@@tonymeck-lj8rv There's no point turning up, trying to look all clever, unless you are going to say something that's actually interesting. The first thing I wrote was 'RIP'. With that written alongside somebody 'passing', you either lack intelligence or you are just a terrible troll if you fail to understand what I meant. That first guy looked a fool with his pointless comment, and now you've joined him. Congratulations. This whole conversation has been pointless and a complete waste of all of our time. Hopefully this clears this up for you both.
Karl Josef Assaunmacher is a refs name I'll never forget. I remember watching this and it's great you have the full broadcast. Graham Taylor, Brian Moore, Ray Wilkins and Trevor Francis all sadly gone 😢😢
Classic Matches, Thanks for providing this crucial World Cup qualifier between Holland and Graham Taylor's England-and a game certainly not short on controversy!
I don't remember this match personally but I remember my dad talking about this game and how Ronald Koeman talked himself out of a red card then went on to score the opening goal
Cant blame Koeman ( who admitted later on he should have seen red) . A stronger ref would have given the correct card , or maybe he was paid off before the game anyway
No talking about 49:08 in the media. _Ooh my goodness. He wasn’t offside. I must confess. We had the luck of a flag there, that’s for sure. Why can have no complaints there_ - English TV commentary
Not having a habituated defence (why not Arsenal's?) and world-class full-backs cost us. Dorigo was excellent at club level and was a cracking free-kick specialist, but just kicking the ball back to the Dutch showed he felt out of his depth - he did have a tough job, but Ashley Cole / Walker, etc later showed the quality needed at WC level. I liked Parker, but he was equally mindless in possession at times. How Taylor couldn't also see that what we needed was a player up top, like Sheringham, from the outset to receive all those mindless booted balls, get them to stick, and then thread them through. Even Shearer couldn't do it in this game and was lost as a consequence. Sharpe was invisible unless conceding the ball, and Merse showed flashes of skill, but as with Waddle, there was never an end product for England in the must-win games. Seaman was a twunt and I never forgave him! I couldn't believe we weren't going to the USA despite supporting a team with the likes of Thomas and Palmer.
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Taylor messed up the England team in this era by trying to be too clever. Just pick the arsenal back 5. Put le tissier or beardsley at number 10. Shearer and either sutton/ferdinand/ up front...the midfield platt,waddle....guys like sinton,palmer,le saux,merson were not England level in my opinion..he seemed to like picking serie A based stars like walker and dorigo again i think the Arsenal lads were better and already a team
Absolutely. Play the Arsenal back line with Le Tissier as a number 10 and Shearer/Ferdinand up front would’ve been devastating. And where was Mcmanaman? So many excellent players available and Taylor picked the likes of Palmer, Dorigo and Parker
The Arsenal back four were out of their depth in Europe. Too slow for international football. Serie A was the best league in that period and those players played against the best in the world
I wonder if this was the last time that, as a Sheffield Wednesday fan myself, the club had a player in Carlton Palmer, playing for England?! Who knows with the brilliant Danny Rohl, we could have another England Owl's player within 3 or 4 years?! I can dream..😊
Never realised that this Dutch starting line up featured NO full backs/wing backs whatsoever. Not by position, not by usual trade. The Dutch weren't scared to try different things tactically. The polar opposite of the English/British sides.
Seaman was horrendous in this match - even with his good saves - and I honestly think he was rather poor for England in big matches in general. He seemed to save his worst decisions for the worst possible moments (like his positioning on Bergkamp's goal). That said, the yellow card for Koeman was a farce and he certainly would have been sent off if this match had been played in the age of VAR. Even VAR would have gotten that right without question.
What cost England was the failure to beat Norway twice drew with them at Wembley 1-1 when leading 1-0 and the 2-0 away defeat added the draw with Poland away England drew 3 games whereas Norway and Holland only drew 2
I remember watching this game, and was amazed at Taylors selection, and unfit Shearer, Carlton Palmer and Tony Dorigo, I think his hand was forced due to suspensions and injures, but please you had the whole Arsenal back four to choose from, and you pick Dorigo!. You have to agree with Taylor that the officiating in the game was terrible, the Ref looked as though he was way out of his depth. However, as a team, you should never rely on the officials to win you a game.
