Did Ned Fulmer's Body Language Give Any Early Warning Signs?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2022
- Footage of Ned Fulmer from the Try Guys and co-worker/employee Alex Herring having physically intimate interactions has been leaked. With Fulmer's brand being built around how much he loves his wife, Ariel Fulmer, the footage shocked many fans. This video is my analysis of Ned during two earlier videos in which he was connected to a polygraph machine and asked uncomfortable questions to see if there were any warning signs earlier on of what was to come.
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I would like to see you analysing the body language of Alex and Ned when they interact with each other onscreen. I think it will be interesting to see how cheaters act around the people they are cheating with when there’s people around
Do we know how long this has been going on?
@@Pandariini. probably from last September, they have been out MANY times together but people didn’t notice cause they thought they were coworkers. Ariel and will already knew about it (although I am not exactly sure from when)
@@Pandariini. a year.
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 it’s fine lmao I guess I am too bored with my life now. But I just gave that information since you said “we don’t know”
@@Pandariini. Ned has been... touchy with other women since at least 2019 from what I've seen the screenshots circulating.
Even if the relationship was consensual, it was inappropriate. The fact that he only calls it consensual rubs me the wrong way.
I feel he words it that way because of the boss subordinate relationship. Even if it is consensual, there is power at play. At the end of the day, even if he didnt actively abuse the power of being her boss, it was still an inappropriate relationship without taking the cheating into consideration. My personal opinion is him saying consensual is him saying "I was not holding my position of power over her for a relationship"
Him saying that is only an attempt at appearing less guilty. That's all.
It's also the fact that he felt compelled to call it a consensual workplace relationship and not an affair like what it really was
He 100% was told to word it that way to cover his ass lol
It’s like he’s trying to reframe it as if people were accusing him of something else first, and actually it’s “better”. No one accused him of s/a, but he knows if he references it he can give himself a small boost of sympathy, or at least pretend to. It is very icky. Or even a “thou protest too much” way, but I do lean to Alex being aware and participating and not pushed into it with our current information.
It’s interesting that all of Eugene’s questions are moral, all of Zack’s questions are about Ned’s arrogant attitude and if he really thinks that he is better than everyone else, and Keith’s questions are about the try guys.
that's a really interesting observation thanks for pointing that out
I mean you’re right but I think it’s not particularly special to ask questions like these in a lie detector test
but yeah it does say a lot about the others and what they care for.
Eugene seems to be a very „morally right“ guy that doesn’t like when others get treated unfairly etc
Zack maybe seems to be very grounded and down to earth, not feeling the need to „be the best“ and be arrogant about it
(or he was just curious 🤷🏼♀️)
and Keith seems to care about the relationship between them and therefore the success and strength of their company
I wonder if Eugene had some suspicions about his character..
@@ashleyhedrick5635 at some point they all knew
@@heyhorinshi I’m sure they did but they didn’t have solid evidence until recently of it. I’m sure when it happened back in December when they got caught alex’s boyfriend let it slide and said just let’s not do it again. They did it again and they had to go through the process of getting rid of him
Since I don’t know who posted the pictures exposing Ned and Alex, I choose to believe it is John, the lie detector operator.
“Oh you think your marriage is better than mine huh? You think you’re a better father? WE’LL JUST SEE ABOUT THAT.”
The rumor is that Alex's ex fiance leaked the pictures
@@Ennaitak leaked them, yes. But he did not take them.
This is SO hilarious 😂 clever
@@BambiBombshellxo I think somebody from the Try Team took them. I don’t think it would be easy to find Will’s phone number unless you were in the circle
@@justme1892 anyone in that work/friend circle could have taken them. It could have been a camera man; a friend of someone's, a judge from a competition. There's such a vast amount of people we truly will never know. I definitely don't think it was one of the try guys themselves, though.
Remember, kids: if someone makes one aspect of themselves their whole personality, stay very alert & questionable.
I saw a video of a couple covering Ned's cheating scandal and the man said that very thing basically: Ladies, be alert that if ANY man is going on about you and appears to make you the center of his life the way Ned did about his wife, he is 100% going to be the cheater.
@@elizabethlovett4318 My mom makes my dad the center of her universe. Same with my dad. They are very much happily in love. They never once cheated in each other. The worse they had ever done was argue but that's normal in any sort of relationship. And they have been happily married for 30 years but been together for a total of 40 years.
There's loving someone wholeheartedly, and then there's putting someone on a pedestal.
If someone praises you without having a lead in, boasts about your successes, and/or dotes on about their feelings for you without prompting...please talk with them, especially if that kind of attention makes you uncomfortable.
Unless they are neuro divergent… it’s a thing
Lol
I’m going to disagree with people and say the signs were not obvious. People are finding moments that “didn’t age well” or show “early signs” of deceit in compilations. However we have no idea when Ned first started cheating, if it was with other people, how often, and if he ever reflected on possible past actions and considered those cheating. Was the outing with Alex the only subconscious moment he felt he had to hide? Most people never knew or even grasped Ned could cheat.
