@@Mexican20067 I still watch this channel a lot, but you can see that the success has kind of gone to James's head. But hey, it's his channel. He can do what ever he wants.
Hot Fuzz is basically Scream but set in the cop's view points. However The World's End has nothing horrifying about it despite the fact that if you replace the blue blood with red it'd be more gory than Evil Dead 2.
I remember my sister taking me to see Hot Fuzz in the cinema when I was 12, and I found some of the kills quite scary. I know it's an action thriller and not a horror movie, but those jump scares spooked me when I didn't expect them!
When people say The World's end isn't a horror I kinda wonder what their criteria is. Its a movie about body snatching aliens that copy people and then puree them. And a large part of the movie is the main cast being whittled away while they realize the entire town has been turned. The only reason it had a positive end is because its a horror comedy(which is the same reason SotD had a semi positive end). I think people just discount it because it's the weakest of the trilogy(but still my favorite).
if he doesn't want to cover them it's not a big issue, but i would argue there are quite a few horror elements to each film even if they aren't overtly horror films
I agree. You could argue Aliens is a sci-fi action and not include it in a horror list if you really wanted to. But it's horror enough. Hot Fuzz has a ton of slasher elements in it. And The Worlds End is a body snatchers type of movie. Definitely still horror in my book. Just not as overtly horror as Shaun of the Dead.
@@BrokenGodEnt Slasher elements don't really make a movie horror, though. People can be picked off one by one in gnarly ways in mysteries too, but they're not considered horror. The only element that qualifies Hot Fuzz is the placement of a cult, but that's just a small aspect in order to make it a "Horror" comedy. (Haven't seen World's End so can't really comment on that) I wouldn't even consider Shaun of the Dead horror either, to be honest, but at least it has zombies, I guess. I think the biggest problem is that "horror comedy", while having the word in it, simply lacks the elements to actually qualify for the genre (although I presume takes this on a movie-by-movie basis). It makes references that one would typically consider part of the genre, but outside of that it's just a "coat of paint" to make it appear that way and doesn't really hold elements you'd typically find in horror The Cornetto Trilogy and Zombieland both fall under this. Outside of that, it's all just comedy. Aliens does have blatant horror elements in it, however. There is fear, dread, and "hold your breath" moments of suspense, hopeless moments and there is a "big bad" (well, "baddies") that are extremely traditional to the genre as well. These definitely fall under horror or thriller than they do Sci-fi or Action. (and of course I wouldn't consider Aliens a thriller outside of those attributes) Sci-Fi can be horror, and Aliens does that well. I'd argue even Jurassic Park has more obvious horror elements than the Cornetto trilogy does. Now, Mortal Kombat... there are definitely arguments to be made against that... but I think certain exceptions are fine, so long as it is stated as such.
The worlds end is much more horrifying to me than shaun of the dead, I get because of aliens it has to be counted as sci-fi but at the very least there’s psychological horror in most every scene until about halfway-3/4 through the film
I’m just imagining James in a saw trap: “Hello James. You have denied requests to kill count certain movies despite the fact that they contain horror themes, leaving your fans sad, annoyed, and even angry. But today you get to solve that. You’ll notice 2 buttons, one to your left and one to your right. If you press the one on the left you’ll have to every fan request that you have ignored, all but one… These include films such as Infinity War and the other 2/3s of the cornetto trilogy. If you press the one of the right, you’ll have to kill count Thankskilling 3. You have a minute to decide before a poisonous gas comes into the room and kill you, Make your decision…”
Honestly I'd consider world's end to be cosmic horror as (spoilers) An entire town was replaced by blanks who are essentially body snatchers and the movie ends with the world pretty much ending
What happens in the story doesn't technically make it horror, it's the feelings the story intends to invoke that makes it horror. If it intentionally lacks dread, suspense, fear, anxiety, [and several other emotions that would be too long to list], it doesn't really fall under horror. The reason classic horror such as Edgar Allen Poe are considered as such is because of the affect the creator intended to have on the viewer (whether it successfully invokes these feels is on a person-to-person basis, of course... that's why shitty movies like Slenderman are technically considered horror despite not being scary in the slightest). In this case, if the comedy is too strong and it alleviates those feelings purposefully it wouldn't technically be considered as such. I think that premise definitely sounds like it would be horror, but I haven't seen the movie to see how they actually execute it and lean far into comedy or actual horror. Hot Fuzz, however, people are murdered by a silly cult but there's really nothing of horror there other than "cult". The whole thing leans on comedy and gore, which don't really make something horror. Shaun of the Dead is the same way. There are zombies, but it's not intended to actually be scary. This is more or less how "Horror Comedy" tends to work in general.
