biggest difference. This video is spot on. Love your content Rob keep it up!
Griffin Armament makes a QD adapter for pistols that works with their pistons for several suppressor brands. I find it especially convenient with my Ospreys because they index so easily.
I performed the "ultimate we test" metered by AreveloSocom of NFATalk a few years ago. We put pretty much anything you can imagine in a Griffin Revolution 9K on a G4 Glock 17 with Silencerco threaded barrel. Sodas, oils, Greases, bubbles, bacon grease, Jack Daniels, vape juices, shaving cream, and more. Even bought "silencer juice" and "DB foam". The takeaway: anything water based works best. Currently working on a "secret sauce" formula to be quieter and last longer but for now a nasal spray bottle with tap water is what I use to shoot wet.
ETA: the suppressor was cleaned between tests. The Glock was not. The inside looked like black mud. It was a testament to Glock reliability... I'm still a P365 / XDM guy.
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I got a Hybrid 46 for my first suppressor so I can throw it on my rifle, my pistol, and my PCC. Surprisingly, with how heavy it is, my pistol just barely runs with it. I have an aftermarket recoil spring assembly with 3 different springs and I have the heaviest spring on there, I think it will work just fine with a weaker spring though (could be 100% wrong tho).
Rugged Obsidian 9 was my first pistol can and even though I can run a 300BO on it I still plan on getting a dedicated 7.62 rifle can.
Good information based on reality and probability of use. Obviously many viewers won't agree as they don't have your same experience and background, and they want to have their EDC set up for every possibility rather than actual probability.
OCL Lithium with a Rearden Atlas hub adapter. Can use it on a 9mm, 300blk, 5.56, or 6.5 CM with a Rearden FHD muzzle device.
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Wish I found your channel sooner. I went all in on multi-roll suppressors. Also focusing on mounting so I went with Griffin and rugged. I have the bushwhacker 46 the Optimus 9 the paladin 300 HD and the Optimus micro. For rugged I have the Alaskan 360 and the obsidian 45.
good news! we are buds now =)
I say get the 9mm can because it's going to be that much smaller. I do love my Fly 9 and 45 pistol cans though, I put my Fly 45 in short config. On both my 45-70 where I load 500 gr subs and my FNX 45 tactic for fun. The Fly 9 goes on my P80 in short mode and I carry it around often in my semi and also goes on the 9mm Banshee for fun. I see a lot of utility in a short light and somewhat quiet pistol can.
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i truely appreciate your advise i learned something
Glad to help 😊
Getting a 45 cal can to "do it all," is fine IMO. ...Because most users will eventually upgrade to specific-caliber cans down the road anyway
Having more suppressors is never a bad thing. I have two each 30 cal and .22 and I have no complaints.
The gunk on a pistol's red dot can help people stay target focused. I have trouble with this so I consider it a plus in training. It saves me the time to tape the front of my optic.
Silver lining!
> The tilting barrel is one of many recoil operated systems available for pistols, but it's the most common. Others can be better suited for suppression.
> The reason pistols usually need a Nielsen device or a muzzle booster is because the weight of the suppressor interferes with the energy needed to cycle the slide. Suppressors that are light enough don't need this booster.
> The 3 lug muzzle mount is something that came from HK and by its nature has nothing to do with handguns. Just as rifles don't need a Nielsen device, pistol caliber carbines usually don't either. PCCs are often direct blowback though, so a suppressor can make the recoil even worse.
Otherwise, good tips and insight. It seems like the only pistol suppressors worth getting are either for .22lr guns, or 9mm subguns and PCCs.
Who said 3 logs were for pistols? As demoed we use 3 lug on an MP5.
@@Ertactical It was used as a comparison within the pistol segment for some reason, as though it was your preference over direct threaded booster. It was weird.
…are they actually IWB holsters that can hold a suppressed handgun? I’ve only seen OWB solutions.
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Another great video! Liked what you said about not buying a pistol caliber suppressor for a straight pistol, as opposed to a pistol caliber carbine.
The only situation where I keep a suppressor on my pistol is on my bedside pew pew for middle of the night B&E reaction. I don't want to be deaf when I'm giving my statement to the police. 😂😂
Rob is not a red dot on pistol guy? That needs to be changed.
I sometimes will get blowback on my pistol red dots even without a suppressor. Not a huge deal, because they function the same. Check out Mike Pannone’s occluded dot shooting material on 1911 syndicate. An occluded dot forces target focus. I took that course and it was incredible
maybe we will talk on this soon.