Correct. People are so stupid and pretentious when they go "oh I've had such a bad feeling about him. Uh no you didn't."
I’m one of the people who never thought he could! 😭
Apparently they were caught in dec of last year by Alex's now ex, Matt, who told ned to back off. And ned supposedly admitted to Ariel that he'd been with Alex for almost a yr, when Ariel went to NY to confront him.
i so agree on this
Thing is he didn’t try to hide that’s what makes people think it’s been going on for a while, cus when people start to cheat they hide but the more they don’t get caught the more they open up with it till they just act like a couple with no regard to the fact they are cheating and no remorse for their actual partner
Eugene: “I believe in his love with Ariel.”
Also Eugene: *believes they will get a divorce one day*
Children of divorce or bad marragies usually do but still want to believe in relationships.
@@lizzyrank5405 I think that sums it up nicely
@@lizzyrank5405well thanks for ruining my life 😭
There’s a podcast episode of Ned asking Alex questions about her pending wedding. I would love to watch Logan analyze their interaction (if there’s video) to see how two cheaters feed off each other.
wait really? which podcast ep was that?
Also the episode where the Try Wives take some of the women out in the office to try on wedding dresses. That video wasn't too long ago.
@@mandipandi303 Good luck finding it, that video was deleted
@@LoupGarouForte oh wow. They must’ve just done that today because I swear I just saw it yesterday. The bridesmaid video is still up tho. That’s where Alex talked about her relationship.
@@mandipandi303 I think they deleted that one.
Ariel was ALWAYS too good for him. He's always had a frat boy, man-child kind of vibe to me that I think his I'M MARRIED focus was trying to compensate for. He always seemed to be kind of resentful of being married, at least that's how it read to me. I always assumed it was just awkwardness. Maybe my radar was picking something up all along, idk. Anyway I hope Kwesi takes his spot.
I never thought he would have an affair (especially with a coworker), but Ned was definitely always my least favorite. I think I just don’t like frat guys inherently lol
Yeah I have to agree. Whenever they would do the “drinking” episodes, he always seemed so belligerent.
@@gothicxromantic I disliked Ned for that very reason too. I didn't want to admit it to anyone though because I know how petty it sounds but frat guys have a bad image for a reason. The same reason stereotypes exist: there's some truth in them. And his whole identity in the Try Guys was that he's the married one. Ned was always either obnoxious or boring to me. Somehow, I think Eugene is the least likely to cheat. I'm not sure why. Everyone is capable of cheating no matter what they say though and there are plenty of things that factor into why anyone cheats.
I don't thunk they'll have anyone taking his spot, but I would love Kwesi
he really reminds me of andy bernard from the office even way before the cheating scandal 😂 i dont know ariel so i wont assume anything.
my sister failed her polygraph with the FBI to get a job when they asked about drug use because she's got PTSD around my brother's severe, aggressive, drug addiction her whole life. she explained about our brother in an interview ahead of time, but yeah. would have been nice to have a body analyst there as well.
This is why I think polygraphs are such a joke. It's not even admissible in court, so I don't even know why they bother with them, when they're so unreliable and are feeding off on how the person reacts emotionally. Good liars have been proven to pass with flying colors and innocent people have also bombed. If I ever am approached by cops to take a polygraph, I'd decline, but I'd tell them why and then also say I'd give them my DNA and that my fingerprints are also in my State's database through my professional license and registration.
I think it’s stupid that they even ask people if they’ve tried drugs. A lot of people have and it doesn’t mean they’re going to do as bad job. Makes no sense.
@@s.stevens4520 I think that's because they deal with drug busts, but still, they drug test. I don't understand the polygraph
That polygraph dude is notoriously a fraud, he's known for giving whatever answers the youtuber or influencer wants him to give. So forgive me, but I tend to immediately get turned off from him lol
According to what?
@@khawajh alot of people who have worked with him have confirmed this
Source? Otherwise is only gossip to gossip.
@@dogsfromthecity omg girl, no. Please just use either Google or RUclips and do it yourself.
@@talysha4977 am I just crazy or does basically nobody know about this guy? I thought it was a pretty well established thing.
A thing I've noticed:
"Do you think you ever cheated--"
Ned, glancing at Zach
"In without a recipe?"
Idk it seemed like a panic response
I thought so too!
I was about to comment on this! I’m surprised neither one of them said anything about that moment😂
Anyone got atime stamp?
Here y'all go @ 11:33
He did do a weird long blink and pause I noticed when he said cheated.
It’s so interesting how we never notice the small hints until it is pointed out to us.
Pretty shocking and how interesting human behavior can be.