I feel like you could do them by bending the rules a wee bit. Hot Fuzz: a dangerous murderous cult is silencing those who go against them and are brought down by two unlikely friends drawn together by circumstance. The Worlds End: An old group of “friends” reunite to go on a glorious adventure to find that things are not as they are seen, the town has been taken over by an overlord controlling body snatchers.
@@UserHasDied i havent seen hot fuzz but from the clips i have seen it seems more actiony then horror and i dont think james would cover an actiony movie, but i might be wrong who knows
James, you have to cover the other films. Hott Fuzz has gruesome death scenes, and World's End has friggin Aliens in it. Either do it, or we will make you cover Thankskilling 3!
@@imisstheolddays3732 that’s true actually, but like he might count the village because it’s more countable and we won’t have a kill count of about 7 billion 😂
Ok, even if Hot Fuzz is a cop movie, The World's End has a ton of horror scenes, come on! That movie definitively qualifies for a kill count. If Jurassic Park made it...
Hot Fuzz is almost a slasher film, we have a hooded maniac murdering people with sharp weapons in gruesome ways so idk why it isn't suitable for the kill count.
@@TheGreatestDarn That doesn't make it horror, though. . This happens in mysteries too and they simply are not horror. There's no suspense, dread, or worldbuilding that really makes Hot Fuzz horror at all outside of the cult, and even that feels more like an excuse to put it into the horror genre. Shaun of the Dead is the same way with zombies, and so is "Horror Comedy" in general (Zombie Land, Tucker and Dale, The Spree, Psycho Goreman, etc.) Not saying some of those aren't great movies, but gore =/= horror. They're just comedies with a very thin coat of "something from other horror media". That said, James is known for putting horror comedies into his Kill Counts, so not entirely sure why Hot Fuzz and doesn't fit in (not seen The World's End.)
Funny thing is that Hot Fuzz is considered a horror film by a lot of people. Hell, I saw a screen rant article that put it on a list (can’t remember the exact list) that were ranking horror films. He definitely could get away with it being a horror film and he would get a lot of views (I’d argue that it would end up being one of his most popular videos). It is up to him though as he is clearly very busy with other projects.
But it’s not a horror film whatsoever. From the outside, if you love to spoil by saying there’s a cult, then sure, but there’s nothing scary, suspenseful, etc. about this comedy.
Year 2080. All horrors' list is ended, including Shark Exorcist. James: "As I still refuse to make 'Thankskilling 3' kill count next week we will do all 'Power Rangers' defeat count"
The only creator i know to tell his fans to "buggar off, its my show" when fans suggest or want something and get little to no backlash and tons of understanding
James is cool. These videos take a ton of work for him and his team to make and I can understand why he has rules in place for stuff like this. If he did Hot Fuzz or John Wick, suddenly the channel stop being horror-based and it becomes something more general and you get idiots in the comment section writing stuff like "Fast & Furious franchise kill count!!!".
I think at the end of the day, James isn't doing those movies because he's not passionate about them. While Jurassic Park and Mortal Kombat aren't strictly horror, the franchises are very personal to him, and so he does a kill count of them to share his passion for something not strictly horror, while also spicing up his channel with different content. I hear everyone's arguments about how these movies could "technically be horror" but he only seems to be comfortable doing those horror adjacent movies because he's passionate about them. Hell, even the Tammy and the T Rex movie was about a killer dinosaur (a concept he loves because of JP). Why cover these movies with a dash of horror in them if he himself doesn't love them enough to overlook their "horror adjacent" status? If he does just anything with horror elements in them, then kill counts like MK become less special, to him and the audience, and it opens the door to cover anything relatively horror (like The Watch or anything similar) (This was needlessly long-winded and won't change any minds, but I wanted to say something)
and he covered upgrade because its body horror adjacent also he has some movies in his blu ray collection that could be considered horror adjacent like the unbreakable series, battle royale, greta, and stay (2005). and also maybe spontaneous
Tbh hot fuzz and worlds end both have horror elements. The scene where Simon peg meets the towns cult and all the kills are very horror like. Worlds end isn’t to different from predator in a horror sense.
I keep throwing around an idea in my head to make a James approved spin off of the kill count for action movies so people can stop asking James to kill count films that don't fit into horror/horror-adjacent
There are horror elements in Hot Fuzz and Worlds End. Like the spooky cult murder mystery or the synths taking over the world. If the Jurassic movies got a kill count, these two aren’t so far fetched of an idea.
This is the first time I’ll ever have to call bullshit on James.Hotfuzz straight up has a slasher who done it and made fun of some horror tropes like other movies he’s done on the kill count while The World’s End has some horror elements,at least more than goddamn mortal kombat.Plus he’s done action comedy sci-fi’s before with the predator franchise and technically Cabin in the Woods has some sci-fi and action elements.
