I paused partway through the "What am I fighting for" segement to look up the "Fill your dark soul with light" clip for a laugh, so you can imagine my immense amusement when I resumed this video only to have that exact clip play.
Even the Roger Craig Smith sonic, something many people punch down on constantly was treated with a "Hes good, I know he can be a great sonic, but no one has given him good enough material to really flex off what he can do"
I feel like when you have athlete actors playing themselves instead of professional VAs, you shouldn't give them a script, rather just tell them what information they have to get across and let them improvise it as if they were saying it normally.
Writing is still important. Telling them to improvise would be a disaster! Those people are athletes, not really people you go to for, to put it lightly, well written conversation. They already sound like they're having trouble reading the script, what more if they have to actually think?
Though look how awful it is when it’s already written out for them, there may not be enough time before the games releases for them to finish their sentences.
The one with Mortal Kombat seems intentional lol. Like the skin is already like “we got this actor in the costume” so I think it makes it that much funnier that his deliveries aren’t great. He’s not some cold hard killer like the rest of those people so I’d expect him to sound a little timid
@@diegobendinelli2680 ya voice work for a random dlc skin is a blip on the radar compared to changing a main character's va to a mma athlete who, putting it mildly, lacked the skill of voice acting.
I would like to give a mention in the comments to the cutscenes in two Fire Emblem games, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. It's sad that no one outside the FE fandom laughs at the hilariously awful voice acting in these. "Form up! Surround them all! Don't let a single one escape!"
It's funny, because everybody was introduced to the series via awakening, which had good voice acting, and people often assume it was the first. It wasn't.
Sonic voice acting is something I could talk about for hours on end......yeah I have a problem. It just feels like every time a cast gets it's footing with how they want a character to sound and act, out they go for the cycle to repeat (except for Mike Pollock. Even SEGA knows enough to understand it doesn't get much better than him). The Colours cast has to have had the longest time to really settle in mostly due to the writing sounding like it was made by 2 people who knew literally nothing about Sonic when they started OH WAIT!
IMO Mike is actually not even the second best Eggman. That isn’t implying he’s bad either, it’s just that Eggman has had some INSANELY good VAs. Deem Bristow and Long John Baldry were fucking fantastic. It’s a real damn shame both of them died. I’m still fine with Mike though, although he is a bit of a jackass outside of being a VA. Still the best VA of the meta Era, which isn’t saying much considering how bad the meta era cast is.
I love the production values on this channel, and what I've really been fond of is the little cassette pop-up of "this is the music now". It's ridiculously common to think "WAIT I KNOW THAT MUSIC BUT FROM WHERE", and having the answer right there in a little unobtrusive short-lasting popup? It is the glory.
Found out the other day that the reason everything changed in the dubbing of Shadow the Hedgehog is that it was the first game that 4Kids did the dubbing for. Yes. That 4Kids. The ones responsible for the Shadow Realm in Yu-Gi-Oh. They dubbed most of the Sonic games for a solid period, their last being Sonic and the Black Knight.
Coming from Xenoblade 2, it is a goldmine of good and bad voice acting. On one hand, Morag, Zeke, Vandham, Malos, Akhos and Amalthus are all absolute masters at the craft. On the other, Nia and Rex, especially at the beginning of the game, can be so bad sometimes it’s hilarious. Jin’s line readings are also incredibly fast-
Honestly, aside from Rex's unforgivable scream-adjacent lines at the start of the game, it feels to me like it's more down to poor direction than actual voice acting ability.
Yeah, Rex's VA had his first (not sure if game, if overall) role as Rex, which unfortunately means he didn't start off well. He does get better with time, which is good.
Obligatory ‘Xenoblade 2 is a mixed bag of a game’ comment. So many little things just really bug me and lead me to not liking it as a game. I’ve said it a million times on other channels, so I won’t repeat myself here. I absolutely love the story and that is something I will admit is the best part of the game! The gameplay… Yikes.
3:04 The only kid characters that _were_ voiced by kids at the time that I think were done _well_ - as far as I recall - were Leonard Helperman from Teacher's Pet and Chowder from, well, Chowder. The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack had one that _also_ wasn't voiced by an adult woman, the titular Flapjack...and that was because he was voiced by an adult _man_ - none other than the show's own creator, Thurop Van Orman.
This was a few years later, but Aaron Dismuke did a bang-up job voicing Alphonse in the original Fullmetal Alchemist as a kid. That one's always been a standout performance from a child voice actor in my mind...but there's a reason those are pretty rare, and that's the same reason why Mona Marshall dubbed pretty much every adolescent boy character in anime for a decade.
