Attempted kidnapping happend a few years ago at a store while I was there. I was young so just froze and watched this woman snatch up a kid and run for the exit. This older man in a wheelchair cuts her off and bulldozes her into a shelf, gets up out of the chair, and beats her till cops arrive and have to restrain him. That was the kids grandfather who didn't know the kid and his mother were there, and didn't even recognize the kid at first and still stoped the kidnapping. Can't belive people don't act like that grandfather and instead are racist and sexist against anyone for any reason
Yah plus the fact they tried berating ops wife saying she shouldn't let her kid run then when she revealed she's married to the man they are claiming tried to kidnap the kid they go even more crazy and then claim she's not the mother 😂
Also, she didn't try to find the mother or talk to management (which she could have done without grabbing the child), SHE tried to run out of the store with him. Something was wrong with her.
#1: Any way to get the kid off the plane peacefully without disturbing others further is what they should do. His mother isn't raising him, so why should they?
On my country a similar case happened, a kid refused to lock the safety belt, the plane crew asked the father to do it, he refused too and both finally were taken out of the plane, the flight got delayed one hour nevertheless....sometimes people are impossible, and yes, I know that kids with certain mental conditions can refuse the most mundane things, even that Is no excuse, parents fault either for refusing to parent or take the requiered precautions
The cop on the flight isn't concerned with parenting but rather getting things on track ASAP, it was the parent's responsibility to parent. He's NTA for using de-escalation to get the plane in the air.
Agreed! It's not a random airport cop's job to teach a kid manners or be an effective parent, it is his job to get people safe and help the plane get in the air. If a Snickers bar was the best and quickest way to achieve that, then I'm glad he thought of it
Yeah this exactly. The fact so many people got pissed off because the kid was bribed with candy like dudes.. pick and choose your battles for crying out loud. This is neither the time nor the place to be trying to instruct a literal child having a meltdown because their parent is having a meltdown. They're already going to see the consequences, as many already pointed out, watching their parent be arrested and them getting separated from said parent, potentially placed in foster care, all of which is already incredibly traumatic for any child. Bribing them with a snickers to get the kid moving so they can file and process and make phone calls and arrests while getting the plane moving as quickly as possible is their job. Not escalating an already awful situation involving a child in order to teach the kid a lesson. They need that kid to trust them so they can place him in safer hands with as little fuss and injury to the kid as possible. They will NOT get that kid to trust them if they drag him out kicking and screaming.
Final Story - OP and his wife handled that better than I would’ve because old lady or not you touch my child and try to run away with them you’re getting tackled. I hope that those three old bags were permanently banned from that store.
@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190 Dang, I heard this story here a couple of years ago and I was hoping this retelling would have a juicy update. I figured the 3 ladies were part of a human trafficking ring because of how conveniently they backed each other up even when shown evidence of being mistaken.
i heard storys like this and most of the time the cops just go with the lies and hole familys end up broken do to it. plus there is one guy who end up in jail when some one say they seen him driving and that he have walk into the store hitting his own son. when the guy the cops find did not even do a thing and was just about to check out when the cops got there. He if i am remembering right, is still trying to get his son back and more.
i remember there being a comment when it was read by a different channel before the updates that this was some form of child trafficking it was just someones theory though
Okay to be clear, the Karens in the last story were not trying to do good. Their motives were entirely about their own self absorbed racism. They didn’t care about the child at all, they cared about hurting the step father, at least assuming this recounting is accurate and, sadly, given the state of the nation and my own personal experiences I have no reason to believe it isn’t.
It's truly messed up that I know, for certain, that if the child looked black or Hispanic and the dad was a white man, they wouldn't even look twice. My daughter is mixed but she looks like a light skinned black girl and I'm white. All the racist weirdos I run across just ask why I adopted a black kid. I glare and growl, "I gave birth to her."
As a man I get dirty looks taking my kids to the store to get groceries or necessities, but a woman can walk up to a random child take them away and no one would bat a fucking eye. Let's normalize fathers being able to ship with their kids without judgment
Karen apparently has never heard of adopted, step, and foster children. I’m Chinese my husband is white. Our kids are obviously mixed race both show Asian features. My husband is a teacher. Once at a school event he’s holding our 2 yo son and a student of his, 6th grader, asked him if he knew the boy he was holding. My husband was like, I’d better, he’s my son. The student said he couldn’t be because he looks nothing like my husband. Then I walk over. My husband graciously replies, because he looks like his mom. According to my husband’s parents, our son looks like an asianized version of him at that age. My MIL has gotten similar reactions when showing off pictures of the grandkids.
At least that kid was only 11. I don't know how long it's been since this happened, but I sure hope that kid grows up to cringe at the inappropriate thing they said to your husband.
I am from califorinia. I seen all sorts of mixes. Although in missouri, I ran into a white and asian couple with their two sons. They acted like I was going to say something to them. But I had no idea what they excepted. It wasn't the first time I seen that mix before. It would not be the last. Then I got to thinking it must be because the midwest is still anti mixes. Which actuactly culture shock me that was still the case
My Caucasian sister married a guy that’s half black half Hispanic (but you can’t tell he’s Hispanic except his last name 🤭 lol). And they have two adorable kids who don’t look black or white (they took after their father’s Hispanic side 😉 lol) They also adopted a little Hispanic girl and a black boy. *I love my nieces and nephews!* ❤️
Not to mention that genetics can produce varied results, especially if one or more parent is mixed race. There's a set of twins where one girl is a pale-skinned red-head with blue eyes and the other is black. Both their parents are mixed race. Their mother looks more black than their father.
Story 4: The updates to this story were bittersweet. Karen basically got off with 0 consequences (few hours community service), due to who she is related to. OP said it was revealed she had done things like that before, and it was shown in court the psycho Karen had seen and targeted OP and his son since they arrived at the parking lot. She had entered the store to follow them. Judge did give them an earful tho, according to OP, but it can hardly be called justice. OP didn't pursue in civil court because he was in the process of moving states and didn't want to subject his little guy to any more of that. Can't say I blame him
I thought this story seemed unfinished and the end still upsets me. Wasn't it her son or nephew that was a somewhat high ranking cop or was close personal friends with his supervisor which was high up in the ranks?
An earful? Dude, if you're the judge, and she's been convicted, then give here something she will actually regret, a prison sentence. Words won't do squat because it was clearly shown in this story that she didn't have the capacity to listen to someone who was stating facts.
Story 3: Being obnoxious, insulting OP, and not even being subtle in attempting to dine and dash. Sounds like it's not the first time they've pull this stunt, because they were pretty bold
Well, now they will only be able to do it from the golden arches, though they probably will not be going there as customers, but instead to fill out application forms.
Story 3 - I hope the manager was fired for his incompetence and stupidity. As for those two dine and dashers… Serves Them Right. Getting arrested, getting expelled, now they both have a criminal record… LOL! They got what they deserved.
Sounds like OP would have been better off getting another job. I mean seriously, a restaurant where the bill goes up into the thousands and he barely pays his waitstaff minimum wage and treats them like garbage, and would stick them with the bill for the customers crimes. I'd be taking notes until I had enough to sink them and spread it around the media what a horrible place the restaurant was to work at.
For the people complaining about the cop not hauling the boy off the plane, I can already see the news headline in that alternate timeline: "Police Officer roughly manhandled a young child off of plane and out of airport. Karen mother sues for excessive force against a minor."
@@phoenixflamegames1 Yep once a neighbor sued his neighbor because his dog "barked the same decibels as a running jet engine". Man tought judge would see it as obvious complete bs and thus did not show up. He lost and had to sell pretty much EVERYTHING (including house) to pay that neighbor.
@@Some_Guy_6sad but true, my parents were sued for towing a car which had been parked for over a week despite there being signs posted. My dad took pictures of the sign and the evidence that the car hadn’t been touched. They still lost.
Oh yes, three old lady child traffickers who don’t know when to cut and run before the police get involved. That seems much more more likely than three old ladies who are crazy and racist 🙄
Story 4: Oof, the racism card when accusing OP of kidnapping. I feel bad for parents that have to deal with that s**t. Not everyone in the family has the same skin tone, it doesn't mean they aren't related
Even still, step parents and adoption are a thing, you don't need to have the same skin tone to be a step parent or adopt a kid. There is literally no excuse besides racism for all three of those women.
My fiancée son has an olive skin tone, while his is a lighter skin tone, but everyone can clearly see they are father and son. I hope I don't run into this issue when I'm out and about with my future bonus child.
@@Darke_Exelbirth Often women like that are ACTUALLY kidnappers. They kidnap kids much more often then men (but it gets less shown in the news). And often get away with it because they "look more innocent".
I've heard that last story before and it just...it boils my blood every time I hear it. Like, adoption is a thing, that Karen was just being crazy and racist. WTF Lady.
