Great quick breakdown video. Especially for new suppressor owners. With eform4 approval times coming in at 48 hours on average you'll see more folks getting into the suppressor market. Thank you, subbed 👊
One thing I don't believe people think about is how stable is your ammo, such as keyholing. The big mistake is manufacturers tend to screw up there ammo over time, or put out bad batches. Love when they change the formula and don't tell anyone. Try and make sure the bullet weight fits the twist, but it goes way beyond that as it doesn't always work that way.
Wow, good eye openning information here. I just purchased my first suppressor. I plan/planned to use it on multiple types of firearms of different calibers and barrel lengths. I bought a Silencerco Hybrid 46m thinking that was the best option. The Silencerco videos make it sound that way. He didn't mention anything about barrel length being an issue. I didn't see anything on the Silencerco website for the Hybrid 46m mention barrel length consideration. They don't mention using loctite at all. I have about $800.00 in muzzle devices, aside from the cost of the silencer itself. I haven't even shot a round through the silencer, and now I'm kind of worried to do so.
This very important information for all suppressor owners and future suppressor owners. As usual great content that is to the point and covers all the bases. 👍🏼👍🏼👏
I ordered a carbon fiber bore alignment rod. Still waiting for my can so I can use the rod haha. Always have loctite on standby but I see a lot of people say if you torque the muzzle device to 35 lb/ft they’ve never had one come loose. I ended up with a xeno hub and muzzle device system for my can with their taper seal. I agree with eying through the bore for a quick tool less check. Great video as always
This was a great video that i'm absolutely going to revisit . I'm currently shopping for my first can and I was worried about how to avoid baffle strikes and damaging the suppressor or myself. Can you do a video about suppressor maintenance next?
Another good video with some excellent info. Although I check for tightness regularly, I never thought about shaking the rifle to check for other loose parts, something I will incorporate. I would suggest a video on the pros/cons of various muzzle devices since there are likely lots of new suppressor owners with the reduced approval times. Although I generally prefer flash hiders, I only mount muzzle brakes to act as a sacrificial baffle. I'm sure many other viewers would like to know your take on this. Keep the outstanding videos coming.
Thank you for doing the reviews and providing the information no one else is doing. If it were possible to invest in a RUclips channel I would be purchasing shares because I have no doubt this channel will be successful. Never thought I would consider a $1500 suppressor but after watching the PTR review, I'm considering and looked online for options to purchase at my go to dealers. What efforts have you made to get a Griffin HRT or dual-lok or Recce??? I've been holding off on making a purchase until I can see some objective test for the newer Griffins. Congrats on the success of your channel
Thank you for the kind words and your support. We have the newest Griffin cans being sent to us soon for testing. With wait times being so low, many manufacturers are struggling to keep up with demand. Thanks for watching 🍻
My guess is that a lot rides on how well the muzzle was threaded. Factory threads should mostly be good, but gunsmith threads should probably be scrutinized closely. The guy that has done all my threading to this point has been super accurate! However, I am about to have to start using someone else due to the fact that my guy seems to no longer be around (he is/was an old Marine who had already had previous heart-related issues) so, not much choice but to find a new smith.
Orange loctite is like blue but heat and vibration resistant. I use it on everything gun related after i had a holster that kept coming loose with blue. It's been 3 years and i haven't had it come loose since.
Sandman S and K, Nomad L, Wolfman. Never had one fail on me, are you still dumping on DA because they had a bad batch from a bad vendor? Did you get burned by Sierra5?
Not even coping with my purchase but my s5 has been amazing, got about 1k rounds through it have only had it a couple months but it’s phenomenal for its size
Soooo many suppressors.. Can you give me a top 3? that you would recommend for an 11.5, 5.56 build I'm doing. I know there are variables but what would you run on your SHTF setup? Thank you brother. Love your channel.
For many reasons I prefer direct thread. Any suggestions on keeping direct threads from backing off so easy but still detachable? I wish washers were an option. I’ve heard teflon tape is an option or even blue loktite.
I've randomly gotten an end cap strike on my Rugged Obsidian 45, & I didn't notice until after I was done shooting. Just barely dented the end cap, even though the suppressor was tightly attached
I finished the video just in case I can learn something new. It is very informative! I knew all that, but it is still nice to watch a more structured video about it. I hated it when certain manufacturers played word games with the 'full auto rated' feature, especially on Ti cans. If someone takes it at face value and went to town with it, the can won't last long if it doesn't blow up.