I think we do notice things subconsciously but our brains dismiss it before we can process it because it doesn't fit what we want to believe, because otherwise we'd be paranoid and suspicious of everyone, reading too much into everything and everyone.
That's why they say hindsight is 20/20 - we're finally processing things we did see before, but our brains just didn't want to acknowledge.
It's called *Confirmation Bias* seeing evidence after the fact or after you've made up your mind about something. The mind is a tricky place.
You never notice because context is key. What can seem like a friendly encounter between coworkers/friends who have been working at the same companies for nearly a decade could also be seen as more than that
The fact that you're covering footage of Ned to look for tells of him cheating while chilling with your wife is irrationally funny to me.
Either he is also trying to convince his wife that he isn’t cheating by watching this with her or they are extremely confident and comfortable in the relationship, pretty sure it’s the latter 😭😂
I mean Ned made his whole personality his wife so it makes sense for observe to include his wife
The way he started the video with "My wife and i used to watch" made me irrationally happy
@@mikeyjoshua1846 I felt like he dropped that in there with great intentionality - Love it so much!
In hindsight, there were definitely signs. Some time ago I started noticing a “vibe shift” with Ned, and for the last year or two I kept finding myself thinking “something’s going on with Ned.” I noticed bouts of excessive frustration/emotional responses that suggested to me some sort of long-term stress, ie “frayed nerves”, times where he seemed stressed, stiff, or uncomfortable when everyone else seemed relaxed, and MANY instances of odd tonal shifts and microexpressions when talking to/about Ariel that kind of gave the impression of hesitance or forced enthusiasm. Once I heard the news and swallowed it, it all sort of added up. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose.
yeah same. Everyone seemed to have gotten more comfortable - Eugene being more open and brave, Zach getting a gigantic confidence boost and showing his personality, Keith being as goofy and real as it gets . And then there's Ned, who seemed nervous and stiff. He showed no growth as the time went by He is the only Try guy whose past videos were more relaxed and confident. It was like he 'disappeared' as a personality...
I had noticed this too and wondered what was going on. Also he and Eugene seemed to be doing separate things and only together for the big projects like without a recipe. Seemed odd
I stopped regularly watching the try guys about last year. There was lots going on in my own life as a contributing factor, but I agree there seemed to be a tonal shift with Ned and that's one of the reasons I didn't keep up watching, and the longer I left it the harder it was to come back
@@amorky8391 I started watching them maybe 3 years ago and wasn't even aware that Eugene and Ned were best friends. It really doesn't look like that on the recent videos
7:16 "I'll kill you right here" from the supposed polygrapher had me about choke on my tea.
Yeah. Lol pretty unprofessional, but funny.
and the “I’ll stab you in the eye” 💀 17:53
You should do a video on the guy performing the test. He is hired by all the celebs to give fake polygraph tests. He just gets paid to give certain answers, he is essentially an actor.
This is a great idea!!!!
you can be a bad liar, and uncomfortable verbally lying to people but still be phenomenal at hiding things with less remorse through other methods of deceit like texts/secret dates like he has.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on how analyzing body language isn’t as accurate with Autistic people. Often our expressions don’t match what we are really feeling - signed an Autistic Adult
As a fellow autistic adult I'm very suspicious of these videos but I also find them sooo interesting. As long as I don't think too much about my own body language, it would drive me a bit batty, having to analyse how I act even more than usual
Yes I totally agree with you! Would love to see that. I would also love to see how they determine other outliners like myself. I have Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) which is a disorder of the autonomic nervous system. So I have low blood pressure and high heart rate. So in questioning situation I would may not have the same tells of breathing normally/heart rate.
@@Flareontoast I do it sometimes based on these videos. It drives me nuts because then I think that maybe I’m just lying to myself about who I am and what I feel. Then I have to remember, it’s different if you’re autistic.
I also agree with this. Not to mention autistic masking or stimming. When we feel uncomfortable or unfamiliar in our environments, anxiety, etc.
@@craftingemily my sister has that same disease. I hope you're doing well
I had a polygraph in a psychology class and I completely passed when l was lying throughout the entire test ! I passed … this Rcmp guy asked if I had a pace maker!😅
this is why you can’t use this in court and shouldn’t really be used as the main basis in finding suspects. im very sus with this whole polygraph thing.
You pulled a George Costanza
I mean, the polygraph is actually just a prop for the interrogator.
"marriages tend to get not as good as they get older" oh my woooooord well he proved that right for himself lol.
I was waiting for you to cover this! This whole situation is so gut-wrenching. He lost everything for nothing. Sending so much love Ariel and her kids. What a nightmare.
He not only lost everything but single handedly destroyed his family. He took everything away from them.
She’s still with him, too 😒
He hasn't lost them yet. He lost his job, yes, but Ariel is still with him. She's known about the cheating for longer than we have though and we don't know what he's told her.
I'm sure she appreciates your meaningless pandering and imaginary love.
