How to transform apocalypse fatigue into action on global warming | Per Espen Stoknes
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2017
- The biggest obstacle to dealing with climate disruptions lies between your ears, says psychologist and economist Per Espen Stoknes. He's spent years studying the defenses we use to avoid thinking about the demise of our planet -- and figuring out a new way of talking about global warming that keeps us from shutting down. Step away from the doomsday narratives and learn how to make caring for the earth feel personable, do-able and empowering with this fun, informative talk.
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This talk was really good.
And then I read the goddamn comments.
pernus maybe you should read other things... like Harvard universities Operation Solar Shield... and then you might stop being so disgusted after reading comments that disagree with mainstream bullshit science
Give us a reason/a purpose why granny shod live in a cold house before you subject her to that.
jmuld1 the cold won’t kill granny... lack of recourses WILL
Sapper; Before you subject granny to a cold house do you have a fact that supports AGW.
Per Stoknes' book ''what we think about when we try not to think about Global Warming ' is excellent. Highly recommended
So in others words going around saying "WHERE ALL GONNA DiE" is not helping. Someone tell the media.
Well worth his return flight from Oslo to NYC.
Interesting. This is actually the stages of grief (which is a specific version of the overall stages of learning). Just with pretty different terms. I explain these stages even more simply now with the four elements of fight, flight, freeze, then flow. Supporting people going through these stages in the healthiest, most playful and inspiring, way can indeed be the key to helping us all progress and make good decisions, rather than getting stuck.
Making people understand what they love and would like to protect by taking constructive, meaningful action.
Thank you, I've wondering about that all the time.
Personally I found my way of constructively going forward advertising green energy, CO2 compensation and electric cars, but it's good to hear that this is the only way to get the big solutions like CO2 tax and regulations we are fighting for.
Very good talk. My lecturer recommended this talk. Climate change is so much more than sea levels rising and the melting of ice caps. Ocean acidification and water scarcity are also amongst the dangers, but people are often not aware of the scale of climate change. Putting climate change into policies is also difficult as politicians need still to be popular. An Australian politician one tried to implement a carbon tax and she got eventually fired because nobody wanted that. Its important to put the problem of climate change to a local level as people seem to act better when its directly related.
How is it that you have a lecturer?
Through a college or a school, lecturers are like professors in the UK
That "local level " is coming for all of us.
Some good points. Dr Per Espen Stokes maybe you should take a look at how the replacement of fossil fuel energy for a more "sustainable energy" is suffocating the culture of my country by exhaustive mining practices to provide countries like Norway a postindustrial radical green capitalism mindset that can be "sell" as a solution, it's indeed a reformulated problem. Mitigation of greenhouse gasses emission should not be at the expense of cultural heritage.
Honestly inspiring
He is a real hero of mine!
Also, it's very, very, very clear that nearly all the people who commented here didn't watch the talk at all.
There are many many ways we can slow down climate change through hydro water, bulk up wind farms, increase huge amounts of battery storage, increase small (mini) nuclear energy factories, last but not least bulk up solar farms across the earth, then we can completely disconnect ourselves from burning fossil fuels.
Moses Jonson I'm sorry, but there is no way to run our current way of life on renewables. Check some of numbers. The writer Alice Friedmann who publishes energyskeptic.com is a good source. Resilience.org is decent.
Expect a lower energy future. And take time to reflect on the changes that will entail.
@@brianpoe9144 That's why you need nuclear
@@brianpoe9144 Nuclear is the only reliable energy source we have that does the least amount of harm to the environment.
@@brianpoe9144 one sec is this two people respectfully disagreeing and putting across their arguments in a civilised way...?
Thank you!
The thing about renewables is that the technology is progressing at a much faster rate than coal and oil. The aim for renewables manufacturers should be to outcompete fossil fuels companies so that business owners have no choice but to switch, due to it being either cheaper or more cost-effective.
Very good!
There’s no big apocalypse. Just an endless procession of little ones.
Decode Channel but If the little ones never end wouldn't them become one big one at some point?