As much as I'd like James, Zoran, or Chelsea to cover Hot Fuzz or The World's End, 1) I respect their decision to not cover them. It's their show and if they don't wanna cover it, then I don't think they should be forced to. 2) The World's End might not be super interesting of a Kill Count. I love the movie, but most of the kills occur off-screen or not even in the movie itself. Even the with the ending, I'm not really sure how many folks get axed off. Most of it would be done through guess work without much concrete evidence. At least Dude Bro Massacre III was kind enough to show the killer prank in action and give us a concrete number to work with.
I mean to be fair I get where he is coming from, but at this point he should just drop this "only horror/horror adjacent movies" rule, because he already covered a lot of movies that are neither of those two categories.
Yeah Hot Fuzz is really horrific when you think about it, i mean it literally includes a cult that brutally kills people that don't conform to their view of perfection. The World's End features Aliens that act as drones that kill Humans for their overlords. Plus, the inconsistency of chosen films can't be ignored James.
@@maylabrown4584 Is it irrelevant? It's his show, he chooses what he covers. He chose not to cover Hot Fuzz or World's End so they're not gonna be on the Kill Count.
I won't lie, I'd love to see a KC of Hot Fuzz. I know it's an action comedy movie but it had a secret murder cult that ran the town and that lends itself to being if not a horror comedy, a thriller comedy.
if James ditches the thanksgiving theme for those kill counts and just says “fuck it” and chooses non festive movies instead of doing thankskilling 3 then top of my list would honestly be Hot Fuzz and From Dusk Til Dawn 😂
Tbh, both movies are as much action comedy and scifi comedy as they're also horror. Like, Hot Fuzz is an entire murder mystery with some really gnarly deaths, while World's End is basiaclly Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Hot fuzz’s murder scenes are shot like horror slashers and the worlds end fits in alien apocalyptic horror films… I’m just trying to make a case for those films
Personally, I see a slight horror tinge in Hot Fuzz and The World's End, with the serial killer in the former and the alien takeover in the latter. Also, Hot Fuzz has some really interesting kills, just saying...
To be fair, Hot Fuzz only has like three people die. The whole point was that the police try to not kill anyone. The World's End though, definitely worth it, and it may be comedy and sci fi but that shit's scary.
Not 3. 6 people died in Hot Fuzz. At least if you only count the on screen deaths. There is a scene where Nicholas finds like 7 dead bodies. Which would make it about 13 kills.
@@iamthewell I made a guess, but my guess was way under, I only remembered three murder victims Nicholas was investigating. The bad actor, The speeding guy, and then the journalist whose death is etched into my head. Well shucks you've made me realize I need to watch the movie again.
@@18Themega I actually commented a kill count on this post, as if James would present it. With the names and time stamps, golden chainsaw etc. But i don't really like to spam so i'm gonna let you know here. You had the romeo and juliet couple, the rich dude, the journalist, the florist (the women who "fell" into her own shears) and the guy at the end at the police station. So yeah 6. After Nicholas discovered the cult he saw dead bodies, but sometimes James doesn't count those, and sometimes he does. Hmmm...? Then again, James did "kill" counts for less. Like don't breathe, which had only 3 death.
I would agree on the kill count episodes of Hot Fuzz and The World's End, however with a twist to the format, in hot fuzz we do get the kills however we also get some pretty cool non lethal moments in the movie so two lists could be done and then finally for worlds end, rather than a "kill count" it's a "Conversion Count" as the humans got converted into androids so..
He says he won't do it, but all we gotta do is wait until he runs out of Thanksgiving movies to cover. I guarantee you he'll do World's End or Hot Fuzz before he does Thankskilling 3.
Ngl, I found The World's End is more horror-like than Shaun Of The Dead, the way the robots slowly pick off and assimilate the core cast as they hopelessly try to fight back and escape
Hot Fuzz had a little bit of everything. It had a bit of slasher to it, yes mostly action and comedy, but it also (if you want to push it which I do) had a tiny bit of Kaiju in there too
Kinda weird that tbh. Cuz though Shaun of the dead directly riffs horror films, Hot Fuzz still has very noticeable crime/slasher horror elements aswell as The Worlds end having a lot of sci-fi horror elements
100% do what you want on your own show. But I do wish you’d do more kill counts for non horror. Something like suicide squad 2 (I’m not saying cover it because it’s not the best movie. but it does have some good kills) and movies like it in terms of kills would be cool to watch
@@maneater3795 Indeed. It's kind of hypocritical. I enjoy his content but if it's not a horror movie, then he shouldn't review. His argument that films with "horror elements" like Jurassic Park is a weak excuse. In my opinion. But I get it. His show, his rules.