She’s clearly not going to leave him. They’re WASPS. It doesn’t matter that he’s been lying to her for (at least) a year… she’s gonna ride it out.
I had a feeling that Ned was hiding something. Making his whole personality of loving his wife was setting red flags (in my point of view). After the huge revelation of him cheating with his employee...I don't know what to believe behind close doors.
I didn't really like him ever because he reminded me of my dad... who was a massive cheat on my mum. don't know why I didn't put two and two together lol
Everyone says this. Easy for you to say it in hindsight.
@@rojeyjo because him reminding you of your dad isn't the same as him cheating. Don't project
@@rojeyjo Just like my dad too...damn..
Like I never put much thought to it/actively ignored it because there was no reason for me to feel that way about him, but something about Ned did always make me uncomfortable and it was part of the reason why I stopped watching them. I'm not going to sit here and say I thought he was cheating because I never did think that, but he has always been a type of person/personality that makes me uncomfortable and so, because of that, despite how much I enjoyed watching the other three interact, I stopped interacting with their content
I would like for Observe to go back to older Try Guys videos that reference Ned's "frat boy" past. It was one of their first videos on their new channel where Zach makes the comment that Ned used to be "slutting it up" before he got married, and Ned is visibly uncomfortable. It is one of the Try Guys Game Time videos. Ned also created a video that was played at his Yale graduation ceremony where he was playing a "character" of a frat boy. Unfortunately, in hindsight, it is becoming clear that he really never fully moved on from that, and maybe after a few years of marriage and kids he began to miss it and go back to that.
Ned's college frat boy at 4:32 ruclips.net/video/YJn6kJcDDTA/видео.html
@@brynbailey7132 Thank you for the timestamp!
My theory is that he was raised in a family that expected perfection in all things. Yale is where he got actual acceptance, so he clung to the fratboy persona college gave gim as his most desired self image. The perfect marriage and perfect wife made him feel restrained like his family did. So he acted out.
Still a total d-bag move, could have sorted it out in therapy.
@@maze2253 I think that's a pretty good theory. Yeah, wish he had tried therapy over what he did choose....but I'm hoping everyone will move on to bigger and better things!
What I find more interesting is the body language of Keith, Zach and Eugene. Each one seems to show some proprietary knowledge about Ned as a co-worker, a supervisor and the husband of Ariel. Not unusual due to their long-time relationship. However my guess is that none of the 3 would allow themselves to actually know about Ned's life. Fairly (or unfairly) The Try Guys monetized their personal lives, their families and their co-workers. That business model may no longer be as marketable. While I hope to hear from Keith, Zach and Eugene on their channel, I think that Ned needs to take an extended break from social media and not jump onto any apology tour as certain individuals have done in the past. I hope Ariel and her children can move on to more stability with family members and close friends.
One scene in particular I'm very curious about is when Kieth mentioned that a great tasting salad was like "cheating on its wife" "it's in everyone's business" where the words he used in Particular while him and Zach just rolled their eyes towards Ned. Ned withdrew with his head down like the red handed mf he is
From the looks of it they are trying to work it out (seen together smiling, both wearing wedding rings, Ariels statement..)
@@littlebird7590 ariel look “wife” off her Instagram profile 🤷♀️
"Have you ever cheated..." *Ned looks very startled and anxious* "... in a without a recipe episode?" *Ned looks very relieved and bites his lip*
As a Try Guys fan since the beginning, I'm still feeling shocked and heartbroken over the news this week, thanks for doing this video. 😥💔
I’ve been a Try Guys fan for years too, and I feel the same way. I can only imagine how Ariel and Alex’s ex-fiancé Will must feel. Ned and Ariel have apparently chosen to try and work it out, but it seems that Alex and Will are over and done with now. The wedding’s off.
@@erinmorticia8990 I will say I feel especially sorry for Ariel just because they have kids together. Even of they weren't going to be together she'd still have to see him if they had partial custody or if she decided he could get seeing rights if she had full custody. Where as Will and Alex have none so he has a clean break but prolly wasted a lot of money of the wedding.
So excited to see Piper today!! But hearing you say “my wife” was jarring after the last few days of only hearing it said sarcastically by people making fun of Ned 💀
Observe showing us what marriage can be vs Ned destroying the image of marriage
Didn't she have a different name or am I crazy?? Lol
@@melty17 they are nonbinary, and go by Piper now ❤️
@@melty17 ruclips.net/video/bqEfERqm1tM/видео.html
Haven't even pressed play but I see a Piper in the thumbnail and that makes us super happy! Hi Piper!! Thank you for doing this one for us, y'all, and super speedy! We appreciate you.
Logan, the way you've adapted to and support Piper and their pronouns is just so encouraging. Y'all really are relationship goals - not because you're perfect, nobody is, but because it's clear you have respect and affection for one another. Love to the fur babies from us!