Even if you're blood related and the same colour and male you'll get either dirty looks or someone will say "you're kidnapping the kid" even though it's yours. BTW this has happened to my brother multiple times over the years
@@England91 Yeah, it's happened to me and my daughter twice. Both times it was old biddy caucasian ladies - but only one ever tried to physically touch my daughter. She got as far as an inch away, when I was holding my the nearly 2 year old, then screamed like a banshee when I grabbed her arm to stop her.
Almost assuredly this was like a fantasy come true for them. They’ve hyped themselves up for an imagined hero moment where they would save a child from being abducted by “one of them” and being celebrated on the local news and facebook for their quick reaction that saved the child from untold suffering. Of course reality is that there was no abduction other than the one they themselves committed and they now look like racist asses. They make a desperate bid to double down hoping somehow their righteous will be proven, but it only makes it worse.
American capitalism at its worst. Proud to be British where we abolished slavery first and our restaurants pay staff an actual wage where tipping is optional and not expected
Agreed. The fact that her husband stated that “she just wants to be a bitch today,” tells me that she has a tendency to pull crap like this on purpose.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that was her plan. I've heard more than a few stories of customers trying to claim something happened that didn't just so they could insist "The employees screwed up, so I should get my order for free!"
I am Native American and my daughter is half Black, we didn't look like we belonged to each other at first glance, but if you can look past the skin color and really look, she looks just like me, same eyes, same mouth, same nose, same body type, of course her hair was different. She truly was my mini me. I hate it when people only focus on something so stupid like skin color. Ignorance is not bliss, it's stupid and dangerous!
Last story: Kudos to OP and his wife for keeping calm enough to not risk assault and battery charges. Were I in that situation, I would be throwing hands. Possibly more, depending on the aisle.
#1 - Damn. The police cannot win for losing. Either someone is ticked off that they bribe a kid with a candy bar to quietly just get off the stupid plane, or they are castigated all over the internet for just grabbing the brat and dragging him off - kicking and screaming. They took the quicker and less of two evils just to get people on their way. Save the 'how to parent' children lecture for the actual parents!
My wife is the one that gets all the accusations of not her kids, babysitter, etc. All of the kids take strongly after my side. Her favorite is when after being told that they're her kids, they go "are you sure?" 🤦🏼♂️
I was asked "Are you sure?" in reply to "Is that your father?" after I said "No, my best friend who is 10 days older than me is not my father". Like yes, I'm pretty sure someone who is 10 days older than me is not my parent. And then five minutes later someone assumed he was my girlfriend. 🤦
Story 4: I hope those *EVIL* women were convicted to the maximum extent of the law. The main arse hurt and kidnapped a child and the two others made up lies in order to help, they sicken me.
Last story - Always press charges. Because without a criminal record the next time it will be someplace without cameras and some plausible story like someone assaulted them, and the cops might believe them.
I'm Chinese and my SO is hispanic, so our son is mixed. He has my SO's complexion, but my asian facial features. I've been told that he looks just like me, but whenever we're out with my SIL, strangers always assume that she is the mother purely because of their similar skintones. When I was crossing the HK/China border to visit relatives several years ago, with my son strapped to me in his baby carrier, we were stopped by officers and our bags searched. My mum, who was with us and was outraged at being stopped because I wasn't carrying anything illegal or did anything wrong, was convinced that they stopped us because my son and I have different skintones, but they did let us go when they saw that my suitcase had literally nothing except baby items (my personal items were in my dad's suitcase, who had been allowed through customs). The officers only decided to stop my mum and search her luggage as well because she was yelling at them for being unreasonable, so who knows why they really stopped me.
I understand it's annoying to you, and im sorry for that. But "Hey, that kid doesn't look like anyone in that group; let dubble check that" is genuinely a good thing.
You triggered the stop because of the baby items. Lots of little granule and liquid looking things, so people commonly use them to smuggle drugs. They would've taken a swab and processed it while they were still taking stuff out of the bag. It happens a lot if you travel often with one kid.
I used to work in a 24/7 cafe on a college campus. Not all of the customers were college students as some people stopped in on their way home from work, but most were college kids. Obviously on Friday and Saturday nights we're going to be the busiest that we are all week, and many people will order online. So we had an online order rack for online pickups or for doordash drivers. And this was when there were still heavy covid restrictions so we could only let about 30 people inside at one time and had security guards at the doors to let people in and out. One guy was waiting outside for about 10 minutes and left, and came back 45 minutes later when we were slower (security guards recognized him when he did come back). He had an order on the online order rack for over 45 minutes, grabbed it, and came back 5 minutes later complaining it was cold. So our supervisor even knowing what happened told him "I'm sorry about that, let me remake it for you." So she remade everything and it was so hot you had to use tongs to get it into his box that she then puts in the bag. He takes it, and 5 minutes later comes back in saying it's still cold and accuses her of just putting the same order back in his bag and demands a refund. She tells him "No. I won't be giving you a refund, but I can walk you to the back to prove to you it was in fact remade. I can also show you when you left without coming inside, nearly an hour ago, that your original order was already sitting on the online order rack."
@@karencotlar2023 yep. My one grandma once tried to get every single employee of that restaurant fired....because she was denied free food as "compensation" for, get this, being denied free food. And by "every" I literally mean all the way up to the franchisee. Needless to say when I turned 18 I was always mysteriously busy during family dinners out.
First off: they way to hell is paved with good intentions. Secondly absolutely disgusting what those women did. I hope they get the maximum punishment when it came to the court proceedings.
People who behave like the woman in story 2 and believe there's nothing wrong with it, I highly recommend you watch the movie, "Waiting." Like FLUFF said, "Don't upset people dealing with your food."
Story 4: I feel so bad for the 4 year old. He's gonna remember that for sure. The bruises won't help either. At least he doesn't understand the racism of the situation yet.
My BIL is Indian and watched my white son a lot. I can't even tell you the number of people who have given him weird looks. He literally told me he keeps a picture of my kid on his phone so people don't think he kidnapped him. Like society sucks and what if the kid was adopted? The kid may not match the parents race.
@@JamesDavy2009 Oh yeah, because being a southern boy would be SO much better right? :/ Unless you mean you're not American, in which case, understandable, but even still.
Who knows. As a teenager in a locker room I had a bunch of people claim to have seen genitals I don't have all because one person thought I didn't belong in there.
@@heatherheather600 yep, I was terrified in the moment (I was literally being pushed into the corner by someone's naked body while they screamed at me to stop touching them and stay away, like it's kinda hard to not touch you when you are leaning on me), and later pissed that not only did no one came to my aid, but they actively lied about what had happened. Unfortunately I couldn't even tell me parents because they would just punish me for putting myself in that situation.
Story 4: Unfortunately, I witnessed a similar incident while working at Wal-Mart. Two older Karens, attempted to abduct a biracial couple's (husband white, wife black) newborn son. They falsely claimed that the child was too pale to be theirs and that he was their granddaughter, whom they alleged had been aken a few days prior. It was established that these women had been following the couple with the intent to kidnap the child, leading to their arrest. During the criminal trial, they sought an insanity defense to escape the charges. The judge committed them to a mental institution until they could be deemed mentally stable. One thing I should add to this is both Karens had once beforein the week tried to take another couple's baby at a different store in town and had gotten away before the police could arrest them.
My wife tells a story about one of her trips to one of America's largest malls with our first-born when he was a toddler. As background, note that we as parents used time-outs frequently with our kids when they were acting out. They get like 30 seconds per year starting when they can walk. It's used only when they're having an unreasonable fit about something, not just normal sadness or whatever. It reduces their stimuli and gives them time to sit and calm down. This worked great, once the kids because accustomed to the process. Eventually, we rarely need to be get more than a few numbers into a countdown to timeout before the kid would suddenly calm down and start being reasonable again. No hitting, no yelling, just an implacable countdown to another, quieter countdown that they can exit just by calming down. Again, worked great. So back to the mall. My son was a toddler having a meltdown about something and my wife had put him in timeout. He was facing a wall, still crying, but my wife was at a bench nearby keeping an eye on him waiting for him to calm down. Some random woman walks up and start cooing at our son and comforting him. My wife audibly tries to warn her off and tells her that he's in a timeout and to leave him alone. The stranger keeps going, though, and soon is helping him up and getting him to walk away. Our son has realized he's not with Mom anymore and has started to urgenly pull away from her. My wife turns into Mama Bear and roars "GET AWAY FROM MY SON!" It's amazing how fast security in a large mall will show up when they hear that. I don't remember the details about how it ended clearly, but I don't believe charges were pressed. Still, I suspect a valuable lesson was learned that day.
I recall looking into this story about the old lady trying to take the OP's kid. Apparently that nutcase actually had friends in high places, and got her charges heavily reduced. And the OP was furious that she essentially got away with it.