Dorigo is actually under rated - if you’re talking about the Arsenal back four, I’d probably pick Dorigo above Winterburn for left back. He won the ‘92 league with Leeds, and was in the ‘90 world cup squad. Other selections bu GT are more questionable to me, namely Palmer, Pallister and Sharpe. Even Merson up front, I would have probably preferred Wright or Sheringham.
1:21:32 Koeman points outside the box as the referee runs past him pointing to the penalty spot. The ref then realises he won't get paid his bonus so turns back and agrees with Koeman.
Just watching this a day before the Euro 2024 SF....ITV interviewing Platt and Taylor slagging off the ref as he and the celebrating Dutch players just walk past is bizarre! Graham calling R Koeman "the blond fella." Rijkaard in first half was about 5 yards onside so equally terrible call to the non red card. Pallister was England's best player, Palmer and Lee Sharpe hopeless.
what a gean player was letissier one of my favorites from the 90s. England has always had great footballers but I was surprised that he only played 8 times with his team. they were gascoigne, blatt, merson, ince. but letissier should have played much more than class he had
Criminal the way he was constantly overlooked for England, probably the most naturally-gifted English player in the 90s. Flair players have always been and will always be ignored by the FA hierarchy in favour of those who show greater athletic talent.
I know, there wouldn't've been a problem had Le Tissier played this one. Graham Taylor totally ignored some of the great players of the time, like Steve Bruce, Chris Waddle & Matt Le Tissier.
Taylor was an awful manager at this level. Shearer was unfit and Merson playing terribly. Taylor should have gone for Hateley and Ian Wright for this game it would have gotten a result, they were both in scintillating form.
I think this was a game that we could have even won let alone drawn, even with those players. Not saying we would've got past the group stage if we had qualified, but (going purely on fifa rankings at the time) we had a much tougher qualification group than we regularly get these days - Norway #3, Dutch #8, and even the Polish were 28th. Turkey was the only turkey. (I Thank You). Nowadays England's stiffest test in qualification is the footballing powerhouse of Moldova or some such. And we still do our best to make an arse of it.
@@DeyoutubehutvanoomSietse not my fault! I can’t help being born in a country that’s incapable of winning a trophy for 60 years 😂 - still got to support them!
That really was an awful England side. Carlton Palmer and Lee Sharpe in a 3 man midfield? Carlton always gave 110%, but lacked quality and technical ability at this level. Lee Sharpe, just wasnt all that great (overrated and overhyped at that time), and certainly wasn't a 'worker'. Lots of long balls and hoofing it forward. Thank god our game in England has massively improved. In terms of skill, technique, and keeping possesion, our players nowadays match other nations.
Most of that team wouldn't get in the current England side. I would only have Adams and Seaman in it. I would exclude Shearer because of Harry Kane and there's only enough room for one in my side.
hahaha what a joke. nowadays english players are frail headless chicken running around. overrated overhyped and just weak. they would die playing strong teams like these.@@michaelmoores2654
Very talented Roy. Injured a lot moved from Ajax to Foggia and Nottingham Forest. Was Coaching at Ajax but nowadays is known for political statements online.
من محاسن التلفزيون السعودي النادرة أنه نقل هذه المباراة التي صاحبها تغطية اعلامية كبيرة وأحاديث مع باقي الطلبة في الثانوية كنا نعرف أن دريغو سيكون أساسي وأن باركر لا خوف عليه وعودة شيرر ستقوي الهجوم لكن غياب جاسكوين سيكون مشكلة وزاد الحكم الأمر سوءاً وداعا جراهام تايلور كم نقدرك من السعودية 🇸🇦
Weird team. Taylor could've given himself a much better chance this night had he opted to bring back the likes of Chris Waddle and Peter Beardsley. Also McManaman was starting to blossom and probably would've already been worth a cap. A lot of players let him down on the night, Sharpe and Shearer spring to mind. Unlucky for Merson not to at least score one. RIP Graham Taylor, truly a lovely man.
