+Rentta Yeah it's that people don't know how to use it. You have to ajust the revs depending of the surface, and they tell you what to do in the manual. On a rather cold/wet day, it's better to lower the revs a bit, to 2.2k i'd say here.
+RAJohnson713 you dont have to turn off the stability control, you just have to turn off the traction control, DTC comes before DSC, had they just turned off the DTC it would have launched correctly
Because BMW has a special launch system, but not everyone knows how to use it. That's why the wheels spin after a start, they don't use the real launch control.
on most you can't hold them in launch mode for long... so sometimes the light may be on red, then they disengage, then the lights turn green before you can reactivate the system
+Rentta haha well I do not consider what other people think as often as perhaps I could...but in all honesty when the mood is right and the 7 year old within you wants to play, you put the car in LC mode, press the brake, wait for the yellow light. When you see it, mash the throtle and release it a sec later @ 3500. You get catapulted and for a couple of secs you get an adrenalin shot :)
I don't get it why all LC dont engage by just pressing the brake and flooring the throttle. I mean when do you ever do that unless you want to launch quickly...
Indeed, it shouldn't be on all the time, but it should only take one button press, maybe two to turn on launch control - not be akin to launching a nuclear missile like it is in the Mercedes :) .
And please understand the difference between showing us the times the cars got, versus actually seeing how they compare side-by-side down the quarter-mile.
If you drive around in the Porsche in sport plus (like most people will), you only have to put your foot on the brake and plant the throttle. Its quite usable.
I just got back from trying launch control on my golf 7r, and it's great! Takes a sec to engage.. Plus when you're at the lights, you can set traction off and leave it in sport then bam..
My question is, who decides to wait until the light is green to setup launch control. Set it up, time it with the lights and when it turns green go for it, just like staging at a drag strip.
+Djordjeblrs because if its on a red light you dont know when it's going to turn green and if you have it in launch control mode for too long (without launching) it will disengage.
Launching C63 AMG in 5 easy steps: 1. bring along a laptop and ecu controller 2. code the launch control system yourself - all you need is a degree in computer science 3. get out of the car send a piece of the road surface away for analysis 4. tell the people waiting behind you to sod off 5. once results come back, launch the car
If you guys did your research, at least you guys would have known how to engage the proper launch control settings on the M4. After you shift it into 1st gear, at least use the radar cruise control dial to alter the RPM to 2000-2200 RPM. Higher RPMs will engage the smokey burnout function.
I'm genuinely surprised that the C63 had no traction issues with the launch controll engaged. I've read some tests about it and almost every journalist wrote that the AMG lights it's tires with LC exactly like the M4 does in the video. They actually got better 0-60 times with the normal launch instead of using the LC.
BMW's launch controls are always shitty like that. Always lacking the "control" in the launch. Why can't they make it control the wheelspin like Porsche does? They should've named it "show-off mode"
no incorrect. the M4 van use launch control with the traction control on. I've seen it done. not sure why they switch it off here for. it's called a dynamic launch I believe
They not a gimmik, bcz if your approaching lights and someone behind you is gna give u a shot, in a 335d f30 u can pre set it before u reach the lights. Then its just left foot brake and right foot accelerator and gone
In the top gear drag race between McLaren f1 and bugatti veyron , f1 was leading in the beginning of the race , but then we learned that veyron's launch control was turned off to make the race interesting, if It wasn't off veyron would have lead from the beginning, that's how important launch control is.
+Ninad Ganore well if a driver can understand and learn exactly how much horsepower can be used without getting wheelspin then it can be close to matching the acceleration you can get from launch control and the tcs system
+Sartaj Aujla Maybe in an average sports car,but as you go high end the room for human error is huge cuz we can't match the required reaction time.(huge torque,dct and whatnot)
Yea timing is key to speed. Humans are just slow to react and it's more of a trial and error thing where as Computers are programmed to do everything perfectly well most of the time, unless they malfunction
more like burnout control in the m4.... actually to get it right you use the cruise control switch to lower the preset rpms at launch, which would take more time then the merk in that case
If they all started at the same time, this would be the result: (This is what I think) 1st: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS 2nd: BMW M4 3rd: C63 AMG S 4th: VW Polo BlueMotion
Just saying if anyone does this race again, in the BMW you should turn down the rev during the launch using the cruise control. Reduces and in most cases eliminates all wheel spin
+TeK “Th3xRaVeNx” RaVeN Well you should go for the Merc or the 911, cos the bmw will just break down on you after 40k miles. And the vw isn't exactly beautuful is it...... it's ugly, so ugly.