The issue with red loctite is that it loosens up at 500F...which is not hard to reach when using a suppressor. CAT recommends, for example, to see how many rounds (and at what cadence) it takes for your Ti suppressor to reach 550F, and videos have shown that it's less than a single magazine (IIRC it's like 15 rounds). Like, obviously it's worked for you, but it wouldn't be my go-to threadlocker for things like this.
Also running ammo not designated for the can, can cause baffle strikes, end cap strikes or blockages. Once you get a round jammed in the can, you will continue to back up rounds until either you get a blow-out, or a catastrophic event.
@@Ertactical I don’t have a criminal background if that’s what you mean. My background of firearms shooting and knowledge comes from firsthand shooting guns while growing up. I also too a huge interest in guns in video games and specifically in escape from Tarkov which has a really robust gunsmith feature that compelled me to learn more about guns and accessories. I’ve also completed the intro to firearms class. Instructor intro to firearms and CCW classes.
Is torque alone good enough for a direct thread suppressor? I got my can extremely hot and tightened the direct thread mount to the can as well as the suppressor to the barrel. Now im thinking I should red Loctite it.
My gunsmith accidentally attached the muzzle device with a crush washer instead of shims. I didn’t notice until the suppressor went down range. Baffle strike + destroyed end cap. Not good.
I run dedicated suppressors on each weapon, never have used an alignment rod, use red locklite and thousands of rounds later I have never once had a problem.
Red loctite...Ask yourself: how much hotter do you get it with a torch to remove the can vs. a couple of mag dumps? And wouldn't you rather use hot water to loosen rockset vs taking a torch to your expensive toys to loosen red locktite?
My first thought is that you’re going to be hitting the melting point of red loctite pretty fast. The most popular red loctite melts at 500 degrees. Suppressor covers are 1000+ degrees minimum, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were hitting 500 pretty fast.
Red Loctite's max advertised temperature is just over 350 degrees, and easily turns to dust by 450-500 degrees of sustained heat. Considering just 1 30 round magazine can get your silencer threads up to 400-500 degrees, not a great option. The reason Rocksett is so popular is because it's a ceramic that can retain it's strength at 2000 degrees of sustained heat. Just because you haven't had a silencer back off on you doesn't mean the Loctite is still doing anything. If you are talking about a hunting rifle or something where you are not doing sustained or rapid firing, then it'll probably stand up (maybe). But why risk it? Loctite 272 is about $35 on Amazon for 1.2oz, Rocksett is $27 for 4oz. Why wouldn't you just go with the Rocksett considering less expensive and more effective?
So rockset my muzzle device, then locktight my adapter to can? I'm expecting my first suppressor in the next 2 weeks. Waiting on Capitol armory to ship.
So you just take their word on the matter, as opposed to someone independent conducting testing that you could do yourself? Could it be that the Cat cans may not perform as advertised? This channel provides valuable info that manufacturers sometimes may not like.
@JH-bp4mu 7 inches does NOT stabilize the 220 and it wobbles going through. If you're mag dumping, eventually you will have a baffle strike depending on length of can.
@@loneczgunner6562 I have shot a couple hundred rounds of 220 grain subs through my Q sugar weasel with a 7 inch barrel using a full length Q thunder chicken can, but I have not had any baffle strikes yet. Does anyone else think I should be worried about this ?
@JH-bp4mu yup... they use a 1 in 5 twist rate on their 300 blackout barrels don't they? Double check. But a 1 in 5 is much better than a 1 in 7 twist rate. Should stabilize those 220grs no problem.
Funny you mention sending cans down range. I carbon locked both my SF SOCOM RC1 and my FA665-212 Mini on the same day. It was my first time ever carbon locking anything too. Ended up doing the SF prescribed method to unlock them. Man that was painful in that I was nervous as hell. No issues, no baffle strikes, or anything bad. It just freaked me out a bit. Is it just me, or do the SF cans seem to like to lock up quicker on the SF brakes?
hahah yea thats nuts! I have had that conversation with them too.. Its one way of handling it.. I cant say I love SF cans. Thanks for your positive feedback and comments.
I have collected cans over many years. Since launching this channel many companies have sent us more. we will continue to do reviews regardless of what we pay, full price, discount, free they all get measured the same. Thank you! We love sharing good info and helping the quiet 2a community, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Can you make a video on how to install a suppressor via direct thread as well as muzzle devices suppressor mounts
Coming soon!
