terminal heaven
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- feel free to disagree but this is the best rated platformer above hard demon right now and i wouldn't want to have helped with anything else
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title was swapped around because apparently this video didn't show up when searching for "terminal heaven". good engine
![Geometry Dash - 22 Trials of PAIN by sink [Extreme Demon]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AD7kr20eG7g/mqdefault.jpg)
word of advice if you're gonna copy this: make sure to do slope boosts accurately before you do them fast :) hold back, jump, optionally release back first, hold forward
also apparently you're meant to jump over the spike at 1:11 and its hitbox is harder unlike the others to reflect this, didn't know sorry
-yes i will be clearing the abyss i'm just lazy and hate unbalanced gameplay- i did it go look
i also did 22 trials of death but didn't record it because my laptop hates going over 60 despite coming with a 144hz display
The abyss is more balanced and fun than this.
@@javier.f1324 6-2 is the only thing that makes it a top 1 at all
@@ekisacik nah, 6-2 is as hard as the rest of the level, it wasn’t even the part that took me the most time.
@@javier.f1324 there is no first clear video that supports that at all. even the verification jumps 10k to 17k seconds at 6-2, like it's not overly long but it's way way more difficult... either way, i don't hate the map, the atmosphere is pretty great and there was clearly effort put into the gameplay, i just don't want to sit down for the full session sooner than i'm ready cause i'm probably gonna get hard stunned when i'm really far in :p
@@ekisacik i think it probably was because they didn’t practice enough the 2 hard jumps from that section, or maybe those are easier with a controller. To me it took 5k (could have been half of that but was nervous and failed at the end multiple times) when the whole map took me 39k, layer 3 alone took me 10k because of the heart, so i didn’t find 6-2 specially annoying.
this level goes hard as fuck, and i'm nowhere near skilled enough to beat it. seeing so many people dogpile on platformer levels just because they're difficult or they use advanced tech is really frustrating. "this gp isn't fun" bro you have beaten 8 demons, why are you even here
its a shame because if you take a look around in the editor at all the little tweaks to the slopes and killboxes and how the gameplay is structured and everything, with enough experience you understand it's an insanely polished and balanced level, way more than any current extreme. people just aren't ready for it yet. it helps that it's unique (i don't hate mini robot i just wish it weren't literally 80% of the current hardlist)
@@ekisacik im sure that, over time, levels like this will become more normal and respected. the mentality people have towards it is partially because the gamemode itself is so new, and the fact that there's a ton of new players because of the update. i think this level will be one that people look back on fondly in a few years. props to galvatron for being so ahead of everyone else
the worst part is that these players bring down the reputation of these levels while simultaneously elevating levels with tons of objectively awful elements just because they are popular, this has always happened but it's especially bad with platformer demons, it's actuallt uncanny
eh, it's difficult to call elements objectively awful but there's definitely gameplay styles that are already overused when there is such a massive untapped variety still waiting
I must disagree, I would say I'm fairly decent at the game having beaten every platformer except for this and the abyss, I've done speedtek and stuff in a decent amount of time and it's not really hard, however that doesn't mean i like it, I don't like this slope mechanic, it's just a matter of opinion, not skill level. I also don't understand the dislike towards levels with mainly robot usage, I enjoy them very much, probably not going to get sick of them any time soon
Go off king 💯
I definitely agree that there's a really annoying trend of platformer demons getting INSANE hate for absolutely no good reason. There's a weird sense of entitlement in the playerbase regarding even the most basic conventional forms of difficulty (like iwbtg which was just regular needle gameplay and got so many hate threads).
I might have hated on the level on my first practice run, but maybe I'll come to like it when i have time to actually beat it. I'm just not a fan of spamming slope boosts all the time, I'm not a fan of slope physics overall and I'm sure a lot of other people would share my opinion. I'll give this level another try sometime soon.
yeah momentum gameplay and techspam are very hard to get adjusted to, but i'm glad you seem to understand it isn't universally bad gameplay ^^ (my first clear of this map was without using practice mode and it took 6 hours! i was not good at slope boosts!)
@@ekisacik Coming back to this - now it's one of my favourite levels and i have an almost sub 2 time, lmao
@@MrNexis3 Thanks for playing :)
thank you omg. will make good use of this
My first tought when i saw this level was "finally some cool and unique gameplay in an extreme" and then i saw rhe comments...