I unironically love bad voice over. As an aspiring VA, having a reference on what NOT to do is great. But more than that, I live for the cheese. These games wouldn’t be nearly as iconic without the stupidity of “you’re gonna crash! AHH!” or “WHAT AM I FIGHTING FORRRRR?”
Also looking for a VA career, and cheesy video game deliveries are the best thing ever. Two other classics being: “I SHOULD’VE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHHHT.” “Wesker, you’re pitiful!”
To be fair, having the mouth movements be off in DBFZ feels kinda fitting considering it's such a nostlagia fest. I genuinely wonder whether that was a decision they made or just... ArcSys being Arcsys. Probably the latter.
I'm so glad you ended up showing the Lucas Gilbertson fandub of the "What am I fighting for" scene, cause he's my favorite voice of Zero from X8 and Command Mission
@@bumblesmcfumbles Personally, my full Sonic lineup would be: Sonic: Jason Griffith(or Ryan Drummond) Tails: Kate Higgins(the one meta era VA on this list lmao) Knuckles: Scott Dreier Amy: Lisa Ortiz Eggman: Deem Bristow(RIP) Shadow: David Humphrey(or Jason Griffith) Rouge: Kathleen Delaney(I don’t really have a preferred Rouge, but I don’t like her adventure voice so I’m going with the 4kids one) Omega: Anyone, really. Big: Jon St. Jon or DUKE NUKEM lmao. Silver: Pete Capella(duh) Blaze: Erica Schroeder Bonus(never had a VA but I thought it’d be funny) Scourge: Dave Mustaine(yes, really, lol)
I will say a thing with lipflaps, is that with games that use Unity/Unreal, they have the ability to sync lip flaps to the actual vocal frequency instead of needing to do it manually. They've had this tech since Half Life 2(Yes, even 20 year old Source has this feature.), although it wasn't automatic like AI scripts can do now (Instead you put some markers in the sound file to tell the engine what mouth shape to make at what time.). The issue is that a lot of gaming companies would rather use Havoc, Cryware (Ew) or their own proprietary engine instead of an open engine like those two, so they have to figure out those scripts themselves. Fun Fact, Nintendo has moved over to Unity/Unreal for faster game production in most mainline nintendo games. I believe Odyssy was made in Unreal. (That'd also explain why Nintendo games are so easy to mod on a console.)
Mario Oddessy doesn't use unreal It's a heavily modified version of the The Super Mario 3D world Engine which was then later used for Bowser's Fury. The only Nintendo Published Game I know for certain use Unreal 4 are Link's Awakening and Yoshi's Crafted World, which were developed by Third Party Developers. Super Mario Odyssey is pretty optimized for the Switch where as most Unreal Engine 4 games have some frame rate issues and occasional the texture pop in issues associated Unreal Engine. These days Nintendo supposedly recommends Unity over Unreal as Unity is easier to optimize for performance on Switch.
The problem is he delivers it so flat. A voice crack in a highly emotional state makes sense, but the rest of the line sounds like he was reading the line at 1 AM before realizing halfway through it was supposed to be emotional.
@@BillyBob-xx5jr fair enough, I guess. But why does everybody bring that 1 up & give a free pass to DMC3 when Dante says "My soul is telling me to STOPYOU!" ?
Dude...the voice crack was bad, but then they took it added reverb and echoed it a bunch of times to emphasize it as much as they could, to literally push it in the player's ears. It's like polishing and displaying a turd. Maybe that's why it's so remembered. (Yeah the IS TELLING ME TO STOP YOUUU was pretty bad too)
sorry i keep thinking about the "i don't know if you know this, but english isn't the main language of japan / *What?*" back and forth, it's so god damn funny. you have really good comedic timing, man
Sonic the Hedgehog is a prime example of what not to do in voice acting. Not the bad voice actors but the idiots who messed the actors up with bad scripts and idiotic decisions.
Roger Craig Smith's voice acting in sonic is great, but I feel that his voice fits Boom sonic better than the normal Sonic, which makes it even more infuriating that they cut any development for Boom sonic when they decided to ruin Rise of Lyric by making it a Wii-U exclusive. It WAS planned for more powerful consoles, but they had to downgrade the engine, and restart from scratch, when they got told this
roger has a "nathen drake" feel to his sonic voice to me which fits sonic boom perfectly. also, it really is a shame what happened to sonic boom's game. there was potential and the stuff people have found years later really highlights how fucked over the dev were in that project.
honestly i love roger craig smith as a va anyways but ur absolutely right, he was PERFECT for boom sonic and with other games its a bit more mixed (not bad by any means, and its not like the dialogue helps him lmao)
Wow a video about bad voice acting in video games and not one single mention of Jill Sandwich(tm)??? Unsubscribed, unliked, uncommented and unclicked on that bell, good sir! Also, hearing the Zero line acted seriously feels so wrong for some reason.