During this era, shud have gone for a 3-2-3-2.....Seamen,.Walker...Adams.Pearce.. Adams n walker can defend set pieces n Walker with his pace ( Palister was slow ) can cover....Then id have Ince n Platt in front protecting them. They can play on the ball so it would have given us extra men in midfield.. Then Merson, Gazza, Waddle.. Behind front two of Beardsley n Le Tissuer. I know Gazza was injured alot so u cud put Merson or le Tissuer in Gazzas position or Right midfield , With The extra spot up front going to Ferdinand , shearer or Wright. You need invention at that level , not Sinton, Palmer, Webb, Sharpe, etc..ughr...THIS team wudnt give the ball away either. Barnes had lost his pace then, so I'd have Stevie Mac as sub AND the Rest of the Arsenal defenders as back up.
seasman was poor with 2 goals ,, why take off Merson,,, Taylor was a poor manager ,,,,, oh for Terry Venables ...Ian wright had pace never given a real chance
I forgot that we only needed a draw because of goal difference. If koeman was sent off we would have easily got the draw and gone to the World Cup. Graham Taylor was the most unlucky England manager
49:08 Unlucky? _Ooh my goodness. He wasn’t offside. I must confess. We had the luck of a flag there, that’s for sure. Why can have no complaints there_ - English TV commentary
@@drfibonacci7570 Yes Taylor had zero luck in the qualifyers. onside goals were given offside every other week back then. Koeman assaulting platt, not getting sent off and scoring 5 minutes later was what saw Holland go to USA instead of England.
@@Ayoung2028 Zero luck? More like zero memory! 1:22:45 _Well, the Dutch were robbed in the first half when Rijkaard goal was disallowed. England robbed of something there._
@@drfibonacci7570 sorry, I thought you knew a bit about Graham Taylor’s reign as England manager but from that comment you clearly don’t, I’ll have to leave the conversation now
@@Ayoung2028 If he had luck in the first half, the amount of luck he had was non-zero. So what you're saying is not correct. Feel free to leave the conversation though.
@kenshiro7960 not one bad game , he had a mare in the Holland game at Wembley and away at Poland too, probably affected by his nightmare move to Sampdoria at the time. But to answer your question I think the Oslo defeat was Walker last ever game for England
@@kenshiro7960 tbh it wasn't down to Walkers poor form , damage was done by Taylor's selections as well as bad luck with key injuries. I was a fan of Walker but I doubt we would have qualified for USA 94 even if he played a blinder throughout the qualifications
1:26:03 this is probably the worst ever positioning of a goalkeeper in the history of football, he’s standing outside of the far post giving koeman a shot at an empty net
1:26:05 Sometimes Seaman's positioning was mind-boggling. Great goalkeeper over the years, one of the true greats, but this is reminiscent of Nayim and Ronaldinho lobbing him from all sorts of positions.
In fairness Koeman's reputation proceeded him and Seaman's form for about 3 years was patchy compared to 91 when he should have been in the running for PFA player of the year. His positioning was awful though and he was my hero. The wall didn't need to be as big either but ultimately Taylor wasted so much potential in this squad.
Wow! Frank Rijkaard was about 3 miles onside for the disallowed goal... I mean I hate VAR and alot of things about the modern game but you can see why something needed to be done about these awful decisions.
i can't believe how poor quality this match is, so many bad passes. It wasn't until holland got stam/davids/seedorf did they become world class. Now i understand why they weren't fancied at the 94 wc.
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RIP to Wilkins and Francis. Both sadly now passed.
Passed what? It? Their prime?
@@DannyBoy777777
You've never heard the term of somebody passing? Or somebody who has passed? Are you English?
@@bobbypukes605 even english people take words to mean something literal and NOT as a metaphor so whats your point
@@bobbypukes605 you forgot about graham taylor and brian moore also as well now passed as you put it
@@tonymeck-lj8rv
There's no point turning up, trying to look all clever, unless you are going to say something that's actually interesting. The first thing I wrote was 'RIP'. With that written alongside somebody 'passing', you either lack intelligence or you are just a terrible troll if you fail to understand what I meant. That first guy looked a fool with his pointless comment, and now you've joined him. Congratulations. This whole conversation has been pointless and a complete waste of all of our time. Hopefully this clears this up for you both.