On it! thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Great quick breakdown video. Especially for new suppressor owners. With eform4 approval times coming in at 48 hours on average you'll see more folks getting into the suppressor market. Thank you, subbed 👊
One thing I don't believe people think about is how stable is your ammo, such as keyholing. The big mistake is manufacturers tend to screw up there ammo over time, or put out bad batches. Love when they change the formula and don't tell anyone. Try and make sure the bullet weight fits the twist, but it goes way beyond that as it doesn't always work that way.
def a good point. there are some problem children out there in the ammo department. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Some good advice there. Love seeing such an assortment of cans on display
thank you for the positive feed back =)
Great protocols to apply.
These extra steps go a long way to preventing simple but costly mistakes.
totally, thank you =)
Knowledge is power! Keep it up👊🇺🇸👊
Thanks for watching 🍻
Wow, good eye openning information here. I just purchased my first suppressor. I plan/planned to use it on multiple types of firearms of different calibers and barrel lengths. I bought a Silencerco Hybrid 46m thinking that was the best option. The Silencerco videos make it sound that way. He didn't mention anything about barrel length being an issue. I didn't see anything on the Silencerco website for the Hybrid 46m mention barrel length consideration. They don't mention using loctite at all. I have about $800.00 in muzzle devices, aside from the cost of the silencer itself. I haven't even shot a round through the silencer, and now I'm kind of worried to do so.
its always a good idea to have a bud check your setup before you send the first round if your new to cans. just to be safe
Nice. Thanks for the info. Just got my first suppressor in 7 business days.. im looking forward to trying it out but needed some knowledge
Congrats, 7 days is a great approval time compared to what we used to suffer (some folks still are). Thanks for watching, we appreciate the support 🍻
Food for thought - thank you.
This very important information for all suppressor owners and future suppressor owners. As usual great content that is to the point and covers all the bases. 👍🏼👍🏼👏
We appreciate your support 🍻
thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Thank you for making this video.
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I ordered a carbon fiber bore alignment rod. Still waiting for my can so I can use the rod haha. Always have loctite on standby but I see a lot of people say if you torque the muzzle device to 35 lb/ft they’ve never had one come loose. I ended up with a xeno hub and muzzle device system for my can with their taper seal. I agree with eying through the bore for a quick tool less check. Great video as always
thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
This was a great video that i'm absolutely going to revisit . I'm currently shopping for my first can and I was worried about how to avoid baffle strikes and damaging the suppressor or myself. Can you do a video about suppressor maintenance next?
Make sure it's snug and mounted properly and you'll be fine!
good idea, we will do it. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Another good video with some excellent info. Although I check for tightness regularly, I never thought about shaking the rifle to check for other loose parts, something I will incorporate. I would suggest a video on the pros/cons of various muzzle devices since there are likely lots of new suppressor owners with the reduced approval times. Although I generally prefer flash hiders, I only mount muzzle brakes to act as a sacrificial baffle. I'm sure many other viewers would like to know your take on this. Keep the outstanding videos coming.
on it, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Always excellent content.
very good
My CGS Hydra sheared apart the first 80 rounds last week. Gun club couldn’t find a baffle strike
oh man! that sucks
thanks for the vid
keep sharing
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Thank you for doing the reviews and providing the information no one else is doing. If it were possible to invest in a RUclips channel I would be purchasing shares because I have no doubt this channel will be successful. Never thought I would consider a $1500 suppressor but after watching the PTR review, I'm considering and looked online for options to purchase at my go to dealers. What efforts have you made to get a Griffin HRT or dual-lok or Recce??? I've been holding off on making a purchase until I can see some objective test for the newer Griffins. Congrats on the success of your channel
Thank you for the kind words and your support. We have the newest Griffin cans being sent to us soon for testing. With wait times being so low, many manufacturers are struggling to keep up with demand. Thanks for watching 🍻
hold tight we have 2 on they way, we will be testing soon. thank you for your kind words and support. it truly mans a lot to us!
Good video thank you
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thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
My guess is that a lot rides on how well the muzzle was threaded. Factory threads should mostly be good, but gunsmith threads should probably be scrutinized closely. The guy that has done all my threading to this point has been super accurate! However, I am about to have to start using someone else due to the fact that my guy seems to no longer be around (he is/was an old Marine who had already had previous heart-related issues) so, not much choice but to find a new smith.
well said, there are some QC issues out there, more now than ever
good info sir
Orange loctite is like blue but heat and vibration resistant. I use it on everything gun related after i had a holster that kept coming loose with blue. It's been 3 years and i haven't had it come loose since.
Good Intel! I’ll have to look into that. I didn’t know that they made an orange Loctite.
@Ertactical I actually lied. It's Permatex 25240.
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Huh? Never had but wanted to learn more.
What's the issue with Deadair?