Hopefully *IF* he ever does cover the other two movies....
he can get a sponsorship with Cornetto and or have a Simon Pegg cameo in it.
That would be cool
Oh hell yeah! That would be epic.
Simon and Nick would be better
He literally said he’s not going to do them
@@deaganlee2042 people can change their minds you know
I really want a corrneto trilogy kill count
And here I thought you wanted to catch Micheal Myers
@@Nato276yeah wait a minute isn’t he dead
@@Nato276yeah (should I tell him or you)
@@redleader5143 depends which time and which timeline
@Joshua Box yes but I'm sure James would prefer to cover more horror and horror adjacent movies like spiral, don't breathe, and the fear streets
“Buggar off, it’s my show”
The most common James A. Janisse thing that you’d hear him say.
"Buggar off, it's my show"
Yeah, James kind of is a prick...
@@grammernotzi nahh don't think hes a prick
@@grammernotzi I mean he has rules
@@Mexican20067 I still watch this channel a lot, but you can see that the success has kind of gone to James's head. But hey, it's his channel. He can do what ever he wants.
Hot Fuzz is basically Scream but set in the cop's view points.
However The World's End has nothing horrifying about it despite the fact that if you replace the blue blood with red it'd be more gory than Evil Dead 2.
I remember my sister taking me to see Hot Fuzz in the cinema when I was 12, and I found some of the kills quite scary. I know it's an action thriller and not a horror movie, but those jump scares spooked me when I didn't expect them!
@@j.murray5656 Anyway, given the victims, even among the protagonists, it amazes me that they didn't kill the villain of The World's End.
@@martincurran4985 what kills?
@@madmehr The kills in Hot Fuzz.
When people say The World's end isn't a horror I kinda wonder what their criteria is. Its a movie about body snatching aliens that copy people and then puree them. And a large part of the movie is the main cast being whittled away while they realize the entire town has been turned. The only reason it had a positive end is because its a horror comedy(which is the same reason SotD had a semi positive end). I think people just discount it because it's the weakest of the trilogy(but still my favorite).
if he doesn't want to cover them it's not a big issue, but i would argue there are quite a few horror elements to each film even if they aren't overtly horror films
I agree. You could argue Aliens is a sci-fi action and not include it in a horror list if you really wanted to. But it's horror enough. Hot Fuzz has a ton of slasher elements in it. And The Worlds End is a body snatchers type of movie. Definitely still horror in my book. Just not as overtly horror as Shaun of the Dead.
@@BrokenGodEnt Slasher elements don't really make a movie horror, though. People can be picked off one by one in gnarly ways in mysteries too, but they're not considered horror. The only element that qualifies Hot Fuzz is the placement of a cult, but that's just a small aspect in order to make it a "Horror" comedy. (Haven't seen World's End so can't really comment on that) I wouldn't even consider Shaun of the Dead horror either, to be honest, but at least it has zombies, I guess. I think the biggest problem is that "horror comedy", while having the word in it, simply lacks the elements to actually qualify for the genre (although I presume takes this on a movie-by-movie basis). It makes references that one would typically consider part of the genre, but outside of that it's just a "coat of paint" to make it appear that way and doesn't really hold elements you'd typically find in horror The Cornetto Trilogy and Zombieland both fall under this. Outside of that, it's all just comedy.
Aliens does have blatant horror elements in it, however. There is fear, dread, and "hold your breath" moments of suspense, hopeless moments and there is a "big bad" (well, "baddies") that are extremely traditional to the genre as well. These definitely fall under horror or thriller than they do Sci-fi or Action. (and of course I wouldn't consider Aliens a thriller outside of those attributes) Sci-Fi can be horror, and Aliens does that well. I'd argue even Jurassic Park has more obvious horror elements than the Cornetto trilogy does.
Now, Mortal Kombat... there are definitely arguments to be made against that... but I think certain exceptions are fine, so long as it is stated as such.
@@sarkaztik3228 Mortal Kombat is definitely a horror movie, or at least a horrific one haha.
The worlds end is much more horrifying to me than shaun of the dead, I get because of aliens it has to be counted as sci-fi but at the very least there’s psychological horror in most every scene until about halfway-3/4 through the film
Hot fuzz has more in relation with scream then anything and worlds end is much like a zombie survival just with Android or robots
I’m just imagining James in a saw trap:
“Hello James. You have denied requests to kill count certain movies despite the fact that they contain horror themes, leaving your fans sad, annoyed, and even angry. But today you get to solve that.
You’ll notice 2 buttons, one to your left and one to your right.
If you press the one on the left you’ll have to every fan request that you have ignored, all but one…
These include films such as Infinity War and the other 2/3s of the cornetto trilogy.