Same! Always appreciate seeing Piper with their guest appearances! Those dreads are GLORIOUS!!!
Yes! Piper you are too cute. I love when you show up!
yyaaaasss we love piper appearances
is Piper the same partner that Logan had previously? Not been on this channel in ages, and was shocked at Logans hair!
But I am uncertain if this is the same person, like same person but they changed their name, (and apperance I think?) or a different person altogether? I'm really bad at recognising faces I am not very familiar with especially when they look different to what I remember
thanks
I need body language analysis of scenes with Alex & Ned together. We’re there signs that they were closer than they should be
The hot tub full of spaghetti video, ned puts his head on her thigh
I know we're EARLY on this, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the video the other guys released addressing this situation tonight.
Eugene is so clearly fuming. His nonverbal communication is off the charts.
Angry Eugene, distraught Zach and calm-looking Keith
Yes!!!
That’s the first time I’ve noticed Eugene saying ‘zach’ warningly after he asks if Ned thinks his marriage is better than Keith’s
honestly I feel like Ned thinking their relationship is good and showing care for ariel doesn’t really give us much info about his cheating - I think he WAS happy in his marriage he definitely did care about her and I think he just convinced himself along with everyone else that it was a good relationship - I don’t think he didn’t want to be with Ariel and that’s why he would cheat I think he just also wanted to be with Alex or else he probably would’ve just broken up with Ariel - pretty shitty but a lot of cheaters view their relationships as good and like them so that’s why they cheat so they can have other people but don’t have to give up the relationship
Yes! I know people who cheated and this is spot on!
Mmmm so I’m married. Marriage is a whole other level that I didn’t even grasp until we got married. We didn’t think it would change anything and in fact hadn’t actually planned on getting married because “it’s just a piece of paper.” There’s so many other factors that start affecting your relationship that you don’t think about. My husband and I have both cheated on each other in the past, but one thing that never ever was under question was our love and our commitment to each other for life. However, we got married very young and hadn’t worked through our childhood trauma. A lot of my trauma was sex-centered and as a teen and young adult before him I dealt with trauma via sex. He had just been in a relationship where she cheated on him when he was at basic training for the military and he had left because her letters begging him to come home, on top of his childhood stuff. He gave up a dream he had had his whole life for her.
Now we are extremely happy, we’ve worked through our shit, and we have forgiven each other. Our trust is stronger than ever. It took time and healing from things we should have addressed before getting married to get here.
With that said, the hardest part in our relationship was during the pandemic. It force us to face our inner demons and it almost destroyed us. He lost his job so I had to support us both and the financial stress that comes with marriage is wayyy worse than that without that “contract.”
Just because people cheat, doesn’t mean they don’t love and cherish their partner. More than likely, there is shit they need to work through. It’s not an excuse, but that doesn’t mean it can’t explain the behavior.
In Neds case, i don’t think this applies though. Mainly because of the report from other women of him trying to flirt and get with them. I think he may be unhappy, but I don’t think he necessarily wants commitment at all, even with Alex. If he did, now that he’s lost everything, him and his wife wouldn’t be trying to work through things. We will see with time though.
When I first heard of Ned's cheating scandal. I remembered when one of the lie detector questions made Ned reveal some of his marriage may be for appearance. I also recall an episode where some sort of professional they all went to see identified Ned as having 'narcissistic tendencies'. I frequently watch the Try Guys too and while disappointed with Ned, I'm glad he's now out and his absence means little to me as a fan since I liked him least even though I wasn't sure why. On one hand I guess I felt he brought the least to the Try Guy table in terms of identity and mentioning things he deals with and things important to him that needs a louder voice or any attention at all. Zach and Eugene do this a lot. I've realized I disliked Ned, but I never understood why. Not saying I suspected he would be a cheater only that there was something about Ned that seemed off to me compared to the others and I wasn't sure if it was simply him being a bit fake or not. They are a big youtube group, so it seems some fakeness is inevitable.
Fact: It is physically impossible for us NOT to dance through the intro.
Why does it sound like they're broadcasting through styrophome cups connected by a piece string?
It's pretty easy not to dance through the intro for me to be honest: I'm a terrible dancer 😁
I never thought Ned would do this. But that one episode when they were doing the lie detector, his entire personality changed to someone who was being extremely cautious. And I had a feeling he was trying to hide something, but I didn’t know what. Idk. That episode made me uncomfortable with the way he was acting. Never thought he was cheating though, thought maybe it was something else.
You HAVE to do an analysis of the statement video the Try Guys put out! Holy crap, even my extremely limited knowledge of body language could pick up on the anger and disgust and hurt from them!!
I find it super interesting that your agreed with the polygraph. Anytime there is a polygraph on RUclips or on a TV show, it’s always John. He’s done hundreds. He’s also admitted that RUclipsrs often pay him to lie and say what they want to make the video more entertaining.