For story 1, it's one of the FEW times a cop shouldn't be getting the hate they are. It was a perfectly reasonable solution, the kid wasn't entirely being that entitled he was just being a kid, that the mom wasn't reining in appropriately. The Snickers bar wasn't necessarily a reward for the bad behavior, it was "if you cooperate you can have this thing that is a high-value reward (for a kid)" And no, not using it in the dog training sense, but more. "Kids like candy, kids will do things for candy, use candy as a reward to reinforce cooperation"
Ya, plus seeing his mom drunk and being arrested can be pretty overwhelming for a kid. He is dealing with a lot emotionally, of course he is going to act out. And you know, his mom was drunk. So that raises a lot of red flags.
@@agoddamnferret Oooooh. One equals "all these whatifs and whatabouts" (not actual words btw )? It's a hella big what if, though, potential allergy, these days. Seems like every other person is allergic to peanuts or all nuts now. One would have to be an idiot to offer something like that to a kid for ANY reason. And here's another what if since you seem so fond of them. What if the kid was diabetic and had to be on a strict diet? What the cops did in this instance was wrong. Period. They should have told him he could either walk off the plane on his own like a big kid or he could be carried off in zip ties like his mom.
Story 3: Now that’s karma because they TOTALLY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED 😂😂😂😂!!! Play very stupid games like that, win very stupid prizes like getting what those two got 😂😂😂😂!!!
Now with a criminal record they're going to find it tough when looking for "real" jobs and it'll be funny that they'll become servers the job they despise.
🤬🤬🤬 *HELL NO! Had that been one of MY sons and I got a call like that from my husband.. As soon as I got to the store, it would have been GAME OVER for the psycho!* *Most likely I would have caught a charge as well.. but it's a risk I would take! NEVER put your hands on one of my sons!*
Your right - he updates later she has a history of doing this to kids and being let go because she's related to law enforcement in that area. She only got another stint of community service for that, her THIRD, kidnapping charge.
Honestly on that last story I still believe to this day that those three ladies were trying to traffic the original poster's son because the fact that those two other ladies came to her aid and it was even shown in the update that the new the main lady that was trying to kidnap the original poster son pretty much shows that they might have had a trafficking scheme going on and especially since the main ladies nephew who was a sheriff was able to magically get her off the charges that she was facing jail time for it when she still should have gotten just because I hate to see it your family member is a sheriff shouldn't mean you shouldn't suffer the punishment you deserve but yet somehow he was able to magically get the judge to just put her down for community service which pretty much shows that this isn't the first time that they've done this but they're just not successful at it
I think that last story is yet another instance of someone refusing to admit that she was wrong, maybe with a touch of racism and arrogance thrown into the mix. Assuming it WAS a genuine mistake, it's an understandable enough one to make, but the moment she saw the little boy acting like OP's son, she should have dropped the whole matter. I mean, kids that young are pretty much the most guileless creatures on the whole planet - if he was actually afraid of OP, HE'D BE SHOWING IT.
It's not "a touch" of racism. It's full on KKKaren. These women are a step short of white robes and burning crosses. They honestly should have charged her with a hate crime.
Expensive restaurant story. Im sad about the fact the OP mentions how they get paid minimum wage and have to survive off tips but thats okay because the owner donates A LOT of money to the school. Yeah he does. He gets tax breaks on that money. They donate because it saves them money each year that they'd otherwise have to pay in taxes. The fact he donates so much means nothing compared to paying your employees minimum wage because you dont get tax breaks on that. The more employees you have, the more full time employees you have, the more you have to shill out due to labor and industry regulations. Like employee insurance and the like. Its not about being generous. Its a business tactic to save money.
The lying Karens who "saw the whole thing" and bore false witness against OP should ALSO spend some time in jail. Also, if they claim to be Christian or Jewish, they should be reported to their pastor/priest/rabbi for breaking one of the ten commandmends, "Thou shalt not bear false witness." It's not JUST lying. It's actually trying to frame a person for a serious crime.
If you suspect kidnapping, don't play vigilante. Contact law enforcement and/or local security and make a report. If you're wrong, it'll get cleared up with nobody getting hurt or in trouble. If you're right, tge correct authorities will handle it properly.
My wife and I and her family were visiting an Ikea in my hometown. At the top of the entry escalator was a small boy crying, looking around with the obviously lost expression of "I can't find mommy". I knelt down, said "hey buddy, can't find your mom?" he shook his head. I said "okay let's go over here and see if they can help you"... and we started walking towards the daycare/child watching area Ikea provides. A wild Karen appeared, hip checked me out of the way with a glare and snatching the boys hand shouted "LET'S GO FIND YOUR MOMMY!" I watched (slacked jawed) as she escorted/drug him the remaining 70ft to the employee at the child care admittance door. This was 10+ years ago and I still regret not saying anything. I'm sure I her mind she stopped "evil bad MAN" who was obviously trying g to kidnap that kid.
I’m sure the kid wasn’t rewarded. The candy bar was a tactic to move them off the plane quickly to not inconvenience the rest of the passengers and flight scheduled for that day. That’s his job, not to teach the kid life lessons. He was about to have a cancelled vacation and deal with the aftermath with airport security, it’s not like he’s really being rewarded
I've said it before and I'll say it again, these people go after men with children. Like a Dad can't be out with his kids alone or at least without spouse in sight, single Dad's don't exist, mixed race children or adopted children aren't an option apparently. It's sad but it seems to be that if a woman is running with a child screaming kidnapper/pervert/ect. when the Dad is running after her trying to get to his kid, people usually think the woman is the victim. Good thing security cameras exist I hope those women got charged to the full extent of the law.
The Karens trying to accuse the OP of kidnapping . I would be suing the Karens of causing emotional distress to the child and the parents. That poor little boy it had to have been very traumatic having a psycho woman try to take him away from his dad . And yes that was his stepdad but to him he is his daddy.
The last story is one he's covered before but my god it infuriates me just as bad the second time I hear it. My god what was even those other lady's reasoning? Were they in on it or were they just that delusional.
I'm sorry but working for minimum wage at a high end French restaurant where your boss is a total kiss ass to a-hole customers and is willing to fire you on the spot sounds like absolute *hell* to work in
This really freaks me out about the lack of worker protection in the US. That a server can get fired because customers dined and dashed. That’s insane.
That kid is going to be all kinds of screwed up by his mother's teachings. A police officer carrying him off the plane kicking and screaming one time won't teach him respect, but it's more than enough to make him hate police. Especially because she's going to talk crap about the police to him later that evening. Anything they did, she would have a hateful explanation for. I think the officer was smart to choose peace - it might plant the seeds of that kid not blindly trusting his mom, when she says they were horrible but that's the exact opposite of what he experienced.
Anyone else ever think these cases of karens trying to 'save' a kid from a kidnapping are just a cover for their own kidnapping and possible trafficking schemes?
FA's seats story: I don't know about the UK, but in the US that type of behavior could get you put on a no-fly list. As for the kid, the police didn't want to have to manhandle him and possibly get charged with abuse themselves. Haven't ordered story: I suspect she was angling for a major discount on the food and drinks, but her husband ruined her plans. I suspect this isn't the first time this has happened and this is just how the husband deals with her now. Dine and dash story: Too bad OP didn't know what program(s) those two were in the school for. I dearly hope it's something that any kind of criminal conviction, let alone a felony, disqualifies them for. I wonder if they wound up having to wait tables to make ends meet? Attempted kidnapping story: Given how coordinated those 3 were, I wonder if THEY were human traffickers?
Not gonna lie I have to give props to the Dad of the Feature Story. He kept himself in check in a situation that would have made other better people crack. and I have seen it way way to often. I have a close friend of my Family. He's African American and his Wife is as White as the Snow. She had a Daughter from a previous marriage and she and my friend loved this child to pieces. he used to take her everywhere with him when his wife needed some downtime. One Day he took her to Subway for Food. when this rude lady came in behind them. she was fusing and yelling to hurry up the line. the Little girl turned to the Woman and told her "Your not being very nice" my buddy tells me she stopped cold looking at her. She then saw my friend as he tapped her on the shoulder that it was their turn to order. he placed the order and they went to sit to eat. At one point he had to run to the Washroom and asked the Counter Guy to watch his Daughter. as he was coming out of the Restroom he heard an argument and a little girl screaming. Apparently the Crazy Witch got it in her head that the little girl had been kidnaped by a "Insert N Word" and she was going to save her and teach her proper manners. the Counter Guy had Blocked the door to stop her from getting out. Cops were called and the woman was arrested for attempted Kidnaping and child endangerment.... honestly I couldn't believe it at the time but the more I see of stories like this the more I get the feeling that people like this really freaking exist and I would hate to ever meet one in reality.