If you press the one of the right, you’ll have to kill count Thankskilling 3.
You have a minute to decide before a poisonous gas comes into the room and kill you,
Make your decision…”
Honestly I think he would press the one on the left easily to avoid... OOOO... that would include Thankskilling 3.
@@gilessaint-loup2426 Did you miss the "all but one" part?
@@thescowl6971 *looks back at the comment* Yes... Yes I did miss it.
James: "Buggar off, its my show"
@@deathstalkerx4415 Jigsaw: Then it dies with you.
Honestly I'd consider world's end to be cosmic horror as (spoilers)
An entire town was replaced by blanks who are essentially body snatchers and the movie ends with the world pretty much ending
i mean i’d consider hot fuzz to be pretty horror too, especially in the second and third act
@@vftriplex I can see that cause it's pretty much a horror movie but from the perspective of the police
What happens in the story doesn't technically make it horror, it's the feelings the story intends to invoke that makes it horror. If it intentionally lacks dread, suspense, fear, anxiety, [and several other emotions that would be too long to list], it doesn't really fall under horror. The reason classic horror such as Edgar Allen Poe are considered as such is because of the affect the creator intended to have on the viewer (whether it successfully invokes these feels is on a person-to-person basis, of course... that's why shitty movies like Slenderman are technically considered horror despite not being scary in the slightest). In this case, if the comedy is too strong and it alleviates those feelings purposefully it wouldn't technically be considered as such. I think that premise definitely sounds like it would be horror, but I haven't seen the movie to see how they actually execute it and lean far into comedy or actual horror.
Hot Fuzz, however, people are murdered by a silly cult but there's really nothing of horror there other than "cult". The whole thing leans on comedy and gore, which don't really make something horror. Shaun of the Dead is the same way. There are zombies, but it's not intended to actually be scary. This is more or less how "Horror Comedy" tends to work in general.
I feel like you could do them by bending the rules a wee bit.
Hot Fuzz: a dangerous murderous cult is silencing those who go against them and are brought down by two unlikely friends drawn together by circumstance.
The Worlds End: An old group of “friends” reunite to go on a glorious adventure to find that things are not as they are seen, the town has been taken over by an overlord controlling body snatchers.
i would say hott fuzz is very "scream" as the cornetto trilogy loves to make fun of and embrace tropes
Yeah, these following movies are definitely horror-adjacent
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if he did them as like april fools kill counts
He’s planning on doing Willy wonka as a April fools kill count
@@kasper_rix8865 we just need to remind him to do it though
I mean I’m fine with his choice to not do they but I feel like he’s done at least a couple of non horror kill counts like Jurassic park/world
but like jurrassic park has at least some horror elements
I feel like both other movies have horror elements, worlds end being horror adjacent too and there’s some really bloody kills in Hot Fuzz
@@UserHasDied i havent seen hot fuzz but from the clips i have seen it seems more actiony then horror and i dont think james would cover an actiony movie, but i might be wrong who knows
@Enda Burns hmm ok
@@divyeshkotthakota7035 yeah it’s heavy action though the cult sub plot and a few of the kills give it a little bit of horror credit
James, you have to cover the other films. Hott Fuzz has gruesome death scenes, and World's End has friggin Aliens in it. Either do it, or we will make you cover Thankskilling 3!
Plus that kill count would be huge for the worlds end because the whole village blows up, sorry for the spoiler
@@ethanfoster2972 but he covered cabin in the woods and the entire world blew up LOL
@@imisstheolddays3732 that’s true actually, but like he might count the village because it’s more countable and we won’t have a kill count of about 7 billion 😂
Yes
This isn’t James
Ok, even if Hot Fuzz is a cop movie, The World's End has a ton of horror scenes, come on! That movie definitively qualifies for a kill count.
If Jurassic Park made it...
And also that church kill was a jump scare already plus there were tons of horror elements in both
Hot Fuzz is almost a slasher film, we have a hooded maniac murdering people with sharp weapons in gruesome ways so idk why it isn't suitable for the kill count.
@Cameron Witcher *dinosaws
Jurassic APrk have dinosaurs and as far as I know James likes dinosaurs nearly as much as he likes horrors
@@TheGreatestDarn That doesn't make it horror, though. . This happens in mysteries too and they simply are not horror. There's no suspense, dread, or worldbuilding that really makes Hot Fuzz horror at all outside of the cult, and even that feels more like an excuse to put it into the horror genre. Shaun of the Dead is the same way with zombies, and so is "Horror Comedy" in general (Zombie Land, Tucker and Dale, The Spree, Psycho Goreman, etc.) Not saying some of those aren't great movies, but gore =/= horror. They're just comedies with a very thin coat of "something from other horror media".