Karl Josef Assaunmacher is a refs name I'll never forget. I remember watching this and it's great you have the full broadcast. Graham Taylor, Brian Moore, Ray Wilkins and Trevor Francis all sadly gone 😢😢
*Assenmacher
@@ShaneJoshua1980 hope he was sacked from refereeing after this game
Fun fact: after this match, Karl Josef Assenmacher never officiated another international match again
@@gabrielrosario3585 He was already 46 years old back then.
Classic Matches,
Thanks for providing this crucial World Cup qualifier between Holland and Graham Taylor's England-and a game certainly not short on controversy!
0:13 Incredible to see Norway leading the group, and Netherlands and England battling for the crumbs.
Tore Andre flo is just as big as haaland today. Olg solksjaer
Norway was a tough rival for every team, even the Brazilians
I don't remember this match personally but I remember my dad talking about this game and how Ronald Koeman talked himself out of a red card then went on to score the opening goal
Cant blame Koeman ( who admitted later on he should have seen red) . A stronger ref would have given the correct card , or maybe he was paid off before the game anyway
No talking about 49:08 in the media.
_Ooh my goodness. He wasn’t offside. I must confess. We had the luck of a flag there, that’s for sure. Why can have no complaints there_ - English TV commentary
@@drfibonacci7570 yes Rijkaard was onside , ref had a nightmare all game
1:54:20 platt to the referee
“He should have f*cking gone off there and you f*cking know it”
He's not wrong
Too bloody right.
David Platt had every right to feel angry with the referee.
58:00 RIP Ray Wilkins and Trevor Francis.
he's gonna flick one, hes gonna flick one....
He actually said flip..............
I remember this game so well. Was well depressed the next day
I WAS SOOOOO HAPPY AND THE SAN MARINO GAME😂😂😂
I swear Tony Dorigo looks about 52 years old here. They don't make young people like that anymore.
WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN INSTRUCTED?!!!
YOU KNOW THE RULINGS EY!!
What cost England a spot at USA 94 was that from 92/93 GT didn't have a set team guy used different players throughout the qualifying campaign
sure. also England lost to Norway away and draw at home was another cost.
Not having waddle and Beardsley really cost England big time
Totally agree! couldn't understand why they were left out, and they missed Pearce too big time for this game.
And Gazza...
Not having a habituated defence (why not Arsenal's?) and world-class full-backs cost us. Dorigo was excellent at club level and was a cracking free-kick specialist, but just kicking the ball back to the Dutch showed he felt out of his depth - he did have a tough job, but Ashley Cole / Walker, etc later showed the quality needed at WC level. I liked Parker, but he was equally mindless in possession at times. How Taylor couldn't also see that what we needed was a player up top, like Sheringham, from the outset to receive all those mindless booted balls, get them to stick, and then thread them through. Even Shearer couldn't do it in this game and was lost as a consequence. Sharpe was invisible unless conceding the ball, and Merse showed flashes of skill, but as with Waddle, there was never an end product for England in the must-win games. Seaman was a twunt and I never forgave him! I couldn't believe we weren't going to the USA despite supporting a team with the likes of Thomas and Palmer.
@@bocjagne2878 I thought Seaman could have done better with the goals too.
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Taylor messed up the England team in this era by trying to be too clever.
Just pick the arsenal back 5. Put le tissier or beardsley at number 10. Shearer and either sutton/ferdinand/ up front...the midfield platt,waddle....guys like sinton,palmer,le saux,merson were not England level in my opinion..he seemed to like picking serie A based stars like walker and dorigo again i think the Arsenal lads were better and already a team
Agree. What a team yours would've been with Ince as the final midfield player.
Absolutely. Play the Arsenal back line with Le Tissier as a number 10 and Shearer/Ferdinand up front would’ve been devastating. And where was Mcmanaman? So many excellent players available and Taylor picked the likes of Palmer, Dorigo and Parker
The Arsenal back four were out of their depth in Europe. Too slow for international football. Serie A was the best league in that period and those players played against the best in the world
I wonder if this was the last time that, as a Sheffield Wednesday fan myself, the club had a player in Carlton Palmer, playing for England?! Who knows with the brilliant Danny Rohl, we could have another England Owl's player within 3 or 4 years?! I can dream..😊
Never realised that this Dutch starting line up featured NO full backs/wing backs whatsoever. Not by position, not by usual trade. The Dutch weren't scared to try different things tactically.
