Good morning Urie/Steve, I have owned a Vepr 12 for a couple of years and absolutely love it. I just have to go back to this video every so often because I miss Urie (you too Steve). You are simply excellent in switching accents! Please keep posting - as Urie or as yourself - I love you both. Again, all the very best to you (Steve and Urie) and yours, Terry
The Vepr will run birdshot through the drum, but you need to polish the bolt face, and put a lighter recoil spring on the guide rod. You might need to grind a mm or less off of the hammer and you'll get more reliable results. You probably know all this though.
Your vepr drum mag follies looked like my first time out with my saiga before doing some serious bolt carrier polishing. I was wishing I just bought a pump until I got it running right.
VEPR is a better target/competition gun and Saiga is a better hunting/combat shotgun. The VEPR wins on reload speed, but it's 'universal' gas block works by bleeding off a ton of gas from 00 buck and slugs so that it can cycle target ammo, but not beat itself apart shooting full power loads. The issue there is that the projectiles are loosing a lot of velocity and power. So though the Saiga 12 is more inconvenient with it's adjustable gas system, you can dial it up to run target ammo or down for full power loads while retaining performance. VEPR is also quite a bit heavier and bulkier. Saiga is lighter and more streamlined with it's standard AK furniture. So again, for a range gun or for competition, mag changes with the VEPR will be faster. For hunting or combat though, the Saiga is easier to carry and better utilizes full power loads.
Looks like the saiga won to me . I stopped counting after 12 fte but that was blamed on the mag. As far as controls he was slower operating the Vepr . it shoots flatter so put a barrel shroud on your saiga same effect
I own both a Saiga 12 and Vepr 12, found a SDS lynx 12 on budsgunshop after taxes it was like 350. The Lynx out of the box ran better than both of the better quality about 3 times as expensive guns. It's nowhere near the fit and finish of a vepr but I'm shocked at it working so well! The Saiga I got runs flawlessly firing everything now that I've put some money and time into it. A reliability kit and a tac 47 auto plug, as well as just shooting/ breaking it in is what it took. I'd love to try out one of the newer kalashnikov USA ks 12's.
I am between a 10 year old VEPR-12 with extras (3 mags x 12), red dot, compensator, 3 chokes, really good condition overall and a new SAIGA 12. The SAIGAs are the only available new in my country at the moment due to NATO sanctions
Found that with a new 25 rd drum, a little powdered graphite added makes the drum slick on inside so it feeds better. Low brass has to be approx 1250 fps or better to work in the Vepr. Pay attention to fps and dram equivalent. A broken in gun ALWAYS runs better. Get it broke in and work your way down in fps or dram until you have a problem, then dont use that ammo. VEPR is a Vepr. Great semi auto 12. Some sharp edges can be filed off here and there to make it less abrasive to fingers etc. With that Russian Sutaev muzzle brake it is more flat shooter, but better, more modern usa made brakes are available. Love the basic crudeness of the AK design. Reliable is what you are after here...not looks! Peace out!
imho the vepr 12 wins hands down, why? its importable, the saiga has been banned for about 5 years if i recall correctly, plus the vepr 12 seems to be overall less finicky about the ammo it shoots 9 times out of 10 it functions adequately with almost all ammo, the saiga needs a bit more massaging or work if you want to call it that so it functions as it should have right out of the box, personally with my vepr12's i only shoot wolf rifled slugs and high brass buck shot and never ever had a malfunction. if you want any saiga or vepr to work its best polish all contact areas like the bolt, carrier, rails, hammer, etc, this will greatly improve the gun cyclical ability when you are using it.
Chris Ursiny hey I've seen a couple of your videos when I was looking for breaks lol. I know what you mean though. I consider the saiga a great project gun if you want to put the wrench time in. I loved building it. Vepr wins yes, but both cool I think. The only time I remember having issues with the vepr was in the video using birdshot in the drum. It's always cycled everything. My saiga is just well broken in over the years, so now I never have an issue either. It ran flawless in the video. No tricky edits anywhere. Everyone saw what happened that day.
@@frankernest3712 So he said, but the Saiga ran a drum with only one jam and the action not closing all the way at first. When there’s no indication that the drums came from different manufacturers, and one ran better than the other, I’m inclined to believe it’s the guns, not (just) the drums.
@@CrudeConduct666 That’s what he claimed, but there’s no evidence of that, just his word. Meanwhile, the Saiga ran the previous drum with only one jam, and at no point does he indicate they came from different manufacturers. When they both ran drums from presumably the same company, and one runs better than the other, it’s most likely the guns making the difference.