@@desturner866 Yeah, John pretty much has the attitude of “they’re paying me, so I’ll say whatever they want.” Usually it’s just to add humor. Although the try guys are actors so it makes sense they know how to match their facial expressions to what they’re saying.
I think he did originally have that crazy love for Ariel, but at some point he started developing a relationship with Alex as well. I dont think he ever stopped loving Ariel, he just decided to pursue someone else because it was exciting. Feel terrible for Ariel, she deserves so much better.
So I haven’t watched a lot of RUclips for a while and I was not prepared for the whole Ned cheating scandal. I was also not prepared for Logan with hair. Holy crap, it’s not even 10am.
i think the uncertainty around the question about his college friends was more uncertaintly about whether he SHOULD lie or not considering his TryGuy friends were righht in the room with him lol. so he didnt want to lie but was hesitant about telling them to their face that he likes his other friends better lol
For me, the only clue I had was that it has been a long time since we heard him saying "my wife, my wife." It used to be he would talk about Ariel every video. Not so much as of late.
I completely agree. All of these compilations of him excessively talking about his wife are from years ago
Omg no. This was not a good way to find out ANY OF THIS. I'm currently yelling WHAT at my phone over and over again. How did I just find out now!?!? WHAT ?!?
I'd like to rent a room at the rock you've been living under... Cus it sounds lovely
@@DANIxDANGER Haha to be honest I have fallen off the try guys bandwagon for a while now. Also, since I've calmed down a little - I don't blame myself for not knowing or being able to see the signs, because I honestly never cared about Ned that much to begin with. Of course I didn't see the signs. His quirk of loving his wife too much honestly just seemed like the only thing he COULD do to get more attention compared to the other more interesting guys. I'm still curious about how this is portrayed in the context of body language though.... I'm ready.
Which lovely Island have you been living on the last week XD
@@bananawammabama I haven't watched them in years but it's literally all over social media
What a great week you've must have had 🤣
Is there enough footage to do one w both Ned and Alex? Not only out of curiosity, but I also wanna see if there's surefire ways to tell if cheating can be spotted when the 2 perps are in the same room interacting.
It can only be spotted if the two feel some degree of guilt, which would influence their behavior, body language etc However if they feel no guilt whatsoever, you'll have a had time detecting anything unusual.
I would say there's no sure fire way to see it in any instance, but the warning signs would be fascinating
Like the design a wedding dress video!
There are never surefire ways to notice things like that, but it's definitely possible to notice it depending on the situation, I'd watch a video like that
Even way back, I always thought that ned was the type of person who thought that he could "get away with things", mostly because of his ego. But cheating on Ariel was one thing I didn't think he'd do. I genuinely thought that he loved Ariel as much as he shows on camera. Even though I never took a liking to ned, sometimes even borderline hating him in some of the try guy videos, I genuinely was distraught to find out this happened. I'm wishing Ariel and the kids, as well as Alex's fiancé, that they will be able to recover and hopefully heal from this.
Please do the most recent announcement video they just did. Eugenes body language is very very clear but I think it’d be super interesting for you to touch on!
You can not have a consentual workplace affair when you are THEIR boss.
@Bla Bla Do you know what a power dynamic is?
It makes me so sad that Ned would betray Ariel like this. I think Ariel was pregnant with their 2nd child during the 2nd interview, so that could've been the deception Ned revealed at the beginning of part 2 (many people don't disclose they're expecting a baby until 3 months into a pregnancy in case of they have a miscarriage). I think the biggest problem with Ned's behavior is his affair was with his employee. The power dynamic between he and Alexandria is too wide. Even if their relationship ended up being consensual (according to Ned at least) Alexandria didn't have a resource like an HR department to go to if Ned initially made her feel uncomfortable. That's the part of this situation I think is the worst. Infidelity can be overcome in some relationships, but Ned's behavior is different. Try Guys were right to sever ties with him. There's been a few articles talking about "wife guys" and the incredibly low bar society sets for straight men being good partners to their significant others. Everyone seemed to praise Ned for doing the bare minimum for a husband. It looks like some of that behavior may have been a little disingenuous in hindsight.
Something I noticed when Zack asked the question about "without a recipe" he pauses briefly after the word "cheated" and Ned looks back towards him immediately, waiting for what words were about to come next.
I'm not saying this is "he was panicking because he was *definitely* cheating on his wife at this point" but it's an interesting little moment, there.
Would be interested to see what was happening on the polygraph at that moment. See if there was a sudden spike or not.
No but he Didi panicccc
I mean, maybe there’s a level of thinking his marriage is “better” because he WAS able to participate in extramarital affairs with minimal recoil. Maybe to him, that is what makes it “better”.
This really highlights that Ned has always thought of himself as better than the other try guys and he also doesn´t like them as much as his real friends.