That BMW wheelspin made me do some browsing. 1st you did not specify all the possible steps at launch control (shifting mode needs to be on 3rd level and you have launch RPM to tweak). Something did not go properly because launch control (with wheelspin) should represent fastest possible acceleration and you made more than 1,5s slower time. PS - I am not BMW nuthugger.
Launch control should simply be activated by pushing one button (steering wheel mounted) , mashing the brake, mashing the gas, then lifting the brake. Period.
Why can't the three sports cars all prepare to launch at the same time? Why do the M4 and C63 have to wait for the Porsche, and the C63 have to wait for the M4?
The point of this video is evidently lost on many people. Its here to show how pointlessly complicated it is to access certain car systems. Personally I believe that you should be able to push a button that says "Race" and then engage Launch Control.
I wouldn't quite call them a gimmick - there are times and places where that'd be quite suitable, and possibly much more effective than a human driver. But they do take a moment, a few seconds to engage. And exactly how effective they are is a tiny bit variable. But so is driver skill, especially when you have to race, and you've never done a trial start on this surface before, and you're nervous. And just because the computer is handling it all, doesn't mean it's going to be perfect. Ask Mark Webber.
That is not how you launch a bmw.... you do not turn off the traction control.... you leave dynamic traction control on. it will still show the traction control light on the dash without the tire smoke!
the m3 destroyed its tires. I did the same when i got lent an m4 the first time, its super weird... it doesn't help at all, its more of a 2-step... just holds the revs and the clutch drops automatically really fast. Then its zero TC, unlike other launch controls.
Funny Video. It is worth noting that a BMW driver who knew what he was doing could macro everything (DSC off, proper gearbox setting etc.) to one of the M buttons. You have to hit the button twice to confirm you want a mode with DSC off and then you could go. This would be the procedure: hit M2 button twice, hit brake, hit throttle, choose revs (if necessary), go. Wouldve taken two seconds, maybe 3 tops.
+Wahab .Goldsmith (MrTTBiggestFan) new cars (at least performance cars) don't have auto's but double clutch gearboxes. I know the single clutch automated ones couldn't deal with launch control stresses but I think double clutches are stronger. I know on the 991 911 turbo PDK porsche don't void the warranty on the gearbox for using launch control and I've seen a vid where they did 50 consecutive launches like 1 straight after the other and the car would still do 0-60 in less then 4 seconds and and had no issues
Wahab .Goldsmith maybe it was sub 3, i can't remember off the top off my head but i do remember it didn't lose performance. Point I'm making is that double clutch gearbox can handle more stress or they're designed so the stresses are less then with a stick
In the Porsche if you're already in sports plus mode launching takes no more time than dumping the clutch in a manual. Street racing is stupid but it still has the same real world practicality as the manual.
Im afraid you are wrong about the M4 launch control, i owned many BMW and the new M6 as well, for the launch control, you place the car is M-mode, then pull the shifter into manual, you hold it towards the plus sign for 5 seconds and it will tell you launch control is activated, you have just literally turned the traction control off and thats not the launch control. that is why the M4 is just smoking the entire way.
Whilst I do agree that these systems are very rarely used by the majority of the public/owners, you are forgetting a couple of things here - Who sits at the lights in neutral when in an automatic car? Also, if you are driving enthusiastically, most of the driving modes these guys had to engage will already be on. So in the 'real world' most LC systems just require you to mash the throttle when you are already holding the brake... It's just the Merc that is a bit long winded! 4WD cars with these systems are much more affective - just look at the Porsche in this vid..
PLZ WE NEED FULL DRAG RACE, AND POSSIBLY ADD BRABUS TO IT. AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN EXECUTIVE OR LUXURIOUS CARS LIKE S CLASS (B7), A7 (RS MODEL), 7 SERIES (M SPOT) AND JAGUAR.