Did the additional weight from the charging handle cause cycling issues? I used a steel one and had to take it off because it turned a nice gun into a Jamb O Matic. Try it without the charging handle. I bet it will cycle better.
My saiga has an auto plug installed from tak47, it eats everything !,so what it doesn't stay open after it's empty, no big deal when you get used to it, runs perfect !, I wouldn't trade it for a veper, it's not an upgrade in my opinion.
Im seeing alot of pros & cons with them both, the auto gas on the vepr seems that it looses a little pressure, whereas with the saiga you dont, i do like the b.h.o on the vepr, my saiga i can load with the bolt closed but it requires more effort. My saiga cycles ALL but Winchester #7&1/2 from walmart. The federal runs fine. No veprs in maryland only chinese knock offs which do work just as good seemingly.
shouldn't shoot buckshot with the low brass springs in no? also, may I request that you swap breaks gun to gun and see what that does? they are diff guns , beprs over gassed, so its really not an apples to apples comparison...
you can shoot buck with low brass kit. Just turn you gas setting down to 1-2. It really wasn't meant to be apples to apples. however, at the end of the day they are both 12g shotguns. one with a manual gas adjustment to try and get them similar. it generally shows how effective the comp is.
Maybe it's the cabin fever from being inside so long with the pandemic but, I was entertained! :-) You mentioned in an earlier video on the Vepr 12 that you had changed some of the internals to comply with 922R when you changed the charging handle, the OEM handguard and the vertical foregrip. Could you elaborate on those parts; if those parts enhanced performance; where you got them or if it was just a compliance move? My Veper 12 is box stock and I'm still amazed at how good it is though, I like to optimize all my self-defense gear.
I used to have a Saiga. Fun gun, but had a few issues that were mostly addressed on the VEPR. Gas adjuster was fucking annoying... it was hard to tell what setting it was on, and got jammed up after not being cleaned commonly to the point where you would need a screwdriver to turn it. No magwell on the saiga was another good selling feature on the vepr - inserting a mag into an ak style rifle can already be a little annoying, but it was even worse on the saiga in my experience. Ended up selling mine because I needed cash at the time, looking to possible buy a new one and will absolutely go vepr if i can get a good price.
No 8 birdshot varies from 24 gram (target loads for those that shoot clay with over under ) to 36 gram for real small bird hunting at 38 to 40 grams is semi or baby or demi magnum so it is the load that matters not the number of the shot 00 buck i am not sure but it must be at 34 grams
Box mag is superior over the drum you get more shots in a drum but it much bigger and more akward to carry and you waste much volume since the shells are in the outside area, realy drums are more for fun than they are practical. Side note realy the true usefull drum magazines where used by the MG 34 and 42 (don´t know if the MG 3 had them), cause these drums where empty and just for holding a 50 round belt and make it more convienient than having a belt hanging of the side where it could be cought by something. Also i real realy want a Vepr-12
Put the comp from the VEPR 12 on the S12 and it will shoot just as flat, both have M22x.75 threads...so that is a little unfair to the S12. A little practiced technique and you can load on a S12 closed bolt and be just as fast as the VEPR. Both great shotguns but the review is a bit biased toward the VEPR.....
Please No Yuri.... in any accent... Unless it's the CIA using it instead of waterboarding... As far as the VEPR vs. Saiga. I think the Saiga went through some of the growing pains for which the VEPR benefited from. The VEPR is definitely more refined and geared more for competition than the Saiga. When the Saiga started coming in to the States, it was more of a gimmick than practical. VEPR on the other hand, are heavily used in some countries in 3 Gun competition. As a matter of fact even the latest Chinese variants are equipped similarly as the VEPRs. I own a VEPR for several years now and I've done some work to it as well and I will have to admit that it is one of the smoothest auto I've shot.
Its your compensator man.........put a screw in full choke on it and it will run anything.......had the same issue now mine runs LB like candy and switch to HB BS and 3" no problem.
hadji annihilator it seems like they were just trying to outdo promag and be more economical than those big metal skeletonized ones that other company makes with higher capacity. It is huge though for only a 5 round difference. Probably could have fit 30
Defenetly see the better gas system of the veper. (NOT) Cant ve that good if you had to manually cycle the shots 90% of the time. There is veats a saiga.
It's because he's running drums that aren't perfectly cleaned. Believe me, I have a VEPR and with my 12 round mags no matter what I put in it, birdshot to slugs it runs flawlessly every time.