The polar opposite of the English/British sides.
I’d be blaming Seaman for both Dutch goals.
Yes but the game was rigged.
@@anthonymcken6050
By who?
I agree. But there was a bit of genius to Bergkamp's second.
Seaman was horrendous in this match - even with his good saves - and I honestly think he was rather poor for England in big matches in general. He seemed to save his worst decisions for the worst possible moments (like his positioning on Bergkamp's goal). That said, the yellow card for Koeman was a farce and he certainly would have been sent off if this match had been played in the age of VAR. Even VAR would have gotten that right without question.
Bergkamp's goal was controlled and put down with his arm and surprise, surprise, the officials didn't see it.
What cost England was the failure to beat Norway twice drew with them at Wembley 1-1 when leading 1-0 and the 2-0 away defeat added the draw with Poland away England drew 3 games whereas Norway and Holland only drew 2
So in other words, they weren’t good enough
How quick and thick is this game lol?
Even the Dutch, known for their cultured football, played like they were on speed.
well well well
Brian Moore best commentator ever
Suprised Waddle and Beardsley werent used throughoutt the early 90s. Germany,Holland etc used some of their veterans....
I remember watching this game, and was amazed at Taylors selection, and unfit Shearer, Carlton Palmer and Tony Dorigo, I think his hand was forced due to suspensions and injures, but please you had the whole Arsenal back four to choose from, and you pick Dorigo!. You have to agree with Taylor that the officiating in the game was terrible, the Ref looked as though he was way out of his depth. However, as a team, you should never rely on the officials to win you a game.
Dorigo is actually under rated - if you’re talking about the Arsenal back four, I’d probably pick Dorigo above Winterburn for left back. He won the ‘92 league with Leeds, and was in the ‘90 world cup squad.
Other selections bu GT are more questionable to me, namely Palmer, Pallister and Sharpe. Even Merson up front, I would have probably preferred Wright or Sheringham.
Dorigo played well in this game, hit the post from a free kick
Graham Taylor’s omission of Steve McManaman, Stuart Pearce, Andy Cole, Graeme Le Saux and Matt Le Tissier was absolutely criminal.
THE WHOLE ARSENAL BACK FOUR
Apparently Pearce was injured for this one which was massive given Overmars was all over Dorigo from the whistle. @@jeannotschumacher1024
Pearce would have been injured, he recently got the captain armband from Platt in the summer of 93
Even worse was picking Carlton Palmer...
No Macca, no party...
1:21:32 Koeman points outside the box as the referee runs past him pointing to the penalty spot. The ref then realises he won't get paid his bonus so turns back and agrees with Koeman.
Quit crying, rijkaard ( the llama) goal in the first half should have stood .
Remember watching this recorded before school 😂 10 yr old ... WOW
Just watching this a day before the Euro 2024 SF....ITV interviewing Platt and Taylor slagging off the ref as he and the celebrating Dutch players just walk past is bizarre! Graham calling R Koeman "the blond fella." Rijkaard in first half was about 5 yards onside so equally terrible call to the non red card.
Pallister was England's best player, Palmer and Lee Sharpe hopeless.
same
Love Platt. Ince was world class
would have made so much sense to usr arsenals back 5. Solid unit
Typical big Ron. Not 10 yards is a booking lol love it. Thanks
what a gean player was letissier one of my favorites from the 90s. England has always had great footballers but I was surprised that he only played 8 times with his team. they were gascoigne, blatt, merson, ince. but letissier should have played much more than class he had
Criminal the way he was constantly overlooked for England, probably the most naturally-gifted English player in the 90s. Flair players have always been and will always be ignored by the FA hierarchy in favour of those who show greater athletic talent.
@@catofong6905 Not forgetting Steve Bruce
@@catofong6905He was accused of being lazy and overweight at times.
@@anthonymcken6050tbf he was
I know, there wouldn't've been a problem had Le Tissier played this one. Graham Taylor totally ignored some of the great players of the time, like Steve Bruce, Chris Waddle & Matt Le Tissier.
