Skim over Artex the Easy Method
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023
- Want a nice, simple way to plaster over artex.
This is the method I use on every Artex ceiling.
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any questions then please get me in the comments section 👍
This is better than ANYTHING on television...!
been drywall'in 47yrs, I've done it all. I been doing ornamental plaster work and some synthetic (ugh) for the last few yrs. I always am teaching, but with you my friend, I am learning. It's great to see a man who is a master at his trade and shows pride in it!
The Paul Hollywood of the skimmers!
A real man doing real work. Getting rarer every day.
I have been plastering for 33 years, and I have to say fair play your very neat and tidy, when I skim over artex I put a 1 hand full of bonding per bag into my first coat, lay it on quite thick then speedskim both ways, and flatten with a trowel, then when you top coat a hawk full goes miles, there for it will trowel up faster, also you took of the light fitting cover (to keep it clean) but that exposed live wires, I also unscrew the pendant lower it down a couple of inches put the cover back on then you only have to work around the wire, it's safer and easier, also the new plaster called fast set is a game changer, it totally works from mixing to final trowel in 1 hour 40 mins, good for a bedroom ceiling but not for an akward set,
Just turn the breaker off for the fixture before you start to work. If I need light I use lights plugged into another are not on that breaker, or my battery supplied lights. It really doesn't take much time to do a room this size if you're not producing an instructional video. But we all have our ways.
Eat CARROTS. 😂😂
Your totally amazing not many people I asked would do this, I thought all the good old guys had passed, but your leading the way big thanks for what your doing 🤗
that information about smaller trowel because of pain in wrist, very important to me thanks for that. i learned to skim left hand as i have pain in right one, so now using right hand only sometimes, most of the time i do skim left hand.
Not a plasterer but I could.not think of a better teacher brilliant video gets a like from me
Stay out the angle on your first pass I'd the best plastering tip I've ever heard 👍 rookie here and angles I find hardest
Simple no fuss plastering. Great channel 👏
I always add a bit of bonding in skim. Makes a nice fluffy mix, and goes over artex a treat.
Just started out myself and starting to work for a plasterer soon. The way you explain the process is brilliant. Cheers Kirk
Hi ,nice work , a plasterer one could take home to mother , a 3 cup of tea man . Any one for cakes . Well done and no mess .🤔👍👍👍👍👍
What an amazing skill you have, thanks for all the films, love watching them, more to the fact - love watching highly skilled tradepeople, taking time and doing a professional job.
Thanks - new to plastering after having recently
completed British Gypsum’s skim course and love your clear, simple (that’s a compliment) approach, advise and lovely calm work. Thanks!
Brilliant!! No more scraping artex off!!
That's exactly how I do my edges even with skirtings makes going round edges trowelling up so much more faster 👍
I'm not a plasterer but just love the way this man explains on how to do the job and the best and proper way to do this, good video as usal 😊👍👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Lovely job Kirk. Superb video as always. Thank you.
Very welcome
You are a true craftsman of your trade. I wish you lived near me in Scotland.
Your a good lad. I look forward to your videos, you never disappoint with top tips coming thick and fast👍
Nice one Dave, glad you liked it mate
That was a great lesson in plastering I’m a joiner who does plasters because l can’t always wait for the plasterer to be available and be fair l quite enjoy it and wanted to get a speed skim so thanks mate
Glad to help.
Good job my son! I always give an artex ceiling a scrape first- the flatter the better to start with. I normally bang the first coat on as fast as possible and flatten it after it’s all on. A speedskim is handy as long as the room is virtually empty. Like you say, leave the first coat to go pretty firm before the 2nd. It’s easy to try to rush so be able to finish by lunch… On the odd occasion I would use a zombie mix but that would only be if the artex is particularly deep or uneven.
There is one crucial thing you missed out… you MUST wear safety glasses. I know from experience by being nearly blinded in one eye due to chemical burns. I always have safety glasses on now.