Lots of people like to hate on English voice acting, especially in anime, often saying it's not as good as Japanese. Sure some performances aren't great (such as ones in this video) but I feel these people are very quick to call out bad ENG VAs while ignoring bad JP (or really any bad foreign) VAs. Part of that can be due to being easier to pick up on off performances with languages you're more familiar with, other times it's due to placing foreign VAs on a pedestal to the point that one becomes convinced that performances in your native language are automatically bad. Obviously the reverse can happen too but that's less common I find. If you happen to prefer one language over another when it comes to voice acting fine, but if you're gonna criticize & call out bad ENG performances then it's only fair you do the same for foreign ones as well. Same with recognizing & praising both good ENG & foreign performances.
Have to say, I'm surprised Metroid Other M wasn't listed. the english voice work in that game is bad. you flat out had a non-native speaker of english directing Samus's VA to sound as monotone and borderline robotic as possible. from what i understand that is a cultural thing in japan where you sound at peace but that does not translate over at all in english.
I just wanted to point out that Steve Blum also voiced starscream in Transformers prime frankly he should just voice every version of old screamer from now on as he did the best job at showing starscream as both a conniving schemer and cowardly loon
Thanks for not bringing up Xenoblade 2. The English delivery can be a bit stilted (due to the circumstances surrounding the dub) but overall I think it's solid. When games like Arc Rise Fantasia, Baten Kaitos, and Chaos Wars exist, I boggle that some people say that Xenoblade 2 has the worst English VA in a JRPG.
@@bumblesmcfumbles tbh one thing you should have picked was Ronda's performance as Sonya Blade in MK11, rather then a cameo from a Belgian DJ who is not an actor by trade and whose first language is not english... idk one of those things seem MUCH bigger then the other.
20:57 Actually had to do a double take here. Gregor and Gaius?? I had no idea you'd even be familiar with the characters, let alone do voice work for them in a fandub. I'm honestly blown away here.
I did want to mention you CAN get good voice acting performances out of professional athletes. The simpsons did it in one of the best episodes of the show
Cant believe you missed the "Remember. There is no such thing as a second chance." From house of the dead 2 that was an Iconic Line I quote to this day
Hey, say what you will, I will stand on the hill saying that Ben Scwartz's performance as Sonic was magnificent. I love Roger's work, especially his performance in the Colors Ultimate shorts, but Scwartz stole the show in the movie.
I'll get to catch the video as it goes up one of these times. Great job as usual! I had no idea what the third game was until you said it. I had no idea it was a Sega game!
Weird tangent but I want to thank you or mentioning that little bit over how what you look like doesn't matter so long as you can fit the voice role properly. I've seen a bit of discourse over if voice actors, notably white ones, should be playing roles of characters that aren't their ethnicity and while there is definitely something to be said about giving people of color deserving fitting roles, as a POC one myself, prioritizing if the person and character are the same ethnicity over them actually fitting the role of a character feels like just the other logical extreme of the issue. Not to mention how people seem total fine when it's an Asian character in anime being voiced by a white person since I guess they 'look white enough' which is already a WHOLE nother conversation. TL/DR: As long as you turn in a fitting performance, what you look like should be irrelevant unless its a role that really calls for a certain ethnicity because An authentic Jamaican accent is VERY different to an improvised one lol
god i remember a bunch of people were calling out funimation for a character in my hero academia not sounding black enough when the voice actress WAS BLACK. at some point a good intentioned movement turned into complaining about things and possibly showing off one's own racial bias.
@@Zekana0 God, I remember that too! And its funny because what did they even mean by 'not sounding black enough'? Like there's not one universal black voice, it comes in all ranges and tones. Its like they wanted her to sound like she's from the hood or something when they phrase it like that. That's the double edged sword of the more 'sensitive' world we live in currently I find, people become so hyper fixated on something **potentially** being an issue that they develop all sorts of weird paranoia and logic and end up causing more trouble than if they just let things be and end up exposing their own insensitive or ignorant world views and standards.
I was gonna mention using "Work Harder" as the background music during the segment about weird Shenmue voice acting (because the song heavily samples Deulin's weird grunting from the game) but like five other guys in this comment section already did so I uh... well I guess I did too. UH HUH.
Man, the original dub for Yakuza was weird. Really did taint the series reputation, pretty much until zero. BUT, it did have Mark Hamill play Majima, so all is forgiven.
Sonic gamers: Knuckles is Jamaican. Sonic Comic readers: Knuckles is Australian. I heard Shenmue was voiced by American expats who had no experience in voice acting.
I actually knew the Chaos Wars story already! It's because it was the only place Brandon Heat had seen the sun in years! What a horrific disappointment!