Taylor was an awful manager at this level. Shearer was unfit and Merson playing terribly. Taylor should have gone for Hateley and Ian Wright for this game it would have gotten a result, they were both in scintillating form.
RIP sir Trevor you were a true gent and a bit guid at fitba
shut it scotchy
Some excellent free kicks in this match.
All being said about team selection, this England team performed much better two years later. Shame they didn't make it to the USA.
Fortunately the England Euro '96 team was much changed and far better coached than this shower.
I think this was a game that we could have even won let alone drawn, even with those players. Not saying we would've got past the group stage if we had qualified, but (going purely on fifa rankings at the time) we had a much tougher qualification group than we regularly get these days - Norway #3, Dutch #8, and even the Polish were 28th. Turkey was the only turkey. (I Thank You).
Nowadays England's stiffest test in qualification is the footballing powerhouse of Moldova or some such. And we still do our best to make an arse of it.
@@catofong6905 yeah agreed. It was definitely a tough draw and a few decisions in the match really changed the game.
Your English team never achieved anything substantial after 1966😂
@@DeyoutubehutvanoomSietse not my fault! I can’t help being born in a country that’s incapable of winning a trophy for 60 years 😂 - still got to support them!
That really was an awful England side. Carlton Palmer and Lee Sharpe in a 3 man midfield? Carlton always gave 110%, but lacked quality and technical ability at this level. Lee Sharpe, just wasnt all that great (overrated and overhyped at that time), and certainly wasn't a 'worker'.
Lots of long balls and hoofing it forward. Thank god our game in England has massively improved. In terms of skill, technique, and keeping possesion, our players nowadays match other nations.
Most of that team wouldn't get in the current England side. I would only have Adams and Seaman in it. I would exclude Shearer because of Harry Kane and there's only enough room for one in my side.
hahaha what a joke. nowadays english players are frail headless chicken running around. overrated overhyped and just weak. they would die playing strong teams like these.@@michaelmoores2654
Carlton Palmer was about as much use as a handbrake on the Titanic.
Andy Sinton
Seaman’s positioning on the free kick. Shocking!
Most beautiful stadium and mother of all stadiums
Roy was superb. What happened to his career?
Very talented Roy. Injured a lot moved from Ajax to Foggia and Nottingham Forest. Was Coaching at Ajax but nowadays is known for political statements online.
Absolutely. Loved this era for those players sometimes forgotten.
من محاسن التلفزيون السعودي النادرة أنه نقل هذه المباراة التي صاحبها تغطية اعلامية كبيرة وأحاديث مع باقي الطلبة في الثانوية كنا نعرف أن دريغو سيكون أساسي وأن باركر لا خوف عليه وعودة شيرر ستقوي الهجوم
لكن غياب جاسكوين سيكون مشكلة
وزاد الحكم الأمر سوءاً
وداعا جراهام تايلور كم نقدرك من السعودية 🇸🇦
This is incredible. Thank you. Google translate really widens the conversation.
ذكرتني بالزمن الجميل ... فعلا كانت من نوادر التلفزيون السعودي نقل هذه المباراة التاريخيه على الهواء مباشره
Yeeesh. Brian Moore would've saved that free kick
What was seaman doing
To be fair to Holland disallowed goal was onside.
Just not good enough.
Match played on 13th October 1993.
GODS WE WERE SHITE BACK THEN
The Netherlands were clearly the better team.
Weird team. Taylor could've given himself a much better chance this night had he opted to bring back the likes of Chris Waddle and Peter Beardsley. Also McManaman was starting to blossom and probably would've already been worth a cap.
A lot of players let him down on the night, Sharpe and Shearer spring to mind. Unlucky for Merson not to at least score one.
RIP Graham Taylor, truly a lovely man.
Much more open play than modern game.
Dorigo ?
Intel i486 DX2 able to run windows 11?
1:59:42 well said Graham 👏👏
Apakah bosman itu adalah pemain yg dinamakan aturan bosman ?
“Do I not like that!”
only 5 subs???
Dennis Bergkamp, legend.
Carlton Palmer those were the days 😂
Some terrible international players in that england team, is anyone surprised poor Graham Taylor failed? Merson, Sharpe, Palmer, good god.