Ppl will choose their ppe at their will . He's an experienced master at his trade and is giving informative advice out to the world. Does every car advert tell you to look left and right before changing lanes. Their is risk in everything, plus glasses steam up and you can't see
I totally agree with you about the safety glasses It really isn't something you think about And you shouldn't have to wait until you get a drop in the eye But yes some people do wait until that happens I'm afraid The first thing I do when I walk into the room is put on my safety glasses Like you wouldn't think should I put my safety belt on when you get in the car you just automatically do it
What's a zombie mix?😅
Hiya mate great video. I’m 35 and have been plastering for 18 years. Seriously impressed by your tidiness, especially when skimming over artex. 👌
Cheers for that mate, thank-you
Your an excellent spread! I use a similar technique to straighten stuff but rarely overskim artex due to risk of delamination. I think your edge technique is excellent for cleanliness which is something I have always struggled with, I named myself flick when I was doing bigger stuff but really want to get to dropping nowt so I enjoy the smaller domestic jobs, a lot of my work in my twenties was massive barn conversion stuff so it was more about being able to get it on in one or hang off a tower, the mess often didn't matter
Cheers Leon. In just working on a quick video for overboarding ceilings. Think you will enjoy it mate
it's interesting how i tend to do all my plastering how you do artex, i don't tend to rush my second coat as i don't think it gains me any time rushing it on, it sets when it wants. oh and i love using a refina plaziflex to put on my second coat. thanks for the effort and info
Finally just watched mate. Fantastic close up shot testing the plaster for the next stage! Definitely appreciate all those extreme close-ups!
It's only because of you that I do it. Thinking about it though, it's a very important bit of the video so I'm glad you made me aware of it
@@Onthetrowel haha thank you mate. That is kind of you! Hope they’re not too much of a pain in the arse to film 🙈
Brilliant , absolutely beyond my skill but I loved watching it
Great tip about the light bulb
Again Kirk, another great video. Loving the little tips you keep throwing in. This is exactly how my artex ceilings are done. Not cuz I know what you know, but rather than I'm not on the trowel daily and a lot slower putting on so it picks up a lot more by the time I 2nd coat 🤣. Be good to see a larger ceiling filmed and how to do a rolling set or just to be able to manage timing a little more for us slower plasterers/ multi's.
Leave it with me Dale. I'll get one sorted 👍
Hi i have just found your videos and have to applaud your excellent service on explaining how to do the jobs ,you make it so easy to follow and the tips you give are great ,so thankyou and keep up the great videos
Gray it's a pleasure to have you on board mate. Thanks for the nice comment and if there's anything you ever want to know or want an answer then jus reach out in the comments mate 👍
I've been watching your vids and you are a master of your craft, gave loads of tips and made me want to have a go myself, thanks kirk 👍 😊
Great tip to keep edges clean 👌 thanks
No problem mate
First time finding your channel, mint tip applying slightly away from the wall, and touching in with some excess after to keep the walls emaculate. Nice work 👌
Cheers James. Hope you're subscribed my man 👌👍
first time I've found your channel and this was a really good commentary - a lot of what you said rings very true for me. :)
I was surprised you didn't prime it with PVA - saved me a step there :)
Oh no mate I sealed it with sbr.
You can't plaster straight on without a sealer
I’m a decorator, I’m going to start sending your videos to the plasterers down London 😂 I’ve had to skim a lot of work over with filler because of wavy finishes, sand of mixing splatters 🤦♂️ this guy not got one drop on the wall! Not many top notch plasterers like this around these days!!
Exactly the same for me, one day they'll have to paint what they've laid.
Brilliant lesson 👍
Great videos, Always learn something new from them.
Cheers Dom 👍
These guys work for their money.
Excellent video mate make it look so easy no stress 😂 💪
I’m a diy plaster and have done my own houses, the house I’m in now was artex up stairs. The joists were so up and down, I added a quarter bag of bonding to the first coat to help get over it. Scary when you think of the weight your putting up there when it’s near 8mm thick in places 🙄😂. Your videos are very good mate 👍
Cheers Richard
Mate that’s a awesome advice on how to skim artex ceiling
Once I’ve second coated it I run a flexy trowel over it absolute game changer I find
It’s also my go to trowl when easi filling that apart I’m a marshal man I’m defo gonna invest in a extension pole for my speed skim saves getting the stilts out till the final trowl
Another great video Kirk
Great video Kirk mate you made it look easy
Get yourself and the lad a beer on me! ;-) Gave this dark art a go today with my boy - started with an Artex ceiling. Not recommended, but got there in the end thanks so much for sharing your knowledge Kirk!
Thanks for the tip, very much appreciated. Sorry I only just noticed, I would of thanked you sooner 🙂🍻
No worries Kirk! @@Onthetrowel
Some nice tips ,will try that tomorrow when I do cieling.
Let me know how it goes Jose
So satisfying!
Nice neat job mate 👍
very good work kirk ! the speedskim looks a great bit of kit !
It's a great bit of kit mate. I've popped a link to it in the description aswell if anyone wants one
Great video! Really learnt a lot from this one!!!