How you treat a child is entirely age dependent. A 6 year old who's mommy has told him to wait is different from a 16 year old who's just being an entitled brat. The cop got the kid off without the use of physical force - which is the first step to getting him somewhere safe [a plane, alone, is not safe for a young child]. The kid has to be managed while mommy is dealt with. No issue with bribing him with a snicker's bar if that's all it takes to make him co-operate.
She does. But when the wife shows her a picture of his actual grandmother, Karen says "Ok, sorry, he's not my grandson. I was just trying to protect him from this pervert."
fines should be percentages. in every instance. delaying a flight 10% of your earned income. you file taxes every year, should be used for more purposes than just owing the government money
Honestly on that dining dash story I think the original poster needs to report her manager because the fact that this guy is letting people get away with that could bankrupt the owners restaurant and I think that wouldn't be a good business for the owner to keep somebody like that around and I think when the owner of the restaurant comes in that's when the original poster really needs to speak to him about his bullshit behavior because I'm not going to lie if I own the restaurant and I found out one of my managers was being too much of a coward to do something about terrible customers I think we need that one loyal customer to stay open I would immediately fire their ass
Sadly, I think the manager was the owner. But OP should document everything that goes on there because I believe there are labor law violations being perpetrated.
Story 1, better to get the kid off the plane without drama-I’m sure the passengers were relieved. And forcefully removing a resisting child from an enclosed space has its own physical risks.
Story 4, and so many stories like it, are why I've stopped taking any accusations of crimes seriously without some solid evidence. Especially the lone woman from years ago suddenly appears type cases. Too many liars out there. Too many wanna be martyrs.
Story 4: I'm wondering if this is a possible kidnapping/trafficking scheme, non-threatening seeming women acting like saviours of children alone with single fathers to get them away from their fathers because in situations like this, the women are more likely to be believed and they can get away with the kids in the general confusion...
*Story 4-* My caucasian sister married a guy that’s half black half Hispanic (but you can’t tell he’s Hispanic except his last name). And they have two adorable children that don’t look black. (They took on their father’s Hispanic side) Also, they adopted a little Hispanic girl, and a little black boy. *I love all 4 of my nieces and nephews!!!* ❤️
Not the kid's fault his mother was entitled. As far as he knew at that age he was just doing what his mother told him that he was allowed to do. He isn't old enough to understand why that was wrong and it's not fair to punish him for his mother's poor choices. Just being her son is already punishment enough. So go ahead and give him a Snickers and have a talk with him about why his mommy was wrong for what she did.
The child in the plane story did nothing wrong. He was following his mother’s instructions. She was the one in the wrong. Why should the cops punish him for his mother’s actions and give him more trauma? Parenting and disciplining other people’s children isn’t their job.
How was he being punished? Should he have been left on the plane without Karen? She he have been allowed to stay in the FA’s seat? He was given a candy bar, for crying out loud. He was fine!
On the one hand it is nice that people are paying attention to what is going on around them and wanted to step in to help a child they thought had been kidnapped but that isn't how you go about doing it. The fact that the kid was being so friendly, happy, and allowed to move freely around the story would (to me) make it unlikely that the child had been abducted. Going by what you see in TVs and movies an adult who had abducted a child would usually keep the kid close by and the child is less likely to be that friendly to strangers.
Last story is a common kid napping process that usual works cause panic and confusion and run off with the kid that women wasnt "saving" anyone if she was then she would of gone to the staff not The door
Hi fluffy! Wow that last story sounds like what my parents & I went through many times when these "karens" claimed that we were not a family! My Dad was dark skinned and my Mom was light skinned and I'm an olive skinned (golden) girl.
Final Story: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't OP have a update saying that the crazy lady got off scott free because a relative of hers was a cop or something, I'm hope I am wrong about that because someone like that will only cause more trouble like that if she was let go without any consequences.
Every time i hear a father being accused as a kidnapper of their own child, I think of the one add where a woman and child run away from "creepy men" only for it to turn out the woman was the kidnapper and the men were following to save the girl. Abusers and kidnappers habe neither age, skincolour or sex in common. Period
Story 4 - I've seen this story before, but the last time, the crazy woman spent a lot more time making it clear that this was a racial issue. Everything she said was "this Mexican" this and "this Mexian" that.
The full version of story 4 has been in at least one other dark darkfluff video. The full version mentions that the kidnapper claimed to be the child's grandmother. I love how she got caught in that lie!!
Story 4: attempting to take my child would 100% be a death sentence.
I would not hold myself in too. Even if it's a strangers kid that gets taken by a kidnapper.
They were lucky that he was one of the few texans that didn’t bring a gun wherever he went
It indeed is. Would have been at the very least a trip to triage in the ER.
Attempted kidnapping happend a few years ago at a store while I was there. I was young so just froze and watched this woman snatch up a kid and run for the exit. This older man in a wheelchair cuts her off and bulldozes her into a shelf, gets up out of the chair, and beats her till cops arrive and have to restrain him.
That was the kids grandfather who didn't know the kid and his mother were there, and didn't even recognize the kid at first and still stoped the kidnapping.
Can't belive people don't act like that grandfather and instead are racist and sexist against anyone for any reason
The fact they ignored the childs pleas for his dad says a lot of the people around them.
Racism and sexism at its peak.
I mean, the fact their entire argument was based on his skin color should already show their entirely racist character.
Yah plus the fact they tried berating ops wife saying she shouldn't let her kid run then when she revealed she's married to the man they are claiming tried to kidnap the kid they go even more crazy and then claim she's not the mother 😂
It's racism, obviously
Also, she didn't try to find the mother or talk to management (which she could have done without grabbing the child), SHE tried to run out of the store with him. Something was wrong with her.
#1: Any way to get the kid off the plane peacefully without disturbing others further is what they should do. His mother isn't raising him, so why should they?
I just saw the "Oh, piece of candy!" Meme 😂
On my country a similar case happened, a kid refused to lock the safety belt, the plane crew asked the father to do it, he refused too and both finally were taken out of the plane, the flight got delayed one hour nevertheless....sometimes people are impossible, and yes, I know that kids with certain mental conditions can refuse the most mundane things, even that Is no excuse, parents fault either for refusing to parent or take the requiered precautions
I like how you thought to use "#1", I'll copy that very good idea. Thanks!
and we dont even get to know the estimated age of the kid so might been a 4 year old for all we know.
Plus the kid was following his egg donors instructions.
The cop on the flight isn't concerned with parenting but rather getting things on track ASAP, it was the parent's responsibility to parent. He's NTA for using de-escalation to get the plane in the air.
Agreed! It's not a random airport cop's job to teach a kid manners or be an effective parent, it is his job to get people safe and help the plane get in the air. If a Snickers bar was the best and quickest way to achieve that, then I'm glad he thought of it
@@cacogenicnonsense And the kid was probably overweight as well and the cop knew that a candy bar would help the situation.
Yeah this exactly. The fact so many people got pissed off because the kid was bribed with candy like dudes.. pick and choose your battles for crying out loud. This is neither the time nor the place to be trying to instruct a literal child having a meltdown because their parent is having a meltdown. They're already going to see the consequences, as many already pointed out, watching their parent be arrested and them getting separated from said parent, potentially placed in foster care, all of which is already incredibly traumatic for any child. Bribing them with a snickers to get the kid moving so they can file and process and make phone calls and arrests while getting the plane moving as quickly as possible is their job. Not escalating an already awful situation involving a child in order to teach the kid a lesson. They need that kid to trust them so they can place him in safer hands with as little fuss and injury to the kid as possible. They will NOT get that kid to trust them if they drag him out kicking and screaming.
@@cacogenicnonsenseyep, sometimes being hangry is the worst ever
Honestly, pick your battles.
The cop made the right choice to get the kid off the plane without creating a issue out of it
Final Story - OP and his wife handled that better than I would’ve because old lady or not you touch my child and try to run away with them you’re getting tackled. I hope that those three old bags were permanently banned from that store.
Sadly in the updates its revealed they faced literally no consequences
@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190 Damn it.😠
@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190 Dang, I heard this story here a couple of years ago and I was hoping this retelling would have a juicy update. I figured the 3 ladies were part of a human trafficking ring because of how conveniently they backed each other up even when shown evidence of being mistaken.
i heard storys like this and most of the time the cops just go with the lies and hole familys end up broken do to it. plus there is one guy who end up in jail when some one say they seen him driving and that he have walk into the store hitting his own son. when the guy the cops find did not even do a thing and was just about to check out when the cops got there. He if i am remembering right, is still trying to get his son back and more.
i remember there being a comment when it was read by a different channel before the updates that this was some form of child trafficking it was just someones theory though
Okay to be clear, the Karens in the last story were not trying to do good. Their motives were entirely about their own self absorbed racism. They didn’t care about the child at all, they cared about hurting the step father, at least assuming this recounting is accurate and, sadly, given the state of the nation and my own personal experiences I have no reason to believe it isn’t.