Sandman S and K, Nomad L, Wolfman. Never had one fail on me, are you still dumping on DA because they had a bad batch from a bad vendor? Did you get burned by Sierra5?
Not even coping with my purchase but my s5 has been amazing, got about 1k rounds through it have only had it a couple months but it’s phenomenal for its size
@@JohnZ556 I have sandman S do I need to be worried?
Recommendations are more like guidelines 😉
I thought they were more like recommendations!? 😅
hahahha maybe haha thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Soooo many suppressors.. Can you give me a top 3? that you would recommend for an 11.5, 5.56 build I'm doing. I know there are variables but what would you run on your SHTF setup? Thank you brother. Love your channel.
I think we posted that vid 2 weeks ago
For many reasons I prefer direct thread. Any suggestions on keeping direct threads from backing off so easy but still detachable? I wish washers were an option. I’ve heard teflon tape is an option or even blue loktite.
Blue Loctite doesn't hold up to heat very well. Teflon tape is good to go.
Red loctite
I do red high temp LocTite on my DT cans, still check in on it. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
I've randomly gotten an end cap strike on my Rugged Obsidian 45, & I didn't notice until after I was done shooting. Just barely dented the end cap, even though the suppressor was tightly attached
yeah pistol cans have a few challenges that rifle cans don't have. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Aha! You recommend the red; I just commented on that a day ago.😆
I finished the video just in case I can learn something new. It is very informative!
I knew all that, but it is still nice to watch a more structured video about it. I hated it when certain manufacturers played word games with the 'full auto rated' feature, especially on Ti cans. If someone takes it at face value and went to town with it, the can won't last long if it doesn't blow up.
Thanks for watching 🍻
totally know what you mean.. everyone had a different def of "full auto rated". thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
The issue with red loctite is that it loosens up at 500F...which is not hard to reach when using a suppressor. CAT recommends, for example, to see how many rounds (and at what cadence) it takes for your Ti suppressor to reach 550F, and videos have shown that it's less than a single magazine (IIRC it's like 15 rounds).
Like, obviously it's worked for you, but it wouldn't be my go-to threadlocker for things like this.
yea, we def get to pick our path. good notes and thank you for sharing
Also running ammo not designated for the can, can cause baffle strikes, end cap strikes or blockages. Once you get a round jammed in the can, you will continue to back up rounds until either you get a blow-out, or a catastrophic event.
yup
I’m looking to become a firearms instructor myself. Any suggestions for someone looking to make it as a new instructor?
The path to a good instructor is a long road. Do you have a background?
@@Ertactical I don’t have a criminal background if that’s what you mean. My background of firearms shooting and knowledge comes from firsthand shooting guns while growing up. I also too a huge interest in guns in video games and specifically in escape from Tarkov which has a really robust gunsmith feature that compelled me to learn more about guns and accessories. I’ve also completed the intro to firearms class. Instructor intro to firearms and CCW classes.
can you test the cat wb? I shot one and was blown away but first can I shot so curious what you'd think idk
We've reached out to CAT but haven't received any response. Maybe they'll want to play in the near future as we gain more subscribers.
Love the can content
Thank you for the video, Loctite and check for wiggles. and more loctite
Plus more loctite! 😂...thanks for watching 🍻
hahah you got it! thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Is the bushmaster 46 a bad idea then?
Is torque alone good enough for a direct thread suppressor? I got my can extremely hot and tightened the direct thread mount to the can as well as the suppressor to the barrel. Now im thinking I should red Loctite it.
Yea it will come loose. but if you keep close tabs on it you might be ok
Just doing my part to the algorithm gods
Thank you, much appreciated 🍻
thank you
I guess this is why the Silencerco warranty even covers stupid...
Once...
hahah did you have a story to share?
My gunsmith accidentally attached the muzzle device with a crush washer instead of shims. I didn’t notice until the suppressor went down range. Baffle strike + destroyed end cap. Not good.
ouch! yeah thats a big no-no! thank you for sharing
I need a good SBR aupressor, 9" Barrel.
Lots of good ones out there, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
I run dedicated suppressors on each weapon, never have used an alignment rod, use red locklite and thousands of rounds later I have never once had a problem.
thats a great way of doing things, commit the can to the rifle. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
If you use red Loctite, you will play heck removing the suppressor to clean it..what about that?
#2 today
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Thanks for watching 🍻
Red loctite...Ask yourself: how much hotter do you get it with a torch to remove the can vs. a couple of mag dumps? And wouldn't you rather use hot water to loosen rockset vs taking a torch to your expensive toys to loosen red locktite?