@@Ertacticalthe tech has gotten so reliable, and the industry has now mostly caught up with hardware solutions to accommodate a dot, including co-witness irons, that there are little to no objective negatives to running a dot on defensive sidearms.
@@surviveautodafe sounds like we need to make a video soon
You reddot guys are f*** annoying. Not because you use em, I have two. But because you are so fanatical about everyone else doing what you do.
Also holsters are now making the sidecar as a small suppressor holster for a small baffle stack can. If you couple that with the Griffin cam or ez (I like ez as I’ve had less loosening though a 33% longer thread time), it’s a pretty sweet combo. Match it with their thread protector that’s a micro comp (does nothing from what I can tell but bc taper interface is easy to get off fast vs threads) and I think it could be a viable option.
Great video, thoroughly enjoyed it. Super informative, thanks; I’ll have to investigate the whole PCC thing again.
Thank you 😊
Good suggestions. Thank you!
So, the Obsidian 45 tested almost the same as the Mod9 on 9mm. However, not only is the Obsidian modular, but it also limits the possibility of baffle strikes. That said, I own both and they are both great performers. Doubt if I will buy many more pistol caliber cans because they just aren't super practical.
Totally agree about "universal" cans, there's not much use for them
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Red dots: post an update when you hit bifocal season.
Pistol suppressors: not every pistol goes in your pants. Suppressors are most needed indoors on the nightstand and home defense tools.
Lots to say here. You bring up good ideas and a healthy conversation is needed to make clarity. Maybe one day you and I will be on the range together and I can allow you the opportunity to try some techniques that have provided great value to my clients.
I have an FNX-45 that i use my Obsidian 45 on, it's a blast. But that being said, I'm still looking for a dedicated 9mm suppressor for my AP5-P
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As I enter the suppressor world, the biggest problem I’m finding is all the mounting options and the things that you need to mount on pistols and rifles
Griffin's taper mount is probably the most universally compatible mount system out there. It has some down-sides, but being able to run every can I have on all of my platforms was what sold me. I can take my 9mm can and run it on a Glock and turn around and QD it onto a AR in a matter of minutes. To Rob's point, suppressing rifles is far more practical than handguns (.22 LR being the exception). Being able to shoot dirty sub-sonic .308 lead rounds through my serviceable Octane or high power 168 through my Explorr with the same mount is awesome.
Thanks for this, you'll save the people who are willing to listen to your advice a lot of time and money. I started with a 9mm can because like most first time suppressor buyers I was looking for something that I could use on multiple hosts. Now it's just my dedicated tri-lug can because I'm far enough down the rabbit hole that I'm dedicating suppressors to specific guns. Idk if you read your vid comments, but if you do, what's your stance on shooting 5.56 out of 30 cal suppressors vs dedicated 5.56 cans? I tend to prefer 30 cal cans on my DI ar15's because they generate less back-pressure/gas to the face and noise reduction is still perfectly acceptable.
ill shoot 556 in both 556 cans and 30 cals. my fave can for sound is actually the nomad 30L on a 556. super quiet. Also loving the SiCO Velos line up putting the 30 cal on everything and the 556K on the lil guns and its great! hope this helps! thanks for the support =)
Nice collection.
I agree on the wet suppressors. I wish I didn't buy one.
Thanks man. I was debating on an all around suppressor but you made a good point on a rifle suppressor being heavy on a handgun and how a 9mm suppressor for 9mm would make it quieter. Ill get 1 for each.
Some good thoughts from Rob. I also don’t use a can on pistols much. Fun at the range is about it.
A couple notes on Nielsen devices may need some clarification. They don’t add back pressure, they allow the barrel to move by using the spring inside to delay the weight transfer. Also, you mentioned blowback pistols but showed pistols with delayed unlocking(Beretta), not the same. Unless you’re suppressing a Hi Point, .22, Cheetah, etc…which are blowback.
Good notes, thank you for sharing
Great Video. Wet cans are bad. I don't want splooge on my red dots. I'm currently in the market for a pistol caliber cans but waiting to see what comes out. CGS is supposed have something new coming out but they just keep telling me soon.
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I got a Silencerco Hybrid 46 suppressor so that I can use it on all my rifles and pistols. I like that. Can shorten it for use on my pistol. I only wish it had less diameter so that I can use it without suppressor height sights on some of my pistols. 🤷
Sharing suppressors is like sharing condemns, just run dedicated suppressors on all your weapons! The same guys who say that is too expensive also own $10M in gear, just run dedicated suppressors! I budget it into any new run purchase, I already know before I buy a gun that I will be purchasing a suppressor for it. Every single SBR and PDW I have has a dedicated suppressor and I am up to 10 now.