+DuckingFuck well it is the best and therefore it's just quite op against the class of a c63 or m4. Just the audir ra5 would have been therefore the better choice though
+VirusTornado Audi fans always trying to fight back against a statement of their cars being boring by talking about an R8, lol. Let's be honest that Audis in general are not as fun as Mercs or BMWs
Or we could have just had a normal drag race, really want to see which car was faster between the Merc n m4.
+Kings mario C63 beats the M4 in a straight drag race, but the M4 beats the C63 around a track.
+Getthis WT how do you know?
+PINGPAZ look at the end stats. C63 - 13 seconds for the quarter and the M4 - 14 seconds
+Kings mario Just look at the standing quarter mile times, they are in the video at the end!
HAHA YES
Launch control is not a gimmick. Who sets up the launch control AFTER the race has started??
Good Point...
😂😂😂
Thank u I was gonna say the same thing
You didnt understood the point of the race🤦🏼♂️
Literally every video on RUclips the M4 is spinning its tires like crazy
+RAJohnson713 There is something wrong with bmw launch control system
+RAJohnson713 Probably it wasn't exactly a launch control. It was BMW's Smokey Burnout Function (no, really, they really called it that way).
+Rentta No that is how it works in the BMW. If u want a clean start u can adjust the revs with the buttons in the steering wheel.
+Rentta Yeah it's that people don't know how to use it. You have to ajust the revs depending of the surface, and they tell you what to do in the manual. On a rather cold/wet day, it's better to lower the revs a bit, to 2.2k i'd say here.
+RAJohnson713 you dont have to turn off the stability control, you just have to turn off the traction control, DTC comes before DSC, had they just turned off the DTC it would have launched correctly
The only thing I concluded from this is that the M4's launch control is about as useful as a blind service dog.
The revs are adjustable but they didn't mention it here, or they don't know how to do it...
Seems no one can launch the M4 without crazy wheelspin and smoke :/
+UzzyFuzzyy you cant when you launch control
+UzzyFuzzyy I knew I'd find you here
+Auto Express But you can select the launch RPM from the steering wheel scroll button..
they just need to put it into dynamic mode. it limits the wheelspin.
Because BMW has a special launch system, but not everyone knows how to use it. That's why the wheels spin after a start, they don't use the real launch control.
they are not a gimmic! if you are at the lights you have at least 5 secs to engage L C. On good road conditions LC is the fastest way of accelerating.
+Ivaylo Petkov and then light turns green in first second and you have people behind honking at you
on most you can't hold them in launch mode for long... so sometimes the light may be on red, then they disengage, then the lights turn green before you can reactivate the system
+Ivaylo Petkov So you are holding pedal to metal in traffic lights... how much of a dork you look....
+Rentta haha well I do not consider what other people think as often as perhaps I could...but in all honesty when the mood is right and the 7 year old within you wants to play, you put the car in LC mode, press the brake, wait for the yellow light. When you see it, mash the throtle and release it a sec later @ 3500. You get catapulted and for a couple of secs you get an adrenalin shot :)
Ivaylo Petkov Do you know what is much cooler... The satisfaction when you manage to launch your car perfect without any system.
Fair point but whats the average time you are waiting at the traffic lights?
maybe we will cover that in our next vid ;)
I don't get it why all LC dont engage by just pressing the brake and flooring the throttle. I mean when do you ever do that unless you want to launch quickly...
+derbigpr500
Donuts I guess
+derbigpr500 Imagine all the car owners using launch control at every red light. Would you really want that?
+IMB2U YES!
Indeed, it shouldn't be on all the time, but it should only take one button press, maybe two to turn on launch control - not be akin to launching a nuclear missile like it is in the Mercedes :) .
And that is how Carlow was born
Dunno about you guys. When i put it in lc. I do it when the lights are red, and go on green no?
+Seren Foxwell it disengages if you're in launch control mode for too long
+Niall Hemmings not really in my friends a45 i used to just hold on the accelerator that did the trick
OK, this is much better done than a lot of your past videos. Real world performance should be the only yardstick.
That C63 color scheme is just beautiful. I want one!
maybe mat and chris can save wats left of top gear
Good job, AutoExpress! What's the music in the end (starting around 3:34) ?
The M4 wants to have fun all the time.. thats why I LOVE IT :D
Very intelligent approach, I thought i was the only one who thought of it that way (crazy lengthy of time to engage LC). Very impressive!