Rocksett also has a higher temp threshold than Loctite.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 Right! I can break Red Locktite just by using common hand force.
yup, thats why most manufactures will recommend RockSet. But you get to make your own choices. thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
My first thought is that you’re going to be hitting the melting point of red loctite pretty fast. The most popular red loctite melts at 500 degrees. Suppressor covers are 1000+ degrees minimum, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they were hitting 500 pretty fast.
Red Loctite's max advertised temperature is just over 350 degrees, and easily turns to dust by 450-500 degrees of sustained heat. Considering just 1 30 round magazine can get your silencer threads up to 400-500 degrees, not a great option. The reason Rocksett is so popular is because it's a ceramic that can retain it's strength at 2000 degrees of sustained heat. Just because you haven't had a silencer back off on you doesn't mean the Loctite is still doing anything. If you are talking about a hunting rifle or something where you are not doing sustained or rapid firing, then it'll probably stand up (maybe). But why risk it? Loctite 272 is about $35 on Amazon for 1.2oz, Rocksett is $27 for 4oz. Why wouldn't you just go with the Rocksett considering less expensive and more effective?
So rockset my muzzle device, then locktight my adapter to can?
I'm expecting my first suppressor in the next 2 weeks. Waiting on Capitol armory to ship.
sounds like Christmas is coming! thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
@@Ertactical you did not answer the question.
do you ever purchase suppressors without asking for a discount?
you mean, "do I like paying full retail?" 🤣
I dm'd the cat guys on IG and they said your testing is dumb
hahah ok, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
So you just take their word on the matter, as opposed to someone independent conducting testing that you could do yourself? Could it be that the Cat cans may not perform as advertised? This channel provides valuable info that manufacturers sometimes may not like.
pew science ain't got nothing on rob
My number one method... DO NOT shoot 220gr subs out of 7in 300 blackout with a 1 in 7 twist and a full length can.
what happened?
Really ? has anyone else had any problems using 220gr 300 blackout subs with a 1 in 7 twist using a full length can ?
@JH-bp4mu 7 inches does NOT stabilize the 220 and it wobbles going through. If you're mag dumping, eventually you will have a baffle strike depending on length of can.
@@loneczgunner6562 I have shot a couple hundred rounds of 220 grain subs through my Q sugar weasel with a 7 inch barrel using a full length Q thunder chicken can, but I have not had any baffle strikes yet. Does anyone else think I should be worried about this ?
@JH-bp4mu yup... they use a 1 in 5 twist rate on their 300 blackout barrels don't they? Double check. But a 1 in 5 is much better than a 1 in 7 twist rate. Should stabilize those 220grs no problem.
Can you make a video about suppressor cleaning?
Coming soon!
good call thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Rocksett on my cans
If you don’t want a failure buy Yankee hill
we are testing 5 of them.. will report soon
Funny you mention sending cans down range. I carbon locked both my SF SOCOM RC1 and my FA665-212 Mini on the same day. It was my first time ever carbon locking anything too. Ended up doing the SF prescribed method to unlock them. Man that was painful in that I was nervous as hell. No issues, no baffle strikes, or anything bad. It just freaked me out a bit. Is it just me, or do the SF cans seem to like to lock up quicker on the SF brakes?
hahah yea thats nuts! I have had that conversation with them too.. Its one way of handling it.. I cant say I love SF cans. Thanks for your positive feedback and comments.
I can't stand hearing jay from pew science talk, thanks for starting this channel
FTA
thank you
tbh this channel is way more useful than anything pew science will ever do
Glad we could help! thank you for the positive words =)
you should be clear about who & what company sends you products
What in f*ck all does that have to do with this subject matter? It's a video on suppressor retainment.
I have collected cans over many years. Since launching this channel many companies have sent us more. we will continue to do reviews regardless of what we pay, full price, discount, free they all get measured the same. Thank you! We love sharing good info and helping the quiet 2a community, thank you for the positive feed back and support =)
Fast clearing? I’ve been waiting for 10 months now.
sorry man, i just had another clear today, 3 day wait hahah i know that sux to hear
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Yes, we are on Facebook, Instagram and Rumble: @SilencerSyndicate
when cat?
No have, we have reached out to them. Maybe some really cool fan will order us one 😅😂
looks like a whole lot of not CAT suppressors
haha yep, you wanna order us one for testing? We'd love to have one. maybe as our channel grows they will chat with us.
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Thank you! The firearm is a carbine! Not a carbean. Well done 👍
Car Bean
hahah I have many names for my rifle =)
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