Women abduct children too, more often then men because they are seen as "more" innocent.
Yeah, like, let's call it what it is. That's not nonspecific "psycho" behavior, it's very specifically racist. No need to dance around the word.
@@naya9076 White Moderate Syndrome strikes again, evidently...
It's truly messed up that I know, for certain, that if the child looked black or Hispanic and the dad was a white man, they wouldn't even look twice. My daughter is mixed but she looks like a light skinned black girl and I'm white. All the racist weirdos I run across just ask why I adopted a black kid. I glare and growl, "I gave birth to her."
As a man I get dirty looks taking my kids to the store to get groceries or necessities, but a woman can walk up to a random child take them away and no one would bat a fucking eye. Let's normalize fathers being able to ship with their kids without judgment
Karen apparently has never heard of adopted, step, and foster children.
I’m Chinese my husband is white. Our kids are obviously mixed race both show Asian features. My husband is a teacher. Once at a school event he’s holding our 2 yo son and a student of his, 6th grader, asked him if he knew the boy he was holding. My husband was like, I’d better, he’s my son. The student said he couldn’t be because he looks nothing like my husband. Then I walk over. My husband graciously replies, because he looks like his mom.
According to my husband’s parents, our son looks like an asianized version of him at that age.
My MIL has gotten similar reactions when showing off pictures of the grandkids.
At least that kid was only 11. I don't know how long it's been since this happened, but I sure hope that kid grows up to cringe at the inappropriate thing they said to your husband.
My Cousin is married to a Japanese girl and I don't see anything wrong with that.
I am from califorinia. I seen all sorts of mixes. Although in missouri, I ran into a white and asian couple with their two sons. They acted like I was going to say something to them. But I had no idea what they excepted. It wasn't the first time I seen that mix before. It would not be the last. Then I got to thinking it must be because the midwest is still anti mixes. Which actuactly culture shock me that was still the case
My Caucasian sister married a guy that’s half black half Hispanic (but you can’t tell he’s Hispanic except his last name 🤭 lol). And they have two adorable kids who don’t look black or white (they took after their father’s Hispanic side 😉 lol)
They also adopted a little Hispanic girl and a black boy. *I love my nieces and nephews!* ❤️
Not to mention that genetics can produce varied results, especially if one or more parent is mixed race. There's a set of twins where one girl is a pale-skinned red-head with blue eyes and the other is black. Both their parents are mixed race. Their mother looks more black than their father.
Story 3: it's illegal to make a server pay or fire them for a dine and dash. At least it is where I live.
It should be illegal everwhere.
It isn't the damn waiter's fault!
Definitely lawsuit worthy! And calling a news team to cover the story would help to bring a crap boss down many notches!
It's illegal everywhere. It's no different than firing somebody for not stopping a shoplifter. They don't get paid enough to deal with that crap.
@@markrahm6900 In my country stores MUST be insured for EVERYTHING in case of theft, fire or damaged goods.
It is but a lot of bosses count on people not fighting it.
Story 4:
The updates to this story were bittersweet. Karen basically got off with 0 consequences (few hours community service), due to who she is related to. OP said it was revealed she had done things like that before, and it was shown in court the psycho Karen had seen and targeted OP and his son since they arrived at the parking lot. She had entered the store to follow them. Judge did give them an earful tho, according to OP, but it can hardly be called justice.
OP didn't pursue in civil court because he was in the process of moving states and didn't want to subject his little guy to any more of that. Can't say I blame him
Very old story
@@hfsaid Yup
I thought this story seemed unfinished and the end still upsets me. Wasn't it her son or nephew that was a somewhat high ranking cop or was close personal friends with his supervisor which was high up in the ranks?
An earful? Dude, if you're the judge, and she's been convicted, then give here something she will actually regret, a prison sentence. Words won't do squat because it was clearly shown in this story that she didn't have the capacity to listen to someone who was stating facts.
@@justyojimbo3471 Something along those lines iirc
Story 3: Being obnoxious, insulting OP, and not even being subtle in attempting to dine and dash. Sounds like it's not the first time they've pull this stunt, because they were pretty bold
Well, now they will only be able to do it from the golden arches, though they probably will not be going there as customers, but instead to fill out application forms.
I hope the manager also got fired
Story 3 - I hope the manager was fired for his incompetence and stupidity. As for those two dine and dashers… Serves Them Right. Getting arrested, getting expelled, now they both have a criminal record… LOL! They got what they deserved.
Kinda sounded like the manager was also the owner.
I don't think he fired himself.
Sounds like OP would have been better off getting another job. I mean seriously, a restaurant where the bill goes up into the thousands and he barely pays his waitstaff minimum wage and treats them like garbage, and would stick them with the bill for the customers crimes. I'd be taking notes until I had enough to sink them and spread it around the media what a horrible place the restaurant was to work at.
It was the owner not manager
Literally committing wage theft.
They will probably never get the kinds of jobs they were thinking they’d get, for the rest of there lives, thats for sure!
For the people complaining about the cop not hauling the boy off the plane, I can already see the news headline in that alternate timeline: "Police Officer roughly manhandled a young child off of plane and out of airport. Karen mother sues for excessive force against a minor."
Exactly
Yeeaaaaah that sadly seems pretty accurate. No context and all.
@@phoenixflamegames1 Yep once a neighbor sued his neighbor because his dog "barked the same decibels as a running jet engine". Man tought judge would see it as obvious complete bs and thus did not show up. He lost and had to sell pretty much EVERYTHING (including house) to pay that neighbor.
@@Some_Guy_6sad but true, my parents were sued for towing a car which had been parked for over a week despite there being signs posted. My dad took pictures of the sign and the evidence that the car hadn’t been touched. They still lost.
@Some_Guy_6 This. This is why you have to show up to court. Even if the problem is the most ridiculous, time wasting thing you ever have to deal with.
The last story: I will venture to say that all 3 of the women were in on it. Child trafficking is real!! Just my thoughts.
I remember when he first read this story.
There is an update to the last story. Apparently the lead Karen had nephew who was a local LEO so she just got a slap on the wrist.
@paulstewart8425 just what we needed another win for corrupt nepotism.
Oh yes, three old lady child traffickers who don’t know when to cut and run before the police get involved. That seems much more more likely than three old ladies who are crazy and racist 🙄
No, no, no, racism is no problem.
Story 4: Oof, the racism card when accusing OP of kidnapping. I feel bad for parents that have to deal with that s**t.
Not everyone in the family has the same skin tone, it doesn't mean they aren't related
Even still, step parents and adoption are a thing, you don't need to have the same skin tone to be a step parent or adopt a kid. There is literally no excuse besides racism for all three of those women.
My fiancée son has an olive skin tone, while his is a lighter skin tone, but everyone can clearly see they are father and son. I hope I don't run into this issue when I'm out and about with my future bonus child.
Yeah my parents were white, my older brother and I are brown
@@Darke_Exelbirth Often women like that are ACTUALLY kidnappers. They kidnap kids much more often then men (but it gets less shown in the news). And often get away with it because they "look more innocent".
What infuriates me is that even after the update the karens in the final story recieved zero repercussions for their actions.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! HOW????!!
@@bluej.studios4523 head karen was related to a cop
They often don't. If they did the Karens of the world would be all gone by now.
I've heard that last story before and it just...it boils my blood every time I hear it. Like, adoption is a thing, that Karen was just being crazy and racist. WTF Lady.
Even if you're blood related and the same colour and male you'll get either dirty looks or someone will say "you're kidnapping the kid" even though it's yours. BTW this has happened to my brother multiple times over the years
@@England91 That's scary to hear. But it's insane that some people actually think this way.
@@England91 Yeah, it's happened to me and my daughter twice. Both times it was old biddy caucasian ladies - but only one ever tried to physically touch my daughter. She got as far as an inch away, when I was holding my the nearly 2 year old, then screamed like a banshee when I grabbed her arm to stop her.
Story 4 sounds way too bizarre.
As in, those women were way too eager to try to take away that kid.
Almost assuredly this was like a fantasy come true for them. They’ve hyped themselves up for an imagined hero moment where they would save a child from being abducted by “one of them” and being celebrated on the local news and facebook for their quick reaction that saved the child from untold suffering. Of course reality is that there was no abduction other than the one they themselves committed and they now look like racist asses. They make a desperate bid to double down hoping somehow their righteous will be proven, but it only makes it worse.
The boss doesn’t pay his restaurant staff much but gives big money to the University? There is a SERIOUS problem with that.
American capitalism at its worst. Proud to be British where we abolished slavery first and our restaurants pay staff an actual wage where tipping is optional and not expected
Story 2: Dementia, bs. She was being a straight up Karen, and was going to try and scam free meals out of you.