Full of himself. Ego meter are at 💯
Like 2 hours ago I was watching some of your videos thinking, 'Hey I really hope Observe does a body language review of Ned, I wonder how he would go about that.... maybe the lie detector videos.'
You're so quick and on the nose with these videos THANK YOU!!! ❤️🔥🌈🌟💕
I genuinely hate that he framed this as a "consensual workplace relationship" and the social discussions that have been spun from this framing. Now people keep talking about this as 'just cheating', 'cheating with a coworker', and 'they really fired him for cheating on his wife?!'. No - just stop with that BS, already. How have we come so far in history and social awareness on this topic... While evolving so little in social commentary department?
It's not just cheating with another coworker/employee... It was *_HIS employee and subordinate. He was her boss._* I think that's an incredibly vital piece of information for people to stress when discussing this situation. There are massive differences between just having an affair with 'another employee' - and an affair with your subordinate who you have tremendous reign and control over on a daily basis, as their boss. That can't be understated enough.
No matter what the situation or who the person is, it's *entirely* inappropriate, unacceptable, unprofessional, and dangerous for any company/job to not cut ties for situations like this. Even if the other party says the situation was 100% consensual on their end (that's still iffy, legally). We've set this standard for a reason - it's just way too easy for the nuances of coercion and a nonconsensual situation to be ignored, justified, excused, denied and twisted around on to the subordinate. If we allow special exceptions because we want to believe that everything was on the up and up on the superior's part... Then we end up screwing over actual victims in the long run.
No to mention he was HR! This relationship was going on for a year, and he was making multiple PUBLIC OUTINGS with her! Not to mention his family married guy branding, and general branding of the try guys. With their new network show he basically jeopardized all of them!
@Bla Bla ...who called her a victim? What are you even on about?
11:35 I feel like there was a flash of panic at the word “cheated”. I think he was afraid to hear the rest of that question
Can you cover the “call her daddy” interview with Hailey Beiber ? Please
YES!!!!!!!!! Please please please
Love to see you analyse the statement the boys put out today. I’m not a body language expert but the anger radiating off Eugene was palpable. Sad for all those affected by this
PLEASE do a video on the TryGuys statement, I would love for you to break down each of their states. I feel like I can feel it as a regular person so it would be so fascinating to hear what you have to say, and I know you would do it respectfully. Much love to you both❤️
Thank you for getting this posted for us so quickly! Your quality is always so good!
I have always wondered.... I have autism, and I have always gotten in trouble growing up for the expressions on my face absolutely not matching up with my thoughts or words I say during a conversation. How would you read a person like me?
I'm autistic as well and I'm also wondering
A good body language person will consider your "base" (how u act in a normal situation) and compare ur body language relative to that
There was always something about Ned that I didn’t trust or think genuine. I’m not shocked.
THANK YOU I needed this from you so badly!
The fact that he thinks marriages do not get stronger with time I think is really important to consider I think. If I were Ariel and I watched that, that would deeply hurt me and be a major concern to me because... marriages are supposed to be for life.
I know of many older couples I my family, in my community etc whom have admitted out loud to younger couples and family how much stronger their marriages and bond has become through the years, especially after they've been through troubled times and kids etc.
I'm happy he's caught and getting the deserved flack and I hope Alex is gonna get some too, but there's so much "Ned cheating" content everywhere I turn, that I started to dream about it 😔😭💀
Ohh no Alex is totally innocent because of the power imbalance 🙄
Alex ain’t a victim yall
I felt the hesitancy to say he liked his college friends more was because he knew it would be not the popular answer, rather than about it being true. Though could also mean there was some subset of that group he didn’t like as much as the whole, which would make sense.
i was hoping you’d cover this!!
So.. two things. 1) I think the questions were too complex to be answered with simple yes or no, some questions required explanations or clarification in order to answer them truthfully. 2) sometimes people actually believe in their own lies. How would it show in the polygraph in this situation?
If you believe you are being honest, the test shows you're honest.
i'd be excited for you to also analyze the other guys video addressing the whole situation!
I’m very surprised to see no one talking about Piper’s hair in the comments
They are. Lol
I can't believe he thinks he's the most handsome. That's wild. Even after they had a video of them being told scientifically that Eugene is the most handsome. He's a total narcissist.
Logan... Piper... I love yall! I was honestly not expecting a video about the try guys. Thank you for making my day ☺️
There’s another more recent Lie Detector Test video of them with Vanity Fair & a lot of people have been suspicious of his body language in that one as well.
Ok so, I know you'll probably get to it soon, but I just watched the video thee Try Guys released about the situation, and YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I have no knowledge in the subject but having watched your videos for a while now, I feel like there's A LOT to unpack there.
I think it's interesting that as soon as Zack said "Do you think you ever cheated____" before finishing his sentence, Ned glances over. And as soon as Zack finishes the question, he looks calm.
The try guys have posted an update!!