Thanks, you gave me a good idea
Another good video mate. I like to mix bonding in to my 1st coat, thickens up your first coast of multi/ board finish so it covers the ceiling without having high spots showing through. Depending on how thick the artex is depends on how much bonding I’ll add. Never had any problems with it. It dose hang around for a while though as it’s a little thicker. Gives you time to prep your next set or have a cuppa 😊
Good shout mate, I am going to do a video on this soon, just trying to work my way through the plastering topics in a sort of methodical way.
Cheers for your support mate
I do the same 2-3 handfuls of bonding
I do the same , but when you go over it with multi it goes on really nice
How far south do you go mate, I’m from Reading and I’ll go as far north as wallingford. Doesn’t seem to be too many plasterers from Caversham and upwards
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Hi pal, I’ve done a few jobs in Reading, I’m 10mins away from Wallingford.
Another great vid. I personally enjoy artex ceilings, I usually do a magic mix first coat, leave it a good 35/40 mins, then whip around with multi and if there’s any left I’ll go back round with a really right pass. Has a few jobs where even when it seems I’ve got the first coat flat, when I flatten the second coat I seem to have bumps and hollows, so now I just generally allow enough for worst case a tight third coat
Spot on, nothing wrong with that mate.
Hey what's the magic mix??? I'm well intrigued?
@@Onthetrowel cheers mate nice one. I learned it off RUclips, depending on how bad the artex pattern is, you put some bonding or hardwall in the first coat of multi finish, gives it some body to really get over any reasonable stipples etc. only issue is it takes so long to go off enough to second coat
Lovely job.
Thank you very much Mr Cole 😉👍
I wish this video was a couple days earlier I had a nightmare of a ceiling the other day artex wise This really could of come in handy 😂
Always the way Ash
Same as I do mine. Leave that first coat to pull right in then second coat easy.
I feel like id be able for a small patch job plastering if one ever came up,,only thing in i havent seen much of polishing or wet trowling videos and the paint brush for the edge other than that id fancy me self now as D.I.Y PLASTER NOW ,THANKS TO OUR KIRK FROM ROYAL FAMILEY😂❤❤
Don't start lurkio 😅🤣🤣
Any textured/ artex ceiling Pre 2000, could have Chrysotile Asbestos in the textured ceiling
Great vid as always useful tips
Glad to help
Great vid super tidy on the wall ceiling junction aswell I do wonder though how many people out there watch a professional spread like u ,Alex Morley or blain grey ( and u guys r skilled tradesmen) and think wow that looks easy I could do that and get themselves in to a right old state cos u guys do make it look easy but as I know it rearly isn’t it’s almost an art than a trade to do fine plastering
Impressive mate
exhalant video love watchin
I learnt to plaster with my dad, he worked as a plasterer in Liverpool as well. Most of the old plasterers knew each other in those days lol.
One of the things he used to tell me was as the plaster sets it gets warm and would soften the old artex. Causing it to pull away. He taught me to leave the first coat as long as possible as well.
Also quite often he would use a half/half mix bonding and board finish for the first coat. He used to say it would help it stick. With modern plasters I don't think this is always necessary any more but still do it from time to time.
Great channel a lot of the things you mention is just like listening to my dad talking about how to do things.
Lovely comment, I enjoyed reading that. Cheers mate
You are the man ....
Gonna give this a go on Monday I've got a 4 bag ceiling on artex so let's hope I'm up to it. might have to get myself a speedskim. Spot on video again bud and all my joints are shot just have a few rums when I'm home sorts them out
I know the feeling mate. There's a link for same speedskim as mine in the description.
What rum do you drink?
@@Onthetrowel dead man's finger or kraken or what the other half as bought for me. Will have a look at the speedskim just a bit stuck in my ways I was taught with a solid trowel but I need to start entering the new age. Great video again
Great video ;)
Hi hope all are happy n well.
Great vid as usual 👌
I Mix a bit of bonding with multifinish for my first coat. Put it on thick but not too thick. Flatten it with a speedskim both ways & Leave it for no less than 40 mins.
On the 40th minute, I put on my second coat & finish off as you usually would.
Sealing it a day before helps a lot.
Great tip!
@@Onthetrowel nice1 Bro 👊🏽💀🖤
@On the trowel apparently they call it a " Magic Mix " 🤷🏽 the bonding mixed with the Multi
Excellent tutorial and a sub for being just so likeable 😆
🤣🤣 Cheers mickey
I feel a silly goose now. I scraped off the artex or just put new plaster boards up in my entire home. The artex was thick and awful. Never once thought I could skim over it for fear of it dropping af in clumps. Good game sir
Joiner here no idea why I’m watching this video but I enjoyed it.