Thumbs down because you didn't do a proper drag race at the end, otherwise, this would have been a fantastic video.
And please understand the difference between showing us the times the cars got, versus actually seeing how they compare side-by-side down the quarter-mile.
+Manuel Carrillo III READ THE VIDEO TITLE MORON ... IT CLEARLY SAYS LAUNCH CONTROL TEST
Because we wait until the light turns green before we engage launch control right?
Haha how how the f did it take that guy 6 seconds to launch in the c63? Jeeeeze
1 litre Polo is a racecar. Confirmed
I think launch control is supposed to be engaged prior to the race starting???
Why does matt look the exact same as carwow's matt
twin brother obviously
Nice test
Did the M4 just engaged burnout mode? Quickest launch from the M4 is 3.7 to 60, 12.0 to 1/4 mile.
+NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 Yeah but the surface was a bit wet, so none of the cars had a 'great' start to be honest.
That's why I posted some dry acceleration time.
C63 0-60 quickest is 4.0 to 60 12.2 to 1/4 mile.
NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 I know what you posted dude.I would personally take the C63, it's serves the purpose of being a fast ROAD CAR.
VirusTornado C63 is fast but I take M4 of being faster.
NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 faster doesn't always mean better.
why didnt you guys use the rev setting function on the M4? That prevents wheelspin.
What's the point of launch control if the rears spin out (M4)? Isn't the idea to get the fastest start?
fantastic idea, and a well executed video. cheers mate.
If you drive around in the Porsche in sport plus (like most people will), you only have to put your foot on the brake and plant the throttle. Its quite usable.
Was that M4 in maximum attack mode? I think you can use the cruise control button to lower the revs so it's not quite so brutal.
Mat is on the wrong side!
Just curious.. how would an R35 perform in this test
Good point but can you race the super estate cars
yes I agree with you.turning off the launch control is difficult and take long time.one second is gold when you want start a drag race
I just got back from trying launch control on my golf 7r, and it's great! Takes a sec to engage.. Plus when you're at the lights, you can set traction off and leave it in sport then bam..
how did he move off in the golf with out getting wheel spin??
My question is, who decides to wait until the light is green to setup launch control. Set it up, time it with the lights and when it turns green go for it, just like staging at a drag strip.
Why would you wait for green light to engage launch control?
+Djordjeblrs because if its on a red light you dont know when it's going to turn green and if you have it in launch control mode for too long (without launching) it will disengage.
Launching C63 AMG in 5 easy steps:
1. bring along a laptop and ecu controller
2. code the launch control system yourself - all you need is a degree in computer science
3. get out of the car send a piece of the road surface away for analysis
4. tell the people waiting behind you to sod off
5. once results come back, launch the car
If you guys did your research, at least you guys would have known how to engage the proper launch control settings on the M4. After you shift it into 1st gear, at least use the radar cruise control dial to alter the RPM to 2000-2200 RPM. Higher RPMs will engage the smokey burnout function.
I'm genuinely surprised that the C63 had no traction issues with the launch controll engaged. I've read some tests about it and almost every journalist wrote that the AMG lights it's tires with LC exactly like the M4 does in the video. They actually got better 0-60 times with the normal launch instead of using the LC.
What's the name of the song from the end of the video?
BMW's launch controls are always shitty like that. Always lacking the "control" in the launch. Why can't they make it control the wheelspin like Porsche does? They should've named it "show-off mode"
***** please find where my fucks are
+Test One BMW shoud change the name of the Launch control to Burnout.
+Ivan Delos Santos true dat. In tg jc managed to launch m5 much faster without tc
no incorrect. the M4 van use launch control with the traction control on. I've seen it done. not sure why they switch it off here for. it's called a dynamic launch I believe
sab0nes Well, I've never seen a BMW M car do that with TC on. This is the same even for the previous gen M cars (E90 and E60).
Does anyone know the title of the song at the end? Thanks!
one thing to say
the M4 brake pedal though
y is it small
They not a gimmik, bcz if your approaching lights and someone behind you is gna give u a shot, in a 335d f30 u can pre set it before u reach the lights. Then its just left foot brake and right foot accelerator and gone
In the top gear drag race between McLaren f1 and bugatti veyron , f1 was leading in the beginning of the race , but then we learned that veyron's launch control was turned off to make the race interesting, if It wasn't off veyron would have lead from the beginning, that's how important launch control is.