I would like to add that the english cast for Xenoblade 2 was never given visuals for what was going on, so they had to play it by ear. That's why it can sound a bit off in some places.
I hate the complaints about Dinklage's voice acting in Destiny. The man's character is literally a robot. Of COURSE it's going to sound a bit robotic. It makes the small bits of emotion here and there more impactful.
“Sonic sounds like a skateboarder who just flipped his hat backwards to keep it real”
…so, like Sonic, then
I paused partway through the "What am I fighting for" segement to look up the "Fill your dark soul with light" clip for a laugh, so you can imagine my immense amusement when I resumed this video only to have that exact clip play.
*Bumbles was 4 parallel universes ahead of you.*
Did Dante have a voice crack when he said the "Fill your dark soul with light" line?!
@@ChaseMC215no.
@@ChaseMC215 Yes he did and it's amazing
"Bizzarre orders from higher ups" seems to be just Sega's motto most of the time
Nah it's "don't give the developers enough time to finish the game because we want to release it for christmas"
@@carso1500 I think this is Game Freak’s motto
"So this is Goldman's HQ..."
*building fucking explodes*
Honestly I'm just glad Sonic wasn't picked on unfairly. There's actually some great voice acting in some of their games.
Even the Roger Craig Smith sonic, something many people punch down on constantly was treated with a "Hes good, I know he can be a great sonic, but no one has given him good enough material to really flex off what he can do"
@@antonymilne1346 And boy oh boy, Frontiers finally did it!
I feel like when you have athlete actors playing themselves instead of professional VAs, you shouldn't give them a script, rather just tell them what information they have to get across and let them improvise it as if they were saying it normally.
Writing is still important. Telling them to improvise would be a disaster! Those people are athletes, not really people you go to for, to put it lightly, well written conversation.
They already sound like they're having trouble reading the script, what more if they have to actually think?
I haven’t watched the whole video yet but I get the feeling you’re talking about Sonya from mk11 lmao
Aiiight (Okay)
Though look how awful it is when it’s already written out for them, there may not be enough time before the games releases for them to finish their sentences.
What trips me out is most of them have college educations and can't read for shit
The one with Mortal Kombat seems intentional lol. Like the skin is already like “we got this actor in the costume” so I think it makes it that much funnier that his deliveries aren’t great. He’s not some cold hard killer like the rest of those people so I’d expect him to sound a little timid
I would have expected him to rip into Ronda's performance as Sonya MUCH MUCH MORE.
@@diegobendinelli2680 ya voice work for a random dlc skin is a blip on the radar compared to changing a main character's va to a mma athlete who, putting it mildly, lacked the skill of voice acting.
Fun fact: Typing of The Dead's gameplay was inspired by how HOTD 2's voice actors were given their lines
I would like to give a mention in the comments to the cutscenes in two Fire Emblem games, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. It's sad that no one outside the FE fandom laughs at the hilariously awful voice acting in these.
"Form up! Surround them all! Don't let a single one escape!"
It's funny, because everybody was introduced to the series via awakening, which had good voice acting, and people often assume it was the first.
It wasn't.
*Also poor Rolf in the same Cutscene, but thank god Heroes fixed his voice*
@@Lucas17031 I still to this day don't understand why they thought it was a good decision to keep Mia's original voice for FEH in the first place
"The voice acting in [Three Houses] is... We've come a long way from Path of Radiance." - Bismix
@@icarusmarioFAN I personally don't mind Lani Minella as Mia at all tbh, her Summer alt's VA though... Oof
Sonic voice acting is something I could talk about for hours on end......yeah I have a problem. It just feels like every time a cast gets it's footing with how they want a character to sound and act, out they go for the cycle to repeat (except for Mike Pollock. Even SEGA knows enough to understand it doesn't get much better than him). The Colours cast has to have had the longest time to really settle in mostly due to the writing sounding like it was made by 2 people who knew literally nothing about Sonic when they started OH WAIT!
Ikr
IMO Mike is actually not even the second best Eggman. That isn’t implying he’s bad either, it’s just that Eggman has had some INSANELY good VAs. Deem Bristow and Long John Baldry were fucking fantastic.
It’s a real damn shame both of them died. I’m still fine with Mike though, although he is a bit of a jackass outside of being a VA. Still the best VA of the meta Era, which isn’t saying much considering how bad the meta era cast is.
@@sheacorduroy5565 The same with the german VA for Eggman...he was perfect in his job. Sadly he died but german Boom Eggman replacement was also good.
Tldr
@@sheacorduroy5565 Long John Baldry was more of a “Robotnik” than an Eggman, but yeah, his performance is undeniably iconic
Can we give an honorable mention to that one Oblivion NPC literally saying "wait let me do that one again" before repeating herself?