Piper's face 1:55 when Logan says " consensual workplace one" 😂
Perfect late night watch, thank you as always you two!
logan always coming thru with a FIRE vid when we need it ❤ peace and luv to u two!
The Try Guys just posted a response PLEASE look at it, there is a LOT of obvious body language from all 3 of them is emanating from the whole 5 1/2 mins
love the video content but we should maybe not participate in appropriative hair styles… just my two cents. if piper has caucasian hair, this is not protective-it’s damaging; to both your hair and neck.
it’s 2022 we know it’s racially insensitive to wear locs as a white person, and knowing it’s racially insensitive makes me feel yucky to watch the creator. full transparency.
The Try Guys just released a "what happened" video. It's scripted, but their body language is so raw.
His comment that marriages get worse the older the couple gets is VERY telling. If the couple is truly in love, marriages get stronger. But Ned isn't a loyal man so he only gets bored with time and thus strays, I don't know if he's ever been truly in love if the rumours are true that Ned cheated with various women.
What’s interesting is that in both positions we’re not as put in a position where he literally cannot lie without it being them the only questions they offer up to him or about his wife. They had to know. Granted that was his brand but the other guys were not asked about their partners near as much.
Can’t be “consensual” when there are four people involved and only two know about it and consent to it.
I think it's been said about a million times now, but if you make your whole personality about your wife, you're probably trying to compensate for something. He literally has no personality traits other than "my wife". Always rubbed me the wrong way, like he was trying to be perfect. He just didn't seem like a nice person though, especially in one video where they were drunk (I think?) and he was being really mean towards especially Keith. He really showed his true frat boy colours. I remember watching them quite a bit a year or two ago but I stopped because I just don't like Ned lol. Guess I might watch whatever content they put out in the future because at least he's gone now.
Same here, actually. You couldn't have said it better!
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 Probably true, but it's because he lacks personality; and when he does happen to show it, it comes off as rude/frat boy material. :/
@@fairlyenjoyable I never got the chance to show myself. I was kicked before that even happened.
Thank you, Professor!😊 And thank you for being here, Piper: Love it when you guys pair up on both. Hannels!💙💙💙
It's good to see Piper, I hope they are healing well from surgery! Yeah, Ned always seemed...suspicious to me. He was SO obsessed with his wife, it seemed he was overcompensating or something. Like, who are you trying to convince, Ned?
The try guys just posted a video addressing what happened and I'd LOVE to see your take on their nonverbal communication.
Watching these scenes again, made me realise how funny they all are together and that makes me sad
I hope you analyze the "what happened." video the Try Guys released recently. I feel like their body language is so telling to just how hurt they are by Ned's actions!
I had to pause on your intro and just say really quick that it made me think my screen was dirty. I’m half asleep and I have never watched one of your videos before so it got me. Good job lol. I’ll watch the rest now 😂
Glad to see Piper. Please find some terrible reality tv to cover. I always love that.
I think there's a lot missing in terms of context for this video. These guys have personas that they play on camera, certain ways they react are completely according to the persona and not what they would do off camera. For example, Eugene has said before that he used to act certain ways on camera to appear in a certain light because that is how he wanted to be seen.
please do one about their new "what happened" video
😂 this was so fun to watch. I just woke up and this had me smiling and laughing before my morning coffee 😋 you guys were great! Also, I LOVE the intro you have!
I think it would be interesting to look at the video the other three recently put out. You can tell they are all processing quite differently from each other, and it's also a nice way to wrap up the story
Love your channel, and your wife is beautiful.. but do you guys know its incredibly offensive for her to have "locs"?????
I love your aesthetic Piper! Seriously, you are so pretty 😊💕
BTW, I missed a couple months worth of vids and just came back to Logan having hair und thank god I read the description box to know that now its Piper 😁😂 Love you guys ❤
I’m glad you covered this!!
Please please please make this a series 🥺
I hate polygraph tests if I ever have to take one I hope an analyst is in the room too bc I’m so anxious that I bet every question would say I’m lying - I have a fear of them I swear bc like if someone asked me questions that have a lot of stake like say someone says I stole something I didn’t but then they hook me up and ask me if I stole it, even though I didn’t, I would be so nervous about it saying I’m lying when I’m not in this situation that I feel like me overthinking it and getting anxious would set it off - that’s what I don’t understand about them at all
Yeah I'd need a glass of wine before taking one lol
Anxiety doesnt affect the test. What would affect the test is drugs, alcohol, medical conditions and usually the administrator would let the person know if they can take the test or not. But whether you are anxious or not the lie detector would still would read the most accurate answer. You can be the biggest bag of nerves but when a lie is told theres certain changes that naturally happen thats out of our control.
@@ohemdoublegee For the most accurate result you wont be able to have drugs or alcohol in your system that can alter your state of mind.
Well polygraphs test are not scientifically accurate either way, they can never be used as proof.