+Ninad Ganore well if a driver can understand and learn exactly how much horsepower can be used without getting wheelspin then it can be close to matching the acceleration you can get from launch control and the tcs system
+Sartaj Aujla Maybe in an average sports car,but as you go high end the room for human error is huge cuz we can't match the required reaction time.(huge torque,dct and whatnot)
Yea timing is key to speed. Humans are just slow to react and it's more of a trial and error thing where as Computers are programmed to do everything perfectly well most of the time, unless they malfunction
WTF why does the M4 have a launch system that smokes the tires?
u can adjust the revs to reduce wheel spin
.. obviously they did not do it in this video. but its an M car there has to be wheel spin
Vw polo in this video ???
Outro song?
more like burnout control in the m4.... actually to get it right you use the cruise control switch to lower the preset rpms at launch, which would take more time then the merk in that case
nice competition
No ATS-V?
If they all started at the same time, this would be the result: (This is what I think)
1st: Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS
2nd: BMW M4
3rd: C63 AMG S
4th: VW Polo BlueMotion
The C63 would have eaten the BMW if the drag strip is longer.
Could someone tell me what the music at the end was please?
Darude - Sandstorm
+Anders Gammelsrød hummm. thanks but no thanks.
great video
Idea for a next vid : Dragrace with the same cars, but without using launch control. Like someone would in real life.
Just saying if anyone does this race again, in the BMW you should turn down the rev during the launch using the cruise control. Reduces and in most cases eliminates all wheel spin
Hahaha you just made my Sunday a bit more fun :)
something Quattro driven would have captured a certain victory!
+Audiwan Kenobi the rs4
Great test! :D
Sheesh I wish I had the money to own one of these beautiful machines 😫😩
+TeK “Th3xRaVeNx” RaVeN well the polo is cheap...
+Rafael Domenikos "cheap"... not really... >10k€... I've got a 1k€ golf 3, that's cheap.
+Rafael Domenikos that polo is expensive for what it is
For a polo which is not really good looking, not really comfortable, not fast, not well equipped, that is expensive.
+TeK “Th3xRaVeNx” RaVeN Well you should go for the Merc or the 911, cos the bmw will just break down on you after 40k miles.
And the vw isn't exactly beautuful is it...... it's ugly, so ugly.
That BMW wheelspin made me do some browsing. 1st you did not specify all the possible steps at launch control (shifting mode needs to be on 3rd level and you have launch RPM to tweak). Something did not go properly because launch control (with wheelspin) should represent fastest possible acceleration and you made more than 1,5s slower time. PS - I am not BMW nuthugger.
great comparison, I liked it...
do you have something personal with MB, what kind of drag races is this ?!
HAHA NICE, you guys should do another video just showing the drag times!
Launch control should simply be activated by pushing one button (steering wheel mounted) , mashing the brake, mashing the gas, then lifting the brake. Period.
Thank you for letting know my 6MT ///M4 will probably the fastest in your test!
4 minutes of my life I'll never get back....
Man, although it was not a proper dragrace, i totally loved it :D
Ok, in a real world wainting for the trafic lights we have time to activate the launch control!
Why would you put a c4? Use a c2
What this is?
Given how cumbersome the Mercedes' launch control system is to engage, i'm surprised it ever got going :) .
3:11 Vw?
Stop lights usually take more than ten seconds to turn green.
Why can't the three sports cars all prepare to launch at the same time? Why do the M4 and C63 have to wait for the Porsche, and the C63 have to wait for the M4?
I will love to see if you add GTR into the race
+Jacky Chng its not in the same price range nor the same class so i would guess no but it might be fun to see it
The point of this video is evidently lost on many people. Its here to show how pointlessly complicated it is to access certain car systems.
Personally I believe that you should be able to push a button that says "Race" and then engage Launch Control.
That's exactly how it work in the Porsche. The button is called Sport Plus.
Stupid test. Just show the real drag race...
Why can't you just engage launch control with one button? Why is it always an overly complex procedure?
Polo Killed it in acceleration and Price point
Polo ultimate DRAG RACE MACHINE! :D
The guy in the C63 looked absolutely disgusted by the more complex launch control system LOL.
What about nissan gtr?