I love the production values on this channel, and what I've really been fond of is the little cassette pop-up of "this is the music now". It's ridiculously common to think "WAIT I KNOW THAT MUSIC BUT FROM WHERE", and having the answer right there in a little unobtrusive short-lasting popup? It is the glory.
This man needs to be known more than the “punch out man”, don’t get me wrong, they’re excellent videos, but his other videos are excellent!
Found out the other day that the reason everything changed in the dubbing of Shadow the Hedgehog is that it was the first game that 4Kids did the dubbing for.
Yes. That 4Kids. The ones responsible for the Shadow Realm in Yu-Gi-Oh. They dubbed most of the Sonic games for a solid period, their last being Sonic and the Black Knight.
Coming from Xenoblade 2, it is a goldmine of good and bad voice acting. On one hand, Morag, Zeke, Vandham, Malos, Akhos and Amalthus are all absolute masters at the craft. On the other, Nia and Rex, especially at the beginning of the game, can be so bad sometimes it’s hilarious. Jin’s line readings are also incredibly fast-
Honestly, aside from Rex's unforgivable scream-adjacent lines at the start of the game, it feels to me like it's more down to poor direction than actual voice acting ability.
Yeah, Rex's VA had his first (not sure if game, if overall) role as Rex, which unfortunately means he didn't start off well. He does get better with time, which is good.
@@Rogeryoo
He gets his grip pretty dang fast. By chapter 5 there are almost no problems, and final two chapters he really pulled A game VAship
@@goroakechi6126 yeah, definitely. I guess he's the real life equivalent of Slow Start, like in pokemon.
Obligatory ‘Xenoblade 2 is a mixed bag of a game’ comment. So many little things just really bug me and lead me to not liking it as a game. I’ve said it a million times on other channels, so I won’t repeat myself here.
I absolutely love the story and that is something I will admit is the best part of the game! The gameplay… Yikes.
Having "Work Harder" play in the background for the Shenmue section is the only correct option.
3:04 The only kid characters that _were_ voiced by kids at the time that I think were done _well_ - as far as I recall - were Leonard Helperman from Teacher's Pet and Chowder from, well, Chowder. The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack had one that _also_ wasn't voiced by an adult woman, the titular Flapjack...and that was because he was voiced by an adult _man_ - none other than the show's own creator, Thurop Van Orman.
This was a few years later, but Aaron Dismuke did a bang-up job voicing Alphonse in the original Fullmetal Alchemist as a kid. That one's always been a standout performance from a child voice actor in my mind...but there's a reason those are pretty rare, and that's the same reason why Mona Marshall dubbed pretty much every adolescent boy character in anime for a decade.
I unironically love bad voice over. As an aspiring VA, having a reference on what NOT to do is great. But more than that, I live for the cheese. These games wouldn’t be nearly as iconic without the stupidity of “you’re gonna crash! AHH!” or “WHAT AM I FIGHTING FORRRRR?”
Also looking for a VA career, and cheesy video game deliveries are the best thing ever. Two other classics being:
“I SHOULD’VE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHHHT.”
“Wesker, you’re pitiful!”
I’m convinced that Goldman is actually the G-Man trying to voice act. Even the name makes sense
Chaos Wars is the Slow Start Regigigas of dubbed games, it's one negative vastly overshadows the positives
The knuckles thing gets me everytime the long awkward pause between tail's hilariously bad acting and the pathetic pumches of knuckles is great
Who are you even talking about? That’s Puncho the Magnificent
“ Years ago I was Chinese”
To be fair, having the mouth movements be off in DBFZ feels kinda fitting considering it's such a nostlagia fest.
I genuinely wonder whether that was a decision they made or just... ArcSys being Arcsys. Probably the latter.
Man I really love the no more heroes transitions you have.
Same haha
I'm so glad you ended up showing the Lucas Gilbertson fandub of the "What am I fighting for" scene, cause he's my favorite voice of Zero from X8 and Command Mission
Okay he didn’t shittalk Jason Griffith.
Congrats, you get to keep your kneecaps!
Nah I love him! He's a great voice for Sonic
@@bumblesmcfumbles Thank you, lmao.
@@bumblesmcfumbles me too
None of Sonic’s voice Actors suck
@@bumblesmcfumbles Personally, my full Sonic lineup would be:
Sonic: Jason Griffith(or Ryan Drummond)
Tails: Kate Higgins(the one meta era VA on this list lmao)
Knuckles: Scott Dreier
Amy: Lisa Ortiz
Eggman: Deem Bristow(RIP)
Shadow: David Humphrey(or Jason Griffith)
Rouge: Kathleen Delaney(I don’t really have a preferred Rouge, but I don’t like her adventure voice so I’m going with the 4kids one)
Omega: Anyone, really.