If she had dementia, the husband would have said it. Karen is a b*tch. Her husband knows it. OP knows it. We all know it.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks that.
Agreed. The fact that her husband stated that “she just wants to be a bitch today,” tells me that she has a tendency to pull crap like this on purpose.
Yep. My one grandma was like this my entire life. She didn't start showing signs of dementia until I was in my late teens.
The kid was rewarded for leaving with the cops, not for the bad behavior
Betcha she was angling to have her drinks and apps comped.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that was her plan. I've heard more than a few stories of customers trying to claim something happened that didn't just so they could insist "The employees screwed up, so I should get my order for free!"
I am Native American and my daughter is half Black, we didn't look like we belonged to each other at first glance, but if you can look past the skin color and really look, she looks just like me, same eyes, same mouth, same nose, same body type, of course her hair was different. She truly was my mini me. I hate it when people only focus on something so stupid like skin color. Ignorance is not bliss, it's stupid and dangerous!
Last story: Kudos to OP and his wife for keeping calm enough to not risk assault and battery charges. Were I in that situation, I would be throwing hands. Possibly more, depending on the aisle.
If the husband is calling her a btch tells me this is not the first time and he is fed up with her treating people so poorly.
#1 - Damn. The police cannot win for losing. Either someone is ticked off that they bribe a kid with a candy bar to quietly just get off the stupid plane, or they are castigated all over the internet for just grabbing the brat and dragging him off - kicking and screaming. They took the quicker and less of two evils just to get people on their way. Save the 'how to parent' children lecture for the actual parents!
Agreed. De-escalating the situation reduces the risk of injury or damage.
Your boot sir.
Your not you when hungry.
Have a snickers
@@Tenebrio-Morio
You're just being unreasonable.
Kidnapper Karen and I both would have walked away from that experience traumatized. Witnesses too. We're all going to therapy.
My wife is the one that gets all the accusations of not her kids, babysitter, etc. All of the kids take strongly after my side. Her favorite is when after being told that they're her kids, they go "are you sure?" 🤦🏼♂️
I was asked "Are you sure?" in reply to "Is that your father?" after I said "No, my best friend who is 10 days older than me is not my father". Like yes, I'm pretty sure someone who is 10 days older than me is not my parent. And then five minutes later someone assumed he was my girlfriend. 🤦
Story 4: I hope those *EVIL* women were convicted to the maximum extent of the law. The main arse hurt and kidnapped a child and the two others made up lies in order to help, they sicken me.
Apparently they got a few hours of community service because the attempted kidnapper knew someone.
Last story - Always press charges. Because without a criminal record the next time it will be someplace without cameras and some plausible story like someone assaulted them, and the cops might believe them.
She had a history of doing this stuff as OP updated later - and was let go because she was related to a cop or something
I'm Chinese and my SO is hispanic, so our son is mixed. He has my SO's complexion, but my asian facial features. I've been told that he looks just like me, but whenever we're out with my SIL, strangers always assume that she is the mother purely because of their similar skintones. When I was crossing the HK/China border to visit relatives several years ago, with my son strapped to me in his baby carrier, we were stopped by officers and our bags searched. My mum, who was with us and was outraged at being stopped because I wasn't carrying anything illegal or did anything wrong, was convinced that they stopped us because my son and I have different skintones, but they did let us go when they saw that my suitcase had literally nothing except baby items (my personal items were in my dad's suitcase, who had been allowed through customs). The officers only decided to stop my mum and search her luggage as well because she was yelling at them for being unreasonable, so who knows why they really stopped me.
I understand it's annoying to you, and im sorry for that. But "Hey, that kid doesn't look like anyone in that group; let dubble check that" is genuinely a good thing.
You triggered the stop because of the baby items. Lots of little granule and liquid looking things, so people commonly use them to smuggle drugs. They would've taken a swab and processed it while they were still taking stuff out of the bag. It happens a lot if you travel often with one kid.
I used to work in a 24/7 cafe on a college campus. Not all of the customers were college students as some people stopped in on their way home from work, but most were college kids. Obviously on Friday and Saturday nights we're going to be the busiest that we are all week, and many people will order online. So we had an online order rack for online pickups or for doordash drivers. And this was when there were still heavy covid restrictions so we could only let about 30 people inside at one time and had security guards at the doors to let people in and out. One guy was waiting outside for about 10 minutes and left, and came back 45 minutes later when we were slower (security guards recognized him when he did come back). He had an order on the online order rack for over 45 minutes, grabbed it, and came back 5 minutes later complaining it was cold. So our supervisor even knowing what happened told him "I'm sorry about that, let me remake it for you." So she remade everything and it was so hot you had to use tongs to get it into his box that she then puts in the bag. He takes it, and 5 minutes later comes back in saying it's still cold and accuses her of just putting the same order back in his bag and demands a refund. She tells him "No. I won't be giving you a refund, but I can walk you to the back to prove to you it was in fact remade. I can also show you when you left without coming inside, nearly an hour ago, that your original order was already sitting on the online order rack."
Story 2 - whether it is dementia or not, she would’ve been kicked out for her rudeness.
I think she was blaming the waitress and causing a scene in order to get the food comped when they did order.
@@karencotlar2023 That was my first thought too
@@karencotlar2023 yep. My one grandma once tried to get every single employee of that restaurant fired....because she was denied free food as "compensation" for, get this, being denied free food. And by "every" I literally mean all the way up to the franchisee. Needless to say when I turned 18 I was always mysteriously busy during family dinners out.
First off: they way to hell is paved with good intentions.
Secondly absolutely disgusting what those women did. I hope they get the maximum punishment when it came to the court proceedings.
They did NOT have good intentions!!
@kranberry3318 no they didn't was just pointing that out. I wouldn't put it past anyone that those people probably had nefarious actions.
The kid has a terrible parent
@@threeormore In Story #4? How?
People who behave like the woman in story 2 and believe there's nothing wrong with it, I highly recommend you watch the movie, "Waiting." Like FLUFF said, "Don't upset people dealing with your food."
"Don't 💩 where you eat unless you like to eat 💩." -Zefrank
I thought that too. OP probably wasn’t the type, but I can imagine a server spitting in the food or dropping it on the floor before bringing it out.
Story 4: I feel so bad for the 4 year old. He's gonna remember that for sure. The bruises won't help either. At least he doesn't understand the racism of the situation yet.
My BIL is Indian and watched my white son a lot. I can't even tell you the number of people who have given him weird looks. He literally told me he keeps a picture of my kid on his phone so people don't think he kidnapped him. Like society sucks and what if the kid was adopted? The kid may not match the parents race.
Seems like being anti-mixed race is a common attitude for Midwestern USA like some other commenters have posted. I'm so glad I'm not a Yank.
@@JamesDavy2009 It only got worse with all The Trumpanzee's. = MAGA Trump supporters.
@@JamesDavy2009 Oh yeah, because being a southern boy would be SO much better right? :/
Unless you mean you're not American, in which case, understandable, but even still.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 My country's flag has a different country's flag in its canton, a star under it and a constellation on its fly side.
It seems weird that the lady tried to leave the store with him. And 2 randoms agree? Highly suspicious and seems planned or strange coincidence.
Who knows. As a teenager in a locker room I had a bunch of people claim to have seen genitals I don't have all because one person thought I didn't belong in there.
@@waffles3629 so sorry to hear that . Crippling in teenage years
@@heatherheather600 yep, I was terrified in the moment (I was literally being pushed into the corner by someone's naked body while they screamed at me to stop touching them and stay away, like it's kinda hard to not touch you when you are leaning on me), and later pissed that not only did no one came to my aid, but they actively lied about what had happened. Unfortunately I couldn't even tell me parents because they would just punish me for putting myself in that situation.
Story 4: Unfortunately, I witnessed a similar incident while working at Wal-Mart. Two older Karens, attempted to abduct a biracial couple's (husband white, wife black) newborn son. They falsely claimed that the child was too pale to be theirs and that he was their granddaughter, whom they alleged had been aken a few days prior. It was established that these women had been following the couple with the intent to kidnap the child, leading to their arrest. During the criminal trial, they sought an insanity defense to escape the charges. The judge committed them to a mental institution until they could be deemed mentally stable.
One thing I should add to this is both Karens had once beforein the week tried to take another couple's baby at a different store in town and had gotten away before the police could arrest them.
My wife tells a story about one of her trips to one of America's largest malls with our first-born when he was a toddler.
As background, note that we as parents used time-outs frequently with our kids when they were acting out. They get like 30 seconds per year starting when they can walk. It's used only when they're having an unreasonable fit about something, not just normal sadness or whatever. It reduces their stimuli and gives them time to sit and calm down. This worked great, once the kids because accustomed to the process. Eventually, we rarely need to be get more than a few numbers into a countdown to timeout before the kid would suddenly calm down and start being reasonable again. No hitting, no yelling, just an implacable countdown to another, quieter countdown that they can exit just by calming down. Again, worked great.