Got to agree that it’s great TBH; it looks so good and when you get slope jumps down they’re a fun mechanic
Bro i love this level, I will definitely do it these days!
thank you SO MUCH for showing your inputs, now I can actually at least try to figure out if I'm doing anything wrong or the thing is just bugged on 60fps and/or in my game specifically
All physics in 2.2 runs on 240tps regardless of refresh rate. If you're not getting a slope boost it's an input fail ;p
@@ekisacik yeah I know that, but fps related bugs have already been discovered though most are tied to triggers or hitboxes, I have tried every single input combination possible and I just can't get the level of control that this video or galvatron's showcase, it's either extremely precise or something's wrong
and with "level of control" I don't mean "I overshoot the jump and died" or similiar skill issues, I mean that I get affected by momentum when I'm not supposed to, or I eventually get lower and lower jump height even when I know for a fact that I'm chaining boosts correctly
@@rajkanishu i put explicit advice in pinned, but you seem to have actually tried some stuff - i'm interested in what you're finding in regards to momentum, it could be important
@@ekisacik if I remember I'll try to explain in detail later as now I don' have the time, but from what I gathered it seems to be either an issue with input lag on my machine (my hardware isn't the best so it's possible, though it only happens with slopes specifically) or with the slopes mechanics being way more precise than I anticipated, like 2-3 frames levels of precision, though no one of the people who I spoke with who have played and/or beaten the level think this is the case (and neither did I when I was playing speedtek, but that's a different level that might use different settings especially since it came out before the recent patches, so I don't think it's relevant)
glad im not that only one that likes this level. it's such a banger
Might go for this now since I recently beat The Tower XXII, just seems like it’ll take a while to get consistent with slope jumps especially with my lack of platformer skill lmao. Any advice for getting better at them? (I can do them decently consistently but getting accurate horizontal movement while doing them is really hard for me)
Also yes this level is awesome honestly the atmosphere is better than I’ve seen in any other platformer to date. I believe you’re either 1st or 2nd victor too so nice job on that!
you probably have it figured out, focus on doing them accurately first and you'll slowly get more optimal over time. good luck! ^^
who came to this guys yt to see if he beat this legit 😭
Is the chain slopeboosting consistent
yes
hard isn't easy to hate; frustrating and gimmicky gameplay is.
the consequences of slope boosting in the level are a lot more than a gimmick in my opinion, but nevertheless that's sort of the point of the statement: something so obdurate and difficult is easy to react to on that surface level, and perhaps it is correct to...
(that and it's based on a misheard jpegmafia lyric)
I like the slope jumps but this level just overuses them
I wish there were rooms that werent just that, i want to like this level but for me its just too much
still i like the idea of it, i like to see some cube action going on
glad you can see the merit of it :3
as for the "overuse": the way i see it the slope boost is a unit of movement, and the momentum it carries plus the environment "builds" different configurations of movement, and that variety is the important part. notice how some jumps are repeated, then made harder, or changed into a different configuration; it feels the same much of the time, but you definitely learn a lot more than how to just do the tech in this level. i suspect that's part of why a lot of people say they hated learning it but it got fun when they did, some even replaying it afterward
yeah slope jumps are really fun imo, i still absolutely love Speedtek and i even got S rank on it. I just wanna see if Galvatron's next level will use the slope jumps less so it doesnt feel extreme and also introduce more tech too@@ekisacik
@@ideac. i don't think galva has intentions to make more extremes atm
Sorry for the ignorance (I'm an "old" gd player), but could someone explain me what a "slope"/"slope mechanic" is?
@@edoh6381 a slope in geometry dash is one of the handful (but there's only two general shapes) of inclined surface blocks. these blocks have always had different physics than normal surfaces because in standard mode they had to force the player to move faster than normal. in platformer mode (and in 2.2), their physics were revamped a bit, and with the horizontal movement unlocked they were given more aggressive momentum preservation, to give it some unique gameplay. when you try to jump up a slope, you are given a penalty when trying to move in that direction further, until eventually you can't jump at all. jumping on a slope without holding a direction has the same effect. however (and you might hear people call this a bug, but it isn't): jumping away from a slope gives no such penalty. now, it turns out that it's very easy to jump away from a slope, and then turn around to go up the slope, climbing it without a movement penalty. the first rated level to showcase this, speedtek, dubbed this a "slope boost", though i think there might be better names. in terminal heaven, this concept is taken to the extreme: *almost every jump* is a slope boost, and you're forced to understand how doing them faster or slower combines with the fact that slopes retain momentum very well to beat the level.
hey, i think I have the buggy level bc from the third checkpoint onwards the game doesn't let me do what I want and the slope boost doesn't work after I pass the first obstacle, yeah It's a weird thing to explain but do you know anything about it? if instead I do the practice and put the start pos in the individual parts the level works lol
are you on version 5?
@@ekisacik mmh do you mean in the latest version of the game (2.204) ? anyway yes
@@KevinITA115 no i mean the latest version of the level
@@ekisacik what should I do, update the level? I've already done it but it still doesn't work
@@KevinITA115 i have no idea what you're referring to but i know that on the latest version of the level (5) and game (2.204) nothing should be to chance
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60 fps is easier?
shouldn't matter