I don't know if you are American or not but before you bag on him for pronunciation, go to Google Translate and translate from English to Russian, the word SAIGA. Then listen to the audio pronunciation...its SAYGA, even the phonetic spelling is SAY GA.
I just think it's cool that you go from a Czech russian accent to a mexican with a New York accent while talking.
The accent man... Don't even bother lol. He sounds like a Chinese guy who lived in Vietnam for 10 years then moved to Finland.
that's oddly specific
VeitKonG
Sounds spot on
Good morning Urie/Steve,
I have owned a Vepr 12 for a couple of years and absolutely love it.
I just have to go back to this video every so often because I miss Urie (you too Steve).
You are simply excellent in switching accents!
Please keep posting - as Urie or as yourself - I love you both.
Again, all the very best to you (Steve and Urie) and yours,
Terry
The Vepr will run birdshot through the drum, but you need to polish the bolt face, and put a lighter recoil spring on the guide rod. You might need to grind a mm or less off of the hammer and you'll get more reliable results. You probably know all this though.
Your vepr drum mag follies looked like my first time out with my saiga before doing some serious bolt carrier polishing. I was wishing I just bought a pump until I got it running right.
VEPR is a better target/competition gun and Saiga is a better hunting/combat shotgun. The VEPR wins on reload speed, but it's 'universal' gas block works by bleeding off a ton of gas from 00 buck and slugs so that it can cycle target ammo, but not beat itself apart shooting full power loads. The issue there is that the projectiles are loosing a lot of velocity and power. So though the Saiga 12 is more inconvenient with it's adjustable gas system, you can dial it up to run target ammo or down for full power loads while retaining performance. VEPR is also quite a bit heavier and bulkier. Saiga is lighter and more streamlined with it's standard AK furniture. So again, for a range gun or for competition, mag changes with the VEPR will be faster. For hunting or combat though, the Saiga is easier to carry and better utilizes full power loads.
Looks like the saiga won to me . I stopped counting after 12 fte but that was blamed on the mag. As far as controls he was slower operating the Vepr . it shoots flatter so put a barrel shroud on your saiga same effect
The accent is a no go
I own both a Saiga 12 and Vepr 12, found a SDS lynx 12 on budsgunshop after taxes it was like 350. The Lynx out of the box ran better than both of the better quality about 3 times as expensive guns. It's nowhere near the fit and finish of a vepr but I'm shocked at it working so well! The Saiga I got runs flawlessly firing everything now that I've put some money and time into it. A reliability kit and a tac 47 auto plug, as well as just shooting/ breaking it in is what it took. I'd love to try out one of the newer kalashnikov USA ks 12's.
Hi bro, i had a VEPR too, between the VEPR and the Lynkx, Lynx hands down every day.
I had an sds lynx and loved it.. I'll get another..
I am between a 10 year old VEPR-12 with extras (3 mags x 12), red dot, compensator, 3 chokes, really good condition overall and a new SAIGA 12. The SAIGAs are the only available new in my country at the moment due to NATO sanctions
How do you cycle the gas setting for bird shot to buck and to bigger targets? Please explain.
Hi ☺ I'm from Ukraine. Saiga & Vepr 12 are produced in Russia not in Ukraine.
Slava Z
Death to khokhols
ughh... the accent. It hurts! 😣
It's right out from Boris-the-Blade or Boris-the-bullet-dodger from the Snatch by Guy Ritchie. Enjoy it ;)
The accent tells you a lot about the person talking about a certain gun this guy is obviously an expert in all Kalashnikov
Stronger ammo or a lighter spring or both will take care of that VEPR feeding issue. It does not like 7 and 8 shot in general
Found that with a new 25 rd drum, a little powdered graphite added makes the drum slick on inside so it feeds better. Low brass has to be approx 1250 fps or better to work in the Vepr. Pay attention to fps and dram equivalent. A broken in gun ALWAYS runs better. Get it broke in and work your way down in fps or dram until you have a problem, then dont use that ammo. VEPR is a Vepr. Great semi auto 12. Some sharp edges can be filed off here and there to make it less abrasive to fingers etc. With that Russian Sutaev muzzle brake it is more flat shooter, but better, more modern usa made brakes are available. Love the basic crudeness of the AK design. Reliable is what you are after here...not looks! Peace out!
Love that compensator! Where did you purchase it?