So back to the mall. My son was a toddler having a meltdown about something and my wife had put him in timeout. He was facing a wall, still crying, but my wife was at a bench nearby keeping an eye on him waiting for him to calm down. Some random woman walks up and start cooing at our son and comforting him. My wife audibly tries to warn her off and tells her that he's in a timeout and to leave him alone. The stranger keeps going, though, and soon is helping him up and getting him to walk away.
Our son has realized he's not with Mom anymore and has started to urgenly pull away from her. My wife turns into Mama Bear and roars "GET AWAY FROM MY SON!"
It's amazing how fast security in a large mall will show up when they hear that.
I don't remember the details about how it ended clearly, but I don't believe charges were pressed. Still, I suspect a valuable lesson was learned that day.
I recall looking into this story about the old lady trying to take the OP's kid. Apparently that nutcase actually had friends in high places, and got her charges heavily reduced. And the OP was furious that she essentially got away with it.
For story 1, it's one of the FEW times a cop shouldn't be getting the hate they are. It was a perfectly reasonable solution, the kid wasn't entirely being that entitled he was just being a kid, that the mom wasn't reining in appropriately.
The Snickers bar wasn't necessarily a reward for the bad behavior, it was "if you cooperate you can have this thing that is a high-value reward (for a kid)" And no, not using it in the dog training sense, but more. "Kids like candy, kids will do things for candy, use candy as a reward to reinforce cooperation"
Ya, plus seeing his mom drunk and being arrested can be pretty overwhelming for a kid. He is dealing with a lot emotionally, of course he is going to act out.
And you know, his mom was drunk. So that raises a lot of red flags.
And what if he was allergic? There'd be an even bigger meltdown because they promised it but couldn't deliver.
@@Fudgeanimates So what if he saw it? I'm guessing it wasn't the first time and won't be the last, either.
@@nadinesharp9766 lol all these whatifs and whatabouts
@@agoddamnferret Oooooh. One equals "all these whatifs and whatabouts" (not actual words btw )? It's a hella big what if, though, potential allergy, these days. Seems like every other person is allergic to peanuts or all nuts now. One would have to be an idiot to offer something like that to a kid for ANY reason. And here's another what if since you seem so fond of them. What if the kid was diabetic and had to be on a strict diet? What the cops did in this instance was wrong. Period. They should have told him he could either walk off the plane on his own like a big kid or he could be carried off in zip ties like his mom.
Story 3: Now that’s karma because they TOTALLY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED 😂😂😂😂!!! Play very stupid games like that, win very stupid prizes like getting what those two got 😂😂😂😂!!!
Now with a criminal record they're going to find it tough when looking for "real" jobs and it'll be funny that they'll become servers the job they despise.
Story 2 - At least the husband has a good head on his shoulders unlike his wife, whether she has dementia or not.
I was nervous when OP went to talk to him I was expecting there to be two rude people. Glad I was wrong
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*HELL NO! Had that been one of MY sons and I got a call like that from my husband.. As soon as I got to the store, it would have been GAME OVER for the psycho!*
*Most likely I would have caught a charge as well.. but it's a risk I would take! NEVER put your hands on one of my sons!*
Story 4. I am convinced that Karen was a kidnapper
Your right - he updates later she has a history of doing this to kids and being let go because she's related to law enforcement in that area. She only got another stint of community service for that, her THIRD, kidnapping charge.
The sad truth is that this is not a child rescue. This is child trafficking.
Honestly on that last story I still believe to this day that those three ladies were trying to traffic the original poster's son because the fact that those two other ladies came to her aid and it was even shown in the update that the new the main lady that was trying to kidnap the original poster son pretty much shows that they might have had a trafficking scheme going on and especially since the main ladies nephew who was a sheriff was able to magically get her off the charges that she was facing jail time for it when she still should have gotten just because I hate to see it your family member is a sheriff shouldn't mean you shouldn't suffer the punishment you deserve but yet somehow he was able to magically get the judge to just put her down for community service which pretty much shows that this isn't the first time that they've done this but they're just not successful at it
Both the sheriff and the judge need to lose their jobs and face jail time themselves for corruption charges
The names of the ladies need to be posted all over their community so people would be leery of having their kids around them.
I think that last story is yet another instance of someone refusing to admit that she was wrong, maybe with a touch of racism and arrogance thrown into the mix. Assuming it WAS a genuine mistake, it's an understandable enough one to make, but the moment she saw the little boy acting like OP's son, she should have dropped the whole matter. I mean, kids that young are pretty much the most guileless creatures on the whole planet - if he was actually afraid of OP, HE'D BE SHOWING IT.
It's not "a touch" of racism. It's full on KKKaren. These women are a step short of white robes and burning crosses. They honestly should have charged her with a hate crime.
Racist, stupid and entitled is a dangerous combination.
Expensive restaurant story. Im sad about the fact the OP mentions how they get paid minimum wage and have to survive off tips but thats okay because the owner donates A LOT of money to the school. Yeah he does. He gets tax breaks on that money. They donate because it saves them money each year that they'd otherwise have to pay in taxes. The fact he donates so much means nothing compared to paying your employees minimum wage because you dont get tax breaks on that. The more employees you have, the more full time employees you have, the more you have to shill out due to labor and industry regulations. Like employee insurance and the like. Its not about being generous. Its a business tactic to save money.
The lying Karens who "saw the whole thing" and bore false witness against OP should ALSO spend some time in jail. Also, if they claim to be Christian or Jewish, they should be reported to their pastor/priest/rabbi for breaking one of the ten commandmends, "Thou shalt not bear false witness."
It's not JUST lying. It's actually trying to frame a person for a serious crime.
If you suspect kidnapping, don't play vigilante. Contact law enforcement and/or local security and make a report. If you're wrong, it'll get cleared up with nobody getting hurt or in trouble. If you're right, tge correct authorities will handle it properly.
My wife and I and her family were visiting an Ikea in my hometown. At the top of the entry escalator was a small boy crying, looking around with the obviously lost expression of "I can't find mommy". I knelt down, said "hey buddy, can't find your mom?" he shook his head. I said "okay let's go over here and see if they can help you"... and we started walking towards the daycare/child watching area Ikea provides. A wild Karen appeared, hip checked me out of the way with a glare and snatching the boys hand shouted "LET'S GO FIND YOUR MOMMY!" I watched (slacked jawed) as she escorted/drug him the remaining 70ft to the employee at the child care admittance door.
This was 10+ years ago and I still regret not saying anything. I'm sure I her mind she stopped "evil bad MAN" who was obviously trying g to kidnap that kid.
Police are not allowed to use force or place hands on a juvenile without meeting very strict criteria.
Middle to Elderly women be like: "Adoption isn't a real concept."
Thank you!! My husband ALWAYS says that: never piss off the people handling your food. LOL
I’m sure the kid wasn’t rewarded. The candy bar was a tactic to move them off the plane quickly to not inconvenience the rest of the passengers and flight scheduled for that day. That’s his job, not to teach the kid life lessons. He was about to have a cancelled vacation and deal with the aftermath with airport security, it’s not like he’s really being rewarded
I've said it before and I'll say it again, these people go after men with children. Like a Dad can't be out with his kids alone or at least without spouse in sight, single Dad's don't exist, mixed race children or adopted children aren't an option apparently. It's sad but it seems to be that if a woman is running with a child screaming kidnapper/pervert/ect. when the Dad is running after her trying to get to his kid, people usually think the woman is the victim. Good thing security cameras exist I hope those women got charged to the full extent of the law.
"Stop trying to make "fetch" happen." 🤣🤣🤣
Gretchen Wieners has Cracked!
1st story: different countries have different fines for this. I bet this Karen will act differently on the next flight
What next flight? tee hee 🤭😆
@@tinydancer7426 different airline. Trust me, if you have enough money, you can buy your way out of anything. Justice isn't blind it's greedy
There should not BE any future flight for her... Ever.
That restaurant manager sound like he's probably a felon too. You can't take dine and dashers out of a worker's pay, that's called wage theft.
Putting your hands on someone else's kid is a GREAT way to wind up learning to eat through a straw.
Story 2: They must be doing that on purpose to scam a free dinner for themselves.
Story 4: it is usually the ACCUSER that need proof. Especially when the accused HAS proof of their own.
The Karens trying to accuse the OP of kidnapping . I would be suing the Karens of causing emotional distress to the child and the parents. That poor little boy it had to have been very traumatic having a psycho woman try to take him away from his dad . And yes that was his stepdad but to him he is his daddy.
The last story is one he's covered before but my god it infuriates me just as bad the second time I hear it. My god what was even those other lady's reasoning? Were they in on it or were they just that delusional.