Young plasterer we had on a kitchen skimmed a ceiling before and when we came in the next morning it was on the floor…
Felt sorry for the lad. It must have been painted with that stuff back in the day
no doubt mate. anything built before the 60's can potentially have it. anyway doesnt matter what trade you are, if your enjoying the videos then get subscribed mate
I now always use Crown Xp3 primer to seal bad ceilings the day before to stop delamination. Would be interesting to see how SBR compares.
I have always used PVA , mixed 3 Parts water to 1 part PVA , I roller on and brush on ( edges ) then, go and mix multi - finish plaster, then if dried out ei: very hot weather I give a second coat of PVA. before starting the first coat of plaster , as the ceiling should feel tacky/sticky before starting. As most ceilings are white I find it helpful to add a small amount of dye to the 3 to 1 mix of water and PVA , I use the red or blue chalk from Toolstation/ Screwfix for use with a chalk line , or any mortar dye ,just stir in , just add a little at a time , don’t overdo it !!! It’s only so you can easily see where you applied the PVA ,
When I did all my house I gave the ceilings a coat of 3 to 1 PVA the night before , and one in the morning before skimming, never had any problems, Lounge -diner has been done 27 years now and still perfect . Hope this helps 👍
Got an artex ceiling to do, will try this out!
Let me know how you get on mate
Worked like a dream mate! Spot on advice 👍🏼
@@cloudyeastside nice one mate
Subscribed!
Yesss! Another video. Been waiting for another mate!
How are you my mate, as a little surprise I'm going to drop another video in about 30 mins when it'd uploaded.
Nice to hear from you Marcus 😀😀
@@Onthetrowel excellent news buddy! I caught your video as it had uploaded 34 seconds ago… I feel like a stalker now 🤣
@Marcus 🤣🤣
If I had 10,000 Marcus's I could hang the trowel up and be a full time youtuber 🤣
@@Onthetrowel You'll definitely get there buddy!
@Marcus cheers mate.
To be honest, I just enjoy making the video's. My little way of making sure I'm around for a long time 🤣
Well done Kirky, nice one as always. Your side kick is getting better with the camera. Zooming in on the right stuff now haha. Pity he breaks speedskims though
Ha cheers Ry. Oh he loves it, holds my phone to film me but got his phone in the other hand checking his Instagram messages 🙈🤣
Great little video and some top tips. Easy question, would you normally use bonding or go straight on with hard-wall/finish plaster ?
Thanks
Great video thanks! What pva mix did you use and did you pva the day before?
Hi Kirk, can you put bonding on first then 2 coats of multi-finish. If so, how soon can you put multi-finish on the bonding. Also can you bond it one day and skim it the next. Or what about mixing bonding with multi-finish for the first coat, if so what ratio. Perhaps you can do a video answering these questions so others can get to know the answers. Great videos. I love to see that you have new videos in my suggestions. It's funny, when watching people like you, you kind of feel that you know them personally and its just a mate giving you advice and tips. Keep them coming and have a great weekend
Hi I do a lot of ceilings and used to put bonding on first, but have stopped. I think when the ceiling if basically flat it’s ok to do that because the bonding doesn’t go on very thick, so there’s not a lot of weight hanging it from the ceiling. However if the ceiling is very unflat or the artex is a heavy pattern, by the time you have filled hollows and then skimmed there’s too much gear hanging and it can come down even after it’s set. I have just walked from a job today because not happy about skimming over the heavy pattern, hence why I online now😂… so I either add some bonding to the skim on the first coat or just skim but I always push an over board. The customer today didn’t want to pay for the overboard and I don’t want to take the chance of it coming down. I not sure if pva itself can cause artex to peel .. with sir I am not sure how long you can leave it before it has to be skimmed…so I just go for the overboard now
Do you fix your overboards with dab or screw them into the ceiling? I just thought if its just dabed on wouldnt that just add to the weight pulling onto the existing ceiling and risk it still coming down? @@joeblogs8204
Superb video mate. Just a quick question to ask if I may. I have a Artex ceiling that I want to cover, is quite thick like a merengue. It’s newly done jn last 10 years by previous owner. Would you suggest boarding or skimming? Thanks.