Saiga shoots like an AK.
imho the vepr 12 wins hands down, why? its importable, the saiga has been banned for about 5 years if i recall correctly, plus the vepr 12 seems to be overall less finicky about the ammo it shoots 9 times out of 10 it functions adequately with almost all ammo, the saiga needs a bit more massaging or work if you want to call it that so it functions as it should have right out of the box, personally with my vepr12's i only shoot wolf rifled slugs and high brass buck shot and never ever had a malfunction. if you want any saiga or vepr to work its best polish all contact areas like the bolt, carrier, rails, hammer, etc, this will greatly improve the gun cyclical ability when you are using it.
Chris Ursiny hey I've seen a couple of your videos when I was looking for breaks lol. I know what you mean though. I consider the saiga a great project gun if you want to put the wrench time in. I loved building it. Vepr wins yes, but both cool I think. The only time I remember having issues with the vepr was in the video using birdshot in the drum. It's always cycled everything. My saiga is just well broken in over the years, so now I never have an issue either. It ran flawless in the video. No tricky edits anywhere. Everyone saw what happened that day.
Chris Ursiny how's that ban now lol
Chris Ursiny Now the Vepr is banned 😔
Everett Stahl bought my vepr 12 today. Ban didn't stop me from buying it...
fins 71 Bought 2 Friday, didn't stop me but they're going to dry up and price rise. That's the result of an import ban.
I realize this is an old post .. what pic rail do you use under the Vepr
*Goes on about how much better the Vepr’s action and gas system is*
Jams on first shot. Lol.
@Michael Brooks It is that drum. SGM products can be hit & miss
That's the drums fault, nothing to do with the gas system
@@frankernest3712 So he said, but the Saiga ran a drum with only one jam and the action not closing all the way at first. When there’s no indication that the drums came from different manufacturers, and one ran better than the other, I’m inclined to believe it’s the guns, not (just) the drums.
@@CrudeConduct666 That’s what he claimed, but there’s no evidence of that, just his word. Meanwhile, the Saiga ran the previous drum with only one jam, and at no point does he indicate they came from different manufacturers. When they both ran drums from presumably the same company, and one runs better than the other, it’s most likely the guns making the difference.
saiga also has a 50 round drum available.
How do get a bolt hold open tab on a Saiga? I got a KS12T that needs one.
Did the additional weight from the charging handle cause cycling issues? I used a steel one and had to take it off because it turned a nice gun into a Jamb O Matic. Try it without the charging handle. I bet it will cycle better.
"why I like the vep12 more than the saiga"....there, fixed the title for you.
except the Saiga was cycling way better
@@digidork4 true. I had a saiga but sold it. Fun but not practical carry a long 10 rnd mag lol
@@grimakastatik Drums exist for a reason…
Talks about how good the Vepr is … It immediately starts choking lmao 🤣. Saiga 12 for the win 🏆!
federal 1200 fps birdshot from Wal-Mart will work in the drum. That's what I run.
Where's Urie right now?
Very good side comparison, from what i see i say Vepr has less recoil and more smooth .
Can u explain again why the vepr with the drum didn’t work? I had a JM930 did same thing and I sold it bc of the cycling issues!
Luke Kwan that drum likes cycling heavy loads. 00 buck or any hot loads will cycle fine in my experience.
My saiga has an auto plug installed from tak47, it eats everything !,so what it doesn't stay open after it's empty, no big deal when you get used to it, runs perfect !, I wouldn't trade it for a veper, it's not an upgrade in my opinion.
Every guy who doesn't own a Vepr12 says the same shit, 😂
Im seeing alot of pros & cons with them both, the auto gas on the vepr seems that it looses a little pressure, whereas with the saiga you dont, i do like the b.h.o on the vepr, my saiga i can load with the bolt closed but it requires more effort. My saiga cycles ALL but Winchester #7&1/2 from walmart. The federal runs fine. No veprs in maryland only chinese knock offs which do work just as good seemingly.
How much is the price of Viber and how much is the price of Saiga
I'm glad I bought the Vepr. I wanted a Saiga, the gunshop owner told me the Vepr was superior. this was 8 years ago.
Out of the box yes. But put a little cash into the saiga and it is a fucking pig.
The vepr looks f**king awesome
That Shooting Guy So do Air Soft toys, How a Gun, WORKS IN BATTLE IS WHAT MATTERS.
muzzel brake on your vepr can be causing some backpressure issues i ran my vepr12 no muzzelbrake same drummag 25 shots of birdshot flawlessly
Muzzle break called SUTAEV. I owe ILLIN 3 and ILLIN 3+ for my Saiga-12 mod 340. IMHO 3+ is the best muzzle break.