Bergkamp world class
Lee Sharpe had an awful game… Koeman would have been sent off under VAR. Merson hit the post 2x
Holland had a clear goal disallowed for no reason....
During this era, shud have gone for a 3-2-3-2.....Seamen,.Walker...Adams.Pearce.. Adams n walker can defend set pieces n Walker with his pace ( Palister was slow ) can cover....Then id have Ince n Platt in front protecting them. They can play on the ball so it would have given us extra men in midfield.. Then Merson, Gazza, Waddle.. Behind front two of Beardsley n Le Tissuer. I know Gazza was injured alot so u cud put Merson or le Tissuer in Gazzas position or Right midfield , With The extra spot up front going to Ferdinand , shearer or Wright. You need invention at that level , not Sinton, Palmer, Webb, Sharpe, etc..ughr...THIS team wudnt give the ball away either. Barnes had lost his pace then, so I'd have Stevie Mac as sub AND the Rest of the Arsenal defenders as back up.
Ince booked for charging down a free kick that Wouters done for an England free kick when a red card for keoman was not shown. Bent ref or what ?
Typical.Blame Koeman and the ref while Seaman should have saved both goals
Seaman was overated
@@slider3215and always susceptible to being chipped or lobbed.
Ronaldinho 🤷🏾♂️
@@slider3215He was highly rated by his colleagues for England and Arsenal.
He can't have heard the whistle for the free kick as he was still sorting the wall out.
49:10 1:22:02 1:22:39
Koeman you ****
seasman was poor with 2 goals ,, why take off Merson,,, Taylor was a poor manager ,,,,, oh for Terry Venables ...Ian wright had pace never given a real chance
Taylor was absolutely not a poor manager.
@@Tom85AVFC for England he was
England was not in USA 1994.
Should’ve played the Arsenal back 4
Crazy that only 5 subs sat on the bench
I remember reading in, IIRC, the Washington Post, that American officials were happy England didn't qualify because of fears wrt hooligans.
I forgot that we only needed a draw because of goal difference. If koeman was sent off we would have easily got the draw and gone to the World Cup. Graham Taylor was the most unlucky England manager
49:08 Unlucky?
_Ooh my goodness. He wasn’t offside. I must confess. We had the luck of a flag there, that’s for sure. Why can have no complaints there_ - English TV commentary
@@drfibonacci7570 Yes Taylor had zero luck in the qualifyers. onside goals were given offside every other week back then. Koeman assaulting platt, not getting sent off and scoring 5 minutes later was what saw Holland go to USA instead of England.
@@Ayoung2028
Zero luck? More like zero memory!
1:22:45 _Well, the Dutch were robbed in the first half when Rijkaard goal was disallowed. England robbed of something there._
@@drfibonacci7570 sorry, I thought you knew a bit about Graham Taylor’s reign as England manager but from that comment you clearly don’t, I’ll have to leave the conversation now
@@Ayoung2028 If he had luck in the first half, the amount of luck he had was non-zero. So what you're saying is not correct.
Feel free to leave the conversation though.
Remember Platt 🤸♂️ Koeman💪 Bergkamp 🔫
thanks for upload Shearer was awful sorry but Seaman to blame for both goals
Taylor - spouting nonsense, England applies the laws and no one else knows football like we do. Loser. RIP
A midfield of Palmer and Ince, that's as negative as Southgate.
No bully here
Where was Barnes and walker ?
Barnes injured and Walker never picked again after the horror showing against Norway few games before
@@jonblazeinc so Walker had one very bad game and was never picked after that ?
@kenshiro7960 not one bad game , he had a mare in the Holland game at Wembley and away at Poland too, probably affected by his nightmare move to Sampdoria at the time. But to answer your question I think the Oslo defeat was Walker last ever game for England
@@jonblazeinc damn
Wonder if we qualified if he could have made amends but guess we will never know
Thanks
@@kenshiro7960 tbh it wasn't down to Walkers poor form , damage was done by Taylor's selections as well as bad luck with key injuries. I was a fan of Walker but I doubt we would have qualified for USA 94 even if he played a blinder throughout the qualifications
36:27-36:31 PLATTEY!!
Platt it was a free kick and a red card. Koeman freekick more like a pen!