That’s definitely the best way to do business!
Love the videos! What are your thoughts on suppressor covers?
Oh wow! how did I over look that! great topic! we will work on a vid for it. thank you
Great video as usual. 👍🏽
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@@Ertactical all good! Thank you for keeping the content coming.
Why would I argue about what YOU want to suppress? I choose to shoot 45 ACP and suppress it and 9mm. I have a Dead Air Primal that I use for my pistols. Waiting on my Hybrid 46 to do the same.
I think with the whole NFA/tax stamp/wait time that it's a waste of time to get a 9mm can, when there is no modularity. At least I have the option whether or not if I choose to, to have the ability to suppress many different caliber of pistols/rifles.
Edit: It's called different caliber end caps, to quite your suppressor and it's called Griffin Armament cam lok to not having to sit there and screw your suppressor on. I do agree with the suppressing of PCC.
As someone who owns a Hybrid 46m I wish I had gotten it way later instead of my 2nd can. Cans for specific calibers is better. Plus I don't have a large bore caliber rifle...yet. (modx45, 46m, obsidian9, polonium x2)
@@hueyvandiver9819 I suppress my pistols for enjoyment only(recreational). I don't use them suppressed for self defense. I actually am going the opposite route, I don't have a true pistol caliber can intentionally. I'll eventually get a dedicated pistol can.
My rifles and PCC are a different story. I have 5 cans total(the Hybrid is currently on the waiting list). I get what you're saying, it's not applicable to my needs and wants.
@@collinsingleton6899 Just went and shot my Colt A2 20" hbar with the 46m and it is HEAVY. FRP was there but it was decent afterwards.
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I don't put a red dot on my carry pistol because i like it to be compact and a red dot isn't faster for me in the 1 to 10 yard range where most defensive uses happen and where i'm comfortable with my micro-compact pistol.
But full size pistols? Competition, duty use, home defense? Needs a red dot.
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I find it weird that so many firearms enthusiasts on social media seem to think the world can't get any worse. Didn't we all live through 2020? I absolutely see multiple use cases for suppressing sidearms as our society continues to fall apart.
Interesting perspective, thank you for your feedback
Type b doesn’t tilt so what’s does it need for suppression
Why don't you put red dots on your pistols?
In defensive applications within 7-10 yards, red dots offer no advantage over iron sights. With irons, there is no worry about the battery dying when you need it most, no worry about condensation/fogging with temp changes, no worry about crud getting on the sight window or emitter, and no worry about an electronic gizmo failing at the worst time. Murphy's Law never affected my iron sights.
I agree with the points above plus a red dot on top of the slide is one more thing to snag on clothing when drawing a handgun.
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Is there any reason I shouldn't go with a HUXWRX Ca$H 9k for a dedicated PPC with tri-lug adaptor???
Maybe the Vent 2....
Why no red dot?
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So what are your thoughts on running a 9mm suppressor on a 22? While a 30cal is in my long term plans I am thinking the 9mm first. My 2 favorite calibers to run are 9mm and 22.
i like my 22;s to have 22 cans.. they are so small and light its hard to use another can. whey you can do so i def pref not due to size and weight.
"Defensive situations"? You mean, at the range? In the field, 45 caliber pistols make a lot of sense. No one is hunting deer anymore with 357s much less 9mm. And, field shooting is where traditional hearing protection is a real detriment to your results. A silencer is a lot of money just to avoid foam rubber at tact tard day. I Form 1ed a 45ACP/Auto Rim, 16 inch integral silencer on a T/C Contender barrel. It is a long pistol when that is what Fish and Game allows me to carry, and a very light carbine with a collapsible AR stock otherwise. Being single shot there is no blowback, nor action function issues. I run a red dot because I can see it in either configuration so no re-sighting. It is fun, powerful, practical, was inexpensive, and is a joy to carry afield. It is the only pistol caliber carbine I own, and I had a pile of them before I realized what a waste of money they are. My thoughts on suppressors running into the hundreds and thousands of dollars are un-christian to say the least.
No I mean defensive situations. Lots to unpack there. =) many train for, the range.
Your take on red dots on pistols would be appreciated.
It seems like everyone is slapping a red dot on a pistol without a second thought.