Apocalypses don't happen very often. They tend to be separated by tens or even hundreds of millions of years.
12:55 a man falls asleep in the crowd
My professor Stephan Mayer and his colleague Cindy Frantz have worked on this research! Look them up!
just notes:
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He says that individual actions aren't enough, but they can provide support for policies that work. However, the Earth must be cooled, SRM is the only measure that can achieve this, and SRM is under a strict taboo. We need advice on how to remove this taboo, not how to communicate better for policies that will continue the current warming.
The attempt to name those things in a way that they start with the same letter kind of backfired.
Does the production of batteries and other forms of electric storage contribute to the climate change and pollution more than it helps climate change and pollution?
Jack Lanham no
arguing in bad faith: a how-to guide
Most of this is approaching everyone with Sesame Street gloves and perfecting your methods of manipulative honeydicking...
Good intentions but it's not going to be sufficient...
People are going to become aware of your nudging and manipulations, they will become desensitized to that as well and there will be a whiplash rubber-banding effect.
The only way to achieve our goals is through better education and to prevent the stupid from overpopulating the planet... likely it's too late to fix either of those problems everywhere but some places have a chance to recover and survive, avoid the fight to the death of the last can of corn in the grocery store that is the fate of the majority of our population.
come now, doomer.
nudging is not the same as manipulations. it's changing the architecture of choice.
e.g. in some countries you need to opt-in to be an organ donor and in some you opt-out. is this manipulation? i don't think so. the people are aware and can make the decisions they want, but the amount of organ donors in countries with opt.out are way higher.
People are too fixed in the climate change (true/fake) theme, when the contribution Per is offering is the knowledge on how to conduct narratives aimed to generate high engagement. He's drinking on the old learnings of social dilemma (conditions required for successful social movements, i.e. boycotts, protests etc) and current findings of neuroscience applied to business and behavioral economics (behavior change related to decision making in all fields, from personal consumption to public policy campaigns). From the doomsday approach to the inspirational one. From shock and fear to admiration and inner connection.
I mean, i dont get the coments. "We didnt warm the planet so we dont have to fix it". that isnt really a good argument. Ill go to the end to defend that global warming is caused by mankind, but even if it was caused by natural stuff or whatever its undeniable by reserch that the earth is warming and some kind of natural disaster is iminent. We have the tech to help by reducing C02 emissions, which is what is warming the planet (its called greenhouse effect), so we should do it because it will help. Even if we werent the main cause of global warming, we can still help stall it until we find a better solution.
What a noble mind. I myself cannot get past doom resignation. The diabolical consequence of human plaguing is irreversible. Therefor there is no hope for humanity. The time to act was a generation ago. We've lost our chance and all that is left for us is to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.
This Man's explaining too bring it to light is the same for the concern I attempt to share from my channel,, truthful , layman explained , and most all very connected with over 13 months of data , with obvious ecological change as a main reasoning of efforts being applied. look into my work and dream for a moment if what I share works for your mind, read a comment or two & see what others may think of my work. Peace and safety... Ian
The disembodied spirits of the giants(demons)inhabit the mindless masses/Freemasons.TRUTH.
If Al Gore had expressed this narrative.. look at all the years lost
*THORIUM*
He presupposed a lot of things about global warming- not ok!
:/ Sadly his statement aged like regurarely rotated wine ...
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No exact convention somewhere exist grand half cloud.