Big: Jon St. Jon or DUKE NUKEM lmao.
Silver: Pete Capella(duh)
Blaze: Erica Schroeder
Bonus(never had a VA but I thought it’d be funny)
Scourge: Dave Mustaine(yes, really, lol)
Thanks for the Popeye info! That was actually fun!
Learning is fun!
I will say a thing with lipflaps, is that with games that use Unity/Unreal, they have the ability to sync lip flaps to the actual vocal frequency instead of needing to do it manually. They've had this tech since Half Life 2(Yes, even 20 year old Source has this feature.), although it wasn't automatic like AI scripts can do now (Instead you put some markers in the sound file to tell the engine what mouth shape to make at what time.). The issue is that a lot of gaming companies would rather use Havoc, Cryware (Ew) or their own proprietary engine instead of an open engine like those two, so they have to figure out those scripts themselves.
Fun Fact, Nintendo has moved over to Unity/Unreal for faster game production in most mainline nintendo games. I believe Odyssy was made in Unreal. (That'd also explain why Nintendo games are so easy to mod on a console.)
Wait, Nintendo uses unreal? Their games look so different from what I would associate with that engine.
@@siy202 yep Luigi's Mansion 3 and Yoshi's wooly world were made in Unreal.
@@archmagemc3561 I feel like my life is a lie now
Mario Oddessy doesn't use unreal It's a heavily modified version of the The Super Mario 3D world Engine which was then later used for Bowser's Fury. The only Nintendo Published Game I know for certain use Unreal 4 are Link's Awakening and Yoshi's Crafted World, which were developed by Third Party Developers. Super Mario Odyssey is pretty optimized for the Switch where as most Unreal Engine 4 games have some frame rate issues and occasional the texture pop in issues associated Unreal Engine. These days Nintendo supposedly recommends Unity over Unreal as Unity is easier to optimize for performance on Switch.
I personally don't find the Dante "dark soul with light" line to be bad. Sure, it's a bit corny but the voice crack adds to Dante's emotional state.
The problem is he delivers it so flat. A voice crack in a highly emotional state makes sense, but the rest of the line sounds like he was reading the line at 1 AM before realizing halfway through it was supposed to be emotional.
@@BillyBob-xx5jr fair enough, I guess. But why does everybody bring that 1 up & give a free pass to DMC3 when Dante says "My soul is telling me to STOPYOU!" ?
Dude...the voice crack was bad, but then they took it added reverb and echoed it a bunch of times to emphasize it as much as they could, to literally push it in the player's ears. It's like polishing and displaying a turd. Maybe that's why it's so remembered. (Yeah the IS TELLING ME TO STOP YOUUU was pretty bad too)
Why do the sports guys all sound like they just woke up from a decade long coma?
why is the "what am i fighting for?" clip in a video exclusively about bad voice acting when it is such a legendary clip?
Becuase everyone’s asking what he’s fighting for
Sega is always somehow in the cycle of "if it's good, make it bad" but at least most of their failures are of a hilarious one snd not boring.
sorry i keep thinking about the "i don't know if you know this, but english isn't the main language of japan / *What?*" back and forth, it's so god damn funny. you have really good comedic timing, man
Sonic the Hedgehog is a prime example of what not to do in voice acting. Not the bad voice actors but the idiots who messed the actors up with bad scripts and idiotic decisions.
Roger Craig Smith's voice acting in sonic is great, but I feel that his voice fits Boom sonic better than the normal Sonic, which makes it even more infuriating that they cut any development for Boom sonic when they decided to ruin Rise of Lyric by making it a Wii-U exclusive. It WAS planned for more powerful consoles, but they had to downgrade the engine, and restart from scratch, when they got told this
roger has a "nathen drake" feel to his sonic voice to me which fits sonic boom perfectly. also, it really is a shame what happened to sonic boom's game. there was potential and the stuff people have found years later really highlights how fucked over the dev were in that project.
honestly i love roger craig smith as a va anyways but ur absolutely right, he was PERFECT for boom sonic and with other games its a bit more mixed (not bad by any means, and its not like the dialogue helps him lmao)
Wow a video about bad voice acting in video games and not one single mention of Jill Sandwich(tm)??? Unsubscribed, unliked, uncommented and unclicked on that bell, good sir!
Also, hearing the Zero line acted seriously feels so wrong for some reason.
Jill Sandwich was literally the last thing I cut. like 11th hour stuff
“Uncommented” …wait a minute.
@@bumblesmcfumbles .... across or diagonal?
@@Strykerx31 I can only assume double-cut roll.