That said, James is known for putting horror comedies into his Kill Counts, so not entirely sure why Hot Fuzz and doesn't fit in (not seen The World's End.)
"Shame."
- Danny Butterman
Funny thing is that Hot Fuzz is considered a horror film by a lot of people. Hell, I saw a screen rant article that put it on a list (can’t remember the exact list) that were ranking horror films. He definitely could get away with it being a horror film and he would get a lot of views (I’d argue that it would end up being one of his most popular videos). It is up to him though as he is clearly very busy with other projects.
That would be the first/second smart thing Screen Rant has ever done. Obviously the other being Ryan George.
@@TheAHuman
Tight
But it’s not a horror film whatsoever. From the outside, if you love to spoil by saying there’s a cult, then sure, but there’s nothing scary, suspenseful, etc. about this comedy.
@@motodog242 it's got more suspense horror than fucking most trying to make a full film of it..
@@motodog242 what makes Shaun scary? Just cause of zombies 😄 cause hot fuzz has more scarier elements by miles
We should give him the choice of the Cornetto trilogy or Thankskilling 3.
Year 2080. All horrors' list is ended, including Shark Exorcist. James:
"As I still refuse to make 'Thankskilling 3' kill count next week we will do all 'Power Rangers' defeat count"
@@Petaurista13 he might even turn to Velocipaster.
I feel like world's end is as much horror as movies like mortal kombat and Jurassic park.
The only creator i know to tell his fans to "buggar off, its my show" when fans suggest or want something and get little to no backlash and tons of understanding
James is cool. These videos take a ton of work for him and his team to make and I can understand why he has rules in place for stuff like this. If he did Hot Fuzz or John Wick, suddenly the channel stop being horror-based and it becomes something more general and you get idiots in the comment section writing stuff like "Fast & Furious franchise kill count!!!".
Mostly because he doesn't do that because he's rude. He says it for fun
I like it, he doesn't let his fans push him around
I get the lack of hot fuzz kill count but I’d love to see a worlds end kill count
I think at the end of the day, James isn't doing those movies because he's not passionate about them. While Jurassic Park and Mortal Kombat aren't strictly horror, the franchises are very personal to him, and so he does a kill count of them to share his passion for something not strictly horror, while also spicing up his channel with different content.
I hear everyone's arguments about how these movies could "technically be horror" but he only seems to be comfortable doing those horror adjacent movies because he's passionate about them. Hell, even the Tammy and the T Rex movie was about a killer dinosaur (a concept he loves because of JP). Why cover these movies with a dash of horror in them if he himself doesn't love them enough to overlook their "horror adjacent" status? If he does just anything with horror elements in them, then kill counts like MK become less special, to him and the audience, and it opens the door to cover anything relatively horror (like The Watch or anything similar)
(This was needlessly long-winded and won't change any minds, but I wanted to say something)
and he covered upgrade because its body horror adjacent
also he has some movies in his blu ray collection that could be considered horror adjacent like the unbreakable series, battle royale, greta, and stay (2005). and also maybe spontaneous
Like he said it's his show he can choose what he wants to do
James bends the rules when he wants!
He's already covered Shawn of the Dead so he might as well cover the rest of the trilogy even if they aren't horror.
Tbh hot fuzz and worlds end both have horror elements. The scene where Simon peg meets the towns cult and all the kills are very horror like. Worlds end isn’t to different from predator in a horror sense.
Just do it James cmon break the rules
I keep throwing around an idea in my head to make a James approved spin off of the kill count for action movies so people can stop asking James to kill count films that don't fit into horror/horror-adjacent
I'd say that the other films are Cop Horror (less defendable.) and Sci-Fi horror, from what I've heard.
Funny thing is he’s more likely to do a cornetto kill count than a thankskilling 3 kill count
I feel like another Fan Channel should be a parody version of Dead Meat covering Kill Counts that absolutely will not get one
One day he'll run out of horror movies and do them. I know famn well it'll happen before thankskilling 3
No he won’t “run out”
He won't run out of horror movies
Soon...
The First Film is a Zomedy, and the second film is a Buddy Action Crime Comedy Film, and the Third last film is a Sci-Fi Comedy film.
There are horror elements in Hot Fuzz and Worlds End. Like the spooky cult murder mystery or the synths taking over the world. If the Jurassic movies got a kill count, these two aren’t so far fetched of an idea.
Here’s a quiz question for any fans of the trilogy:
What is the name of the plant the Sargent angel is holding in the middle.
Japanese tea lily I think?
@@theolloyd6329 correct we have a winner
I instantly thought in my head peace lily does that still count?...
Shaun of the Dead - Horror.