Global warming huh? 😊
Nope. The problem with climate change is that there is no way we can replace carbon-emitting technologies on a global scale in the next few decades, and after that it will be certainly too late, if it is not too late already now. For many technologies, there is no scalable substitute to the current carbon and fossil fuel dependent ones. For instance, the only way to transport 250+ people (and their luggage) from Tokyo to Paris in about 12 hours at a cost of more or less $1,000 is by the kind of planes we have been flying since the 1960s. There is no alternative to that. There will be no alternative in the foreseeable future. China is largely powered by coal, so is India and many other countries. They cannot switch to alternative energy anytime soon for a long series of reasons. Agriculture is massively depended on oil and it will continue in this way at least for decades. Indeed those who study this problem admit very openly that the energy mix we use today is NOT going to change significantly from now to 2040 or 2050. That is why emissions go up every year, not down. Since the 1997 Kyoto protocol we have seen a massive campaign about climate change, yet annual emissions are now 50% higher than in 1997. This is not the fault of climate change deniers, it is because the current technological civilisation cannot change so quickly, and in any case we do not have valid substitutes for C02 emissions. Whether we convince everybody in Norway or even the whole of the Western world to give up their cars will not make a significant change. The illusion is that we can avoid climate change with no significant diminution of out well being or our economic growth, and without massively reducing the human population. It is not possible and it will not happen. There will be climate change, and it will not be pretty. It is already factored in.
What have made you so certain that it is impossible to replace carbon-emitting technologies (emitters of greenhouse gases)? Lack of price drops? Lack of an increased rate of change regarding replacing old equipment with new?
It's not that we (they) can't, it's that we (they) won't. Because money.
Roberto Orsi Well said! Adapt early to climate induced collapse.
We have about 5 years until or first ice free Arctic summer event: iwantsomeproof.com/extimg/siv_annual_max_loss_and_ice_remaining.png
After which warming will accelerate.
Those of us that understand the gravity of the situation can pivot hard to local self sufficiency. Grow food. Store and preserve food. Go WFPB and break the dependency on industrial agrobusiness. Start building awareness with spouse/friends/family/neighbors now to improve community level survival.
Consider that the price of energy from renewables is likely to decrease faster than fossil fuel prices. Eventually it will be a waste of money to burn fossil fuel. In the long terms, it will most likely be cheaper overall to switch from fossil to non-fossil sources sooner rather than later.
Nikolai Beier I don't think that's a safe assumption to make. We haven't hit peak liquid fuels production yet but it's coming. Moore's law will break down, as will the year over year trend in current generation renewables. Disruptions will occur on the path to a fully renewable energy future. Check out work by Richard Heinberg, Vaclav Smil, and other researchers applying evidence-based predictions to the energy sector.
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so, if I am conservative, I am driving a big car and generally an old-fashioned, pompous, careless person.....who told you this?
I am hurt, I am triggered, I am victimised.... I just want to scream and talk only gibberish now!
Conservatism is, by definition, doing the same things as have traditionally been done. If you drive an electric car you are not conservative in relation to cars.
it is not right that you are victimised, but the point is that you and people like you probably need to change their lifestyle
it is not right that you are victimised, but the point is that you and people like you probably need to change their lifestyle
#wedonotconsent
to what? Dying?
The earth is flat.
DerrenBrown100 And traps aren't gay, water is dry and the sun is racist. What is your point?
Absolute Zero the sun is racist. I like that one haha
The moon is flat too.
There's no such thing as flat-Earthers. They are philosopher-trolls challenging your epistemological assumptions.
So then climate change is a hoax, ahhhh! Phew, I thought those fires were real for a second.
Sustainable development nonsense.
I mean, TOTALLY. We all know that staying still is the best thing that happened to evolution.
in what way? Explain the record highs almost everywhere in the world right now
The globe hasn’t warmed for two decades now. Fearmongering sells though.
You are just repeating lies. Stop.
www.woodfortrees.org/plot/wti/plot/wti/trend
No pause.
The people have heard predictions for 30 yrs and where is the evidence? Just another salesman selling another yatta yatta.
jmuld1 What do you mean where's the evidence? Please pay more attention to current events.
Some thousands of years ago the "current events" showed that the planet was warming. Did stopping the Neanderthals from driving their SUV's help?
I would have been interested in any other type of Apocalypse other than the Climate BS.
wow, great opinion
What you want is Armageddon, what you want is the Bible Grant!
I know right? something real would have been far more interesting...
U Russian Troll
A prime example of the denial barrier mentioned in the video.
Typical propaganda.
Well, I'm an atmospheric scientist. So . . . sure. If you could even define it I would want to be involved.
what do climate activists have to gain if they are lying