Yup, not me hahah
Check out the Mojave from dead air
dead air is dead in the water
@@Sageofthe16lol na still going strong but what’s your problem with them
@@Sageofthe16 nice! hahah thank you for your positive feed back and support
Did I see him talk about Nielsen Device as he screwed on a suppressor on Beretta M9? Wait that is a fixed barrel direct blowback pistol. Those don’t need a booster. 1:10
Theyre actually not fixed. The barrel moves back about a 1/4" so heavy pistol cans will choke the system up
@@roberthutchinson2856 100% correct
Thanks for this Rob, very timely. I am looking to suppress 45LC, 45-70, .30-30, up to supersonic 300blk, and 9mm. I have an AB F4L in ATF jail and a YHM Turbo K, and a DT-only .30 can, so 5.56, 9mm, and 300blk are least important to this convo. I was originally looking at a Rugged Obsidian45 but now I'm looking more at the YHM R45 to suit these needs since it's HUB adaptable. Do you have a better suggestion?
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Gee, thanks for a meaningful reply
I was guilty of the second to last. My first can in 2018 was a griffin Optimus thinking that I could do it all with that because I too was not a 45 guy lol. Now I have 13 cans and counting. Just a little video edit question, I’m pretty sure if 357 is good to go in a 9 mm can With a .358 bore, right? Or am I off on this. I hope not for my Henry x sake lol.
Double check with the manufacturer/owners manual. 9mm is a .356 bullet and 357 is of course .357. The bore should be oversized a bit so it should be fine but the can may not be built to withstand 357 MAG. I use a DA Wolfman on my Henry X and it handles 38spl and 357MAG just fine.
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@@sroberts421 exactly. I run a YHMR9 as well as a Rex MG 79 mm on my Henry X that I went and did the full Ranger point Precision on. No issues from either of those with 38 special or 357. Again manufacturing standards for a 9 mm can are actually .358.
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PISTOL suppressors are for:
1) Fun
2) Movie Bad Guys
3) Cool Points/Status Symbols
There is no practical application for running a silencer on a centerfire pistol, other than making movies and selling silencers.
And there's nothing wrong with #1 or #3. Everything doesn't have to have a practical purpose. Prioritize based on your budget and realistic "needs" first. A good rimfire suppressor is loads of fun on a 22 pistol. It's cheap to feed and practice with. No pistons required for rimfire pistols either. And they are light and not too bulky to carry around. Much more practical for those reasons than a suppressed 9mm pistol.
They make sense on a nightstand. I wouldn't try to shove my FNX 45, TLR1, and Osprey down my pants. Lol
@areekalaan a suppressed pistol makes less sense on a night stand than any good PCC or AR would standing beside that night stand, suppressed or not.
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@@sethwinn4061Preach. Well said
Pistol suppressors are for making the gun quieter. Anything after that is 'just like your opinion man' to qoute TBL.
Seems kind of contradictory. If you’re recommending people only get PCC suppressors, why not get one that's also rated for rifle calibers? I’m running that on an MP5 and it’s awesome.
aren't mp5s 9mm? (edit noted)
is the rugged alaskan any good for 338? i have been eyeballing that one.
@@Sageofthe16 I guess I was conflating caliber with a specific cartridge. The can I'm talking about is a rugged alaskan and it's .36 cal.
@Frient i think the point was something like ' 9mm pistols aren't ideal hosts, but 9mm pccs are, so let that nugget of info sway your choice' he basically says 'sure youll try it on a handgun, but you will love it on a pcc. or sbr.
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No one is conceal carrying a suppressed pistol. But outside the waistband have holster's that can take suppressors and could be beneficial depending on the situation. Also, no red dot on a pistol is some fudd attitude lol
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Not really, its just his personal preference.
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I’m not sure he is a great resource in general. Great topics and production quality but substance is lacking. Not always wrong just unreliable info.
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You hurt about the no red dot comment?
@@Myk_drOp that’s one of the few areas where I agree with Rob. It’s not that. I think I was just expecting @nfareview level of insight. I just need to calibrate my expectations.
@@dangerlos this is positive feedback. Tell me what they’re doing differently that you wish was happening on our channel? If you’re talking about individual silencer reviews, we haven’t started doing that yet. That is where we would go into detail about the types of metals weights, and otherwise. We do intend to do that eventually. Right now we’re enjoying doing head to head testing. Please tell me more.I know it’s sometimes hard to text but I’m not offended and I am intrigued.
All my doomsday, apocalyptic, EMP burst guns aren’t red dot compatible. Red dots will get fried so no point having a big optic that doesn’t work.
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Wait, you’re telling me my .45 cal can doesn’t suppress my MK18 as well as a dedicated 5.56 can?
Lies and blasphemy, Automatic downvote sir /s
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