I also read that with a modification to the mags the Saiga mags will work in the Vepr. But Vepr mags can't work in a Saiga.
Try the Tac47 Auto Plug for your Saiga 12
Same thing happened with my SGM drum mag. I sold that piece of garbage and my 2 12 round mags. I only run factory vepr mags now.
shouldn't shoot buckshot with the low brass springs in no? also, may I request that you swap breaks gun to gun and see what that does? they are diff guns , beprs over gassed, so its really not an apples to apples comparison...
you can shoot buck with low brass kit. Just turn you gas setting down to 1-2. It really wasn't meant to be apples to apples. however, at the end of the day they are both 12g shotguns. one with a manual gas adjustment to try and get them similar. it generally shows how effective the comp is.
11:25 Is a combat offhand stance - dodging fire while returning fire .👻
1400 FPS in the VEPR12 drum and never had a problem since...
Common man, this is not fair. It is very old Saiga version. My Saiga-12 mod 340 for IPSC is real deal!
Maybe it's the cabin fever from being inside so long with the pandemic but, I was entertained! :-) You mentioned in an earlier video on the Vepr 12 that you had changed some of the internals to comply with 922R when you changed the charging handle, the OEM handguard and the vertical foregrip. Could you elaborate on those parts; if those parts enhanced performance; where you got them or if it was just a compliance move? My Veper 12 is box stock and I'm still amazed at how good it is though, I like to optimize all my self-defense gear.
do you know if the siaga mags fit the vepr? I dont have my siaga anymore but have an opportunity to buy a vepr 12 fs
Peter Mose as far as I know they don't.
They do if you file down a few sections
I used to have a Saiga. Fun gun, but had a few issues that were mostly addressed on the VEPR. Gas adjuster was fucking annoying... it was hard to tell what setting it was on, and got jammed up after not being cleaned commonly to the point where you would need a screwdriver to turn it. No magwell on the saiga was another good selling feature on the vepr - inserting a mag into an ak style rifle can already be a little annoying, but it was even worse on the saiga in my experience. Ended up selling mine because I needed cash at the time, looking to possible buy a new one and will absolutely go vepr if i can get a good price.
Jonathan h I’ve seen some vepr12s on Atlantic firearms recently for $999 I believe. Probably one of the better prices you’ll find nowadays.
The Saiga I have has all the features of the vepr only a little lighter.
It's a V30.
Doesnt it jam a lot?
@@noewey8821 why would it?
Price
6:54 he said no mag in the chamber. Boy does he have the anatomy of a gun fucked up
Does Saiga and Vpr use the same magazine?
No
Nice gun
What kind of compensator on the Vepr?
Donald Robertson I did a separate video with the upgraded parts. Check that out!
Any of those drums fit 3" magnums?
That Shooting Guy I don't think they can.
Ok thank you!
That Shooting Guy My, 12 rd SGM, Stick mags do , ( SAIGA) W/ DUPLECKS, [ EXPANDING Stainless steel Slugs] they are BRUTAL! , & High Velocity! [ DUPO 28] 2& 3/4 .
They are 2 & 3/4".. as the projectile is, steel, &, the Magnum load, is Huge, I haven't seen these available, in a long time...
That 25 round drum is gigantic feel like it should at least hold 30
I have saiga wanting vaper
Break the weld? So it came welded? Stever_MP5
ROB R yes. Importation 922r rules. I did a video on it.
You make yourself look bad. Trying to talk down on the saiga. 🤣
FS Russia? Did you mean FPSRussia? LoL
Michael Cabusi hahaha yea but have you ever noticed when he says it with the accent it comes out like FSHH. LOL
Molto simpatico tanti saluti da italia ciao zio carletto
Your argument about the BHO is invalid. The magazine makes it the bolt hold open, not the gun itself.
That just made it a bolt action shotgun lol
Way too much hate good video dog
Phoenix kick lite stock makes a world of difference
No 8 birdshot varies from 24 gram (target loads for those that shoot clay with over under )
to 36 gram for real small bird hunting
at 38 to 40 grams is semi or baby or demi magnum
so it is the load that matters not the number of the shot
00 buck i am not sure but it must be at 34 grams
Vepr have a nice compensator
SAIGA have nothing SO is bad comparison
I have both of them super good
And you sound more like a Filipino accent
You can purchase 3 saigas for 1 Vepr today.