Who knows. As a teenager I once had a bunch of people in a locker room claim to have seen genitals I don't have. Which makes no sense.
I'm sorry but working for minimum wage at a high end French restaurant where your boss is a total kiss ass to a-hole customers and is willing to fire you on the spot sounds like absolute *hell* to work in
This really freaks me out about the lack of worker protection in the US. That a server can get fired because customers dined and dashed. That’s insane.
That kid is going to be all kinds of screwed up by his mother's teachings. A police officer carrying him off the plane kicking and screaming one time won't teach him respect, but it's more than enough to make him hate police. Especially because she's going to talk crap about the police to him later that evening. Anything they did, she would have a hateful explanation for.
I think the officer was smart to choose peace - it might plant the seeds of that kid not blindly trusting his mom, when she says they were horrible but that's the exact opposite of what he experienced.
None of these entitled people have seen Waiting....? Don't mess with people who handle your food.
How can some people not realise that adopted children exist?
Story 2: That husband was truly sick of his wife, it is as clear as her Karenistic narcissism.
Anyone else ever think these cases of karens trying to 'save' a kid from a kidnapping are just a cover for their own kidnapping and possible trafficking schemes?
Oh, I ABSOLUTELY believe that.
But I think here, it really was just a racist Karen being a bitch.
FA's seats story: I don't know about the UK, but in the US that type of behavior could get you put on a no-fly list. As for the kid, the police didn't want to have to manhandle him and possibly get charged with abuse themselves.
Haven't ordered story: I suspect she was angling for a major discount on the food and drinks, but her husband ruined her plans. I suspect this isn't the first time this has happened and this is just how the husband deals with her now.
Dine and dash story: Too bad OP didn't know what program(s) those two were in the school for. I dearly hope it's something that any kind of criminal conviction, let alone a felony, disqualifies them for. I wonder if they wound up having to wait tables to make ends meet?
Attempted kidnapping story: Given how coordinated those 3 were, I wonder if THEY were human traffickers?
Not gonna lie I have to give props to the Dad of the Feature Story. He kept himself in check in a situation that would have made other better people crack. and I have seen it way way to often. I have a close friend of my Family. He's African American and his Wife is as White as the Snow. She had a Daughter from a previous marriage and she and my friend loved this child to pieces. he used to take her everywhere with him when his wife needed some downtime.
One Day he took her to Subway for Food. when this rude lady came in behind them. she was fusing and yelling to hurry up the line. the Little girl turned to the Woman and told her "Your not being very nice" my buddy tells me she stopped cold looking at her. She then saw my friend as he tapped her on the shoulder that it was their turn to order. he placed the order and they went to sit to eat.
At one point he had to run to the Washroom and asked the Counter Guy to watch his Daughter. as he was coming out of the Restroom he heard an argument and a little girl screaming. Apparently the Crazy Witch got it in her head that the little girl had been kidnaped by a "Insert N Word" and she was going to save her and teach her proper manners. the Counter Guy had Blocked the door to stop her from getting out. Cops were called and the woman was arrested for attempted Kidnaping and child endangerment.... honestly I couldn't believe it at the time but the more I see of stories like this the more I get the feeling that people like this really freaking exist and I would hate to ever meet one in reality.
Welcome to Wackyland
"It can happen here"
Population: 341.5 million nuts and a convicted orange squirrel
It happens a lot more than you think.
I used to get that with my daughter until she got older and her features were more noticeable.
How you treat a child is entirely age dependent. A 6 year old who's mommy has told him to wait is different from a 16 year old who's just being an entitled brat. The cop got the kid off without the use of physical force - which is the first step to getting him somewhere safe [a plane, alone, is not safe for a young child]. The kid has to be managed while mommy is dealt with. No issue with bribing him with a snicker's bar if that's all it takes to make him co-operate.
I've heard that last story before. I think she claimed to be his grandmother.
She does. But when the wife shows her a picture of his actual grandmother, Karen says "Ok, sorry, he's not my grandson. I was just trying to protect him from this pervert."
Story 4: repeat story. But still, crazy lady and the two false witnesses should be charged with kidnapping.
$50,000 fine for delaying departure of an air flight.
That number... It's everywhere lol.
@@Fudgeanimates Well, inflation, y'know? 💰
Yeah and use the money to compensate other passengers
@@olgar.6604 10% first to the flight crew because of the aggravation.
fines should be percentages. in every instance. delaying a flight 10% of your earned income. you file taxes every year, should be used for more purposes than just owing the government money
Honestly on that dining dash story I think the original poster needs to report her manager because the fact that this guy is letting people get away with that could bankrupt the owners restaurant and I think that wouldn't be a good business for the owner to keep somebody like that around and I think when the owner of the restaurant comes in that's when the original poster really needs to speak to him about his bullshit behavior because I'm not going to lie if I own the restaurant and I found out one of my managers was being too much of a coward to do something about terrible customers I think we need that one loyal customer to stay open I would immediately fire their ass
Sadly, I think the manager was the owner. But OP should document everything that goes on there because I believe there are labor law violations being perpetrated.
Both me and my father are working today on Father's Day, and we both had to deal with an entitled customer 😒
So yeah, I needed this upload today 👍
That last story. I don't know what I would do. But pressing charges is an absolute IF it got that far.
Story 1, better to get the kid off the plane without drama-I’m sure the passengers were relieved. And forcefully removing a resisting child from an enclosed space has its own physical risks.
Story 4, and so many stories like it, are why I've stopped taking any accusations of crimes seriously without some solid evidence. Especially the lone woman from years ago suddenly appears type cases.
Too many liars out there. Too many wanna be martyrs.
Story 4: I'm wondering if this is a possible kidnapping/trafficking scheme, non-threatening seeming women acting like saviours of children alone with single fathers to get them away from their fathers because in situations like this, the women are more likely to be believed and they can get away with the kids in the general confusion...
story 4 - if that was my child, karen would get a lesson from vin diesel " you dont mess with family" 😂
*Story 4-* My caucasian sister married a guy that’s half black half Hispanic (but you can’t tell he’s Hispanic except his last name). And they have two adorable children that don’t look black. (They took on their father’s Hispanic side)
Also, they adopted a little Hispanic girl, and a little black boy. *I love all 4 of my nieces and nephews!!!* ❤️
I say the snickers bar is fine. Just charge them for it later.
That last story is especially frustrating given that many couples foster and adopt.
Not the kid's fault his mother was entitled. As far as he knew at that age he was just doing what his mother told him that he was allowed to do. He isn't old enough to understand why that was wrong and it's not fair to punish him for his mother's poor choices. Just being her son is already punishment enough. So go ahead and give him a Snickers and have a talk with him about why his mommy was wrong for what she did.
The child in the plane story did nothing wrong. He was following his mother’s instructions. She was the one in the wrong. Why should the cops punish him for his mother’s actions and give him more trauma? Parenting and disciplining other people’s children isn’t their job.
How was he being punished? Should he have been left on the plane without Karen? She he have been allowed to stay in the FA’s seat? He was given a candy bar, for crying out loud. He was fine!
Bribing brats with candy is why kids can't read anymore. These days, sending kids to the principals office means a safe space and a snack or candy.
On the one hand it is nice that people are paying attention to what is going on around them and wanted to step in to help a child they thought had been kidnapped but that isn't how you go about doing it. The fact that the kid was being so friendly, happy, and allowed to move freely around the story would (to me) make it unlikely that the child had been abducted. Going by what you see in TVs and movies an adult who had abducted a child would usually keep the kid close by and the child is less likely to be that friendly to strangers.
Idk if I’d be able to handle someone snatching my son with swing fist 😂
Last story is a common kid napping process that usual works cause panic and confusion and run off with the kid that women wasnt "saving" anyone if she was then she would of gone to the staff not The door
Hi fluffy! Wow that last story sounds like what my parents & I went through many times when these "karens" claimed that we were not a family! My Dad was dark skinned and my Mom was light skinned and I'm an olive skinned (golden) girl.
Final Story: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't OP have a update saying that the crazy lady got off scott free because a relative of hers was a cop or something, I'm hope I am wrong about that because someone like that will only cause more trouble like that if she was let go without any consequences.
Every time i hear a father being accused as a kidnapper of their own child, I think of the one add where a woman and child run away from "creepy men" only for it to turn out the woman was the kidnapper and the men were following to save the girl.
Abusers and kidnappers habe neither age, skincolour or sex in common.
Period
Story 4 - I've seen this story before, but the last time, the crazy woman spent a lot more time making it clear that this was a racial issue. Everything she said was "this Mexican" this and "this Mexian" that.
Can you imagine how embarrassing that would be to explain to your cellmates that you got arrested for grand theft dinner? 😂
The full version of story 4 has been in at least one other dark darkfluff video. The full version mentions that the kidnapper claimed to be the child's grandmother. I love how she got caught in that lie!!