Lots of people like to hate on English voice acting, especially in anime, often saying it's not as good as Japanese. Sure some performances aren't great (such as ones in this video) but I feel these people are very quick to call out bad ENG VAs while ignoring bad JP (or really any bad foreign) VAs. Part of that can be due to being easier to pick up on off performances with languages you're more familiar with, other times it's due to placing foreign VAs on a pedestal to the point that one becomes convinced that performances in your native language are automatically bad. Obviously the reverse can happen too but that's less common I find.
If you happen to prefer one language over another when it comes to voice acting fine, but if you're gonna criticize & call out bad ENG performances then it's only fair you do the same for foreign ones as well. Same with recognizing & praising both good ENG & foreign performances.
17:03 When the man in the van says that he has candy in the back:
“All the voice acting feels like a ransom note.” -Running Shine (Sonic Adventure review)
"You fucked up my face."
-Hunt Down the Freeman
And now….
Mitchell, please…I can explain…
*You have my permission to die.*
Have to say, I'm surprised Metroid Other M wasn't listed. the english voice work in that game is bad. you flat out had a non-native speaker of english directing Samus's VA to sound as monotone and borderline robotic as possible. from what i understand that is a cultural thing in japan where you sound at peace but that does not translate over at all in english.
Other M’s voice actor isn’t good, but there’s far worse than it out there.
15:36 I know him for killer croc in the Arkham series, and vilgax
I just wanted to point out that Steve Blum also voiced starscream in Transformers prime
frankly he should just voice every version of old screamer from now on as he did the best job at showing starscream as both a conniving schemer and cowardly loon
Holy crap. The text to speech Terminalmontage used for There's Something About Typing of the Dead looks like an improvement compared to the original.
Chaos wars goes beyond typical bad voice acting and makes me wonder if they hired human beings.
I will admit, wasn't expecting to hear Trombe! in one of these videos
I'm surprised Bloody Roar 4 isn't here, but then again I'm not because no one even knows what Bloody Roar _is._ I blame Konami.
Shenmu did blessed us with that worker's moan while helping hauling hard cargo that became part of that amazing Lisa The Painful song.
"You know what's coming next. But, you know what? Let's save that for last."
Oh, Chaos Wars. Cool, can't wait for--
"So first, let's talk about Chaos Wars"
"Momma? I'm your momma?" ~Princess Peach Toadstool/Peach-Hime
Thanks for not bringing up Xenoblade 2. The English delivery can be a bit stilted (due to the circumstances surrounding the dub) but overall I think it's solid. When games like Arc Rise Fantasia, Baten Kaitos, and Chaos Wars exist, I boggle that some people say that Xenoblade 2 has the worst English VA in a JRPG.
Oh it wasn't even in consideration when I was picking games
At the very least it's a good game
@@bumblesmcfumbles tbh one thing you should have picked was Ronda's performance as Sonya Blade in MK11, rather then a cameo from a Belgian DJ who is not an actor by trade and whose first language is not english... idk one of those things seem MUCH bigger then the other.
19:04 Dr. Light sounds like Elmer Fudd lmao
I love every version of zero's what am I fight for line
Shenmue feels like a foreign action film,so bad voice over fits it like a ring
So bad its good
years ago, he was chinese. not anymore though
He grew out of it.
Yeah, he didn’t pay John Gotti his due so he took his nese. Now he’s just Chi
Docta wawy
20:57 Actually had to do a double take here. Gregor and Gaius?? I had no idea you'd even be familiar with the characters, let alone do voice work for them in a fandub. I'm honestly blown away here.
I did want to mention you CAN get good voice acting performances out of professional athletes. The simpsons did it in one of the best episodes of the show
Those basketball men sounded like they were literally cold-reading their lines off a page.
Cant believe you missed the "Remember. There is no such thing as a second chance." From house of the dead 2 that was an Iconic Line I quote to this day
15:43 vilgax was voiced by Yuri lowenthal in the reboot I think, he was only voiced by blum in the classic series.
Hey, say what you will, I will stand on the hill saying that Ben Scwartz's performance as Sonic was magnificent.
I love Roger's work, especially his performance in the Colors Ultimate shorts, but Scwartz stole the show in the movie.
I'll get to catch the video as it goes up one of these times. Great job as usual! I had no idea what the third game was until you said it. I had no idea it was a Sega game!
Shenmue: "A long time ago, I was Chinese."
"Today, I am Belgian. In the future, even I don't know."
@@nick-playercharacter8583 Better a Belgian than a Belkan.
Don't be a Belkan.
Some of these are so monotone, they sound like they're putting effort into not putting any effort into these performances.
11:53 the only acceptable follow up to a line delivery like that is an incredibly detailed strutting animation.
I just found this channel and I love the transition to the outro.
It reminds me of Chowder..