Great tip for laying on the edges neater… il be trying this out 👍🏼
THanks great video! - Is it a must to apply a layer of PVA for the finishing plaster to bond properly? Thanks.
the speed skim clamp i use greenhouse bolts as they wont rust because they're aluminium
Ahh good shout. I like it.
Next house I work on that has a green house 😁😉
Gaz's Magic Mix works a treat over artex.
Have you got a link for this mate?
@@Onthetrowel 50/50 bonding and multi mixed just bulks it out a bit to get over the thickness bud
You talk about how nice it is to plaster over an artex ceiling because the first coat makes it like finishing on board ..... Well I'm sure your Dad will have tole you - Back in the day, ALL of our finishing was Three-coat ... Steel Float - Wooden Cross-Grain - Steel Float .... Made finishing Sooo comfortable - No bubbles, No Tiger-Stripes - And a marble-like finish every time ..... We had Thistle Board, Statite & Siraphite back then ..... Up to 1976 when the really HOT summer frightened the Less-Experienced To-Death .... So they developed Multi-Finish which hung about a bit longer but came with those problems most plasterers get these days .... Because when it 'goes' it GOES! ... Statite & Siraphite could always be brought back with a splash of water and the cross-grain 'if' you did let it get AWAY from You ..... Those were the days EH?? .... OH! and we only had the 12" Steel Trowels back then .... And STILL got a RAKE of area covered daily 🤠
Lovely reading all that, thanks for taking the time to write it out.
This is why I am doing these videos, I wish the I had videos of the older generations doing the job.
Cheers Pete 😉👍
Siraphite 👍 I was only talking about that plaster with someone today, saying how nice it was to use. Shame they stopped making that.
Good one Pete. Yeah an old boy told me summat similar. Did it air dry then ?… rather than a chemical set?…
@@matthewgaler6544 Yes, it air-dried - quicker than lime - sometimes too quick - but it was always redeemable with a splash of water ...
Yes This Def was the answer for me today. Celling was so big I did not need half time added either. Great advice Kirk. Thanks for Email reply too. Respect
👊😎👊 Paul (Spraya)
Pleasure mate
Take care 🙂👍
Great video. Im a diy plasterer fixing up my own house and this video and you tips really help. Just 1 question, do you pva or sbr the ceiling first? Many thanks.
Yes mate, definitely.
And personally I always use sbr.
I use it neat
Hi m8, just watched thia video. Spotless work! How long do you leave bewtween mixing up the first coat and mixing up the second coat? Cheers
What speedskim would you recommend for someone who is a novice at plastering. There a number of speedskims (flexible,semi flexible etc). Many thanks.
Appreciate the tip on the speedskim clamp and the explanation of limewash(wish I knew that a year ago...).
This ceiling looked shiny, gloss paint? Did you PVA or SBR? I researched the video to make sure I didn't miss that aspect but can't see it. Cheers
I only use SBR mate 👍
Glad you liked the tips 👌👌
Good job, l need to plaster my ceilings but although l have plastered ceilings in my past l have 2 large ceilings that when my house was artexed it looks very bad my lounge you can see were the boards join and thay are in line so you can see them, ceiling in my bedroom it looks as if they cut out a large section to get up in the loft this ceiling is as bad as it gets with what looks like nail heads that were not hit in so l have lots of lumps all over the ceiling plus the board joins were they never smoothed out the tapes. before l retiered l was a finishing foreman for 30 years
I use fast set multifinish . Cheaper like buy half time pack .
Thanks for sharing
Artex can contain asbestos , by skimming over it you are hiding it potentially from someone in the future, therefore over boarding is a better option , ive also found cracks you might not spot until after its been skimmed , another good reason for overboarding
Think if your overbearing it then your still hiding the artex mate
@@Onthetrowel and putting more weight on the joists
How’s your shoulders matey.had to pack up as mine buggered.you lucky lad you
Great easy to follow video mate, what about artex in an ensuite bathroom only small area probably 1.5m x 2m and is their anything that you would recommend to remove spots of mould first
Just check how well the artex is stuck on mate. Don't worry about the mould spots, wipe them off first and skim it. Once it's plastered in ut will die because it needs air
I always apply two coats of uni bond to stop sucking in two quick on first coat
I'd like to add that this is totally different too house bashing on a site where it's crash bang wollop outer there lol boarding and skimming 3 bed flats in 2 days 😂😂😂
Love your videos mate.just curious do you need to pva the ceiling before first coat? Cheers mate 👍👍
Yes mate definitely. Or use SBR like I do but you will need to seal it one way or another 👍