Dorigo??? Who???
Should’ve been down to 9 in the space of 2mins, one of the all time worst referee performances at the top level.
Seeman is not good enough for nation team
1:21:20 look away now england fans
Sorriest England squad ever lol
Do I not like that!
San Marino next 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love it love it, the childish cry babies. Definitely outside and a dive yellow card usual total bias commentary
Of course it's a sending off ya fanny, a blind fanny at that, or a Jock.
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No le tizzz
Ahhh turnip time.
Don't be a disrespectful twat! at the end of the day, it was up to the players, not him.
Shocking how poor the England team was in those days. Half the players are todays Championship standard.
Which ones?
Who?
YEP
aso778 ARE YOU BLIND
@@PYPN you ruski trol?
1:26:03 this is probably the worst ever positioning of a goalkeeper in the history of football, he’s standing outside of the far post giving koeman a shot at an empty net
As an Arsenal fan, I always felt Seaman was awful at dealing with anything in the air
its only the strange camera perspective in minute 1:26:36 YOU CAN see it that seaman position is ok
@@travisbickle5279no it's not. The fact that he gets nowhere near saving it shows how poor his positioning is. Koeman's shot isn't even in the corner
Was caught off he's line against Ronaldinho too in that semi.
@@adanis0197and in the champion league game that time
Time and time again I hear about the injustice of Koeman not being sent off. But for some reason 48:51 is rarely mentioned...
They still remembered at 1:22:45, after the match amnesia kicked in.
Indeed. If that Rijkaard goal had been given, the Koeman foul wouldn't even have happened.
Remember watching this live, one of the first England games I remember on TV.
1:26:05 Sometimes Seaman's positioning was mind-boggling. Great goalkeeper over the years, one of the true greats, but this is reminiscent of Nayim and Ronaldinho lobbing him from all sorts of positions.
And he wasn't the quickest on his feet either to make up for it.
Agreed. Even at 1:32:42 he's beaten too easily at his near post. Hardly a rocket shot, and a good 20 yards out.
In fairness Koeman's reputation proceeded him and Seaman's form for about 3 years was patchy compared to 91 when he should have been in the running for PFA player of the year.
His positioning was awful though and he was my hero. The wall didn't need to be as big either but ultimately Taylor wasted so much potential in this squad.
Seaman was caught out far too many times in big games
Very overrated in my opinion got caught out in too many big games for both club and country was lucky that he played with a great defence at Arsenal
Incredible sliding doors in this game, no red card (clear red card) for Koeman, goal after 2 minutes, Dorigo hits the post, 2-0 after 3 minutes.
That's true, but the Netherlands was still better. Rijkaard's goal disallowed in the first half.
Bergkamp, Overmars, Koeman, Wouters, Rijkaard, De Boer,.. excellent players
Throughout the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s the Dutch had a stacked squad. Their WC 98 squad was unreal.
Also Euro ‘88 when they won the tournament with Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard and Koeman.
To think Seedorf and Davids were to come at euro 1996
@@anthonymcken6050 Yeah, Gullit, Van Basten, Koeman, Rijkard, Davids, Wouters, Frank & Ronald De Boer, Kieft, Overmars, Wim Jonk,
Who's here 1 day before Euro 2024 final??
It's coming home! (Edited) 2026
@NPCS4051 yeah it's taking its time. Probably stuck on the M20 or something.
@@offkeychris😂😂😂never
I'm here after....
2 weeks after
Bergkamp joined Arsenal later to become teammate with Ian Wright, Adams, Platt , Seaman
Before It He went ( pasa throutgh only) to Inter de Milan together with Roberto Carlos.
Wow! Frank Rijkaard was about 3 miles onside for the disallowed goal... I mean I hate VAR and alot of things about the modern game but you can see why something needed to be done about these awful decisions.
i can't believe how poor quality this match is, so many bad passes. It wasn't until holland got stam/davids/seedorf did they become world class. Now i understand why they weren't fancied at the 94 wc.
Norway took 4 points against England and Netherlands and were rated 2.in the world only after Brazil at this time
Both goals are on Seaman. Its baffling to see a GK on this lvl of competition with such slow reflexes.