I wouldn't quite call them a gimmick - there are times and places where that'd be quite suitable, and possibly much more effective than a human driver. But they do take a moment, a few seconds to engage. And exactly how effective they are is a tiny bit variable. But so is driver skill, especially when you have to race, and you've never done a trial start on this surface before, and you're nervous. And just because the computer is handling it all, doesn't mean it's going to be perfect. Ask Mark Webber.
That is not how you launch a bmw.... you do not turn off the traction control.... you leave dynamic traction control on. it will still show the traction control light on the dash without the tire smoke!
Reminds of Top Gear's Ferrari vs Skoda Yeti
That mercedes i want to buy it
the m3 destroyed its tires. I did the same when i got lent an m4 the first time, its super weird... it doesn't help at all, its more of a 2-step... just holds the revs and the clutch drops automatically really fast. Then its zero TC, unlike other launch controls.
Funny Video. It is worth noting that a BMW driver who knew what he was doing could macro everything (DSC off, proper gearbox setting etc.) to one of the M buttons. You have to hit the button twice to confirm you want a mode with DSC off and then you could go. This would be the procedure: hit M2 button twice, hit brake, hit throttle, choose revs (if necessary), go. Wouldve taken two seconds, maybe 3 tops.
my neighbour owns an m3 (4). he sais that he NEVER uses launch control beacause it tries to kill him
+wolimSe Not if your on automatic?
+Wahab .Goldsmith (MrTTBiggestFan) new cars (at least performance cars) don't have auto's but double clutch gearboxes. I know the single clutch automated ones couldn't deal with launch control stresses but I think double clutches are stronger. I know on the 991 911 turbo PDK porsche don't void the warranty on the gearbox for using launch control and I've seen a vid where they did 50 consecutive launches like 1 straight after the other and the car would still do 0-60 in less then 4 seconds and and had no issues
0-60 in the Porsche turbo is 2.9 seconds or 3 the turbo s is 2.6 so the fact that it had low expectations make me wonder.
Wahab .Goldsmith maybe it was sub 3, i can't remember off the top off my head but i do remember it didn't lose performance.
Point I'm making is that double clutch gearbox can handle more stress or they're designed so the stresses are less then with a stick
Mizan215 3.5 :D
Aventador SV ? =P
Excellent video! Glad to showed how annoying and silly the electronic assistance for modern sports cars can be.
In the Porsche if you're already in sports plus mode launching takes no more time than dumping the clutch in a manual. Street racing is stupid but it still has the same real world practicality as the manual.
Im afraid you are wrong about the M4 launch control, i owned many BMW and the new M6 as well, for the launch control, you place the car is M-mode, then pull the shifter into manual, you hold it towards the plus sign for 5 seconds and it will tell you launch control is activated, you have just literally turned the traction control off and thats not the launch control. that is why the M4 is just smoking the entire way.
Whilst I do agree that these systems are very rarely used by the majority of the public/owners, you are forgetting a couple of things here - Who sits at the lights in neutral when in an automatic car? Also, if you are driving enthusiastically, most of the driving modes these guys had to engage will already be on. So in the 'real world' most LC systems just require you to mash the throttle when you are already holding the brake... It's just the Merc that is a bit long winded!
4WD cars with these systems are much more affective - just look at the Porsche in this vid..
why not include gtr?
I was thinking the same.
PLZ WE NEED FULL DRAG RACE, AND POSSIBLY ADD BRABUS TO IT. AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN EXECUTIVE OR LUXURIOUS CARS LIKE S CLASS (B7), A7 (RS MODEL), 7 SERIES (M SPOT) AND JAGUAR.
The audi rs5 would have been a better choice instead the porsche 911
+hans peter BUT PORSCHE BRO.
+hans peter yikes lol take the benz or the m4, the porsche is the best car there...
+DuckingFuck well it is the best and therefore it's just quite op against the class of a c63 or m4. Just the audir ra5 would have been therefore the better choice though
***** Well technically the Audi R8 is an Audi. I don't think a 600HP Lamborghini in an Audi shell is boring, do you?
+VirusTornado Audi fans always trying to fight back against a statement of their cars being boring by talking about an R8, lol. Let's be honest that Audis in general are not as fun as Mercs or BMWs
The Porsche would have taken that race hands down without even braking a sweat.