James: 😃
Hot Fuzz - Action Comedy
The World’s End - Sci-Fi
James: 😕
This is the first time I’ll ever have to call bullshit on James.Hotfuzz straight up has a slasher who done it and made fun of some horror tropes like other movies he’s done on the kill count while The World’s End has some horror elements,at least more than goddamn mortal kombat.Plus he’s done action comedy sci-fi’s before with the predator franchise and technically Cabin in the Woods has some sci-fi and action elements.
Hot Fuzz is a top tier comedy in my opinion. I’d like to see it covered!
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Will you be covering fear street I love them
This is not run by James. But the video from yesterday was James saying he will be
As much as I'd like James, Zoran, or Chelsea to cover Hot Fuzz or The World's End,
1) I respect their decision to not cover them. It's their show and if they don't wanna cover it, then I don't think they should be forced to.
2) The World's End might not be super interesting of a Kill Count. I love the movie, but most of the kills occur off-screen or not even in the movie itself. Even the with the ending, I'm not really sure how many folks get axed off. Most of it would be done through guess work without much concrete evidence. At least Dude Bro Massacre III was kind enough to show the killer prank in action and give us a concrete number to work with.
I mean to be fair I get where he is coming from, but at this point he should just drop this "only horror/horror adjacent movies" rule, because he already covered a lot of movies that are neither of those two categories.
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Yeah Hot Fuzz is really horrific when you think about it, i mean it literally includes a cult that brutally kills people that don't conform to their view of perfection.
The World's End features Aliens that act as drones that kill Humans for their overlords.
Plus, the inconsistency of chosen films can't be ignored James.
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@@riddypr This is irrelevant brainlet, eat it.
@@maylabrown4584 Is it irrelevant? It's his show, he chooses what he covers. He chose not to cover Hot Fuzz or World's End so they're not gonna be on the Kill Count.
@@riddypr Yeah it is irrelevant, an inconsistency is an inconsistency brainlet.
@@maylabrown4584 Okay, I'll give you that, it is inconsistent. Though I never knew an inconsistency could also be an inconsistency brainlet.
Bummer, although there is horror elements in both 2 flavoured cornetto movies.
Honestly if you replace the blue blood with red in the world's end it becomes a horror movie
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trilogy kill count
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I won't lie, I'd love to see a KC of Hot Fuzz. I know it's an action comedy movie but it had a secret murder cult that ran the town and that lends itself to being if not a horror comedy, a thriller comedy.
if James ditches the thanksgiving theme for those kill counts and just says “fuck it” and chooses non festive movies instead of doing thankskilling 3 then top of my list would honestly be Hot Fuzz and From Dusk Til Dawn 😂
Tbh, both movies are as much action comedy and scifi comedy as they're also horror. Like, Hot Fuzz is an entire murder mystery with some really gnarly deaths, while World's End is basiaclly Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
There are a few people that class Hot fuzz as horror but with more action and words end is just androids (great one)
This the one thing I fight James on man, come aaaaaaaahhhhhnn
Nothing gets me harder than James putting the audience in their place.
Hot fuzz’s murder scenes are shot like horror slashers and the worlds end fits in alien apocalyptic horror films… I’m just trying to make a case for those films
To be fair a kill count on hot fuzz and the worlds end wouldn't be very entertaining
Personally, I see a slight horror tinge in Hot Fuzz and The World's End, with the serial killer in the former and the alien takeover in the latter. Also, Hot Fuzz has some really interesting kills, just saying...
If you haven’t seen hot fuzz, go see it because while it is a buddy cop comedy it has a lot of horror elements especially the church scene.
If upgrade can make the cut, the world's end absolutely has to
I mean, I would say that the worlds end is a Scifi-comedy with horror elements, (body snatching, invasions, hiveminds, etc...)
Comedy Horror, Comedy Action, and Comedy Sci-Fi us actually a really clever way of doing a “trilogy”
Maaaaaan, Hot Fuzz is kind of a slasher. I reckon you could get away with it
Funny thing is Sci-Fi sometimes gets lumped in with horror movies cause of how some of them are presented.
Hot Fuzz gave me literally nightmares sooo....do with that as you will, however it's up to you what you wanna do :3
That thumbnail is awesome. :)
Someone like Matpat should team up with James for a kill count of normal movies
Hot fuzz is a horror comedy though and if people are brutalized in worlds end like they are in the first two then it’s a scifi horror comedy
“Booger off it’s my show!”
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Wouldn’t Worlds End technically be horror adjacent?
I mean, Hot Fuzz is more horror-adjacent than something like And Then There Was Shawn.
To be fair, Hot Fuzz only has like three people die. The whole point was that the police try to not kill anyone. The World's End though, definitely worth it, and it may be comedy and sci fi but that shit's scary.