I love that show-
6:25 I see what you did here with the music
Best song ever
8:35 the high-pitched "you son of a bitch" 😂😂😂😂
Petition to rename Knuckles to Puncho the Magnificent
Getting through this video without bringing up Resident Evil is probably the most impressive thing I've seen you do on this channel
Ryo's contribution to Project X Zone 2 is a better continuation of the Shenmue plot than Shenmue 3.
Weird tangent but I want to thank you or mentioning that little bit over how what you look like doesn't matter so long as you can fit the voice role properly. I've seen a bit of discourse over if voice actors, notably white ones, should be playing roles of characters that aren't their ethnicity and while there is definitely something to be said about giving people of color deserving fitting roles, as a POC one myself, prioritizing if the person and character are the same ethnicity over them actually fitting the role of a character feels like just the other logical extreme of the issue. Not to mention how people seem total fine when it's an Asian character in anime being voiced by a white person since I guess they 'look white enough' which is already a WHOLE nother conversation.
TL/DR: As long as you turn in a fitting performance, what you look like should be irrelevant unless its a role that really calls for a certain ethnicity because An authentic Jamaican accent is VERY different to an improvised one lol
god i remember a bunch of people were calling out funimation for a character in my hero academia not sounding black enough when the voice actress WAS BLACK. at some point a good intentioned movement turned into complaining about things and possibly showing off one's own racial bias.
@@Zekana0 God, I remember that too! And its funny because what did they even mean by 'not sounding black enough'? Like there's not one universal black voice, it comes in all ranges and tones. Its like they wanted her to sound like she's from the hood or something when they phrase it like that. That's the double edged sword of the more 'sensitive' world we live in currently I find, people become so hyper fixated on something **potentially** being an issue that they develop all sorts of weird paranoia and logic and end up causing more trouble than if they just let things be and end up exposing their own insensitive or ignorant world views and standards.
I was gonna mention using "Work Harder" as the background music during the segment about weird Shenmue voice acting (because the song heavily samples Deulin's weird grunting from the game) but like five other guys in this comment section already did so I uh... well I guess I did too.
UH HUH.
Man, the original dub for Yakuza was weird. Really did taint the series reputation, pretty much until zero. BUT, it did have Mark Hamill play Majima, so all is forgiven.
Ohhhh, so you were the guy who did Duel Links voiced videos! I subscribed to you from your first Punch Out infractions video XD
Man that's an amazing reference to put Work Harder over the shenmue segment, just wanted to let you know someone out there got it!
" 10 Years in the Joint made you a pussy! "
- Akira Nishkiyama
Sonic gamers: Knuckles is Jamaican.
Sonic Comic readers: Knuckles is Australian.
I heard Shenmue was voiced by American expats who had no experience in voice acting.
I actually knew the Chaos Wars story already! It's because it was the only place Brandon Heat had seen the sun in years! What a horrific disappointment!
This is a really underrated channel
Haven't seen the video yet but I really hope that once scene from dmc one is in here
It was im happy now
10:12
Is that...Trombe I hear!?
Hey at least you had a VA role, I haven't even gotten that far. I so desperately would like to be one but I don't know where to begin
You woke up today and chose violence against Sega lolol
Edit: I’m going to your voice acting profile
Muhahaha
Funny was this wasn't meant to be a sega hit piece but you know sometimes Sega does what sega do and what that do is be bad at everything
11:54 pinocchio, Is that you? Same energy 💅👑
10:02 Why is Bojack Horseman talking to me all of a sudden
Could you imagine if the 24th video covered punch out again? Every 8th video we get punch out
0:16 fun fact about John Di Maggio, he is the voice actor of Marcus Fenix.
I saw the years ago I was Chinese clip out of context and I commented this maybe it's he's cityzenship
16:15 thank you ProtonJon for ingraining this into my brain
I would like to add that the english cast for Xenoblade 2 was never given visuals for what was going on, so they had to play it by ear. That's why it can sound a bit off in some places.
I’m still mad abt jamaican knuckles. it wouldve been shit but like. i wouldve had it yk (my ma’s side is jamaican)
Yu Suzuki basically pulled a Ken Penders when he maintained all of the rights to make sequels to every franchise he made.
Man, I never knew House of the Dead 2 was 1 of 3 games voiced by that crew on the same day. It really helps explain that nonsense performance.
I paused in the middle of the Shenmue segment and bought Shenmue 1 and 2 on steam. This video fully convinced me
I hate the complaints about Dinklage's voice acting in Destiny. The man's character is literally a robot. Of COURSE it's going to sound a bit robotic. It makes the small bits of emotion here and there more impactful.
I apperciate that you played 'Work Harder' for the Shenmue section.
Missed the OG Resident Evil which was notorious for bad voice acting and bad writing, 'Jill Sandwich' anyone?
My mom use to walk by me playing Sonic and she’d always say tails sounded like Charlie Brown.