A semi auto shotgun with 5 to 10 rounds capacity is the most effective home defense device. Shorter length the better.
And the winner is: Lynx 12!
Box mag is superior over the drum you get more shots in a drum but it much bigger and more akward to carry and you waste much volume since the shells are in the outside area, realy drums are more for fun than they are practical.
Side note realy the true usefull drum magazines where used by the MG 34 and 42 (don´t know if the MG 3 had them), cause these drums where empty and just for holding a 50 round belt and make it more convienient than having a belt hanging of the side where it could be cought by something.
Also i real realy want a Vepr-12
You can stop bolt open on Saiga by holding bolt and pushing trigger
Really? Can you explain a little better.. im a noob.
Put the comp from the VEPR 12 on the S12 and it will shoot just as flat, both have M22x.75 threads...so that is a little unfair to the S12. A little practiced technique and you can load on a S12 closed bolt and be just as fast as the VEPR. Both great shotguns but the review is a bit biased toward the VEPR.....
Please No Yuri.... in any accent...
Unless it's the CIA using it instead of waterboarding...
As far as the VEPR vs. Saiga.
I think the Saiga went through some of the growing pains for which the VEPR benefited from.
The VEPR is definitely more refined and geared more for competition than the Saiga. When the Saiga started coming in to the States, it was more of a gimmick than practical. VEPR on the other hand, are heavily used in some countries in 3 Gun competition. As a matter of fact even the latest Chinese variants are equipped similarly as the VEPRs.
I own a VEPR for several years now and I've done some work to it as well and I will have to admit that it is one of the smoothest auto I've shot.
это была попытка говорить с русским акцентом? (it was an attempt to speak with a Russian accent?)
Its your compensator man.........put a screw in full choke on it and it will run anything.......had the same issue now mine runs LB like candy and switch to HB BS and 3" no problem.
lmao guys its a joke character the accent doesnt matter
The vepr 12 will have feed issues if you use ammo under 1300 fps
Depends on the brand ! i try winchester 1200fps and it wont cycle every time. the federal 1200fps on the other hand , cycles every time .
President sound good "president talks more"more business anyway have nice day "
Benelli m4 The king 👑
Don't understand why sgm made a 25 drum it's too big bulky it just isn't practical. I own one and it just looks ridiculous. A 20 would be perfect
hadji annihilator it seems like they were just trying to outdo promag and be more economical than those big metal skeletonized ones that other company makes with higher capacity. It is huge though for only a 5 round difference. Probably could have fit 30
hadji annihilator they have a 20 and 12 round drums just not by Sgm tactical.. I think it's promag
where do you live? love the creepy fog :)
That accent is like Vietnamese like no way Russia
My Buddy bought the sagia I bought the veper now he wishes he had bought the veper.
Urie, you have a typo in the title..."veer" instead of vepr
caught that and fixed it!! Thanks!!
No problem Steve.
Accident be like what is di we
I liked the video help me choose I’m getting the vepr most tho because my brother loves all things saiga so I have to go a different route
i heard saiga magazines will work in the vpr but vpr mags will not work in saiga
Bullshit, not interchangeable
Based on this video the vepr seems a little overated to me the saiga seems like a good gun without all the extra features of the vepr
Doesnt the saiga jam a lot?
@@noewey8821 I've heard rumors that some do and that some of them run perfectly fine
Urie from Asia
Federal 1500 fsp
Defenetly see the better gas system of the veper. (NOT) Cant ve that good if you had to manually cycle the shots 90% of the time.
There is veats a saiga.
Damn,with jams like that I'd rather have a pump
It's because he's running drums that aren't perfectly cleaned. Believe me, I have a VEPR and with my 12 round mags no matter what I put in it, birdshot to slugs it runs flawlessly every time.
Asian, Spanish accent , funny.
I liked this video.I would have liked it even better if you didn't pronounce saiga as sega.
I don't know if you are American or not but before you bag on him for pronunciation, go to Google Translate and translate from English to Russian, the word SAIGA. Then listen to the audio pronunciation...its SAYGA, even the phonetic spelling is SAY GA.
The Vepr will be MUCH more expensive than the Saiga 12( in Russian, pronounced suh-iee-gah vee-nohtzit)!
I have buy anyone, the molot vepr; is a beast like a russian bear!
Swap brake.
No Urie
👍
MUDAK
I have a saiga 12, it is a piece of shit and i love it to bits.