Not 3.
6 people died in Hot Fuzz.
At least if you only count the on screen deaths. There is a scene where Nicholas finds like 7 dead bodies. Which would make it about 13 kills.
@@iamthewell I made a guess, but my guess was way under, I only remembered three murder victims Nicholas was investigating. The bad actor, The speeding guy, and then the journalist whose death is etched into my head. Well shucks you've made me realize I need to watch the movie again.
@@18Themega I actually commented a kill count on this post, as if James would present it. With the names and time stamps, golden chainsaw etc. But i don't really like to spam so i'm gonna let you know here. You had the romeo and juliet couple, the rich dude, the journalist, the florist (the women who "fell" into her own shears) and the guy at the end at the police station. So yeah 6. After Nicholas discovered the cult he saw dead bodies, but sometimes James doesn't count those, and sometimes he does. Hmmm...?
Then again, James did "kill" counts for less. Like don't breathe, which had only 3 death.
@@iamthewell Damn, I really need to rewatch this movie. It's cool to see someone so dedicated, you're a baller individual.
I selfishly want Kill Counts of these because I love both films and genuinely think they’re horror adjacent enough to qualify. But I get it.
I feel like you could consider World's End to at least be horror-adjacent
I don't know what he is talking about. My esteem for the cornetto films gets brutally murdered in The Worlds End. Still gives me nightmares.
The cornetto trilogy and the Scary movies kill counts I need in the future
This genuinely makes me sad.
I would argue World’s End definitely has some horror elements
I would agree on the kill count episodes of Hot Fuzz and The World's End, however with a twist to the format, in hot fuzz we do get the kills however we also get some pretty cool non lethal moments in the movie so two lists could be done and then finally for worlds end, rather than a "kill count" it's a "Conversion Count" as the humans got converted into androids so..
You could make a good case for World’s End as scifi-horror though.
Damn, I was really hoping for a Hot Fuzz kill count. It's such a great film lol
He says he won't do it, but all we gotta do is wait until he runs out of Thanksgiving movies to cover. I guarantee you he'll do World's End or Hot Fuzz before he does Thankskilling 3.
Edgar Wright’s new movie last night in soho is a horror movie so we have that to look forward too
worlds end should atleast get covered, because its not just scifi comedy its also horror
Well looks like we just got the
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I would say both of those other two movies have horror elements (slasher/cult and horror/sci-fi), but that's just me.
Ngl, I found The World's End is more horror-like than Shaun Of The Dead, the way the robots slowly pick off and assimilate the core cast as they hopelessly try to fight back and escape
idk if james has seen worlds end because it actually does have horror elements
Hot Fuzz had a little bit of everything.
It had a bit of slasher to it, yes mostly action and comedy, but it also (if you want to push it which I do) had a tiny bit of Kaiju in there too
… I’m sorry, please explain where the giant monsters are in the movie-
*remembers the final fight*
… Fuck, he’s right.
Such a damn shame
I know what we can do y'all! lets tweet him all the time about it.
but seriously I hope he does do it.
not surprise tbf.
There are some cool kills in Hot Fuzz. At World's End? Don't remember them well
I hope he’s in the upcoming what if series
I want James to do more action movies like upgrade, Mortal Kombat, Predator 2018
Kinda weird that tbh. Cuz though Shaun of the dead directly riffs horror films, Hot Fuzz still has very noticeable crime/slasher horror elements aswell as The Worlds end having a lot of sci-fi horror elements
I mean Worlds End had elements of horror in it.
I'd consider most of Hot Fuzz a slasher tbh. Then it veers into action. And I think The Worlds End is a sci-fi movie, but it's also a horror movie.
Not used to him saying MORTAL KOMBAT normally
Honestly I think the worlds end is the more scary one, when all the blanks stand still in the streets to look at them always gave me chills
100% do what you want on your own show. But I do wish you’d do more kill counts for non horror. Something like suicide squad 2 (I’m not saying cover it because it’s not the best movie. but it does have some good kills) and movies like it in terms of kills would be cool to watch
I love James, but I'm sorry. This is such a stupid excuse after he just did BOTH Mortal Kombat films and is planning on doing the new one.
Not too mention that he did Tammy and the T-Rex which is a black comedy film
Bugger off it’s his show
@@hydro5975 Well, it's still a dumb excuse even if it's his show.
@@vincenzobartone2539 Yeah, I was kind of upset at that one. I was expecting some sort of horror, but nothing except the violence said horror to me.
@@maneater3795 Indeed. It's kind of hypocritical. I enjoy his content but if it's not a horror movie, then he shouldn't review. His argument that films with "horror elements" like Jurassic Park is a weak excuse. In my opinion. But I get it. His show, his rules.